Im Only Bothered About The Speed
Which is Faster S5 OR Alpha ??
I want to get the alpha but theres hardly no custom roms for it
should i get s5 ?
The 850f has a score of more than 50.000 in the antutu benchmark, beating the S5 and the note 4 if that's important for you.
I bought the alpha because it looks a lot better than the cheap plastic looking S5.
Gray44 said:
The 850f has a score of more than 50.000 in the antutu benchmark, beating the S5 and the note 4 if that's important for you.
I bought the alpha because it looks a lot better than the cheap plastic looking S5.
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Alpha Exynos 5 Octa 5430 version
S5 got s801 and Exynos 5422 while Alpha got s801 and Exynos 5430 variables. Both got 2GB ram. Performance-wise is Alpha much faster because it only used 720P screen, especially with the Exynos 5430 one. Though Note4 comes with Eynos 5433 but the 2K screen hogging the CPU/GPU power, in real life performance Note3 is even faster than Note4.
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Im Only Bothered About The Speed
Which is Faster S5 OR Alpha ??
I want to get the alpha but theres hardly no custom roms for it
should i get s5 ?
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Even thou the S5 gives lower score on antutu it doesnt mean its slower than alpha. The exynos version of alpha has octa core cpu which makes it alot more efficient in multi core processing but its only clocked 1.3/1.8 Mhz, while the S5 quad core is clocked at 2.5 Mhz and that gives a little advantage in single core processing.
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tileeq said:
Even thou the S5 gives lower score on antutu it doesnt mean its slower than alpha. The exynos version of alpha has octa core cpu which makes it alot more efficient in multi core processing but its only clocked 1.3/1.8 Mhz, while the S5 quad core is clocked at 2.5 Mhz and that gives a little advantage in single core processing.
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Not only the clock speed is important, but also architecture, implementation and manufacturing method and process size (The thing is usually written in nanometers ). All these factors are better on Exynos 5430 than on SD801, so single core performance Exynos alpha should be comparable to SD801 Galaxy S5. :good:
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Not only the clock speed is important, but also architecture, implementation and manufacturing method and process size (The thing is usually written in nanometers ). All these factors are better on Exynos 5430 than on SD801, so single core performance Exynos alpha should be comparable to SD801 Galaxy S5. :good:
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I just got the international version of the SIII. I was wondering if I should return it and get the AT&T version because some people say that it is faster graphics and memory wise, and that even though it's dual core it has a newer processor architecture (A9 vs A15). I want to know which one really has the better graphics performance and per-thread performance, just overall which one is more powerful in the end. I dont care about network speeds.
CAN YOU PLEASE USE THE DAMN SEARCH FUNCTION BEFORE POSTING?
*calms down*
because some people say that it is faster graphics and memory wise
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It has more memory (2GB vs 1GB) but a slower graphic engine. Note that slower is a relative term; the speed differences may be neglectable in most real-world applications, but synthetic benchmarks do show them.
it has a newer processor architecture (A9 vs A15).
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Yes. However none of the new features (such as Virtualization) are even used.
Note that an architecture doesn't say anything about the CPU itself since Samsung has heavily modified the ARM design.
Also note that the US-version is dualcore at ~1.5Ghz with the Exynos (international) is 4core clocked at 1.4Ghz.
The Exynos is also produced with a newer technology called High-K metal gate which allows higher clock speeds with less power consumption as compared to the old production technology used on the Dualcore version.
My best guess is that everything you'll want to do will just run fine on both versions, but the international one definitively has more horsepower.
The US-version with it's 2GB of RAM should be better for multitasking tough.
I got the international version and I think I made a good decision getting the international version.
Thanks so much. I looked around but couldn't find exactly what I was looking for there was always people saying the Snapdragon S4 was better, but i didn't know if they just meant battery/data wise or what. Thanks for the clarification though. So far I am loving my International version.
look at this : http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_and_v_benchmarks_are_here_promising_too-news-4722.php
in the results, the new line of sony xperias, r getting better results on benchmarks than galaxy s3. How can it be? How xperia t with almost the same specification than xperia s gets better results than galaxy s3 with his quadcore processor ?
Quad core is not yet optimized in android
Android is not ready yet for quad core
Dual core is more than enough for android (well ICS)
Because i think jellybean quad core will do better (CMIIW)
Its not just Xperia T all device that use S4 "krait" Dual Core benchmark is always better than exynos
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Its the next gen snapdragon S4 plus krait processor..u can find out about those over at their site Qualcomm Snapdragon Processors. Just because S3 and HTC ONE X has quad core doesnt make it act fast coz despite of the cores, the normal apps doesn need to use the quads. May be ull get better gaming fps and smoothness with tegra 3 but when its come to web browsing, stability and working potential the snapdragon chipsets actually does a lot of good work. Waiting for the LG Optimus G. Heard they used S4 PRO Quad Krait
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Its the next gen snapdragon S4 plus krait processor..u can find out about those over at their site Qualcomm Snapdragon Processors. Just because S3 and HTC ONE X has quad core doesnt make it act fast coz despite of the cores, the normal apps doesn need to use the quads. May be ull get better gaming fps and smoothness with tegra 3 but when its come to web browsing, stability and working potential the snapdragon chipsets actually does a lot of good work. Waiting for the LG Optimus G. Heard they used S4 PRO Quad Krait
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Quad Krait
Sounds pretty scary
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and about the difference on results between xperia t and xperia s?
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look at this : http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_and_v_benchmarks_are_here_promising_too-news-4722.php
in the results, the new line of sony xperias, r getting better results on benchmarks than galaxy s3. How can it be? How xperia t with almost the same specification than xperia s gets better results than galaxy s3 with his quadcore processor ?
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Because cores != performance.
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Because it's not about number of cores.
Typically the phones with more cores run them at slower clock speeds, canceling out the difference.
It's all about getting a BALANCED spec, which includes I/O rates, flash speed, memory channels, memory bandwidth, cpu cores, cpu power management latency and literally hundreds of other factors.
Both Sony and Samsung are tier 1 manufacturers, which is why they know how to spend money in the right areas when it comes to component costs.
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and about the difference on results between xperia t and xperia s?
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XS Use S3 processor, No Ext Memory, no LTE, 12mp camera
While XT S4 processor, Ext Mem, LTE support, and 14mp camera
If you talking about benchmark
Its pretty far i think thanks to the S4
But the downside is the illumination bar
I really love that bar. if xperia T have that bar i will upgrade without thinking anymore
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Quad Krait
Sounds pretty scary
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The new gen S4 PRO comes in two form, Dual and Quad..LG Optimus G went with the Quad 1.5GHz and a shattering 320GPU. Its gona be pretty fast in 3D rendered games for sure and as its Qualcomm then u can very easily bet that there battery consumption will be less than usual Quads
Qualcomm doesn't use reference ARM Design. they just get the license for A9/A15.
They have their own Design like Apple with their SoC.
The Sony Xperia S has the MSM8660 which is a Snapdragon S3 (45nm, Single Channel RAM, Andreno 220 GPU).
The Sony Xperia T has the MSM8260a which is a Snapdragon S4 (28nm, Dual Channel RAM, Andreno 225 GPU).
The difference is also in the architecture.
S3 = Scorpion: This is the own Design of Qualcomm which is compareable with ARM Cortex A9
S4 = Krait: This is also designed by Qualcomm and is compareable with ARM Cortex A15
The performance of Snapdragon SoC's is incredible. Its not just, that Android is not yet optimized for Quad-Core SoC's but also the Design.
There are already benches available showing the APQ8064 which is a Quad-Core with Andreno 320 GPU. There is no compareable SoC at the moment and if I'm not wrong the LG Optimus G will get this SoC (Q1/Q2 2013).
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Qualcomm doesn't use reference ARM Design. they just get the license for A9/A15.
They have their own Design like Apple with their SoC.
The Sony Xperia S has the MSM8660 which is a Snapdragon S3 (45nm, Single Channel RAM, Andreno 220 GPU).
The Sony Xperia T has the MSM8260a which is a Snapdragon S4 (28nm, Dual Channel RAM, Andreno 225 GPU).
The difference is also in the architecture.
S3 = Scorpion: This is the own Design of Qualcomm which is compareable with ARM Cortex A9
S4 = Krait: This is also designed by Qualcomm and is compareable with ARM Cortex A15
The performance of Snapdragon SoC's is incredible. Its not just, that Android is not yet optimized for Quad-Core SoC's but also the Design.
There are already benches available showing the APQ8064 which is a Quad-Core with Andreno 320 GPU. There is no compareable SoC at the moment and if I'm not wrong the LG Optimus G will get this SoC (Q1/Q2 2013).
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For better GPU performance, i have seen Qualcomm betting more on MSM8960 than any other. I am waiting for S4 PRO MSM8960T chipset review (will surely be used over TABS only) lets see what it got. Didnt read nor know anything about APQ8064 model and i dont think dat we will get to know about that chipset unless LG releases their Optimus G. Xperia T has the AP series from S4 PLUS but S4 PRO is a total new ball game . Am guessing that the next gen S4 chips can easily be overclocked to 2GHz+ as my Xperia-S is already running on 1.78GHZ smoothly and its a Dual Core S3 . LG announced 2GB of ram for the Optimus G so, basically, 2GHz+ of overclocked QUAD PROCESSOR with 2GB ram is a must have for any enthusiast android developer/user. And if they manufacturer make it to a perfection than for sure its a must kept for the next 2/3 years as android for quads, wont be developed before that time but WITHIN that time. That 320GPU is already like a cherry on top so for now, am just keeping my fingers crossed to know how the battery will perform :fingers-crossed:. Then again, thats just my prediction and thoughts . As is said before, Qualcomm already won my faith over their chipsets . More like Dejavu ..More power work yet less power consumed
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Quad core is not yet optimized in android
Android is not ready yet for quad core
Dual core is more than enough for android (well ICS)
Because i think jellybean quad core will do better (CMIIW)
Its not just Xperia T all device that use S4 "krait" Dual Core benchmark is always better than exynos
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If in future quadcore will be good for android then s3 not gonna be outdated soon
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If in future quadcore will be good for android then s3 not gonna be outdated soon
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It's not only quadcore + Android not optimized to be the reason that Xperia T and other new Krait S4 CPU powered phones are better then Samsung's S3.
The S3 is powered by the tegra 3, and tegra 3 isn't the newest CPU anymore. It's just the fact that the S4 processor from Qualcomm is newer and better optimized then tegra 3.
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It's not only quadcore + Android not optimized to be the reason that Xperia T and other new Krait S4 CPU powered phones are better then Samsung's S3.
The S3 is powered by the tegra 3, and tegra 3 isn't the newest CPU anymore. It's just the fact that the S4 processor from Qualcomm is newer and better optimized then tegra 3.
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S3 powered by Tegra 3? Where did you read that? It has either the Quad Core Exynos or Dual Core S4 Krait in some models variations.
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It's not only quadcore + Android not optimized to be the reason that Xperia T and other new Krait S4 CPU powered phones are better then Samsung's S3.
The S3 is powered by the tegra 3, and tegra 3 isn't the newest CPU anymore. It's just the fact that the S4 processor from Qualcomm is newer and better optimized then tegra 3.
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LOL S3 have Quad Core Exynos .. Tegra 3 is for HTC ONE X and Xperia T came with S4 Plus Dual Core Krait which actually has beaten S3 and HTC both to some serious extent. Hell, HTC ONE S beats one x to some serious level BOTTOM LINE : Qualcomm holds the authentic brain power for androids
I am really confused.
When I test my brand new Samsung S3 LTE with 2gb of RAM my scores are usually 12500.
When I compare it from the Antutu list of phones against Samsung S3 (normal version with 1gb RAM) the score is about 16000.
??? Why is that?
Sorry if I am posting to the wrong place.
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I am really confused.
When I test my brand new Samsung S3 LTE with 2gb of RAM my scores are usually 12500.
When I compare it from the Antutu list of phones against Samsung S3 (normal version with 1gb RAM) the score is about 16000.
??? Why is that?
Sorry if I am posting to the wrong place.
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Benchmarks are unreliable is why see multiple posts on the subject .
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hrcoprco said:
I am really confused.
When I test my brand new Samsung S3 LTE with 2gb of RAM my scores are usually 12500.
When I compare it from the Antutu list of phones against Samsung S3 (normal version with 1gb RAM) the score is about 16000.
??? Why is that?
Sorry if I am posting to the wrong place.
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Thry could be using mods such as custom roms and kernels for example.
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this is because samsung galaxy 3 LTE has a dual core and regular galaxy 3 has a quad core processor
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this is because samsung galaxy 3 LTE has a dual core and regular galaxy 3 has a quad core processor
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do you mean i9305?you're joking, right?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5001&idPhone2=4238
Hardware and design
The S III comes in two distinct variations that differ primarily in the internal hardware. The international S III version has Samsung's Exynos 4 Quad system on a chip (SoC) containing a 1.4 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 central processing unit (CPU) and an ARM Mali-400 MP graphics processing unit (GPU). According to Samsung, the Exynos 4 Quad doubles the performance of the Exynos 4 Dual used on the S II, while using 20 percent less power. Samsung had also released several 4G LTE versions—4G facilitates higher-speed mobile connection compared to 3G—in selected countries to exploit the corresponding communications infrastructures that exist in those markets.[44] Most of these versions use Qualcomm's Snapdragon S4 SoC featuring a dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait CPU and an Adreno 225 GPU. The South Korean and Australia versions are a hybrid of the international and 4G-capable versions.
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Hardware and design
The S III comes in two distinct variations that differ primarily in the internal hardware. The international S III version has Samsung's Exynos 4 Quad system on a chip (SoC) containing a 1.4 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 central processing unit (CPU) and an ARM Mali-400 MP graphics processing unit (GPU). According to Samsung, the Exynos 4 Quad doubles the performance of the Exynos 4 Dual used on the S II, while using 20 percent less power. Samsung had also released several 4G LTE versions—4G facilitates higher-speed mobile connection compared to 3G—in selected countries to exploit the corresponding communications infrastructures that exist in those markets.[44] Most of these versions use Qualcomm's Snapdragon S4 SoC featuring a dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait CPU and an Adreno 225 GPU. The South Korean and Australia versions are a hybrid of the international and 4G-capable versions.
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oh lol you meant this haha my bad
yupe, many devices out there to make us spend much more hahaahahahah
I have only used dumb-phones until now and plan to get a smartphone.
I did a little surfing and found Adreno 320 is better than Mali 400 GPU and Qualcomm Snapdragons are better than Samsung Exynos, right?
But in real world they say Note 2 is considered better phone than Nexus 4. I don't understand this.
Different phones top in different benchmarks, and still some things like display quality are not considered in benchmarks i guess, right?
Now I haven't used any smartphone before, and the I would be using it for gaming or watching videos/movies only most of the time as I'm a student.
Which of these phones that I mentioned (all in 23-29,000 INR range) are better than others in reality?
Those who have used these phones or are techsavy might be able to guide me in making the right choice
Just found S3 in India has different specs than in US, Canada etc.
India: 1.4 Ghz Quad-core Exynos 4412,Mali-400,1GB
US: 1.5 Ghz Dual-core Snapdragon, Adreno 225,2GB
Which S3 is better?
sher_dil said:
I have only used dumb-phones until now and plan to get a smartphone.
I did a little surfing and found Adreno 320 is better than Mali 400 GPU and Qualcomm Snapdragons are better than Samsung Exynos, right?
But in real world they say Note 2 is considered better phone than Nexus 4. I don't understand this.
Different phones top in different benchmarks, and still some things like display quality are not considered in benchmarks i guess, right?
Now I haven't used any smartphone before, and the I would be using it for gaming or watching videos/movies only most of the time as I'm a student.
Which of these phones that I mentioned (all in 23-29,000 INR range) are better than others in reality?
Those who have used these phones or are techsavy might be able to guide me in making the right choice
Just found S3 in India has different specs than in US, Canada etc.
India: 1.4 Ghz Quad-core Exynos 4412,Mali-400,1GB
US: 1.5 Ghz Dual-core Snapdragon, Adreno 225,2GB
Which S3 is better?
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The US version is btr in this case. Based on wat is ur requirements. U dun multi task much so u dun nid tat much cores. And more ram is btr.
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Hi,
I was just wondering: is there a difference between the Galaxy Alpha's Exynos 5 Octa 5430 processor and the Galaxy A7's Exynos 5 Octa 5430 processor? Judging by the name, they do have the same processor, but I recently watched a speed comparison between the two devices, and the Alpha was faster compared to the A7. Of course, the A7 is considered as a mid-ranged phone.
Are they the exact same processor, or are they just clocked at different speeds?
(Just genuinely curious They do have the same name, after all.)
alpha is fastter becuse the hd resoliton and a7 is full hd....i recomend alpha ...best phone ever
Alpha is much better phone , No doubt .
Anytime anyday .
Here in india , A7 got Snapdragon 615 Lol
If u want bigger phone ,than Galaxy note 3 is miles better than A7 with almost same price
Its the same processor Exynos Octa 5430
But Alpha is much faster because of 720P resolution
Mali-T628MP6 doesn't good on 1080p Full HD
See Note 3 Exynos Version its the same exynos octa 5430 and Mali-T628MP6