I'm trying to decide on a tablet for myself.
Thought about the nook but the 7" screen dissuaded me.
Specs:
G http://www.viewsonic.com/gtablet/spec.htm
10s http://ap.viewsonic.com/za/products/viewpad/viewpad10s/specs.php
Now I'm down to the G Tablet ($360) and the ViewPad 10s ($399)
10s to GTablet Comparison: (legend: + Pro, - Con, ? unknown)
+ seems to have a better screen (larger viewing angles)
+ HDMI port
- 512MB internal flash (not too bad if apps2sdext is possible)
- Lesser capacity battery (3300 vs 3650 mAh)
? developer support ? will there be a xda forum and support (ROMs)
Other questions:
The 10s has an accelerometer (g-sensor)
Does the G Tablet have an Accelometer? Magnetometer (compass)?
Please help me decide. thanks.
Yes accelerometer, no magnetometer.
Doesn't the 10s have 3G connectivity as well as GPS? GPS would be nice to have, but not a necessity. And the 3G connection is a bit of overkill unless you're traveling all the time. Pretty hard to find a place nowadays without wifi.
From what I've heard, the screen in the 10s is the same as the gtablet. Or at least shares the same viewing angle concerns.
Also, I'm not sure where you're posting from, but the 10s is a Eurpoean model. but I'm sure you can get it on ebay for the US.
Thanks for your answers.
Kayak83 said:
Doesn't the 10s have 3G connectivity as well as GPS? GPS would be nice to have, but not a necessity. And the 3G connection is a bit of overkill unless you're traveling all the time. Pretty hard to find a place nowadays without wifi.
From what I've heard, the screen in the 10s is the same as the gtablet. Or at least shares the same viewing angle concerns.
Also, I'm not sure where you're posting from, but the 10s is a Eurpoean model. but I'm sure you can get it on ebay for the US.
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I dont need 3G coz my Nexus can tether for free , same reason I dont need another GPS too.
JR.com is taking pre-orders
http://www.jr.com/viewsonic/pe/VIW_VIEWPAD10S/
I'm pretty confused....
So from the hours of research that I have done, from what I understand (and correct me if i'm wrong) there are 3 tablets coming out from Viewsonic. . . The Viewpad 10, Viewpad 10s (European and Asian markets), and a Viewpad 10 Pro.
From what I have read, the 10 Pro will also be dual boot, Windows 7 and Android 2.2. The one thing that confuses me besides all of the mixed information out there, is that....
1) Android 2.2 will be native (dual boot).
2) Android 2.2 will "work within a VM" which is launched within Windows 7.
Has anyone else closely researched Viewsonic's new tablet lineup?
Thanks.
The major difference between the G Tablet and Viewpad is CPU. For G Tablet we have Tegra2 which will be a reference design for Android 3. Viewpad should be using Intel Atom CPU to be able to run Windows7. I think it will have much worse support from xda. So if you want Windows and terrible battery live - choose Viewpad. If you want Android 3 Honeycomb - G Tablet.
ivan.volosyuk said:
The major difference between the G Tablet and Viewpad is CPU. For G Tablet we have Tegra2 which will be a reference design for Android 3. Viewpad should be using Intel Atom CPU to be able to run Windows7. I think it will have much worse support from xda. So if you want Windows and terrible battery live - choose Viewpad. If you want Android 3 Honeycomb - G Tablet.
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Wrong...
The 10S version of the viewpad has a tegra cpu just like the gtablet..Some places are actually calling it a gtab2 and/or the euro gtab only because it has a few additional features but supposedly a similar screen... maybe these links will help. Good luck, hope this all helps.
http://www.greatereader.org/?p=11791
http://www.jr.com/viewsonic/pe/VIW_VIEWPAD10S/
So, in essence the 10S is the same as the gTab with a few extra features at roughly the same price...
flashred said:
So from the hours of research that I have done, from what I understand (and correct me if i'm wrong) there are 3 tablets coming out from Viewsonic. . . The Viewpad 10, Viewpad 10s (European and Asian markets), and a Viewpad 10 Pro.
From what I have read, the 10 Pro will also be dual boot, Windows 7 and Android 2.2. The one thing that confuses me besides all of the mixed information out there, is that....
1) Android 2.2 will be native (dual boot).
2) Android 2.2 will "work within a VM" which is launched within Windows 7.
Has anyone else closely researched Viewsonic's new tablet lineup?
Thanks.
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I wouldn't go with the x86 tablet. Just about all current Android devices are ARM CPU based and ANY apps that make use of the native development environment just won't work on non-ARM CPUs. (Actually I'm guessing that most devs will restrict to ARMv7 anyways -> cortex-a8 & -a9 based systems only but these are the only ones worth buying anyways...)
I wonder why they kneecapped internal storage for the 10s? I read this a while back and IIRC it said 4GB at that time... About the only thing that I'd like from it is higher cap batt... be even better if it was 5k but...
flipovich said:
The 10S version of the viewpad has a tegra cpu just like the gtablet..
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No, Windows 7 wouldn't run on ARM.
dagbro said:
No, Windows 7 wouldn't run on ARM.
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That is correct, and also the reason why I would like to go with one of these Viewpads that can boot (or VM) Windows 7 and Android 2.2
I haven't posted much (so i'm restricted) on here otherwise I would add a few links to the demonstrations I have seen on the 'tube. If you do a search for Viewpad 10 pro, you will see Android being launched in a VM of sorts. It's very interesting to me.
I think ya'll are confusing your models so here's a breakdown to clear things up a little.
Viewpad 10 = Intel CPU with Windows and Android OS (dual-boot)
Viewpad 10 Pro = Intel CPU running Windows primarily with the capability of launching Android from a VM within Windows
Viewpad 10S = Tegra CPU running only Android OS
The OP is asking about the 10S not the other models that ya'll keep confusing into the mix. The 10S, like I said before, is basically a gTab with a few extra features but smaller internal storage for roughly the same price. I hope this clears things up a bit.
flipovich said:
I think ya'll are confusing your models so here's a breakdown to clear things up a little.
Viewpad 10 = Intel CPU with Windows and Android OS (dual-boot)
Viewpad 10 Pro = Intel CPU running Windows primarily with the capability of launching Android from a VM within Windows
Viewpad 10S = Tegra CPU running only Android OS
The OP is asking about the 10S not the other models that ya'll keep confusing into the mix. The 10S, like I said before, is basically a gTab with a few extra features but smaller internal storage for roughly the same price. I hope this clears things up a bit.
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Looking at the picture of the 10s leads me to believe the screen is no better than the gtablet. It has the same frame around it. And from the internal pictures/write-ups I've seen on the gtablet there has always been plenty of room left for them to simply "upgrade" it a little with 3G and GPS.
I did a lil research too. I saw videos of it at CES and the viewing angles looks the same as g tablet video I saw. My g tablet coming in soon but I dont know if I should refuse the shipment and wait for viewpad 10s.
So far 10s has
hdmi
2x usb port
glossy back.
buttons disappear on the front with return button near power on the side
2 models: 3g+GPS or Wifi only
g-tablet over 10s is
bigger battery
buttons
cheaper
The screen looks the same. The people did the viewpad 10s video didnt even mention anything about g-tablet or about the viewing angle. Anyone have info on this?
Glossy back is a down if you're like me and OCD about prints on your electronics.
G Tablet
I went and looked at one, and the screen is definitely a concern to me. Are there any versions of these that don't have the screen like that? Dark when you look at it from an angle top pointed away? I see its sort of backwards, and looks brighter when the top is pointed towards you. Very odd.
Guys, with the $50 off coupon today I had no choice but to get the Nook Color.
Can always gift it to family later
Thanks for your input, the discussion can continue!.
flashred said:
That is correct, and also the reason why I would like to go with one of these Viewpads that can boot (or VM) Windows 7 and Android 2.2
I haven't posted much (so i'm restricted) on here otherwise I would add a few links to the demonstrations I have seen on the 'tube. If you do a search for Viewpad 10 pro, you will see Android being launched in a VM of sorts. It's very interesting to me.
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Does viewpad 10s run vegacomb 3.2 build 9n good? Cheers.
Tomas.
Ok, so I am a software developer and I have a new client who wants to do some stuff with Android which probably requires a root (such as basically locking a tablet down to run a single app).
They are picking out their hardware and are looking into which version of Android to use and also whether or not to use a knockoff Chinese tablet to save money.
From my research I don't believe there is a reliable root of 4.0 yet. I assume this is because there are no big name tablets running it...although, strangely, a lot of the off-brand tablets are.
My other research seems to suggest that most roots are device specific. Is that generally true? If so does that mean that we will have a tough time rooting these offbrand tablets?
They would like to use Honeycomb because of its inherent scalability which would allow them to, theoretically, use either a 7inch or 10 inch tablet. Is this a valid assumption?
Since the app would be really all that the user would see it seems to me that it may, in the end, be better to go with an earlier and therefore more hackable version of Android such as 2.3 even though it wasn't really made for tablets.
Just want to thank you all in advance for your expertise. I look forward to your answers and thoughts.
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Anyone have some thoughts to give?
Hey guys, I'm looking for a new tablet but I'm not sure how much I want to spend. I've seen this comparison around and I was wondering what's your opinion?
It's the just released Lenovo Yoga Book vs the latest Chuwi HiBook Pro.
Similar specs but different prices. Is it worth spending so much more for a slightly better processor? The HiBook Pro has a much sharper screen (2560 x 1600) and it's a lot cheaper.
I have a chuwi hibook 10.1 and it's pretty nice, esp given the price vs other windows 10 tab and Ultrabooks. Plus it has the dual boot option of Android 5.1. The tablet itself is a good value.
The keyboard docks on these chuwi tabs, and many other cheap Chinese tabs from what I've gathered, is also pretty nice, given one glaring oversight. The touchpad. It ships with no special touchpad driver, instead using the generic MS HID Mouse driver. The problem is that there are no touchpad options.. no sensitivity settings, no swipe or gesture settings. It does support 2 finger scrolling and tapping, so it does work, but it is super sensitive. the bigger problem is that Win10 has all these mouse gestures built in, so when using it, you are always activating mouse gestures, which makes it almost useless. For example, if you move your finger from top edge in downward direction, it triggers the Windows+D hotkey (show/hide desktop). This happens all the time, as does other window key shortcuts.
Chuwi says they don't build the keyboard, and have no idea who's touchpad hardware is used. So far no real solution has been offered to make the pad register as a specific device, or even utilize the ms precision touchpad driver (which would enable options for some adjustments in Windows).
So basically, if you're planning to use the tablet as a tablet, it's fine. If you plan to use a mouse all the time it's fine. But if you plan to use the integrated touchpad, you might want to consider something else. It's my understanding that many other cheap tablets are using the same keyboard, more or less, and have the same touchpad issues. My best advice is to do lots of research before you buy if this is a concern to you.
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Thanks for the feedback! Really helpful.
I guess I'll go with Chuwi then, also because they're running this promotion: promotion.chuwi. com/chuwi-12th-anniversary-celebration/
So I could even get it for free! Win/Win.
If anyone is interested in this, I can create a mini tut how. You will need root on the other android device but not on Yogabook. I am guessing that I am the only one who uses it this way.
I use my Yogabook to draw on my Note 2014 10.1 for example. Sounds like a stupid idea, but it is not. For instance I can keep the screen at any distance I want, I also can use the pressure sensitive pen on the screen of Samsung Note without disconnecting my Yogabook So I can switch back and forth at no cost.
This seems to work with any android tablet well as long as they have proper input. I tested it with my Nook Hd and it works. So if you have a 12 inch android tablet then you will get much nicer screen space and much better pressure sensitivity. The Yogabook pen has much deeper pressure sensing compared to the wacom stuff ships with Samsung line as far a I can tell.
I haven't got one yet but plan to (there are other more urgent pending expenses), but I would love to have this for when I do get it. I'm guessing that not only will it work for other tablets but any other Android devices (like tv boxes).
But anyways, I hope you share (and that the method survives the nougat upgrade if/when it comes).
Apologies for the thread resurrection. Did you make progress with this? And if so, how well does it work?
Can I, for example, use Sketchbook or Squid on one Android device, and just use my Yoga Book as an input device for it, much as one would use an Intuos tablet on a PC? Can it operate with the Yoga Book's screen turned off?
Hello,
I own a Samsung GS2 8.0 WIFI tablet and as it has no EM-sensitive touchscreen I can't use advanced styluses.
I would like to solve this by connecting Graphic Tablet - Wacom Intuos Art.
After connecting trough OTG android finds a pointing device (mouse), but as I am trying to point anything on the Wacom Tablet there is no reaction from android.
Even buttons pressed on Wacom Tablet are not read by S2.
I did some research and I assume that it is drivers issue.
Wacom does not provide drivers for Linux nor Android, so I would like to ask this magnificent community a question...
Is there a way to make Wacom Tablet connected to GS2 work?
Appreciate any help
Thanks
Looks like XDA is a dead community about such problems. It's the 4th or 5th question that I find unanswered there. No one even can at least mention that there was some mysterious native support of wacom tablets on some Nexus phones and tablets, even with working pressure sensitivity. And this was in 2012. And the number of pages in the internet about wacom support same as about raw video on android.