So as everyone knows the GS6 will be available mid April. When Samsung first announced the GS6 I was pretty certain I wanted to get it, however I've wanted a bigger screen (currently using gs4) and the more I compare the note 4 and GS6 the specs are extremely similar. My question is 1 obviously which phone should I get and 2 does the gs6 offer anything the note doesn't. I know I can get a back for the note for wireless charging so that doesn't concern me. And I don't really use my camera to much so that's another factor I'm not concerned about.
The Note 4 has a removable battery and MicroSD slot.
It also has an Spen with all its enhancing features (pen window is infinitely useful)
And a bigger screen.
And 670mAh bigger battery (and the possibility of using a Zerolemon 10.000mAh) The S6 battery is actually 250mAh smaller than that of the S5.add to that the fact that it's non-removable.... They made a massive mistake there.
Also, a Snapdragon. Exynos is pretty powerful in regular use, but it simply doesn't have enough gHz for the heavier apps, and a Mali GPU simply isn't as powerful as an Adreno for gaming.
As far as I know the S6 offers no advantages over the Note 4.
I'm a long-time Note user so maybe I'm a bit biased, but I'd go for the Note 4 without a second though.
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ShadowLea said:
The Note 4 has a removable battery and MicroSD slot.
It also has an Spen with all its enhancing features (pen window is infinitely useful)
And a bigger screen.
And 670mAh bigger battery (and the possibility of using a Zerolemon 10.000mAh) The S6 battery is actually 250mAh smaller than that of the S5.add to that the fact that it's non-removable.... They made a massive mistake there.
Also, a Snapdragon. Exynos is pretty powerful in regular use, but it simply doesn't have enough gHz for the heavier apps, and a Mali GPU simply isn't as powerful as an Adreno for gaming.
As far as I know the S6 offers no advantages over the Note 4.
I'm a long-time Note user so maybe I'm a bit biased, but I'd go for the Note 4 without a second though.
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How large is the note in the pocket? Is it easily manageable or does it take time to get used to?
Go for the S6.
1- its size is more practical for daily use.
2- much better then the Note 4 in term of performance. The combination of the new processor (64-bit too), the new RAM (DDR4) and the new UFS storage (which is much faster than emmc) looks pretty impressive.
3- more future proof, and is already optimized for android lollipop. You don't know what kind of issues/performance problems you might get after such a big upgrade, or after future updates (many phones reported worse performance and/or worse battery after the upgrade to lollipop). Why risk it? Just go for the device that's made for this version of android.
4- Better speaker, better fingerprint scanner, Samsung pay, wireless charging out of the box, ... just a better device overall. Only thing missing is the SD card (I don't think many people really make use of the removable battery option) and considering you're going to have 32GB minimum of storage (+115GB free cloud storage) and the option to buy a 64GB or 128GB version if you want, it would actually be a waste of the power this phone has in term of speed and performance to slow it down with an SD card.
5- better version of Touchwiz (much lighter with several improvements).
6- It looks better.
Depends if you want active development or not. The note 4 will have far more development then the G6
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How large is the note in the pocket? Is it easily manageable or does it take time to get used to?
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Well, I find it pretty easy to manage.
I did have to extend my pockets, but then the pockets in female jeans can't even fit a classic phone. :laugh:
It felt a bit big the first day, but after a week you won't even notice it. By then everything else will feel tiny. In terms of handling, I can manage it with one hand quite well. (Size 6 female hands, so really small hands.)
In truth the S6 isn't much smaller, the Note 4 is only slightly less than a centimeter taller and 0,8cm wider, in total. That's +-4.5 mm on either side.
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Depends if you want active development or not. The note 4 will have far more development then the G6
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What do you mean by more development?
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What do you mean by more development?
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With the chip in the gs6 most developers won't touch it. It is very difficult due to Samsung not release documentation for the chip and it being hard to develop for.
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Go for the S6.
1- its size is more practical for daily use.
2- much better then the Note 4 in term of performance. The combination of the new processor (64-bit too), the new RAM (DDR4) and the new UFS storage (which is much faster than emmc) looks pretty impressive.
3- more future proof, and is already optimized for android lollipop. You don't know what kind of issues/performance problems you might get after such a big upgrade, or after future updates (many phones reported worse performance and/or worse battery after the upgrade to lollipop). Why risk it? Just go for the device that's made for this version of android.
4- Better speaker, better fingerprint scanner, Samsung pay, wireless charging out of the box, ... just a better device overall. Only thing missing is the SD card (I don't think many people really make use of the removable battery option) and considering you're going to have 32GB minimum of storage (+115GB free cloud storage) and the option to buy a 64GB or 128GB version if you want, it would actually be a waste of the power this phone has in term of speed and performance to slow it down with an SD card.
5- better version of Touchwiz (much lighter with several improvements).
6- It looks better.
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With the chip in the gs6 most developers won't touch it. It is very difficult due to Samsung not release documentation for the chip and it being hard to develop for.
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One thing I have never looked into or have been concerned about is bloatware. Does bloatware actually have any impact on performance? Currently I use a custom home screen and lock screen (nova launcher and hi locker). I hide all the bullcrap apps samsung and att include so I never see them and for most of them notifications are off. I know the apps take up space but that's not a huge deal since i have a micro sd. And honestly transfer speeds aren't that important since I keep all my apps on the phone memory and movies and random files on the sd card.
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One thing I have never looked into or have been concerned about is bloatware. Does bloatware actually have any impact on performance? Currently I use a custom home screen and lock screen (nova launcher and hi locker). I hide all the bullcrap apps samsung and att include so I never see them and for most of them notifications are off. I know the apps take up space but that's not a huge deal since i have a micro sd. And honestly transfer speeds aren't that important since I keep all my apps on the phone memory and movies and random files on the sd card.
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Disabling them do help, but too many needless apps do affect the performance, especially with Samsung embedding their apps deep in the system. With the S6 though they cleaned that up and only left two of their apps (S-voice and S-health) pre-installed. The concern about bloatware is performance not storage.
The SD card slows down the system more than you think because many apps do access or try to access the SD card when available. Simplest to illustrate would be the gallery app which will slow down considerably if you use an SD card. Also the camera app can't record some (very) high quality videos on SD cards (because it needs quicker write speed than SD cards allow) and will require you to switch to internal storage... etc.
The SD card imo was a good option to have when internal storage was very expensive and most devices would ship with only 8GB/16GB storage (of which less than 10 GB is accessible). But with internal storage getting cheaper (in addition to it being faster and more reliable) it's logical that the industry is making the shift towards the better experience, and even though some people (including me until recently) are still clinging to what they're used to, in this case the change is imo pretty justified (that's my opinion though).
Having said that, the best way for you to decide is to wait until you got your hand on an S6 and experience it yourself, so my advice would be wait until then and I'm pretty sure your decision will be much easier.
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Disabling them do help, but too many needless apps do affect the performance, especially with Samsung embedding their apps deep in the system. With the S6 though they cleaned that up and only left two of their apps (S-voice and S-health) pre-installed. The concern about bloatware is performance not storage.
The SD card slows down the system more than you think because many apps do access or try to access the SD card when available. Simplest to illustrate would be the gallery app which will slow down considerably if you use an SD card. Also the camera app can't record some (very) high quality videos on SD cards (because it needs quicker write speed than SD cards allow) and will require you to switch to internal storage... etc.
The SD card imo was a good option to have when internal storage was very expensive and most devices would ship with only 8GB/16GB storage (of which less than 10 GB is accessible). But with internal storage getting cheaper (in addition to it being faster and more reliable) it's logical that the industry is making the shift towards the better experience, and even though some people (including me until recently) are still clinging to what they're used to, in this case the change is imo pretty justified (that's my opinion though).
Having said that, the best way for you to decide is to wait until you got your hand on an S6 and experience it yourself, so my advice would be wait until then and I'm pretty sure your decision will be much easier.
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I think the one issue with only on board storage is that if you damage your device then you lose everything. At least with an SD card you can save the important stuff
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I think the one issue with only on board storage is that if you damage your device then you lose everything. At least with an SD card you can save the important stuff
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True (in most cases), but corrupted SD cards (which leads to losing all the info on it) is far more common than damaged devices. Two relatives of mine lost valuable data (pictures) because of SD card problems.
Also with the option of having 115 GB free of cloud storage (that comes with the S6), you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone.
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True (in most cases), but corrupted SD cards (which leads to losing all the info on it) is far more common than damaged devices. Two relatives of mine lost valuable data (pictures) because of SD card problems.
Also with the option of having 115 GB free of cloud storage (that comes with the S6), you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone.
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Not everyone has data like that. Take where I live. Going out of town and I dont even have cell signal for days.
Odd I have been using the same SD card for almost like 4 years and never had an issue.
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Not everyone has data like that. Take where I live. Going out of town and I dont even have cell signal for days.
Odd I have been using the same SD card for almost like 4 years and never had an issue.
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I'm not saying it happens to everyone, I'm just saying it's far more common than damaged whole devices. I haven't had a problem either with my SD card (using it for over 2 years now).
The cloud storage is an option (which I imagine most people can make use of), and it's not meant that you synchronize your data all the time, you can just do it once or twice every month when you have wireless internet. That should at least limit the loss of data because of any damage to your device. But regardless of this option, internal storage is still much more reliable than SD cards on its own.
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True (in most cases), but corrupted SD cards (which leads to losing all the info on it) is far more common than damaged devices. Two relatives of mine lost valuable data (pictures) because of SD card problems.
Also with the option of having 115 GB free of cloud storage (that comes with the S6), you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone.
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I'd really like to invite you to try my daily routine for a month. 80% of my 7.5 hour commute by train (per day), my signal is limited to "Emergency Calls".
64GB of internal memory, (the 128GB is far too expensive) that allows for, let's see... 3 hours of film in 1080, give or take. Since obviously everything else will be filled with all the other formerly-on-my-SD data, such as 30GB of magazines, 15GB worth of comics, 5GB worth of photo's, 5GB of ebooks, 25GB of music and... Oh. Hang on. 30+15+5+5+25 = 80GB. I guess that doesn't leave much room for, well, anything.
Now whatever am I going to do in the remaining 4.5 hours?
Even if I buy the 128GB S6, that would still leave me with over 40GB of missing space (counting 8GB for Android+system apps), since I have a 32GB Note 3 and a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD.
A MicroSD is an absolutely vital component for me. Without it, a device is worthless to me as a mobile media center. (And since I average 2 minutes per month worth of calling... I'm not exactly using it for the mobile functions. )
I've never had a memory card corrupt on me, and I've been using them for pretty much everything for over a decade. Now, cracked screens, damaged phones, random wipes and sudden death syndromes? That happens far too bloody often. I remember receiving over 5000 SDS cases in a month once. A MicroSD would've saved their data...
The cloud is perfectly fine when you're in a country that spans a continent, or you don't leave your home city. And your country offers unlimited data.
Me? I live on the border. There's this nightmare called 'Roaming'. And the biggest available data subscription? 10GB per month. MAX. And it doesn't apply when I walk 1km due east. There's this massive thing called Germany there, where my data is invalid and I have to use Roaming for the price of 2 quid per MB..
Let's see how much that 115GB cloud is going to cost me, then.
115GB, that's 117760MB.
117760x2 = 235520 euro/dollar/pound. I don't know how rich you are, but unless you're Bill Gates, that's not happening.
So. 235520 quid to use all of your cloud once, or 89 quid for an unlimited-use, no additional fees, no network required 128GB MicroSD?
That's not really a choice, is it?
Make no mistake. well over 90% of the world does NOT have a stable, unlimited, constant high speed mobile network connection. The cloud is useless outside that little bubble.
(Edit: Sorry if that sounded a little rude. Wasn't meant to.)
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I'd really like to invite you to try my daily routine for a month. 80% of my 7.5 hour commute by train (per day), my signal is limited to "Emergency Calls".
64GB of internal memory, (the 128GB is far too expensive) that allows for, let's see... 3 hours of film in 1080, give or take. Since obviously everything else will be filled with all the other formerly-on-my-SD data, such as 30GB of magazines, 15GB worth of comics, 5GB worth of photo's, 5GB of ebooks, 25GB of music and... Oh. Hang on. 30+15+5+5+25 = 80GB. I guess that doesn't leave much room for, well, anything.
Now whatever am I going to do in the remaining 4.5 hours?
Even if I buy the 128GB S6, that would still leave me with over 40GB of missing space (counting 8GB for Android+system apps), since I have a 32GB Note 3 and a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD.
A MicroSD is an absolutely vital component for me. Without it, a device is worthless to me as a mobile media center. (And since I average 2 minutes per month worth of calling... I'm not exactly using it for the mobile functions. )
I've never had a memory card corrupt on me, and I've been using them for pretty much everything for over a decade. Now, cracked screens, damaged phones, random wipes and sudden death syndromes? That happens far too bloody often. I remember receiving over 5000 SDS cases in a month once. A MicroSD would've saved their data...
The cloud is perfectly fine when you're in a country that spans a continent, or you don't leave your home city. And your country offers unlimited data.
Me? I live on the border. There's this nightmare called 'Roaming'. And the biggest available data subscription? 10GB per month. MAX. And it doesn't apply when I walk 1km due east. There's this massive thing called Germany there, where my data is invalid and I have to use Roaming for the price of 2 quid per MB..
Let's see how much that 115GB cloud is going to cost me, then.
115GB, that's 117760MB.
117760x2 = 235520 euro/dollar/pound. I don't know how rich you are, but unless you're Bill Gates, that's not happening.
So. 235520 quid to use all of your cloud once, or 89 quid for an unlimited-use, no additional fees, no network required 128GB MicroSD?
That's not really a choice, is it?
Make no mistake. well over 90% of the world does NOT have a stable, unlimited, constant high speed mobile network connection. The cloud is useless outside that little bubble.
(Edit: Sorry if that sounded a little rude. Wasn't meant to.)
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Yeah i have a bit of an issue with cloud as well. Being that I'm on a 10gb family share plan I am limited to about 4gb a month. Since I use the most amount of my phones capacity when I am traveling(which I do often) I can't simply sync with the cloud. I use about 10-15gb of space when I travel for things like movies(6-7gb if I get the low file sized one), random extra games to play(2-3gb), books, music, etc. And I'll tell you what hotel wifi is the devil. And when I travel to Oregon for example, the person I stay with does not have wifi(I know unbelievable). But either way for me SD space is pretty important. Being that the S6 will be at least $50-100 more to go from 32 to 64 and then from 64 to 128 it starts to ad up pretty quickly.
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I'd really like to invite you to try my daily routine for a month. 80% of my 7.5 hour commute by train (per day), my signal is limited to "Emergency Calls".
64GB of internal memory, (the 128GB is far too expensive) that allows for, let's see... 3 hours of film in 1080, give or take. Since obviously everything else will be filled with all the other formerly-on-my-SD data, such as 30GB of magazines, 15GB worth of comics, 5GB worth of photo's, 5GB of ebooks, 25GB of music and... Oh. Hang on. 30+15+5+5+25 = 80GB. I guess that doesn't leave much room for, well, anything.
Now whatever am I going to do in the remaining 4.5 hours?
Even if I buy the 128GB S6, that would still leave me with over 40GB of missing space (counting 8GB for Android+system apps), since I have a 32GB Note 3 and a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD.
A MicroSD is an absolutely vital component for me. Without it, a device is worthless to me as a mobile media center. (And since I average 2 minutes per month worth of calling... I'm not exactly using it for the mobile functions. )
I've never had a memory card corrupt on me, and I've been using them for pretty much everything for over a decade. Now, cracked screens, damaged phones, random wipes and sudden death syndromes? That happens far too bloody often. I remember receiving over 5000 SDS cases in a month once. A MicroSD would've saved their data...
The cloud is perfectly fine when you're in a country that spans a continent, or you don't leave your home city. And your country offers unlimited data.
Me? I live on the border. There's this nightmare called 'Roaming'. And the biggest available data subscription? 10GB per month. MAX. And it doesn't apply when I walk 1km due east. There's this massive thing called Germany there, where my data is invalid and I have to use Roaming for the price of 2 quid per MB..
Let's see how much that 115GB cloud is going to cost me, then.
115GB, that's 117760MB.
117760x2 = 235520 euro/dollar/pound. I don't know how rich you are, but unless you're Bill Gates, that's not happening.
So. 235520 quid to use all of your cloud once, or 89 quid for an unlimited-use, no additional fees, no network required 128GB MicroSD?
That's not really a choice, is it?
Make no mistake. well over 90% of the world does NOT have a stable, unlimited, constant high speed mobile network connection. The cloud is useless outside that little bubble.
(Edit: Sorry if that sounded a little rude. Wasn't meant to.)
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Not at all.
I wasn't talking personally to you. I was talking generally about the pros and cons of SD cards.
As I said in my last post, I wasn't talking about the cloud as everyday storage option, I was talking about it as a safety measure to backup your data in the very rare case you damaged your phone. I understand that you're not home for long periods of time, but eventually I imagine you'll have to get home and you'll have wireless internet, through which you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone to avoid any loss of data. That was my point.
There are good deals for the 128 GB version of the S6 right now (much cheaper than when I bought the 16GB S4 2 years ago), and there will be better deals in a few months because internal storage is getting cheaper. I was explaining why internal storage, even though it's still more expensive than SD cards (though not as expensive as it was a year ago), is indeed a huge improvement in term of performance and reliability compared to SD cards, which is why it's imo worth the extra money.
I totally understand if for you that 32GB extra (128GB vs 160GB, not 40GB because the Note3 also comes with a system loaded on it) is a deal breaker. But not everybody is in a situation like you. In fact if you asked me for my opinion about what phone you should get I would have definitely told you to get the Note 4, not because of the SD card, but because if you're using your phone to watch movies 7 hours per day then for you the bigger screen will have a higher value and will outweigh the practicality of carrying a smaller device.
However like I said, not everybody is in your situation, and from what I've seen with people around me, most people actually don't need more than 64GB of storage, including me, even though I'll be getting the 128GB version of the S6 because I got a good deal for it. And for people who don't need that 32GB extra (on top of the 128GB) there are a lot of pros of getting 64GB/128GB of internal storage (rather than 64GB/128GB SD card) that imo justifies the extra cost (which is now not as big as it was a year or two ago). After all performance is also a very important factor why we upgrade our devices.
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Not at all.
I wasn't talking personally to you. I was talking generally about the pros and cons of SD cards.
As I said in my last post, I wasn't talking about the cloud as everyday storage option, I was talking about it as a safety measure to backup your data in the very rare case you damaged your phone. I understand that you're not home for long periods of time, but eventually I imagine you'll have to get home and you'll have wireless internet, through which you can easily backup all the important data you have on your phone to avoid any loss of data. That was my point.
There are good deals for the 128 GB version of the S6 right now (much cheaper than when I bought the 16GB S4 2 years ago), and there will be better deals in a few months because internal storage is getting cheaper. I was explaining why internal storage, even though it's still more expensive than SD cards (though not as expensive as it was a year ago), is indeed a huge improvement in term of performance and reliability compared to SD cards, which is why it's imo worth the extra money.
I totally understand if for you that 32GB extra (128GB vs 160GB, not 40GB because the Note3 also comes with a system loaded on it) is a deal breaker. But not everybody is in a situation like you. In fact if you asked me for my opinion about what phone you should get I would have definitely told you to get the Note 4, not because of the SD card, but because if you're using your phone to watch movies 7 hours per day then for you the bigger screen will have a higher value and will outweigh the practicality of carrying a smaller device.
However like I said, not everybody is in your situation, and from what I've seen with people around me, most people actually don't need more than 64GB of storage, including me, even though I'll be getting the 128GB version of the S6 because I got a good deal for it. And for people who don't need that 32GB extra (on top of the 128GB) there are a lot of pros of getting 64GB/128GB of internal storage (rather than 64GB/128GB SD card) that imo justifies the extra cost (which is now not as big as it was a year or two ago). After all performance is also a very important factor why we upgrade our devices.
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What are the prices for the S6? I haven't seen anything on it yet. I'm in the US btw.
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What are the prices for the S6? I haven't seen anything on it yet. I'm in the US btw.
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I got it with contract in the Netherlands and the device (128GB S6) itself cost me a total of 779 euro (the combination of the 16GB S4 I have right now + 64GB SD card cost me about 750 euro two years ago).
Check service providers, it's likely that you'll find very good deals.
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I got it with contract in the Netherlands and the device (128GB S6) itself cost me a total of 779 euro (the combination of the 16GB S4 I have right now + 64GB SD card cost me about 750 euro two years ago).
Check service providers, it's likely that you'll find very good deals.
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There hasn't really been any pricing in the US yet. For us the s6 isn't released until april 10.
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Ok so I LOVE Windows Phone 7.5, the Radar, and Zune Music Pass. But who thought it would be a smart idea to give us only 8GB to store XBox Live Games, Unlimited Music, and all these rich apps? I would understand it if I could store music in the cloud like I can with pictures but after coming from Android with 16GB built in and a 32GB SD Card it feels like I am using a phone that was put on discount and sold to someone who didn't know any better (aka. iPhone 4 8GB).
Something has to be done about the issue with expandable memory on this OS or even with 16GB (let's not forget we have Movies on the Zune Market) it still leaves me feeling constrained. Even if we don't get expandable memory, witch I am fine with, give us 32GB and 64GB options on whatever will replace the Radar.
Love the phone but even with all the positive when I am already at 2GB left with less than a week of use I am starting to worry and wanting to return it because of this one set back.
Well I suppose you're big enough to read and think before you buy something
As un insightful as that was I knew the limit I just didnt think the impact would be this noticeable.
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I've had a DVP with 8GB of storage for over a year and NEVER came close to filling her up. You don't need to store your entire music and video catalog on the device.
I thought the zune pass just lets you play music over the air and download 10 songs per month. Anyways, I think 8 gig is plenty for a phone, at least for me. + I think those limitations were the reason why it was bit cheaper. Usually it costs at least 450 for the phone without the contract.
i never understand why people would pay to download movie and watch on the phone? what happen to the 3k you spent on the home entertainment system.
8 gb is plenty for storing music and picture.
As a mp3 player it's pretty cramped. Obviously some can work within those boundaries. But especially if your music is stored in higher bitrates or lossless formats you are going to feel the pinch.
The fact is it's not designed to be an iPod. With Zune you have access to the entire Zune library all the time. The only music you need to store on the device are titles that Zune doesn't have, plus whatever you might need for offline listening (like on a plane).
Of course, that's asking people to completely change the way they think about "owning" and playing music. And it won't work for everyone. But that's the philosophy behind the design.
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I agree, it's 2012, 8gb just doesn't cut it for the modern consumer anymore. I have a radar as my backup phone, since it was free. Now that my beloved HD2 has a broken digitizer, I'm using my radar. Nice phone, a lil small, but the 8 gigs is killing me, lol! Can't wait to fix my LEO and get back to more storage.
I just got this phone as well. And while I got it mainly for Xbox Live because i'm SUCH an achievement whore, I can't stand the fact it only has 8GB and NO SD EXPANSION. I mean Seriously? why the **** are we taking the iphone route here? It's kinda lame. The phone is nice but no SD Card Expansion is a Deal Breaker for me.
I have another Android Phone if I didn't have that one then I most defiantly would not have the radar.
I've had both a iPhone 4 with 8gb, and now the Radar. I have yet to come close to hitting the full amount of memory. The only problem I have seen when it came to limits, was an error in IE about my favorites, and not having enough space. But other then that, I'm content with my 8gb, and still have room for more music and movies.
Hopefully you can open up the phone and add a bigger SD card like the HD7. Only problem is, is that you'll risk voiding your warranty by opening the phone. I PERSONALLY DO NOT OWN THE RADAR SO I CAN'T TEST IT OUT.
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8 GB is not enough for me as all of my music collection is MP3 320 kbps.
However, as soon as the Google Music player for WP7.5 is released, I will have lesser need for storing lots of MP3 on the phone.
I do love my HD2 with the 16 GB storage. 16 GB seems to be a good compromise between amount of storage needed and keeping price of a phone low.
8gb of storage is way too low. First is not even a full 8gb. Out of the box its something like 6.52gb. Then you install a couple app and games and you're only in the 5gb range. I downloaded my podcasts that keep me awake through the day and now I only have 2gb of data left for music. This was a poor decision on Microsoft's and the manufacturer's part.
After reviewing articles about the Radar, I decided to buy one. Now, I understood that the radar had 8GB of storage (btw, this is enough for me). But on my device it states 6.54GB Total Storage. Bit of noob question, What happened to the remaining 1.46 GB of storage?? Or is this normal?
Part of it is base 8 vs. base 10 math (1024 vs 1000) and the rest is allocated by the OS and OEM applications.
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Part of it is base 8 vs. base 10 math (1024 vs 1000) and the rest is allocated by the OS and OEM applications.
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Sorry to be pedantic but it's base 2 (binary) vs base 10 (decimal).
2^10 = 1024
10^3 = 1000
Before I got my Radar, I had an HTC Trophy. The 8GB was just not cutting it, so I searched online and discovered that you could open it it up and replace the internal memory. The internal memory took form of a Micro-SD card. I replaced the stock 8GB with a 32GB. Restarted the phone and voila. It worked like a charm.
I'm hoping that this can be done on the Radar too, however there are a few of issues.
1. Unibody will make it quite painful to reach the internals.
2. Opening it up will void warranty.
3. A few on WPCentral forums have mentioned that the 2nd Gen WP Phones may have switched from internal flash memory to NAND memory?
I haven't heard it being done on the Radar. It might not be possible without de-soldering the flash chip.
So annoying, another phone I'm interested in ruined straight away by no Micro SD and only a 16gb version. Problem is with tech it moves so fast that making you wait a few months for a 32gb version means I might as well then wait for the Galaxy S4 lol.
I don't get why we're going backwards in terms of storage.
Non expandable storage is pretty much criminal, yeah. Jury is out on the battery size, but there's no reason they couldn't have included a SD slot - it's less than a dollar's worth of parts.
Even if the battery turns out to be adequate, the lack of storage makes the phone untenable. 32gb could have been lived with, 64gb would be ideal.
I understand where you are coming from but when you look from a "normal" consumers point of view they probably could care less because most dont know how it works.
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So annoying, another phone I'm interested in ruined straight away by no Micro SD and only a 16gb version. Problem is with tech it moves so fast that making you wait a few months for a 32gb version means I might as well then wait for the Galaxy S4 lol.
I don't get why we're going backwards in terms of storage.
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I really don't see the problem, okay I lie, I do. But it is not that big of a deal, with cloud storage like dropbox (50 gb free with gs3) and drive, I would mostly use the 11 gb for pics and videos and apps, which fills up fast with the new advance camera's. So I automatically have my pics uploaded to google+, upload my videos via wifee to dropbox. Apps, I'm just going to have to deal with it, music is stored on google music.
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I really don't see the problem, okay I lie, I do. But it is not that big of a deal, with cloud storage like dropbox (50 gb free with gs3) and drive, I would mostly use the 11 gb for pics and videos and apps, which fills up fast with the new advance camera's. So I automatically have my pics uploaded to google+, upload my videos via wifee to dropbox. Apps, I'm just going to have to deal with it, music is stored on google music.
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I have to agree. I dont use my phone to store movies.
I use DropBox & Drive to store music and short video's. With the 100 or so apps I have on my 8GB thunderbolt and tons of pictures, I still have about 1.8GB of free space on it.
Still, it woudl be nice to have a 32GB option, or the SD slot.. very silly of HTC not to have more storage capacity in their new 'flagship phone' ... but 16GB is going to be fine for me for the next 2 years.
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ZigZagJoe said:
Non expandable storage is pretty much criminal, yeah. Jury is out on the battery size, but there's no reason they couldn't have included a SD slot - it's less than a dollar's worth of parts.
Even if the battery turns out to be adequate, the lack of storage makes the phone untenable. 32gb could have been lived with, 64gb would be ideal.
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Strange...... pdadb.net states that the DNA has a micro SD slot supporting up to 32gigs. http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3950&c=htc_droid_dna_adr6435__droid_incredible_x_htc_dlx but that might have been a rumor or based on the Japanese sister phone "J-Butterfly". The Verizon website makes no mention of a micro SD slot though. Deal breaker for me!
I would have loved if it had 32 gigs on board as well. Then the I could have dealt with the lack of micro sd.
I don't want to have to have to play the cloud storage file management game where I have to keep uploading and downloading and deciding what I want on my phone. I don't mind 16GB internal as long as I have a micro SD slot or I don't mind having 32GB and no Micro SD right now. The problem is files and apps are only going to get larger so by the time 16GB goes away in favour of 32GB that'll be too small then too.
I mean just give me an option to have the storage size I want. 16GB is only like 11-13GB usable..... well over half of that goes to my music and then some games are a couple GB now....... suddenly I'm out of space and cannot record video.
Just had an online chat with Verizon Rep and she put me on hold while she checked and confirmed that the micro sd card slot is not mentioned on the specs on the verizon page (as I told her). I told her that Verizon had made a big mistake (with less total memory than my Rezound) on the DNA. She said "Verizon is not the manufacturer" (Duh!). I said true but it is made to Verizon's specifications by hTC.....oh well! I might be forced into the arms of the Galaxy Note II (which at least has up to 64 gigs of micro sd storage available to go with its paltry 16 gigs on board).
Sorry to say it guys, but you are going to see more of this down the road. This has been brought up by all the manufacturers for the last year or two. For some reason the manufacturers want to push us to cloud service. I can see a 32gb coming out soon, but as for sd card slot.... When I first got the phone for testing, the first thing I said was "no SD card slot". After taking with HTC I moved all my music to Google cloud and found that it works very good with the Google Music player. So what I'm trying to say is you are going to see this more down the road.
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Sorry to say it guys, but you are going to see more of this down the road. This has been brought up by all the manufacturers for the last year or two. For some reason the manufacturers want to push us to cloud service. I can see a 32gb coming out soon, but as for sd card slot.... When I first got the phone for testing, the first thing I said was "no SD card slot". After taking with HTC I moved all my music to Google cloud and found that it works very good with the Google Music player. So what I'm trying to say is you are going to see this more down the road.
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I agree. I wonder how long it will be before we see a 32gb version (if we do).
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Until Networks increase data caps dramatically, cloud storage is useless.
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Until Networks increase data caps dramatically, cloud storage is useless.
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Yes your right, something needs to be done. The DNA is not the only new hot phone with no SD card slot, check out the Google Nexus 7 and Google Nexus 4. Like I said we will see more and more of this down the road.
verizon spec'd the phone without a micro SD slot. The J Butterfly did have it (if I remember correctly). Drink up more data from them. That is what they are selling now, not phone calls.
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Yes your right, something needs to be done. The DNA is not the only new hot phone with no SD card slot, check out the Google Nexus 7 and Google Nexus 4. Like I said we will see more and more of this down the road.
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I've been interested in getting a new handset since the Nexus 4 purely because it was so cheap, however without a 32GB model at least it becomes useless for me even at the price, it would be like downgrading. Now however I'm interested in buying a new mobile just because I've gotten myself excited at the thought, even though my upgrade is in April and I'm perfectly happy with my GS2. Now this phone was announced I thought great it's basically a Nexus 4........ no 32GB or Micro SD...... FFS!
I'm just gonna end up waiting till April and hopefully the GS4 will be on the horizon and I'll get that, no way would Samsung design it without a Micro SD or at least a 32GB model.
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dweezle said:
verizon spec'd the phone without a micro SD slot. The J Butterfly did have it (if I remember correctly). Drink up more data from them. That is what they are selling now, not phone calls.
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I just realized that you are absolutely correct ! freakin verizon... why else would they make such a small internal capacity, amazing screen to make u watch more videos and no sd storage
I dont know why that didnt click in my head
I wonder how long will HTC keep bending over for verizon ? until they lose all their customer base completely... ?
It's like a crippled expensive horse. I will wait to see some DNA+ edition etc. Then maybe if the storage is right i will buy it
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verizon spec'd the phone without a micro SD slot. The J Butterfly did have it (if I remember correctly). Drink up more data from them. That is what they are selling now, not phone calls.
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I wouldn't say Verizon spec'd out the phone. HTC took many users considerations into this phone. Remember XDA and/or developers are only a small part of the cell phone world. I'm not saying I like the ideal of 16gb without a SD card, but......
~16GB doesn't effect my choice of any future phone. I got 25GB on Skydrive, 30 on DB and the measly 7GB on GDrive. So essentially those 16GB is only temp storage for photos/videos before I delete them off the phone once i see there already on DB and my music is streamed from Google Music. So the majority of it is for Apps which i don't download many anyways.
You people complain about MORE MORE MORE!! But dam what are keeping on that phone? Pictures and Videos? Things that can easily be lost if the phone gets lost/stolen or outright bricks on you. NO offense
But to each their own
I wan't Google to release a Desktop Client for Android like Zune or ... forgive me iTunes which i can easily plug my phone to charge and everything gets backed up via USB or Wifi.
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~16GB doesn't effect my choice of any future phone. I got 25GB on Skydrive, 30 on DB and the measly 7GB on GDrive. So essentially those 16GB is only temp storage for photos/videos before I delete them off the phone once i see there already on DB and my music is streamed from Google Music. So the majority of it is for Apps which i don't download many anyways.
You people complain about MORE MORE MORE!! But dam what are keeping on that phone? Pictures and Videos? Things that can easily be lost if the phone gets lost/stolen or outright bricks on you. NO offense
But to each their own
I wan't Google to release a Desktop Client for Android like Zune or ... forgive me iTunes which i can easily plug my phone to charge and everything gets backed up via USB or Wifi.
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Not everyone has an unlimited plan, I'm stuck on a shared 4GB data plan w/ 4 people if I go with Verizon. Sprint is starting to get tempting though...
if i absolutely know
Tachi91 said:
~16GB doesn't effect my choice of any future phone. I got 25GB on Skydrive, 30 on DB and the measly 7GB on GDrive. So essentially those 16GB is only temp storage for photos/videos before I delete them off the phone once i see there already on DB and my music is streamed from Google Music. So the majority of it is for Apps which i don't download many anyways.
You people complain about MORE MORE MORE!! But dam what are keeping on that phone? Pictures and Videos? Things that can easily be lost if the phone gets lost/stolen or outright bricks on you. NO offense
But to each their own
I wan't Google to release a Desktop Client for Android like Zune or ... forgive me iTunes which i can easily plug my phone to charge and everything gets backed up via USB or Wifi.
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I keep EVERY THING on clouds, picasa , 100 gb google drive , google music
I just dont trust verizon to let me keep my grandfather unlimited forever, and i am terrified to wake up one day to realize that i have a 2gb cap to access 160 gb worth of material
between custom roms , and recoveries and the rom backups , 16 gb is barely enough . at that point , where i will have to buy an mp3 player and carry that separately.
and i can kiss pandora goodbye if verizon caps it
the only thing i am certain of is the phone specs and that verizon are flat out without any conscious or loyalty.
Hey guys.
I had a Note 4 and decided to give it to my sister and now wanting the S6 Edge. I had a 32gb note with a 64Gb card with about 38GB of music.
And Im now leaning towarda the 64gb model. Want to know peoples experience with their chosen storage. What did you choose and was it enough? Did you wish you went a step higher?
With the amount of data you had earlier, it's obvious that you need at least 64GB device. Don't forget that the S6 does not have expandable storage.
I had an LG G3 32GB with a 64GB card. It was a overkill for me, using less than 20GB of data on the card and a few more on the device. As for internal storage, for a 64GB unit, only about 55GB is available to you, so you gotta base your usage on that.
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With the amount of data you had earlier, it's obvious that you need at least 64GB device. Don't forget that the S6 does not have expandable storage.
I had an LG G3 32GB with a 64GB card. It was a overkill for me, using less than 20GB of data on the card and a few more on the device. As for internal storage, for a 64GB unit, only about 55GB is available to you, so you gotta base your usage on that.
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TBH I could survive with 32GB. But I got the 64GB. I got the Nexus6 in 64 for that reason. Well because I could!
My iphones are 128GB as well. Apple keeping 16 instead of 32 for the entry device is silly. Many will be frustrated when their (nearly full) devices cannot be updated to later iOS versions!
I probably would have got the 128GB S6 if it were available.
But I won't lose sleep over not having it.
OTG works fine for bulk transfers.
Air droid on our 5GHz AC network is plenty fast even for copying full roms and is it ever convenient!
I went for a 64gb. My old phone had 32gb and I was forever deleting stuff off it, I would have liked the 128 more but yeah at least I can now have a few games and more music.
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I went for a 64gb. My old phone had 32gb and I was forever deleting stuff off it, I would have liked the 128 more but yeah at least I can now have a few games and more music.
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32gb is enough for me, i actually store music on google music , you can upload your music to it using google music manager on PC , can have 50,000 and single file can be 300mb , of course you need data as it will stream, as im on unlimited don't have any issues and plays instantly , and when moving to another device can just log in its so quick, how things have progressed, i really dont have any use for sd cards now !:good:
I've only got a few albums (3 or 4) on my phone at the moment. I only get 1.5gb data so it's not enough to stream off the net, I would use it up to quickly. I have 15 games on here, some I'm only trying and deleting. I Still have 32gb free
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I got the 64. I could possibly have settled for the 32gb, but i prefer not having to worry about it, and be able to install a ton of different games that i probably wont play. The problem with 32 is that it becomes 21 after the system, and in my case 10gb less after you synchronize spotify, leaving me with 11gb for games/apps/roms/backups etc.
So 64 is a nice middle point, i feel like it's only in a few unique cases that 128 would be necessary.
I also came from a 32gb note with a 64gb sd card.
blue13x said:
Hey guys.
I had a Note 4 and decided to give it to my sister and now wanting the S6 Edge. I had a 32gb note with a 64Gb card with about 38GB of music.
And Im now leaning towarda the 64gb model. Want to know peoples experience with their chosen storage. What did you choose and was it enough? Did you wish you went a step higher?
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When switching from my Note 4 to my S6 edge and trying to determine the capacity I needed, I just looked at the total combined storage of what I was currently using on my Note 4. I understood that some of those files were OS related files.
I didn't feel like dealing with the hassle of deleting files just to switch devices and I was close to the 64GB threshold, so I went with the 128GB. I'm glad I did.
I'm a heavy Cloud user, all my music is on Google, pictures are stored on MS OneDrive, etc. I had a 16GB iPhone 6+ and wasn't too limited. Picked up the 64gb just because it wasn't too much more and gave me plenty of space.
SomeGuyDude said:
I'm a heavy Cloud user, all my music is on Google, pictures are stored on MS OneDrive, etc. I had a 16GB iPhone 6+ and wasn't too limited. Picked up the 64gb just because it wasn't too much more and gave me plenty of space.
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I don't mind using Google or Dropbox, but Microsoft OneDrive has the absolute worst upload rate of any online storage out there.
I tried uploading pictures to OneDrive several times and the upload speeds were painfully slow. After a quick Google search I realized it was a Microsoft issue that they refuse to fix. Microsoft keeps somewhat acknowledging it as an issue and releasing "how to" instructions tips in order to fool people into thinking they are helping, but they're not addressing the hardware issues related to the problem.
So much for that 2 years/100GB of space for free through OneDrive because I consider it pretty worthless.
done12many2 said:
When switching from my Note 4 to my S6 edge and trying to determine the capacity I needed, I just looked at the total combined storage of what I was currently using on my Note 4. I understood that some of those files were OS related files.
I didn't feel like dealing with the hassle of deleting files just to switch devices and I was close to the 64GB threshold, so I went with the 128GB. I'm glad I did.
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everyone wants that. But its crazy expensive. Dont want to pay too much, cause I know a Note 5 is right around the corner.
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everyone wants that. But its crazy expensive. Dont wanna pay too much, cause I know a Note 5 is right around the corner.
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That's pretty much the story of my life. Something is always right around the corner. Truth told, I'll probably buy the Note 5, but there's no guarantees. I'm pretty happy with the size of the S6 edge.
The other thing I considered when pondering space was the fact that things start running slower when you start running closer to capacity. I like to leave plenty of overhead for the sake of keeping it nice and smooth.
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I don't mind using Google or Dropbox, but Microsoft OneDrive has the absolute worst upload rate of any online storage out there.
I tried uploading pictures to OneDrive several times and the upload speeds were painfully slow. After a quick Google search I realized it was a Microsoft issue that they refuse to fix. Microsoft keeps somewhat acknowledging it as an issue and releasing "how to" instructions tips in order to fool people into thinking they are helping, but they're not addressing the hardware issues related to the problem.
So much for that 2 years/100GB of space for free through OneDrive because I consider it pretty worthless.
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Sorry it isn't working for you, OneDrive has been gangbusters for me. I uploaded about half a gig and it didn't take that long at all. Sitting happily with my 1.12TB of storage and not planning on switching back any time soon.
16 would have been enough for me. I stream most things
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16 would have been enough for me. I stream most things
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16 is more than enough for me too.. I stream everything from my 14 tb plex server
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I opted for the 64GB version, only because the 128GB one wasn't available here (Samsung decided not to release that model here)! I keep some of my work docs on my device and occasionally need to access them when I have zero signal so cloud storage isn't an option for me unless it's personal pics or music or other unimportant stuff. If I need extra storage on top of the 64GB I'll just get me an OTG flash drive, but so far I still have about 35GB free so I should be ok!
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I have 26 gig of music, 104 apps, 13 gigs remaining on my 64. This is adequate for my needs, I've been on android for the start and have a consistent app package with the occasional new app coming on and an old app riding off into the sunset. You likely either know exactly how much you are using and whether that is on the move or not, if in doubt, get more. But then I'm a bit of a slut.
128GB. Version you can never have too much space. I use my phone every day and couldn't live with out it any more. When I'm that dependant on it why wouldn't I get the largest capacity?
Decided to take the 128gb myself. Didnt want to deal with storage problems...but crazzzy expensive here in europe.
64GB is plenty. Trying to sell the 128GB at a decent price will be harder once the Note 5 comes out as well, so went with the middle option.
TO ALL INTERNATIONAL MEDIA,
As a person living in a third world country let me express my deepest objection to the path tech giants are taking with regard to the removal of the MicroSD card. The explanations given for such removal are baby talk from companies who make their living off the consumer. Their sole purpose of doing such is that they get a chance to earn more by forcing the consumer to buy their extremely expensive internal storage. Companies such as Google also wish to make money off cloud storage plus they wish make internet service providers even richer because in countries like Sri Lanka a GB of data costs the user 2USD. Which makes cloud storage practically useless. Its clear that with the removal of the MicroSD card companies such as Google and Samsung have a win win situation and would be also praised by ISP's maybe even a underhand million dollar commission to those who made the decision not to have a MicroSD card. I believe consumer protection authorties of all governments around the world should take these tech giants to court over such un-practical and unjustified decision which renders such expensive devices practically useless in terms of usability. Which takes away the freedom of the consumer in the modern day and age of expansion.
Also such devices should be advertised clearly saying "Warning : No support for storage expansion" because many of those who bought devices such as the Nexus 6P and Samsung S6 and S6 edge where unaware of the lack of MicroSD support. Microsoft and Lumia lost market in countries like Sri Lanka because of this exact reason.
Chirantha Amerasinghe,
Moratuwa, Sri Lanka
A GB of data for $2usd is fairly cheap compares to prices in the US. True there are a few people with unlimited plans, but most people pay between $10-15usd per GB for overage charges. At $2usd per GB, 20GB would cost $40usd. While, a single phone plan (with AT&T) with 15GB of data is $100usd. If you then factor in $10usd per GB for 5GB of overages, you're paying $150usd for 20gb of data. That does include unlimited talk and text, but its still outrageous in comparison to paying $40usd for 20GB of data. I'm sure you can get all the talk and text you want for much less than $110usd.
While I agree expandable storage has its advantages, I've had nexus devices ever since the Galaxy Nexus. I've never missed having an sdcard, and if you utilize wireless, its really not a big deal at all.
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A GB of data for $2usd is fairly cheap compares to prices in the US. True there are a few people with unlimited plans, but most people pay between $10-15usd per GB for overage charges. At $2usd per GB, 20GB would cost $40usd. While, a single phone plan (with AT&T) with 15GB of data is $100usd. If you then factor in $10usd per GB for 5GB of overages, you're paying $150usd for 20gb of data. That does include unlimited talk and text, but its still outrageous in comparison to paying $40usd for 20GB of data. I'm sure you can get all the talk and text you want for much less than $110usd.
While I agree expandable storage has its advantages, I've had nexus devices ever since the Galaxy Nexus. I've never missed having an sdcard, and if you utilize wireless, its really not a big deal at all.
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2USD per GB of data in a country that has average yearly income of 1000USD per person (84USD per month). And if what you say is true, Cloud Storage as a alternative to External SD card isn't exactly sweet for anyone in the world.
I think he means ISP's charge 2usd per GB...
not wireless
chirantha7777 said:
TO ALL INTERNATIONAL MEDIA,
As a person living in a third world country let me express my deepest objection to the path tech giants are taking with regard to the removal of the MicroSD card. The explanations given for such removal are baby talk from companies who make their living off the consumer. Their sole purpose of doing such is that they get a chance to earn more by forcing the consumer to buy their extremely expensive internal storage. Companies such as Google also wish to make money off cloud storage plus they wish make internet service providers even richer because in countries like Sri Lanka a GB of data costs the user 2USD. Which makes cloud storage practically useless. Its clear that with the removal of the MicroSD card companies such as Google and Samsung have a win win situation and would be also praised by ISP's maybe even a underhand million dollar commission to those who made the decision not to have a MicroSD card. I believe consumer protection authorties of all governments around the world should take these tech giants to court over such un-practical and unjustified decision which renders such expensive devices practically useless in terms of usability. Which takes away the freedom of the consumer in the modern day and age of expansion.
Also such devices should be advertised clearly saying "Warning : No support for storage expansion" because many of those who bought devices such as the Nexus 6P and Samsung S6 and S6 edge where unaware of the lack of MicroSD support. Microsoft and Lumia lost market in countries like Sri Lanka because of this exact reason.
Chirantha Amerasinghe,
Moratuwa, Sri Lanka
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are you a troll?
with all the news surrounding the S6, S6e, S6e+, 6P, you didn't even see an article from all the tech sites in the world talking about the lack of ext storage support?
and you know these phones come with a min storage capacity of 32GB and all the way to 128GB?
What on earth can you load the phone with to take up the full capacity and consume it within a day?
You can simply exchange the data once you get your hands on your own PC.
Why is the phone unusable without ext storage? You mean my phone cannot boot up, make calls, send texts, play games, browse the web? That is strange because that's what I am doing everyday with my 6P.
IF you really want ext storage, go to USB-OTG.
You talk as if the world has ended.
My god.
Removal of SD Card is not a big issue for me as long as there is at least a 20 gb usable internal storage, cloud storage as an alternative is not a good choice in my country (struggle of slow internet connection).
Your at least 2 years late...
ahse0w said:
are you a troll?
with all the news surrounding the S6, S6e, S6e+, 6P, you didn't even see an article from all the tech sites in the world talking about the lack of ext storage support?
and you know these phones come with a min storage capacity of 32GB and all the way to 128GB?
What on earth can you load the phone with to take up the full capacity and consume it within a day?
You can simply exchange the data once you get your hands on your own PC.
Why is the phone unusable without ext storage? You mean my phone cannot boot up, make calls, send texts, play games, browse the web? That is strange because that's what I am doing everyday with my 6P.
IF you really want ext storage, go to USB-OTG.
You talk as if the world has ended.
My god.
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I know, and I have seen. But here is he deal, its just because companies want profits. To a time, companies where trying to bring devices that attract the user. Now it has gone the other way. Let me break down somethings for you.
A system cache on a phone uses 1-2GB
The Android OS uses around 4GB
A 16MP photo uses around 4MB. A user storing 500 photos would use 2GB of data
A 4k video uses around 300MB per minute. A average user storing 15 minutes of 4K video would use 4.39GB
A 1080p video uses around 115MB per minute. An average user storing 15 minutes of 1080p video would use 1725MB of data
An average MP3 file is 3.5MB. An average user storing 1000 songs would use 3500MB. A music geek (like me) would store 12GB of music.
An App like Facebook would use 400MB of storage data.
WhatsApp data from two years of use would be around 300MB
A music video would use 35MB's of space. A user having 50 music video's would use 1750MB's of space. A geek would have at least 5GB's
A high end Android game would use 1GB of data
Thumbnail Cache would be around 400MB on the busy user.
I have around 80 Apps installed (by me), I'm using 9.55GB if data on my S5.
Bare in mind that most of these are minimum figures. Compared to actual on most people. I hope you'll understand why for most people, not having a external SD card is a big issue. Also one more thing. External SD on a Card Reader is more convenient than the silly MTP transfer method on Samsung phones
So, should not have bought a nexus. Go buy a g4 or something else with a card slot instead. Nexus devices have been this way since the nexus one if I remember correctly. If you don't like what they're doing don't spend your money with such companies.
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I know, and I have seen. But here is he deal, its just because companies want profits. To a time, companies where trying to bring devices that attract the user. Now it has gone the other way. Let me break down somethings for you.
A system cache on a phone uses 1-2GB
The Android OS uses around 4GB
A 16MP photo uses around 4MB. A user storing 500 photos would use 2GB of data
A 4k video uses around 300MB per minute. A average user storing 15 minutes of 4K video would use 4.39GB
A 1080p video uses around 115MB per minute. An average user storing 15 minutes of 1080p video would use 1725MB of data
An average MP3 file is 3.5MB. An average user storing 1000 songs would use 3500MB. A music geek (like me) would store 12GB of music.
An App like Facebook would use 400MB of storage data.
WhatsApp data from two years of use would be around 300MB
A music video would use 35MB's of space. A user having 50 music video's would use 1750MB's of space. A geek would have at least 5GB's
A high end Android game would use 1GB of data
Thumbnail Cache would be around 400MB on the busy user.
I have around 80 Apps installed (by me), I'm using 9.55GB if data on my S5.
Bare in mind that most of these are minimum figures. Compared to actual on most people. I hope you'll understand why for most people, not having a external SD card is a big issue. Also one more thing. External SD on a Card Reader is more convenient than the silly MTP transfer method on Samsung phones
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it's not that new phones do not have SD card slots because they dont want to give you extra storage or doesnt want to use external sd cards, many people using SD cards do not use the correct ones which will affect the performance of the phone because some games/apps get stored in SD card when its available.
the fastest SD card you can get in the market still wont get to the speed of the internal memory you have in your phone and remember fast processor, fast ram will do nothing if your storage is slow....
Removal battery>SD card
Removable battery and sd card have zero significance to me. Cloud storage and cloud music ftw
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chirantha7777 said:
I know, and I have seen. But here is he deal, its just because companies want profits. To a time, companies where trying to bring devices that attract the user. Now it has gone the other way. Let me break down somethings for you.
A system cache on a phone uses 1-2GB
The Android OS uses around 4GB
A 16MP photo uses around 4MB. A user storing 500 photos would use 2GB of data
A 4k video uses around 300MB per minute. A average user storing 15 minutes of 4K video would use 4.39GB
A 1080p video uses around 115MB per minute. An average user storing 15 minutes of 1080p video would use 1725MB of data
An average MP3 file is 3.5MB. An average user storing 1000 songs would use 3500MB. A music geek (like me) would store 12GB of music.
An App like Facebook would use 400MB of storage data.
WhatsApp data from two years of use would be around 300MB
A music video would use 35MB's of space. A user having 50 music video's would use 1750MB's of space. A geek would have at least 5GB's
A high end Android game would use 1GB of data
Thumbnail Cache would be around 400MB on the busy user.
I have around 80 Apps installed (by me), I'm using 9.55GB if data on my S5.
Bare in mind that most of these are minimum figures. Compared to actual on most people. I hope you'll understand why for most people, not having a external SD card is a big issue. Also one more thing. External SD on a Card Reader is more convenient than the silly MTP transfer method on Samsung phones
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Maybe next year google will release a phone with 2TB of internal storage.
Really though, I consider my self to be a heavy user (especially music, I have a 250GB music collection and well over 300 digital copy blurays) and I still only opted for the 64gb. I would have to plug a external hard drive to my phone to store all of my music and video if I didn't use the cloud.
On the flip side, my mother bought into the whole SD card deal, she has a galaxy s4 with a 128GB SD card. She has used 150mb of the space on that card.
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Why would you by something before reading the specs? They didn't hide it.
Also, the 6P has Usb OTG out of the box, there are plenty of tiny usb-c thumb drives out there or you can use a Usb OTG cable and plug in just about any storage device.
Seems to me you are just being a drama queen.
128 Gb is plenty enough
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If you have not lived in a third world country then you do not understand where this gent is coming from. I have and I understand what he is saying
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If you have not lived in a third world country then you do not understand where this gent is coming from. I have and I understand what he is saying
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So users in areas with crappy cellular service shouldn't buy phones that lack microsd support...
While I'd much prefer external storage, my shiny new 128GB Nexus 6P really has no f*cks to give...
Since I got a Rav Power 15kmah backup, and a Nexus 6P with 128gb, the removable battery and storage is not an issue anymore.
Stuck on the fence between the two options. Storage space isn't as compelling to me as I already have an SD card for expanded storage.
What's everyone's thoughts? Worth the extra cost for 33% more RAM?
Save your $
with the price drops at best buy it was only 30 dollars difference so I opted to return the 128gb model and get the 256.
The biggest issue on an external memory is: to slow, not all things can moved on the SD Card. Internal less memory let lost the fun of the tablet. Thats my experience of the last years. About this one I move to the 256G part
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The biggest issue on an external memory is: to slow, not all things can moved on the SD Card. Internal less memory let lost the fun of the tablet. Thats my experience of the last years. About this one I move to the 256G part
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you need to buy cards marked U3, not U1 that guarantees minimum 30MB/s(240mbps) write speed. That's what I buy for shooting 4k 60ps drone footage which tops 120mbps. They are still not as fast as internal storage, but for movies and other data files they are great.
The card is only the half way. You can used the fastest card of the World, if the interface to the card id slow. The tranferrate to and from the SDCard ist one of the negative point of the galaxy tab S7 in the technical reviews (Could be better for this device)
You can compare this with a SSD on a SATA2 .The SSD could be faster , but the tx/rx rate from the hardware is not faster and brake the performance
abso-smurfly worth the cost if you do heavy video or into multitasking and using DEX. if you do lite email and occasional gaming, its not worth it. but im a power user and the extra 100 dollars was pocket change for me to gain that extra ram.
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The card is only the half way. You can used the fastest card of the World, if the interface to the card id slow. The tranferrate to and from the SDCard ist one of the negative point of the galaxy tab S7 in the technical reviews (Could be better for this device)
You can compare this with a SSD on a SATA2 .The SSD could be faster , but the tx/rx rate from the hardware is not faster and brake the performance
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well running benchmark U1 vs U3 I'm getting 90/70MBs(u3) vs 70/40MBs(u1). Which is close to the quoted max rate on the card. Now that's nothing compared to internal storage which I'm guessing is true SSD which tests out at nearly 1GBs, which definitely makes the extra 128gb + 2 GB of RAM a great deal for 30 dollars.
Still the U3 card is a solid performance boost.
Thanks everyone for the input, appreciate it.
Considering the price difference isn't that much, I decided to go big.
One thing I'm a bit bummed about is that the 256GB model only has one color option - I realize it's just cosmetic but I would have liked the mystic silver option. I'm just limited to the black option.
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One thing I'm a bit bummed about is that the 256GB model only has one color option - I realize it's just cosmetic but I would have liked the mystic silver option. I'm just limited to the black option.
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Hm, what area of the world are you ordering from? Here in the US, the 256 GB model is available in silver. I have one, and it's also showing as available in Samsung's store.
In Germany the 256G version are in black, silver and bronze available
After a week, I'm glad I went with the upgrade. Ended up paying 700 even for the 7+ and got 50$ GC on the side and the speed of the internal storage is amazing. Add to that the extra RAM. I like Black
If you're asking about RAM - don't worry. 6 GB is plenty on the tablet. I was worried at first too but after having 6 tabs open on Chrome, YouTube vanced in picture-in-picture mode, and Microsoft Word open - there were no delays or lag. Ymmv, but I don't have any issues.
That being said, if the difference in price is about 30-50$ I'd consider it. The added RAM makes it more future proof and if you don't need a MicroSD card with the added base storage, then you come out on top since the external storage just isn't as fast.