T-Mobile Edge with ATT LTE - Galaxy S6 Edge Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

The T-Mobile Galaxy Edge worked great with ATT LTE, does anyone know if the T-Mobile S6 Edge is there same way? Would be awesome if someone who has the phone can confirm. The specs show the bands that would work on ATT LTE. Thanks in advance.

I'm waiting for my unlock code. I'll report as soon as I get it.

verks said:
I'm waiting for my unlock code. I'll report as soon as I get it.
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Thanks. Where did you get the unlock code from?

Cellunlocker.net.

Keeping an eye on the thread. Need to unlock mine too but don't know if there are any ways to unlock it yet. How much did cell unlocker ask to unlock the tmobile s6 edge?

Yeah I stopped by that site earlier and wanted to see if a code was available but I Don't have my s6 yet so I can't provide an inei. But definitely keep us posted if the unlock works. As soon as you guys confirm I'll order mine.

Question. Can't you just call your carrier and get the unlock code? Especially if you buy the phone off contract? I know I did that with my S5.

Fmstgun said:
Question. Can't you just call your carrier and get the unlock code? Especially if you buy the phone off contract? I know I did that with my S5.
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Not when you open a new line. You must to be with TMobile for 2 months in order to get the unlock code from them.

Missing bands 29 and 30
This may not matter for some of you, and others may already know, but I think it's worth pointing out that the T-Mobile variant is missing LTE bands 29 and 30.
Band 29 represents unpaired 700Mhz spectrum (for downlink), of which AT&T has a nationwide 5Mhz license. Once deployed via CA, it will improve AT&T's low-band LTE downlink capacity by 50%.
Band 30 represents paired 2300Mhz spectrum (WCS), of which AT&T has a nationwide 10x10 license. This will likely only be deployed in urban areas, but it will roughly double AT&T's current LTE capacity.
Both of these bands are being deployed this year.

brianbrain said:
This may not matter for some of you, and others may already know, but I think it's worth pointing out that the T-Mobile variant is missing LTE bands 29 and 30.
Band 29 represents unpaired 700Mhz spectrum (for downlink), of which AT&T has a nationwide 5Mhz license. Once deployed via CA, it will improve AT&T's low-band LTE downlink capacity by 50%.
Band 30 represents paired 2300Mhz spectrum (WCS), of which AT&T has a nationwide 10x10 license. This will likely only be deployed in urban areas, but it will roughly double AT&T's current LTE capacity.
Both of these bands are being deployed this year.
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Good to know actually. Do you know if ATT version has these bands? Thanks

Yes att's variant does have band 29 and 30

vince2398 said:
Good to know actually. Do you know if ATT version has these bands? Thanks
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nunyabiziz is correct, the AT&T version supports both bands
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tigercranestyle said:
was definitely aware. essentially we would be getting the same lte coverage of an at&t galaxy s5. which is the coverage of... i dunno... 98 percent of at&t's lte phones. nevertheless, will report back when code is sent and service switched.
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Certainly a valid angle to look at things with - it's not like you're going to lose out on LTE coverage with these new bands. What you will be missing out on is LTE capacity/speed. Some areas have less of an issue than others, but where I work, my LTE speeds are terribly slow (lucky to get 1Mbps down - due to congestion, not signal strength), so I am very interested in making sure I have access to their capacity upgrades rolling out this year.
If you live and work in an area where LTE capacity/speed is not an issue, then I am jealous and also wish you the best with your T-Mobile model

For me the history of att locking down their samsung phones was the reason I decided to grab a T-Mobile edge. Part of the things I enjoy about owning android devices is the ability to tear it down and rebuild the os as I see fitting (aosp, cm, etc) losing out on a couple lte bands is totally worth it for the freedom.

I've just posted this in another thread, but think its relevant here too:
From the T-mobile website for the Galaxy S6 Edge:
Quad Band GSM;
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17;
UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850), Band VIII (900)
From the AT&T site for the Galaxy S6 Edge:
4G-LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 29 and 30
3G - UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
So the AT&T version seems to cover more bases in terms of LTE coverage e.g. for those wanting LTE coverage in the UK too, the T-mobile version will work on 3 (3) and EE (3 and 7), whereas the AT&T version will work on 3 (3), EE (3 and 7), O2 (20) and Vodafone (20) [LTE bands shown in brackets]

Is T-Mobile allowing people to buy off contract?

Alaris said:
Is T-Mobile allowing people to buy off contract?
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You would have to buy it out right and pick the $50 plan. Then cancel once you get the phone.

verks said:
You would have to buy it out right and pick the $50 plan. Then cancel once you get the phone.
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They won't let you simply buy the phone for full retail price without an account, even AT&T will let you do that? That may be the dumbest thing I've heard in a very long while. What possible reason could they have for doing that? Seems like a good way to get far fewer sales.

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They won't let you simply buy the phone for full retail price without an account, even AT&T will let you do that? That may be the dumbest thing I've heard in a very long while. What possible reason could they have for doing that? Seems like a good way to get far fewer sales.
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They will not, unfortunately, at least not with preorders.
For those of you who are thinking of preordering the GS6 through T-Mobile and then immediately moving it over to AT&T, you may want to make sure you read the unlocking policy. The one item that is kind of a "gotchya" here is that you'll need to have the device activated with T-Mobile for 40 days before they will unlock it. If 40 days on T-Mobile is something you can tolerate, then have at it
T-Mobile's Device unlocking policy:
Device eligibility is determined as follows:
The device must be a T-Mobile device.
The device must not be reported as lost, stolen or blocked to T-Mobile.
The account associated with the device must be in good standing.
You have requested no more than 2 mobile device unlock codes per line of service in the last 12 months.
The device must satisfy all the Postpaid or Prepaid Unlocking terms outlined below.
Unlock Eligibility for Monthly Phones and tablets
The device must have been active on the T-Mobile network for at least 40 days on the requesting line.
If the device was financed using T-Mobile’s Equipment Installment Plan (EIP), then all payments must be satisfied and the device must be paid in full.
If the device is on an account that has are under a service contract term, then at least 18 consecutive monthly payments must have been made or the account was migrated to Simple Choice no contract rate plan.
If the device is associated with a canceled account, then the account balance must be zero.
T-Mobile may request proof of purchase or additional information in its discretion and certain other exceptions may apply.
Unlock Eligibility for Prepaid Phones and Tablets
The device has been active on the T-Mobile network for more than 1 year.
If the device has been active for less than 1 year, then the Prepaid account associated with the device must have had more than $25 in refills for basic phones or $100 in refills for smartphones or tablet since device first use date.
T-Mobile may request proof of purchase or additional information in its discretion and certain other exceptions may apply.

brianbrain said:
They will not, unfortunately, at least not with preorders.
For those of you who are thinking of preordering the GS6 through T-Mobile and then immediately moving it over to AT&T, you may want to make sure you read the unlocking policy. The one item that is kind of a "gotchya" here is that you'll need to have the device activated with T-Mobile for 40 days before they will unlock it. If 40 days on T-Mobile is something you can tolerate, then have at it
T-Mobile's Device unlocking policy:
Device eligibility is determined as follows:
The device must be a T-Mobile device.
The device must not be reported as lost, stolen or blocked to T-Mobile.
The account associated with the device must be in good standing.
You have requested no more than 2 mobile device unlock codes per line of service in the last 12 months.
The device must satisfy all the Postpaid or Prepaid Unlocking terms outlined below.
Unlock Eligibility for Monthly Phones and tablets
The device must have been active on the T-Mobile network for at least 40 days on the requesting line.
If the device was financed using T-Mobile’s Equipment Installment Plan (EIP), then all payments must be satisfied and the device must be paid in full.
If the device is on an account that has are under a service contract term, then at least 18 consecutive monthly payments must have been made or the account was migrated to Simple Choice no contract rate plan.
If the device is associated with a canceled account, then the account balance must be zero.
T-Mobile may request proof of purchase or additional information in its discretion and certain other exceptions may apply.
Unlock Eligibility for Prepaid Phones and Tablets
The device has been active on the T-Mobile network for more than 1 year.
If the device has been active for less than 1 year, then the Prepaid account associated with the device must have had more than $25 in refills for basic phones or $100 in refills for smartphones or tablet since device first use date.
T-Mobile may request proof of purchase or additional information in its discretion and certain other exceptions may apply.
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This is why AT&T and Verizon will likely always make more money. They understand that there is a lot of money in the pockets of people who don't hold accounts with them. Thats just smarter business. No such thing as a bad dollar. T-mobile needs to learn.

tigercranestyle said:
geez. within the first several posts of this thread someone already mentioned the workaround to t-mobile's 40 day unlocking policy.
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Just because someone mentioned a workaround that doesn't change how utterly ridiculous, actually stupid, T-Mobile's policy is. And that work around while decent would be far better if you didn't have to sign up for any sort of T-Mobile service to still be able to purchase the phone. The problem is not the unlocking. That, until disproven, has been solved. The problem is all of the unnecessary BS you have to deal with in order to even buy the damn phone in the first place. Because of it I'll likely just get an AT&T one root be damned.

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Unlock to use on any carrier?

The Dev forum has a neat tutorial to unlock your phone through Htcdev.com.
Noob question: does this mean you can use an AT&T One with T-mobile and foreign carriers?
Also, the AT&T One includes all the LTE bands covered by the T-mobile One. AT&T also includes most HSPA bands covered by T-mobile One.
Does this mean AT&T One can use HSPA and LTE on T-mobile?
Source:androidcentral.com/htc-one-us-radio-frequencies
eethan said:
The Dev forum has a neat tutorial to unlock your phone through Htcdev.com.
Noob question: does this mean you can use an AT&T One with T-mobile and foreign carriers?
Also, the AT&T One includes all the LTE bands covered by the T-mobile One. AT&T also includes most HSPA bands covered by T-mobile One.
Does this mean AT&T One can use HSPA and LTE on T-mobile?
Source:androidcentral.com/htc-one-us-radio-frequencies
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The unlock on htcdev is for the bootloader, not carrier unlock. To carrier unlock an AT&T phone you would need the unlock code from AT&T which they would give if you purchased the phone at full price (not sure why somebody would that when you could order the carrier unlocked version directly from HTC which would be bloat free; the only reason to do that would be the fact that you can get AT&T HTC one much faster than carrier unlocked from HTC/Letstalk)
You are right about the AT&T one and T-mobile both capable of LTE on both carriers. But both the AT&T and carrier unlocked phone from HTC lack the 1700 AWS HSPA T-mobile band, so those will get 3G/4G/HSPA only if you live in a T-mobile 1900mhz refarmed area (and speeds on that 1900 refarmed spectrum seem to vary from person to person or place to place)
I unlocked mine from a seller on eBay, $13. I got the code in less than 1 hour.
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veliksam said:
I unlocked mine from a seller on eBay, $13. I got the code in less than 1 hour.
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PM me the URL por favor. I got a Note 2 I want done.
muqali said:
PM me the URL por favor. I got a Note 2 I want done.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-UNLOCK-CODE-ONE-ONE-X-HTC-S-HTC-X-HTC-V-AT-T-USA-UK-EU-ASIA-ETC-/171027116054?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item27d202b016
This is for HTC but I'm pretty sure he can do Samsung.
muqali said:
PM me the URL por favor. I got a Note 2 I want done.
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You can unlock your Note 2 without root and without paying. You'll have to downgrade to 4.1.1 regardless because T-Mobile and other carriers put a block on 4.1.2 (I know this because I just got rid of my Note 2 and had to find all this out through a lot of searching. The unlock code I ordered was correct but wouldn't work until I downgraded.)
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jonathan3579 said:
You can unlock your Note 2 without root and without paying. You'll have to downgrade to 4.1.1 regardless because T-Mobile and other carriers put a block on 4.1.2 (I know this because I just got rid of my Note 2 and had to find all this out through a lot of searching. The unlock code I ordered was correct but wouldn't work until I downgraded.)
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Thanks..will help a lot..
Foas said:
Thanks..will help a lot..
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I'll post what to do in just a few. :thumbup: This works for S3 and possibly more.
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Dial the following keys *#197328640#
Main Menu > [1] UMTS > [1] Debug Screen > [8] Phone Control > [6] Network Lock > Options [3]Perso SHA256 OFF > (after choosing this option, wait about 30 seconds, then go back one step by pressing the Menu button then select Back, now you are in [6] Network Lock then choose [4] NW Lock NV Data INITIALLIZ. Wait for a minute then reboot your phone.
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If you want to go the route of paying for a code from Samsung, then follow this link with instructions.
http://www.cellunlocker.net/blog/samsung-galaxy-note-2-unlocking-issue/
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If you paid the full price for this phone, you can just call Tmobile and they'll give you an unlock code.
Pr20 said:
The unlock on htcdev is for the bootloader, not carrier unlock. To carrier unlock an AT&T phone you would need the unlock code from AT&T which they would give if you purchased the phone at full price (not sure why somebody would that when you could order the carrier unlocked version directly from HTC which would be bloat free; the only reason to do that would be the fact that you can get AT&T HTC one much faster than carrier unlocked from HTC/Letstalk)
You are right about the AT&T one and T-mobile both capable of LTE on both carriers. But both the AT&T and carrier unlocked phone from HTC lack the 1700 AWS HSPA T-mobile band, so those will get 3G/4G/HSPA only if you live in a T-mobile 1900mhz refarmed area (and speeds on that 1900 refarmed spectrum seem to vary from person to person or place to place)
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Don't forget that voice goes over AWS *exclusively* via UMTS/HSPA in markets that either have no 1900 licenses or very bad 1900 coverage.
It pisses me off that they are *STILL* splitting bands between carriers... It really wouldn't take that much to make a universal GSM phone... Tha being said, it *may* be possible to unlock the AWS frequency in the future - that is, if all the internals are the same between the devices. It wouldn't surprise me if it is gimped like the T-Mobile S3 got gimped in terms of LTE support.
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Don't forget that voice goes over AWS *exclusively* via UMTS/HSPA in markets that either have no 1900 licenses or very bad 1900 coverage.
It pisses me off that they are *STILL* splitting bands between carriers... It really wouldn't take that much to make a universal GSM phone... Tha being said, it *may* be possible to unlock the AWS frequency in the future - that is, if all the internals are the same between the devices. It wouldn't surprise me if it is gimped like the T-Mobile S3 got gimped in terms of LTE support.
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Of course it's not hard, especially with current gen basebands, to support a full range of UMTS frequencies. Network operators get OEMs to restrict bands to make buying their subsidized phones less desirable to other operators, i.e. it makes it harder for someone to move from AT&T to T-Mobile. This is an easy business decision for the operators and OEMs don't seem to care much, since I doubt many consumers even know that they should expect their GSM phone from AT&T to work on another GSM network. I remember some people on twitter earlier aptly likening it to DRM--its only purpose is to make their customers' lives more difficult. The fact that Google has supported pentaband UMTS on the Nexus 4/7 and Galaxy Nexus is a great reason to love them, but I digress.
As for granting UMTS over AWS to the AT&T One, it seems pretty unlikely. It's already been shown to be not as simple as a radio flash, and I haven't heard of anyone successfully adding new bands to MDM9x15 devices the way they did with earlier basebands like on US GS2 variants. It's possible that there is some obscure configuration point in our firmware somewhere that will enable such support--and I'm sure there are people out there digging--but I'm not holding my breath, personally.
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Of course it's not hard, especially with current gen basebands, to support a full range of UMTS frequencies. Network operators get OEMs to restrict bands to make buying their subsidized phones less desirable to other operators, i.e. it makes it harder for someone to move from AT&T to T-Mobile. This is an easy business decision for the operators and OEMs don't seem to care much, since I doubt many consumers even know that they should expect their GSM phone from AT&T to work on another GSM network. I remember some people on twitter earlier aptly likening it to DRM--its only purpose is to make their customers' lives more difficult. The fact that Google has supported pentaband UMTS on the Nexus 4/7 and Galaxy Nexus is a great reason to love them, but I digress.
As for granting UMTS over AWS to the AT&T One, it seems pretty unlikely. It's already been shown to be not as simple as a radio flash, and I haven't heard of anyone successfully adding new bands to MDM9x15 devices the way they did with earlier basebands like on US GS2 variants. It's possible that there is some obscure configuration point in our firmware somewhere that will enable such support--and I'm sure there are people out there digging--but I'm not holding my breath, personally.
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Oh I agree with you completely but stranger things have happened like at&t S3s having hidden AWS LTE support... all it takes to activate is a special ROM/radio/bootloader/recovery set that T-Mobile made to test their LTE network... flashes right over the I747 via Odin and unlocks AWS HSPA and LTE. And the Nexus 4 AWS LTE hack too.
Its still annoying... I think we will start to see more compatibility coming up though for roaming revenue purposes... At least between at&t and T-Mobile. I guess we will see. I am waiting to see what comes of the mysterious LG D810 that is running the Snapdragon 800 before deciding on my next device but I'm almost 100% sure I will be passing the GS4 up though.
I thought you could not factory unlocked phones in the USA that were manufactured after Jan 26. 2013 unless the carrier unlocked them? Or is this over now because I'm getting my ONE today and was curious
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jshaw06 said:
I thought you could not factory unlocked phones in the USA that were manufactured after Jan 26. 2013 unless the carrier unlocked them? Or is this over now because I'm getting my ONE today and was curious
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The OP is talking about Bootloader unlock, you're talking about network unlock. It's not illegal to get network unlock if it is through your provider, I believe the whole no unlocking thing has more to do with 3rd party unlockers.
Anyways if the government told you that it's against the law to unlock your toilet so you could take a $hit, would you listen to them or would you just unlock the door and take a $hit anyways? I'll choose the latter thank you
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veliksam said:
Anyways if the government told you that it's against the law to unlock your toilet so you could take a $hit, would you listen to them or would you just unlock the door and take a $hit anyways? I'll choose the latter thank you
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SIM unlocking a phone is not a bodily function, so I don't think your example applies.
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stevedebi said:
SIM unlocking a phone is not a bodily function, so I don't think your example applies.
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I know the two actions are completely different. My point was that a law against unlocking your mobile device would be as stupid as not being allowed to perform a regular "bodily function". It's just a stupid law that was lobbied by the contract sucking mobile carriers. The actual phone manufacturers could care less. Another example is: if you buy a car and have it financed then being told you can't add custom wheels or exhaust system. That's a good example right?
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veliksam said:
I know the two actions are completely different. My point was that a law against unlocking your mobile device would be as stupid as not being allowed to perform a regular "bodily function". It's just a stupid law that was lobbied by the contract sucking mobile carriers. The actual phone manufacturers could care less. Another example is: if you buy a car and have it financed then being told you can't add custom wheels or exhaust system. That's a good example right?
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Look, I don't particularly like the rule, but if I need my phone unlocked tmobile will provide a code. The carriers subsidize the phones, even tmo through their zero interest loans. So from their perspective it makes sense.
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stevedebi said:
Look, I don't particularly like the rule, but if I need my phone unlocked tmobile will provide a code. The carriers subsidize the phones, even tmo through their zero interest loans. So from their perspective it makes sense.
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T-Mobile isn't subsidizing AT ALL now, you pay full retail for any device. They should *HAVE* to provide unlock codes right off the bat.
And they do -
Devices Purchased at Full Retail Price
If you paid full retail price for an eligible device:
T-Mobile will provide the SIM unlock code as long as:
Your T-Mobile account is in good standing; and
The device has been completely paid for (you must fax the proof of purchase to T-Mobile).
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T-Mobile isn't subsidizing AT ALL now, you pay full retail for any device. They should *HAVE* to provide unlock codes right off the bat.
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Devices Purchased at Full Retail Price
If you paid full retail price for an eligible device:
T-Mobile will provide the SIM unlock code as long as:
Your T-Mobile account is in good standing; and
The device has been completely paid for (you must fax the proof of purchase to T-Mobile).
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They are subsidizing the cost of the loan. The unlock is only available if you have paid the phone off.
They are charging zero percent interest on a consumer item.
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Unlocked Gear S on any cellular carrier network? ATT version compatible with T Mob ?

I saw a couple of tech points in the other threads. I myself have purchased the Att variant and planning to set it up with T Mobile but as I said, someone pointed out that they have different cellular banding or something to that effect. This person went on to say even if we were to get the ATT Gear S version on T Mobile that speeds would probably only be 2G.
From the articles that I've read on the Gear S specs I haven't come across anything saying that Samsung has designed specific versions for each U.S. carrier.
I do not have the answer at this time whether or not full cross compatibility is built into the device or not. Purely going by what has been announced, again I do not think it has been modified to keep us from doing carrier jumps.
I will update when Tmobile gets their networks up and running for the Gear S. If anyone can clear this up with for sure information, please do so. Feel free to speculate but if you're not certain please say so. Thanks.
If I can't get full functionality on the TMobile network with my ATT purchased and unlocked Gear S, I guess I'll have to return it and pony up the extra $50 that TMobile charges and fully join that club. Guys it may not be worth the hassle. I'll have an update soon on how all this works out, however I'd like to welcome feedback on the issue.
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If I can't get full functionality on the TMobile network with my ATT purchased and unlocked Gear S, I guess I'll have to return it and pony up the extra $50 that TMobile charges and fully join that club. Guys it may not be worth the hassle. I'll have an update soon on how all this works out, however I'd like to welcome feedback on the issue.
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Im doing the same thing tomorrow.
You can go to Samsung.com to check out the official spec. There are 5 different carrier variants but only three listed so far: AT&T (SM-R750A), Verizon (SM-R750V) and Sprint (SM-R750P). The missing two are T-Mobile (SM-R750T) and US Cellular.
Each listed different supported network (CMDA vs GSM) and bands.
It has the Snapdragon 400 which supports a HUGE number of bands and supports a global mode for both CDMA and GSM.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/400
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/wearables/samsung-gear-s
Someone will figure out a way to get the device to work with them back and forth ... it may be through a rom or a command line. But if you aren't a tinkerer you'll probably want to go with the version of the watch for your preferred carrier.
Update: I did a search through the FCC and didn't see one with T-Mobile specific bands (1700/2100). Bad news though is that there definitely are two variants for CDMA AND GSM. Argh. I stand brutally corrected!

RS988 unlocked version, full network features? (VoLTE, wifi calling)

Supposed to have GSM+CDMA + LTE bands for the big 3 (Tmobile, Verizon, ATT : 2/4/5/12/13/17, pentaband 3G)
ATT likes to whitelist phones for LTE/HD Voice (if this phone isn't on their whitelist, you need to jump through hoops to get LTE access, and very difficult get HD Voice/VoLTE to work properly)
Sprint has some issues too(5X/6P doesn't have wifi calling on Sprint), and you kinda want 2xCA/3xCA no sprint, so pointless to talk about them
Verizon - they are required to allow band 13 devices if device passes technical certificate. (points to HTC One A9 and them cancelling Verizon VoLTE support)
T-mobile - They want devices to pass their VoLTE technical cert process. Otherwise they demand manufacturers to disable band 12 (due to concerns of no 911 if you only have band 12 LTE data, and phone doesn't drop to another carrier for 911). Similar issues with Wifi calling (Moto X Pure doesn't have wifi calling)
B&H lists phone to be release in April/May, can't find any FCC docs yet
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1239314-REG/lg_lgrs988_ausasv_g5_h850_32gb_smartphone.html
Under Q&A, Steve (staff at B&H) says there is band 12 VoLTE support, but do you trust him?
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-RS988-Silver-g5
LG actually has it on the website.
I still wouldn't trust B&H nor LG until someone has a RS988 model on hand to confirm it.
The "R" signifies LTE in Rural America, a joint effort between Verizon and various small CDMA operators to improve coverage. Basically, Verizon let these smaller operators set up shop on Band 13, in exchange for on-network roaming (both for Verizon customers on the LRA network, and LRA customers on Verizon's network). Some of these operators also have their own networks on other LTE bands, such as Bluegrass Cellular on Band 12 (in addition to Band 13), and some have roaming agreements with other carriers (Sprint). This is why the LRA model is chock full o' bands.
I wonder if the LRA model is bootloader unlockable like the T-Mobile model...
b&h said the phone is expected to be released by may 11th, i wander if anyone else is going to sale it?
xtermmin said:
Some of these operators also have their own networks on other LTE bands, such as Bluegrass Cellular on Band 12 (in addition to Band 13), and some have roaming agreements with other carriers (Sprint). This is why the LRA model is chock full o' bands.
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except that this model doesn't support Sprint (missing band 26/41)... oh well
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except that this model doesn't support Sprint (missing band 26/41)... oh well
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Bands 26 and 41 are only needed for tri-band LTE Plus / Spark connectivity. Band 25 (which this LRA model has) is Sprint's primary LTE band. I suspect that either one of the LRA carriers has its own Band 25 network, or has a roaming agreement with Sprint but only has roaming access to Band 25.
For Sprint customers, the bigger issue is whether Sprint will allow it on their network. I recall that when the Moto X Pure was first released, people had to request Sprint to add the device's IMEI to the approved device database in order to use it on Sprint. I suspect that reps won't as easily add another carrier's variant of the G5 to their approved database, when Sprint is selling its own model.
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The "R" signifies LTE in Rural America, a joint effort between Verizon and various small CDMA operators to improve coverage. Basically, Verizon let these smaller operators set up shop on Band 13, in exchange for on-network roaming (both for Verizon customers on the LRA network, and LRA customers on Verizon's network). Some of these operators also have their own networks on other LTE bands, such as Bluegrass Cellular on Band 12 (in addition to Band 13), and some have roaming agreements with other carriers (Sprint). This is why the LRA model is chock full o' bands.
I wonder if the LRA model is bootloader unlockable like the T-Mobile model...
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Thanks a bunch for this information
I knew for a while something was off with the R and figured it signified something else since the name is so drastically different than the other phones in this lineup.
I went to see the phone in person, it's pretty nice, I like the Titan color, the gold is too light
B&H bootloader
I emailed B&H last week with questions, one concerning bootloader; It took 5 days for an answer but a tech support guy named Adam replied that it was unlocked; I emailed him back, asking if he knew the difference between unlocked sims and bootloader and he replied back and confirmed he did and bootloader was unlocked; This info is likely unreliable but the fact B&H doesn't have a vested interest in carriers and this would give them an edge on sales, we can still have hope. I won't be able to buy one until May when their stock come in though
Wow, it's going to be available on Amazon starting May 1
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DJE22C2...olid=K5RKTG1CO0AE&coliid=I1T763APP0P7E3&psc=1
Guess others will be getting it as well.
Amazon now listed for rs988 G5
thanks for info - looks like the only difference is the color, both same price, free shipping - one more reason to hope LG will allow unlocking bootloader - we will now see how serious is their claim to be "developer friendly" from what I'm hearing lately doesn't seem like US models are included for bootloader unlocking but still hoping.
B&H is silver (last 2 letters of model I'm guessing)
Amazon is titan (dark gray)
also check out the lte bands to be sure they are supported by the carrier you intend to use (mostly look good but a few specialty bands aren't there - there is another xda link to that but I can't remember the thread
The good thing about Shipped and Sold by Amazon.com these devices go on sale quick. For example, the Xperia Z5 went on sale at $599.99 and in about two weeks fell to $539.99.
$600 on Sale would be a nice sweet spot for this phone.
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thanks for info - looks like the only difference is the color, both same price, free shipping - one more reason to hope LG will allow unlocking bootloader - we will now see how serious is their claim to be "developer friendly" from what I'm hearing lately doesn't seem like US models are included for bootloader unlocking but still hoping.
B&H is silver (last 2 letters of model I'm guessing)
Amazon is titan (dark gray)
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You can buy the Titan G5 from B&H, that's what I pre-ordered and it arrived yesterday. I'm using it on AT&T and everything seems to be working fine (no HD Voice, of course, but that's expected when using an unlocked device).
excellent, thanks - so it appears you can get both silver and titan from B&H (probably from Amazon also) Did you see if bootloader was locked (I figured it would be and the salesman who twice told me it was unlocked and that he knew what the bootloader meant, was yanking my chain....
There is an option to OEM Unlock in the developers settings. How to verify bootloader is unlocked?
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sm partition disk:179,0 private worked to make the SD adoptable - migrated data, all looks fine.
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adb reboot bootloader doesn't put it into fastboot mode, adb reboot recovery gives the dead droid logo
The bootloader question would better be answered by the Guru's as it was first thought that the T-Mobile variant was unlocked but turned out not to actually be truly unlocked - I suspect it will be the same as the T-Mobile version - unlockable but not actually unlocked (If LG gives us the codes) I have sent several emails to LG concerning this and basically told them that, if they are truly "developer friendly" now is the time to prove it.... (diplomatically of course) I fear that the idea of modular phones won't take off if they keep the software locked down and don't follow through with the promises.
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You can buy the Titan G5 from B&H, that's what I pre-ordered and it arrived yesterday. I'm using it on AT&T and everything seems to be working fine (no HD Voice, of course, but that's expected when using an unlocked device).
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So did you get my issue with the phone like the reviewers point out? Also did you get headphones in the box?
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So did you get my issue with the phone like the reviewers point out? Also did you get headphones in the box?
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No headphones in the box, just the QuickCharge 3.0 charger and cable. What issue are you referring to?
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No headphones in the box, just the QuickCharge 3.0 charger and cable. What issue are you referring to?
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Awe I was expecting headphones oh well. Issues like screen warp,light bleed , and chin alignment.
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Awe I was expecting headphones oh well. Issues like screen warp,light bleed , and chin alignment.
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I bought this from B&H and I'm not sure about the light bleed (I consider it a fringe issue), but the chin alignment is pretty good and the screen warp is still an issue
Anyone have any luck with getting volte to work on tmobile i have been trying and not having any luck

Cricket vs Simple Mobile

Sick of paying an arm and leg with Sprint for their crappy data service and even crappier customer service. Was wondering what you guys thought about these 2 "budget" alternatives to big 4 companies. I live in NYC if that is important. I'm leaning towards Simple Mobile because it's a little cheaper.
Also, a very inportant point for me is being able to ROOT my phone. How does it work when you are one of these providers? For example if I had a S6 connected to Simple Mobile can i just use the Tmobile or ATT root method for the S6? This is a point that I don't know anything about.
Do you mean Simple Choice?
The nice thing with Simple Choice is that you can choose which provider to use; with an unlocked GSM phone you can go with either AT&T or T-Mobile. T-Mo has rolled out band 12 700MHz in NYC, so you should get good service through them, and of course AT&T is going to be pretty good too.
Cricket is owned by AT&T. MetroPCS is T-Mobile's. Both will likely give you better data plan options than Simple Choice, but will likely cost more as well. If you need truly unlimited high-speed, MetroPCS is the way to go. Cricket as "unlimited" as well, but after you reach a point (depends on your plan) they drop you to 2G speeds. MetroPCS does the same with their lower plans, but they do have the unlimited high-speed one.
I can't speak as to rooting a Galaxy S6, but it won't matter with the providers. As long as it's carrier unlocked, GSM, and has the appropriate LTE bands (an S6 from either AT&T or T-Mobile will have both companies' bands). Both will have plenty of bloat, AT&T probably moreso. Root has no bearing on functionality, and as long as you don't tell them you're rooted, they won't know (or likely care). Take for example the Nexus 4. It has band 4 LTE built-in, but it's disabled. There's a hack to enable it though, and we've been using it for years. If ever there was a "red flag" that their customers were using rooted phones, the Nexus 4 would be it, yet nobody's ever had their service cut off for using a rooted device (technically you don't have to root to do this hack, but those that know of it are the ones that root regardless). Just don't mention that you're rooted if you have to call customer service or something.

Sonim XP8 On Verizon

Okay, guys, I feel like I am getting jerked around by Sonim on this one. I want a rugged cell phone. Yes, I know that I can get many different phones and put them in an Otterbox. However, with FirstNet coming, I would love to get the Sonim XP8, unlock it from its AT&T bondage, and use it on Verizon until the A Fee & Fee network is robust enough in rural areas for me to switch.
Would a Sonim XP8 work on Verizon Wireless?
https://sonimtech.com/xp8/
https://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/...sm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/
VERIZON CDMA 0, 1 850, 1900 2, 4, 5, 13 1900, 1700/2100, 850, 700
CARRIER NETWORK 3G BANDS 3G FREQUENCIES 4G LTE BANDS 4G LTE FREQUENCIES
VERIZON CDMA 0, 1 850, 1900 2, 4, 5, 13 1900, 1700/2100, 850, 700
The above makes it look like it would, but I just want to make sure.
Also, I did contact Sonim direct and received this response from them:
"Dear Jxx,
Thank you for contacting Sonim, the XP8 if unlocked will not work on Verizons network, The software is at the base installed locked with ATT software, if you tried uploading Verizons on the device it can brick the phone.
Thanks and Regards,
Axxxxx
Customer Experience Center Agent
Sonim Technologies, Inc.
(w): 888.858.9460"
While I suppose it is certainly possible that some software can brick a phone, all I would do is insert a Verizon SIM card. Now maybe Sonim is giving their CSRs that script, but it sounds like bull to me.
What do you guys think? Considering that this appears to have the appropriate bands/frequencies for Verizon, I suppose they don't want customers using it on Verizon until they have some sort of agreement in place with Verizon.
Someone with an unlocked Sonim XP8 tried an activate Verizon SIM card in it. It worked for data, but not voice. Then, when he disabled data, it made voice calls just fine. Can anybody offer any help on how to make it work with voice while LTE in enabled?
Sonim now sells the unlocked XP8 directly from their webpage. Expensive as hell though. Factory unlocked is nice, although rooting the damned thing is eluding me.
You can try here.
https://apn.gishan.net/en/apn/verizon/sonim-xp8
I have Tmobile so it won't help me at all.
Thanks for the tip, Phuhque. When I go here https://sonimtech.com/xp8/ I only see this:
The Details
Features
Specifications
Where to Buy
Downloads
Where to Buy
AT&T — Available now
Bell Canada — Available now
Rogers — Available now
Sasktel — Available now
SouthernLinc — Available now
Sprint — Available now
Telus — Available now
Can you post a URL where I can buy it? How much is it?
Okay, I did find it here. https://store.sonimtech.com/products/sonim-xp8-blk-nam And, yes, I agree, $ 799.99 USD is too expensive. They still list it as GSM only, too.
Thanks for the tip, Phuhque. When I go here https://sonimtech.com/xp8/ I only see this:
The Details
Features
Specifications
Where to Buy
Downloads
Where to Buy
AT&T — Available now
Bell Canada — Available now
Rogers — Available now
Sasktel — Available now
SouthernLinc — Available now
Sprint — Available now
Telus — Available now
Can you post a URL where I can buy it? How much is it?
I know that is what they said. Supposedly this phone supports a good suite of frequencies. They may have them disabled, or the hardware may be different, of that I have no answer. I purchased one and immediately put a glass screen protector on it. It feels like you are holding a brick. For my mitts, it is very comfortable. Since it is listed as an enterprise phone, support for it should go 5 years. I will be glad when someone comes out with a process for rooting it. Factory Unlock and the 3 year comprehensive warranty is awesome. Good luck with verizon.

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