Hi all, I originally rooted my phone using this post several months ag http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
I'm still fairly new to the dealings of root, and have found that I only used it to have access to a couple of cool apps that required root and at that rate I don't even use any more. That being said, I finally accepted the most recent update being okay that I would likely loose my root access. The update kept failing, I assumed because of the root. I backed up my personal data, and performed a factory reset from the phone. The phone still has superuser from the reset and still fails to update. Could someone help me return my phone to fully stock configuration? Thanks!
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Hi all, I originally rooted my phone using this post several months ag http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380325
I'm still fairly new to the dealings of root, and have found that I only used it to have access to a couple of cool apps that required root and at that rate I don't even use any more. That being said, I finally accepted the most recent update being okay that I would likely loose my root access. The update kept failing, I assumed because of the root. I backed up my personal data, and performed a factory reset from the phone. The phone still has superuser from the reset and still fails to update. Could someone help me return my phone to fully stock configuration? Thanks!
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Find out what odin is. Then..
Google "odin emergency tar (your build number here)" or something to that effect.
If you don't know your build number then you have some more research to do. Good luck.
I'd recommend using the Verizon update assistant. Much easier, but takes about half an hour to do:
1) Connect phone to PC using USB cord
2) When prompted for what action to take when this device is connected, select Verizon update assistant. Installation will take a few minutes.
3) Start the update assistant and confirm that you want to update the phone. The update will take a few minutes.
When the update is complete, you should have the most current update (MK2), and no root access. Should you need root again, try Saferoot - it's quick and easy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction guys, I'll do some more research into both and report back soon.
Help! I've researched odin, downloaded and attempted to flash the stock image. Odin failed. My phone as of now is stuck in the downloading screen.
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Help! I've researched odin, downloaded and attempted to flash the stock image. Odin failed. My phone as of now is stuck in the downloading screen.
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You need to flash the same stock image as what was previously on your phone.
If you don't know what version you were on previously, flash MJ7 or MK2.
Hello. I have done quite a bit of searching, just can't find a similar enough post to tag on some questions. Sorry if this has been asked...but I did look over a month of posts, and google searching.
I have a Note 3 from September, rooted in October...not sure how I got it done...but I jumped the gun and unrooted it with SU thinking I would be able to OTA to 4.4.2. Nope!
So, I am stuck on 4.3.
My big question is how can I get to 4.4.2 with OUT starting over on the phone.
I guess this is a backup question. I have some settings turned on that indicate that a back up is going somewhere, but I can't confirm, and I don't know what all is backed up.
Pictures are backed up, but I would hate to lose them. They are on SD card anyway...so I realize I could take the card out, but something I read suggested I might lose even the micro-simm card contents. Not sure how that would be possible.
But what about things like Quick Notes, and S Note, and Contacts, and all of my apps that I have installed, and settings for those apps.
When I rooted back in October, it worked with out disrupting anything.
How can I get that to happen now WITH an upgrade to 4.4.2 AND getting it rerooted?
If I can't upgrade with out wiping it clean, I am probably going to stay put. So, then what is the best way to root to get "Wifi Tether Router" back working...as it is the only thing I need the phone rooted for.
Finally, what is the difference between NC5 and NC5D. I saw a recent post of somebody else asking it...but none of the replies gave an answer.
Thanks for any feedback.
I don't know if this will help, but you can give it a try. First, you might want to consider that you are where most of us are trying to get back to ( i.e. 4.3 with no KNOX !!! ). Ok, I would go to Samsung Firmware, and download the latest version of 4.4.2 NC5 to your PC. I would backup that copy of 4.3 on your device to your sdcard then if have an ext sdcard copy it there, or copy that backup to your pc. Most of your Pics and data should be in that backup, that you can copy back later with a file explorer like Root Explorer. Now do a factory wipe. Then take the NC5 zip you got from sammie and extract it to a file on your desktop this will change it to a .tar file. Find a copy of Odin v1.85 don't use the 3.09 version on the Samsung website if possible. Cool, reboot your device into download mode, start odin, plug in your device to your PC. Now, load that extracted file on your desktop into PDA odin, and click start. It will take minute to read Md5 then start installing. You will lose root and recovery !!! Your new bootloader will have KNOX 0x0. So, you will have to start over with the root process, but isn't that half the FUN !!! Chainfires v1.94 supersu will root NC5. As for the difference between NC5 and NC5D, It is my understanding they are the same. The D stands for a version of NC5 that was used by Samsung employees ( i.e. programmers and developers ) in the development of NC5. :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Lokerd, I see you have read my response. Great!!! I would add the you can root 4.4.2 NC5 several ways. As I said above Chainfires v1.94 SuperSu, and One click autoroot, and Towelroot for 4.4.2. All should root your device without tripping KNOX. However, as soon as you flash a new custom recovery like TWRP or Philz CWM ( my favorite ) it will trip KNOX. If you are out of warranty no biggie, besides you need a custom recovery if you want to get back to your 4.3 backup. ( By the way remember you need the same recovery (i.e. TWRP or CWM ) that you made the 4.3 backup with, now on NC5 just a newer version. This will make it easier to recover the 4.3 backup later. They say the most popular recoveries will recover each others backups, but that is rarely the case.
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First, you might want to consider that you are where most of us are trying to get back to ( i.e. 4.3 with no KNOX !!! ).
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Thanks for taking the time to reply! And to reply with such a nice well though out steps.
So...I should NOT being trying to upgrade? I can do that...just reroot and be done with this. I really don't want to risk having to lose info I have put on the phone, etc. A few new features is not going to be worth it. But, reading about improved 4g and wifi performance. Wifi calling is not important to me. But it would be nice to have the camera on the lock screen...but I bet I could find something that would do that the rooted phone I had.
So, let me ask this. If I do not care about KNOX, is the process you outlined above any easier?
Thanks!
Drew
lokerd said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply! And to reply with such a nice well though out steps.
So...I should NOT being trying to upgrade? I can do that...just reroot and be done with this. I really don't want to risk having to lose info I have put on the phone, etc. A few new features is not going to be worth it. But, reading about improved 4g and wifi performance. Wifi calling is not important to me. But it would be nice to have the camera on the lock screen...but I bet I could find something that would do that the rooted phone I had.
So, let me ask this. If I do not care about KNOX, is the process you outlined above any easier?
Thanks!
Drew
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Well, if you are out of warranty, and you don't care about KNOX go ahead and upgrade. But, consider this: One, so where clear the only reason for the 4.3 backup is to get to your pics and data at a later time. Here is a link about trying to go back http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630514 Once you install 4.4.2 NC5 ( this will include a new kernel, bootloader, baseband, and OS ) you CANNOT go to back to 4.3. If you try to install the 4.3 backup after you have upgraded to NC5 you will soft brick your phone. Then, there's KNOX what is KNOX, KNOX is security software written by the NSA for Samsung. Now I'm not saying its spyware, but Samsung is !!! You can go to Samsung's website and all the info about KNOX you need is there.
To answer your last question, no. You have to go through all the motions.
If it was me, knowing what I know now. I would stay at 4.3, install an engineering bootloader (read up on bootloaders they are not forgiving if you mess up ) then try to upgrade basebands. Here is a link for NAB engineering bootloader which should be 4.3, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655674 Here is the link for a NC5 baseband, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701837 I believe this will improve your 4G lte.
Last, what I'm running. I run Note 3 "Sprint" 4.4.2 NC5 ( no choice bought the device new with that OS, voided my warranty the second day I owned it ). Rooted with Philz CWM recovery ( hltespr v 6.12.9 ) KNOX disabled and removed. I definitely like 4.4.2 NC5 a lot better than 4.3 my daughters Note 3 had 4.3 before I upgraded to 4.4.2 and rooted it. Here is my XDA website http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770729 so if you do upgrade this is a good place to start.
Ok. Sorry for more noob questions.
Ok, the only thing I want to ensure is that I don't lose things like S Note, Action Memo, Contacts, Pictures, apps installed. I just don't want to redo everything. Basically, I just want to upgrade the operating system and have everything up and running like it was...just new OS. Is that possible? I understand what you are saying about not being able to use the back up. I guess I just don't understand if I can upgrade this phone with out having to start back over with everything.
I am not out of warranty (purchased October 2013), but I don't see that it would be a problem. I normally don't break or drop my phone...although I did drop it and picked up a nick a few weeks ago. It was unusual circumstances. Point is...I guess I will worry about warranty issues if that comes up. On the other hand, the home button is a getting a little finicky, so I avoid it...using swipe down, and a notification toggle to go to Home whenever possible.
I don't understand the difference between bootloader vs. flashing vs. upgrading basebands vs. rooting as opposed to those other things. it doesn't help that there are multiple ways to do each of the above.
I think I am in over myhead.
Can you help me figure out what I had done before...as it was working pretty good. I Rooted it to get root access, but not sure how I did it. It was easy, and it didn't erase anything. I think I simply used Odin. Attached is a screenshot of a folder of stuff that I might have used. Can you tell what root method I used?
I think I am just going to go back to what I had...and still with 4.3. I actually looked at my wife's identical phone that is on 4.4.2 and other than wifi calling, I don't see the camera on lock screen, so I don't really think I should be messing with stuff I can't wrap my mind around trying to get to 4.4.2.
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Ok. Sorry for more noob questions.
Ok, the only thing I want to ensure is that I don't lose things like S Note, Action Memo, Contacts, Pictures, apps installed. I just don't want to redo everything. Basically, I just want to upgrade the operating system and have everything up and running like it was...just new OS. Is that possible? I understand what you are saying about not being able to use the back up. I guess I just don't understand if I can upgrade this phone with out having to start back over with everything.
I am not out of warranty (purchased October 2013), but I don't see that it would be a problem. I normally don't break or drop my phone...although I did drop it and picked up a nick a few weeks ago. It was unusual circumstances. Point is...I guess I will worry about warranty issues if that comes up. On the other hand, the home button is a getting a little finicky, so I avoid it...using swipe down, and a notification toggle to go to Home whenever possible.
I don't understand the difference between bootloader vs. flashing vs. upgrading basebands vs. rooting as opposed to those other things. it doesn't help that there are multiple ways to do each of the above.
I think I am in over myhead.
Can you help me figure out what I had done before...as it was working pretty good. I Rooted it to get root access, but not sure how I did it. It was easy, and it didn't erase anything. I think I simply used Odin. Attached is a screenshot of a folder of stuff that I might have used. Can you tell what root method I used?
I think I am just going to go back to what I had...and still with 4.3. I actually looked at my wife's identical phone that is on 4.4.2 and other than wifi calling, I don't see the camera on lock screen, so I don't really think I should be messing with stuff I can't wrap my mind around trying to get to 4.4.2.
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Cool, your version of 4.3 should be NAB and no KNOX. If this is the case then you should be able to root, and return back to stock, if you have say a hardware issue with your device and have to return it under warranty. So, according to your last post image on 10/24/2013 you used CF Autoroot, if you want to read up here is the link to that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
Now to get to the latest version of CF Autoroot you need to go to ChainFires ( CF ) repository here is the link http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/ just find the model of your phone and click on File to download. Put that file on your desktop, now go to your android downloads copy and paste Odin v1.85 to your desktop. Click on Odin extract, and open it, now click on PDA a box will open, now select desktop and click on CF Auotroot. It should come up in Odin next to PDA. Now boot your device into download mode, then connect to your PC. In the upper left hand box will light up COMM: with some number in green, blue, or yellow doesn't matter just telling you that a connection was made. Now click start on the bottom of Odin, sit back and watch the magic!
When it says pass your done. Now reboot your phone if doesn't do it by itself go to your app drawer and see if SuperSu is there. To install the Recovery just follow the same steps just substitute the recovery .tar file in place of CF Autroot. I see you have ChainFires v1.65 SuperSu the latest version is v2.01 here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053. If you use CF Autoroot it will probably install the latest version of SuperSu automatically.
I see on 10/25/2013 you downloaded CWM recovery for hltespr ( sprint ) here is the link for Philz CWM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596001 the latest version for sprint is 6.12.9 I don't use his unified all in one recovery version, I use the sprint version, but the choice is yours. :fingers-crossed:
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Cool, your version of 4.3 should be NAB and no KNOX.
Odin v1.85 to your desktop.
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Thanks for the continued help. Just about ready to reroot the thing.
So, you mention using 1.85...is that only because that is what I have? The latest CF-Auto-Root came with 3.07 but I had already downloaded 3.09 a couple of days ago trying to figure stuff out. I also saw a warning about using the latest Odin...but I think it applied to trying to do the Kindle Fire, which I determined was 3.3 and not able to be rooted with out a special cable, which I have ordered.
Anyway, does it matter if I use the 3.07 that came with the latest version of CF-A-R? Should I use 3.09? Or def stick with 1.85.
EDIT #5: I end up using 1.85 and the original Root, then the new ROOT. So, does it matter that I used the Root from October vs the newest one or older Odin vs. newer? I have it up now, so it is just a matter of tryingt o figure this out.
BTW, I thought I had bricked my phone...went back and read YOUR instruction again, and got it restarted. The instructions on the main CF-A-R thread do not make it very clear.
Thanks a bundle!
Great !!! It doesn't matter which version of Odin you use, as long as it gets the job done. As for CF Autoroot, after your done rooting and boot the device back up. It my take awhile but you will automatically be asked update your apps, and SuperSu will update binarys at that time.
Hey everyone. I decided I would unlock my bootloader and trip Knox about two days before towelroot came out. Yay.
I've since gotten the OPO, so I wasn't that concerned. I wanted to give the phone to my mom who lives in another state, so I Odin'ed back to what I believe is the most current OEM firmware available (NK2) because I want my mom to be able to get updates OTA and not have to worry about troubleshooting her phone as much as if it were a custom ROM, or a phone with root.
Unfortunately, checking for a system update says the system is modified (ROM is all stock though) and device status is custom. I also discovered while testing the phone (it had been sitting in a drawer for months) that the microphone isn't working very well. I tried different sims, calling different people on different networks, I'm sure it's hardware problem. Is there any way to re-enable the OTAs? I'd like to get this hardware problem warrantied. The knox tripping didn't destroy the mic, so please no judgement here. I'm also not comfortable in removing the glass to replace the mic. If the mic could be replaced without that step, I would simply do that.
Thank you.
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Hey everyone. I decided I would unlock my bootloader and trip Knox about two days before towelroot came out. Yay.
I've since gotten the OPO, so I wasn't that concerned. I wanted to give the phone to my mom who lives in another state, so I Odin'ed back to what I believe is the most current OEM firmware available (NK2) because I want my mom to be able to get updates OTA and not have to worry about troubleshooting her phone as much as if it were a custom ROM, or a phone with root.
Unfortunately, checking for a system update says the system is modified (ROM is all stock though) and device status is custom. I also discovered while testing the phone (it had been sitting in a drawer for months) that the microphone isn't working very well. I tried different sims, calling different people on different networks, I'm sure it's hardware problem. Is there any way to re-enable the OTAs? I'd like to get this hardware problem warrantied. The knox tripping didn't destroy the mic, so please no judgement here. I'm also not comfortable in removing the glass to replace the mic. If the mic could be replaced without that step, I would simply do that.
Thank you.
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Hmm. Last time I Odined back to stock, using the tar file of the firmware version that came before NK2, my device was totally fine to receive OTA, despite Knox being tripped. Try removing root first, then Odin stock NK2, then factory reset.
Hm, so I now need to install SuperSU in order to use the un rooting function? I would've thought a full stock image file would've eliminated root...
EDIT - Simple Root checker says SuperSU is not installed BUT terminal app "does Rooted".
Installed SuperSU, but binary is not installed, so it doesn't run. WTH? What happened to the good old days of just flashing stock images and not worrying about it anymore?
SOLVED
I looked at the slightly outdated stock collection thread, flashed the NG4 stock image, then was able to take the OTA update to NK2. Went ahead and told T-Mobile the whole problem and they really only seemed to care if there was physical damage or water damage (which there is not).
Just leaving this here for future searches. How do I get this thread closed?
I've had my VZ S4 since sometime around Dec of 2013. Previously was on a DroidX, I've really honestly never had any problems rooting or installing custom rom's on my phones (A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU HERE that made that possible) so I'm not a noob...but I'm not an expert either. I usually wait and read a lot of threads, follow the instructions and I've always been good to go. My S4 started at MK2, (took the OTA right out of the box, now I now better ) and with the help of K1mu's post on rooting the S4 with Saferoot everything went off with out a hitch (thank you!!). After successfully rooting the phone, I installed Safestrap, backed up the stock rom slot, created a custom rom slot and installed Hyperdrive 11...everything is working flawlessly.
So fast forward a year to KitKat I returned to XDA...read and read and read and followed the Dev's instructions and was good to go again. I know it involved Safestrap-I545-3.75-KitKat-A03.apk, TowelRoot, Odin and ALL_VZW_I545VRUFNC5_I545VZWFNC5_1151670_REV06_user_low_ship_Multi_Cert_Tar.md5. Definitely was one of muniz_ri post. Any way I basically used Odin...flashed back to factory stock followed muniz_ri post and was good to go again with KitKat(Thank You!!)
So now to the present, about a week or so ago I had an OTA screen pop asking to update, it actually showed 2 updates available (don't know if there is a log in the S4 that keeps track of the updates). So I came back here of course and started reading and reading and reading...and I was ready to begin the process in this thread by muniz_ri: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i545oc1-5-0-1-keeproot-t3096558 which again I am sure would have went flawlessly. Then I had an accident...I had been dismissing the update (it popped up a lot ) when the unthinkable happened...I pressed yes, the phone went thru the update process and I don't know what update it was but it wasn't Lolllipop...so I was like phewwww, clicked on my RootCheck (JRummy) and it said Rooted 4.4.2 KitKat (NK4), SuperSu 2.46 so I figured everything was ok. Not so, I don't know what the upgrade was but I no longer have root or access to safestrap, SuperSu or any apps that require root...and this is where I need guidance from the masters. I have a TWRP/Safestrap back up (stock-2014-12-08--19-33-37 KOT49H.I545VRUFNK1) from right after rooting for KitKat, nothing else...just root I'm pretty sure of that. So what would be the best way to fix? Is there a way to re-root the phone in it's present condition? Can I use the TWRP back up some how with out SafeStrap? How far back can I down grade with Odin using a VWZ factory image? Any idea what happened with the update prior to Lollipop? Sorry if this was long winded, just trying to figure out the best way moving forward. I don't really care about the data on the phone. Before going forward I'll do A Keis back up of the stuff I want to save. I appreciate any help/answers/suggestions...Jinx
Hello! Sorry for my panic and sense of urgency, but I'm currently away for school and my lease is ending at the end of the month and I have no way to contact my parents, real estate agents, movers, or anything now. All I have is my phone and computer, and I haven't renewed my internet for the month so it should be shut off any day now as well.
But I was running Lollipop (OC1) and rooted my phone the other day with the terrible KingRoot. I attempted to use this app that was supposed to remove KingRoot and replace it with SuperUser but it only removed KingRoot - nothing else. So I lost root access, but still had all the KingRoot crap on my phone. Today a Verizon update appeared on my phone and I clicked install - I didn't think anything of it because it wasn't a major OS upgrade, just a small patch. Plus I thought it'd help remove KingRoot. Uh oh. I was wrong.
I installed the update, it went into recovery and then attempted to install. next thing I know all I see is a black screen. I tried pulling the battery and rebooting it, but I can't get passed the Samsung logo - it just goes to a black screen (but I believe it's still on, draining battery). If I try to boot into recovery it INSTANTLY starts auto-installing this update, which it of course always fails to do and gives me an error message.
My brother said I need to use 'ADB' but he's busy and can't email me much more information. I'm entirely lost, panicked, and scared! I need my phone working soon. I'm assuming theres no way to 'fix' my phone - so I'm just going to have to suck it up and realize I lost everything (man I wish I saved a lot of people I was texting as contacts *face palm*). What can I do now?
P.S. If I need to install a new ROM or whatnot over this, then can I do so with a pre-rooted Lollipop ROM? That way I don't have to risk using KingRoot ever- ever again. NOTE I NEED ROOT FOR WiFi TETHER! My internet is being shut off very soon, so to get by in the meantime I planned on using my phone and its tether.
No... You need internet access..
BUT... If you backed up everything to the external SD, then you can regain contacts..
Otherwise, Any attempt to fix it won't do anything...
ADB won't work on this phone either...
What you need to do is download a program called Odin, and a OC1 stock tar... That will recover your phone, but you will lose all contacts unless you had the Verizon contact thing...
I had the exact same experience as you yesterday... I had to put my phone in Download mode and start fresh with the Verizon Software Update Assistant. All I really cared about was my pictures, and they were on the external SD card. The other response about using ODIN to go back to OC1 works just as well... Best of luck!
Odin is your friend
Don't panic. You're contacts and other media of a similar nature are usually backed up regularly enough if you don't mess with the default sync settings of your stock rom. We can all agree Kingroot is a terrible way to root because of it's unnecessarily bloated bundle that it installs along with its super user app. To get your phone working you need to 'Odin' back to stock and from there you can root and install a custom rom. However your choices are very finite because of the new SELinux enforcing files on the OC1 build for the Verizon bootloader.
Step 1) Download Odin here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...08-2013-odin-3-09-odin-1-85-versions-t2189539
Step 2) Download the stock OC1 Build ROM for the SCH-I545 (Verizon Galaxy S4) here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/development/odin-5-0-1-lollipop-oc1-t3174850
Step 3) Once the download has finished (use DownloadThemAll add-on in FireFox to boost download speed) load the tar.md5 file into Odin
using the AP button.
Step 4) Put your phone into download mode and plug it into your computer. Make sure the cables aren't loose and click start in Odin.
Step 5) Wait for the phone to reboot and for the com-slot in Odin to turn green (will say "PASS!!" when complete).
If you use KingRoot to root the phone then I suggest googling how to replace KingRoot with SuperSu and following the tutorial W0lfdroids website here ---> http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html