I don’t know the tech, but i think s-pen is a capacitive pen, right? Cant we add support for it in our custom roms?
No one knows this?
There are quite a few S-Pen like devices available for S2 and even other touch screen devices. Check the videos on youtube. For example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4xleEK30_I
Yes but the s-pen is controlled by software, have you seen it? it is not a normal stylus.
and by the way I need a stylus with an accurate end, because all the stylus I know are with a huge rounded thing at the end to simulate the finger touch, and not to act like a pen
I was very curious about this, it looks like it works great on the galaxy note particularly because it has a fine tip rather than the thick ones
I was curious to see if anyone has tried it on their prime or on another tablet and if it works well or not cuz im really interested in getting one if it does?
i dont know about samsung s-pen, but htc ST C400 almost dosn't work on prime ^(
fifasarajevo said:
I was very curious about this, it looks like it works great on the galaxy note particularly because it has a fine tip rather than the thick ones
I was curious to see if anyone has tried it on their prime or on another tablet and if it works well or not cuz im really interested in getting one if it does?
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Of course it doesn't work. Different technologies, the galaxy note uses a wacom digitizer which is pressure sensitive and compactive thus it can us a fine point stylus. While the TFP uses a now standard compactive digitizer it can only use those fat point stylus. But since the TFP's digitizer is made by atmel, Atmel themselves said they were going to release a stylus called maxstylus which is a fine point stylus and is compatible with atmels digitizer.
I was wondering if the "wacom technology" is a software thing or real hardware parts (like on the wacom tablets)
as far as i know the wacom pens send the info to the surface, the surface itself doesn't recognise pressure. If "just" software reads out the capacative infos shouldn't it be possible to get the drivers and drawing software from the note onto the prime?
I'm just thinking out loud here, i have no hard information. but I am very interested, if a port would somehow be possible ^^
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A Wacom digitizer is a combination of hardware and software technology that exists both in the tablet and the stylus. The sensors in the tablet screens are sensitive to the nibs of digitizer pens.
The Amtel MaxStylus has already been confirmed to not work on the TF201. The chip that is in the TF201 would only support the pen on a 7" screen or smaller.
Wow, that's disappointing.
Will the Prime ever get some stylus love?
BUYMECAR said:
Wow, that's disappointing.
Will the Prime ever get some stylus love?
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Take a look at the accessories forum for the TF201...there are recommendations for capacitive styli that may work for you.
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Take a look at the accessories forum for the TF201...there are recommendations for capacitive styli that may work for you.
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I use a Amazon capacitive, less accuracy but works, Samsung isn't a normal stylus that's why they named it "S Pen"
anyone know if the galaxy note stylus would work on the amaze? or just another phone in general? or do you think its somehow "programmed" or made to work just with the note. was looking at stylus and every one of them are huge lol, like incipios and others. I think it would be cool to use it for some apps.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe phones/displays that use a stylus utilize a different kind of display, and the note I believe is like dou hybrid or something.
I am pretty sure a stylus will be useless on the amaze...unless the tip was heated? lol
I think stylus screens are based on pressure sensors in the display and the more common ones we use the sensors in the display are heat based...or something.
freakboy13 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe phones/displays that use a stylus utilize a different kind of display, and the note I believe is like dou hybrid or something.
I am pretty sure a stylus will be useless on the amaze...unless the tip was heated? lol
I think stylus screens are based on pressure sensors in the display and the more common ones we use the sensors in the display are heat based...or something.
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no, they make capacitive display stylus. look at the new galaxy tab, regular capacitive screen, with a stylus included. also look at the htc flyer, it has a stylus as well. its a special material they use on the tip. I actually have a pair of gloves that have the material that I can use in the winter with a capacitive screen. they just operate different. resistive stylus are used with pressure, and capacitive have a special material at the end that some how activates the screen as your finger would.
http://www.incipio.com/HTC-Amaze-4G-Cases-Accessories/HTC-Amaze-4G-Cases-Accessories.asp go here and youll see some capacitive stylus that are compatible with our phones but they are huge lol. that's why im interested in the notes stylus since its small. I think some apps would be fun with it, like sketchbook, etc.
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBpo7USR8I8 this is how it works
What's likely is that the stylus from these devices might work for detecting single touch events - but would not be pressure sensitive, as the phone doesn't have the special digitizer material to create the field that allows passive pressure sensitive pens (ie, look at wacom) to work. So, in other words, why bother?
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What's likely is that the stylus from these devices might work for detecting single touch events - but would not be pressure sensitive, as the phone doesn't have the special digitizer material to create the field that allows passive pressure sensitive pens (ie, look at wacom) to work. So, in other words, why bother?
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try drawing a image or words or anything in general with the sketchbook and then you tell me. some other apps would be more fun/interesting with a stylus imo. also with grease and what not, when texting its okay or just swiping around but when using apps like angry birds it would be more fun to use a stylus I think.
Capacitive stylus vs. Active Digitizer
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no, they make capacitive display stylus. look at the new galaxy tab, regular capacitive screen, with a stylus included. also look at the htc flyer, it has a stylus as well. its a special material they use on the tip. I actually have a pair of gloves that have the material that I can use in the winter with a capacitive screen. they just operate different. resistive stylus are used with pressure, and capacitive have a special material at the end that some how activates the screen as your finger would.
(link) go here and youll see some capacitive stylus that are compatible with our phones but they are huge lol. that's why im interested in the notes stylus since its small. I think some apps would be fun with it, like sketchbook, etc.
edit: (link) this is how it works
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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That is correct, you can immediately tell it is not a capactive stylus by trying to press the capacitive buttons and not getting a response.
Why not just got to Best Buy / ATT and try it out to be sure
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Why not just got to Best Buy / ATT and try it out to be sure
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look up a town called rolla in Missouri and you will see why lol. closest best buy is over a hour away
Vikingpus said:
This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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what exactly does it use? that was my main question pretty much, if they would work or not cause I wasn't sure if they were like a regular capacitive stylus or just something custom made. the capacitive stylus are too big to even be called a stylus
stratax said:
look up a town called rolla in Missouri and you will see why lol. closest best buy is over a hour away
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Dont need to look it up, Im an STL guy myself.
Road trip
Tell you what, I have a BB right next to my work, Ill try and run over there tomorrow and check it out
dude i saw one on cvs, it suppost to work with all touch phones it cost $10 bucks thats why i didnt buy it. but it would be nice to use to play "draw something''
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what exactly does it use? that was my main question pretty much, if they would work or not cause I wasn't sure if they were like a regular capacitive stylus or just something custom made. the capacitive stylus are too big to even be called a stylus
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I think it is called electromagnetic ressonance. When you press down the tip of the s-pen it generates a magnet field or something which is registered by the phone, or something like that. In the first s-pen i had, the tip got stuck, so it would register input even when not touching the screen.
from wikipedia:
Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.
mikeschevelle said:
Dont need to look it up, Im an STL guy myself.
Road trip
Tell you what, I have a BB right next to my work, Ill try and run over there tomorrow and check it out
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haha nice!
gypsy214 said:
dude i saw one on cvs, it suppost to work with all touch phones it cost $10 bucks thats why i didnt buy it. but it would be nice to use to play "draw something''
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exactly, it would be fun to use with some apps but not everything lol. just like sketchbook or angry birds or draw me. since its hard as hell with your finger
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I think it is called electromagnetic ressonance. When you press down the tip of the s-pen it generates a magnet field or something which is registered by the phone, or something like that. In the first s-pen i had, the tip got stuck, so it would register input even when not touching the screen.
from wikipedia:
Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.
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well then wouldnt it work on all touch screens then? since all capacitive touch screens respond to static/heat, or does it give off a different type? im confused how samsung made the note lol, its interesting
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My Galaxy Note stylus doesn't work on Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab 7.7
Not even the input response. I figure they will work minus the pressure sensitivity but i was wrong. You need an active digitizer layer
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My Galaxy Note stylus doesn't work on Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab 7.7
Not even the input response. I figure they will work minus the pressure sensitivity but i was wrong. You need an active digitizer layer
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so the note has a special layer made for the stylus? thats cool
stylus for the note didnt work on my amaze
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stylus for the note didnt work on my amaze
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thats a shame, oh well the screen on this phone really isnt that big any ways. i could see using one on the one x or something. i think the new lg vu also has a custom stylus for it hmm
I'm hoping to use the galaxy tab s7 spen on my note 20 ultra as I find it to be much better to grip than the small note 20 ultra spen, does anyone know how I would be able to charge the s7 spen, if I don't actually own the tab s7 tablet? I have a tab s6 so not sure if it can charge on the tab s6?. Also does the spen work on any other android phone or tablet?
I can confirm that standard wireless charging does not charge the s Pen. As a matter of fact, there is no battery in the Tab 7+ s Pen. It's simply an induction coil that operates from a low power charging strip on the back of the tablet. The Tab 7+ stylus uses a wireless connection to the Tab 7+, where as the Note 20 Ultra uses capacitive touch.
I own both devices and have been unable to cross the stylus' between the two, since they use different technologies.
I have no experience with aftermarket, but if you want full size, I think you might be stuck looking for something like this:
Stylus Capacitive and Resistive Pen Touch Compact Lightweight
2 in 1 Capacitive stylus and resistive hard tip stylus combination. IMPORTANT NOTE: This is NOT a replacement for your phone's original built-in internal stylus. It is for separate use and a generic stylus. It is NOT an S-Pen. Will NOT fit to your phone's internal stylus slot if your phone has...
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I can confirm that standard wireless charging does not charge the s Pen. As a matter of fact, there is no battery in the Tab 7+ s Pen. It's simply an induction coil that operates from a low power charging strip on the back of the tablet. The Tab 7+ stylus uses a wireless connection to the Tab 7+, where as the Note 20 Ultra uses capacitive touch.
I own both devices and have been unable to cross the stylus' between the two, since they use different technologies.
I have no experience with aftermarket, but if you want full size, I think you might be stuck looking for something like this:
Stylus Capacitive and Resistive Pen Touch Compact Lightweight
2 in 1 Capacitive stylus and resistive hard tip stylus combination. IMPORTANT NOTE: This is NOT a replacement for your phone's original built-in internal stylus. It is for separate use and a generic stylus. It is NOT an S-Pen. Will NOT fit to your phone's internal stylus slot if your phone has...
uzid.com
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ummmm. ... the note 20 spen uses inductive wacom tech like all spens(at least for now). Capacitive stylus are the ones that work on all touch screens(like your finger). My s7+ spen works perfectly fine on my note and vice versa. What you are probably having issue with crossing stylus is on the note and on the s7 you need to remove the pen from it's holder to let the phone/tab know there is an spen it should look for, either that or you got an aftermarket capacitive pen that looks like an s-pen.
to the OP as far as I know you cannot use any other device for charging the s-pen.
jeromekobriger said:
I can confirm that standard wireless charging does not charge the s Pen. As a matter of fact, there is no battery in the Tab 7+ s Pen. It's simply an induction coil that operates from a low power charging strip on the back of the tablet. The Tab 7+ stylus uses a wireless connection to the Tab 7+, where as the Note 20 Ultra uses capacitive touch.
I own both devices and have been unable to cross the stylus' between the two, since they use different technologies.
I have no experience with aftermarket, but if you want full size, I think you might be stuck looking for something like this:
Stylus Capacitive and Resistive Pen Touch Compact Lightweight
2 in 1 Capacitive stylus and resistive hard tip stylus combination. IMPORTANT NOTE: This is NOT a replacement for your phone's original built-in internal stylus. It is for separate use and a generic stylus. It is NOT an S-Pen. Will NOT fit to your phone's internal stylus slot if your phone has...
uzid.com
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I have the Note20 Ultra and the tab S7+ and able to use both pens viceversa. Just make sure you have the option enabled in the spen settings that allows multiple spens. Can use the pen of the tab on the Note while the pen is still inside the phone.
So stuck my s-pen on the fridge and kinda lost it for a month. It was moved by accedenty too the side that normally isn't looked at. Now it will not charge at all.
camoway said:
So stuck my s-pen on the fridge and kinda lost it for a month. It was moved by accedenty too the side that normally isn't looked at. Now it will not charge at all.
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They do that. Try resetting it and playing with it a couple times. The deep freeze didn't hurt it.
Not sure what reinitalizes it. I didn't use mine for 2 months and it behaved the same way. Wouldn't show or take a charge then after a couple days of playing with it, it started working again. It been fine for over a year now.
Try a reboot. Reset it.
Try a hard reboot. Reset it.
Try clearing the system cache. Reset it.
Try clearing it's data. Reboot
You get the idea... it just wants some wuv
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ummmm. ... the note 20 spen uses inductive wacom tech like all spens(at least for now). Capacitive stylus are the ones that work on all touch screens(like your finger). My s7+ spen works perfectly fine on my note and vice versa. What you are probably having issue with crossing stylus is on the note and on the s7 you need to remove the pen from it's holder to let the phone/tab know there is an spen it should look for, either that or you got an aftermarket capacitive pen that looks like an s-pen.
to the OP as far as I know you cannot use any other device for charging the s-pen.
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Supposedly, you can have multiple S Pens linked to one phone/tablet. I got my Tab S7 to work on my Note 10+ 5G like you said.
The S Pen setting is: Settings -> Advanced features -> S Pen -> Allow multiple S Pens (Let other S Pens write on the screen while your S Pen's inserted into your phone. This may drain your battery.)
Once you toggle that on, restart your phone and it works without you having to take out the S Pen.
I have my old Tab S3 S-pen I use on my note 10+ and now also on the Tab S7+...the Tab S7 pen works on my note 10, did not tried vice versa as the little note 10 pen is just an emergency solution for me.