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As far as I can find, I have not seen this issue come up for anyone else. I recently jumped in with the temp root to clean up the bloat and to de-sense. Process went great and everything that I attempted to freeze is froze.
To my dismay, the last two days (since I performed the clean up) my battery life has taken a severe turn for the worse. With screen off I'm losing about 10% an hour, which is way more than before. I used to easily get a day at the office, but now a morning is a lot to ask.
I've checked the usual suspects, and have gone as far as uninstalling any new apps that I've installed since the root. All to no improvement.
I suppose my next step is to re-bloat to see if that brings me back to where I was. But before I go that far, has anyone seen or heard of this problem? If I'm the only one, I suspect my cause and effect is off. I fully expected this to help the ol' battery... But its been the opposite.
I have the exact same problem, I am going to factory reset mine as soon as I have time to set everything up again.
My battery life has literally dropped in half.
~John
Bummer, exactly what I was trying to avoid. Oh well, that's the risk we take I guess.
With all the memory and speed this phone has there is no reason to freeze anything. I can live with bloatware until I get s-off.
When you go freezing apps you alter the way the phone operates. You could have frozen something that the system needed to operate using less
Power. Now your phone works harder and uses a lot more power. This phone is faster and smoother than any rooted phone I ever owned.
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jbh00jh said:
With all the memory and speed this phone has there is no reason to freeze anything. I can live with bloatware until I get s-off.
When you go freezing apps you alter the way the phone operates. You could have frozen something that the system needed to operate usiing less
Power. Now your phone works harder and uses a lot more power. This phone is faster and smoother than any rooted phone I ever owned.
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True statement. One of the reasons I have not updated my temp root script to include de-sensing is because every time I try it it runs like crap. Seems like it just struggles looking for things the framework expects to be there.
Ah, the voice of reason! You are right, I was tottaly content until I started f'n around with the insides. Ill unfreeze it all tonight and keep my fingers crossed that I don't end up needing to reset.
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Ah, the voice of reason! You are right, I was tottaly content until I started f'n around with the insides. Ill unfreeze it all tonight and keep my fingers crossed that I don't end up needing to reset.
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Agreed... This phone is a beast with an OEM extended battery. I used %40 in 14 hours with my standard usage, which includes about 30 mins worth of calls, receiving emails and texting.
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+1, i'm very satisfied with the stock battery on daily use.
When I travel, I throw in the extended battery and I'm watching an entire season of Arrested Development, no problem :x
I haven't desensed, and I only froze some of the bloatware, like the friendstream, nfl mobile...etc. that were in the app's folder, just to keep it clean, but I've learned I just crowd it up again as soon as I start downloading apps No task killers either, just use the one that shipped with it to kill some lingering apps now and then.
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True statement. One of the reasons I have not updated my temp root script to include de-sensing is because every time I try it it runs like crap. Seems like it just struggles looking for things the framework expects to be there.
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I was actually using your tool... appreciate your work on that, it's flawless as far as I can tell. Was going to thank you over on the development board but being an XDA noob I was not allowed!
I thawed everything out and will see tomorrow if I'm back to where I should be. If so, I may give your recommended list a try and see what that brings. I was really liking not having to see all that crapware everywhere I turned.
That is the reason I didn't use the de-sense option. I only froze some of the bloat that i really didn't use. I was afraid that if I de-sensed, it would cause more problems than it fixed.
I started a thread where I gave a long list of freezeable apps, it's linked in one of the stickies in the dev section, and I have left them all frozen. Something like 30 apps frozen. I have NOT de sensed though. I lose 1-2% an hour while idle, though the first 10% from 100 to 90 lasts much longer (complete opposite of my old Dinc which would drop the first 10% in ten mins!)
Well, I bit the bullet and factory reset tonight. We'll see how my battery fares tomorrow.
I had ADWLauncher installed before with a theme and custom icons etc. I left all that out this time.
I do like Sense quite a bit (I love the widgets) so I'm sticking with that for now.
I have two extended batteries I bought with the phone and originally my battery life was outstanding. I could stream audio all day at work (switching between iheart and Sirius) and still have battery life on my way home.
This is outstanding, no other phone I have owned could do that. Lately, my battery life is in the toilet however. I killed an extended battery in a half a day.
~John
jmorton10 said:
Well, I bit the bullet and factory reset tonight. We'll see how my battery fares tomorrow.
I had ADWLauncher installed before with a theme and custom icons etc. I left all that out this time.
I do like Sense quite a bit (I love the widgets) so I'm sticking with that for now.
I have two extended batteries I bought with the phone and originally my battery life was outstanding. I could stream audio all day at work (switching between iheart and Sirius) and still have battery life on my way home.
This is outstanding, no other phone I have owned could do that. Lately, my battery life is in the toilet however. I killed an extended battery in a half a day.
~John
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definitley looking forward to hearing about the results to the factory reset. i haven't had great battery life but i've also temp root and cleaned pretty soon after getting the phone, so i don't have too much to compare to.
jmorton10 said:
Well, I bit the bullet and factory reset tonight. We'll see how my battery fares tomorrow.
I had ADWLauncher installed before with a theme and custom icons etc. I left all that out this time.
I do like Sense quite a bit (I love the widgets) so I'm sticking with that for now.
I have two extended batteries I bought with the phone and originally my battery life was outstanding. I could stream audio all day at work (switching between iheart and Sirius) and still have battery life on my way home.
This is outstanding, no other phone I have owned could do that. Lately, my battery life is in the toilet however. I killed an extended battery in a half a day.
~John
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Let us know how it goes, I'll do the same. I used my freeze script to thaw it all out... hopefully I can leave this thing on my desk for a couple hours tomorrow so I can get some good data on idle usage. Fingers crossed it goes back to the way it was.
I have actually been using Go since day one. I never really tried sense, but it drives me nuts not having a dock bar... I think we can all admit the bar at the bottom is a waste of space. Anyway, I played with it a little tonight and it seems super smooth with good looking widgets (as you mentioned). I may have to get it all set up sometime and see if I can get over my dock bar hang-up.
I had the same battery problem as you and I have yet to even temp root my phone(I run Windows 8 Dev Preview, drivers are unsupported). I don't even play games on my phone and had the same issue. It isn't a root/bloat/de-sense issue.
AtL, that battery chart looks painful. Read the issues list if you haven't already... Some folks have reported battery life like that and ended up trading in and getting one that behaved a little better.
As for my issue, after half a day it looks like thawing everything out was the ticket. This chart vs the one in the OP clearly shows a much slower idle draw. I think I'm back to only charging once a day.
So let that be a lesson to everyone... Be careful of what you think you don't want.
The factory reset seems to have helped some, but it's still not back to where it used too be. I have been streaming iheart all day on 4g using an extended battery. I got probably 6 hours out of the 1st battery & I'm down to 80% on the 2nd battery now.
I think the 4g network may be partly to blame in that I think my higher battery useage started almost exactly when the national 4g outage occured.
~John
a-jive said:
AtL, that battery chart looks painful. Read the issues list if you haven't already... Some folks have reported battery life like that and ended up trading in and getting one that behaved a little better.
As for my issue, after half a day it looks like thawing everything out was the ticket. This chart vs the one in the OP clearly shows a much slower idle draw. I think I'm back to only charging once a day.
So let that be a lesson to everyone... Be careful of what you think you don't want.
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I have been here a while bud. I was just posting to show that I had the same issue while NOT using Temp Root or anything you had used in your experience of the problem. This has only happened to me 1 time.
Debloated with no issues
If you know what your doing and have exp with this debloating / desensing will have only positives on your battery. Im pretty sure that horrid battery life had nothing to do with debloating. And as the OP stated it only proved mild imrpovements aftyer hard reset. Unlikely debloat caused that.
Took phone off charger this AM
would explain why when I had the rezound, the battery life started out great, then get beyond terrible.
Hi all,
Got my 920 a few days ago, and while it's a beautiful phone, I'm finding the battery life to be awful.
I've only installed a few apps on it, otherwise it's vanilla. With WiFi and GPS off and only moderate Internet usage (mostly Facebook and IM+) i get a max of 10 hours out of it.
My Galaxy Note easily does twice that with the same usage.
Is there anything I need to check/look for, are there apps that show what's chewing through my battery so much?
I love the phone but that sort of battery life means it can never replace my Note as my main phone.
Thanks!
I should add, it's running the Portico update. No crashes or random reboots that I've seen.
I have only had mine for a few days, but I have found with all WP8 devices (and I have tried most) a hard reset made a difference to battery life. Annoying, but true it seems, well, true for me. I have no idea if it is a placebo but might be worth trying if you can be bothered.
For your info, I am getting good battery life on my 920.
You need to discharge and recharge the battery a few times before the battery life gets better. In about a week you should find the battery life improves.
It was the same for WP7 too..... The software will calibrate the battery over time.
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I have only had mine for a few days, but I have found with all WP8 devices (and I have tried most) a hard reset made a difference to battery life. Annoying, but true it seems, well, true for me. I have no idea if it is a placebo but might be worth trying if you can be bothered.
For your info, I am getting good battery life on my 920.
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I actually did a hard reset when I first got the phone home, out of habit really. I don't mind doing it again, but maybe I'll give the battery a few more days and see what happens.
Also check your background apps.
it'll get better
when I first got my lumia 920 the battery life was shorter than my old NL 900.. but after a week or so and after I did a deep cycle now the battery will easily last for 48 hours... in battery settings it usually shows 4-5 days :good:
battery life is hit or miss, some days you'll get wonderful battery life and others its horrible, I know that its hard to measure battery life because you just cant replicate the exact same usage everyday. I find it hard to believe that the galaxy s3 (basically the same hardware) has better battery life, battery is only 100 maH more.
I honestly believe its a operating system/ application issue, I believe that there are some applications that are cycling and wasting precious juice from the battery. better coded apps/ better OS control will really be a big deal in the next os upgrade.
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battery life is hit or miss, some days you'll get wonderful battery life and others its horrible, I know that its hard to measure battery life because you just cant replicate the exact same usage everyday. I find it hard to believe that the galaxy s3 (basically the same hardware) has better battery life, battery is only 100 maH more.
I honestly believe its a operating system/ application issue, I believe that there are some applications that are cycling and wasting precious juice from the battery. better coded apps/ better OS control will really be a big deal in the next os upgrade.
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I've found turning off background tasks which are not required makes a big difference on the battery. Each time I install a new app, I look at the background tasks and see that it doesn't get added. Only tasks I have running are weather and a news reader app.
Also, I will not allow location on apps that don't need to. Searching for location when an app opens also drains a battery somewhat.
That being said, with my use, I easily get 2+ days (48+ hrs) of battery life.
May be it have to be synced
In my opinion, one reason why this phone need the run in for the battery life is in the first few days it need to be synced with many clouds, facebook, facebook photo, nokia drive....etc. As this will make poor the battery life in the first run in. But after one week everything done, the battery life becomes better. Just guess.
I've also noticed that with bluetooth turned off I get substantial more life out of the battery(but I tend to forget to turn it on when getting in my car, then I dont get calls on my cars bluetooth). I agree with disabling push and do a manual poll on your email servers, I dont have facebook or any of that stuff on the phone. Im mainly on twitter and on my email.
from time to time I see the Location services running when I unlock the phone, I've disabled the location service on bing search but that still comes up from time to time. Like I mentioned before I think the OS has tons of pros and like any other OS in its "early stages"(I say this because windows mobile has been out for some time pre iOS and Android, but it will get better over time as the company realizes main stream OS are getting replaced as the go to home PC.
My experience with Nokia Phones is they need 1 or 2 weeks to get the full battery life....
The first 4-5 days they really have a horrible battery live.. But as I said it's getting better after 1-2 weeks...
BTW I'm really impressed with the battery life of my HTC 8S, I'm getting 2-3 days out of it with heavy usage...
My Lumia 920 achieves a little bit more than 1 day..
I've had the phone since it was released(when it really bad battery problems), I was going to go with the 8x but I really love the camera on the lumia 920.....
Ok for the past two days I've been using my phone with bluetooth off and i've been getting really good battery life, a friend of mine has a surface rt and he was having an issue with the battery depleting even when he left the device on sleep for hrs, he noticed that after disabling bluetooth the issue with the battery went away, this clearly points out an issue with the os and the handling of Bluetooth.
Surface RT and Lumia 920 have a totally different OS i don't think you can compare them that easy...
And it well known the Bluetooth deceases the battery life of every smartphone... It's the same with NFC (Tap&Send) and super sensitive touch or Wifi...
Just turn off the things you don't need...
My Samsung Note 10.1 tablet has no noticeable difference with Bluetooth on or off (that is, not actually using it, just having it enabled). It's using BT 4.0 which has very good power efficiency.
Any idea what revision of BT our Lumias have?
It also makes a difference if you switch your bluetooth on to be visible or not...
Ii is the same with Wifi you can activate to be notified when open networks are around... If you do so.. your wifi will use more power because it is constantly searching for new hotspots...
Well, it's been a few days & recharges, and it seems the battery is getting better.
Thanks for all the suggestions from everyone. I was severely disappointed with the initial battery life, and while it's getting better, I hope it keeps improving. Switching background data services such as push mail and chat makes sense when it comes to preserving battery of course, but so far from all the smartphones I've owned, this is the worst performing of all in terms of battery. I don't want to have to manually check mail or log in/out of chat, since that defeats the purpose of having a smartphone imho.
It's the only thing I have against the Lumia so far... even though WP8 is not as customisable as my Android phone, I certainly appreciate the design and how it works. I'll just keep crossing fingers for more battery conditioning
I think there is something like a help app from nokia on the phone...
You can disable the live tiles you don't use and the automatic xbox live sync service...
I wouldn't totally disable email sync... I just reduce the syncing interval...
If you have a lot of email accounts (maybe more) it even makes sense forwarding them all to a new email account and syncing all your emails
with this 1 account...
There are a lot of dirty little tricks to improve your battery life... Maybe every
single one don't make much difference... But all of them do...
With a lot of frustration, I have been experiencing high battery drain also, with the phone staying warm even while idle.
Following various comments, fixes, could be' on various forums, I hard reset my new, less than one week old, phone.
I was kind of annoyed, surprised it took a very long time to recover, with a picture of gears churning on the screen.
Finally it booted up with a message, reset or restore. Wasn't expecting the choice. I chose restore to see what's up.
There was an amazing amount of stuff to restore.
After restore completed, my phone was still having battery drain issues. I decided to check out what this back up and restore thing was.
Pardon me I never read the manual. No need to go into discussion of the process.
I then chose to disable back up and restore, soft reset, and boom. Battery usage is now at -2%/hr. instead of -12-20% idle.
Have any of you tried this?
First posted at: wpcentral
http://forums.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-920/201672-40.htm#post1888873
Has anyone else had battery drain issues with the Eclipse ROM on the Verizon Galaxy S4? I just came from an S3 on CyanogenMod I'd been using for a little over a year and I could still make it a whole day without having to charge it, but it seems like I can only make it half a day on the S4 before the battery gets low. So far I've:
-Used Titanium Backup to remove all bloatware listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797600
-Minimized screen brightness as much as possible
-Turned off all unnecessary functions (Gestures, AirView, etc)
-Turned on Power Saving Mode
-Replaced the original (used) Samsung battery with a brand new OEM battery (with no positive change in battery life)
I mostly use the device for email, web browsing, etc. and still find the battery draining faster than I think it should be (about 10% every 15-20 minutes during use). I do have Avast Antivirus and My Data Manager running, but they only contribute to about 2-3% of total battery usage. The display, on the other hand, is responsible for anywhere between 30-50% of the total battery usage. (I can post screenshots of my device's battery usage later, if necessary).
The S4 is on the NC5 bootloader (thus I used the Safestrap method to install Eclipse), if that makes a difference.
Im on eclipse nc5 and i actually get great battery thanks to xposed and greenify. Go install greenify, And grant it root access. Then any apps you dont need notifications immediately, select them to hibernate so they dont use as much battery. That should help, and with brightness. Use lux lite. It can make your screen as bright as 100% or as dark as -80%. I change it depending on my lighting, and it seems to work fine.
When you say you get great battery life, just how much are you getting out of it? I've got greenify installed, hibernated all apps I don't need notifications for, etc and I still average only about 4-5 hours of battery life. Surely the screen alone can't be draining the battery THAT fast?
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When you say you get great battery life, just how much are you getting out of it? I've got greenify installed, hibernated all apps I don't need notifications for, etc and I still average only about 4-5 hours of battery life. Surely the screen alone can't be draining the battery THAT fast?
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You may have wake lock issues with some of your apps Android Basics 101: Understanding Wakelocks: http://youtu.be/fG8tghj0AYM that is a very good and short video explaining what exactly a wake lock is and there is a good X posed module that will help you manage them.
"It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery." - Galatians 5:1
I'm no pro or anything but I do know that eclipse should definitely last at least a day. If greenify or freezing busy apps isn't doing it, then you have some other problem. If I were you, I would reinstall the eclipse rom, check the md5, and reflash it. Even preferably, I would do a clean restore of the s4... This is a ton of work but that means that anything wrong will be fixed, its the solve all solution.
*assuming you're not streaming videos constantly off 4g while running your gps in the background and having 10 emails pushing in a hot car . then u might have some bad battery life, just maybe.
I have basically the same setup, but I use One Power Guard as well. I also used Titanium Backup to freeze anything to do with Google since I use Aqua Mail and CalenGoo, neither of which need Google services. Mostly email, phone and texting. Probably much less use than you, but I get two days easy, One day I'll have to use just the phone for a day and see what happens.
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I'm no pro or anything but I do know that eclipse should definitely last at least a day. If greenify or freezing busy apps isn't doing it, then you have some other problem. If I were you, I would reinstall the eclipse rom, check the md5, and reflash it. Even preferably, I would do a clean restore of the s4... This is a ton of work but that means that anything wrong will be fixed, its the solve all solution.
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Sorry for the late reply, but I finally got around to doing a clean restore of the S4 followed by a reinstall of the eclipse rom (including redownloading the rom and checking the md5). A few days later and my device's battery life is still terrible. I know there's always the possibility that the brand new OEM battery I purchased a month or two ago could be a dud (I did buy it off eBay, knowing full well the risk I was taking). Any suggestions on where I could get a good battery for a reasonable price? Or can anyone think of anything else that might be draining the battery so fast?
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Sorry for the late reply, but I finally got around to doing a clean restore of the S4 followed by a reinstall of the eclipse rom (including redownloading the rom and checking the md5). A few days later and my device's battery life is still terrible. I know there's always the possibility that the brand new OEM battery I purchased a month or two ago could be a dud (I did buy it off eBay, knowing full well the risk I was taking). Any suggestions on where I could get a good battery for a reasonable price? Or can anyone think of anything else that might be draining the battery so fast?
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Buy an Anker or Zerolemon! Both are great.
Download wakelock detector or better battery stats to check what apps are using your battery.
About a week and a half ago, my battery went from draining ten percent in a typical day (hour to an hour and a balf of constant use, browsing Facebook, web, email - if I really went ham I might go down in the 80s) to easily closing in on the 50s if not more.
I've tried several factory resets, gotten the lollipop upgrade that just hit, removed apps, upgraded apps - nothing. I'm on stock and haven't had this phone more than a month. Android System is typically the worst offender for battery usage according to the settings monitor.
Please help. I was so impressed and now I'm at a loss.
If you've done factory resets, then I would say, factory reset again and stay on stock apps. Don't install anything else. Monitor what happens with your battery life. My guess is, if you have installed other apps since doing the factory reset, it's an app that is misbehaving, even though you see android system being the main culprit. More than likely, it could be an app that isn't releasing resources correctly or hasn't been updated to run correctly with LP. That usually points to a sign of improper programming, or they haven't update their app yet to perform correctly under LP.
If things are running fine on stock, start adding your apps back one by one. Install one app, leave it for a few days and see what happens. if battery life stays the same, then move onto the next app. Hopefully, you'll find the app that's giving you issues.
If even with just stock apps you are having the issue, then it might be a hardware issue, possibly even battery. But, if it's been working fine before the LP update, I highly doubt that. My best guess is it's a misbehaving app.
I'm still having problems with nothing else but stock apps, unfortunately. The problem started shortly before the update - does that support that it's more hardware or more software related? The phone is still fairly new and though I know that doesn't rule out a bad battery, still kinda hoping I don't have to deal with Verizon and getting a replacement.
Talked to Verizon, they said "we checked, battery's fine." So... guess its not the battery? They said it "could take a month to normalize after the update."
I would buy a replacement battery and install it, see if that helps. They are cheap and it's good to have one anyway. The Ankers come in a 2-pack with a nice universal wall charger.
Verizon is not even bothering to check really, are they ? Did they even loan you a replacement to prove to you it's not a bad battery ? Doubt it. Do it yourself.
It really sounds like you are having excessive battery drain due to a wakelock problem like with Google's update service. Check around here for threads about how to diagnose and mitigate that.
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I didn't expect Verizon to help, but they definitely impressed with just how little they offered. I'm spending today with Wi-Fi and 4G off, unless browsing, for which I turn the latter on. In my half hour lunch I've noticed much, much better battery usage. Thoughts?
Edit: change of location seems to drain it quicker (school vs McDonalds parking lot - former worse than the latter). Signal was three bars in each, though.
I've looked a bit ino wakelocks but will read up on it more tonight. Problem I've found is how many detectors require root access, and I'm not real interested in rooting.
I just got my G3 last night and rooted it and did a few things to minimize battery drain and today, after almost 12 hours of light to moderate use my battery is still sitting at 81%.
Pretty sure there's a memory leak on stock vs985 lollipop... Or at least from what I had read and experienced
Hello the battery of my Note 8 was not that Great (4:30 Hours SOT) So I found a solution to battery issues and found a great solution.
1- From Setting Turn off :
Near By Device Scanning
Find My Mobile
Smart Capture
Direct Call
Those Sensors REALLY drains the battery and minimize screen on time.
2- Lower down the resolution to FHD Its not as bad as you think. (I am not sure if this saved my battery life but try it).
3- Delete Facebook Official App (or disable it) and install this App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nam.fbwrapper&hl=en
4- Delete Facebook messanger and install facebook messenger (Lite)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.facebook.mlite&hl=en
5- Disable The Edge Panel (Turn it off, The Edge panel is useful I know but it drains the battery so much and you can live without it with alternatives)
6- Go To App Permission from setting ---> Check the permissions to use location and turn off any app you do not want it to use your location.
7- Put Brightness should be just below the warning level (80%)
Now Check These steps please and Get back to me.
Before these steps on Wifi I used to get 4:30 SOT Now I get 6:15-6:30 Hours of SOT.
Note :
Turning sync and vibration saves battery too.
We left home at same time, my wife's IP7P got 80% battery remained, mine is 30%.
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Turning sync and vibration saves battery too.
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It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
Sync? That's mandatory. Find my phone? I did that mistake once, now my Note 3 is in some thieves hands. Edge Panel? Sounds common sense and fair enough, but one would spare 300$ for a phone just as good, without that feature.
It's a matter of what one wants to sacrifice, i get it. What amazes me is not being happy with 5h SoT, i get max 3 in 24h battery life, and i cant bloody find the drainer.
With all my respect, this guide, or tip, is a very personalised one and wont meet the criteria of many people, no matter how effective it is.
PlutoDelic said:
It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
Sync? That's mandatory. Find my phone? I did that mistake once, now my Note 3 is in some thieves hands. Edge Panel? Sounds common sense and fair enough, but one would spare 300$ for a phone just as good, without that feature.
It's a matter of what one wants to sacrifice, i get it. What amazes me is not being happy with 5h SoT, i get max 3 in 24h battery life, and i cant bloody find the drainer.
With all my respect, this guide, or tip, is a very personalised one and wont meet the criteria of many people, no matter how effective it is.
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We both, I feel are more experienced users.
These tips would then be useless to you, granted.
Just some people do not even know having haptic feedback on drains the battery.
Where you think it's a general view that turning features off is useless and that you have paid for it...
I also think it's a general view that people love to save battery life, just the tips will not be for everyone. Just if you do not use it, turn it off.
Currently at 70%, QHD, idle for 16hrs with 2 hrs and 45min SOT. I average 7hrs...
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It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
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LMAO!! I guess I am a little insensitive to this as well. With quick charge , wireless quickcharge and what not I have never really worried to much about the battery life. I dont find the logic in buying an almost 1000 dollar phone full of features to then turn them all off and not use them. I would save the money and just get a Moto phone or an older LG if I was that worried.
Kinda like me complaining about my MSI gaming laptop only lasting 1.4 hours while playing Doom at ultra settings.
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We both, I feel are more experienced users.
These tips would then be useless to you, granted.
Just some people do not even know having haptic feedback on drains the battery.
Where you think it's a general view that turning features off is useless and that you have paid for it...
I also think it's a general view that people love to save battery life, just the tips will not be for everyone. Just if you do not use it, turn it off.
Currently at 70%, QHD, idle for 16hrs with 2 hrs and 45min SOT. I average 7hrs...
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I completely agree with you.
Three years ago i tested a guide from a guy that recommended using a combination of Greenify, Amplify and Power Nap. I did, and somehow i always responded late to messages, and my alarm would randomly wake me up 2 hours later than it's supposed to. Yes i had like 0.5% battery usage during night, 6h screen time, 48h battery life, but the phone wasnt doing anything the moment i put it on my pocket. Did i achieve anything, not really, i just learned the lesson that i stopped my phone from doing what it was supposed to do, and somehow created an anxiety if im missing out, checking my phone every 10 minutes if there was something that is not showing up.
Although, the original poster clearly stated i'd lose that functionality. The moment we twiddle around, it's always trial and error.
Ironically, i made a thread today on the General Android section for literary the same thing.
Battery life in this device is far from what it should be. Literary no recommendation around here proved any success for me. I factory reset twice, i reset all the app permissions, and i just recently rooted to make use of Greenify and similar apps, and im not gaining anything, literary nothing. In fact, this is the first time that rooting doesnt seem feasable, all the ad-blocking software that use root, somehow are useless compared to SABS, and now i wont ever be able to use it.
Every night i sleep with a 90-95% phone, and wake up with a 80-85% respectively, AOD is usually off at that time, and no battery statistics app seems to bloody see how the hell that 10% came to happen.
Never do i have brightness over 35-40%, AoD is scheduled, BLF is schduled (technically, this should add to saving), many apps are on either Samsungs Device Maintenance in always sleep mode, and those that are on the unmonitored ones never make a 5-10% combined daily. I do have the display to max resolution, cause hey, i've bought a device that has that resolution, if i was happy with 720p, id go with a 720p phone.
To whoever gets 4h SoT with 24h battery life, LUCKY BASTARD.
PlutoDelic said:
It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
Sync? That's mandatory. Find my phone? I did that mistake once, now my Note 3 is in some thieves hands. Edge Panel? Sounds common sense and fair enough, but one would spare 300$ for a phone just as good, without that feature.
It's a matter of what one wants to sacrifice, i get it. What amazes me is not being happy with 5h SoT, i get max 3 in 24h battery life, and i cant bloody find the drainer.
With all my respect, this guide, or tip, is a very personalised one and wont meet the criteria of many people, no matter how effective it is.
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In case of this subject, I wouldn't say U are sarcastic - rather a mindopen consciousness user of high-end device ?
And I won't even use my sarcasm as I do enough of that dealing with users 'here and there' (I can assure it would be even more rough). I would fully understand purpose of sharing those so called 'tips&tricks' if there was something really improving the battery life or a list of unnececcery apps/services with some usage stats as a proof (I guess no need to say how many of such Samsung put on their flagships)... But taking 4-point list is like a joke and I honestly threat this thread as such.
My tip for OP - buy a car battery and adopt it for charging ur device will improve ur battery a mile?
With the amount of complaining regarding battery life here on the threads, I think it's always welcome when users suggest tips and tricks that have helped them. There are some features that people don't use, but may not have thought to turn off. Sure, you can also go to the extreme and turn off things you actually use, but that's obviously too far. There is a balance though
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With the amount of complaining regarding battery life here on the threads, I think it's always welcome when users suggest tips and tricks that have helped them. There are some features that people don't use, but may not have thought to turn off. Sure, you can also go to the extreme and turn off things you actually use, but that's obviously too far. There is a balance though
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Idk its not that extreme. Removing facebook / messanger app and installing alternative apps is really important since we know facebook app and messanger drains battery.
And disabling the edge panels saves battery life.
I think the only extreme thing is lowering the resolution to 720p I must agree with that. I am not that sure if it saves battery life I will do some tests.
By the way the only way these settings do not matter to me because I am travelling via air port and. I am a gamer so these settings are really important to me when I am outside home.
What I would consider extreme is lowering brightness to 20 percent a lot of users do that. Through this guide Ypu can have high brightness and Good battery life.
Going through debloating procedures, i definitely get rid of Facebook itself, especially since i've read that they are even tracking users who never had a FB Account, having a system app facebook twiddling around even after you disable it is privacy worries let alone battery ones.
Fair enough, but on the other hand, i wouldn't trust a 3rd part Facebook Client either. Facebook (unfortunately) is my main social messaging access, whoever has the luxury to disable it, that's fine, but it's not a TIP.
Your guide would make perfect sense if it said "Battery tips for using the Note 8 for gaming purposes", but keep in mind that many Note 8 users have a "work environment" background.
I have 3 emails that i work daily with, two of them are very prioritized personally. I'll gladly get a tool that would limit its wakeup abilities where i would control the time frames, but anything more than that destroys my user experience.
Voytec83 said:
Sir, with all respect for OP and U, what kind of usuful 'tips&tricks' are here?? Then just please read few ROM threads and see what kind of bull**** is published without even reading an instructions on BASIC CUSTOM DEVELOPMENT USER. This thread is like a place, from where later some totally crazy issues and demands are born. There is Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and more, where this kind of show-off has it place, thx and sorry if U feel hurt :good:
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The ones included in OP... I thought that was obvious. Sharing tips isn't showing off either, it's what XDA is about: helping others. People complain about battery life ad nauseum, and then others complain when people try to suggest things to improve it. Neither is especially helpful to the community. We should be encouraging thoughtful dialogue, not discouraging it.
Cool Person said:
Idk its not that extreme. Removing facebook / messanger app and installing alternative apps is really important since we know facebook app and messanger drains battery.
And disabling the edge panels saves battery life.
I think the only extreme thing is lowering the resolution to 720p I must agree with that. I am not that sure if it saves battery life I will do some tests.
By the way the only way these settings do not matter to me because I am travelling via air port and. I am a gamer so these settings are really important to me when I am outside home.
What I would consider extreme is lowering brightness to 20 percent a lot of users do that. Through this guide Ypu can have high brightness and Good battery life.
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Re-read my post, I wasn't saying your tips were extreme at all . It was directed to those who said they were against 'crippling a $1k phone'...my point was that yes some battery saving tips can too far, but being smart and simply tweaking the things you don't need still helps and doesn't cripple anything.
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Going through debloating procedures, i definitely get rid of Facebook itself, especially since i've read that they are even tracking users who never had a FB Account, having a system app facebook twiddling around even after you disable it is privacy worries let alone battery ones.
Fair enough, but on the other hand, i wouldn't trust a 3rd part Facebook Client either. Facebook (unfortunately) is my main social messaging access, whoever has the luxury to disable it, that's fine, but it's not a TIP.
Your guide would make perfect sense if it said "Battery tips for using the Note 8 for gaming purposes", but keep in mind that many Note 8 users have a "work environment" background.
I have 3 emails that i work daily with, two of them are very prioritized personally. I'll gladly get a tool that would limit its wakeup abilities where i would control the time frames, but anything more than that destroys my user experience.
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I have tried this with QHD. 70% Brightness and its really Good.
Bear in mind this is on Wifi.
The only extreme thing is 720p admittly.
But I switched to QHD Battery is still a beast.
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The ones included in OP... I thought that was obvious. Sharing tips isn't showing off either, it's what XDA is about: helping others. People complain about battery life ad nauseum, and then others complain when people try to suggest things to improve it. Neither is very helpful to the community.
Re-read my post, I wasn't saying your tips were extreme at all . It was directed to those who said they were against 'crippling a $1k phone'...my point was that yes some battery saving tips can too far, but being smart and simply tweaking the things you don't need still helps and doesn't cripple anything.
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No prob.
I think i tweaked things up instead of using 720p I am using WQHD 70 PERCENT Brightness. I am not seeing much loss 2.30 Hours SOT at 63 percent is pretty Good.
There are a lot of useless features turned off like edge panel,direct call,near by device scanning. And installing alternative facebook apps really solved all issues.
Sry for this . But isnt this post about saving battery life. You few moaning and *****ing at each other isn't for this thread and you've all used too much of my battery......so bigger off and start your own thread...why not call it ...*****ing and moaning to waste battery power.....
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I think as mentioned previously Facebook and other online social media are the worst culprits. I don't use twitter or snapcrap, just FB.
I've just installed Metal Pro and the results frankly don't seem that much different to FB's own app. Will give it a couple of days though as yesterday may have just been getting used to it and therefore using more battery than I would normally.
Viewing all photos in your folder is slow as it seems to load just 4 at a time. I can't find a way to cache them. Images also aren't zoomable in posts.
I also can't find a way to receive message notifications. I've fed both back to the dev so maybe further changes will be available in the course of time.
FB lite is very similar to Metal....
FB really needs to provide better options for sync and what I want to see.
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Sry for this . But isnt this post about saving battery life. You few moaning and *****ing at each other isn't for this thread and you've all used too much of my battery......so bigger off and start your own thread...why not call it ...*****ing and moaning to waste battery power.....
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We are debating, that's what we're here for, some learn, some debate, that does not mean i don't acknowledge OP's efforts, just cause i don't agree with them does not make him a target, i clearly expressed that many of the tips are out of the question for most of the users.
I stood corrected in this place more than once, rather than pulling pride out, i chose to learn.
You really should sharpen up your standards about "*****ing and moaning", and maybe add some useful input we all could learn from.
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I think as mentioned previously Facebook and other online social media are the worst culprits. I don't use twitter or snapcrap, just FB.
I've just installed Metal Pro and the results frankly don't seem that much different to FB's own app. Will give it a couple of days though as yesterday may have just been getting used to it and therefore using more battery than I would normally.
Viewing all photos in your folder is slow as it seems to load just 4 at a time. I can't find a way to cache them. Images also aren't zoomable in posts.
I also can't find a way to receive message notifications. I've fed both back to the dev so maybe further changes will be available in the course of time.
FB lite is very similar to Metal....
FB really needs to provide better options for sync and what I want to see.
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Yeah i tried the Lite's too, while Messenger is ok, the FB app itself felt like opening the Facebook page from my Symbian Nokia on 2005, that's time travel right there. Some people even use FB on Browsers...
I agree who ever want to try the tips should do it, i feel that the best way to save battery is with root and uninstalling all the bloatware i dont know what the hell is wrong with this companies and fb putting it as a priv app for sure that app is a battery hog, also manipulating the kernel and customizing it to your usage helps. before i had a Huawei p10 and i would get with out any touching around 3.5 or 4 hours of SOT i use Data most of the day so its hard on it once i got it root and started to handle the kernel and the bloatware with out limiting my phone functions it went to 6.5 6 hours on mobile data and almost 7.5 hours mixed with wifi. its a shame that im one of the lucky ones with the oem issue still waiting to root this note 8. with this note 8 im getting around 5.5 hours of SOT with mobile data and two sims in it which is not bad considering it has almost the same battery as my p10 but i bigger and better screen cant imagine what ill do once i get root on it.
lil_kujo said:
I agree who ever want to try the tips should do it, i feel that the best way to save battery is with root and uninstalling all the bloatware i dont know what the hell is wrong with this companies and fb putting it as a priv app for sure that app is a battery hog, also manipulating the kernel and customizing it to your usage helps. before i had a Huawei p10 and i would get with out any touching around 3.5 or 4 hours of SOT i use Data most of the day so its hard on it once i got it root and started to handle the kernel and the bloatware with out limiting my phone functions it went to 6.5 6 hours on mobile data and almost 7.5 hours mixed with wifi. its a shame that im one of the lucky ones with the oem issue still waiting to root this note 8. with this note 8 im getting around 5.5 hours of SOT with mobile data and two sims in it which is not bad considering it has almost the same battery as my p10 but i bigger and better screen cant imagine what ill do once i get root on it.
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Oh YES! This is my heavy usage, and this is my moderate one, and i am not conservative at all in display resolution and stuff. Some people seem to get a lot better results however, but this is more then enough for me, even though i do a lot of tweaking here and there.
The biggest factory to battery life is your signal strength. If you have a ****ty carrier or you live in an area where the signal is weak you will have worse battery life then someone living in a city with a carrier like Verizon.
Also for the ultimate battery life turn your phone off at all times. Only turn it on when u need to make a call. Lasts days