Rain X ON Anti Shatter Film OK?? - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

Hi guys,
I think rain x is for glass, but will it be okay to apply it on xperia z ultra anti shatter film?
I don't want to remove the film as i like the sony logo and added protection.
I just want to apply on the front.
Thanks a lot!

if u decide to go with "rain x" or whatever that is...sound like a stereotype american brand...anyway u might want to get a bottle of rain x for plastic instead if you wont remove the asf
https://rainx.com/product/plastic-water-repellent/rain-x-plastic-water-repellent/

SÜPERUSER said:
if u decide to go with "rain x" or whatever that is...sound like a stereotype american brand...anyway u might want to get a bottle of rain x for plastic instead if you wont remove the asf
https://rainx.com/product/plastic-water-repellent/rain-x-plastic-water-repellent/
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Aww that sucks. I don't want to buy another product just for plastic LOL. i don't want to remove the film either.
How do you find the front ASF on z Ultra? How does it handle fingerprints? In summer my hands are really sweaty.
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sw6lee said:
Aww that sucks. I don't want to buy another product just for plastic LOL. i don't want to remove the film either.
How do you find the front ASF on z Ultra? How does it handle fingerprints? In summer my hands are really sweaty.
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The asf scratch easily, the oliofobic wore off in like three months and at about 2/3 down the screen there was a horizontal dull and almost har d to see through line where my fingers had been swiping in many apps. So I took it off about a year ago.
Without its a nightmare. Its completely dull. There is no finish to the glass due to that the asf needed the rough surface to bond to. I have been using Gtechnic kit and it does very well. Its a product most used in sports cars and airplanes but it can be used to anything you like as long as it sticks to the surface.
..But not enough. Probably the best solution would be to have proper buffing equipment and buff the surface until its smooth as crystal glass.
Anyhow I tried a set off those hardened glass protector and thats what im using at the moment. The phone is now two years old so I dont really care much about it. If it dents it dents, if the glass cracks it cracks. Im not spending money on it any longer.
Gtechnic http://gtechniq.com/products/auto/perfect/exterior/paint/g1-and-g4-clearvision-screen-kit
Mocolo http://glass4m.com/product/mocolo-premium-tempered-glass-screen-protector-for-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot to mention the mocolo glass panels also add a bit of ...or very much to make the phone much more rigid! The z ultra is very easy to bend in half but with them mounted its much much more rigid and harder to bend. It feels more like a premium device.

SÜPERUSER said:
The asf scratch easily, the oliofobic wore off in like three months and at about 2/3 down the screen there was a horizontal dull and almost har d to see through line where my fingers had been swiping in many apps. So I took it off about a year ago.
Without its a nightmare. Its completely dull. There is no finish to the glass due to that the asf needed the rough surface to bond to. I have been using Gtechnic kit and it does very well. Its a product most used in sports cars and airplanes but it can be used to anything you like as long as it sticks to the surface.
..But not enough. Probably the best solution would be to have proper buffing equipment and buff the surface until its smooth as crystal glass.
Anyhow I tried a set off those hardened glass protector and thats what im using at the moment. The phone is now two years old so I dont really care much about it. If it dents it dents, if the glass cracks it cracks. Im not spending money on it any longer.
Gtechnic http://gtechniq.com/products/auto/perfect/exterior/paint/g1-and-g4-clearvision-screen-kit
Mocolo http://glass4m.com/product/mocolo-premium-tempered-glass-screen-protector-for-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot to mention the mocolo glass panels also add a bit of ...or very much to make the phone much more rigid! The z ultra is very easy to bend in half but with them mounted its much much more rigid and harder to bend. It feels more like a premium device.
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Can i apply the glass screen protector on top of asf? And if the oleophobic coating of the screen protector fades in a few months apply rainx?
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sw6lee said:
Can i apply the glass screen protector on top of asf? And if the oleophobic coating of the screen protector fades in a few months apply rainx?
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its a common question. As I understand the touch sensitivity is not an issue when applying screen protector onto the asf. So you should be fine.
And Yes typicly rainx should work. But the oleophobic wont wear of the glass screen protector.. not what I have noticed at least.

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its a common question. As I understand the touch sensitivity is not an issue when applying screen protector onto the asf. So you should be fine.
And Yes typicly rainx should work. But the oleophobic wont wear of the glass screen protector.. not what I have noticed at least.
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Aha thanks!!
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[Q] How many people use a screen protector?

I've just bought a used (UK) S2 on eBay, and am wondering whether I should bother with a screen protector for it. From other posts it seems that there are mixed opinions on the effectiveness of Gorilla glass for preventing scratches (particularly from sand), so I wondered how many people bother with a screen protector?
As per previous replies to the question .
Always as Gorilla Glass can get scratched and proof is in the scratched protector but not the screen .
jje
Gorilla Glass...has got that real nice feel to it...hence no protectors...after 2 months of usages no scratches...just got a coloured frontal screen protector on today though...solely for the visual aspects...rather than protections but nice never the less.
I use protectors as sand will scratch G glass. I will give G glass credit though... It is a hell of a lot more scratch resistant than standard screen coatings.
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I don't. I also don't like how the glass feels. But that's because I love my iPod's screen, just how it feels.
prodygee said:
I don't. I also don't like how the glass feels. But that's because I love my iPod's screen, just how it feels.
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a layer of film never hurts. at least something gets in the way before it scratches the actual glass screen.
Definately add a screen protector!
I use PhantomSkinz
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Lots of people have complained that after using a screen protector the phone is no longer responding to touches very well (this can be fixed with a root app though).
There is no real need at all for the screen to have a protector, it is the toughest glass around and there are plenty of videos on youtube of people taking hunting knifes and other sharp objects to their screen with no visible marks being left. Sure it will shatter if it lands on a sharp point but it is not the sort of glass that scratches easily like other phones, removing the need for a screen protector.
Plus the glass is fairly smudge resistant and very smooth to touch.
I fail to see a need.
3 months w/o a screen protector and there isn't a single scratch on my device.
I had a Nexus One with no case for 17 months, which I predominantly kept in my trouser pocket. Not one single scratch on the glass but had various nicks and dents in the metal frame. Have had my gs2 for about 3 months and already have four big scratches on the screen. So my advice, but a protector.
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W0lfd said:
3 months w/o a screen protector and there isn't a single scratch on my device.
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2 months here, zero scratches.
Start using it without any protector. Trust and experience the good feel of the Gorilla Glass. And by any chance if you see any slightest roughness (rare though) appearing... apply a protector.
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...And by any chance if you see any slightest roughness (rare though) appearing... apply a protector.
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if that happens, u are too late already.
that's why u should at least use a protector, to at least prevent that
3 months no protection but im still paronoid i think i need on so whats the best one on the market
I have the SGP Glas just for those crazy moments when something goes wrong. Already busted a Ultra Crystal screen protector with a bad scratch.
Always use protection. Even if it turns out to be a waste, it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
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3 months no protection but im still paronoid
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You've had a white S2 for 3 months?
I use a screen protector and my screen is responsive and have no probs at all. good idea to use i think
I like the gorilla glass but it does seem to be a fingerprint magnet... At least with a screen protector it doesn't pick up those damn fingerprints...
My opinion is that anything that can put a scratch on gorilla glass will have no trouble cutting through a VERY thin layer of film you have applied on top of the gorilla glass making it's 'protection' void.
However, I'm still too paranoid not to use a protector.... :S
I suggest to use one.. I have no problem with touch sensitivity problem.. Better safe than sorry..
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[Q] Scratches resistance

Hi guys, i have a question for those of you who own this awesome device since the intl version came out... what are your thoughts on the scratches resistance of the screen, and more generally the device itself?
I just got my NA version three days ago and i was wonderinf if it was worth putting a screen lrotector on it or the screen is scratches proof?
Thanks!
Sam
It will scratch..... Get a screen protector as soon as possible.
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I've had it a few days now, and i swear i have been consciously very careful with it, but i have a few scratches on my screen. only really noticeable when the screen is off, but still a pain in my ass.
i made sure nothing else was in my pockets and everything. i really don't know how they got there.
so if you're of the protection persuasion then yeah put one on imo.
Read the do i need scratch protector posts in accessories .
jje
Hmmm that sucks ... ok well I'll go buy one asap.. do you have any recommendation for the brand? I really would like one as unnoticable as possible.. I bought some cheap ones on ebay for my old touch pro2 and they are ugly as f**k :/
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I've been using mine for 2 weeks now, no scratches at all! I always put the phone in my pocket by itself and only have a ROCK case on it I guess if ur careful you wont have scratches, but some people just dont know/care how to take care of their things. I have insurance so I have peace of mind should anything happen
its hard to predict the future , as caution as one can be ,accidents do happen , dont regret till it happen
Certainly not scratchproof, got a scratch in 1day and i was carefull... get a screenprotector
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NoOneCanHelpMe said:
I've been using mine for 2 weeks now, no scratches at all! I always put the phone in my pocket by itself and only have a ROCK case on it I guess if ur careful you wont have scratches, but some people just dont know/care how to take care of their things. I have insurance so I have peace of mind should anything happen
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I agree and I also have a Rock case and absolutely love it.
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Scratch resistance? None. My 2 year old Desire has less than this after a month..
It's really sad, if you think about it. The GS3 has Gorilla Glass 2. If anything, it should be much harder to scratch.
That being said, my employer ordered a bunch for a launch event and all but one came back with multiple scratches on the screens. I get the distinct impression that even the iPhone's screen is more scratch resistant. Why are we going backward?
No gorrilla glass screen is scratch resistant. Sometime or the other it will definitely get a scratch. Be wary of the small minute particles like salt, dust..etc if there aint any screen protector....
If u dont want to apply a screen protector and want to keep it scratch free, here's how :
1.Take the phone
2. Put it in its box and seal it
I guarantee screen will not get a single scratch.
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DD-Ripper said:
No gorrilla glass screen is scratch resistant. Sometime or the other it will definitely get a scratch. Be wary of the small minute particles like salt, dust..etc if there aint any screen protector....
If u dont want to apply a screen protector and want to keep it scratch free, here's how :
1.Take the phone
2. Put it in its box and seal it
I guarantee screen will not get a single scratch.
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I have had many phones and I have never used a screen protector on any of them. I also have never scratched the screen on a single one. So, I can assure you that there is more than one answer to "not scratching your screen" and your ridiculous response is wildly unnecessary.
Gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch resistant. That's basically its entire claim to fame. What it isn't is shatter resistant. It is hardened to the point where things like keys and razor blades won't scratch it, but it becomes more brittle and a direct impact will shatter it. This information is freely available on the web.
In the case of the glass on the GS3, it doesn't even seem to be scratch resistant. I have heard cases of the HTC One X scratching easily as well, and it also uses Gorilla Glass 2. Very disappointing.
greyhulk said:
I have had many phones and I have never used a screen protector on any of them. I also have never scratched the screen on a single one. So, I can assure you that there is more than one answer to "not scratching your screen" and your ridiculous response is wildly unnecessary.
Gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch resistant. That's basically its entire claim to fame. What it isn't is shatter resistant. It is hardened to the point where things like keys and razor blades won't scratch it, but it becomes more brittle and a direct impact will shatter it. This information is freely available on the web.
In the case of the glass on the GS3, it doesn't even seem to be scratch resistant. I have heard cases of the HTC One X scratching easily as well, and it also uses Gorilla Glass 2. Very disappointing.
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This is the common misconception of people who think gorrilla glass is scracth resistant. Gorrilla glass only protects the screen from cracking when slipped from the hands or pocket. Its not scratch resistant.
Gorilla glass 2 is more thinner and more fragile than Gorilla Glass 1.
The main weakness of gorrilla glass is small minute particles that have settled on the screen.
Dont believed it...???
Take a particle of salt on your fingertip and spread it on the screen. Have a look on clear sunlight and you will see a light scratch (depending on the force).
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2 weeks naked. Not a mark on it.
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DD-Ripper said:
This is the common misconception of people who think gorrilla glass is scracth resistant. Gorrilla glass only protects the screen from cracking when slipped from the hands or pocket. Its not scratch resistant.
Gorilla glass 2 is more thinner and more fragile than Gorilla Glass 1.
The main weakness of gorrilla glass is small minute particles that have settled on the screen.
Dont believed it...???
Take a particle of salt on your fingertip and spread it on the screen. Have a look on clear sunlight and you will see a light scratch (depending on the force).
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you are incorrect
gorilla glass IS made to be scratch resistant and not drop resistant.
also gorilla glass 2 is not more fragile then gorilla glass 1, gorilla glass 2 is 20% thinner but same strength
personally they shouldnt have made it 20% thinner instead same thickness and 20% stronger
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Scratch resistance? None. My 2 year old Desire has less than this after a month..
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Bull****
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NoOneCanHelpMe said:
I've been using mine for 2 weeks now, no scratches at all! I always put the phone in my pocket by itself and only have a ROCK case on it I guess if ur careful you wont have scratches, but some people just dont know/care how to take care of their things. I have insurance so I have peace of mind should anything happen
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not true I was very careful I have scratches! if you look at it you will say its not but if you look with screen off in the light you will see them
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My cruzerlite cases put a couple light scratches on my marble white gs3 after a day or two. Probably dust that was trapped inside, i can always buy a new backplate.
Honestly, I'm of the opinion (<--note that keyword) that anyone with scratches on this device is doing something wrong. I've had the phone just over two weeks. I don't have a screen protector, or even a case for it. It's just like it was when I got it out of the box (except that I actually put the battery in it and removed all the sticky transparent film from it). I constantly have this in my pocket with nothing besides the occasional spare change to keep it company. No scratches. At all.

removing and replacing screen shatter-resistant protector

The Xperia S comes with a pre-applied shatter resistant screen protector.
Now the thing is I got a scratch on mine. Which kinda sucks. How easy is it to remove it and then replace it with a new exact same one?
I bought a pair of screen protectors. But they don't fit all around the screen like the shatter-resistant protector.
They cut out around the sensors, camera and speaker.
So. Any tips and tricks?
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Well put another one like that, its almost impossible, already its a thread in here for that, how to remove it and the options for a new one
kekkle said:
The Xperia S comes with a pre-applied shatter resistant screen protector.
Now the thing is I got a scratch on mine. Which kinda sucks. How easy is it to remove it and then replace it with a new exact same one?
I bought a pair of screen protectors. But they don't fit all around the screen like the shatter-resistant protector.
They cut out around the sensors, camera and speaker.
So. Any tips and tricks?
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That's because you're supposed to cover the anti-shatter sheet (which is not a screen protector just anti-shatter) with a screen protector that you can easily replace.
I just posted a thread in this same forum section about official Sony ones I got from Japan. But remember they are not the same as your anti-shatter sheet, you're supposed to put them on top of the anti-shatter sheet.
In terms of what they cover, they are the closest to the anti-shatter sheet as they cover all the sensors, the Sony ones just don't cover the camera and the earpiece.
If you order the Sony potector, you have two choices. You can either put it on top of the anti-shatter sheetand hope you wont be able to see the scratch anymore through this one or you can remove the anti-shatter sheet and place this one down alone. Its up to you.
I've already removed the sheet. It's now completely free of protection as I screwed up putting on the screen protector.
It's more sensitive dust and fingermarks now, but overall I'm happy. Will be placing a screen protector on it soon again when I get around to it.
Took mine off today. I seriously, repeat, seriously doubt that sheet can do ANYTHING. It peels off like regular screen protector, does not glue to the glass at all. Once you have a corner up it lasts less than a second to peel it off.
For some of you repeating what SONY want you to believe, carry on.
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richteralan said:
Took mine off today. I seriously, repeat, seriously doubt that sheet can do ANYTHING. It peels off like regular screen protector, does not glue to the glass at all. Once you have a corner up it lasts less than a second to peel it off.
For some of you repeating what SONY want you to believe, carry on.
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That's what I say. The screen is much better without it.
Should i remove the screen protector
I have Scractched My Sony Xperia S , and it kinds of irritates when there is more White ,, I heard and read that the factory applied screen Protector can be removed, the Question is , is it a screen Protector or a shatter Protector..
In the case i do remove it how do i clean the glass if there is any residue gum and will it affect the screen in any way... Should i Put on a New screen Protector Once i Remove the original Factory fitted one.
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That's what I say. The screen is much better without it.
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does Xperia U have the same screen shatter protector? mine is scratched in the second day, now I applied a screen protector over it
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Yes it is a shatter protector thick layer, I damaged mine too (Xperia P), I removed it and then applied a good quality screen protector, no residue no marks are left when the shatter protection is removed, hope this helps.
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I had no idea the provided protectors had to go on top of the already applied one. Is it written in the manual/instructions?
Anyway, what is a good screen protector that can replace the shatter one to a good enough standard? I have scratches on mine, a rather large scuff over the front camera, making it unusable. So I suppose I could remove it and replace it with a protector?
Any recommendations?
It doesn't prevent shatter, i know that for a fact!
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Thats probably why it's not called a shatter preventor protector
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How easily can the screen without the preapplied protector be scratched? Just from carrying in a jeans pocket?
Should I apply a screenprotector if I remove the original one?
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The screen of the Xperia S is pretty scratch proof. Like really proof. The shatter-resistant protector on the other hand gets scratched in no time.
kekkle said:
The screen of the Xperia S is pretty scratch proof. Like really proof. The shatter-resistant protector on the other hand gets scratched in no time.
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This.
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Yeah if I put my face up to the screen during direct sunlight I can just make out tiny scratches. Some of them are not permanent and some clearly are. The screen has been very good vs heavy scratches, but still gets light scratches like every other phone screen I have had. If you were to put a screen protector on you wouldnt even notice the scratches. Light scratches will always happen and it doesnt really bother me unless I can see them.
Edit: I did receive a free Spigen screen protector so I will try it out and see if I like it or not just for the hell of it. Generally though I prefer the naked screen and even my old hero with gorilla glass 1 came through just fine except for the minute almost imperceptible scraches.
Folks, Gorilla Glass is a marketing ploy. It doesn't offer any real scratch resistance over normal glass, but the compound it's made of makes it less likely to shatter (two different things). When it comes to scratch resistance, you're looking at the Mohs scale.
Mohs scale of mineral hardness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You may be more familiar with this than you think. Diamond is a 10, the hardest substance known to man. Diamond can only be scratched by another diamond or a laser.
Glass has a rating of 6-7, depending on the hardness of the glass. Plastic is a 3-4.
If you take your keys over a glass screen (or a glass window), touch it to the surface, and rub with a little pressure (just enough to gain a degree of resistance), you WILL NOT scratch the glass. I've even scared the crap out of someone by hacking at my Zune HD's screen with a carbon-steel steak knife, and not a scratch.
So what will cause you to scratch your glass screen? Two things;
-a softer material (like metal) and force, not resistance. Yes, if you slam something into the screen, it may very well get a small crack, small enough that we see it as a scratch. Because, while glass is very scratch resistant, it easily shatters. It's force that gives us those small "scratches."
-dirt/sand - Sand (quartz sand, specifically) is an active ingredient in glass. If you get small particles of sand or other types of dirt on the screen and then wipe it off with your shirt (or even a microfiber cloth), you can develop small scratches in your screen. The most annoying is those who wipe with a circular motion, as it leaves rings in the screen. Want to avoid this? Take a SMALL amount of Endust for Electronics and a paper towel and gently wipe off the screen. The liquid will act as a buffer between the screen and the dirt. Then, take a microfiber cloth (those little eyeglass cleaning cloths that come with screen protectors) and wipe off the residue left by the Endust and any pieces of the paper towel.
When you use a quality screen protector (SGP, Clarivu, Martin Fields), you're putting a plastic overlay over the phone. While this will scratch more easily than the glass screen, if applied correctly, it acts as a shock absorber, thus making it harder for the screen to shatter. It protects from scratches by taking the scratches itself, and it protects from shattering by absorbing the force of the blow.
The wet applications like the Invisible Shield are so thin that they don't noticeably increase shatter resistance. They'll just keep the screen together when shattered. The Invisible Shield is harder to scratch though, making it so that you don't have to replace it as often (it looks nicer longer than a normal plastic screen protector). Basically, it protects from scratches by deflecting them, but doesn't offer any real shock absorption.
Gorilla glass claims a hardness of 9 on Mohs scale which is utter bs. It realistically has a hardness of about 7-7.5 max. Normal glass can range from 6-7.2 depending on the type. Diamond is 10 and Sapphire is 9 which is what the make high end watch faces out of but is damn expensive. If Gorilla Glass was a 9 then they would use it for the watch faces since it is much much cheaper. I have a Citizen watch that has sapphire and the face is scratched as **** because I have had it for 12 years.
Remember as long as the scratches are the insanely small type caused by sand grains and such, you can easily get some special polish and buff those right out. The one nice thing about our screens not having oleophobic coating is you dont have to worry about damaging the coating when you polish it.
The best way for a manufacturer to reduce scratches is to put a chin on the phone like the Hero had. This way the phone screen never touches the ground.
When I got the phone I thought that the phone had one screen protector installed and that the other one in the packge was spare. How wrong I was. Now the shatter-resistant protector is full of small scrathes, even tough I haven't had keys or anything else on the same pocket. I've had the phone for about three months now.
I ordered Martin Shields few days ago, and I'm going to replave the shatter-resistant protector with that.
I had Wrapsol on my Galaxy Note and was pretty satisfied with it, but unfortunately they don't make one for P. My wife has Zagg on her Galaxy S, but it's bit too stick for my taste.
I put a screen protector on today to test it with one and it was on for all of 30 seconds before I tore it off. I just cant stand the things. Perfect thing for me would be a fold over case but as I use my left hand for the phone, they all fold the wrong way.
The phone was completely unusable for me after removing the shatter protection. The glass itself is a sticky mess, even after wiping of the goo left from the shatter protection, fingerprints and dust stick like crazy and is a real chore to clean.
I bought a Steinhall crystal clear film and the phone is now smooooooth as butter. I absolutely love it.
revan17 said:
The phone was completely unusable for me after removing the shatter protection. The glass itself is a sticky mess, even after wiping of the goo left from the shatter protection, fingerprints and dust stick like crazy and is a real chore to clean.
I bought a Steinhall crystal clear film and the phone is now smooooooth as butter. I absolutely love it.
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It gets better after a while. Mine is nice and smooth. I got a free spigen clear with my case but it didn't feel as good as bare glass.
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I can't stand the edge it adds by the bar on the bottom.
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Usingpens and pencils on the screen

Has anyone else found that when using pencils and pens on the screen that they scratch the hell out of their screens. And it is now pssing me off knowing i have really scratched it beauces of doing something they said you can do. Especially since the screen is meant to be scratch resistant.
Yea it's actually an anti shatter film. not so much a scratch resistant layer. I just put a screen protector on top of mine before I started testing out the handwriting thing. once it scratches I just replace it. gotta do some research before doing some of the sketchy stuff. for example, I have yet to try out the phones water proofing. I know it can be done but should I do it as a test? ehh ill probably just take their word for it. lol
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SAMVREMIX said:
Has anyone else found that when using pencils and pens on the screen that they scratch the hell out of their screens. And it is now pssing me off knowing i have really scratched it beauces of doing something they said you can do. Especially since the screen is meant to be scratch resistant.
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Well yeah this is Sony main weaknesses.. but one of their main strength too.. Saw that Xperia Z1 drop test? not a crack on the screen (compared to the S4 for example). Why? well the shatter proof does its job.. but unfortunately, the scratch resistant nature is only embedded on the screen below it.. so like any other phone, please buy yourself a new screen protector. even my previous Gorilla Glass RAZR MAXX is scratched after 8 months of use.. Better protected than never..
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Well yeah this is Sony main weaknesses.. but one of their main strength too.. Saw that Xperia Z1 drop test? not a crack on the screen (compared to the S4 for example). Why? well the shatter proof does its job.. but unfortunately, the scratch resistant nature is only embedded on the screen below it.. so like any other phone, please buy yourself a new screen protector. even my previous Gorilla Glass RAZR MAXX is scratched after 8 months of use.. Better protected than never..
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I put a gearmaxxx ultra clear screen protector on D1, scratched on day 3 I think, trying to write on the device with a pencil.
Then I got an anti glare no brand screen protector, really good, scratched 5 days ago trying if pencils or metal objects could write under water, as several sites report that as working. Of course it didn't work, but then I obviously scratched the screen protector again.
By then the Chinese glas.t knock off had arrived, so I put that on. Some days later I impressed my dad and my daughter with a pen on it, and she began drawing with the Sketch app.
Wanna know how it ended?
Even the tempered glass got scratched.
Bottom line is, everything get scratched sooner or later.
If you can live with few scratches on your screen and change screen protector every now and then, do as you please, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm not writing on the screen with anything besides my fingers anymore, I'm sick of changing screen protectors, and the original anti shatter film on the device is a pain in the arse to remove if you scratch that.
And if you manage to remove that too, you'll most definitely lose your warranty (other than the Sony logo).
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fastest83 said:
I put a gearmaxxx ultra clear screen protector on D1, scratched on day 3 I think, trying to write on the device with a pencil.
Then I got an anti glare no brand screen protector, really good, scratched 5 days ago trying if pencils or metal objects could write under water, as several sites report that as working. Of course it didn't work, but then I obviously scratched the screen protector again.
By then the Chinese glas.t knock off had arrived, so I put that on. Some days later I impressed my dad and my daughter with a pen on it, and she began drawing with the Sketch app.
Wanna know how it ended?
Even the tempered glass got scratched.
Bottom line is, everything get scratched sooner or later.
If you can live with few scratches on your screen and change screen protector every now and then, do as you please, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm not writing on the screen with anything besides my fingers anymore, I'm sick of changing screen protectors, and the original anti shatter film on the device is a pain in the arse to remove if you scratch that.
And if you manage to remove that too, you'll most definitely lose your warranty (other than the Sony logo).
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Well you could try to find a softer stylus like one on the note 3 though.. or maybe that cp12 embedded stylus could be the perfect solution.. Or like how the zu was advertised, write on the paper on top of the z ultra.. It is meant for carbon copy device..
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I have been using a pencil every so often and not had any issues with the cheep screen protector i have on mine. How hard are you pressing?
hansip87 said:
Well yeah this is Sony main weaknesses.. but one of their main strength too.. Saw that Xperia Z1 drop test? not a crack on the screen (compared to the S4 for example). Why? well the shatter proof does its job.. but unfortunately, the scratch resistant nature is only embedded on the screen below it.. so like any other phone, please buy yourself a new screen protector. even my previous Gorilla Glass RAZR MAXX is scratched after 8 months of use.. Better protected than never..
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I am almost certain that the shatterproof protector they put on their phones only keeps the shards of the broken glass in, so you don't cut yourself or anything. Shatterproof protectors don't actually stop the phone from breaking, whatever glass Sony is using just must be really tough.
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I am almost certain that the shatterproof protector they put on their phones only keeps the shards of the broken glass in, so you don't cut yourself or anything. Shatterproof protectors don't actually stop the phone from breaking, whatever glass Sony is using just must be really tough.
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With some plastic on top I'm sure there is some resistance to shatter because it absorbs some of the shock rather than directly to the glass itself..
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With some plastic on top I'm sure there is some resistance to shatter because it absorbs some of the shock rather than directly to the glass itself..
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Possibly yes but a shatterproof sheet itself does not stop the glass to break, despite the misleading name. It merely keeps the shards in when it does break. I'm sure the Z1's sturdiness is more from Sony's strong glass and frame of the phone than the sheet on they put on the screen
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Does Z Ultra need A screen protector?

I am planning to buy a GadgetShieldz complete body protection. The question is does Z U need it? And if I put a screen protector will the pencil write properly on the screen?
Thanks!
Old topic here on the forum. Yes you probably should think about buying a screenprotector if you going to use a pen. Its an ordinary plastic sheet on the screen molded on and it will get scratched VERY easy. Also the oleofobic coating will wear off with time. In about three months you are going to notice the sheet getting more of a rough texture where you push and swipe your fingers often.
I would say that the stock screen protector has very a low quality in terms of its lifetime and ability to resist scratches.
Examples of quality screen protector:
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/mocolo-for-sony-xperia
and
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/glass-m-sony-xperia
About the GadgetShieldz. I have never heard of this company before. But its the same bull**** crap salesman promises that its "precision manufactured" and "scratch proof" that you see all around Ebay and small websites out there on the interweb.
Its a plastic sheet okay. Enough of the bragging about the so said quality. Plastic is plastic. Or vinyl or whatever it is.
If you want a screen protector. Try out a solid sheet of glass. Like the ones I linked above or if you find something promising out there.
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot. No a screen protector will for the most not disturb the ability to discover pen input. And If you do notice that input skips now and then you can always modify the sensitivity of the touch panel by editing a text file
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Old topic here on the forum. Yes you probably should think about buying a screenprotector if you going to use a pen. Its an ordinary plastic sheet on the screen molded on and it will get scratched VERY easy. Also the oleofobic coating will wear off with time. In about three months you are going to notice the sheet getting more of a rough texture where you push and swipe your fingers often.
I would say that the stock screen protector has very a low quality in terms of its lifetime and ability to resist scratches.
Examples of quality screen protector:
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/mocolo-for-sony-xperia
and
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/glass-m-sony-xperia
About the GadgetShieldz. I have never heard of this company before. But its the same bull**** crap salesman promises that its "precision manufactured" and "scratch proof" that you see all around Ebay and small websites out there on the interweb.
Its a plastic sheet okay. Enough of the bragging about the so said quality. Plastic is plastic. Or vinyl or whatever it is.
If you want a screen protector. Try out a solid sheet of glass. Like the ones I linked above or if you find something promising out there.
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot. No a screen protector will for the most not disturb the ability to discover pen input. And If you do notice that input skips now and then you can always modify the sensitivity of the touch panel by editing a text file
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Thanks a ton friend. Firstly, I have been using GadgetShieldz for about 5 years now. On different phones, it has performed beyond my expectations. However, my question was simply this, that will I need a screen protector, to which I've got my reply, Yes.
And secondly, will using a protector hinder in use of a pen. To which you said, No. But would like if someone using GadgetShieldz replies with their feedback.
But thanks a lot..
I have no experience with the gadgetsheildz so can not comment but i have the Mocolo glass protector (from Superusers link above) on both the front and back of my ZU. My ZU already had a few tiny scratches on the original ASF which have now all but vanished with the mocolo glass in place.
However after testing with both pen and pencil and a coin to test the screenwrite input ability (All worked well and recognition was pretty smooth) the mocolo appears to have picked up a few micro scratches around the area i tested. I Cant be sure what caused it to scratch but i decided to not to use anything other than my finger for input and the write/text input isnt a feature i use much.
Other things i noticed are that although the ZU is huge and can be rather awkward to hold on occasion, i found with the front and back glass applied it has become "more" awkward as it now feels so slippy when holding and it definately moves around the table top a bit too freely for my liking...
Also consider the weight. With both sheets of glass in place there is a definite increase in the overall weight of the device. Many will say the increase is negligible but i find coupled with slippy hand feel, the slightly heavier package just adds to the overall awkwardness of the device.
However there is peace of mind knowing the original glass underneath is well protected :fingers-crossed:
I'm sure these issues could be rectified with the use of a gel case on back which i am considering as my ZU looks amazing and the above glass protector fits like a glove but the phone feels more fragile/vulnerable than before.
My backside has cracked. And I like it. Because it shows that my mocolo did the job it was designed to. :good: I might buy a new set later on. It has not affect my user experience because there are no sharp ends or pieces of glass that can hurt me.
What I like about it is that it makes the z ultra rigid and more durable. Without the sheets I can easily bend my device so I just find it positive to have the sheets. And I just love the extra weight and feeling of glass
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My backside has cracked. And I like it. Because it shows that my mocolo did the job it was designed to. :good: I might buy a new set later on. It has not affect my user experience because there are no sharp ends or pieces of glass that can hurt me.
What I like about it is that it makes the z ultra rigid and more durable. Without the sheets I can easily bend my device so I just find it positive to have the sheets. And I just love the extra weight and feeling of glass
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When you say the back has cracked do you mean the glass underneath the protector has cracked, or has the mocolo glass cracked?
The worry is the front underside glass cracking which from all accounts renders the device non functional to any touch.
Con500 said:
When you say the back has cracked do you mean the glass underneath the protector has cracked, or has the mocolo glass cracked?
The worry is the front underside glass cracking which from all accounts renders the device non functional to any touch.
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The backside mocolo glass has cracked :good:
a question about screen
Hello everyone,
This is my first post here. I have ordered Z Ultra which will be delivered most probably tomorrow. After ordering i read so many complaints about the screen self breaking problem in Xperia Z series and Sony is not covering it in warranty. I am confuse whether to keep the phone or should i return it. Or is there any way to save or protect the screen. Will applying tempered glass protector solve the problem. People has complained screen cracks even after few days of purchase. I am worried about it, dont want to waste my hard earned money
Please suggest guys about the protector.
Thanks in advance.
Sandeep Bharaj
sandeep_bharaj said:
Hello everyone,
This is my first post here. I have ordered Z Ultra which will be delivered most probably tomorrow. After ordering i read so many complaints about the screen self breaking problem in Xperia Z series and Sony is not covering it in warranty. I am confuse whether to keep the phone or should i return it. Or is there any way to save or protect the screen. Will applying tempered glass protector solve the problem. People has complained screen cracks even after few days of purchase. I am worried about it, dont want to waste my hard earned money
Please suggest guys about the protector.
Thanks in advance.
Sandeep Bharaj
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If you keep it out of your trousers pockets and not placing it where it can be bent (Yes the Z ultra can be bent very easy) .i.e. for example between your doorkeys and heavy books in your bag or tight pockets in your skinny jeans. Or subjecting your device to fast temperature changes for example from direct sunlight indoors to minus degrees winter outdoors and vice versa. Keep it in your pocket to ease the temperature change etc.
Think about the phone like its a glass oven baking dish because it has two safety glass sheets and addition to that it has air trapped inside it because the Z ultra is waterproof or at some level at least (1meter/30min?)
If you are careful where you put it then you don't have to worry that the screen might self crack. I hope I did not scare you now.. :silly:
I have not had an issue with my screen yet at least so you can relax
I put an illumishield screen protector over the stock screen, because of what I read about scratches. So screen protectors are from and back.
Getting the DSC-QX10 lens, so I got the adapter SPA-ACX3 for XZ. Lens locks onto the back of mobile ? Phone .
Plus, I wrap my XZ in a microfiber cloth , and carry in my messenger bag, with NFC Bluetooth headphones .
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If you keep it out of your trousers pockets and not placing it where it can be bent (Yes the Z ultra can be bent very easy) .i.e. for example between your doorkeys and heavy books in your bag or tight pockets in your skinny jeans. Or subjecting your device to fast temperature changes for example from direct sunlight indoors to minus degrees winter outdoors and vice versa. Keep it in your pocket to ease the temperature change etc.
Think about the phone like its a glass oven baking dish because it has two safety glass sheets and addition to that it has air trapped inside it because the Z ultra is waterproof or at some level at least (1meter/30min?)
If you are careful where you put it then you don't have to worry that the screen might self crack. I hope I did not scare you now.. :silly:
I have not had an issue with my screen yet at least so you can relax
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Thanks alot for the reply
I am using it since 4 days with all possible precautions. I havnt put it in my jeans pocket yet. Carrying it in shirt's pocket all the time
Secondly i get in insured :thumbup:
If in case its screen breaks, i ll get something from inssurance company.. actualy phone is really good at d price i got so didnt returned..
Thanks for d suggestions, i ll take care about the temprature change.. will avoid sudden temperatures..
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I wish I didn't listen to the people that told me I didn't need on for the i9100. I had to live with that scratch for nearly 15 months.
Got one from day one with this, and will do for all future phones until I can trust there won't be a single scratch over the life of the phone.
screen protector..
X0LARIUM said:
I am planning to buy a GadgetShieldz complete body protection. The question is does Z U need it? And if I put a screen protector will the pencil write properly on the screen?
Thanks!
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yes.. you need that... i would prevent you screen from scratches.. z ultra is not protected by corning gorilla glass or something.. its just a shatter proof glass.. so its better to buy a screen protector
jsonexe said:
yes.. you need that... i would prevent you screen from scratches.. z ultra is not protected by corning gorilla glass or something.. its just a shatter proof glass.. so its better to buy a screen protector
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