Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
If you realy want to delete touch wiz, you'll have to root your phone otherwise you can't get rid of touch wiz, however you can run a different launcher and having touch wiz on your phone.
Hi Viletung. In WebOS, it takes me about 30 seconds to root the phone.
Yet that retains all the phone settings unchanged, while allowing me to install packages, manipulate data, etc. Is it the same thing with SGS2?
I guess my question is: is it recommended to root the phone? I'm curious if most of Android users root their phone. I know I rooted my Palm Pre/Pre2 phones 5min after I got them. I read on the Internet that certain ROM's are built on stock Gingerbread (without TouchWiz), allowing the phone to save on battery and run much smoother with less used resources. Obviously, if you install a new ROM it will void the warranty.
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
Hello!
I've installed Lite'ning rom 1.5, which has root access. And to flash it takes about one minute!
When I got this phone, I knew it was possible to root my phone, but I was scared that I would screw something up and break the device.
Now, it's about one month after I got this phone and I must say after rooting the device, deleting some standard Samsung **** (Social Hubs etc..), my SGSII isn't draining battery as it used to do before I deleted some stuff. (Including TouchWiz)
But I have also a JIG, to reset the custom kernel counter, just incase I need my warranty back.
So my final conclusion is; I can't life without root! I like to edit the system icons (battery-, wifi icon and much more).
If you have any questions, I'll try to help you
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
Most dont root but most are not on XDA and dont know anything bar stock . I would guess most XDA users root .
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
To a certain extent its been a learning curve for the devs as SGS 2 is different to SGS1 .Expect even more development as the days go by .
jje
Thanks a lot guys for the info.
prodygee said:
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
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Thanks for the info. I want to have the latest version of Android, I don't really care about Gingerbread. How do updates work on Android (i.e. updating to Ice Cream Sandwich eventually)? On WebOS, updates are done automatically from your carrier or Palm/HP (if you had an unlocked phone like myself). Even if I rooted my phone, I would be able to update the phone firmware with a simple download and retain the rooted aspect of the phone.
About rooting, what did you used? I'm looking at Odin and SuperOneClick... is there something better/safer? One more time, thank you.
Official updates via Kies over PC only .
Rooting is usually lost on update .
Rooting via Chainfire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
jje
yqed said:
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock.
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Why don't you use it for a least a few seconds before ditching it, there's no aosp gingerbread anyway so you're stuck with it until cm7 comes along.
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
yqed said:
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's correct, and is one of the main reasons people root their Androids so that when a new version comes out we can download it straight away and don't have to wait for the carrier to officially release it, which usually takes a lot longer than it does for the devs here to put something together. E.g. there are a few ROMs already in the dev forum based on 2.3.4, but there is not yet any official update.
Thanks guys much appreciated. I will probably have more questions, once I have the phone on hand.
yqed said:
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android phones get new updates over the air when available, just like web os. Only Samsung does their own thing which is different on the sgs2 than on normal android devices. .
Which is, providing updates through an unnecessary software suite called KIES. You won't see an update available message on your phone.
yqed said:
Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
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Just install a launcher fromthe Android Store. There's plenty of good ones like LauncherPro, GX Launcher, 7 launcher. Their all relatively good and fully functional.
OK, I got the phone (16GB model) today from FutureShop and played with it a bit. It is a great phone indeed...
Phone Info (might be useful for devs)
Network: Bell Canada
Model: GT-I9100M
Android Version: 2.3.3
Baseband Version: I9100MUGKG2
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100MUGKG2-CL371789 [email protected] #2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.UGKG2
Now, on with the usual:
Bell bundled the phone with several crap apps like Self Serve, TeleNav GPS (how stupid is that on an Android), Remote PVR, etc.
I will follow your advice and use the phone for now as is, without any fancy stuff done to it (like a new ROM). I would like to get rid of the Bell proprietary apps (physical delete), let me know if is possible. I guess if the phone is rooted it should be easy, the trick is to know how to delete the apps from the phone.
Another question: How do I install the Samsung drivers, without installing the blotted KIES?
I looked for a clean package with SGS2 drivers only but I could not find anything... All I want is to go to Device Manager and point a directory.
I must admit that Android is a totally new experience, coming from WebOS. I'm pretty much lost, heh. I know I sound like a noob, so please forgive me if I ask some simple questions that I can get the answer with a search or just by reading the phone instructions (haven't had the time to read the documentation).
Hi,
Is it possible to root S3 with S4 stock rom.
Rgrds
Kanak
Well you can't really put a s4 rom on a s3 dye to the fact that they are two different devices and trying to do this will most likely end up with you owning a bricked phone. Therefore you wouldn't be able to root as this isn't possible unless you had a ported rom.
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Rooting vs. ROMs
It also may help to look at it like this: as I understand it, rooting your phone grants you access to low level software functions, such as reading and writing system directories and files. This is useful if you want to overwrite certain files which may alter the functionality of your phone or to perform complete backups and restores. Your phone would need to be rooted in order to install another ROM, as you need to overwrite boot files and other system files.
A ROM, on the other hand, contains the complete system, and other apps the developer has chosen to include. ROMs usually are installed pre-rooted, so that you retain that control.
A stock S4 ROM wouldn't work on an S3, though, because they are completely different hardware, and the kernel, etc. is built with the drivers for the S4. I wouldn't run on your S3 at all.
Smart money says, though, that if they haven't already, developers soon begin pulling out the choicest bits of the new software and making it available for the older phones.
Have a look at the forum for your phone, and keep an eye on the developer sections, and you'll see things popping up.
Thanks a lot guys for the help. How to get the features of S4 on S3 like air gesture, etc. Also which is the best 4.2.2 rom apart from the leaked rom for S3.
kanakchangela said:
Thanks a lot guys for the help. How to get the features of S4 on S3 like air gesture, etc. Also which is the best 4.2.2 rom apart from the leaked rom for S3.
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Air gestures might be possible to be used on a S3 but there is a low chance as if it is hardware specific it wouldn't work and would be hard to make it work on a S3. Also try CM10.1 it is not fully stable yet but it is an alternative to the stock 4.2 rom.
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hello all!
it's been awhile when i last flashed my rooted s3. the firmware which i've used is: I9300XXUGMK6
it worked well, but now it's struggling and hanging. goes back to the home screen from itself and such.
i don't have much extra apps running, almost slim. i do have one of those devices which have this
memory bug. has this been resolved by now or can i dodge this device into the trash??
besides that, i've looked through the forums but can't get along with all the thread jungle here.
is there any newer version than 4.3 which is able to run on this device? i've read that 4.4 kitkat
isn't made for this device but've also seen that some guys managed to fix something together.
is it save yet to use such a firmware or is there any firmware which fixes the memory bug?
sincerly
kuraigu said:
hello all!
it's been awhile when i last flashed my rooted s3. the firmware which i've used is: I9300XXUGMK6
it worked well, but now it's struggling and hanging. goes back to the home screen from itself and such.
i don't have much extra apps running, almost slim. i do have one of those devices which have this
memory bug. has this been resolved by now or can i dodge this device into the trash??
besides that, i've looked through the forums but can't get along with all the thread jungle here.
is there any newer version than 4.3 which is able to run on this device? i've read that 4.4 kitkat
isn't made for this device but've also seen that some guys managed to fix something together.
is it save yet to use such a firmware or is there any firmware which fixes the memory bug?
sincerly
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It's normal, every rom after more time of use may lag or freeze, a solution is to format internal sdcard or flash a AOSP custom rom like cyanogenmod, omnirom etc
kuraigu said:
hello all!
it's been awhile when i last flashed my rooted s3. the firmware which i've used is: I9300XXUGMK6
it worked well, but now it's struggling and hanging. goes back to the home screen from itself and such.
i don't have much extra apps running, almost slim. i do have one of those devices which have this
memory bug. has this been resolved by now or can i dodge this device into the trash??
besides that, i've looked through the forums but can't get along with all the thread jungle here.
is there any newer version than 4.3 which is able to run on this device? i've read that 4.4 kitkat
isn't made for this device but've also seen that some guys managed to fix something together.
is it save yet to use such a firmware or is there any firmware which fixes the memory bug?
sincerly
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try dummy file generator
kryoarg said:
try dummy file generator
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don't understand this, but I suggest [Nano 8.1](http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-ncsrom-v8-0-nh4-19-09-2014-t2895496) : your S3 will fly. With 4.4-TouchWiz-Roms I would wait still 2 month...
kuraigu said:
hello all!
it's been awhile when i last flashed my rooted s3. the firmware which i've used is: I9300XXUGMK6
it worked well, but now it's struggling and hanging. goes back to the home screen from itself and such.
i don't have much extra apps running, almost slim. i do have one of those devices which have this
memory bug. has this been resolved by now or can i dodge this device into the trash??
besides that, i've looked through the forums but can't get along with all the thread jungle here.
is there any newer version than 4.3 which is able to run on this device? i've read that 4.4 kitkat
isn't made for this device but've also seen that some guys managed to fix something together.
is it save yet to use such a firmware or is there any firmware which fixes the memory bug?
sincerly
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The memory bug you are referring to only affected CM based roms and not the others.
There are quite a few kitkat roms for the i9300.
Ditch the stock and flash something else.
Hoping someone has a minute or two too answer a few questions. Currently have the Metro PCS S5, but was told I can use the T Mobile software which will work perfectly with it and found out that Metro won't be putting out Lollipop for S5 and would prefer Lollipop over KK. Anyway...
1. I'm opting for 5.0 since 5.1.1 cannot be rooted yet, but was wondering how stable is 5.0?
2. How stable is 5.1.1?
3. Do you think it's worth the effort for me to install 5.0 while waiting on 5.1.1 to be rootable or do you think a root method will be out soon enough that I should just hold off on the 5.0 install?
MortTheBeast said:
Hoping someone has a minute or two too answer a few questions. Currently have the Metro PCS S5, but was told I can use the T Mobile software which will work perfectly with it and found out that Metro won't be putting out Lollipop for S5 and would prefer Lollipop over KK. Anyway...
1. I'm opting for 5.0 since 5.1.1 cannot be rooted yet, but was wondering how stable is 5.0?
2. How stable is 5.1.1?
3. Do you think it's worth the effort for me to install 5.0 while waiting on 5.1.1 to be rootable or do you think a root method will be out soon enough that I should just hold off on the 5.0 install?
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Whoever told you metro isn't updating the s5 is wrong.
5.1.1 runs way faster than 5.0, much smoother, more fluid, gallery and camera is 10x faster, battery seems improved, and I haven't had any issues with it. Yeah no root at the moment but I'm a root junkie and still tough'n out unrooted. And you don't need root for everything since you can flash recovery, MOAB, debloat with the debloater in general, make your own debloat script, etc etc
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Whoever told you metro isn't updating the s5 is wrong.
5.1.1 runs way faster than 5.0, much smoother, more fluid, gallery and camera is 10x faster, battery seems improved, and I haven't had any issues with it. Yeah no root at the moment but I'm a root junkie and still tough'n out unrooted. And you don't need root for everything since you can flash recovery, MOAB, debloat with the debloater in general, make your own debloat script, etc etc
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From what I was told at the local corporate Metro is that they were out of the S5 and didn't expect anymore since they were phasing out the S5 since the S6 was released. I can only assume that if they are phasing it out, they wouldn't waste resources updating it. Not to mention the fact that T Mobile released 5.0 back in like Feb for the S5 and would have expected Metro to follow suit since their pretty much one and the same company.
Hi all,
As my S3 is struggling even with simple day to day use (no games, skype, etc, only gmail, sms, phone and viber) with it's 1gb RAM, I was thinking of flashing Tizen. Is it possible?
Thanks
If you mean with S3 the GT-I9300 variant?
Then yes.
You can use the RD-PQ (old reference device) Firmwares...
You can do this, for ""Transforming"" into Tizen RD-PQ:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64794497&postcount=68
Warning!
Be sure you know what you do...
Own risk.
Risk to brick...
Then you need Tweezers...
I am tooo lazy to upload Windows Firmware for RD-PQ...
As nobody use it...
So you are forced to flash with Linux and lthor...
Think twice before you try...
Best Regards
dark_fighter said:
Hi all,
As my S3 is struggling even with simple day to day use (no games, skype, etc, only gmail, sms, phone and viber) with it's 1gb RAM, I was thinking of flashing Tizen. Is it possible?
Thanks
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You should flash a custom Android ROM or an original none bloated rom compatible with your device. I remember my colleague had issues with his S3 a few years ago, it got slower by the day and a full reset didn't solve it because of bad optimization from the carrier version of the rom. flashing the international version or a debloated rom here in XDA made the device run as new again.
Even if you would flash Tizen it wouldn't be optimized properly as there is no proper development for it which I can find so don't count on it. however custom rom development is quite full here and well worth a look!
good luck