[Q] Could internal GPS be broken or antenna unplugged? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys,
Here's my issue: tried different ROMs, tried different baseband, tried FasterGPS, tried GPS Status, no matter what I can wait for an hour and the phone won't get a GPS fix. I can barely have 2 or 3 sats and even then very briefly. I do that in the open, to no avail.
Could the antennas be unplugged? I had the front glass changed a while ago, then didn't use GPS (Galaxy S2 wasnt primary device) so maybe missed that at the time.
Or could there be something else that I missed?
FYI I'm running CM12.1 now and everything works like a charm except the GPS.

liberteus said:
Hi guys,
Here's my issue: tried different ROMs, tried different baseband, tried FasterGPS, tried GPS Status, no matter what I can wait for an hour and the phone won't get a GPS fix. I can barely have 2 or 3 sats and even then very briefly. I do that in the open, to no avail.
Could the antennas be unplugged? I had the front glass changed a while ago, then didn't use GPS (Galaxy S2 wasnt primary device) so maybe missed that at the time.
Or could there be something else that I missed?
FYI I'm running CM12.1 now and everything works like a charm except the GPS.
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I'm also using a LP ROM, but the GPS works like a charm for me. So, I think the GPS Antenna is broken/detached and needs to be set again.
Maybe you could pay a visit at the Samsung Service Center and show this error to them. Although before going to them, you would have to shift to Stock ROM.
Regards, and Best of Luck!

Yeah... well I'm going to spare myself visiting a samsung center or a repair shop of any kind and will just go straight to using my iphone when I go jogging...
It's a pain though, but whatever.

liberteus said:
Yeah... well I'm going to spare myself visiting a samsung center or a repair shop of any kind and will just go straight to using my iphone when I go jogging...
It's a pain though, but whatever.
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Haha. I pretty much think that it is fixable in a few dollars, and your visit would give you a good result.
Regards.

a few $ for a 4yr old phone is not something I'm willing to spend. Rather buy a compact sony or a mini galaxy

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[Q] Is the GPS working right?

I had the Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant (American Version) and I loved it! However I was never able to use the GPS functions. It was kinda annoying but the phone was worth it.
I am thinking about getting the new version but this time I NEED the GPS to be working well. I have been trying to find info about it but I am still not able to find the right info.
I am playing Golf and I just started a course to get my Driver License so it will be nice to have something to guide me around places that I dunno .
Cheers!
Coniglio said:
I had the Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant (American Version) and I loved it! However I was never able to use the GPS functions. It was kinda annoying but the phone was worth it.
I am thinking about getting the new version but this time I NEED the GPS to be working well. I have been trying to find info about it but I am still not able to find the right info.
I am playing Golf and I just started a course to get my Driver License so it will be nice to have something to guide me around places that I dunno .
Cheers!
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yes the gps need few moments to lock in. after first lock its only need an about 5-6 sec to relog again. No issues at all with GPS - its working perfect. if u will have the phone and u will search for gps navigation send me a pm and i may have something for u (sygic). u cant go wrong with this device
Well I had the Galaxy I and it was so bad I returned it after a month. I've been testing the Galaxy II for 3 days now and so far all the GPS tracks I've recorded have been pretty good. It appears to hold on to locks quite decently (unlike the SGS 1) and is a lot more accurate.
It's no reference GPS unit and no geocaching wonder, but it appers to be good enough for driving navigation and pretty "common usage", which is a lot better than the Galaxy I, a GPS disaster.
mine isnt very good!!
i get 20 meter accuracy with a-gps where at the same time my friends Arc gets 5-7 meter accuracy with gps only
Very good no complaints .
jje
dudi1986 said:
mine isnt very good!!
i get 20 meter accuracy with a-gps where at the same time my friends Arc gets 5-7 meter accuracy with gps only
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Same problem.
Normally, my SGS2 gets 8-20m accuracy while HTC phones get <5m always.
Thanks guys! I have got myself this beauty about 2 hours ago. I have tried the maps app and its working. So far only with a crappy wifi signal and with my 3Gs connection that seems to be working kinda odd (it goes off and on and then for a while it appears and H as internet connection).
So far with the crappy wifi connection (about 50 meters away in another building) I am getting a lock with 30-40 meters. And with the 3Gs was the same however, the connection keeps changing to H while trying to get a lock. I have tried just about 3 mins ago with 3gs and I was only getting 800 meters .
So it seems ok but completly perfect. if I start to get locks over 50mts I should exchange the phone, right?
Cheers
whats the "Use sensor aiding" for? Does it helps? or its useless ?
Coniglio said:
whats the "Use sensor aiding" for? Does it helps? or its useless ?
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I think it uses Wifi + GSM network to help triangulate
Micksta said:
I think it uses Wifi + GSM network to help triangulate
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So, that´s a "Its good, leave it on as well"? LOL hihih
thanks

Need some help, or this has to go back

I travel a lot, and I'm a minimalist. In other words, I'll travel for a week and take a paper lunch bag as my carry-on with hopes that I can get by with wearing the same outfit the entire week. I don't like carrying a full Navigation system and use my phone. This isn't an 'iPhone lovefest' because honestly, I hate everything about Apple, but I never had problems like this on my iPhone.
My problem though is the GPS. I'm on my third phone because of the GPS. The first phone would never get a lock on GPS. I could be sitting outside with a GPS satellite dedicated to me directly above me, and it would still say "Searching for Satellite". That phone went back and I took on another one.
Second phone had a problem where every now and then it would work, then stop working and never start working again until I rebooted the phone and even then it was questionable if it would start working again.
I just got my third phone a couple days ago. I did a stock root w/ no bootloaders, used Entropy's 11/13 Kernel, then threw on UnNamed ROM. This morning, I started up my car to drive somewhere and decided to test the GPS/Navigation. It took it a couple minutes to find the Satellite, then all seemed to be working ok. Then 20 minutes later it dropped the Satellite and it spent the next 40 minutes of my drive into the office saying "Searching for Satellite" no matter what I did.
This is really important to me as is the ability to tether when I want to (hence the reason I want a phone I can Root). So what can I do. At the moment, I've (In my head, so I could be wrong) narrowed it down to a couple things that could be wrong.
1. It's the ROM that's the problem. Though unlikely, it is a factor and it's me messing with the way the phone was designed and distributed.
2. It's the GPS in general. Seems like 95% of the people on here aren't having problems at all. There does seem to be 5% that seem to be having the same problems I am.
3. My region has crappy Satellite Coverage. Doubtful since my iPhone worked fine, and unless Apple did something amazing like put in an entire dedicated Satellite network to work with Jailbroke iPhones then this kinds of negates this though.
4. My cars are interferring. While this is entirely a possibility (I never do think to test this out in the open not in a car, so i can't say for sure) if it is the problem, then the device goes back as it's much cheaper to get a new device than to replace 2 cars. Again, though, my iPhone never had a problem doing this in these cars.
I love the phone, the speed, the Android OS etc... I don't want to go back to an iPhone because I"ll shoot myself. I just want to be able to have GPS work on this as it's the only hold up on the device. Any help anyone can do?
Take it back then. Honestly you say you have tried 3 different phones and all 3 are broken. I call bull****.
Never had a problem with it.
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You didn't mention if you've tried in ANY of the three (3) phones if the GPS worked before rooting?? I'm not saying it's the rooting that's causing the problem, but I'm still running stock on my SGSII and have had no issues with GPS? Not saying it's not possible but three phones is kinda stretching it a bit to all have the same issue.
Yes, I know you took it back to STOCK rom with #3 but who knows if the STOCK ROM is really *STOCK*, you should try a new phone #4 stock without ROOT for at least a day or two to determine if it is a DESIGN/HARDWARE issue rule that out first and then try from there... If this still happens with STOCK phone, you may have to switch to another phone (iphone or otherwise)...
Good Luck!
I just took it back to stock and was going to go outside to see if it had problems finding service. Though as mentioned in many other threads on here, it's not so much it finding you when you're standing still. It's when you're driving the streets of Atlanta that things get crazy.
stalked_r/t said:
I just took it back to stock and was going to go outside to see if it had problems finding service. Though as mentioned in many other threads on here, it's not so much it finding you when you're standing still. It's when you're driving the streets of Atlanta that things get crazy.
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Hi Stalk,
Keep in STOCK mode and drive around with it and see if this is still an issue then... Also if you have an aluminum case, this has been a known issue where the TARGUS (SP?) korean made BEAUTIFUL/GORGEOUS case affected the GPS antennae. Try it stock no case on the dash away from DIRECT sunslight and begin troubleshooting there...
UNFORTUNATELY it may boil down to Stock and working GPS or ROOT with Tethering... You ***MIGHT*** not be able to do both...
Good Luck...
If you JUST root, it shouldn't affect GPS - but test without rooting first.
And I agree - if you've got a metal case, DITCH IT.
So far, my experience is that the GPS chipset is almost as good as any standalone GPS chipset I've used - Sirf StarIII, MTKv2, STM Cartesio (the latter being the chipset in my Garmin Oregon, the former being chipsets in various Bluetooth dataloggers I've used for hiking). Actually, the GPS in this phone beats the StarIII and is around on par with the Cartesio. So far nothing I've ever used can touch an MTKv2 though.
I'm used to phones having crappy awful GPS chipsets - this is the first device I would ever consider using for geocaching on its own.
Thanks for the replies. I did test just now on the way to and from lunch with stock everything. I do have a case that's part aluminum (Case-Mate). I didn't try it without the case. didn't even think it could affect this.
Running a stock setup, I attempted to get navigation to my lunch location The drive was about 6 miles each way. When I left the office, I started Navigation. It never found a satellite enroute to the restaurant. I never stopped it during lunch from looking, though I was in a building, so i didn't expect it to find anything. On the way home, same status. Searching for satellites. I'm torn. I want this phone bad, love the Dev support, and there's nothing coming from AT&T that makes me want to use an old Blackberry to wait for. I also don't know what I can do to test this further.
On the way home, I'm going to do something very simple. I'm going to wipe the phone. I'm going to skip all steps of the initial setup, just have service and that's it. I'll start navigation and have it direct me home. If it doesn't work, I'll look at my options. If it works, then I know it's an app that's causing the problem.
Unless someone else can think of something for me to try. I wish this just worked like I know it can.
Ok. So an update. Wiped phone, not even associated with Google, Removed my 32 gig SD card for the heck of it, removed the case. Started nav and INSANTLY inside a building it had me pinpointed and was directing me to the next turn point to get home.
Here's the case I have: http://www.case-mate.com/Samsung-Ga...rsion-Barely-There-Brushed-Aluminum-Cases.asp
In one of the reviews, this is said:
As much as I wanted to love this case, I couldn't. I've used many Case Mate products before and I am just disappointed in them for the lack of quality of this case. There is a noticeable issue with the case fitting the bezel on the top right corner of the phone. The lip of the case fails to properly wrap around the front bezel. There is also the connectivity problems that come with this case. GPS has especially weakened with this case on. Other than that, I like the quality material that this case is built out of and feels very sturdy. Unfortunately though as of this writing, this is really the only choice for a decent case for this phone on the market. Time will tell if better choices come about.
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I'm going to keep this setup through tomorrow, then root the phone if there's no difference in performance and all is well. If that works fine for 2 days, I'll throw the Kernel on and throw UnNamed on. If that works, I'll throw the case on and see what happens. I now feel like this could be the problem. Thanks for the thoughts guys. I'll continue my abuse of the "THANKS" button and thank you all.
ride home was flawless. If ride to work tomorrow is flawless, I'll root and flash.
Entropy512 said:
If you JUST root, it shouldn't affect GPS - but test without rooting first.
And I agree - if you've got a metal case, DITCH IT.
So far, my experience is that the GPS chipset is almost as good as any standalone GPS chipset I've used - Sirf StarIII, MTKv2, STM Cartesio (the latter being the chipset in my Garmin Oregon, the former being chipsets in various Bluetooth dataloggers I've used for hiking). Actually, the GPS in this phone beats the StarIII and is around on par with the Cartesio. So far nothing I've ever used can touch an MTKv2 though.
I'm used to phones having crappy awful GPS chipsets - this is the first device I would ever consider using for geocaching on its own.
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I haven't gotten enough free time to log the NMEA output, but I don't think our "SirfSTAR IV" chipset is actually even using DGPS/WAAS. Which makes the accuracy it get's even more impressive. The chip definitely supports WAAS, but who knows exactly how the implementation is done between Android & Samsung...
I've also owned a SirfStar III based Bluetooth GPS, a MTK-based GPS (also the best I've found), and several phones with dedicated and integrated GPS chipsets. Have to agree our GS2 is one of the best. I can't exactly wander around the house and have it track my every movement like my Bluetooth pucks can (also having a large ceramic patch antenna helps a bit no doubt), but my GS2 locks fast, and stays locked. What else can you want from a GPS?
Might be worth it to look into WAAS either way though. On any standalone GPS unit, WAAS is the difference between 15-30 meter accuracy, and 3-5 meter (or better) accuracy. That is unless you have a military GPS unit, and the appropriate keys to receive the high accuracy P(Y)/M signals...
If you want to get a good idea of how the GPS is doing, this app will show you the strength of your GPS lock:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2
Also, upon further research, the NMEA output is reporting that WAAS/DGPS is not in use.
Example: "$GPGGA,222520.000,4218.460926,N,07111.901869,W,1,06,1.2,77.1,M,-33.8,M,,*53"
Where the bold "1" should be 2, and the null field right before the checksum "*53" should be the age of the DGPS/WAAS info if it were in use.
The chipset in our phones (http://www.csr.com/products/35/sirfstariv-gsd4e) clearly states that it supports WAAS. And since the choice of DGPS or not is solely in the hands of the chip and software (wiring/antenna connection/configuration is irrelevant) perhaps there is a way to enable the DGPS mode? If so, I'm sure we would all see MUCH better position and accuracy information.
WAAS probably requires modifications to the host processing binary (SIRFHost)
BTW, our chip is a GSD4t, not 4e.
I was having problems with my gps losing its lock for the longest time, i got a replacement phone and it started doing it again AFTER root. Im thinking some app might be causing the issue. I read somewhere that ROM Manager can cause issues. I deleted it and so far my gps has been working. I am really baffled on to what can be causing it.
stalked_r/t said:
ride home was flawless. If ride to work tomorrow is flawless, I'll root and flash.
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Its the case man. Great looking case, but kills the cell signal and terrible GPS. Mine went back after 3 days.
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Yep. Ride into work today lost signal once. After letting it sit for a couple minutes, I rebooted. After reboot it worked flawlessly. Definitely the case at this point. Putting Root/Kernel/ROM on it today and seeing how the drive home is. If it's good, then the case can be tossed and I'll find a different one.
Entropy512 said:
WAAS probably requires modifications to the host processing binary (SIRFHost)
BTW, our chip is a GSD4t, not 4e.
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Good catch. Interesting. Haven't checked out the sources, but I'm assuming all the GPS binaries are blobs? And source is not available?
Always wondered why mobile phones never have WAAS support... course then again, if the hardware was developed in Korea, that would make a little bit of sense. Seeing as there isn't WAAS coverage there, although I do believe there is an alternate DGPS solution for Asia.

Mic on phone not working. Help please?

Hi.
The mic on my phone has stopped working so no one can here me now during a phone call. I've tried a factory reset and re-installing my current rom checkrom v6. Still the problem is there.
It seems to me to be a hardware problem. My niece dropped my phone onto a dinner plate and got tomato sauce on it. Not a lot but some of it got into the speaker and micro usb port. I cleaned it immediately but looks like it's caused some damage.
Can anyone offer me a solution to this problem.
I'm thinking I'll need to replace the mic on the phone. Can anyone link me to a guide on how to do this? I'll probably replace the usb port as I've had issues with that for ages now.
Thanks
If you are not a person who is able to fix phones and such then I'd advise you to simply send the phone back to your carrier and tell them to fix it. (if you've still got your warranty)
Unlucky :/ Maybe next time don't let your niece near the phone within a 5 mile radius?
Have a good day and good luck with the phone :]
beston94 said:
If you are not a person who is able to fix phones and such then I'd advise you to simply send the phone back to your carrier and tell them to fix it. (if you've still got your warranty)
Unlucky :/ Maybe next time don't let your niece near the phone within a 5 mile radius?
Have a good day and good luck with the phone :]
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I'm on pay as you go and I bought the phone second hand about 7 month ago so sending it back not really an option.
Just to update, when I turn on the speaker function when in call the mic works fine.
johnbhoyc said:
Can anyone offer me a solution to this problem.
I'm thinking I'll need to replace the mic on the phone. Can anyone link me to a guide on how to do this? I'll probably replace the usb port as I've had issues with that for ages now.
Thanks
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I believe the part for the USB port will have the lower mic attached anyways. I think you're looking for part number GH59-10949A. You can find service manuals for various Samsung phones on www.samfirmware.com. But you'll need to register on that site (it's free) to download them. Passwords on the archive files are "samfirmware.com".
johnbhoyc said:
I'm on pay as you go and I bought the phone second hand about 7 month ago so sending it back not really an option.
Just to update, when I turn on the speaker function when in call the mic works fine.
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That's because the speakerphone function uses the top mic, not the bottom mic.
ctomgee said:
I believe the part for the USB port will have the lower mic attached anyways. I think you're looking for part number GH59-10949A. You can find service manuals for various Samsung phones on www.samfirmware.com. But you'll need to register on that site (it's free) to download them. Passwords on the archive files are "samfirmware.com".
That's because the speakerphone function uses the top mic, not the bottom mic.
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Thanks for your reply Very helpfull.
Can anyone recommend somewhere to buy the usb port. Preferably UK based for speedy delivery.
Thanks
Got part delivered and fitted it today. Everything working fine now. USB problem I've
Got part delivered and fitted it today. Everything working fine now. USB problem I've been having for a while fixed as well.
Only problem I encountered was one of the screw heads was worn away. Had to drill it out but got their in the end.
Thanks for your help folks
johnbhoyc said:
Got part delivered and fitted it today. Everything working fine now. USB problem I've been having for a while fixed as well.
Only problem I encountered was one of the screw heads was worn away. Had to drill it out but got their in the end.
Thanks for your help folks
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Glad you got it worked out.
If you're interested, to help with protecting my USB port, I ordered some of these. They come 3 covers per order.
(I am in no way affiliated with this company...)
I decided it was prudent after reading all the horror stories on the forums about USB ports failing/overvoltage warnings/computers not detecting/chargers not registering.

[Q] Have weak signal after repairing SOLVED

hello to comunity,
i have the samsung galaxy s 2 gt-u9100 mobile phone and everything was perfect untill i opened the phone, the phone has problem at the back housing so i ordered a new one and replaced it, i made everything with caution and slowly. while i changed the back housing i opened the phone and everything was good untill i saw that there was no signal. i did it 2g and i see that there is onlu on raw ar the signal and sometimes none.
i opened the phone again and checked everything but saw nothing wrong. as i searched i saw that the GSM is this part and the cable that connects the antenna is this one . both of them are perfect.
i lost all my day trying with that , at start i had SlimRom 2 then i put the stock one via Odin but it didnt boot, stocked in the boot image (didnt wanted to search why ) so i flashed kernel again and then NeatRom, still no signal and then i went back to SlimRom. but the problem as i saw is not from the rom .
if anyone knows about that thing and tell me what to do i would be gladfull .
That bit is the antenna c/w speaker.There is a thread related to this about usb replacement.People mention about similar problems when they remove the antenna cable.
Heres a pic of spares I have,and look at the gold contacts on the antenna,as they need to be in good contact with the ones on the usb board.Maybe its that,or maybe new antenna is faulty.Try your old one in to eliminate that though.It could even be the antenna cable.
The thread is by someone whos name is Dugud,or similar
Edit:was close,this is it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47066876
theunderling said:
That bit is the antenna c/w speaker.There is a thread related to this about usb replacement.People mention about similar problems when they remove the antenna cable.
Heres a pic of spares I have,and look at the gold contacts on the antenna,as they need to be in good contact with the ones on the usb board.Maybe its that,or maybe new antenna is faulty.Try your old one in to eliminate that though.It could even be the antenna cable.
The thread is by someone whos name is Dugud,or similar
Edit:was close,this is it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47066876
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thanks a lot for your reply my friend, my problem is not with the usb think i thing, it must be with the cable or i dunno. i had verry good signal and everything was working, now just the signal got verry low.
exept from buying repair part you say there is no fix right?
leonleonleon said:
thanks a lot for your reply my friend, my problem is not with the usb think i thing, it must be with the cable or i dunno. i had verry good signal and everything was working, now just the signal got verry low.
exept from buying repair part you say there is no fix right?
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maybe take it to a shop with someone who knows what they are doing. I just had to do this with mine, I considered trying to get parts cheap and diy then I considered how much time and stress it could cause me = not worth it. It cost me £25 to have usb replaced, second thing I checked was the signal as I see many having problems with this - outcome is my phone is working sweet again and it only took a couple of hours of my time :cyclops:
Best of luck
Did you read that thread?.I seen a post on here once where someone said they removed that white antenna cable,then refitted it,and lost signal.Then they bought a new cable,which solved the problem.
Also, you dont know the condition of the part you changed,and theoretically you are meant to use anti static wristband and mat when your touching sensitive electronic components......lol
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theunderling said:
Did you read that thread?.I seen a post on here once where someone said they removed that white antenna cable,then refitted it,and lost signal.Then they bought a new cable,which solved the problem.
Also, you dont know the condition of the part you changed,and theoretically you are meant to use anti static wristband and mat when your touching sensitive electronic components......lol
Sent from my SM-T210 using xda premium
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I finaly solved after 10 hours of trying. a did the patern that this guy did and it worked perfectly, but i still cant underestand what made this problem.
http://youtu.be/2Y6k5t1f7Qk

Not detecting SIM card, WiFi not working

Hello everybody,
I made this account specifically for this one problem, and i don't belive i've seen it before on this site. Alright, let me cut to the chase:I've had a Galaxy Trend plus for about a year and a half now (an oldie but a goodie) and i use it as my daily driver, mostly for emulators and WiFi. With one of those two knocked out, i'm desperate for help.
Okay, so all of a sudden it displays the no connection icon like a crossed circle thingy, and whenever i turn on WiFi, it won't detect it even 10 inches from the router. I've never had this error and i'm pretty concerned. My SIM card works on my friends phone, however. I've looked everything there is to look up, and i've done everything software-wise , which makes me think it's a hardware problem. If it is, is it under the warranty or not?If I can't make phone calls or browse the Interwebs, the phone is pretty much useless. If you guys have any suggestions or ideas, please help out an old Android fanboy
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Axel Gaming said:
Hello everybody,
I made this account specifically for this one problem, and i don't belive i've seen it before on this site. Alright, let me cut to the chase:I've had a Galaxy Trend plus for about a year and a half now (an oldie but a goodie) and i use it as my daily driver, mostly for emulators and WiFi. With one of those two knocked out, i'm desperate for help.
Okay, so all of a sudden it displays the no connection icon like a crossed circle thingy, and whenever i turn on WiFi, it won't detect it even 10 inches from the router. I've never had this error and i'm pretty concerned. My SIM card works on my friends phone, however. I've looked everything there is to look up, and i've done everything software-wise , which makes me think it's a hardware problem. If it is, is it under the warranty or not?If I can't make phone calls or browse the Interwebs, the phone is pretty much useless. If you guys have any suggestions or ideas, please help out an old Android fanboy
Sent from my HP Probook 6450b
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Reflash your device. Its easy
look here for STOCK rom for your device.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/
and here you are youtube GUIDE
https://youtu.be/diXLl8yxc0Y
good luck
Hvala
Paget96 said:
Reflash your device. Its easy
look here for STOCK rom for your device.
and here you are youtube GUIDE
good luck
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hvala, videcu sta i kako i reci cu ti ako mi treba nesto

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