I've been wearing a Tizen converted Gear 1 for a year or two. I like it, but am considering the $200 groupon Gear S deal to upgrade to the S for the bigger screen, memory, and CPU. I was wondering if the S will work okay without a service plan.. Checking around with Google seemed to indicate that it would but I figured I would check with actual owners, just to be sure.
If you want to use it connected via Bluetooth to your smartphone it will work perfectly.
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Thanks! That's precisely what I'm hoping to do!
That's how I use mine
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Wait for some more days and get gear A/Orbis.
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I've been wearing a Tizen converted Gear 1 for a year or two. I like it, but am considering the $200 groupon Gear S deal to upgrade to the S for the bigger screen, memory, and CPU. I was wondering if the S will work okay without a service plan.. Checking around with Google seemed to indicate that it would but I figured I would check with actual owners, just to be sure.
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Answer is yes. Some preinstalled apps won't work without pairing with Galaxy S3 or newer Samsung cell phone. It can be used w ith or without plan, and with or without pairing phone.
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As you guys know or should know the Galaxy Note II is considered a smart phone on Verizon's network. They charge a $40 Monthly Line Access Per Device. I have de-activated my call/text and get data only at a data only rate plus smartphone fee. ie $40 (smartphone) + $60 (10GB) Share Everything Options for Data Devices vs having $40 (smartphone) + $100 (10GB) Unlimited Talk & Text + Shared Data . So that being said I was wondering If some one could show me how to change my device id, model number, baseband, or hardware number. What ever they look at to identify my device as Galaxy Note II. I like to change it to CLONE it into "Verizon Tablet Device" if you will. In case you still dont get what i would like to see solved its that I want Verizon to recognize my Galaxy Note II as a current available tablet on there plans. ie display to Verizon that my phone "is" a Galaxy Note 10.1, Galaxy Tab, etc I think you get the picture. I only need the data and gps to work if thats even relevant. I know it can be done. Its XDA after all Thanks guys ahead of time!
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As you guys know or should know the Galaxy Note II is considered a smart phone on Verizon's network. They charge a $40 Monthly Line Access Per Device. I have de-activated my call/text and get data only at a data only rate plus smartphone fee. ie $40 (smartphone) + $60 (10GB) Share Everything Options for Data Devices vs having $40 (smartphone) + $100 (10GB) Unlimited Talk & Text + Shared Data . So that being said I was wondering If some one could show me how to change my device id, model number, baseband, or hardware number. What ever they look at to identify my device as Galaxy Note II. I like to change it to CLONE it into "Verizon Tablet Device" if you will. In case you still dont get what i would like to see solved its that I want Verizon to recognize my Galaxy Note II as a current available tablet on there plans. ie display to Verizon that my phone "is" a Galaxy Note 10.1, Galaxy Tab, etc I think you get the picture. I only need the data and gps to work if thats even relevant. I know it can be done. Its XDA after all Thanks guys ahead of time!
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I don't know much about modifying the low level stuff, but couldn't you just get a SIM card activated for a tablet and put that in the Note II? I've never done it, but I have heard that people have swapped SIMs between phones and jetpacks/tablets all the time to us unlimited data on other devices. Maybe that would work here too? Again, not too knowledgeable here, just throwing that lead out there...
Edit your build.prop, I would imagine. Replace all references to the Note 2 to the Note 10.1 tablet, or whatever that thing is called.
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Also, I see can see this leading to all sorts of incompatibility issues. I don't know.
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That are going off the MEID from their master database, so you'd have to change that (which isn't discussed here since it's illegal).
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That are going off the MEID from their matter database, so you'd have to change that (which isn't discussed here since it's illegal).
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I don't know much about modifying the low level stuff, but couldn't you just get a SIM card activated for a tablet and put that in the Note II? I've never done it, but I have heard that people have swapped SIMs between phones and jetpacks/tablets all the time to us unlimited data on other devices. Maybe that would work here too? Again, not too knowledgeable here, just throwing that lead out there...
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I don't believe swapping the sim won't solve the issue. I think they know what device is being used unless the device is branded into the sim which I highly doubt but thanks.
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I don't believe swapping the sim won't solve the issue. I think they know what device is being used unless the device is branded into the sim which I highly doubt but thanks.
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You're correct it won't work. Verizon and all carriers for that matter identify the device being used by the imei. So to do what the OP wants requires changing the imei. Which as mentioned is illegal and can't be discussed on xda.
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Any chance of Samsung making a Bluetooth only version of this? Maybe it could be a bit thinner since it wouldn't need a sim.
I really like this watch but I don't need it's 3G functionality.
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Any chance of Samsung making a Bluetooth only version of this? Maybe it could be a bit thinner since it wouldn't need a sim.
I really like this watch but I don't need it's 3G functionality.
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that would be nice. from what I can see at this point there's only one version and it's going to at&t. I was hoping t-mo would get it.
So I would need 2 cellphone lines? One for my phone other for watch ?but yet somehow the watch can see messages on my phone?
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So I would need 2 cellphone lines? One for my phone other for watch ?but yet somehow the watch can see messages on my phone?
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I assume that would be the case. I don't see the point in that myself. I just want to be about to check notifications, reply to messages, control my music and see some basic information. All of that should work just fine using just Bluetooth.
In Japan, the model without 3G version will be released.
https://translate.google.co.jp/tran...://japan.cnet.com/mobile/35054196/&edit-text=
You would need to set up the Gear S with the phone for the first time after that you can forward your calls to the Gear S but to download you still need the phone which is pointless. I will just wait for someone to sell it on Craigslist and I will just use the bluetooth only side I agree the 3G I don't need. At&T, Sprint and a few others will have it. It's basically charging the same price as a Tablet plan its just a smartwatch instead
Hello, I own a Galaxy Note PRO 12.2 LTE but it is a bit inconvenience to use it to make phone calls sometimes. I am considering to buy the Gear S making/receiving phone calls and also as a device to notify me to check my Note PRO 12.2 whenever somebody sends me message. (Easier to type on a large device.)
I heard that the speaker of the phone is located at the back of the watch. Since that area touches the wrist when the user is wearing it, I wonder if it makes it difficult to hear the voice of the other person. Also, do other people hear the user's voice clearly? Is there any noise cancellation system? Any experience appreciated. Thanks.
The device is not out yet so we really cant answer your question. I dont think you can use the Gear S as a stand alone phone 100% of the time though. Watching the intro video it showed calls being forwarded to the Gear S. That makes me think that you have to have your main phone on.
Did you say you can make calls from your LTE Note Pro? If so I would like to know how to do this. That would be a nice set up then if you can use that as your phone.
I thought that it functioned as a standalone phone? Sure you can connect them and call though your phone, but that is not what I would want.
I have owned one since 15 October. I was fortunate to get a free unit but had to pay full price for a Note 4.
I am using it with a multi-sim service, ie 1 phone number, multiple sims. This is so I can share my data quota and still have both my Note 4 and Gear S active without the need for a wifi hotspot.
The primary SIM is on the Gear S, and it is only tethered to the Note 4 if I want to download apps or updates. I make and receive calls on the Gear S WITHOUT needing a separate phone, but I am using a bluetooth headset with it.
If you don't use a headset, the speaker is serviceable in a quiet room or if you're in the car, since it's somewhat muffled. One odd behavior I found is that even though you have a headset, it defaults to the built in speaker all the time. I have to quickly anwer the call and tap the headset icon to switch it to the headset.
As to battery life, at best it lasts from about 9am to 6pm, at worst, with several calls, it lasts till around 3pm.
You COULD actually adjust the strap and wear BOTH the charger and watch together, having a huge bulky item on your wrist hahahaha, but it will extend your battery by at least a couple more hours.
I will be happy to answer any other questions.
Have you tried to use a Web browser? If so can you practically do some surfing?
Are those scratches or smudges on the face of the watch? I thought the watch came with gorilla glass. If not, I'll be purchasing a screen protector for the watch.
You can check the [REVIEW] thread for the Gear S and more pics in my G+ post link right at the top of the first post.
Those are smudges from somewhat sweaty hand :π
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The device is not out yet so we really cant answer your question. I dont think you can use the Gear S as a stand alone phone 100% of the time though. Watching the intro video it showed calls being forwarded to the Gear S. That makes me think that you have to have your main phone on.
Did you say you can make calls from your LTE Note Pro? If so I would like to know how to do this. That would be a nice set up then if you can use that as your phone.
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i used to use my Ipad as a phone with a App called Line2.
I have used Google Voice, Talk a Tone and Textfree with voice on my Samsung WiFi tablets in the past I was able to make and receive calls on my tablet. I have the tab S LTE now I'm hoping to pair the 2 tab S and gear S so I can have one simple card for the both and keep my Note 4 separate
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I have owned one since 15 October. I was fortunate to get a free unit but had to pay full price for a Note 4.
I am using it with a multi-sim service, ie 1 phone number, multiple sims. This is so I can share my data quota and still have both my Note 4 and Gear S active without the need for a wifi hotspot.
The primary SIM is on the Gear S, and it is only tethered to the Note 4 if I want to download apps or updates. I make and receive calls on the Gear S WITHOUT needing a separate phone, but I am using a bluetooth headset with it.
If you don't use a headset, the speaker is serviceable in a quiet room or if you're in the car, since it's somewhat muffled. One odd behavior I found is that even though you have a headset, it defaults to the built in speaker all the time. I have to quickly anwer the call and tap the headset icon to switch it to the headset.
As to battery life, at best it lasts from about 9am to 6pm, at worst, with several calls, it lasts till around 3pm.
You COULD actually adjust the strap and wear BOTH the charger and watch together, having a huge bulky item on your wrist hahahaha, but it will extend your battery by at least a couple more hours.
I will be happy to answer any other questions.
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Do you know which features from the Gear S i wont be able to use if i only have the Gear S connected via bluetooth?
I ask because i emailed my carrier sprint and they told i can buy the Gear S out right without a sim card but wont be able to use some features the Gear S as to offer.
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Do you know which features from the Gear S i wont be able to use if i only have the Gear S connected via bluetooth?
I ask because i emailed my carrier sprint and they told i can buy the Gear S out right without a sim card but wont be able to use some features the Gear S as to offer.
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+1 I also have Sprint what features will we miss since it is an uicc card which is not a real SIM card. I had planned to but it outright like the above poster
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+1 I also have Sprint what features will we miss since it is an uicc card which is not a real SIM card. I had planned to but it outright like the above poster
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sprint didn't emailed me back with a answer.
Maybe he was just saying that so i can buy with a plan.
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sprint didn't emailed me back with a answer.
Maybe he was just saying that so i can buy with a plan.
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Oh OK I don't want a 2 Year contract just for this gear S when I payed in full my Note 4 if you can keep me updated if Sprint decides to email you back that would be cool. I may just have to hold on to my gear 2 until someone sells the gear S on Craigslist/Swappa
Sure NP.
I got my gear 1 from swappa good deals there.
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Sure NP.
I got my gear 1 from swappa good deals there.
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I got my gear 1 from there as well but this one requiring a sim card or uicc card does this mean we have to have a separate number for the gear S on Sprint because it has 3G only. I heard at&t/t-mobile can use the sim card with the same number. But the uicc card is tired to one device only I wonder if this will change somehow
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I have owned one since 15 October. I was fortunate to get a free unit but had to pay full price for a Note 4.
I am using it with a multi-sim service, ie 1 phone number, multiple sims. This is so I can share my data quota and still have both my Note 4 and Gear S active without the need for a wifi hotspot.
The primary SIM is on the Gear S, and it is only tethered to the Note 4 if I want to download apps or updates. I make and receive calls on the Gear S WITHOUT needing a separate phone, but I am using a bluetooth headset with it.
If you don't use a headset, the speaker is serviceable in a quiet room or if you're in the car, since it's somewhat muffled. One odd behavior I found is that even though you have a headset, it defaults to the built in speaker all the time. I have to quickly anwer the call and tap the headset icon to switch it to the headset.
As to battery life, at best it lasts from about 9am to 6pm, at worst, with several calls, it lasts till around 3pm.
You COULD actually adjust the strap and wear BOTH the charger and watch together, having a huge bulky item on your wrist hahahaha, but it will extend your battery by at least a couple more hours.
I will be happy to answer any other questions.
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Does the mini opera browser will work just using bluetooth connection not with a sim card?
rmont23 said:
Do you know which features from the Gear S i wont be able to use if i only have the Gear S connected via bluetooth?
I ask because i emailed my carrier sprint and they told i can buy the Gear S out right without a sim card but wont be able to use some features the Gear S as to offer.
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I think except for actual calling and SMS, there shouldn't be anything you can't do as a tethered device. In fact you can even make "proxy" calls and sms since it is treated as an extension of your phone when connected via bluetooth.
Ok thank you.
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Can't wait to get this lovely watch in a couple of weeks. I am still on the fence whether or not I will get an extra sim card for the watch. I have a Note 4 which is ALWAYS with me, so I am not sure how useful it will be to have a standalone sim in the GS. Even when I go mountain biking, I have a very secure holder for the Note 4 on the bike frame. Do i really need a sim?
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Can't wait to get this lovely watch in a couple of weeks. I am still on the fence whether or not I will get an extra sim card for the watch. I have a Note 4 which is ALWAYS with me, so I am not sure how useful it will be to have a standalone sim in the GS. Even when I go mountain biking, I have a very secure holder for the Note 4 on the bike frame. Do i really need a sim?
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I see you not from the states......but for me I went with ATT since it was the cheapest out of the 4 major carriers and all I was going be connected was via bt to my Sprint Note2. So if you are going to do the same and connect BT just get the lowest priced GS. "Sim or No Sim"
I might in the future have my brother put the GS on his att plan and just pay him on the side for usage, but that is just a thought if I really wanted to go solo for some reason. Here in the states, Att has a way better coverage then Sprint, so when I am out of Sprint range the GS will have Att coverage for emergencies..e.tc.....or need to get a hold of someone.
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I see you not from the states......but for me I went with ATT since it was the cheapest out of the 4 major carriers and all I was going be connected was via bt to my Sprint Note2. So if you are going to do the same and connect BT just get the lowest priced GS. "Sim or No Sim"
I might in the future have my brother put the GS on his att plan and just pay him on the side for usage, but that is just a thought if I really wanted to go solo for some reason. Here in the states, Att has a way better coverage then Sprint, so when I am out of Sprint range the GS will have Att coverage for emergencies..e.tc.....or need to get a hold of someone.
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Having two different carriers for coverage in dead spots is a lovely idea. That is a great selling point for having a sim in the GS. I never realized there was a no-sim version available. However, since I will be receiving this as a gift, I will most probably be getting the sim version. Is there any diminished functionality by not having a sim (provided phone is in range)?
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Having two different carriers for coverage in dead spots is a lovely idea. That is a great selling point for having a sim in the GS. I never realized there was a no-sim version available. However, since I will be receiving this as a gift, I will most probably be getting the sim version. Is there any diminished functionality by not having a sim (provided phone is in range)?
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No diminished functionality with the phone with you and no activated sim in the watch that I know of. At all.
Sim or No Sim...... GS are the same, the only reason we have both version is because GSM carriers are "Sim" and CDMA carriers are "Non Sim".
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Sim or No Sim...... GS are the same, the only reason we have both version is because GSM carriers are "Sim" and CDMA carriers are "Non Sim".
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Ok I get it now.
ozaghloul said:
Can't wait to get this lovely watch in a couple of weeks. I am still on the fence whether or not I will get an extra sim card for the watch. I have a Note 4 which is ALWAYS with me, so I am not sure how useful it will be to have a standalone sim in the GS. Even when I go mountain biking, I have a very secure holder for the Note 4 on the bike frame. Do i really need a sim?
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I have a sim card (T-mobile) But I doubt I'd use it it's just an emergency number nice to have never know when you may use it. You don't need one if you buy it outright you'll always have the option to add a sim later on
I went with a payg sim from h20. Costs me 10 dollars for 90 days just as a backup.
ozaghloul said:
Can't wait to get this lovely watch in a couple of weeks. I am still on the fence whether or not I will get an extra sim card for the watch. I have a Note 4 which is ALWAYS with me, so I am not sure how useful it will be to have a standalone sim in the GS. Even when I go mountain biking, I have a very secure holder for the Note 4 on the bike frame. Do i really need a sim?
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I don't think it's a question of "need", as much as a... "nice-to-have".
I have the T-Mobile version w\sim ($5\mo.) I also have a Note 4 which is usually in my grasp. BUT...There's times when the separate line has it's benefits.
e.g. 1. Walk away from my desk,leaving my phone behind.] The phone instantly forwards to the GS when it senses it's out of Bluetooth range or not connected to WiFi. (never miss a call...:laugh:)
e.g. 2. Streaming music without your phone. With T-Mobile's free music streaming, you can stream music without incurring any data charges. (Milk,Pandora,etc) GS doesn't support Pandora yet Connect a bluetooth headset or speaker to the GS and leave your phone behind (if you like).
If you're a techie to any degree...And you obviously are (Note 4\GS owner)...You'll find lots of reasons to have it. :good::good::good:
I am with Tmobile, and in the USA. The sim/plan/line only cost me $5/month. That was a no brainer for me!
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ozaghloul said:
Can't wait to get this lovely watch in a couple of weeks. I am still on the fence whether or not I will get an extra sim card for the watch. I have a Note 4 which is ALWAYS with me, so I am not sure how useful it will be to have a standalone sim in the GS. Even when I go mountain biking, I have a very secure holder for the Note 4 on the bike frame. Do i really need a sim?
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I am on 2 wheels 98% of the time. Motorcycle and bicycle. As with my Note 3 and Gear 2, the Note 3 is either in a belly bag or back pack.. Gear on my wrist.. Note 4 and Gear S will be same way.. I had a get off on the bicycle a couple months ago, and by luck I didn't have the Gear 2 on, and I had my Note 3 in a back pack. At about 25mph I signal to move over to another lane, my bad luck was in doing a head check on the lane I am entering and making a hand signal with one hand, and one hand on the bar, right as I made the signal, I hit a min-pothole, with one hand on the bar, and at 25mph, I couldn't recover. I went down fast and hard(helmet on too).. I came out with some bruises. The bike, bartape got torn and some minor scratches. BUT, I was wearing my black Pulsar Chronograph watch. That took a scaring across the face. I would hate to see what would have happened to my Note 3 if it was bar mounted. Going to brave it with the Gear S just try to be aware of potholes..
I went with the SIM, which is one of the main selling points for me. Not as much for the phone as the data. For $5/month, I felt it was a no-brainer. More than that and I might have had second thoughts. It has already been quite useful to me, mainly since my GS5 can automatically send notifications to the phone when it's not connected via BT. I actually forgot my phone today when we left the house, but had the watch on. I got all my email alerts, etc., which was quite nice. I also leave my phone on my desk at work often, and when I get about half way through our building it switches to cell data. All in all, I'm happy with that feature.
I don't have a sim in mine.
I used to have the Gear 1 and basically have just replaced the Gear 1.
I always have my phone with me, so BT is not a problem.
Also, I like that it reminds me if I leave my phone somewhere as it vibrates and notifies me when it loses the BT connection.
I hardly make any actual calls on my phone anyway, maybe if I did, having the stand alone phone might be handy. From what I understand, phone calls using the watch sim sound better because it is not going via BT.
The main things I am using are notifications, controlling the music on my phone, checking my schedule and the fitness tracking.
I have searched the internet high and low, but I guess not well enough because I can't find the Gear S anywhere on the T-mobile site or any site for that matter, Refurbished or New. Is there a reason? Im guessing I should just call T-Mobile and ask where I can buy.. Why is it so hard to find? Obviously its almost 2 years old and yes the new S2 watch came out, but there are absolutely NO options to purchase at all on the T-Mobile Website, with the exception of a t-mobile page that comes up in a google search saying "buy now" with a picture of the Gear S, but when you click on the Buy Now button, it redirects you to another page. Are they just hard to come by?
Swappa.com but I'm sure it'll be used
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The Canadian version from telus should be fine on the tmobile network as their phones are the closest to ours.
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I have searched the internet high and low, but I guess not well enough because I can't find the Gear S anywhere on the T-mobile site or any site for that matter, Refurbished or New. Is there a reason? Im guessing I should just call T-Mobile and ask where I can buy.. Why is it so hard to find? Obviously its almost 2 years old and yes the new S2 watch came out, but there are absolutely NO options to purchase at all on the T-Mobile Website, with the exception of a t-mobile page that comes up in a google search saying "buy now" with a picture of the Gear S, but when you click on the Buy Now button, it redirects you to another page. Are they just hard to come by?
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I bought an AT&T at a very good price off Ebay, and have been using it on T-Mobile without a problem. I have used with a SIM as a stand-alone phone, and without a SIM as a remote control for my Samsung phone. Most of the time I will use it without the SIM.
Yea, I went on swappa and there was nothing. I ended up finding a pretty nice one on Ebay. I went into tmobile and they said no stores will carry it anymore because it's discontinued.
I got an Gear S over the weekend from Rakuten. It is new, open box, for AT&T, but is unlocked. I am using it with a Tmobile prepaid sim for calls only and it works fine. I don't have data, but I do get the 4g signal indicator.
http://www.rakuten.com/prod/2749269...094&siteID=lw9MynSeamY-8CvEVOou.eoxH4afNdzdvg
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My stores still have in stock
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