Hi, I'm new here!
Today I made some improvements to my phone: GT-S5570i (Gingerbread 2.3.6, original rom): I removed all Gapps and my phone now is very fast, compared to the past (since is rooted I also disabled useless apps at startup using Startup Manager); the average amount of free RAM, now is between 150 and 130 MB, and since I have installed all my apps on the ext sd card, I have a free space (on the internal storage) of 100MB.
Well, as I've said, I removed all Gapps, because I install/update apps using MoboRobo on my computer, and I don't also need to manage my Gmail account from the phone. I'm okay without Gapps. But inside MoboRobo, in the "System Apps" window I can see that some reference to Google is still present:
Google Partner Setup, Google Services Framework and Google Backup Transport.
From what I can understand, the latter - Google Backup Transport - should be needed for phone backup reasons (but, again: I do backups of my phone using MoboRobo); and the other two services? I noticed that if i kill the Google Services Framework and then I turn on the GPS (using GPS Essentials) the service will start again, maybe because, as I noticed, GPS Essentials relies on G-Maps? But I also uninstalled G-Maps! Is the same if i disable this service using Startup Manager: at the next boot, Google Services Framework is still present in the processes list.
Can I uninstall these three remaining services from my phone, or I risk to break some features? As I've said I'm okay without Google apps/features on my phone.
Thank you.
MrGiova said:
Hi, I'm new here!
Today I made some improvements to my phone: GT-S5570i (Gingerbread 2.3.6, original rom): I removed all Gapps and my phone now is very fast, compared to the past (since is rooted I also disabled useless apps at startup using Startup Manager); the average amount of free RAM, now is between 150 and 130 MB, and since I have installed all my apps on the ext sd card, I have a free space (on the internal storage) of 100MB.
Well, as I've said, I removed all Gapps, because I install/update apps using MoboRobo on my computer, and I don't also need to manage my Gmail account from the phone. I'm okay without Gapps. But inside MoboRobo, in the "System Apps" window I can see that some reference to Google is still present:
Google Partner Setup, Google Services Framework and Google Backup Transport.
From what I can understand, the latter - Google Backup Transport - should be needed for phone backup reasons (but, again: I do backups of my phone using MoboRobo); and the other two services? I noticed that if i kill the Google Services Framework and then I turn on the GPS (using GPS Essentials) the service will start again, maybe because, as I noticed, GPS Essentials relies on G-Maps? But I also uninstalled G-Maps! Is the same if i disable this service using Startup Manager: at the next boot, Google Services Framework is still present in the processes list.
Can I uninstall these three remaining services from my phone, or I risk to break some features? As I've said I'm okay without Google apps/features on my phone.
Thank you.
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you can remove all google stuff
Paget96 said:
you can remove all google stuff
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Hi Paget96,
Thank you very much for your precise and synthetic reply
I apologize for being stickler, but I am very scrupulous: the three mentioned G-Services, for which reason are present on the phone, exactly? Just for the G-apps? There's someone else which has totally eradicated Google from the phone?
Kind regards.
MrGiova said:
Hi Paget96,
Thank you very much for your precise and synthetic reply
I apologize for being stickler, but I am very scrupulous: the three mentioned G-Services, for which reason are present on the phone, exactly? Just for the G-apps? There's someone else which has totally eradicated Google from the phone?
Kind regards.
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Yes, thats all google stuff All is just for gapps.
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When I install a new ROM it starts to install all apps that I have been using with my gmail account previously installed. Super convenient! I got everything back in a short period of time, without the agreement forevery seperated app. I can not imagine a better batch installation.
But, sometimes a few fail (or a lot) because I'm also messing with the googleservices for other things right after the clean install.
My question is simple, how do I set the play store, my account or whatever again to install all the apps I had already? how I recall that automatic batch again?
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If you're messing with things I guess you can't install all apps you had. If this would work then you could reinstall cracked apps and such aswell and that is what google doesn't want
bruetje said:
If you're messing with things I guess you can't install all apps you had. If this would work then you could reinstall cracked apps and such aswell and that is what google doesn't want
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first of al it's not necessarily me that's messing, but also the automated setup of the phone itself. Out of nothing 50 of the 200 applications fail to install. (the triangle warningsign in the notificationbar). Those are not illigal aptoide apps but original free playstore apps.
AFAIK there is no way to recall the batch installation you might be better of trying to recreate it again
guys did anyone remove any of these apps and knows that they are safe to remove 100%. I am on an unofficial build of cm10.1 rom?
Cell Broadcasts
com.android.backuconfirm
com.android.sharedstoragebackup
com.google.android.voicesearch
com.android.smspush
Google Backup Transport
Google Partner Setup
Nfc Service
Service Mode 1.0
Im debloating my rom further just want to see if its safe to remove these (no fc or any other problems) (uninstall via titanium backup pro), Im not really sure what they are or what they do but they keep running in background. Thanks
I remove NFC service and voice search (amongst others), Iirc, I used to remove backup transport and partner set up with no probs on cm7, not tried the latter on 10.
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I remove NFC service and voice search (amongst others), Iirc, I used to remove backup transport and partner set up with no probs on cm7
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so now on cm10.1 you only remove nfc service and voice search?
btw removing nfc service will make nfc not work completely?
Do u know what each of these removal will affect exactly? what will not work? thanks
Is there somewhere a list where I can read all these stuff? I tried searching, found some lists but no explanation at all.
I remove between 25 and 30 system apks depending which rom I flash. I can't remember them without seeing them.
Check out slim, there's quite a few less.
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I remove between 25 and 30 system apks depending which rom I flash. I can't remember them without seeing them.
Check out slim, there's quite a few less.
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Do you remove the system app:
com.android.smspush
Im not sure if its an actual visible application, I just see it in my task manager as always consuming about 12Mb ram
I like to freeze apps (not removing them, so that if anything goes wrong i can just unfreeze them)
-com.android.cellbroadcastreceiver (cell broadcasts)
-com.google.android.inputmethod.dictionarypack (dictionary provider) : i never use the dictionary, so i don't need it running 20mbs in the background!
-com.android.providers.userdictionary:
-com.android.email & com.android.exchange (i use gmail so i don't need stock email services)
-com.google.android.backup (backup transport): this app runs like 50mb in the background, ever since i am on custom roms i freeze it without any problems
-com.google.android.partnersetup
-google search
-launcher (i use novalauncher instead)
-picasa uploader
-search applications provider: i dont know its use but i freeze it without any problems
-sim toolkit
-com.android.talk (talk) : i dont use it, i dont need it running in the backgroun
-com.android.voicedialer
-com.google.android.syncadapters.bookmarks (bookmarks sync): i think it syncs the bookmarks in the stock browser, but i use chrome. so dont need it.
these are pretty much the processes that i freeze on every custom rom that i use (either cm10.1 or sammy based).
Some of the services are essential to some people (like talk or dictionary), so freezing them is up to personal preference.
I also use the greenify app to hibernate processes such as maps or youtube that constantly run in the background with no reason, even when you dont use them.
Freezing these apps saves me about 200mb of ram. So multitasking is a bit easier on this ram-troubled device.
nickefor said:
I like to freeze apps (not removing them, so that if anything goes wrong i can just unfreeze them)
-com.android.cellbroadcastreceiver (cell broadcasts)
-com.google.android.inputmethod.dictionarypack (dictionary provider) : i never use the dictionary, so i don't need it running 20mbs in the background!
-com.android.providers.userdictionary:
-com.android.email & com.android.exchange (i use gmail so i don't need stock email services)
-com.google.android.backup (backup transport): this app runs like 50mb in the background, ever since i am on custom roms i freeze it without any problems
-com.google.android.partnersetup
-google search
-launcher (i use novalauncher instead)
-picasa uploader
-search applications provider: i dont know its use but i freeze it without any problems
-sim toolkit
-com.android.talk (talk) : i dont use it, i dont need it running in the backgroun
-com.android.voicedialer
-com.google.android.syncadapters.bookmarks (bookmarks sync): i think it syncs the bookmarks in the stock browser, but i use chrome. so dont need it.
these are pretty much the processes that i freeze on every custom rom that i use (either cm10.1 or sammy based).
Some of the services are essential to some people (like talk or dictionary), so freezing them is up to personal preference.
I also use the greenify app to hibernate processes such as maps or youtube that constantly run in the background with no reason, even when you dont use them.
Freezing these apps saves me about 200mb of ram. So multitasking is a bit easier on this ram-troubled device.
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Thanks man this helps.
Do you know anything about these in specific? They also run in background but I don't know their exact use.
com.android.smspush
Network Location (com.google.process.location)
Google One Time Init
Google Account Manager
Package Access Helper
ayoubij said:
Do you know anything about these in specific? They also run in background but I don't know their exact use.
com.android.smspush
Network Location (com.google.process.location)
Google One Time Init
Google Account Manager
Package Access Helper
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com.android.smspush: i don't know what it does, but reading its name i think it has something to do with receiving sms (push, as in push notification and sms). I am not sure about that, and i haven't tried freezing to so i cant tell you for sure.
network location: it is the service that runs in order that apps can find your location using the network. for example when you check in on facebook. It finds your approximate location without gps. If you turn gps on, then you get an accurate location. Havent frozen it as i use apps with location services (such as yellow pages apps, airport apps and stuff that need to know my location).
google one time init: don't know what it does, i've frozen it (didn't see it before, so i forgot to mention it in the previous post)
google acount manager: very important. it handles your username and password to log in in google services such as the play store, the contacts sync etc. if you freeze it you can't open the play store app (for example).
package access helper: i am not sure about it. I've searched a lot on google but didn't find a definitive answer. I've read that it has to do with installing/uninstalling apps. I've tried once to freeze it but i got some force closes. So, leave it intact.
I have two questions:
1. For rarely used apps, is it better to freeze them with Titanium Backup, or uninstall them and only install them when needed?
For example, I have an electrical amperage calculator that I use every once in a rare while. When I'm working on a project where I need those calculations quickly, it's very handy to have an app for that. But there can be months at a time when I never open it. What is the best way to manage that app when it's not being used? What if it's a little bit of a bloaty or questionable developer app? (Potentially starting up on boot or something) - does this change my treatment of it?
2. I use (and love) Hyperdrive for my rom. In the installer, there are some apps like, Google Maps or Gmail, and file managers and things like that. What is the benefit to installing apps that can be installed via the Play store through the rom installer? My gut instinct would say that installing it via the rom leaves more possibility for there to be problems. If I install an app via the Play store, I can easily uninstall it. But apps are something that I see offered with quite a few roms. Why?
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uberpippi said:
I have two questions:
1. For rarely used apps, is it better to freeze them with Titanium Backup, or uninstall them and only install them when needed?
For example, I have an electrical amperage calculator that I use every once in a rare while. When I'm working on a project where I need those calculations quickly, it's very handy to have an app for that. But there can be months at a time when I never open it. What is the best way to manage that app when it's not being used? What if it's a little bit of a bloaty or questionable developer app? (Potentially starting up on boot or something) - does this change my treatment of it?
2. I use (and love) Hyperdrive for my rom. In the installer, there are some apps like, Google Maps or Gmail, and file managers and things like that. What is the benefit to installing apps that can be installed via the Play store through the rom installer? My gut instinct would say that installing it via the rom leaves more possibility for there to be problems. If I install an app via the Play store, I can easily uninstall it. But apps are something that I see offered with quite a few roms. Why?
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uberpippi said:
I have two questions:
1. For rarely used apps, is it better to freeze them with Titanium Backup, or uninstall them and only install them when needed?
For example, I have an electrical amperage calculator that I use every once in a rare while. When I'm working on a project where I need those calculations quickly, it's very handy to have an app for that. But there can be months at a time when I never open it. What is the best way to manage that app when it's not being used? What if it's a little bit of a bloaty or questionable developer app? (Potentially starting up on boot or something) - does this change my treatment of it?
2. I use (and love) Hyperdrive for my rom. In the installer, there are some apps like, Google Maps or Gmail, and file managers and things like that. What is the benefit to installing apps that can be installed via the Play store through the rom installer? My gut instinct would say that installing it via the rom leaves more possibility for there to be problems. If I install an app via the Play store, I can easily uninstall it. But apps are something that I see offered with quite a few roms. Why?
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uberpippi said:
I have two questions:
1. For rarely used apps, is it better to freeze them with Titanium Backup, or uninstall them and only install them when needed?
For example, I have an electrical amperage calculator that I use every once in a rare while. When I'm working on a project where I need those calculations quickly, it's very handy to have an app for that. But there can be months at a time when I never open it. What is the best way to manage that app when it's not being used? What if it's a little bit of a bloaty or questionable developer app? (Potentially starting up on boot or something) - does this change my treatment of it?
2. I use (and love) Hyperdrive for my rom. In the installer, there are some apps like, Google Maps or Gmail, and file managers and things like that. What is the benefit to installing apps that can be installed via the Play store through the rom installer? My gut instinct would say that installing it via the rom leaves more possibility for there to be problems. If I install an app via the Play store, I can easily uninstall it. But apps are something that I see offered with quite a few roms. Why?
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1. Well, if you have the space to spare then obviously freezing would be more convenient than having to go to the Play Store every time you want to re-install it... however I highly doubt that an app like that would run on boot or hog any resources while not in use, so why not just leave it there? Another option if you need space on your phone storage would be to do a backup of any apps you don't use (backups will save to the sd card) and simply restore them when needed. There are ways to find out what apps are hogging resources when not in use, but I don't know off hand so you'll have to do your own search for that info.
2. This is just a matter of convenience as well... the rom developer is simply making your life easier by including popular apps right off the bat saving you the hassle of going to the Play Store to install them one by one. If you feel more comfortable going to the Play Store anyway... well then do so. It's the same apps either way so there's really no difference.
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Hey,
So, I've checked 'settings->apps->running' and I see that when I restart my phone the OS turn on Google location Manager, Google Play market, and some other thing.
I would really like if when I turn on my phone- no element could use my GPS unless I specifically tell it to run, then stop the usage when I tell it to close. Part of the tracking prevention, I imagine, will be done by disabling those services which are required for proper part functioning.
I suppose my questions are:
1) What services/elements should I disable?
2) How do I prevent them from running on startup?
3) How do disable parts of android to run on start up, in general?
Also I'd like to note that I would prefer not installing any apps or root the phone.
Thank you very much
UP.
(Damn, 4th page already. There sure is a lot of activity here).
For stopping any app on reboot you need to be rooted !!!
As you have to make changes in system files !!!
Without root access it’s not possible to stop a system app on startup...!
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Damn. Oh well, can you recommend such a way if I will root my phone?
Also, if anyone has other Ideas (for instance doing it without root) feel free to post them.
The Best app is Sd maid just you have to disable autorun component with one click it’s an all in one app as i am using it...! download it from the given link:
http://thedarken.de/sdmaid/stable/SD_Maid_v3.0.2.8_328_RC.apk
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androidrocks23 said:
The Best app is Sd maid just you have to disable autorun component with one click it’s an all in one app as i am using it...! download it from the given link:
http://thedarken.de/sdmaid/stable/SD_Maid_v3.0.2.8_328_RC.apk
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Very intresting, thank you.
Anyone knows by any chance what other elements should be disabled so to prevent the activation of components that could theoretically be used for tracking (so that for instance the GPS or the WIFI or some motion sensors or perhaps some other information gatherer could not be turned on (even if the phone is infected by malware)) ?
1) Download disable service in Google Play
2) Swipe to system apps, navigate to Google Play Services
3) Uncheck all mdm.services (first few)
4) Uncheck NlpLocationRecevierService, GoogleLocationManagerService, GoogleLocationService
5) Uncheck any plus, drive or cast service if you’re not using them.
* GPS will still work as normal.
Lim Wee Huat said:
1) Download disable service in Google Play
2) Swipe to system apps, navigate to Google Play Services
3) Uncheck all mdm.services (first few)
4) Uncheck NlpLocationRecevierService, GoogleLocationManagerService, GoogleLocationService
5) Uncheck any plus, drive or cast service if you’re not using them.
* GPS will still work as normal.
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Thank you.
when you say that GPS works as normal, does it mean that only the physical component is working but no app can access it (not even deliberate navigation apps)?
Also, I'll check this "disable service " but funny thing, one of the reviewers on the market has left this remark:
"Nearly useless I thought that if I disable some services - they won't run ever again. But then I learned that it is not so, and the bad apps who's services you disabled can undo that easily. Even if they get executed without SU rights. For me that means that DisableServices is potentially useless. If you would like to reproduce what I'm talking about - install Yandex.Maps, disable com.yandex.auth.AuthentificationService Please, add an active Guard to protect services from getting re-enabled"
Is there some truth in it?
And again thank you(!), will do what you suggested.
Hi there!
First of all I'm not a really big ROM magician nor a programmer/ developer, and I know for some people I wont tell any new thing with this thread/ post.
As everyone knows, our phones (U,Sola,GO) have 512 RAM. This is a problem, if there are bloatwares on our phone thus slowing it down. But what if there is no BW?? The answer: Yes, there is... three words: Google Play Services.
We can (finally) take advantage of Android app collection! Every application that needs Google Play Services has an alternative. Google Play Services is eating up our phone, especially the fresh versions. Just try to uninstall it from your phone, delete dalvik and cache then reboot, use the phone for some minutes, reboot again. Then you will see that it's much faster because there are more free RAM for the apps that are important in everyday usage, because Play Services is not sitting in the RAM.
BTW Google Play will still work without Google Play Services (but I think Google Services will be needed, but it's light).
OK, So that's all I just wanted you to know. I don't wanted to write this into any ROM's thread because it's generally usable info.
Google Play Services is needed by many apps for Push notifications
Info4Geek said:
Google Play Services is needed by many apps for Push notifications
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I'm using devswift's 4.1.2 unofficial JB ROM, and I've not met any problem after I've uninstalled Play Services. Ok, Hangouts not working anymore (using TalkSecure instead), but as I said there are lot of alternatives for applications.
So I'm curious what application's push notification needs Google Play Services that can't be replaced with other alternative?
BTW the phone is really faster without G.P.S. Erm... and there are no wakelocks because of the newest version's wearable service if you uninstall it
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I'm using devswift's 4.1.2 unofficial JB ROM, and I've not met any problem after I've uninstalled Play Services. Ok, Hangouts not working anymore (using TalkSecure instead), but as I said there are lot of alternatives for applications.
So I'm curious what application's push notification needs Google Play Services that can't be replaced with other alternative?
BTW the phone is really faster without G.P.S. Erm... and there are no wakelocks because of the newest version's wearable service if you uninstall it
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Push on Android devices are only desserved by Google Play Services
I seriously don't understand. I mean push notifications are working for me with incoming SMS, missed call, Talk (hangout) message... etc.
As I've mentioned I have Google Services Framework (4.1.2-485486), and it's light on RAM and the push notifs are working.
I don't know if it's equals an older version of G.P.S or its a different thing. If it's an older version, then the problem is with the new(est) versions of G.P.S.
By the way thanks for the answers and enlightement!
Asycid said:
I seriously don't understand. I mean push notifications are working for me with incoming SMS, missed call, Talk (hangout) message... etc.
As I've mentioned I have Google Services Framework (4.1.2-485486), and it's light on RAM and the push notifs are working.
I don't know if it's equals an older version of G.P.S or its a different thing. If it's an older version, then the problem is with the new(est) versions of G.P.S.
By the way thanks for the answers and enlightement!
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When I say Push notifications I talk about Internet applications who send live notifications without open apps like Twitter, Facebook, Messenger, Instagram, Tumblr, Tapatalk, Snapchat, PayPal, Foursquare and many more
Ahhh, okay, then this is why I haven't seen the missing notifications... because I never used any internet apps that uses push
Ok, so thanks for the information, it's good to know. I'll don't miss this feature, but someone may. So thanks again.
It's actually a very useful feature. If you turn off location reporting and switch auto sync off, your device will work faster with some more battery backup.
Vtrendzzy said:
It's actually a very useful feature. If you turn off location reporting and switch auto sync off, your device will work faster with some more battery backup.
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This.
Yes, remove Play Services from your phone will make your phone faster. Play Services is kinda useful for some apps. Without Play Services they may even cannot launch. Well, it is a paradox.
Just froze those unnecessary apps, and unfreeze when needed , that is what I do.
Many apps won't work without Google Play Services.