Sorry Google Play Music subscribers. It looks like you won’t be getting an advertised three month credit when you purchase a new LG Nexus 5X or Huawei Nexus 6P. In the terms for the Play Nexus 90 promotion, it says the following:
“The Offer is only open to residents in the US, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, United Kingdom, Ireland, Germany, France, Spain, Austria, Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Russia, Switzerland, Belgium, Norway, Poland, Greece, Japan, Australia and New Zealand (each an “Eligible Territory”) who:
1. have purchased an Nexus 6P or Nexus 5X in a Eligible Territory (“Phone”) between September 29, 2015 and midnight Pacific Standard Time on April 18, 2017; and
2. at the time the Offer is redeemed: (i) are not current Google Play Music subscribers; (ii) have not been Google Play Music subscribers in the past 12 months; and/or (iii) have not participated in a Google Play Music trial in the past 12 months.”
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In past cases, even as recently as the Nexus 6, current subscribers would get a credit towards their bill. I personally have a credit until December due to buying a Nexus 6 and I’ve been a subscriber since the service begun a few years ago.
Definitely disappointing but probably not something that will keep many people from purchasing the phone. If you’ve only used the free version of the service it appears that you’ll still be able to redeem the offer and get three free months.
http://www.androidguys.com/2015/10/03/current-subscribers-wont-receive-a-google-play-music-credit-with-a-new-nexus-purchase
Ugh
Makes absolutely no sense!
Existing customers get nothing.
And because I'm in the UK, I don't even get the $50 Google Play credit that everyone gets in the states either.
It's bad enough we pay soooo much more for the device aswell!
.... Thanks for nothing Google! (Literally)
I'm not even planning on taking advantage of it. 90% of my music listening is on the subway, streaming doesn't work for me.
Thats disappointing for sure..
Just create a new gmail. Should work and since you can have multiple accounts on a device it won't impact you. I did this with Nexus 6 promotion last year
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I'm not even planning on taking advantage of it. 90% of my music listening is on the subway, streaming doesn't work for me.
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You can create playlists and then select to download them to your device for offline use. Any future songs added to that list will auto-download on your device when you have data (you can select it to only happen on Wi-Fi).
I was planning on doing something similar with my car. There is an after market android head unit (not android auto) that I was looking at and I would put Play Music on it and make a playlist for the car and have it auto-download there. When the car is in my driveway it gets Wi-Fi and would download the music before I left
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;1975325]I'm not even planning on taking advantage of it. 90% of my music listening is on the subway, streaming doesn't work for me.
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You can download it for offline playback
i don't know what's so outrageous about this. i know you mention something about being able to take advantage of such offers before, but that's never been the case for me. Previous offers bundled with other nexus devices and chromebooks have been off limits to me as an existing subscriber. the only thing they've consistently allowed was google drive storage bonuses. ymmv but it's hardly shocking
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You can create playlists and then select to download them to your device for offline use. Any future songs added to that list will auto-download on your device when you have data (you can select it to only happen on Wi-Fi).
I was planning on doing something similar with my car. There is an after market android head unit (not android auto) that I was looking at and I would put Play Music on it and make a playlist for the car and have it auto-download there. When the car is in my driveway it gets Wi-Fi and would download the music before I left
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You can download it for offline playback
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I'm just extremely anal about my music collection. I like organizing it on my NAS so I can put it on any device I feel like with a simple copy on my local WiFi. I also have Amazon prime (where I buy all my mp3s anyway for a large number of years) so I'm already paying for being able to stream a decent chunk of my purchases and whatever Amazon throws in for free in Prime from time to time if I want to stream something on my laptop that I don't actually "own" in a rare case. I don't need yet another music service I will rarely want to use. I like having full control over my mp3s. I definitely see the draw for people that like to use it or if you don't have a music collection at all. But I've got like hundreds of gigabytes of music that ripped from my CD's (which I rarely buy anymore, but I've still got a ton of them) and purchased from Amazon MP3. I've still got all my CD's going back to like the late 80s (I'm old..relatively..)
bummer. i like free credits.
but this phone is so awesome, i'd buy it again. credits be damned.
AS someone said, its pretty trivial to create a new google account and use it for music for the 3 months.
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i don't know what's so outrageous about this. i know you mention something about being able to take advantage of such offers before, but that's never been the case for me. Previous offers bundled with other nexus devices and chromebooks have been off limits to me as an existing subscriber. the only thing they've consistently allowed was google drive storage bonuses. ymmv but it's hardly shocking
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Then credit me the 3 months of service in my google account.
Pisses me off. We should get something.
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Pisses me off. We should get something.
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Why do you feel entitled to this?
The world is full of "for new subscribers only" type offers. The concept is well understood. The terms were posted when you purchased the device. What ever Google did previously with other releases is not relevant.
I ask because I don't understand the sense of entitlement and anger people expresses in this thread over what amounts to less than $30.
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Why do you feel entitled to this?
The world is full of "for new subscribers only" type offers. The concept is well understood. The terms were posted when you purchased the device. What ever Google did previously with other releases is not relevant.
I ask because I don't understand the sense of entitlement and anger people expresses in this thread over what amounts to less than $30.
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Well, it sucks when companies screw current customers in order to gain new customers. We've contributed to the success of the service and when there's incentives to be had, you'd think current loyal customers saw something from it. One month free would be fine with me....something to say thanks for being a customer as well as thanks for spending $590 on our new phone. I don't feel i'm owed anything, btw....just think there should be something for us all.
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Why do you feel entitled to this?
The world is full of "for new subscribers only" type offers. The concept is well understood.
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How about the $50 Google Play Credit & the fact it's only U.S only.
You don't think this is unfair?
Especially when everyone outside of the states pay a much higher price for the devices already.
Would have been nice to have credit towards my current service - but doesn't surprise me they aren't doing this. Also, would be nice to buy a case with the $50 - Is what it is, not why I bought the phone anyways.
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Well, it sucks when companies screw current customers in order to gain new customers.
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Well, that's what I don't understand though. From my perspective, I'm not being screwed. You're not being screwed. Google hasn't increased the price of the service, or deleted our music libraries, or whatever just to be spiteful or to screw you. Nothing is changing for us. Google is just offering new customers a little incentive to use their product.
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How about the $50 Google Play Credit & the fact it's only U.S only.
You don't think this is unfair?
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I don't understand the decision, but I wouldn't call it unfair.
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Especially when everyone outside of the states pay a much higher price for the devices already.
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Let's examine that.
In the States the 32GB black Nexus 6P costs $499. According to Google, the current conversion rates makes that 324.89 British Pounds.
In the UK, the same phone costs what? 449 pounds?
449 pounds converts to $689.62 usd.
$689.62
-499.00
=You're getting screwed.
BUT - considering I have no idea what other costs go into selling the thing in the UK (tariffs, taxes, etc), I couldn't say for sure that this is completely unfair. Easy to look at it and say it is though.
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Hello! I just noticed this new app being promoted around my city (Boston) and it is quite awesome!
The App is called LevelUp
It is by the makers of SCVNGR (I haven't used that one)
Anyway this app is awesome because not only is it a fast and easy way to pay, but it also gives you great deals as well as some awesome rewards! Plus it is cheaper for businesses to use than credit cards.
So once you sign up, you add your credit card and then show your generated QR code at the store. You can even select a tip.
Now only stores in select cities are using this so far:
Boston, NYC, Philly, and San Francisco.
So if you live here you should definitely get this app!
Here is the best part (and a great tip for those in Boston):
The first time you pay in a store, you get money off of your purchase, then the more you pay at that store with LevelUp, the more money off you get.
For example. In Boston there is a place called Sebastian's. The first time you go there with LevelUp, you have a $10 credit. So get all the food you can under $10 and watch as you don't pay a dime. Then, after you spend $50 (including your first free $10) you get $5 off your next purchase.
Also if you are interested here is a Promo code that will give you an extra $5 towards any purchase: 59840
Have fun Everyone! and keep an eye out for the LevelUp stickers in store windows!
Would be nice. I happen to not live in a big city and have been looking for a payment solution similar to Google Wallet. Maybe when ICS gets pushed to devices it will be compatible with more phones. Not sure why though since GB was supposed to be fully functional for this type of service.
Well even if we had Google Wallet, we would need NFC, and then retailers would need to buy nfc readers. I don't see it becoming prevalent for a few years. This already has a head start and gives you free money! lol
So. Someone steals my phone and goes on a shopping spree.... no thank u
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So. Someone steals my phone and goes on a shopping spree.... no thank u
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True. And if you guys haven't heard someone already hacked Google Wallet with ability to steal card numbers. However, it is no different if someone steals your wallet or just the credit card number. Last two cards I have had (personal and business) someone got ahold of the number and went shopping online. So really, it can happen either way. Just have to make sure your lockscreen is active.
We'll never get wallet due to lack of NFC but I also own a NS4G and you'd really be surprised at the places it works. Next time you go the the grocery story check out the card swiper. Most have a lump at the top for mastercard tap and pay fobs. Those are NFC points and work great. Now that I look for it, im seeing them a lot. I've even paid for gas at the pump with it.
I was very excited at the notion of getting my N3 today. I drive like a mad man to the Sprint store closest to my home. I was expecting to see SOME type of crowd...(2 p.m.).the store was absolutely empty! So I tell the rep that I want to buy the N3, she said they never got any, not even 1 for launch day? In fact, she said that during the morning conference call, there was no mention of the N3 at all, WTF? She didn't know model numbers or anything else about it, do people really hate the Samsung line that much? After driving to the 3rd Sprint store, I bought the only one that was shipped to their store. Overall, I'm kind of miffed that even the store reps aren't/weren't prepared, knowledgeable or even slightly enthusiastic about this launch, but I'm glad I got my phone!
i went straight to best buy and got mine this morning but they did say they had a limited quantity and no accessories.. so i went to the sprint store around the corner to get a case.
they were excited to see mine said they have never seen the phone and didnt get any in
Local Clearwater store had plenty. Despite all the hype of the Note 3, it's always a sleeper at the Sprint store. The same thing happened last year at the Note 2 launch, and that was even more of a bigger hype since it is the first time the Note series is available from Sprint.
You took the time to complain because there was no rabid crowd like the iPhone zealots do every year? You should be thankful. The store I was at had limited stock AND some stores got their shipments and could not locate them.
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You took the time to complain because there was no rabid crowd like the iPhone zealots do every year? You should be thankful. The store I was at had limited stock AND some stores got their shipments and could not locate them.
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The sprint store here didn't receive theirs and one radioshack only got white ones while the other didn't get theirs at all. I just decided to order mine straight from sprint to avoid everything and to keep myself from being tempted into a white one.
No sign, accessories, or display model at the one i was at. However i was the 4th one sold within the hour.
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I had an appointment at Best Buy for 10:00 a.m. this morning. There weren't many people when I arrived but by the time I was done (took almost an hour!) there was a line of about a dozen people and and lots of talk about the Note 3.
Overall I am much more impressed with the look of the phone and the soft texture of the back; much better than I thought it might be based on many comments in the forums.
Best Buy also had the Galaxy Gear but it was tethered and the security device made the watch look so thick and impossible to test fit. The whole presentation did nothing to help sell the device. Overall from what I could see it looked nice but not for $300. I think Samsung and/or Best Buy really missed an opportunity by not offering some kind of Note/Gear bundle. Even $50 discount might have made me consider getting both.
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You took the time to complain because there was no rabid crowd like the iPhone zealots do every year? You should be thankful. The store I was at had limited stock AND some stores got their shipments and could not locate them.
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I was passing on an observation, not really meant to be a complaint. But it was if they had no idea that it was a launch date, no display units, no in-store posters, like they hadn't even heard of the phone. I just found it strange, maybe others here don't.
All the stores in Dallas/Ft.Worth got at least 10-20. I got there at 9am with 1 guy waiting and by the time i left after i kept telling the salesman i dont have to give them my phone that is not under contract..... I saw about 4 people leave the store with them.
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I was passing on an observation, not really meant to be a complaint. But it was if they had no idea that it was a launch date, no display units, no in-store posters, like they hadn't even heard of the phone. I just found it strange, maybe others here don't.
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We are smartphone enthusiasts. Sprint employees or corporate generally do not care. If they do, they would be working with Sony to push their XPERIA line. With a little encouragement and dealing, Sony will add a CDMA version. Look at the mistake with the uniband Note 3 and the lack of waterproof phone.
Get a couple of enthusiasts from XDA to the Sprint corporate board room and the company will be profitable real fast. Sprint corporate is often clueless just like the people at HP, just like the idiots at LG and HTC that decides their phone do not need an SD card. They make $5 mistake that cost them lots of unsold phones and hundreds of millions. Samsung don't have to beat them when they keep making stupid decision like that. Of course, this is just IMHO.
If I was managing the Sprint corporate store, you bet I will be promoting the Note 3 or any flagship phone launch with posters, display, cases, hooking it up to the smart dock, etc.. Look at the home page at Sprint. They are pushing the Iphones. Nothing wrong with that but they should be pushing any new flagship phone launch. They do not have the passion like the John Legre dude at T Mobile.
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I was passing on an observation, not really meant to be a complaint. But it was if they had no idea that it was a launch date, no display units, no in-store posters, like they hadn't even heard of the phone. I just found it strange, maybe others here don't.
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Thats because no one is trying to hear they only have one option for a plan. lol If you start advertising the Note 3 also people need to be informed that there plan is changing. People hate switching plans especially when the store reps even have a hard time explaining the new plans. Most people can care less about a new phone every yr. We are the minority. I personally thought you get $15 off the plan immediately. Then they tell me you have to wait 2 months. Just very confusing.
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Thats because no one is trying to hear they only have one option for a plan. lol If you start advertising the Note 3 also people need to be informed that there plan is changing. People hate switching plans especially when the store reps even have a hard time explaining the new plans. Most people can care less about a new phone every yr. We are the minority. I personally thought you get $15 off the plan immediately. Then they tell me you have to wait 2 months. Just very confusing.
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You have to wait 2 months for the 15$ off to kick in? They surely didn't tell me that.
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I pre ordered mine at the best buy in metro Detroit and had mine when I get off work at 2 pm. I got the black one
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I called sprint to get my upgrade today and the rep was asking me questions on how the galaxy gear worked. Lol.
He said they get a tiny ass powerpoint about the basics and that's it. When I worked for Apple (worst company), I would research online so that I knew everything. Better customer service, better results.
C'mon Sprint. Step your game up.
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Got mine and a Gear, I really like the Gear. It really compliments the Note.
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My Sprint store got the boxes from UPS as I arrived at 10am. They even had a Samsung Rep on hand doing Note 3 demos and Galaxy Gear. Cases were limited, all they had was the Body Glove case which is actually pretty nice. Overall this is a great phone and im so happy I exchanged my HTC One for this.
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You took the time to complain because there was no rabid crowd like the iPhone zealots do every year? You should be thankful. The store I was at had limited stock AND some stores got their shipments and could not locate them.
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My sentiments exactly. I dread going to my corporate sprint store. Yesterday, however, i was plesantly suprised that there was no traffic and i was served instantly upon walking into the store. TWICE. By 12 tho, it was filling up and i was glad i was finished.
It is very weird, regardless of what some will have you believe. I was first at one of my local stores to get one (was the only one in the store for the hour or so it took to futz with my account and activate the phone. Got there at store opening). They had not even taken them out of the shipping box yet. Had to go back to the store this morning and they said that I am still the only one to have gotten one. Inexplicable.
I realize the price bump to give preference to Apple (don't agree with it, but understand) but it's almost like Sprint didn't even want this phone to launch at all. Last to announce launch date. No marketing at all. With millions of Note and Note 2's sold, and several million Note 3's already sold world wide, I really can't figure out what's going on. I have seen companies do a lot of weird things, but whatever is going on with Sprint and the Note 3 is beyond me. Sprint's overall lineup of phones is horrendous anyway, getting a true flagship phone should be more of a big deal to them.
I have to say that I love this phone. Coming from a beat up Epic 4G Touch, this is like upgrading from a Pentium 4 to an i7. This is also the first time I have been able to use LTE and I love it.
There is a business aspect to this. Now trust me I don't want to give Sprint more credit than they deserve for being smart because at the retail level they are any thing but smart. However, the bigger push for Apple in all the stores may be a business decision and by design. If you recall, Sprint had to commit to hundreds of millions if dollars to Apple when they got the iPhone line.
Retail stinks anyhow for all manufacturers. I used to be a vp of salrs for a PC company and always felt like being held hostage to retail reps who can't add any value. I recall the days of ComputerLand when I got them to carry my new really cool laptop. There were two versions and we spent a lot of money and time training and motivating their retail team for the launch. I secret shopped the stores and when I asked the sales team what was the difference between model 1 and 2 he said $199 ....I was smart enough to calculate that myself ....the price was on the display.
Yesterday was another good example. I went to the Sprint store and there were no notes on display although they were in inventory. Then I drove to the Best Buy mobile store. Again nothing on display but a bunch in stock. Talked to store manager who said she was given a demo unit by Samsung a few days ago but didn't open it. She also had a Gear which she said she hasn't opened.
A Samsung experience in BestBuy stores is a good idea to help overcome the retail inefficiencies but ultimately we will pay the extra cost. No wonder internet commerce is a multi billion dollar channel
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There is a business aspect to this. Now trust me I don't want to give Sprint more credit than they deserve for being smart because at the retail level they are any thing but smart. However, the bigger push for Apple in all the stores may be a business decision and by design. If you recall, Sprint had to commit to hundreds of millions if dollars to Apple when they got the iPhone line.
Retail stinks anyhow for all manufacturers. I used to be a vp of salrs for a PC company and always felt like being held hostage to retail reps who can't add any value. I recall the days of ComputerLand when I got them to carry my new really cool laptop. There were two versions and we spent a lot of money and time training and motivating their retail team for the launch. I secret shopped the stores and when I asked the sales team what was the difference between model 1 and 2 he said $199 ....I was smart enough to calculate that myself ....the price was on the display.
Yesterday was another good example. I went to the Sprint store and there were no notes on display although they were in inventory. Then I drove to the Best Buy mobile store. Again nothing on display but a bunch in stock. Talked to store manager who said she was given a demo unit by Samsung a few days ago but didn't open it. She also had a Gear which she said she hasn't opened.
A Samsung experience in BestBuy stores is a good idea to help overcome the retail inefficiencies but ultimately we will pay the extra cost. No wonder internet commerce is a multi billion dollar channel
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I almost teared up reading this........ Everything you have stated is correct...
Sprint isn't a very effective VAR for Samsung products and I think they are in so deep with the fruit that they are beginning to regret their metric quotas they are obligated to meet on a quarterly basis in order to be in compliance with the distribution contract they signed in order to get into the very lucrative (Icraze) business model/ecosystem.
I wish Samsung would open a retail brick and mortar but the cult-ish following isn't near the same level as Apple.
So for the near future, we will have to go through the regular channels and hopefully the Samsung experience @ BB can get a foothold and become a starting off point for something better and a more customer orientated experience for Samsung users.
Only a question of time before Sony abandons electronics altogether as a corporation. It is their financial services, specifically life insurance, that provides profits and support the business.
http://www.splatf.com/2011/11/sony-profits/
http://www.phonedog.com/2013/10/11/i-ll-miss-you-sony-but-i-understand-why-you-re-leaving/
Bye bye Sonyyy
Hmmm...I'm not sure why you seem to think it's "only a question of time" before Sony gets out of electronics. These past couple of quarters have been their only good ones in a while, and they came as a result of the new corporate strategy with a big mobile push. It doesn't make any sense for them to start winding down now. All the CEO said was that considering the amount of resources it takes to crack the US market, it makes more sense for them to consolidate and strengthen their base in Japan and Europe before attempting to spread out.
If you ask me, it sounds very reasonable, and I think it's a great sign that Sony now has management that is capable of analyzing their situation and coming up with a concrete, step-by-step plan for improving it. As opposed to, for instance, HTC, who is just flailing about with no apparent direction.
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Hmmm...I'm not sure why you seem to think it's "only a question of time" before Sony gets out of electronics. These past couple of quarters have been their only good ones in a while, and they came as a result of the new corporate strategy with a big mobile push. It doesn't make any sense for them to start winding down now. All the CEO said was that considering the amount of resources it takes to crack the US market, it makes more sense for them to consolidate and strengthen their base in Japan and Europe before attempting to spread out.
If you ask me, it sounds very reasonable, and I think it's a great sign that Sony now has management that is capable of analyzing their situation and coming up with a concrete, step-by-step plan for improving it. As opposed to, for instance, HTC, who is just flailing about with no apparent direction.
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AntiLazarus said:
Hmmm...I'm not sure why you seem to think it's "only a question of time" before Sony gets out of electronics. These past couple of quarters have been their only good ones in a while, and they came as a result of the new corporate strategy with a big mobile push. It doesn't make any sense for them to start winding down now. All the CEO said was that considering the amount of resources it takes to crack the US market, it makes more sense for them to consolidate and strengthen their base in Japan and Europe before attempting to spread out.
If you ask me, it sounds very reasonable, and I think it's a great sign that Sony now has management that is capable of analyzing their situation and coming up with a concrete, step-by-step plan for improving it. As opposed to, for instance, HTC, who is just flailing about with no apparent direction.
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Agreed. Nothing in that article points to anything showing Sony will pull out of the US. They will probably continue to sell their phones unlocked through their website without investing tons in brand name or working with carriers. For now at least.
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I can only speak of Oceania where I am from. Sony devices are the most expensive. e.g.
Sony LED 52" is $3,900
LG LED 52" is $2,200
Samsung LED 52" is $2,900
Sony is renown here for a status symbol. No one in their right mind (only the rich) buy their brands. Their mobiles have come down in price a lot, and their Z1 and Ultra were similar prices to the S4 and Note 3. Otherwise I wouldn't have bought it.
In saying that they do particularly well in Asia. So saying that they will no longer sell electronics is mental. Perhaps in America.
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Only a question of time before Sony abandons electronics altogether as a corporation. It is their financial services, specifically life insurance, that provides profits and support the business.
http://www.splatf.com/2011/11/sony-profits/
http://www.phonedog.com/2013/10/11/i-ll-miss-you-sony-but-i-understand-why-you-re-leaving/
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What??? How do people come up with the conclusion that Sony is "exiting" the US market? And scantlin of phonedog is actually a paid reporter, and she said she will miss them!
Leaving is NOT what the CEO said.
"Our biggest priority is maintaining our share in Japan or increasing it ... But getting into the U.S. market requires a lot of resources and marketing, so we have to go one step at a time."
Even the guy at the Verge said "Sony is leaving.... for now". This newage electonic media and "news", the Internet! These reporters just crank the news out, like their articles don't get edited and verified by a second person before they are publised.
All the man did was point out the importance of maintaining the overseas market share, and the difficulty of penetrating the US market, which they will do 1 step at a time.
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What??? How do people come up with the conclusion that Sony is "exiting" the US market? And scantlin of phonedog is actually a paid reporter, and she said she will miss them!
Leaving is NOT what the CEO said.
"Our biggest priority is maintaining our share in Japan or increasing it ... But getting into the U.S. market requires a lot of resources and marketing, so we have to go one step at a time."
Even the guy at the Verge said "Sony is leaving.... for now". This newage electonic media and "news", the Internet! These reporters just crank the news out, like their articles don't get edited and verified by a second person before they are publised.
All the man did was point out the importance of maintaining the overseas market share, and the difficulty of penetrating the US market, which they will do 1 step at a time.
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This is simply what some people would like to see. Like that they can feel better buying something else and wish to make people go the same way as they do. Sony is a brand that put a lot of money on development and build, and they have hard time to be able to compete with Samsung and LG who flood the market with heavy marketing and communication. Marketing and communication are really expensive and so for companies who do it a lot, mean most of the price of the devise is for cover marketing fees.
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read this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/28/b...-its-not-electronics.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
No offense, but that's old news. Everybody knows Sony's electronics division has been losing money for a while. But now that they have actually managed to start making inroads in this area again, why would they quit? They're obviously determined to turn the electronics division around. I think Hirai meant just what he said.
They're now one of the top mobile manufacturers and they recently publicly said they're aiming to be in the top three which I reckon they can achieve. I like the fact that they support the Dev community, and I think their recent line up for both mobile and laptop is impressive. Their build quality is up there way past Samsung.
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Sony doesnt exit US market, they do not want to expand to US market and focus on UK and Asia.
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I agree, there's been no indication that they are dramatically abandoning the US phone market, as some have implied. And even if they did, do we really care? That wouldn't likely have any effect on XZU owners in the US. Virtually all of whom purchased the international version via the internet, which is "global" in nature.
As long as Sony has a solid international warranty and offers full quad band GSM support for use in the US, the off-contract and unlocked international route is the way to go. Besides, who wants more subsidized on-contract phones anyways?
marc_ecko28 said:
Sony doesnt exit US market, they do not want to expand to US market and focus on Europe and Asia.
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FTFY
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Sony is launching the world's first 4K Ultra HD download service. Films will cost $7.99 to rent and $29.99 to purchase.
"Thomas Halleck / International Business Times"
4K films will cost $29.99 to own from the service, and rentals will cost $7.99. Television episodes are also available for $3.99 each.
I doubt Sony would start a 4k download service that goes with their 4K TV's if they are going to stop their electronic business.
Sony just announced the Xperia Z1 and Ultra are going to be officially released in the US.
http://www.slashgear.com/sony-xperia-z1-and-ultra-usa-editions-appear-off-contract-15301394/
The Sony Xperia Z Ultra works with a pricing at MSRP $649.99 (HSPA+, model C6802), $679.99 (LTE, model C6806) in black, white or purple. Meanwhile the smaller device in the Xperia Z1 works with MSRP $669.99 (HSPA+) in black, white or purple. Again, while these devices may appear with carrier subsidies in the future, for now they’re all off-contract.
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They're literally available in stores, today lol
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I know the 6P won't be sold through the carriers, at least not right away. I'm a Tmo subscriber and I was a little disappointed at first but buying the phone and paying for it in full is always the best route.
With that being said are you with Tmo? What area of the country are you in? Having issues or are new services going live? Questions about service with past or the new nexus device? Let's keep each other updated with what's going on with our carrier.
I've had just about every nexus phone while on Tmo. I had spotty service for awhile but over the years service has gotten much better for me in the Orlando area. This past year I've seen almost all the 3g towers turn into LTE. I got to use HD voice for the first time on my nexus 6. VOLTE got turned on. Band 12 going live (although not in my area, I've used it in other FL markets) Going forward to the 6P are we going lose some of these? I've already seen a report that band 12 will not be unlocked at launch for our device. Will volte be available? HD voice? None of these are deal breakers but it would suck to have such a cutting edge device yet it can't access some basic phone functions. What are your thoughts/insight?
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when they see that sales are going down they will be dropping the price and eipin the phone just take a couple months
But i dont want to wait that long.. Ive saved my Jump and wanted the newest nexus again... Damn you
1SiK1500 said:
But i dont want to wait that long.. Ive saved my Jump and wanted the newest nexus again... Damn you
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why even bother with the jump program? buy phone outright and sell old phone. no restrictions, change phones whenever you want and probably cheaper.
unknown1205 said:
why even bother with the jump program? buy phone outright and sell old phone. no restrictions, change phones whenever you want and probably cheaper.
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I'm not a fan of jump either however not everyone can afford the full price, some people are fortunate to be able to.
I guess it's kinda like leasing your car but of course a way lower price.
I love buying unlocked phones and now that tmobiles prices are so low it really works out
Even with the jump program you are paying full price for the phone. It just gives you the option to trade in without worrying about negative equity, like a car. But I guarantee you the first time you buy a new car cash you'll set yourself up for life to never have a car payment again, this is so much easier to do with a phone... So much easier.
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SymbioticGenius said:
Even with the jump program you are paying full price for the phone. It just gives you the option to trade in without worrying about negative equity, like a car. But I guarantee you the first time you buy a new car cash you'll set yourself up for life to never have a car payment again, this is so much easier to do with a phone... So much easier.
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I think most people who get the jump program get it because they can't afford to pay the full price up front, even if they are paying the same in the end or maybe sometimes you pay more for a device when you could've gotten an unlocked device (same or better) for cheaper
I actually began my Nexus 6 purchase through finance. I figured hey, it's 0% who cares. I started to think of bills and life from a more DTI based perspective vs my older, borrow at low or no interest and invest to get more mindset.
Once you start paying off everything with a payment (no matter how low the interest) you start to have so much excess cash monthly that you realize WTF you've been doing wrong your whole life. It also makes it a lot easier to save and invest.
Anyway back on topic, I don't think carriers will be getting the 6P. But if anyone did, it would probably be T-Mobile
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if anyone did, it would probably be T-Mobile
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Since the thing will not be supporting band 12 on t-mobile, at least not right away, I'd think not.
Edit: Hah! Soon!
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/3mzygu/google_nexus_team_ama_working_to_get_band_12/
Why pay full price for the phone? I have the original Jump program. So i pay $27/Month. In one year I paid $324 and traded the phone in for the next Nexus. I didnt have to shell out the full $650. I dont know but it works fine for me. Only phone i care about are the nexus devices. Its a Big deal when i can simply walk into the store hand them my old phone keep all my Chargers and accessories and walk out with a new phone paying only taxes..
I just pre-ordered one and I feel that Jump may not offer a good deal. I've been hearing a lot about Google Fi so that does seem like a better option overall. Also, you would lose out on the $50 play credit and three months of free Google Play Music unless you get it before Oct 25. I'll be using mine for T-Mobile and I'd only hold on ordering to look over reviews, but it's a Nexus device so it should be pretty solid. I agree with many in here that not everyone can pay full price, but with Jump you are still paying quite a bit of money. It's just better to buy it up front then sell the old phone after.
One of the things mentioned in the Reddit AMA today was they're attempting to work with TMobile on getting the Band 12 turned on prior to the device getting to everyone. So at least they're acknowledging the issue.
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They're not selling the Nexus 6P in U.S. carrier stores... So we don't have the option to use Jump! or Jump! On Demand. I have a Galaxy S6 on Jump! On Demand that I'm a few months into... I purchased a 6P outright and will use 1 of my 3 upgrades w/ T-Moible to go w/ something else, and not pay a dime at the store. I switch phones a TON so for me Jump! On Demand is awesome. I will say though, once I am done with this current EIP, I will try to stay with unlocked phones and just pay outright for them. My monthly bill will be a lot cheaper.
As far as the band 12 support; if they get it fixed by ship date, great. If not, oh well... I don't have access to band 12 where I am (Columbus, Ohio), so I'm not missing anything if they don't have it fixed. I'm sure when/if it gets activated here this will be fixed.
In the Reddit AMA;
They ignored every question about why they are not selling through US Carriers. This was the most commonly asked question.
I'm like thinking, that's one of the most important questions, why will this not be sold in U.S. Carrier stores ? Especially T-Mobile stores, as they have carried and stocked every single Nexus phone the past six years. I could see Verizon or ATT not selling it, but T-Mobile has been a big supporter of the Nexus phones, as far as carriers go.
So the Nexus 6P will be nowhere to be seen or played with in stores, you just have to hope you think you'll like it and order it online only ? That's crazy. I always want to hold it in hand, mess around it with it for 30 minutes in the store, really get a feel for the phone, before deciding.
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In the Reddit AMA;
They ignored every question about why they are not selling through US Carriers. This was the most commonly asked question.
I'm like thinking, that's one of the most important questions, why will this not be sold in U.S. Carrier stores ? Especially T-Mobile stores, as they have carried and stocked every single Nexus phone the past six years. I could see Verizon or ATT not selling it, but T-Mobile has been a big supporter of the Nexus phones, as far as carriers go.
So the Nexus 6P will be nowhere to be seen or played with in stores, you just have to hope you think you'll like it and order it online only ? That's crazy. I always want to hold it in hand, mess around it with it for 30 minutes in the store, really get a feel for the phone, before deciding.
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I'm sure that They will be available at some point. Google has given exclusivity for the first couple months before, this time it's to themselves. Maybe they want to get the preorders out without a disaster like previous releases. On the bright side we get great pricing compared to the rest of the world
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Yeah, Rumor is they could offer them in stores later this month to avoid the instant rush of phone orders. They sell direct first then allow carries to carry a few models if wanted.
That Reddit AMA was filled with tons of questions asking about U.S. Carrier availability, and they didn't respond once.
Wonder if that got them thinking, hey maybe we should put this out to T-Mobile and other carriers maybe ? I could see that happening after the rush of Play Store orders, and be in stores come December. I bet T-Mobile at least carries it by Christmas, just my guess.
Zorachus said:
That Reddit AMA was filled with tons of questions asking about U.S. Carrier availability, and they didn't respond once.
Wonder if that got them thinking, hey maybe we should put this out to T-Mobile and other carriers maybe ? I could see that happening after the rush of Play Store orders, and be in stores come December. I bet T-Mobile at least carries it by Christmas, just my guess.
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I'm wondering if part of the reason is so they can say see how many devices we sold without you, you're not getting customized builds this time.
If they announce carrier availability it would just eat into their own direct sales.
I'd be shocked if this doesn't ultimately get on carriers in a quarter or so.
I'm still upset no Nexus 6P at U.S. Carrier stores, especially T-Mobile.
And I call BS on Google's excuse, that they want full control and no carrier slow downs no carrier involvement mucking things up.
Apple
Carriers don't get in the way of Apple and iOS updates. A Verizon or ATT iPhone 6S get's updated straight from Apple, you don't see Verizon users waiting longer for the iOS update, than an international iPhone user, or Apple having to give the update to ATT first and then let them, hand out the update later to it's customers.
Nope, if you have a Sprint, or T-Mobile, or Verizon iPhone, you just go to iTunes or Apple for the update, and they have the update available at the exact the same time, no matter which carrier phone you own.
My point is, carriers aren't in the way whatsoever, and Apple sells a **** ton of iPhone's through these carriers. How many sales of iPhone's are done directly through the Apple store and site only, like Google wants people to buy the Nexus 6P through the Play Store only ?
Google should sell the Nexus 6P at U.S. Carrier stores, and not give the BS excuse it's because of updates or some crap.
Can you believe people trying to get 40-100% markup on these on eBay?
People outside the U.S. that can't get them locally, I'd gather.
Talk about exploiting a situation..... SMH!
I remember Cabbage Patch Kids. Gouging has been happening for a while now, regardless of the product. If its in demand, someone will price gouge.
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Can you believe people trying to get 40-100% markup on these on eBay?
People outside the U.S. that can't get them locally, I'd gather.
Talk about exploiting a situation..... SMH!
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Is this your first time buying a smartphone? What you talk about, happenes everytime a new smartphone comes out.
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It may also just be that people with money want things and can afford it.
It may not make sense to you... But for the guy who is making 5 times what you do.... Paying double still feels like less, and time is money, why **** around?
I saw those $1000 for a 32gb one... Who woudl buy that? Its almost worse than iPhone people
You call it gouging, I call it supply and demand or capitalism.
They have every right to ask whatever they want for things they sell - more power to them if they can get someone to actually pay it.
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JasonJoel said:
You call it gouging, I call it supply and demand or capitalism.
They have every right to ask whatever they want for things they sell - more power to them if they can get someone to actually pay it.
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Its not sold out so no that wouldn't work here. You can still buy it directly from google right now therefore it's not a supply/demand thing because the supply is there.
Pilz said:
Its not sold out so no that wouldn't work here. You can still buy it directly from google right now therefore it's not a supply/demand thing because the supply is there.
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Except that it's apparently not available in some countries yet. Someone in Argentina I think it was complained about not being able to get one for a while, if ever. And if it DID become available, the price would be greatly increased.
So...it sucks because they're getting price gouged even more, but at least it's available...personally, I wouldn't increase the price by more than, I dunno, $50 or so to cover my minimal time and effort? But that's just me.
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Except that it's apparently not available in some countries yet. Someone in Argentina I think it was complained about not being able to get one for a while, if ever. And if it DID become available, the price would be greatly increased.
So...it sucks because they're getting price gouged even more, but at least it's available...personally, I wouldn't increase the price by more than, I dunno, $50 or so to cover my minimal time and effort? But that's just me.
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Yes but not state side or in one of the launch countries. I find it hard to fathom someone paying that much for a 32gb but then again some people don't care.
I am not from the U.S. and I bought the Nexus 5, Nexus 6 , Nexus 7 2012 and Nexus 9 from Google US Play store.
Now I pre ordered the Nexus 6P ?
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Supply and Demand, I'm not surprised at all.
Also not saying it's right, but it is a free economy, but shame on Google for only releasing it in certain area's.
EBay has always had a few ripoffs Sellers after Nexus launches...
Big Cam said:
Supply and Demand, I'm not surprised at all.
Also not saying it's right, but it is a free economy, but shame on Google for only releasing it in certain area's.
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There is plenty of supply this time, because you can still buy any of the eight configuration from Google store. It is crooks trying to trap uninformed people.
rajendra82 said:
Not supply and demand. There is plenty of supply this time, because you can still by any of the configuration from Google store of from Huawei. It is crooks trying to trap uninformed people.
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No, it's supply and demand. The supply in the US is plentiful, but it is not in other areas.
Also, for the instance of someone buying one in the US, that I'm sure you'll bring up, it is still supply and demand. The person selling is assuming they will have their pre-ordered device before a regular person will be able to pick one up in a store. So they are going to sell it to the person who really really wants it but didn't get a pre-order in early enough. If the person buying is willing to pay that high of an amount to get a phone a little early, then the demand has been created, and the seller is fulfilling that demand with their supply.
For example I pulled this off a $1,000 ebay listing.
"This pre-order item was ordered from Google early on the onsale date, and is expected arrive at my address November 4th - November 6th. I will immediately ship it upon receipt to the purchaser of this auction. In the unforeseen event of Google being unable to deliver the phone to me by November 11th, a full refund of the purchase price will be offered to the purchaser. "
That bolded part right there, would technically get to ME before my pre-order which quoted me Nov. 10-12, so the people who got in early, are banking on others wanting this thing yesterday, and they might be willing to pay.
With that said, are the people selling them for $1000 crooks, no, they have the right to do whatever they want with it, once they own it. However anyone who buys it for that price is a moron.
What ever happen to opportunist capitalism?
The value of the item is worth what someone will pay for it. If they can get it, kudos to them. If not, no one will buy it from them and the eBay auction will be back to MSRP. The buyer is fronting the cost of the good in hopes they can sell it for cost + eBay fees. I see nothing wrong with asking for the moon and settling on a tidy 10 or 15 percent profit.
M.Noury said:
I am not from the U.S. and I bought the Nexus 5, Nexus 6 , Nexus 7 2012 and Nexus 9 from Google US Play store.
Now I pre ordered the Nexus 6P ?
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Somebody give this man a cookie...
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Not sure i see an issue with it . People that have money will pay for what they want for what ever reason, weather its something they cant get in there county/ location or there is a supply issue and someone has it wants to take advantage of the situation to make extra money. no one is forcing anyone to pay those prices.
I wouldn't pay those prices for something i would just wait to find it cheaper lol
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What ever happen to opportunist capitalism?
The value of the item is worth what someone will pay for it. If they can get it, kudos to them. If not, no one will buy it from them and the eBay auction will be back to MSRP. The buyer is fronting the cost of the good in hopes they can sell it for cost + eBay fees. I see nothing wrong with asking for the moon and settling on a tidy 10 or 15 percent profit.
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You nailed it in way less words than me, :good::good:
The gold one is what I'm looking for.... I expect to pay a premium since it isn't available in the US...
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With that said, are the people selling them for $1000 crooks, no, they have the right to do whatever they want with it, once they own it. However anyone who buys it for that price is a moron.
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THIS +1