Glass being prone to crack? - Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm thinking about buying a Z5 Compact, but when reading about all the cases, where the glass on the front or the rear have cracked, on the Z1 Compact and Z3 Compact, I'm not so sure anymore.
What is the situation like with the Z5C vs Z3C/Z1C regarding the glass being prone to crack?
Thanks in advance.
David

I'm in the same situation myself.
However, I doubt we will be able to get feedback regarding this already. The "cracked glass" cases on the Z3C appeared IIRC only some time (months) after the release. Personally I plan to try to resist the urge to buy for 2-3 months and then check if there are any reports.

Psykhe said:
I'm in the same situation myself.
However, I doubt we will be able to get feedback regarding this already. The "cracked glass" cases on the Z3C appeared IIRC only some time (months) after the release. Personally I plan to try to resist the urge to buy for 2-3 months and then check if there are any reports.
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Just that. I'd wait a few months for a new batch, then you should be fine.
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Never had any problem with my z3c's glass and everything on the z5c seems good.

RiTCHiE007 said:
Never had any problem with my z3c's glass and everything on the z5c seems good.
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That's exactly what I said about my z3 compact for 9 months, feeling smugly sorry for all the people reporting cracked glass, until it cracked in my hand. On the other hand, that was the best reason to buy a z5 compact. Silly me.
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Does it have a gorilla glass? I have searched around but not being able to get confirmation.

coleburns said:
Does it have a gorilla glass? I have searched around but not being able to get confirmation.
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It's been discussed in many other places and the consensus is that it doesn't have gorilla. Apparently, the producer for Sony tempered glass panels is unknown.
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tudork said:
It's been discussed in many other places and the consensus is that it doesn't have gorilla. Apparently, the producer for Sony tempered glass panels is unknown.
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thanks

Bumping this up a bit..
Didnt want to open a new thread seeing as how this one is still here.
I'm on the edge of purchasing this phone but the spontaneous cracking glass issue and low durability of its predecessor (Z3C) are bugging me..
Was wondering if there are perhaps some more updated impressions regarding this.
Thanks.

I had z1c then z3c, my girlfriend, my sister and brother in law all still have the z3c.
All glass backs.
No cracks on any of these devices.
Other then when literally throwing the phone to ground by accident the front digitiser cracked (back was intact.)
Easy replacement as new chassis with inbuilt digi and screen was like £60 and very simple to replace the housing.
The spontaneous glass crack is hoopla if you take my consolidated multi user experience.
Don't let this phase your decision.
Also bear in mind the glass back plate believe it or not is the simplest thing to replace takes 2mins with a heatgun (again first hand experience.)

dillalade said:
I had z1c then z3c, my girlfriend, my sister and brother in law all still have the z3c.
All glass backs.
No cracks on any of these devices.
Other then when literally throwing the phone to ground by accident the front digitiser cracked (back was intact.)
Easy replacement as new chassis with inbuilt digi and screen was like £60 and very simple to replace the housing.
The spontaneous glass crack is hoopla if you take my consolidated multi user experience.
Don't let this phase your decision.
Also bear in mind the glass back plate believe it or not is the simplest thing to replace takes 2mins with a heatgun (again first hand experience.)
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It's hoopla until it happens to you.
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I'd be interested to hear more on the replacement procedure. Are there detailed instructions? If it isnt majorly expensive then it's not THAT big of a deal.
I see many cases on the market but no one ever actually tests the case to see how effective it is. Who is willing to drop their phone several times and see if their case works I remember seeing a review of iphone bumpers where they actually did drop several phones and only the really thick ones (like 0.5cm wide) actually protected the phone. Glass typically breaks from an edge hit. Does the glass go all the way to the edge, or is there a border around it? What is the boarder made of and how much energy can it really absorb. Now intuitively, I'd assume that the "compact" phone would be more resilient to cracks due to its size.
My last phone, I had a protector, but my current phone doesnt have one. I've never broken a screen, though I've cracked the casing. Both were gorilla glass. But I have no idea if that is just dumb luck.

I had a Z3, in a high quality case, the back cracked by itself. I was having issues with the speaker being quiet but was told the warranty was void due to the hairline crack in the back. Then a while later I dropped it but I caught it on my foot before it hit the ground so it was a very minor fall, but it was enough to crack the screen, a very thin hairline crack but still a crack, this stopped the screen from working so I was stuck without a phone. I got it replaced, and the back while I was at it, cost me $300 (AUD) to fix. The day I got the phone back, I was sat down at a table, wrote a message to my wife put the phone back in my jacket pocket, she text back so I pulled the phone out to check the message and there was a big crack across the screen. I did not drop it at all! Again the screen would not work. I didnt want to pay another $300 to fix the phone as they said the crack was due to stress (bull), so I bought a s6 galaxy, even though my Z3 was only 4 months old! Because the screen would not work with the crack in it, I could not get any of my data off the phone, when I plugged it into the PC I needed to unlock the phone but couldn't because the screen did not work, was very frustrated! Never buying a Sony again until they can confirm they have fixed this issue. The phone was too thin and flexed easily, my galaxy is thin but feels much more solid.

I have had a Z5C for a couple of months now. I spend a lot of time outdoors and am generally a bit rough with tech. I have dropped my phone from about a metre up a couple of times by accident already - knocked off tables etc. and have not suffered any ill effects yet.

Have dropped my phone SEVERAL times but still, screen takes it like a champ. Really durable phone if you ask me

I'm gentle with my phones, and even had a gel case on mine and yet the back seems to have cracked somehow without even a drop. The worst part is that I imported mine (don't sell them in Canada), so I can't get it fixed. I bought a skin from dbrand instead, and you can't even tell it's shattered any more.

Another user of z3c here , i can also confirm the glass problem is definitely a problem with z3c , dropped from 2 feet and back glass shattered , then drop from car seat on to the drive and cracked front from corner to corner disabling digitizer so now im using my phone with an otg mouse.
Im in the market for a new phone, but there is nothing except the z5c with a top spec that isn't stupidly big 5" + , i just tried a 5" asus phone very nice but just far too big for a phone, its not meant to be a bloody computer , its a phone, cant wait until they start becoming a bit more realistic again.
So i have looked at z5 , but i see exactly the same thread on the sony forums that was going for months if not years regarding z3 screen , and sony are still not taking responsibility and it looks like the design is still the same for z5c , such a shame as the phone is perfect in every way other than this defect (and some of the crap software add ons, but that's manageable)
Any other recommendations ?, it seems like i will be forced to buy an older gen phone , or a low end thing like moto E , why the hell did they make motog screen bigger after the first edition , ruined it as that was almost perfect too. I am considering a wileyfox , im just hoping some of these 5" ers have a minimal bezzal around the screen , the asus had a pretty big one it looked a like a plate , and that was their smallest one - how things have changed since the 8210 - at least i will save money if i buy a lower spec phone, but i'm a tech enthusiast and i want the best always have, they are turning away my money , there is nothing usable worth buying .
Back to the original topic , z5c , i just cant risk the money on it if it has such a fundamental floor , its an expensive phone compared to most other 4.5,6,7,8" phones that are usually around 100-150 , money isnt really the object though for the right phone i would pay. I have never had a phone screen crack before , and my z3 sees less action than any of my others as i work from home now and spend a lot more time in the house with my baby daughter, the htc phones are good , i lost count of the amount of times i dropped my desire HD hard , and when it was replaced by moto g it go even more brutal treatment as a second phone i kicked it down the road pissed and threw it against the wall several times, dropped down stairs and out of my pocket while riding a bike quickly , marks to the metal body but the screen was indestructible , i managed to break the moto g screen but i had fixed as i convinced them it was ridiculous that it broke failing off a sofa onto carpet but my replacement was fine , i had a painful time trying to do the same with sony though and with the endless complaints online, its obviously an inherent fault , im just appalled the z5c hasn't changed this.
This maybe a slightly unfocused rant , but i'm sure there are others that share my view , big spenders in the mobile sector have just been abandoned , someone needs to fill the gap in the market.
My partner also has the same issue , but is currently using a one mini 2 , which is very nice , but now slightly dated and HTC only went and cancelled all the updates , it didn't even get lollipop , why , it was the best phone they did by miles, and on top of that , they cancelled the mini3 , ultimate face palm
Where do i go chinese market ?
the blackberry blackphone is 4.7" , but i fear this is **** as it uses blackbery os, and i believe it has the other showstopping problem that the asus has , in that the processors architecture makes it incompatible with many apps, such as the only that is critical to me , the banking app with barclays.
Such a struggle, am i off to the chinese market? , i have no ****ing clue.

solowkey said:
Another user of z3c here , i can also confirm the glass problem is definitely a problem with z3c , dropped from 2 feet and back glass shattered , then drop from car seat on to the drive and cracked front from corner to corner disabling digitizer so now im using my phone with an otg mouse.
Im in the market for a new phone, but there is nothing except the z5c with a top spec that isn't stupidly big 5" + , i just tried a 5" asus phone very nice but just far too big for a phone, its not meant to be a bloody computer , its a phone, cant wait until they start becoming a bit more realistic again.
So i have looked at z5 , but i see exactly the same thread on the sony forums that was going for months if not years regarding z3 screen , and sony are still not taking responsibility and it looks like the design is still the same for z5c , such a shame as the phone is perfect in every way other than this defect (and some of the crap software add ons, but that's manageable)
Any other recommendations ?, it seems like i will be forced to buy an older gen phone , or a low end thing like moto E , why the hell did they make motog screen bigger after the first edition , ruined it as that was almost perfect too. I am considering a wileyfox , im just hoping some of these 5" ers have a minimal bezzal around the screen , the asus had a pretty big one it looked a like a plate , and that was their smallest one - how things have changed since the 8210 - at least i will save money if i buy a lower spec phone, but i'm a tech enthusiast and i want the best always have, they are turning away my money , there is nothing usable worth buying .
Back to the original topic , z5c , i just cant risk the money on it if it has such a fundamental floor , its an expensive phone compared to most other 4.5,6,7,8" phones that are usually around 100-150 , money isnt really the object though for the right phone i would pay. I have never had a phone screen crack before , and my z3 sees less action than any of my others as i work from home now and spend a lot more time in the house with my baby daughter, the htc phones are good , i lost count of the amount of times i dropped my desire HD hard , and when it was replaced by moto g it go even more brutal treatment as a second phone i kicked it down the road pissed and threw it against the wall several times, dropped down stairs and out of my pocket while riding a bike quickly , marks to the metal body but the screen was indestructible , i managed to break the moto g screen but i had fixed as i convinced them it was ridiculous that it broke failing off a sofa onto carpet but my replacement was fine , i had a painful time trying to do the same with sony though and with the endless complaints online, its obviously an inherent fault , im just appalled the z5c hasn't changed this.
This maybe a slightly unfocused rant , but i'm sure there are others that share my view , big spenders in the mobile sector have just been abandoned , someone needs to fill the gap in the market.
My partner also has the same issue , but is currently using a one mini 2 , which is very nice , but now slightly dated and HTC only went and cancelled all the updates , it didn't even get lollipop , why , it was the best phone they did by miles, and on top of that , they cancelled the mini3 , ultimate face palm
Where do i go chinese market ?
the blackberry blackphone is 4.7" , but i fear this is **** as it uses blackbery os, and i believe it has the other showstopping problem that the asus has , in that the processors architecture makes it incompatible with many apps, such as the only that is critical to me , the banking app with barclays.
Such a struggle, am i off to the chinese market? , i have no ****ing clue.
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I'm with you on the needing a small phone thing. I'd check out Samsung's lineup. a3, a5, s4 mini, alpha, s5 mini. There's something for almost everyone. I was curious if the z1c and z3c but they always had there drawbacks, z5c I took the shot and ain't liking it.
If you dot care about expandable memory or user replaceable batteries there's a few other options as well.

Sadly , i ****ing hate the ugly samsung software, but i did seriously look at the a series, whilst thinking wtf , how am i being forced to consider a low end phone when tech is my number one interest and about the only thing i warrant spending lots of money on, i will end up saving money at this rate - i am looking at the oneplus x now, as it seems to have a bit smaller outer dimensions , and still a decent spec but of course it's 5" too
trouble is i ran into this page recently https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/820 , and now i need to have that processor in my next phone.
I think i will grab a wiley swift for now, only £130 to get me by , and even £20 cash back from manufacturer now , its not high spec i know , but im desperate for something now, and no way am i giving these 'leading' manufacturers money to encourage the ridiculous types of phones they are churning out by the bucket now, they are ****ing house phones not something to carry around with you, i could imagine them wall mounted , but Gzus i see some people carrying these things and it looks like they are going into battle with the 'visionaries' .....
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Id try a z5c if it was about 1/2 the price and i didnt have a z3c already, for now i might just fix myz3c and put it inside a cage , it will still be smaller than these 5" devices - what did you find wrong with it though ?

I've owned a Z1C and now a Z5C and never had cracking issues on either. Don't drop your phone, it won't crack. If you're prone to dropping your phone, always get a case, because it's stupid to risk that much money on being clumsy.

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Shattered Screen?

So, I'm guessing there's not one person here who hasn't seen someone using an iPhone with a shattered screen - I reckon you see at least one a week...
My understanding was because the capacitive screens used glass, instead of some kind of plastic on the ole resistive type screens...
So, the x10 has a glass screen, yeah? and so do a lot of devices that are coming out with capacitive screens
So why is it I've never seen a cracked x10 (or heard of one on this forum), or even anything other than a cracked iPhone...?
Are iPhone users just clumsy, or is it bad design...?
Not flaming the iPhone or its users, but why is it the only phone prone to cracking (as far as I can see)
thats a reasonable question. ive dropped my x10 several times now (clumsy i know) but no damage to report yet. i do have a few scratches in the touchscreen protective film from when the cat decided to swipe at the phone when it rang on the coffee table, but thats another story
same.. i've dropped it many times from above the waist level and it's got no scratch/no crack... nada...(i mean the screen)
I remember at least two threads about shattered or cracked x10 displays (ok, over one of them rolled a bus, so don't let us count that one...). It's not a specific problem of the iphone, it's a problem all big displays have to face.
Sorry for not searching the other threads, but it's 2am here and i'm too lazy right now...
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qwer23 said:
I remember at least two threads about shattered or cracked x10 displays (ok, over one of them rolled a bus, so don't let us count that one...). It's not a specific problem of the iphone, it's a problem all big displays have to face.
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Yeah, seems there were at least 2 others - one got hit by a cricket ball, and another was cracked when the owner was trying to change their cover from black to white...
All of which are more like freak accidents, than common place.
I've seen maybe two shattered iPhones ever, and I see a lot of them on the trains here.
What's the point of this thread? To talk **** about the iPhone...? Like, the iPhone is the highest selling smartphone in the world... which means with their numbers, problems are going to seem bigger than they are, but they're still only a proportional percentage of the total. I would predict a similar percentage of shattered (by dropping) X10 screens as the iPhone.
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What's the point of this thread? To talk **** about the iPhone...?
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Answer found here:
k1sr said:
Not flaming the iPhone or its users, but why is it the only phone prone to cracking (as far as I can see)
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What's the point of your post? To talk **** about the thread...?
But since it wasn't clear at the start, I'm just curious (I think that's what forums are also for, but maybe they're just to whine about 1.6 and 2.1 )
You are right though, it's probably got a lot to do with the percentage of iPhones, but less than a third of the phones out there are iPhones, so I'd expect there to be more other cracked phones (not just x10's) - you know, 1 iPhone for 2 other phones (maybe a Desire, perhaps a Driod, or god forbid, maybe even a Galaxy S )
but no, I've only seen iPhones, and quite a lot... I recall at least 5
I can't say I see any smartphones outside of the X10 or iPhone on any sort of regular basis here in Japan, but, I've never seen a smashed X10 and only two iPhones.
I don't think any phone is more "prone" to accidents, but it stands to reason that the more mainstream your product becomes, the more irresponsible your customer base will be with your product. Like, for the most part, geeks who take care of their phones will own an X10, but a bunch of kids or people who just don't care.
ive just been in london and while on the underground ive seen 6 or 8 people using cracked screen iphunes, and i have also dropped my x10 afew times and no damage on her what so ever!
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iead1 said:
it stands to reason that the more mainstream your product becomes, the more irresponsible your customer base will be with your product. Like, for the most part, geeks who take care of their phones will own an X10, but a bunch of kids or people who just don't care.
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That's a good point... I guess the most 'kids' seem to have iPhones, and out of everyone I've seen with a cracked phone, they certainly appear to be the type of person who wouldn't care too much...
Three cheers for us geeks with x10's !!!
And also, I reckon we're all so careful with our x10's cos we're patiently waiting for 2.1, and who wants to finally get 2.1 on a broken phone...??
ive seen iphones crack from just getting placed on a table. Ive seen pretty bad cracks from iphones being dropped.
Ive dropped the x10 a few times and ive had some pretty heavy stuff land squarely on the screen and its held up. in terms of overall build quality its on par with my blackberrys for sure
the rubberised backing of the x10 makes it harder to slip out of the hands.
I haven't seen or heard many desires with cracked screens either, but quite a few Samsung galaxy s with craved screens.
iPhone's are slippery with their glossy finish and the iPhone 4 is like a wet fish its so slippery.
I cracked mine
I cracked My screen playing golf it fell from about 1 metre and smashed the touch screen but still worked replaced it now for £90 though!
Ive seen one before. It was done on purpose with the end of a bayonet. But it was still smashed (needed to claim on the insurance because it would not charge) smashed a iPhone screen just by dropping it
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the rubberised backing of the x10 makes it harder to slip out of the hands.
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Only the black one is rubberized. The white one is quite glossy.
Then again, I use covers on my phone, so my phones are always rubbered up!
Im the most unlucky owner
First I feel down some stairs with the phone in my back pocket = LCD display cracked
4 weeks later lost the phone out of a pocket while biking dropped on asphalt and smashed the corner of the fron/touch screen :-(
replaced both so I now know how to open a x10 and by the way got a very good offer on the front via ebay , original I think it was only 50 eur
N
I have seen many damaged Iphones. My boss actually cracked his screen getting it out of his pocket, and that was the second screen he broke.
He states that it is like the screen is already flexed and if he applied even a small amount of extra flex it would crack.
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NiJunge said:
Im the most unlucky owner
First I feel down some stairs with the phone in my back pocket = LCD display cracked
4 weeks later lost the phone out of a pocket while biking dropped on asphalt and smashed the corner of the fron/touch screen :-(
replaced both so I now know how to open a x10 and by the way got a very good offer on the front via ebay , original I think it was only 50 eur
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Ha you ve made my day;-) i just wodered if there was any way to change the layer of the x10s screen. I had my x10 in my pocket together with a broken key . I think you can imagine what this did to.my x10 s screen . But hey its still morking. So this litle screenprotector is about 50€ is it easy to replace it?
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This is actually quite true. My friend had an iphone and he put it under his pillow. He rolled over it in his sleep to find the screen is shattered
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Here's a story for you that someone posted on another forum I use...
I went round to my mates earlier and as I got out of my car one of his naughbours was trying to start his motorbike so I offered to give him a push start.
As I was running along I felt something hit my knee, as I looked down I saw my X10 flying to the ground and right in front of the back wheel. Just at the time he released the clutch and the back wheel locked and well Im sure you can guess what happened.
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Concerns buying Xperia Z

Dear XDA community,
This is my first post here, so I would like to start off by thanking all of the hard working, and amazingly talented, developers whom have improved many of my android devices; adding something new and fresh, and making it feel like a new device time after time.
After having an unfortunate accident with my Galaxy Note 2 – two unfortunate accidents actually, first I smashed the screen, and then I dropped it on the back cover, warping the whole device, forcing up the whole plastic frame, and making it unable to charge – quite a critical function, isn’t it – I am looking for a new phone to buy. Now rather than later.
When I saw the Xperia Z Ultra though, I fell in love. I love the design, I love the physical size, I love the slimness and I love the performance.
There are some things I am concerned about though. I would love any of you guys advice on this.
Build quality
I am seeing mixed opinions about the build quality of the Xperia Z Ultra, and the recent Xperia phones in general. On the one hand Sony itself is touting that the screen is extremely strong, which seems to be the case judging by the drop tests on YouTube. Then again there seem to be many threads on the lack of durability, and how the screen can suddenly crack.
I am also wondering how you guys solve the problem with the shatterproof film. On the one hand, it is a great idea, but on the other hand I would not want my phone to be full of scratches. Can one simply apply one of those tempered glass screen protectors over the screen for ultimate protection? Considering I am quite a clunse – this Note 2 is the first phone I have ever owned that surpassed 6 months of survival – I am quite possibly going to need all the protection I can get.
Water resistance
How does the touchscreen react to water? I have always used my smartphones under the shower. Ever since the capacitive touchscreens, they freak out when a certain amount of water hits the screen. The screen will zoom in and out, the keyboard will give all sorters of weird suggestions, or it will just stop working entirely. According to most sources the phone uses a regular capacitive display.
But does it fare any better when wet? Furthermore are there any screen protectors that you can use while regularly getting the phone wet?
Loudspeaker
Well, how loud can it go? I am currently using the note 2 which has pretty reasonable speaker. I use it while watching movies and listening to music in the shower, but I also enjoy the benefits of a properly loud ringtone.
Size
I am afraid to go this route again, but can this guy comfortably fit in one’s pocket? As far as the internet goes, once again, opinions are divided. Most of my jeans can comfortably fit, length wise, 1,5 passports. Does this mean, as I am theorizing, that the Ultra Z will fit too?
Availability
I am from the Netherlands, a small country in Europe you probably won’t know – or would for its legal drugs and prostitution + drinking age and epic parties, and I would love to buy this phone as soon as possible, since I currently do not have a functional phone. Sadly it will only become available on the 13th of September, and I am not even sure this is going to be the 4G LTE version.
Does anybody have any tips where I can buy this phone on a contract? Sadly paying full price on it isn’t an option at the moment. All my savings have, disappeared on many – and quite diverse – spending’s.
I appreciate your help and tips! I secretly hope I am going to be convinced to buy this amazing phone. Also sorry for my bad English – it is not my native language, and also my apologies for this rather long post.
Road Trip said:
Dear XDA community,
This is my first post here, so I would like to start off by thanking all of the hard working, and amazingly talented, developers whom have improved many of my android devices; adding something new and fresh, and making it feel like a new device time after time.
After having an unfortunate accident with my Galaxy Note 2 – two unfortunate accidents actually, first I smashed the screen, and then I dropped it on the back cover, warping the whole device, forcing up the whole plastic frame, and making it unable to charge – quite a critical function, isn’t it – I am looking for a new phone to buy. Now rather than later.
When I saw the Xperia Z Ultra though, I fell in love. I love the design, I love the physical size, I love the slimness and I love the performance.
There are some things I am concerned about though. I would love any of you guys advice on this.
Build quality
I am seeing mixed opinions about the build quality of the Xperia Z Ultra, and the recent Xperia phones in general. On the one hand Sony itself is touting that the screen is extremely strong, which seems to be the case judging by the drop tests on YouTube. Then again there seem to be many threads on the lack of durability, and how the screen can suddenly crack.
I am also wondering how you guys solve the problem with the shatterproof film. On the one hand, it is a great idea, but on the other hand I would not want my phone to be full of scratches. Can one simply apply one of those tempered glass screen protectors over the screen for ultimate protection? Considering I am quite a clunse – this Note 2 is the first phone I have ever owned that surpassed 6 months of survival – I am quite possibly going to need all the protection I can get.
Water resistance
How does the touchscreen react to water? I have always used my smartphones under the shower. Ever since the capacitive touchscreens, they freak out when a certain amount of water hits the screen. The screen will zoom in and out, the keyboard will give all sorters of weird suggestions, or it will just stop working entirely. According to most sources the phone uses a regular capacitive display.
But does it fare any better when wet? Furthermore are there any screen protectors that you can use while regularly getting the phone wet?
Loudspeaker
Well, how loud can it go? I am currently using the note 2 which has pretty reasonable speaker. I use it while watching movies and listening to music in the shower, but I also enjoy the benefits of a properly loud ringtone.
Size
I am afraid to go this route again, but can this guy comfortably fit in one’s pocket? As far as the internet goes, once again, opinions are divided. Most of my jeans can comfortably fit, length wise, 1,5 passports. Does this mean, as I am theorizing, that the Ultra Z will fit too?
Availability
I am from the Netherlands, a small country in Europe you probably won’t know – or would for its legal drugs and prostitution + drinking age and epic parties, and I would love to buy this phone as soon as possible, since I currently do not have a functional phone. Sadly it will only become available on the 13th of September, and I am not even sure this is going to be the 4G LTE version.
Does anybody have any tips where I can buy this phone on a contract? Sadly paying full price on it isn’t an option at the moment. All my savings have, disappeared on many – and quite diverse – spending’s.
I appreciate your help and tips! I secretly hope I am going to be convinced to buy this amazing phone. Also sorry for my bad English – it is not my native language, and also my apologies for this rather long post.
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Very nice, polite post.
I would like to help you BUTTTTTT. I also live in Europe, Southern Europe and I have yet to even set eyes on the Sony xperia Z Ultra. I do own the xperia z mobile also the xperia Z tablet.
I have also owned the note and just found it too big for my daily usage. The Ultra is going to be massive. I mean massive. Like you I want one BUT am thinking very hard before I purchase. You see next month there are going to be numerous new devices introduced including some from Samsung, the note 111.
I am unsure about only one area of the Ultra and that is the size. Just how pocket friendly is this going to be? I used to get annoyed with my note as every time I sat in the car the phone would dig into by groin. I ended up only carrying it. Sold it within less than a year of ownership.
I have zero reservations regarding the quality of the Ultra. Sony are a top brand with many years of consumer product research and after sales etc.
I am not going to take the jump to the Ultra until I see what's coming next month. New mobiles from Sony, HTC, Samsung and LG to name a few are going to be released. I don't think any of them will have the same massive screen but that is fine for me. 5.5 or 6" would be the max for me, I think?
Its a dilemma. The Ultra introduced into the EC will be LTE 4G so no worries there. More than that I cannot say?
Kindest regards.
Road Trip said:
Dear XDA community,
This is my first post here, so I would like to start off by thanking all of the hard working, and amazingly talented, developers whom have improved many of my android devices; adding something new and fresh, and making it feel like a new device time after time.
After having an unfortunate accident with my Galaxy Note 2 – two unfortunate accidents actually, first I smashed the screen, and then I dropped it on the back cover, warping the whole device, forcing up the whole plastic frame, and making it unable to charge – quite a critical function, isn’t it – I am looking for a new phone to buy. Now rather than later.
When I saw the Xperia Z Ultra though, I fell in love. I love the design, I love the physical size, I love the slimness and I love the performance.
There are some things I am concerned about though. I would love any of you guys advice on this.
Build quality
I am seeing mixed opinions about the build quality of the Xperia Z Ultra, and the recent Xperia phones in general. On the one hand Sony itself is touting that the screen is extremely strong, which seems to be the case judging by the drop tests on YouTube. Then again there seem to be many threads on the lack of durability, and how the screen can suddenly crack.
I am also wondering how you guys solve the problem with the shatterproof film. On the one hand, it is a great idea, but on the other hand I would not want my phone to be full of scratches. Can one simply apply one of those tempered glass screen protectors over the screen for ultimate protection? Considering I am quite a clunse – this Note 2 is the first phone I have ever owned that surpassed 6 months of survival – I am quite possibly going to need all the protection I can get.
Water resistance
How does the touchscreen react to water? I have always used my smartphones under the shower. Ever since the capacitive touchscreens, they freak out when a certain amount of water hits the screen. The screen will zoom in and out, the keyboard will give all sorters of weird suggestions, or it will just stop working entirely. According to most sources the phone uses a regular capacitive display.
But does it fare any better when wet? Furthermore are there any screen protectors that you can use while regularly getting the phone wet?
Loudspeaker
Well, how loud can it go? I am currently using the note 2 which has pretty reasonable speaker. I use it while watching movies and listening to music in the shower, but I also enjoy the benefits of a properly loud ringtone.
Size
I am afraid to go this route again, but can this guy comfortably fit in one’s pocket? As far as the internet goes, once again, opinions are divided. Most of my jeans can comfortably fit, length wise, 1,5 passports. Does this mean, as I am theorizing, that the Ultra Z will fit too?
Availability
I am from the Netherlands, a small country in Europe you probably won’t know – or would for its legal drugs and prostitution + drinking age and epic parties, and I would love to buy this phone as soon as possible, since I currently do not have a functional phone. Sadly it will only become available on the 13th of September, and I am not even sure this is going to be the 4G LTE version.
Does anybody have any tips where I can buy this phone on a contract? Sadly paying full price on it isn’t an option at the moment. All my savings have, disappeared on many – and quite diverse – spending’s.
I appreciate your help and tips! I secretly hope I am going to be convinced to buy this amazing phone. Also sorry for my bad English – it is not my native language, and also my apologies for this rather long post.
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Here's my impression based on my 8-hours experience with the ZU:
Build quality
Just put a screen protector on top of the shatterproof film. Many reports it won't interfere with the screen sensitivity. I myself haven't got my hand on a screen protector, so I just use the plastic cover with various logo that is on the lcd when you first open the box.. no touch issue :laugh:
Water resistance
The screen reacts like cr*p. Few drops, running water, partially submerged, then the phone will feel all touchy. Random touches. Submerged entirely, there's seem to be no random input anymore but it won't respond any touch. This is a limitation of current capacitive touchscreen technology, I think. Take it out and wipe it dry, good as new.
Loudspeaker
Not too loud, but enough for me. As a ringtone, it maybe not loud enough in a noisy environment. Not sure since haven't tried many scenario
Size
BIG. Width-wise, yes it sits nicely in my (not baggy, but not skinny)jeans pocket. But tall-wise.. well this is where ZU comes sho... no, long. It's almost too long for my taste. When I use jeans with deeper pockets, I can sit down without having my hip speared by the ZU, but smaller pockets, yes, I can feel it, and a bit annoyed. Walking is no problem. Lucky me most of my jeans fall into the deeper-pocket-category
Availability
Can't help you there :silly:
Build quality
I am seeing mixed opinions about the build quality of the Xperia Z Ultra, and the recent Xperia phones in general. On the one hand Sony itself is touting that the screen is extremely strong, which seems to be the case judging by the drop tests on YouTube. Then again there seem to be many threads on the lack of durability, and how the screen can suddenly crack.
I am also wondering how you guys solve the problem with the shatterproof film. On the one hand, it is a great idea, but on the other hand I would not want my phone to be full of scratches. Can one simply apply one of those tempered glass screen protectors over the screen for ultimate protection? Considering I am quite a clunse – this Note 2 is the first phone I have ever owned that surpassed 6 months of survival – I am quite possibly going to need all the protection I can get.
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Well, both sides are glass (DragonTrail i believe), which is "scratch proof" like Gorilla Glass, but that doesn't mean it's shatterproof. Glass is glass after all, and if you drop it on the ground, it'll most certainly shatter. The only thing the shatter protectors do is to keep the screen in one piece once it shatters.
Water resistance
How does the touchscreen react to water? I have always used my smartphones under the shower. Ever since the capacitive touchscreens, they freak out when a certain amount of water hits the screen. The screen will zoom in and out, the keyboard will give all sorters of weird suggestions, or it will just stop working entirely. According to most sources the phone uses a regular capacitive display.
But does it fare any better when wet? Furthermore are there any screen protectors that you can use while regularly getting the phone wet?
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It'll react like any other capacitive screen; not that gracefully. It'll do its thing and you won't have any control, but it'll survive and that's the most important thing.
Loudspeaker
Well, how loud can it go? I am currently using the note 2 which has pretty reasonable speaker. I use it while watching movies and listening to music in the shower, but I also enjoy the benefits of a properly loud ringtone.
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It looks like the Ultra shares the same problem like its little brother - the Xperia Z. Audio levels are pretty low compared to other devices, but there's a reason for that. They are both waterproof and there's a membrane on the speaker so water doesn't penetrate the speaker and destroys the device.
Size
I am afraid to go this route again, but can this guy comfortably fit in one’s pocket? As far as the internet goes, once again, opinions are divided. Most of my jeans can comfortably fit, length wise, 1,5 passports. Does this mean, as I am theorizing, that the Ultra Z will fit too?
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Luckily (i can't believe i'm saying this) winter is coming, and i'll wear a jacket most of the time when i'm outside, so i hope it won't be a huge problem (which i doubt).
Availability
I am from the Netherlands, a small country in Europe you probably won’t know – or would for its legal drugs and prostitution + drinking age and epic parties, and I would love to buy this phone as soon as possible, since I currently do not have a functional phone. Sadly it will only become available on the 13th of September, and I am not even sure this is going to be the 4G LTE version.
Does anybody have any tips where I can buy this phone on a contract? Sadly paying full price on it isn’t an option at the moment. All my savings have, disappeared on many – and quite diverse – spending’s.
I appreciate your help and tips! I secretly hope I am going to be convinced to buy this amazing phone. Also sorry for my bad English – it is not my native language, and also my apologies for this rather long post.
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I'm in the same boat as you. I'm from Norway and i haven't even touched the Ultra yet, so it'll be interesting once i get the chance to play with it. I have no idea about who, what or where you can get the Ultra in the Netherlands (once it's released), but my bet is to check your typical big carriers since they are the first ones to receive new devices.
Also, your English is very good, so no excuses are necessary, and your post is excellent. It's quite refreshing to read a good post and not the typical "when can buy ultra store cheap help help" (yes, that's a totaly normal post around here)
Road Trip said:
Dear XDA community,
This is my first post here, so I would like to start off by thanking all of the hard working, and amazingly talented, developers whom have improved many of my android devices; adding something new and fresh, and making it feel like a new device time after time.
After having an unfortunate accident with my Galaxy Note 2 – two unfortunate accidents actually, first I smashed the screen, and then I dropped it on the back cover, warping the whole device, forcing up the whole plastic frame, and making it unable to charge – quite a critical function, isn’t it – I am looking for a new phone to buy. Now rather than later.
When I saw the Xperia Z Ultra though, I fell in love. I love the design, I love the physical size, I love the slimness and I love the performance.
There are some things I am concerned about though. I would love any of you guys advice on this.
Build quality
I am seeing mixed opinions about the build quality of the Xperia Z Ultra, and the recent Xperia phones in general. On the one hand Sony itself is touting that the screen is extremely strong, which seems to be the case judging by the drop tests on YouTube. Then again there seem to be many threads on the lack of durability, and how the screen can suddenly crack.
I am also wondering how you guys solve the problem with the shatterproof film. On the one hand, it is a great idea, but on the other hand I would not want my phone to be full of scratches. Can one simply apply one of those tempered glass screen protectors over the screen for ultimate protection? Considering I am quite a clunse – this Note 2 is the first phone I have ever owned that surpassed 6 months of survival – I am quite possibly going to need all the protection I can get.
Water resistance
How does the touchscreen react to water? I have always used my smartphones under the shower. Ever since the capacitive touchscreens, they freak out when a certain amount of water hits the screen. The screen will zoom in and out, the keyboard will give all sorters of weird suggestions, or it will just stop working entirely. According to most sources the phone uses a regular capacitive display.
But does it fare any better when wet? Furthermore are there any screen protectors that you can use while regularly getting the phone wet?
Loudspeaker
Well, how loud can it go? I am currently using the note 2 which has pretty reasonable speaker. I use it while watching movies and listening to music in the shower, but I also enjoy the benefits of a properly loud ringtone.
Size
I am afraid to go this route again, but can this guy comfortably fit in one’s pocket? As far as the internet goes, once again, opinions are divided. Most of my jeans can comfortably fit, length wise, 1,5 passports. Does this mean, as I am theorizing, that the Ultra Z will fit too?
Availability
I am from the Netherlands, a small country in Europe you probably won’t know – or would for its legal drugs and prostitution + drinking age and epic parties, and I would love to buy this phone as soon as possible, since I currently do not have a functional phone. Sadly it will only become available on the 13th of September, and I am not even sure this is going to be the 4G LTE version.
Does anybody have any tips where I can buy this phone on a contract? Sadly paying full price on it isn’t an option at the moment. All my savings have, disappeared on many – and quite diverse – spending’s.
I appreciate your help and tips! I secretly hope I am going to be convinced to buy this amazing phone. Also sorry for my bad English – it is not my native language, and also my apologies for this rather long post.
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I agree with the above.
Build Quality I find to be very good.
Water resistance as mentioned above. Drops of water set off the screen so it will go mad. When fully submerged the screen will not accept touch input. Need to set volume buttons to take pic. Otherwise good clear pics/video.
Loudspeaker - not the greatest, its works. I use bluetooth external speakers.
Size - yes a bit of an issue. It'll fit in your jean pocket but you'll be climbing stairs like you have a wooden leg. I found a money belt that it fits into for carrying on my person. Otherwise it sits on a desk.
You missed battery! - the battery life so far is very good considering the size of the screen.
If I were you I'd wait for the Honami release which is due soon. It has 20MP camera with flash for starters.
All Dutchmen speak/write GOOD english.
Hello,
Also concerning about buying it, might jump on it next week. I had a 3G version in my hands and in term of build it is really good, it is big but like I bring a N7 everywhere I feel it even more comfortable to use than a 7" tab.
The only thing that worry me is all the different models, as I actually live in Vietnam and soon go back to French I go for the C6833 that is the LTE version that will be available in Europe and normally is sold as international version. That's worry me for the upcoming customs ROMs, this is often a mess with the baseband. Because the launcher is interesting, but it is hard to believe that now a day we still have launcher with limited scroll.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Road Trip said:
Dear XDA community,
Build quality
I am seeing mixed opinions about the build quality of the Xperia Z Ultra, and the recent Xperia phones in general. On the one hand Sony itself is touting that the screen is extremely strong, which seems to be the case judging by the drop tests on YouTube. Then again there seem to be many threads on the lack of durability, and how the screen can suddenly crack.
I am also wondering how you guys solve the problem with the shatterproof film. On the one hand, it is a great idea, but on the other hand I would not want my phone to be full of scratches. Can one simply apply one of those tempered glass screen protectors over the screen for ultimate protection? Considering I am quite a clunse – this Note 2 is the first phone I have ever owned that surpassed 6 months of survival – I am quite possibly going to need all the protection I can get.
Water resistance
How does the touchscreen react to water? I have always used my smartphones under the shower. Ever since the capacitive touchscreens, they freak out when a certain amount of water hits the screen. The screen will zoom in and out, the keyboard will give all sorters of weird suggestions, or it will just stop working entirely. According to most sources the phone uses a regular capacitive display.
But does it fare any better when wet? Furthermore are there any screen protectors that you can use while regularly getting the phone wet?
Loudspeaker
Well, how loud can it go? I am currently using the note 2 which has pretty reasonable speaker. I use it while watching movies and listening to music in the shower, but I also enjoy the benefits of a properly loud ringtone.
Size
I am afraid to go this route again, but can this guy comfortably fit in one’s pocket? As far as the internet goes, once again, opinions are divided. Most of my jeans can comfortably fit, length wise, 1,5 passports. Does this mean, as I am theorizing, that the Ultra Z will fit too?
Availability
I am from the Netherlands, a small country in Europe you probably won’t know – or would for its legal drugs and prostitution + drinking age and epic parties, and I would love to buy this phone as soon as possible, since I currently do not have a functional phone. Sadly it will only become available on the 13th of September, and I am not even sure this is going to be the 4G LTE version.
Does anybody have any tips where I can buy this phone on a contract? Sadly paying full price on it isn’t an option at the moment. All my savings have, disappeared on many – and quite diverse – spending’s.
I appreciate your help and tips! I secretly hope I am going to be convinced to buy this amazing phone. Also sorry for my bad English – it is not my native language, and also my apologies for this rather long post.
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Since your post is so well written (and you have nothing to apologise about! Better written than most native English speakers, I kid you not.) I felt inclined to respond with my 2 cents.
I have had it for over 3 weeks now
Build quality
Nothing to complain about. In fact better than most manufacturers out there. Nice choice of materials, designed and put together well.
With regard to the screen and the shatterproof film which comes on top of it from the factory, leave it on. Removing it will mean removing the Sony Logo, and also your warranty.
Honestly, it is barely noticeable. In fact, I think most average users are not aware that there is a sheet there. As the name suggests, it is a sheet that prevents glass from flying everywhere WHEN and IF it shatters. It is for safety reason above everything else. It is not there to protect your screen.
So leave it on, and put a 3rd party protector immediately after purchase, and it will be as good as new every time you replace it.
It is up to you if you want to spend a fortune on these protectors. My experience tells me whatever the brand, they do scratch, and need replacing once in a while. Mine is a dollar, and it will last me for up to half a year. Then I will buy another and replace it. Good as new again.
If you are thinking that having a sheet on top of a sheet will hinder performance, rest assured. NO, it won't.
Water resistance and Speakers
Nothing to add, comments above reflect my opinions too
Size
To answer your question specifically, yes, it really is passport x 1.5.
Unless you wear those super-skinny-jeans, it should fit regular jeans no problem.
I am 5'7, wear loose fitting jeans. Levi's. I have about 5 different models, but they all fit without poking their heads out.
It fits. But is it comfortable? As someone said in previous comment, going up and down stairs feels funny a bit. Walking is no problem.
Since it feels well built, it gives no impression of fragility. But sometimes I remind myself not to put it in my back pocket for 2 reason.
Firstly, if I forget about it and sit down, I'd hate to think what would happen.
Secondly, for back pockets, it will poke out. It must be inviting for pick-pocketers.
Ryland Johnson said:
Very nice, polite post.
I would like to help you BUTTTTTT. I also live in Europe, Southern Europe and I have yet to even set eyes on the Sony xperia Z Ultra. I do own the xperia z mobile also the xperia Z tablet.
I have also owned the note and just found it too big for my daily usage. The Ultra is going to be massive. I mean massive. Like you I want one BUT am thinking very hard before I purchase. You see next month there are going to be numerous new devices introduced including some from Samsung, the note 111.
I am unsure about only one area of the Ultra and that is the size. Just how pocket friendly is this going to be? I used to get annoyed with my note as every time I sat in the car the phone would dig into by groin. I ended up only carrying it. Sold it within less than a year of ownership.
I have zero reservations regarding the quality of the Ultra. Sony are a top brand with many years of consumer product research and after sales etc.
I am not going to take the jump to the Ultra until I see what's coming next month. New mobiles from Sony, HTC, Samsung and LG to name a few are going to be released. I don't think any of them will have the same massive screen but that is fine for me. 5.5 or 6" would be the max for me, I think?
Its a dilemma. The Ultra introduced into the EC will be LTE 4G so no worries there. More than that I cannot say?
Kindest regards.
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I love South Europe. It's my holiday destination of choice. I love how spontaneous and happy in general the people are there. The big cities are so alive, a day and at night, and at the country side the people are just so nice. Maybe it has something to do with not raining every other day .
But I guess we’re in the same boat about how this phone compares to the competition. I guess that means that it’s a great time to buy a new phone though.
unk_damnation said:
Here's my impression based on my 8-hours experience with the ZU:
Build quality
Just put a screen protector on top of the shatterproof film. Many reports it won't interfere with the screen sensitivity. I myself haven't got my hand on a screen protector, so I just use the plastic cover with various logo that is on the lcd when you first open the box.. no touch issue :laugh:
Water resistance
The screen reacts like cr*p. Few drops, running water, partially submerged, then the phone will feel all touchy. Random touches. Submerged entirely, there's seem to be no random input anymore but it won't respond any touch. This is a limitation of current capacitive touchscreen technology, I think. Take it out and wipe it dry, good as new.
Loudspeaker
Not too loud, but enough for me. As a ringtone, it maybe not loud enough in a noisy environment. Not sure since haven't tried many scenario
Size
BIG. Width-wise, yes it sits nicely in my (not baggy, but not skinny)jeans pocket. But tall-wise.. well this is where ZU comes sho... no, long. It's almost too long for my taste. When I use jeans with deeper pockets, I can sit down without having my hip speared by the ZU, but smaller pockets, yes, I can feel it, and a bit annoyed. Walking is no problem. Lucky me most of my jeans fall into the deeper-pocket-category
Availability
Can't help you there :silly:
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I guess a stick-on screen protector will indeed the best solution. If it does not interfere with the touch response, we will have the best of both worlds: a “shatterproof” film, and no permanent scratches.
Wiping the screen, but without damage is still a pro. It’s a shame I can’t carelessly use it in the shower or at the pool, but at least there won’t be any damage. I have had phones getting damaged by normal rain. It would be a great feeling, to know that it will still function afterwards.
LordManhattan said:
Well, both sides are glass (DragonTrail i believe), which is "scratch proof" like Gorilla Glass, but that doesn't mean it's shatterproof. Glass is glass after all, and if you drop it on the ground, it'll most certainly shatter. The only thing the shatter protectors do is to keep the screen in one piece once it shatters.
It'll react like any other capacitive screen; not that gracefully. It'll do its thing and you won't have any control, but it'll survive and that's the most important thing.
It looks like the Ultra shares the same problem like its little brother - the Xperia Z. Audio levels are pretty low compared to other devices, but there's a reason for that. They are both waterproof and there's a membrane on the speaker so water doesn't penetrate the speaker and destroys the device.
Luckily (i can't believe i'm saying this) winter is coming, and i'll wear a jacket most of the time when i'm outside, so i hope it won't be a huge problem (which i doubt).
I'm in the same boat as you. I'm from Norway and i haven't even touched the Ultra yet, so it'll be interesting once i get the chance to play with it. I have no idea about who, what or where you can get the Ultra in the Netherlands (once it's released), but my bet is to check your typical big carriers since they are the first ones to receive new devices.
Also, your English is very good, so no excuses are necessary, and your post is excellent. It's quite refreshing to read a good post and not the typical "when can buy ultra store cheap help help" (yes, that's a totaly normal post around here)
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Funny how there are so many Europeans on here, I didn’t see that one coming…
You’re so right about it surviving being the most important thing. It’s just so incredibly nice that Sony actually realizes that these phones are used in the real world. With accidents, and indeed rain. I certainly hope that Samsung and HTC can also start caring about real world durability.
Funny though, how us XDA people change our clothing for our devices. Most people do it the other way around .
But sticking to the big carriers is a great idea. I have to get a new 4G new plan anyways, and at least I am sure that I dealing with a reputable party.
stevefwt said:
I agree with the above.
Build Quality I find to be very good.
Water resistance as mentioned above. Drops of water set off the screen so it will go mad. When fully submerged the screen will not accept touch input. Need to set volume buttons to take pic. Otherwise good clear pics/video.
Loudspeaker - not the greatest, its works. I use bluetooth external speakers.
Size - yes a bit of an issue. It'll fit in your jean pocket but you'll be climbing stairs like you have a wooden leg. I found a money belt that it fits into for carrying on my person. Otherwise it sits on a desk.
You missed battery! - the battery life so far is very good considering the size of the screen.
If I were you I'd wait for the Honami release which is due soon. It has 20MP camera with flash for starters.
All Dutchmen speak/write GOOD english.
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The battery life is a good point. I am -- as I think we all are in here -- a smartphone junkie. The battery on my Note 2 -- a phone famed for its large battery -- doesn’t last till bedtime. So, while I am pretty sure the Ultra Z won’t last me a full day, at least it is not a phone with subpar battery life.
The honami does sound like a great device, but it’s not for me. I feel as if the screen on my Note 2 is too small, so that would be a major downside to the Honami. It is an enormous shame though that the Honami camera isn’t available on the Ultra Z.
bASKOU said:
Hello,
Also concerning about buying it, might jump on it next week. I had a 3G version in my hands and in term of build it is really good, it is big but like I bring a N7 everywhere I feel it even more comfortable to use than a 7" tab.
The only thing that worry me is all the different models, as I actually live in Vietnam and soon go back to French I go for the C6833 that is the LTE version that will be available in Europe and normally is sold as international version. That's worry me for the upcoming customs ROMs, this is often a mess with the baseband. Because the launcher is interesting, but it is hard to believe that now a day we still have launcher with limited scroll.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
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Carrying around a Nexus 7 2013 was indeed my plan before the Xperia Z Ultra got released. If the Honami or Note 2 turn out to be killer devices, I will buy them and a small tablet.
About the basebands, it is indeed a very serious problem. I am already concerned about how big the development community for this phone will be, but this makes it even worse. I thought Samsung was a mess. It would be a major plus for a device to carry all LTE frequencies including LTE-A in addition to HSPDA+. When travelling that’d be great, and custom roms wouldn’t have to be baseband specific.
jewelkobayashi said:
Since your post is so well written (and you have nothing to apologise about! Better written than most native English speakers, I kid you not.) I felt inclined to respond with my 2 cents.
I have had it for over 3 weeks now
Build quality
Nothing to complain about. In fact better than most manufacturers out there. Nice choice of materials, designed and put together well.
With regard to the screen and the shatterproof film which comes on top of it from the factory, leave it on. Removing it will mean removing the Sony Logo, and also your warranty.
Honestly, it is barely noticeable. In fact, I think most average users are not aware that there is a sheet there. As the name suggests, it is a sheet that prevents glass from flying everywhere WHEN and IF it shatters. It is for safety reason above everything else. It is not there to protect your screen.
So leave it on, and put a 3rd party protector immediately after purchase, and it will be as good as new every time you replace it.
It is up to you if you want to spend a fortune on these protectors. My experience tells me whatever the brand, they do scratch, and need replacing once in a while. Mine is a dollar, and it will last me for up to half a year. Then I will buy another and replace it. Good as new again.
If you are thinking that having a sheet on top of a sheet will hinder performance, rest assured. NO, it won't.
Water resistance and Speakers
Nothing to add, comments above reflect my opinions too
Size
To answer your question specifically, yes, it really is passport x 1.5.
Unless you wear those super-skinny-jeans, it should fit regular jeans no problem.
I am 5'7, wear loose fitting jeans. Levi's. I have about 5 different models, but they all fit without poking their heads out.
It fits. But is it comfortable? As someone said in previous comment, going up and down stairs feels funny a bit. Walking is no problem.
Since it feels well built, it gives no impression of fragility. But sometimes I remind myself not to put it in my back pocket for 2 reason.
Firstly, if I forget about it and sit down, I'd hate to think what would happen.
Secondly, for back pockets, it will poke out. It must be inviting for pick-pocketers.
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You have a good point about the warranty being voided by removing the shatterproof film. I will try a cheap screen protector first. I was under the impression that they were quite bad, but if they are just as good it’s a nice way to save money.
A passport x1.5 would be a great size though. A definite upgrade from the Note 2, but still manageable. I am the same height, and also wear Levi’s so I guess I will be all right.
which model for at&t lte
Road Trip said:
Dear XDA community,
This is my first post here, so I would like to start off by thanking all of the hard working, and amazingly talented, developers whom have improved many of my android devices; adding something new and fresh, and making it feel like a new device time after time.
After having an unfortunate accident with my Galaxy Note 2 – two unfortunate accidents actually, first I smashed the screen, and then I dropped it on the back cover, warping the whole device, forcing up the whole plastic frame, and making it unable to charge – quite a critical function, isn’t it – I am looking for a new phone to buy. Now rather than later.
When I saw the Xperia Z Ultra though, I fell in love. I love the design, I love the physical size, I love the slimness and I love the performance.
There are some things I am concerned about though. I would love any of you guys advice on this.
Build quality
I am seeing mixed opinions about the build quality of the Xperia Z Ultra, and the recent Xperia phones in general. On the one hand Sony itself is touting that the screen is extremely strong, which seems to be the case judging by the drop tests on YouTube. Then again there seem to be many threads on the lack of durability, and how the screen can suddenly crack.
I am also wondering how you guys solve the problem with the shatterproof film. On the one hand, it is a great idea, but on the other hand I would not want my phone to be full of scratches. Can one simply apply one of those tempered glass screen protectors over the screen for ultimate protection? Considering I am quite a clunse – this Note 2 is the first phone I have ever owned that surpassed 6 months of survival – I am quite possibly going to need all the protection I can get.
Water resistance
How does the touchscreen react to water? I have always used my smartphones under the shower. Ever since the capacitive touchscreens, they freak out when a certain amount of water hits the screen. The screen will zoom in and out, the keyboard will give all sorters of weird suggestions, or it will just stop working entirely. According to most sources the phone uses a regular capacitive display.
But does it fare any better when wet? Furthermore are there any screen protectors that you can use while regularly getting the phone wet?
Loudspeaker
Well, how loud can it go? I am currently using the note 2 which has pretty reasonable speaker. I use it while watching movies and listening to music in the shower, but I also enjoy the benefits of a properly loud ringtone.
Size
I am afraid to go this route again, but can this guy comfortably fit in one’s pocket? As far as the internet goes, once again, opinions are divided. Most of my jeans can comfortably fit, length wise, 1,5 passports. Does this mean, as I am theorizing, that the Ultra Z will fit too?
Availability
I am from the Netherlands, a small country in Europe you probably won’t know – or would for its legal drugs and prostitution + drinking age and epic parties, and I would love to buy this phone as soon as possible, since I currently do not have a functional phone. Sadly it will only become available on the 13th of September, and I am not even sure this is going to be the 4G LTE version.
Does anybody have any tips where I can buy this phone on a contract? Sadly paying full price on it isn’t an option at the moment. All my savings have, disappeared on many – and quite diverse – spending’s.
I appreciate your help and tips! I secretly hope I am going to be convinced to buy this amazing phone. Also sorry for my bad English – it is not my native language, and also my apologies for this rather long post.
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Can someone confirm that the international C6806 can b used for North American AT&T LTE bands. dont want to pre-order wrong model
ddiddy22 said:
Can someone confirm that the international C6806 can b used for North American AT&T LTE bands. dont want to pre-order wrong model
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Of everything I read, the C6806 is good for North America and work on AT&T but don't have wifi call. After the international version is the c6833 that go europe LTE bands too.
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Road Trip said:
Carrying around a Nexus 7 2013 was indeed my plan before the Xperia Z Ultra got released. If the Honami or Note 2 turn out to be killer devices, I will buy them and a small tablet.
About the basebands, it is indeed a very serious problem. I am already concerned about how big the development community for this phone will be, but this makes it even worse. I thought Samsung was a mess. It would be a major plus for a device to carry all LTE frequencies including LTE-A in addition to HSPDA+. When travelling that’d be great, and custom roms wouldn’t have to be baseband specific.
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Sure, I to wonder how large the community will be. Baseband troubles was a mess on the HTC sensation between 4G 3G and AT&T models. Now it is fine, thanks to the work of the devs.
Right, but they always feel the need to limit bands on the phone. Way to win more money. Why make simple (for the customers) with low margin when we can make complex (for the customers) with high margin?
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Cracked screen, warranty replacement unit issued - UK

So, a couple of weeks back the top of my screen got less and less responsive, then went numb.
The display was still working fine, just the touch had gone funky!
Previously I had updated to first official 4.2.2, and the phone used to get super hot, I didn't think anything of it as most of my other devices did the same at one point or another. Turns out my phone had become a casualty of the overheating / hairline crack fault.
I spoke to an online advisor who booked me in to have it assessed and repaired, and right before I sent it off I showed my housemate the waterproof function. Turns out that had failed too... an hour or so later the screen went murky and the indicator had turned slightly pink!
I wrote a little cover note explaining that the device also seemed to have suffered water damage, and sent it off expecting to have to pay to get it back.
Got an email from Sony Xperia Customer Support today confirming that:
"engineers have attempted to repair your handset under the terms and conditions of the Sony Limited Warranty. The fault on your handset, although covered by warranty, was not repairable so we have provided a like for like exchange unit"
So looks like if the worst does happen, they're being nice about it in the UK too
Lucky u...
Some user cant claim as the sceen crack itself...
Even water damage were to be blame to the user when the sticker turn red...
CheesySeb said:
So, a couple of weeks back the top of my screen got less and less responsive, then went numb.
The display was still working fine, just the touch had gone funky!
Previously I had updated to first official 4.2.2, and the phone used to get super hot, I didn't think anything of it as most of my other devices did the same at one point or another. Turns out my phone had become a casualty of the overheating / hairline crack fault.
I spoke to an online advisor who booked me in to have it assessed and repaired, and right before I sent it off I showed my housemate the waterproof function. Turns out that had failed too... an hour or so later the screen went murky and the indicator had turned slightly pink!
I wrote a little cover note explaining that the device also seemed to have suffered water damage, and sent it off expecting to have to pay to get it back.
Got an email from Sony Xperia Customer Support today confirming that:
"engineers have attempted to repair your handset under the terms and conditions of the Sony Limited Warranty. The fault on your handset, although covered by warranty, was not repairable so we have provided a like for like exchange unit"
So looks like if the worst does happen, they're being nice about it in the UK too
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Hoping they say the same about mine. My screen has got serious water damage. Roughly how long did you need to wait before they emailed you?
Thanks.
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Hoping they say the same about mine. My screen has got serious water damage. Roughly how long did you need to wait before they emailed you?
Thanks.
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took nearly 2 weeks. The email was only sent yesterday and my new phone arrived today Seems they've given me my old back panel too, before it got damaged there was some crap that got inbetween my protective case and the back of the phone which etched away at the plastic film on the glass. The new one has marks all in the same places but I have a new phone carcass, screen, motherboard, IMEI etc
And the water sticker turned pink after my screen died, before I sent it off to service I stuck it in a bowl of tap water to show my pal, 2 or so hours later all it did was vibrate when you pressed the power button, then I checked the litmus and BAM! pink.
Nice to know companies offer decent customer service, I hate a Moto RAZR and they replaced a broken screen without question for free which was a great suprise.
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Nice to know companies offer decent customer service, I hate a Moto RAZR and they replaced a broken screen without question for free which was a great suprise.
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Wish I would have thought of that when the screen hairline cracked on my xt910 :'(
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took nearly 2 weeks. The email was only sent yesterday and my new phone arrived today Seems they've given me my old back panel too, before it got damaged there was some crap that got inbetween my protective case and the back of the phone which etched away at the plastic film on the glass. The new one has marks all in the same places but I have a new phone carcass, screen, motherboard, IMEI etc
And the water sticker turned pink after my screen died, before I sent it off to service I stuck it in a bowl of tap water to show my pal, 2 or so hours later all it did was vibrate when you pressed the power button, then I checked the litmus and BAM! pink.
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hey, an update on what happened with mine..
Basically same happened to mine as yours.. although it was just my screen went dull after water damage.. Then I went to Egypt, and on the flight there the screen started acting weird and wouldnt let me touch anywhere, and the water sensors went from very pale pink to red! So I got home on 15th May and sent it the next day.
Received it back on the 28th May and straight away noticed that the top left (charger) port flap was missing the protective seal, meaning waterproofing feature wouldn't work. I phoned them right away and they said I was to send it back. I explained to them that I'd need to delay sending it away as I was going away for 3 weeks. So now I'm back I was just about to package it all up etc ready for sending off tomorrow.. I took of my case (cheap plastic one that didn't fit very tightly) and the side bezel came straight off, aslong as the bottom bezel!!
So, I've attached a letter along with the phone explaining my rage lmao. The phone I sent was only 3 weeks old and I get it back and there's massive scratches on rear glass etc!
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hey, an update on what happened with mine..
Received it back on the 28th May and straight away noticed that the top left (charger) port flap was missing the protective seal, meaning waterproofing feature wouldn't work. I phoned them right away and they said I was to send it back. I explained to them that I'd need to delay sending it away as I was going away for 3 weeks. So now I'm back I was just about to package it all up etc ready for sending off tomorrow.. I took of my case (cheap plastic one that didn't fit very tightly) and the side bezel came straight off, aslong as the bottom bezel!!
So, I've attached a letter along with the phone explaining my rage lmao. The phone I sent was only 3 weeks old and I get it back and there's massive scratches on rear glass etc!
Pic attached of bezel.
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God that's horrendous!
I must admit the phone I got back had scratches on the back too, but so did the one I sent in, so I thought the kept my battery cover like all the old phone warranties used to (anyone else remember that?)
Only complaint I've had with the replacement is that the speaker on this one is terrible!
On my original phone the bass from the speaker shook the phone in my hand. This one is just weak and completely lacking in bass
Can't be without it again though, so for now I'm using the GPe ROM as it seems to offer the loudest sound output for this particular handset.
Not sure if my next handset will be another Sony or not at the moment, I do live my phone (battery life, signal reception, and screen quality are insanely pleasing to me) but there are little niggles with touch responsiveness, speaker output (yes I know they trade off volume for watertightness, but my Mrs Z1 and the Z2s are way better) and Bluetooth. The Bluetooth has been shocking on both my c6833s.
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God that's horrendous!
I must admit the phone I got back had scratches on the back too, but so did the one I sent in, so I thought the kept my battery cover like all the old phone warranties used to (anyone else remember that?)
Only complaint I've had with the replacement is that the speaker on this one is terrible!
On my original phone the bass from the speaker shook the phone in my hand. This one is just weak and completely lacking in bass
Can't be without it again though, so for now I'm using the GPe ROM as it seems to offer the loudest sound output for this particular handset.
Not sure if my next handset will be another Sony or not at the moment, I do live my phone (battery life, signal reception, and screen quality are insanely pleasing to me) but there are little niggles with touch responsiveness, speaker output (yes I know they trade off volume for watertightness, but my Mrs Z1 and the Z2s are way better) and Bluetooth. The Bluetooth has been shocking on both my c6833s.
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Horrendous indeed lol!
When I sent mine in was literally 3 weeks old and hadn't been used that much since I was still using my S4 at the time and had case and protector on since the day I got it so was almost brand new.
Regards to the volume I've noticed the same, where as my partners Ultra is much louder and has more bass.
Im thinking about getting rid of the ultra after only having it a very short 3 months lol. If they put a flash in it, improved sound, and the awful touch screen then I'd defo upgrade to that, but seems like Sony has abandoned the ultra's production !
Don't forget, the ZU2 is due out soon enough... That's the trouble with these fancy phones coming out every 6 months! I wonder if it's some sort of kernel thing re: speaker bass, I've tried a few but no success as yet. Touch response seems better on doom kernel for no apparent reason, afaik it's the exact same touchscreen module in the doomlords kernel as you get with stock but it seems to work better. Also religious cleaning of the screen helps, and I don't run a screen protector.

Cracked Screen. No more Sony for me

Cracked my screen on my ultra yesterday. Dont know how it happened. Pulled it out of the pocket and found hairline cracks.
Had the Sony Z1 and same thing happened.
These Sony screens must be the worst quality in the high end business. What is extremely annoying is that the cracked screen makes the phone unreceptive to touch actions from your fingers. I was left stranded for a whole day with no communication.
Ive cracked my iphone screen previously but even with heavy cracks and iphone still works. A small hairline crack on a Sony however renders it useless. It is for this reason I am not going to buy another Sony phone.
I don't mind the fact it can crack but to crack randomly and not work at all after a crack is unacceptable. Looks like back to the Iphone or Note 4 for me.
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Dont know how it happened. Pulled it out of the pocket and found hairline cracks.
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Post a picture of it if you can, it's pretty easy to tell how the screen broke if you examine the cracks.
It really seems like this may be a production fault of a sizeable set of devices, while the rest are built better. I remember one person posting that Sony had acknowledged this to be a problem when a cracked phone was turned in for warranty repair and offered a free replacement. There's a bunch of articles about this. Seems to affect the Z2 as well, so I understand your decision. :/
I think it's such a shame - and I couldn't agree more.
I had the same thing happen to my Z2 while it was sitting on the bed, switched back to my Z Ultra now and I'm constantly worried about the same happening with that. It seems to be a common problem across all the z series phones which leads me to believe it's down to the crappy dragontrail glass they use, I wish they'd use gorilla glass. My one x screen went through hell, even had a coke can(340 grams!) fall square on the screen from an overhead shelf a meter and a half above and was fine (to my amazement).
I know people are going to say it's glass it can crack (well yes - no **** sherlock) but the Sony glass just cracks to easily, either that or their qc is awful. I have to admit I was a sceptic and assumed people were just being heavy handed until I experienced it first hand, and I baby all my devices.
It's a shame because I love the Sony devices but I don't want something I have to carry around in bubblewrap, hopefully the next gen Samsung/Htc phones are waterproof then I'll jump ship.
Thing is Sony know about the issue, watchdog UK covered it a year ago but whether they actually replace it under warranty is a complete lottery. I have insurance but it's still unnecessary hassle
Use an ultra thin case, solves potential cracks. It's all about the amount of pressure in the pocket. A device this thin and large is more prone to cracking, obviously. The Achilles heel is located at the power button... Babying this device is a must, requires attention and dedication
Thanks Buddy. I was about to buy a Sony Z Ultra, bcoz of its larger display. I am a rough user of phones. Even on some second hand sales sites, I found some ads selling cracked screen phones ( nobody buys such cracked screen phone but ie different issue). I shall settle for smaller screen phones. Bye.
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It really seems like this may be a production fault of a sizeable set of devices, while the rest are built better. I remember one person posting that Sony had acknowledged this to be a problem when a cracked phone was turned in for warranty repair and offered a free replacement. There's a bunch of articles about this. Seems to affect the Z2 as well, so I understand your decision. :/
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Have not had a single issue on screen cracking or anything of my Z1 and I had it for almost a year now.
I also cracked mine
I cracked mine by wearing swim trunks that were just too small for this phone and I sat down with it in the pocket and that was that. But i love it so I bought another. And I have just now finished turning my broken Z Ultra into a media center via XBMC, and an MHL adapter. Im thinking of making a short guide soon because while the phone is useless without functioning touch input, the guts are stil powerful, and its a shame to let that processing power go to waste. This a very low power consuming device when compared to htpcs.
Yeah, I will be moving on to the Nexus 6 because of this. I love my ultra, but I am already on my second phone because my 1st cracked in my pocket. Two of my buddies also had their's crack in their pockets too. We are big guys that wear baggy pants, so it wasn't like too much added stress. I will keep my ultra, but will turn to the nexus 6 as my daily driver. Honestly I don't think it is a matter of if the screen on this ultra will crack, but a matter of when.
I suggest iron brick and abuse it silly

Any cracked screens or back panels?

I woukd like to get a z3c but have seen numerous complaints that the screens and glass back panels on both the z3 and z3c are cracking for no apparant reason because the phones are too fragile.
Because of this I have started to consider the z5c. Can anyone confirm if the z5 series is also susceptible to the same issue or has the problem been addressed?
On another note, I cant say Im impressed with the amount of ads scattered all over the pages of this forum!
Thanks
Don't believe to everything. I mean, if i do something with my phone accidentally of corse i'll rant that it cracked by itself. And most of these rants were because of users did something. I had both z3c and now z5c and no sign of selfcracking of either glass, don't believe it'll crack just like that.
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Don't believe to everything. I mean, if i do something with my phone accidentally of corse i'll rant that it cracked by itself. And most of these rants were because of users did something. I had both z3c and now z5c and no sign of selfcracking of either glass, don't believe it'll crack just like that.
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Yes it will crack just like that. My z3c did. I had not want to believe it was possible, just like you, until it cracked as I was holding it in my hand typing on whatsapp. I hope my z5c won't do the same.
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tudork said:
Yes it will crack just like that. My z3c did. I had not want to believe it was possible, just like you, until it cracked as I was holding it in my hand typing on whatsapp. I hope my z5c won't do the same.
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Then i don't really know, why mine didn't crack adn it even fell on concrete few times? Did i have bot Z3C and Z5C like a Superman edition or am i missing something???
Regarding the " people say it broke by itself", of course there are always those who say "I didn't done nothing" when they break something, but compared to the other glass-back phones like the iPhone 4/4S and Nexus 4 there are waaaay more "it broke itself" reports about the Z3C. So I find it doubtful those are just rants.
From what I understood the issue is not that "glass is fragile", but that the Z3C has a design error - the glass is under constant pressure by the frame. So if the glass has any natural faults in it it will eventually crack - without any external cause.
Considering I just ordered my Z5C I really hope Sony fixed that particular issue. In either case, I also ordered vinyl back for mine, party because the back is really slippery, partly because that way I most likely won't even notice if the back is cracked (I hope at least).
Still, overall I would be happier if Sony transferred the person who insists on glass backs for their phone somewhere else where he cannot do much damage - maybe to their Betamax division - and used a fully polycarbonate hull like they did with the Z4 Tablet. GLass backs are and always will be a stupid form before function design decision.
i had so many phones made from glass and had zero problem with it. Just take care of your **** and you should be fine.
Yes mines has cracked only week old
Staggered how it could have happened not dropped and WHY would I slam it down on any surface?! Call into Vodafone tomorrow first thing. Cracked over corner right across camera.
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Then i don't really know, why mine didn't crack adn it even fell on concrete few times? Did i have bot Z3C and Z5C like a Superman edition or am i missing something???
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Why? Because of a simple thing called chance. Not all z3c phones spontaneously cracked. But a few of them did. You cannot control it. Nobody can. But it could still happen. Be glad it has not happened to you and be nice when someone says it happened to them, instead of not believing because it hasn't happened to you. It is as if you don't believe that someone can have a car crash because you have never had one.
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My z5 green version has already cracked...disappointed. My z3c was more durable
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My z5 green version has already cracked...disappointed. My z3c was more durable
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This is the reason why I like thick phones :|
Between my wife and I, we've had a z1c, z3c and z5c. Haven't had any cracking problems with any of them.
This sort of happened to my sister. She had the phone for a while without problem. I was sat in the car with her and saw it fall about half a foot onto the plastic divider between the driver and passenger seat. This cracked the screen. Although it was dropped it's perplexing that it broke as that's not the kind of fall where you'd expect the screen to break. It's been repaired but it's still a bit of a minor mystery how it managed to break from such a minor fall. We were pretty shocked it was broken being such a minor fall as to not induce a sense or panic or expectation of breakage.
It's possible that it's been strained before or age has taken its toll such as temperature variations.
Mysterious screen breaks can definitely happen. Someone should create an app that keeps track of knocks, bumps, pressure, etc.

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