Samsung Z3 Launched in India, the second Tizen Smartphone - Tizen Software Development

The Samsung Z3 has been launched in India today, and is the second Tizen based Smartphone. Here is the launch Information:
http://www.tizenexperts.com/2015/10...unches-in-india-on-sale-next-week-21-october/
Available from next week.

the phone is available for sale also on eay.com and ebay uk...
the price is good...anybody interested?

Instructions to enable USB Debugging mode
Start the Phone application
Type * # 84936 # – The numbers 84936 actually spell out TIZEN
Select Icon to enable Developer Option
Open the Settings application
Scroll to the bottom and you will see the new Developer Options submenu
Select the icon next to USB Debugging

@bogdan_wrc
Your Z3 arrived?
Which Firmware version was installed?
*#1234#
Best Regards
Edit 1.
Latest Firmware is now AOK1... compiled in November:
http://www.tizenexperts.com/2015/11...tware-firmware-update-in-india-z300hodd0aok1/
Here in XDA we can also talk much better about Odin...

not yet...it was paid on 30 OCT and the seller said 18 days...
good to know about latest firmware...
i will post impressions when it arrives..

bogdan_wrc said:
not yet...it was paid on 30 OCT and the seller said 18 days...
good to know about latest firmware...
i will post impressions when it arrives..
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I am asking about Firmwareversion because older Firmwares can create trouble... to update...
Z300HDDU0AOIH for instance... and earlier Firmware...
So better check Firmwareversion before you use Odin.
Z300HDDU0AOJ4 should be safe and ready for update via Odin to:
Z300HDDU0AOJ6
Z300HODD0AOK1
Best Regards

and if i get an older version..shall i update via OTA only?

bogdan_wrc said:
and if i get an older version..shall i update via OTA only?
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If device is arrived... you will find answer.
Now and without device it makes no sence...
Best Regards

probably when the device arrives, i dont have time for forums )) and i want a clean install

OTA is available and obviously the easiest solution.
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phone arrived, updates through OTA ..everything is fine.

Do you think it will ever be available in the USA? Or will they wait until it is proven more?

my opinion is, that they will develop another phone, better than Z3, before launching it in US... tizen store its still in its early days, apps are very few..and most of them are like android apps from 4-5 years ago...
on the other side, the battery is amazing..i got 3-4 days of normal use, while on my Note 4 i got...maximum 2. at least double the time of usage.
the phone is VERY good for its price... i paid around $180 for it, shipment included...
once the big "players" develop good apps for emails, bank, G+,uber...games... tizen will be welcomed in EURO and USA...
after 1 year with Z3, probably a better "Z5" with better tizen store will be available worldwide...

That's sad oh well.
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if you use the phone for its primary purposes..or as a second phone..its a wonderful phone.
its got Fb, Whatsapp, email, browser...everything you normally need. it lacks additional apps to make the life extra easy...

somebody at samsung read my mind )
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_is_...end_tizen_phones_due_next_year-news-15059.php

bogdan_wrc said:
somebody at samsung read my mind )
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_is_...end_tizen_phones_due_next_year-news-15059.php
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What do you think specs wise? For the z8, I'm assuming:
1080p screen
2.5 GB of RAM
2800Mah battery
5mp front camera
13mp back camera
Dual LED flash
Dual Sim
Micro sdxc card slot
Dual speakers
Fingerprint scanner
Gorilla glass 4
5.5 inch screen
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dual speakers means reduction screen to front ratio...and samsung is not a fan of this solution...not yet.
the rest..seems doable...
with 2600 battery i got 3-4 days of usage..twice as much as my former note 4...its amazing..

bogdan_wrc said:
dual speakers means reduction screen to front ratio...and samsung is not a fan of this solution...not yet.
the rest..seems doable...
with 2600 battery i got 3-4 days of usage..twice as much as my former note 4...its amazing..
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Yeah, you're right. No dual speakers
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the rest of the features will make the next tizen phone a really good option for the EUR and US markets, but due to the increase in price, probably will lose the current markets where the Z3 is for sale..
also, a little tizen update is necessary..a more polished and experienced OS...
dual apps on screen, light sensor... s-voice...change the 3rd hardware button to match note 4 si s6 usage and not as "options" anymore.. are also really welcomed...

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Sony Smartwatch 2?

Is anyone using a sony smartwatch with the note 3? Does this even work?
I would find this a great combination since the smartwatch is way superior to the galaxy gear.
lexluthor721 said:
Is anyone using a sony smartwatch with the note 3? Does this even work?
I would find this a great combination since the smartwatch is way superior to the galaxy gear.
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Have not used the Sony 2 but no calling capability or camera so I do not think it even comes close and the gear is only just out so hopefully lots more to come.
I read that even Samsung executive's aint as happy with the gear as hoped because it limited in ways thats too late to change, but they are going to make a 2014 edition or V2 which is already designed, so for the cost of the gear I'd wait at least until January and see what happens.
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budgierless said:
I read that even Samsung executive's aint as happy with the gear as hoped because it limited in ways thats too late to change, but they are going to make a 2014 edition or V2 which is already designed, so for the cost of the gear I'd wait at least until January and see what happens.
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How can it be limited Have You Seen What it does
lucky for me the callling and the camera are the only things i probs wouldnt use so the sony smart watch is a great choice, i ordered it yesterday
stormerjack said:
lucky for me the callling and the camera are the only things i probs wouldnt use so the sony smart watch is a great choice, i ordered it yesterday
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I hope you enjoy it but for me it's not even close
Hey don't shoot the messenger dude, like I said its what I read, and it was on Engadget's blog and I trust their tech news,
But just to add abit of spice to my reply, yea I no what it can do and im very optimistic about what it will do via firmware etc but the hardware issue of battery life is not an easy work around, maybe for modders & hackers but not the general customers.
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budgierless said:
I read that even Samsung executive's aint as happy with the gear as hoped because it limited in ways thats too late to change, but they are going to make a 2014 edition or V2 which is already designed, so for the cost of the gear I'd wait at least until January and see what happens.
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Let me guess read it on the internet? I keep finding most people never had a smart watch to compare to. I have been wearing a moto Activ for the last year and this is a great up grade of that smart watch. There is no "smart watch" without a phone, all of them are dependent on a phone for updates.
Notifications work really well able to read most of my emails and decide if I want to read the rest. This works best at work and home as the phone can now sit across the room on a charger. The problems come from the gmail app which I don't use. I have several email address and like to check them in one place.
Speaker phone works really well, was quite surprised but the phone allows for the Bluetooth headset and watch to be connected at the same time. If I answer on headset audio goes there, if i answer on watch audio goes there.
You can install more than 10 apps but can only have 10 apps on quick launcher. There are apps released that allow you to create your own watch faces and details, another one looks at the local pictures from the phone on the watch. I would also guess that it will be streaming video from the phone to the watch shortly.
Photo quality is really pretty good if lighting is ok.
Almost forgot battery life is about 2 days and fully charges in about an hour. The moto started out lasting only a day and via firmware updates got it to 2-3 days about the same time as the Galaxy Gear.
Finally, I don't expect an iwatch to support other vendors. When I bought the moto activ it didn't support any other phones but motorola's. You had to run a special app or the watch was stand-alone, if the app crashed (did often) it was standalone. The Gear and Galaxy just work together much better than the combination of vendors. The gear will support other Samsung phones later this month. If I was Samsung I wouldn't support every android phone, if you want a Gear get a Galaxy!
budgierless said:
Hey don't shoot the messenger dude, like I said its what I read, and it was on Engadget's blog and I trust their tech news,
But just to add abit of spice to my reply, yea I no what it can do and im very optimistic about what it will do via firmware etc but the hardware issue of battery life is not an easy work around, maybe for modders & hackers but not the general customers.
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Well i don't agree battery life on smart phones can be very poor yes of course i would like my phone to last a week (charge on Sunday night) and a smart watch to last a month but technology is just not able to do that we except that with phones and I think if we want the benefits of a s watch some of us will except that about them as well,don't wait for gear 2 or I-watch battery technology is just not able to give us longer Without Taking Out Features
hhadrian said:
Well i don't agree battery life on smart phones can be very poor yes of course i would like my phone to last a week (charge on Sunday night) and a smart watch to last a month but technology is just not able to do that we except that with phones and I think if we want the benefits of a s watch some of us will except that about them as well,don't wait for gear 2 or I-watch battery technology is just not able to give us longer Without Taking Out Features
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I do totally agree with you, but the waiting aspect which I pointed to was for the case of what maybe announced in the next 8 weeks, and if nothing then I buy one myself but as I said the gear isn't cheap so if a new version is only 2-3 months away then I'd rather wait for the latest.
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gshaw1967 said:
Let me guess read it on the internet?
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Well after all, They can’t put anything on the Internet that isn’t true.
Bonjour.
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Galaxy Gear vs Sony Smartwatch 2

Hey All,
I will be receiving my free Sony SW 2 in a few days, which was on backorder from when I bought my Xperia Z Ultra which I've since sold to move over to the Note 3. My question is which do you guys think is the better accessory to the Note 3 - the Galaxy Gear or Sony SW 2 and why? I personally am thinking of selling the SW 2 to purchase the Gear, but before I do, i'd like to know the pros and cons.
Thanks - and sorry if this has been posted prior. I searched and did not see much on this.
Cheers
The gear hasn't been brought to its full potential. I'd wait for the Google watch or the qualcomm smart watch
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very good question !
I am looking for answer myself : )
I v got curently SW2 ,
smartwatch 2
pros:
better looking as galaxy gear
much better battery life (SW2 live for about really 3-4days!)
when you recive email you see what and who wrote to you (on G gear you only see notification and need to get phone and check)
microUSB charger (on gera you have to back to home and use special charger)
much quicker MENU on SW2 than galaxy gear
all the time you see what time is it right now (dimmer screen is on)
galaxy gear compare to SW2
pros:
better display
you can answer the phone and speak
BT4.0 on board better coverage than BT3.0
video camera
THATS ALL
probably I will try galaxy gear but I think it is no good enough than SW2 !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465821
There is great progress being made here....
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what block me to buy it immediatly
is -> no information inside lettter in gmail
Received my Sony SW 2 yesterday. Haven't unboxed it but from what I can see it looks like a very nice watch. Reading the Galaxy Gear threads, it seems like there are a ton of issues with the GG, so I may hold on to my new SW 2 for a while longer and see what developes!
Thanks to all who've inputted their opinions!!
I own galaxy gear....special charger means a little box with micro usb connector. The size is.a little bit more than a zippo.lighter. The menu is a lot faster.in.the.real product and the platform for gear is getting a lot of dev attention. We have.Root. And we can.install any app from Google play. And I am sure that Samsung will.bring updates to the firmware soon. As for.mail...if you use your Samsung email.acount for Gmail you can see the.content.of. Your mail, for example. There is an app.on the Samsung store for Facebook which works great. It's a well start and.will be.better. With future software updates. P.S. 1.You can really use the.gear as a handsfree, I use that while driving and.my hand.is.on.the.weel. 2. I miss IP67. 3. Battery last at least 24 h with heavy usage and the.charging time is minimum, aprox 1 hour.
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so you really recommended galaxy gear much more than SW2 ?
nowy57 said:
what block me to buy it immediatly
is -> no information inside lettter in gmail
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If you use the stock Email you do Get the Email on the gear.
http://swappa.com/listing/ZZV485/view
note 2 for sale
I understand that there is a gmail notification but no content I tought ?
?
nowy57 said:
I understand that there is a gmail notification but no content I tought ?
?
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You thought wrong
http://swappa.com/listing/ZZV485/view
note 2 for sale
cherylbaker said:
You thought wrong
http://swappa.com/listing/ZZV485/view
note 2 for sale
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wow
so I am goint to buy it
thanks !
any special thread to install or root tools for it ?
The Gear is way too expensive for what you pay vs what you get. I'm dying to buy one but I cant bring myself to piss 3 bills away on something that has hardly any functionality. I hope they update OT soon
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/samsung-galaxy-gear
I bought galaxy gear
cons:
looks much worse on wrist than SW2
I tought coverage signal will be much betterthat SW2 (BT3.0) but I think is a little worse than SW2 - serious !
SW2 has capacative under screen button wich is a lot qiucker to navigate
ooh I forgot .. much more SW2 comfortyble to wear on it , gear is not to flexible on wrist as SW2 wich fit perfect
I dont see by now much more better feeling using galaxy gear as :
better screen AMOLED and density
I am selling galaxy gear by now !
maybe next time , v2 ?
200pounds for it I want
checked Galaxy Gear and for me it's not worth it
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I heard only bad opinion about GG
but I need to check it on my own
now I know - we have to wait for v2 - cheaper , better build, better looking ..
of course , I see much potential on XDA , olny wait and software will be much better
but the oters is no good as SW2 or even pebble watch
nowy57 said:
I heard only bad opinion about GG
but I need to check it on my own
now I know - we have to wait for v2 - cheaper , better build, better looking ..
of course , I see much potential on XDA , olny wait and software will be much better
but the oters is no good as SW2 or even pebble watch
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You convinced me not to get it. THANK YOU!!!
I was seriously contemplating dropping the 3bones on it but finally someone who doesn't only have good things to say about it.
nowy57 said:
I understand that there is a gmail notification but no content I tought ?
?
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You get a notification for gmail but it tells you to look at your phone. It doesn't show you the content of the gmail itself. If you use the stock email client and just use that you get to read the content.
Scribbled From My Note 3
I have the GG and I love it. Depending on what you need of course.
Here are some good things that I like
-I love checking my notification when I am in class. I don't care about emails. I get quite a lot text message and checking from watch is really useful to me.
-I also use it as headset when I don't have my bluetooth headset. Just a quick call/answer and found it to be quite good. Not for long conversation though.
-Battery life is more than decent. I can use a lot and still have about 30-40% left at the end of the night. I have no doubt it can get 24 hours battery.
-Pedometer is not so good. I don't use it since it's not accurate.
-Camera is not bad for quick pics. I take some pics of lecture, signs and it works great.
-Music control is awesome. Just wish my note 3 speaker is louder.
-Ability to install regular app through ADB is genius. I can actually install some useful app such as calculator.
Now bad things and wish they will improve
-More apps
-Water proof/Sweat Proof
-Longer battery life is always a welcome
-Notifications from all apps that I use(I don't like using every apps from samsung just to get notifications) This is a huge huge drawback IMO.
Those are my use of GG and I love it for my needs. Your mileage may vary. I hope the god of all devs from XDA find a way to hack the GG and make all the notifications pushed to GG of what user specify. This will make GG a truely fantastic device.

[Q] shouldn't we have heard about a successor by now?

starting to get antsy about a new phone around this time of year and was wondering about a z ultra 2
Yes, we should. DoomLord said that we won't see an Ultra 2, while some othrr info says we will, but we should've seen something by now. A leak or something, but we haven't seen anything at all, so I'm starting to think that we won't see a Ultra 2.
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Maybe they replace it with the t2 ultra...so z ultra 2 wont be coming...maybe..
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it would have to be a large screen otherwise what's the point? i'd have to go back to samsung. not sure who else would do a phone that's comparable tbh
I have been saerching through the net and emailing Sony but there are absolutely no response. 1st gen Z Ultra is a very decent phablet with few problems that can be solved. Sony is making a mistake by discontinuing this product. There will be no rival phablet against the note series this year if Sony does not release ZU 2. Big mistake. Such a nice phone going to dust. If I can find Jun Katsunuma's mail I will be mailing him everyday.
Check out this. It lists three codenames for coming Sony devices. Leo and Aires, which probably are respectively Z3 and Z3 Compact, and Pegasus, which is unknown. Possibly an Ultra? I wouldn't be too worried, anyway. I agree that our Ultra is still an excellent device and will hold up very well until the next evolution in SoCs (64-bit), at which point we'll probably get a successor.
There will be no direct successor or Xperia Z Ultra 2. However, there will be a newly named item with a slightly smaller screen (6.2") with all the top end hardware and specs. There will also be a 5.4" version. Here's what Sony has developed and will put to use shortly:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Japa....2-1440x2560-pixel-resolution-screens_id48768
Sebring5 said:
There will be no direct successor or Xperia Z Ultra 2. However, there will be a newly named item with a slightly smaller screen (6.2") with all the top end hardware and specs. There will also be a 5.4" version. Here's what Sony has developed and will put to use shortly:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Japa....2-1440x2560-pixel-resolution-screens_id48768
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My contract is up in October and eligible for a free upgrade in August so a new Ultra would tie in nicely but I'm sceptical as to whether we'll see a successor. The original device was fantastic but I can only feel it missed the boat on so many aspects and with low shipping numbers I'd be surprised if Sony dare to venture into the market again.
However, if Japan Display have just announced a 6.2" unit it will have to appear on some phone, some time so lets hope it's Sony.
An IR Blaster and 13mp rear facing camera would be welcome with an LED flash.
SWFlyerUK said:
My contract is up in October and eligible for a free upgrade in August so a new Ultra would tie in nicely but I'm sceptical as to whether we'll see a successor. The original device was fantastic but I can only feel it missed the boat on so many aspects and with low shipping numbers I'd be surprised if Sony dare to venture into the market again.
However, of Japan Display have just announced a 6.2" unit it will have to appear on some phone, some time so lets hope it's Sony.
An IR Blaster and 13mp rear facing camera would be welcome.
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With the specs of that display it will most likely be a high end device. I don't care what they name it. I would hope they step up their game rather than concede that market to Samsung.
SWFlyerUK said:
My contract is up in October and eligible for a free upgrade in August so a new Ultra would tie in nicely but I'm sceptical as to whether we'll see a successor. The original device was fantastic but I can only feel it missed the boat on so many aspects and with low shipping numbers I'd be surprised if Sony dare to venture into the market again.
However, if Japan Display have just announced a 6.2" unit it will have to appear on some phone, some time so lets hope it's Sony.
An IR Blaster and 13mp rear facing camera would be welcome with an LED flash.
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That article is from October 2013, so they're probably testing these panels as I type this.
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please please let there be some kind of high end large screen phone to provide sammy with some competition.
tommo123 said:
please please let there be some kind of high end large screen phone to provide sammy with some competition.
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Some of the xperia high end have already give competition to samsung but majority of people choose samsung anyways...some of it just dont know what are they using just follow a trend...
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martin132014 said:
Some of the xperia high end have already give competition to samsung but majority of people choose samsung anyways...some of it just dont know what are they using just follow a trend...
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Not some. Most follow blindly. It's like Samsung is the apple of android :v
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Sadman Khan said:
Not some. Most follow blindly. It's like Samsung is the apple of android :v
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Haha...i heard that...i just don't know what's so appealing about samsung galaxies...hmm
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i have a galaxy s2 and a galxy note 2 and they were both great phones.
tommo123 said:
i have a galaxy s2 and a galxy note 2 and they were both great phones.
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Well some other non popular phone are also great to even somewhat surpass the galaxies in some way but they are not sell very well compared to samsung...i dont mean that its a bad phone, i just dont understand why people choose it over others...
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[SATIRE] Top 5 Reasons NOT to buy the Galaxy A5 2016

Reason NO 5.
I've tested the new a5 and gotta say...I was disappointed. It's more bloated than its older version. Yes more Bloated. Samsung has put nearly double the bloatware in the new a5. So the older is the better option if you don't want a bloated phone out of the box!
Reason No.4
I drop tested the new A5 and it broke at less than 3 feet. The older A5 can survive above 5 feet. The newer one is weaker due to its extra glass back and heavier additions which adds more force on impact.
Reason No. 3
Price. The newer is 25-30% more expensive than the older one. For that price you get a more bloated and weaker phone.
Reason No. 2
No Premium Metal Finish. There is NO premium metal finish. It is under the glass of the new a5. There is absolutely no point having it under glass. It's useless and I think a glass back is kinda outdated.
Reason No. 1
The System Memory. If you take the 16GB option of the A5 its system takes 10.34 GB
Along with Cached Data you will only have 3-4 GB to use on the phone. That's Bad.
Hope you like this thread and if you are planning to buy an a5 then buy the older please. Thank-you. BTW I have a ROM for download. I will create a thread for it later
Glad I got the 2015 model haha,
I don't know what bloated things you're talking about, mine has no bloat..and a5 2016 is more expensive than the original a5 cz it has a bigger screen bigger battery better cpu fast charging finger print the placement of the speaker is better.
actually if you think about it its a smaller note 5 with no pen heart beat sensor and wireless charging.
so with respect to your opinion,I think you're being too harsh on the new a5 2016
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Reason no 6: Mali t720mp2 gpu (Exynos variant). I mean seriously. That gpu is age old. It deserves at least t760mp2 or mp4.
Umm, you went on and drop tested new A5?

			
				
maybe he can't get the new one so he's hating on it
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wildalan said:
maybe he can't get the new one so he's hating on it
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Oh you are talking about the author of the post, I thought that you replied to me.
gonxsster said:
Oh you are talking about the author of the post, I thought that you replied to me.
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I replied to you talking about the author lol
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The phone is good
He's a hater
Look my first screenshots
brljak83 said:
The phone is good
He's a hater
Look my first screenshots
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LOL
But have you noticed there 2000X( exaggeration) more bloat ware and samsung additions. It is more away from stock Android.
Psycho Tech
Skulldron said:
But have you noticed there 2000X( exaggeration) more bloat ware and samsung additions. It is more away from stock Android.
Psycho Tech
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If you want pure android go for an Nexus device
And it is not much bloatware as you are saying
For example I had an vodafone sony z2
Well it was full of some vodafone useless apps
And my A5 is not from any carrier so it has not
all the useless apps
I think it has just what you need not more of that
Some google apps
Ok some samsung apps
But you need to admit Samsung always tried to have
their own system
Since Bada and tried with Tizen
And now what they are doing is just having their own
Samsung apps aplication and thats not much of bloatware
But everybody got their own taste
So if you dont like it
Nothing to say
Get what you like
Go for Nexus devices
brljak83 said:
The phone is good
He's a hater
Look my first screenshots
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Seems like something is eating your battery. I regularly go the whole week on one charge.
SimboXXX said:
Seems like something is eating your battery. I regularly go the whole week on one charge.
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Hmm
Will pay atention to it now...maybe you are right....
What I noticed till now is that my ram memory is always at 80-85% usage
I close all task and from the app manager close all background proceses but
after 2-3 minutes it comes back again to 80-85% usage...wich is for me not ok...
I think it could be some backproces like the app wich counts my steps all the time...
Will see how it will be after disableing all of it....
Thanks anyway for your share
Now I know it can do evan more hours and days
How is the fluidity of this phone? I know it's touchwiz... Does it lag or something? How is the fingerprint scanner?
Like I said touchwiz is terrible and does it your battery a lot
Psycho Tech
Mozdef32 said:
How is the fluidity of this phone? I know it's touchwiz... Does it lag or something? How is the fingerprint scanner?
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I set in the developer options animation x0.5 and it gets a bit faster
The battery is very good...can last for few days if the phone is not used a lot
But if you use it as a power user and do lot of browsing or video the battery need
9 hours to get empty...so this is very good...anyway it can last with now worries for
one hole day...but as said...if you use the phone less it lasts for days....
The build quality is very good also..has the goood premium feel in the hand
I recomand to buy this phone for sure no mistake to buy it
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Reason NO 5.
I've tested the new a5 and gotta say...I was disappointed. It's more bloated than its older version. Yes more Bloated. Samsung has put nearly double the bloatware in the new a5. So the older is the better option if you don't want a bloated phone out of the box!
Reason No.4
I drop tested the new A5 and it broke at less than 3 feet. The older A5 can survive above 5 feet. The newer one is weaker due to its extra glass back and heavier additions which adds more force on impact.
Reason No. 3
Price. The newer is 25-30% more expensive than the older one. For that price you get a more bloated and weaker phone.
Reason No. 2
No Premium Metal Finish. There is NO premium metal finish. It is under the glass of the new a5. There is absolutely no point having it under glass. It's useless and I think a glass back is kinda outdated.
Reason No. 1
The System Memory. If you take the 16GB option of the A5 its system takes 10.34 GB
Along with Cached Data you will only have 3-4 GB to use on the phone. That's Bad.
Hope you like this thread and if you are planning to buy an a5 then buy the older please. Thank-you. BTW I have a ROM for download. I will create a thread for it later
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I bought it - a great smartphone, the author of lying.
mmme said:
I bought it - a great smartphone, the author of lying.
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Yeah,
you said it right
The author of lying
I bought it too and only from reading
the resons you can see that he is just lying or
maybe just hating samsung for some reson
If anybody has the phone he can tell just in 2 days that
the phone is everything else then he is saying not to buy it

RMN2 Hard Brick, CM12.1

Hey devs,
for about 3 weeks I have been a proud owner of the RMN2 Prime until yesterday, when it suddenly turned off and died.
When I got the phone I started skinning it down with jaik's custom boot image and also cleaned it from unused apps. So far so good.
Now, some days ago I decided to switch over to danielpinto's CM12.1 , which is really awesome compared to MIUI. No problems either.
I also installed Greenify and Disable services to get rid of some battery hogs.
Yesterday, I was out of home whole day, had minimal standby battery drain, but really massive battery drop when recording a video (~50% to 25% in about 2min).
Put it in my pocket, and 10 min later it didn't turn on again. I thought it would be the battery, but apparently it's bricked. No charge LED, no PC recognition, nothing...
I tried to unbrick it via SP tool and some really unconvenient tutorials, but nothing worked. I guess I installed all needed drivers now, but SP tool doesn't show any reaction in the progress bar (the coloured bar at the bottom...I don't get ANY colour, nothing starts when I click the download button).
What to do?
The RMN2 is a pretty good phone IMO, but now also my first bricked one. I would be extremly graceful if some experienced xda devs could help me with this as I'm really desperated.
I'm from Europe and ordering a new one (if I'd need to) would take some weeks from now.
If so, have you any suggestions on which device might be a better choice? It should be in the same price range though.
Thanks for reading!
Best regards
If it is broken.... I guess new phone can be redmi note 3 pro.
Only thing I can think of is trying with a new battery.. (something must be wrong with it if it drained that quickly).
Thanks for your replies!
elaurens said:
Only thing I can think of is trying with a new battery.. (something must be wrong with it if it drained that quickly).
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Well, after I used the camera the drain was normal again and stayed at 27%. I also removed the battery and directly powered it from my powerbank, but it never turned on or vibrated...and no LED...
mehdi554 said:
If it is broken.... I guess new phone can be redmi note 3 pro.
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The extra features of the 3 pro are not really attractive for me. I've found the Elephone P9000 Lite today and I think this might be great alternative. Or I give the RMN2 another chance. Not sure on this yet...
sierrabravo6 said:
Thanks for your replies!
Well, after I used the camera the drain was normal again and stayed at 27%. I also removed the battery and directly powered it from my powerbank, but it never turned on or vibrated...and no LED...
The extra features of the 3 pro are not really attractive for me. I've found the Elephone P9000 Lite today and I think this might be great alternative. Or I give the RMN2 another chance. Not sure on this yet...
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Wouldn't it be less costly to first spend 10$ on a new battery before buying a new phone? In regards to a new phone, I'd chose a Snapdragon 650 powered RN3 w/ a 4k mAh battery over the Elephone P9000 Lite any day of the week. My brother has one and it's an amazing phone. Of course it all depends of what you find important in a phone. What makes you go for the Elephone?
elaurens said:
Wouldn't it be less costly to first spend 10$ on a new battery before buying a new phone? In regards to a new phone, I'd chose a Snapdragon 650 powered RN3 w/ a 4k mAh battery over the Elephone P9000 Lite any day of the week. My brother has one and it's an amazing phone. Of course it all depends of what you find important in a phone. What makes you go for the Elephone?
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Really appreciate your thoughts, man!
If I could be sure that it was a battery problem I would of course buy a new one. But it really appears to be a hard brick (I tested it with the battery removed and the phone directly plugged to the charger -> no LED, no reaction) Also the PC can't recognise it anymore.
The RN3 might surely be a nice phone, but for me the fingerprint, slithly faster performance and the battery are not worth 60€ more.
I just stumbled over the P9000 Lite yesterday and it seems to have everything the RN2 has + more RAM, LTE band 20 and Marshmallow. Negative is the small xda community for it...
And today I just found Ulefone! Geez, almost the same company name, but whole different stuff...there are way too many china phones out there!
The Elephone is down for a Ulefone Power or Ulefone Vienna.
Any thoughts?
Btw FYI, my preferences would be:
- at least 3000mAH
- 5.5 inch FHD
- Android 6 (or via update) + maybe chance for N if it's not asked too much
- at least 2Gb RAM, processor level of RN2 would be sufficient
- I don't care about the camera quality at all
- less than ~180€
Does the phone vibrate when you plug it to the charger without the battery?
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Does the phone vibrate when you plug it to the charger without the battery?
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Nope
sierrabravo6 said:
Nope
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Where did you buy your phone? Maybe it's still in warranty and maybe they will fix it for free,spending some $ to fix the rn2 is more convenient
andrea210701 said:
Where did you buy your phone? Maybe it's still in warranty and maybe they will fix it for free,spending some $ to fix the rn2 is more convenient
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I got it from Gearbest and it's still in their 45 days warranty. I'll probably try to ask for a refund and order a new RN2.
Sending it back, fixing it, then sending it back to me would last monthes...
So I'll order a new one today or tomorrow, I'm just undecided between Ulefone Power or RN2.
sierrabravo6 said:
Really appreciate your thoughts, man!
If I could be sure that it was a battery problem I would of course buy a new one. But it really appears to be a hard brick (I tested it with the battery removed and the phone directly plugged to the charger -> no LED, no reaction) Also the PC can't recognise it anymore.
The RN3 might surely be a nice phone, but for me the fingerprint, slithly faster performance and the battery are not worth 60€ more.
I just stumbled over the P9000 Lite yesterday and it seems to have everything the RN2 has + more RAM, LTE band 20 and Marshmallow. Negative is the small xda community for it...
And today I just found Ulefone! Geez, almost the same company name, but whole different stuff...there are way too many china phones out there!
The Elephone is down for a Ulefone Power or Ulefone Vienna.
Any thoughts?
Btw FYI, my preferences would be:
- at least 3000mAH
- 5.5 inch FHD
- Android 6 (or via update) + maybe chance for N if it's not asked too much
- at least 2Gb RAM, processor level of RN2 would be sufficient
- I don't care about the camera quality at all
- less than ~180€
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Djeeeeeeeeeeeez thx a lot!! You've made me look at that Elephone P9000 Lite, then at that Ulefone Power (looks awesome w/ wooden back!) and now i'm considering passing on my RN2 to a family member and going on a spending spree (again) I wouldn't personally go for the Ulefone Power because of it's less than great MT6753 processor, 16GB (only) storage and Ulefone's custom ROM (planned upgrade to MM, but yeah don't think it'll get N).
I'm actually moving to China in a couple of weeks and one of the first things I'll do when I get there is go have a look at the Umi Super. Check out these specs:
- SHARP 2.5D 5.5 FHD display (Gorilla glass 3)
- Mediatek P10 (MT6755) @ 2.0GHz
- SAMSUNG 32GB eMMC 5.1 ROM
- SAMSUNG LPDDR3 4GB RAM
- SONY 4000 mAh battery
- PANASONIC 13MP dual flash camera
- TYPE-C USB / SD card up to 256GB / Fingerprint sensor / Dual SIM (shared 2nd slot w/ SD)
And when you thought it couldn't get any better, it comes with stock Android 6.0 (yes you've read that right!! it's a Nexus!!!!! ) and Umi offers a ROM flashing tool (Rootjoy) on their website and the tool allows you to flash a MIUI, VIBE, EMUI or LEWA ROM, made for the Super, to the phone
That is one hell of a crazy phone! Now I know in your requirements it says "less than 180e" and there is a time limited offer on Umi's homepage to get it for 179.99$ (not sure about shipping fees). Anyway, I'm gonna get it even if I need to shell the normal 249.99$ price for it (it's more than worth it if you look at the top class components they've chosen for the Super). So screw the idea of repairing your RN2, throw it in the bin (or put it up on eBay) and get that unibody aluminium one
elaurens said:
Djeeeeeeeeeeeez thx a lot!! You've made me look at that Elephone P9000 Lite....
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Damn it, now there are 3 devices to choose from
The RN2 has a strong community, but bad battery..
the Ulefone Power has...ehm...power and MM, but is unhandy and has no community..
and the UMI Super sounds awesome, but has even less community and it will take monthes til it would be here with me!
Do you have a link to the 180 bucks offer? found it
And are you in anyway paid by UMI by chance?
EDIT: Ok, somehow got hooked by the Super Now the only question is where to get it fast and cheap
I can't stand getting along with my old Lg L7 for so long!
sierrabravo6 said:
And are you in anyway paid by UMI by chance?
EDIT: Ok, somehow got hooked by the Super Now the only question is where to get it fast and cheap
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Not in any way., I only found out about Umi at 2am last night when I was still looking at the newer China phones xD You can go on their website and click on the Super promo on the homepage (Snap now) and it will show you all the supported resellers (Gearbest and alike + 1 shop on Aliexpress/eBay). The Aliexpress shop (Deal Home) seems to be the only one having stock already (there's a certificate signed by a Umi representative stating that Deal Home has the First launch exclusivity) and all the other shops won't be sending anything out before June 20th. I've taken a look at their flash sale system. First, you need to register for the coupon (which they mail every Wednesday to the lucky first ones) and then you need to wait on a flash sale day (there was one on May 23rd and the next one, which we'll miss obviously, is on May 31th). Only on those days, and at the following hours: 00:00, 03:00, 06:00, 18:00 and 21:00, can you get one for 179$. The 179$ phones will be shipped out after 7 days according to the shop. So this system 1) scks and 2) is not as speedy as we like.
But there's a second option. You can buy it in a presale (right now) w/o the flash sale crap for 219.99$ on Deal Home (there's a 10$ seller discount as well) and according to them, those phones get shipped out "24~48h after test well". Thing is, I'm not sure how true that all is since in the shipping option, it mentions "ships out within 28 business days" (but that might be a default aliexpress thing). I'd just contact the shop and ask how quickly you can get it (or the item is being shipped out) if you take the 209.99$ one. They have 81 gray ones and 97 golden ones left.
It is true that the dev community is pretty small, but how much of it do you need if they offer a stock ROM by default (w/ possibility of root, xposed, etc.) and many alternative ROMS as an option? The only thing they might not do (but that's the same for every other Android vendor) is to offer an upgrade to Android N. I checked their forum a bit and at least they're being honest and clear about it when and why one of their devices isn't being updated to a new Android version.
I just had a first look at the sellers today and at the moment they all sell them for about 190€ - 200€, which is still okay for me (especially compared to the RN3). That is efox, tomtop, Banggood and Gearbest. Aliexpress' Deal Home unfortunately doesn't ship to my country. But I saw that Gearbest also has this kind of flash sale on special days of the week.
They all seem to deliver from mid to end of June plus the shipping time itself. So it will be here in mid July at the earliest...
elaurens said:
The only thing they might not do (but that's the same for every other Android vendor) is to offer an upgrade to Android N. I checked their forum a bit and at least they're being honest and clear about it when and why one of their devices isn't being updated to a new Android version.
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I was quite happy to see this.
sierrabravo6 said:
I just had a first look at the sellers today and at the moment they all sell them for about 190€ - 200€, which is still okay for me (especially compared to the RN3). That is efox, tomtop, Banggood and Gearbest. Aliexpress' Deal Home unfortunately doesn't ship to my country. But I saw that Gearbest also has this kind of flash sale on special days of the week.
They all seem to deliver from mid to end of June plus the shipping time itself. So it will be here in mid July at the earliest...
Ah the major downside of importing phones from China .. it takes forever to get them (unless you pay an extra 35$ for a DHL <8 days delivery).
I was quite happy to see this.
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Awesome. That seals the deal for me
Btw, this is Umi's official shop on Aliexpress. You can get the super deal and flash deal for their device right there. There's even 1 super deal phone in stock but unfortunately it's a gold one.
Maybe this could help, but is in spanish http://www.movilesdualsim.com/index.php?threads/117528/
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Nice phone = all Lte Support
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jmora99 said:
Maybe this could help, but is in spanish http://www.movilesdualsim.com/index.php?threads/117528/
Sent from my Redmi Note 2 using Tapatalk
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Sorry for the delayed response and thank you for your tip! Actually I tried the exact same tutorial (in english language) before, but to no success.
elaurens said:
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In the meantime I ordered the UMI Super for 164€. I'm really excited, but have to wait until July at least, as it will be shipped from 25th June at the earliest -.-
And now I'm already wondering if I should send the Super right back to GearBest and buy a Vernee Apollo Lite.
I thought the Super would be the best of the best for this price atm, but when you see the Apollo Lite....
- Helio X20 Deca core (Antutu >90000)
- IGZO display that seems to be really power efficient
- better camera with better focus
and Vernee is said to get a lot of hours out of a 3000mAH battery. While the 4000mAH of the Umi might not hold what they promise...
I'm not really into the fastest processor available as you won't feel a big differnece in daily use anyway, but it still seems to be a better package overall.
Price ~200€, ~230$ pre-sale
I ordered aswell they working on the battery like the last update. Waiting for root =(
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Little update and a question:
I'm currently pretty happy with the UMI Super. All I wish for is DTTW and a Wifi fix, but all in all a really decent device for that price.
Regarding the RMN 2:
It's a real shame that I cant revive it...so dead...yet so beautiful
I disassembled it and tried the test point method as a last resort, but I can't identify the test points.
Anyone knows where they are?
I googled, but to no avail...
Thanks everyone!

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