Hello all,
I got the T-mobile LGV10, I have been using it for the past 15 days, I have noticed that the battery life is pretty bad, doesn't even last a day, every time I turn the screen on I would see it dropping 1 or 2 percent. I have installed cleanMaster app and been noticing the RAM usage being at 80-87% all the time. I think it is unusual to be utilizing that much RAM. Apart from these two, the camera is awesome and I'm in love with the second screen.
However, I have decided to turn the phone in and get the Note 5. I have already claimed the LG V10 promo and my status says "approved". Do you think it is bad on part of me to return the phone to T-mobile since I have already claimed the promo? I'm feeling bit guilty to do so. Anyway T-mobile would charge me restocking fee of $50, however I'm getting the card and battery for free right. Is it immoral to do that. What do you guys think?
Whats your usage?
I no longer trust CM. Have you disabled the bloatware?
No need to feel guilty because you can't use the battery or the sd card in your note 5 LOL.
jamor414 said:
No need to feel guilty because you can't use the battery or the sd card in your note 5 LOL.
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Lmfao...
. Sounds like there is something wrong. I get over 5 hours SOT. Either way, enjoy the N5, looks like an amazing phone.
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Just switched from the V10 to the Note 5, the V10 was a great phone, but I was used to Samsung after having the Note 3 and 4, word of advice, get a case with your note 5. Both phones are great, but I like the AMOLED and the S-Pen.
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SOT. a little over 4hrs for me and good enough and liking the phone
Lol. Wait til you get the note5 and ram useage is always 100%. No joke. Samsung is having a hell of a time with memory management on their exynos 7420 devices. I had the S6 and Note5 and you'll regret making the switch.
Funny, I'm trading my Note 5 in for either the V10 or the G4 tomorrow. Haven't we all agreed by now that Clean Master and any of that Cheetah Mobile cesspool of **** is basically malware? Plus who cares if ram is at 85% or 15%? Unused ram is wasted ram. If it's not affecting your multitasking, then who cares?
Factory reset it and do not install any apps, see if it makes a difference before you eat the restocking fee
I had the same issue. I ended up doing a Factory reset, and let Google restore my apps. This fixed my horrible battery life.
I came from the note 5. I didn't think it was what it was all cracked up to be. It was nice, snappy at first but lag after a few days. Battery was so so. It constantly had issues of not pushing notifications, such as emails, until I unlocked the screen. I had multiple replacements and they all had the same issues.
They all would freeze when I would open an excel attachment, sometimes for a minute, sometime it would never recover unless I rebooted. I replicated this over and over.
The note is slippery as snot. I will slide of flat surfaces lol
Don't get me wrong though, I liked the note 5. It's is a good phone, but its buggy still and has its flaws.
As far as the promo, if you gave the v10 back, you should probably give those back as well. It's the right thing to do. ?
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I came from a Note Edge to my V10 and I LOVE the V10. Battery is WAY better on this phone for sure. I get about 4-5 hours SOT and blast all day before plugging it in. And with the promo battery replacement, who cares if it dies. Flip the battery and roll on. Debloat and greenify and that'll make a difference. I'm running stock ROM with Greenify and I've got no complaints. Can't wait to see how a more slimmed down ROM will treat my battery.
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Hello all,
I got the T-mobile LGV10, I have been using it for the past 15 days, I have noticed that the battery life is pretty bad, doesn't even last a day, every time I turn the screen on I would see it dropping 1 or 2 percent. I have installed cleanMaster app and been noticing the RAM usage being at 80-87% all the time. I think it is unusual to be utilizing that much RAM. Apart from these two, the camera is awesome and I'm in love with the second screen.
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Don't be so quick to do so. I was having a rough first week or two with the V10. I rooted it, installed Xposed with a few modules, and now the phone is just about perfect.
First week or two I was getting insane wakelocks. Bluetooth would drain battery when left on (for no damn reason - no phone should do that when not connected to a device, but my Note5 did it too). I would have to plug it in at least once during the day for the most part (not a big issue since I only have quickchargers). Once I got root and Xposed, I was able to use Greenify and take control of a lot of apps making the phone use practically nothing when not in use. Over 9 hours last night I only lost about 8% which isn't bad at all in my eyes (second screen on too). The V10 handles multitasking a lot better than the Note5 because apps will stay in memory longer. Using 85% of 4GB sounds like you have something wrong with your apps, but unless you hit 100% you don't have anything to worry about. I never, ever look at RAM usage on my Android devices - there is no point, it's supposed to be a high % utilized! Was also able to set the phone to a more usable DPI of 540 for most apps (excluding system).
The V10 just has a lot more useful features in my eyes. The Note5 is a great phone for someone who just wants something easy to use. The only thing I wish the V10 had was an AMOLED screen, especially with the secondary display. Apart from that, I don't miss the S-pen, and I certainly don't miss Samsung's UI. I might actually start downloading some games on my V10 since I have so much storage I don't know what to do with it all, and that might leave me desiring the SD 810 instead of the 808, but maybe the G5 will be everything we want and more... haha.
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Lol. Wait til you get the note5 and ram useage is always 100%. No joke. Samsung is having a hell of a time with memory management on their exynos 7420 devices. I had the S6 and Note5 and you'll regret making the switch.
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Not going to happen. His RAM usage will be fairly low actually because Samsung kills apps way too frequently. That's the RAM management issue - multitasking sucks because apps always have to reload. It has nothing to do with a lack of available RAM.
I wouldn't feel bad about keeping the promo stuff. The stuff in now technically used, so they can't resell it. Plus, the logistics of them processing the return would probably be more effort than it's worth to them. I bet if you tried, they'd refuse anyway.
When I returned my Note Edge, they told me to keep the charger and cable.
FWIW, my AT&T V10, stock out of the box, is giving me better battery life than any other phone I've owned. I haven't bothered checking the stats, but I was able to just barely get 2 days use out of it, which is a first for me without resorting to a zerolemon battery.
One thing to consider, T-Mobile bloatware drains battery. I found out when I had the g4, that there is an app that is always checking if you rooted your phone. You can see it pop up if you are rooted as it is constantly requesting root access (com.tmobile.PR.adapt or something like that). I removed it with Titanium Backup (along with all the other TMo apps) and battery life greatly improved.
There are two rules in life for being successful:
1. Never reveal everything you know;
2.
Disable bloatware, turn off VoLTE and you will see a huge difference in battery life.
I was concerned about my battery life, but after a few days I'm getting 4-5 hours of SOT. I would keep the device and the promos.
First day playing with the phone outside in Florida Sun, auto brightness, stock, no bloat diabled. The last 21% kept on going 'til I went to sleep. Comparing to my G4, the v10 has been slightly better. YMMV
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V10 v Note5 (exynos cpu)
Nitemare3219 said:
Don't be so quick to do so. I was having a rough first week or two with the V10. I rooted it, installed Xposed with a few modules, and now the phone is just about perfect.
First week or two I was getting insane wakelocks. Bluetooth would drain battery when left on (for no damn reason - no phone should do that when not connected to a device, but my Note5 did it too). I would have to plug it in at least once during the day for the most part (not a big issue since I only have quickchargers). Once I got root and Xposed, I was able to use Greenify and take control of a lot of apps making the phone use practically nothing when not in use. Over 9 hours last night I only lost about 8% which isn't bad at all in my eyes (second screen on too). The V10 handles multitasking a lot better than the Note5 because apps will stay in memory longer. Using 85% of 4GB sounds like you have something wrong with your apps, but unless you hit 100% you don't have anything to worry about. I never, ever look at RAM usage on my Android devices - there is no point, it's supposed to be a high % utilized! Was also able to set the phone to a more usable DPI of 540 for most apps (excluding system).
The V10 just has a lot more useful features in my eyes. The Note5 is a great phone for someone who just wants something easy to use. The only thing I wish the V10 had was an AMOLED screen, especially with the secondary display. Apart from that, I don't miss the S-pen, and I certainly don't miss Samsung's UI. I might actually start downloading some games on my V10 since I have so much storage I don't know what to do with it all, and that might leave me desiring the SD 810 instead of the 808, but maybe the G5 will be everything we want and more... haha.
Not going to happen. His RAM usage will be fairly low actually because Samsung kills apps way too frequently. That's the RAM management issue - multitasking sucks because apps always have to reload. It has nothing to do with a lack of available RAM.
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I know all about Samsung's memory management. They're killing user apps but not system. Ram useage on that device is always maxed even with stock settings. That's why when you edit your build.prop the device always becomes slow and laggy after a while. Forcing it to keep user apps plus all the system services...
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I know all about Samsung's memory management. They're killing user apps but not system. Ram useage on that device is always maxed even with stock settings. That's why when you edit your build.prop the device always becomes slow and laggy after a while. Forcing it to keep user apps plus all the system services...
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I never had that problem with my Note 4, S6 Edge, or Note5. Plenty of RAM was always available. It just killed user apps for no reason.
Having come from a Note 5 I can promise you you'll be getting comparable battery life and similar performance without the ability to battery swap.
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Hello all,
I'm currently a Samsung galaxy s2 user, just switched from using the iphone 4 because of all the rumors about the galaxy s2. And till now im impressed by everything it has to offer except its battery life.
I love my galaxy s2, but the only problem is battery life, and thats the main reason im being pulled over to buy the iphone 4s!!..
getting that isnt the problem..
I tried way too many custom ROMS, different kernels etc, but ended up with an average 6-7 hr battery life with heavy usage and that doesnt even involve listening to music while commuting. If i did that as well, im sure my battery wud barely last 5 hrs... which isnt ideal at all, im sure everyone feels the same way... Right now im on stock KI3 firmware, rooted. KI3 is slightly better than what bell gave me as stock - KG2.
now i want some strong points of why i shouldn't move back. I've been an iphone user since the 2g iphone and it was amazing!
Only if i could improve my battery life on galaxy s2 i wouldnt have these temptations to move to iphone again.
Should I move back to the iPhone?
no, galaxy s2 is the best !xD
my battery is very good so i don't care just try some kernels or roms
iPhone 4s is much better than SGS2 IMO.
Better size, better display (imo SAMOLED+'s colours are too cartoony), better resolution, better camera, better audio, much better battery and a much faster processor.
Also, iOS has proper dual core optimizations and actually makes good use of the A5 chip, wheras with SGS2, you'll have to wait for a stable ICS rom comes out.
Despite the negativity of the i4s, I personally think it'll be one of the most underrated phones this year.
But that's just my opinion.
My s2 often gives me 16+ hrs of heavy usage (my phone is from the first batch) my other half got a white s2 a few weeks ago and he has dreadful battery life. Both same firmware ect. Although mine is made in korea both battery and handset. His is made in china. Different colour mainboards too. Mines blue his is green.
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Well just to make the point clear, you will never get your sgs 2 to have as much of a battery life as the IP4S. iOS is simply much better at handling battery life than android.
Now it depends on what you want really. Do you value battery life over functionality/choice?
Personally what do you expect of a phone with a dual core 1.2ghz processor? If you expect 12 hrs now that is simply idiocy. You have a laptop that can do that? I don't cuz mine lasts 2 hrs with heavy usage. I haven't read of any laptop being able to last 12 hrs of heavy usage either. No I don't expect a laptop to have a battery life like that either. Now this is a phone with a processor better than most if not all netbooks, it is not going to have a 8hr+ battery life with heavy usage just like a laptop.
I feel your pain with battery life. Also, screen burn in isshowing its face on mine too. But threw iphone is waaaaaay too locked down to make it an easy choice.
Sounds like you dont have things set up correctly to me or your using some resource hogging apps.
Im on wifi all day, send between 40-70 sms a day, couple of phone calls, tweetdeck auto updating, around 20mins of music (well, podcast, but it is an audio file), auto updating of all my apps enabled in the market and the obvious hour or so web browsing and 10mins or so of minecraft when I sneak off for a break in the toilets and I get home with around 30%
Dont forget, your also comparing a closed up OS which has been around for a fair old while to an open one which is still reasonably new which each phone manufacturer has his way with before chucking the phones out
Im not going to fight the android corner as you admitted yourself you are 'looking for reasons to not move back'. Which sounds as though you have already made up your mind.
If you want to go get a shiny fragile phone with a half eaten apple on it by all means do Glad you've at least tried Android though, your light years ahead of 90% of Iphone owners who live around here lol.
must be something thats killing your battery in the background. I quite easily get over a day and between 5-6 hours screen on time. Longest ive had was 6hr 38 mins screen on.
Download better battery stats and see whats running in the background.
Lawl you all are missing a very important statement in his post. "HEAVY USAGE"
What is heavy usage? Web browsing, playing a 3d game, watching a video, recording a video, taking pictures, etc. So of course he is going to get 6-7hrs of battery life.
I agree with the above post. find out whats draining your battery. Shouldn't be that low...unless you are just sitting on your sofa browsing constantly because your so excited about a new phone like i was.
Also you can buy a dock charger and extra batteries set for cheap together (ankhers set) so you never have to plug your phone into a charger again
But it sounds like you have alot of money to burn...then why not...being in a locked system isnt so bad when your willing to just buy every app and media at premium prices and your happy with the interface
Thanks for the quick reply guys, and yes, i m loving my galaxy s2 as i mentioned earlier. And yes, im a heavy user, around 100 texts, playing 3d games (sandstorm, brothers in arms etc). I barely keep wifi on as i haf 6gb of data which is almost unlimited. and im getting 7 hrs, which apparently seems to be good. If thats the case then I have nothing to complain about...
And in terms of money, lol i dont have any... its just i could get an iphone if i sold this one... no way i could afford to keep both!
Stick to the SGS2 and wait for the SGS3 till then.
Hmm, If were I, I would like the iPhone 4S. The iOS 5's new feature iCloud and iMessenge really attracted me.
And can get many apps for it:
http://www.enolsoft.com/blog/best-free-iphone-4s-apps/
SGS2! iPhone4S is inferior in many many ways. It's a ****ty phone.
/ownership bias
u should wait untill the ICS rom is out. that should improve the battery life, because it will be customized to a dual core processor.
Iphone 4S is quite a good phone, but I'm personally against Apple's politics regarding software and price. I don't want Itunes, no format support like FLAC or MKV, no Flash. Also Android has more customization abilities in themes and menues.
I like the big screen and weight on the GS2. Well, the battery life could be better on SGS 2. But there's a Samsung 2000mah battery available at the moment and you can easily replace the battery.
I have been in the same boat in fact I have swapped my Iphone 4 for a SGS2 three times, until finally I realise that the SGS2 really is a SuperPhone.
The reason you will find battery life not quite as good as the Iphone4, is basically down to the fact the Iphone is not actually doing a lot.
I waited until iOs5 before swapping back to this truly, greatest phone since the HD2, iOs5 really is a disappointment to say the least, you get a pull down bar that kinda copies Android to a point, but fails in the fact with its Iphone basic-ness yet again, the weather links to the most basic of weather apps, the notification animations appear at the top all very nicely, but the top bar doesn't state that notifications are listed within, they tried to match the Androids version but in true Iphone style, didn't leave in the design to allow users to feel its their notifications.
One thing you will never get away from even jailbroken is the fact you are not free to choose...you will never own your Iphone, it owns you, Android on the other hand is the opposite and with the SGS2, its power and freedom is far more adaptable than the iphone4.
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As far as I can find, I have not seen this issue come up for anyone else. I recently jumped in with the temp root to clean up the bloat and to de-sense. Process went great and everything that I attempted to freeze is froze.
To my dismay, the last two days (since I performed the clean up) my battery life has taken a severe turn for the worse. With screen off I'm losing about 10% an hour, which is way more than before. I used to easily get a day at the office, but now a morning is a lot to ask.
I've checked the usual suspects, and have gone as far as uninstalling any new apps that I've installed since the root. All to no improvement.
I suppose my next step is to re-bloat to see if that brings me back to where I was. But before I go that far, has anyone seen or heard of this problem? If I'm the only one, I suspect my cause and effect is off. I fully expected this to help the ol' battery... But its been the opposite.
I have the exact same problem, I am going to factory reset mine as soon as I have time to set everything up again.
My battery life has literally dropped in half.
~John
Bummer, exactly what I was trying to avoid. Oh well, that's the risk we take I guess.
With all the memory and speed this phone has there is no reason to freeze anything. I can live with bloatware until I get s-off.
When you go freezing apps you alter the way the phone operates. You could have frozen something that the system needed to operate using less
Power. Now your phone works harder and uses a lot more power. This phone is faster and smoother than any rooted phone I ever owned.
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jbh00jh said:
With all the memory and speed this phone has there is no reason to freeze anything. I can live with bloatware until I get s-off.
When you go freezing apps you alter the way the phone operates. You could have frozen something that the system needed to operate usiing less
Power. Now your phone works harder and uses a lot more power. This phone is faster and smoother than any rooted phone I ever owned.
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True statement. One of the reasons I have not updated my temp root script to include de-sensing is because every time I try it it runs like crap. Seems like it just struggles looking for things the framework expects to be there.
Ah, the voice of reason! You are right, I was tottaly content until I started f'n around with the insides. Ill unfreeze it all tonight and keep my fingers crossed that I don't end up needing to reset.
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Ah, the voice of reason! You are right, I was tottaly content until I started f'n around with the insides. Ill unfreeze it all tonight and keep my fingers crossed that I don't end up needing to reset.
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Agreed... This phone is a beast with an OEM extended battery. I used %40 in 14 hours with my standard usage, which includes about 30 mins worth of calls, receiving emails and texting.
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+1, i'm very satisfied with the stock battery on daily use.
When I travel, I throw in the extended battery and I'm watching an entire season of Arrested Development, no problem :x
I haven't desensed, and I only froze some of the bloatware, like the friendstream, nfl mobile...etc. that were in the app's folder, just to keep it clean, but I've learned I just crowd it up again as soon as I start downloading apps No task killers either, just use the one that shipped with it to kill some lingering apps now and then.
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True statement. One of the reasons I have not updated my temp root script to include de-sensing is because every time I try it it runs like crap. Seems like it just struggles looking for things the framework expects to be there.
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I was actually using your tool... appreciate your work on that, it's flawless as far as I can tell. Was going to thank you over on the development board but being an XDA noob I was not allowed!
I thawed everything out and will see tomorrow if I'm back to where I should be. If so, I may give your recommended list a try and see what that brings. I was really liking not having to see all that crapware everywhere I turned.
That is the reason I didn't use the de-sense option. I only froze some of the bloat that i really didn't use. I was afraid that if I de-sensed, it would cause more problems than it fixed.
I started a thread where I gave a long list of freezeable apps, it's linked in one of the stickies in the dev section, and I have left them all frozen. Something like 30 apps frozen. I have NOT de sensed though. I lose 1-2% an hour while idle, though the first 10% from 100 to 90 lasts much longer (complete opposite of my old Dinc which would drop the first 10% in ten mins!)
Well, I bit the bullet and factory reset tonight. We'll see how my battery fares tomorrow.
I had ADWLauncher installed before with a theme and custom icons etc. I left all that out this time.
I do like Sense quite a bit (I love the widgets) so I'm sticking with that for now.
I have two extended batteries I bought with the phone and originally my battery life was outstanding. I could stream audio all day at work (switching between iheart and Sirius) and still have battery life on my way home.
This is outstanding, no other phone I have owned could do that. Lately, my battery life is in the toilet however. I killed an extended battery in a half a day.
~John
jmorton10 said:
Well, I bit the bullet and factory reset tonight. We'll see how my battery fares tomorrow.
I had ADWLauncher installed before with a theme and custom icons etc. I left all that out this time.
I do like Sense quite a bit (I love the widgets) so I'm sticking with that for now.
I have two extended batteries I bought with the phone and originally my battery life was outstanding. I could stream audio all day at work (switching between iheart and Sirius) and still have battery life on my way home.
This is outstanding, no other phone I have owned could do that. Lately, my battery life is in the toilet however. I killed an extended battery in a half a day.
~John
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definitley looking forward to hearing about the results to the factory reset. i haven't had great battery life but i've also temp root and cleaned pretty soon after getting the phone, so i don't have too much to compare to.
jmorton10 said:
Well, I bit the bullet and factory reset tonight. We'll see how my battery fares tomorrow.
I had ADWLauncher installed before with a theme and custom icons etc. I left all that out this time.
I do like Sense quite a bit (I love the widgets) so I'm sticking with that for now.
I have two extended batteries I bought with the phone and originally my battery life was outstanding. I could stream audio all day at work (switching between iheart and Sirius) and still have battery life on my way home.
This is outstanding, no other phone I have owned could do that. Lately, my battery life is in the toilet however. I killed an extended battery in a half a day.
~John
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Let us know how it goes, I'll do the same. I used my freeze script to thaw it all out... hopefully I can leave this thing on my desk for a couple hours tomorrow so I can get some good data on idle usage. Fingers crossed it goes back to the way it was.
I have actually been using Go since day one. I never really tried sense, but it drives me nuts not having a dock bar... I think we can all admit the bar at the bottom is a waste of space. Anyway, I played with it a little tonight and it seems super smooth with good looking widgets (as you mentioned). I may have to get it all set up sometime and see if I can get over my dock bar hang-up.
I had the same battery problem as you and I have yet to even temp root my phone(I run Windows 8 Dev Preview, drivers are unsupported). I don't even play games on my phone and had the same issue. It isn't a root/bloat/de-sense issue.
AtL, that battery chart looks painful. Read the issues list if you haven't already... Some folks have reported battery life like that and ended up trading in and getting one that behaved a little better.
As for my issue, after half a day it looks like thawing everything out was the ticket. This chart vs the one in the OP clearly shows a much slower idle draw. I think I'm back to only charging once a day.
So let that be a lesson to everyone... Be careful of what you think you don't want.
The factory reset seems to have helped some, but it's still not back to where it used too be. I have been streaming iheart all day on 4g using an extended battery. I got probably 6 hours out of the 1st battery & I'm down to 80% on the 2nd battery now.
I think the 4g network may be partly to blame in that I think my higher battery useage started almost exactly when the national 4g outage occured.
~John
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AtL, that battery chart looks painful. Read the issues list if you haven't already... Some folks have reported battery life like that and ended up trading in and getting one that behaved a little better.
As for my issue, after half a day it looks like thawing everything out was the ticket. This chart vs the one in the OP clearly shows a much slower idle draw. I think I'm back to only charging once a day.
So let that be a lesson to everyone... Be careful of what you think you don't want.
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I have been here a while bud. I was just posting to show that I had the same issue while NOT using Temp Root or anything you had used in your experience of the problem. This has only happened to me 1 time.
Debloated with no issues
If you know what your doing and have exp with this debloating / desensing will have only positives on your battery. Im pretty sure that horrid battery life had nothing to do with debloating. And as the OP stated it only proved mild imrpovements aftyer hard reset. Unlikely debloat caused that.
Took phone off charger this AM
would explain why when I had the rezound, the battery life started out great, then get beyond terrible.
Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I'm no gamer, but I didn't faced any heating issues so far.
Maybe I can't speak about heat as I used to use a galaxy S4 exynos (it's a portable cooker in case you don't know, easily reaching 96°c when just browsing on battery), this never heated, the temperature is about 45°c and it never felt uncomfortable hot, actually it never felt hot even in high external temperatures, I don't game on my phone, also I don't do highly demanding tasks, but I guess this phone can stand very well against whatever demanding task you want..
Ya very less heating in rn4
This phone is cool as... Hm, how to explain this.
Imagine hell.
Now imagine it has frozen.
That's the heat level of RN4. Snapdragon 625 does it job.
My phones been fine, up until this last few weeks...
Where I can't hold a charge for more than half a day... And even running phone a USB socket on the computer, the phone still discharges faster than it can charge. Battery getting hot too... I've tried looking to a culprit app that might be churning the cpu. But even process Explorer isn't showing high cpu use from any given app.
The battery app which shows what apps drain most doesn't seem to show it either.
Really worried and nearly giving up. Might do my first factory reset in the 2 years I had this phone. Maybe time to root it and install another rom, Any suggestions?
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My phones been fine, up until this last few weeks...
Where I can't hold a charge for more than half a day... And even running phone a USB socket on the computer, the phone still discharges faster than it can charge. Battery getting hot too... I've tried looking to a culprit app that might be churning the cpu. But even process Explorer isn't showing high cpu use from any given app.
The battery app which shows what apps drain most doesn't seem to show it either.
Really worried and nearly giving up. Might do my first factory reset in the 2 years I had this phone. Maybe time to root it and install another rom, Any suggestions?
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Just trying to comfort you - you are not alone!
First, it's my secondary phone and I use it only when I travel. So not sure since when that happens. Maybe since a week or so.
Now I can lose like 30% in one hour, and the phone gets really hot. I used the last 2 days. Example, this morning it had 100% after overnight charging. I went for breakfast and lost 30% in one hour (rarely use the phone when I was out).
Then I charge a little in the car, phone went went from 58% to 64%. Then for no reason battery life was normal again and by the end of today I had about 20% - and then suddenly withing 20 Minutes it went dark.
I have the phone for about 2 years, this problem is very new.
What I try right now after reading stuff on the internet, so it must be true:
Remove all updates to Google Duo (this app can't be removed) and disable the Auto-Update for it in the PlayStore. Lets see..... (it's an app I never used, had to lookup what it actually is). Did that 15 Minutes ago and phone is already much cooler.
Ok uninstalled updates to duo and blocked auto update in playstore... ill see if that helps... Thanks for the tip
I must admit though, this had made me consider getting a new phone... but I dont really want to the phones good (when its working right) does all i need i to do.... Sure newer phones are a tad flashier but not enough to make me jump to get a new one.
Wow, That appears to have worked..... I mean its not really long enough yet to tell but it does appear to have stopped the fast draining and heat... At least for the first few hours....
Thanks
So if it really is duo causing this battery drain, why do no battery analysers seem to show that?
And is it doing it to all smart phone with duo and I guess it's latest patch installed?
Has duo been spying on us? Has it been running the camera and watching us while we sat on the loo, which I'm soooooo currently not doing..........
Thanks! The recent heat issue after an update had me thinking i need a new phone. I really like this phone, its lasted me by far the longest, and best run times of all I have ever had. I was worried about fire, did a full factory reset with no installed apps, but heat was still there. I removed updates to Google Duo, and stopped any future updates as listed above, and its running cool and clean again.
Once again thanks for this post!
Yep can confirm now after a few days... no heat no fast draining... Google Duo was the culprit... is it a but that just affected mediatek cpus? Or do all android phones suffer this bug? is anyones heads rolling at google for this farce?
ITs fine and good...... no options.
While charging and playing games or using heavy data apps.... it wont get heated like expected when connected to electricity.
When on power banks it works otherwise , gets charged and increase in temperature.
One of the best thermal performance I have seen on a smartphone, thanks to the Snapdragon 625 chipset powering the phone. It had no competition back when it was launched.
Using this phone for gaming almost baked my hand
I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
More battery life is *always* better, but I really have no complaints about my Note 10 battery. It lasts all day, every day. I average 5.5 hours SOT, but it would get a lot more if I pushed it below 10% charge. However, I rarely let it drop below 30%, or fully charge to 100%. I try to take it off the charger between 60-80% to preserve long-term battery life. So while 5.5 hours SOT may seem low to other Note users, I am averaging 5.5 hours SOT from only a 50-70% charge, which is pretty damn good imo.
I disabled some apps that I'll never use, but otherwise I don't need to gimp it to make it through the day. I noticed a slight improvement in battery life with Android 10. I don't do much gaming, but I do a lot of web browsing, YouTube, and listen to Google Play Music and Sirius XM, and it has no problems lasting a full day.
I have the Snapdragon model. I don't have any experience with the Exynos model, but if you are in the UK, then I would recommend going with Exynos just for the warranty. There may be some YouTube videos comparing the battery and performance differences, you may want to look for those. I remember a couple of years ago the Exynos models were noticeably worse as far as battery, but I think the latest Exynos chips have closed the gap.
If battery life is a top priority, then you should consider the Note 10+ which has 23% larger battery (4300 vs 3500 mAh).
One last thing to consider: The Galaxy S20 models are right around the corner. I am not trying to talk you out of a Note, but if you can live without the Spen, you might want to wait for the Galaxy S20 Plus and Ultra. The Plus model is supposed to have a 4500 mAh battery, and the Ultra is rumored to have a massive 5000 mAh battery.
Edit: Btw, congrats on graduating from iOS. You'll love the customizability of Android, and now that RCS is available, you won't miss iMessage as much :good:
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I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
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I own exynos note10 plus
Battery time is average.
battery timing is inversely proportional to the time you are free
sublimaze said:
More battery life is *always* better, but I really have no complaints about my Note 10 battery. It lasts all day, every day. I average 5.5 hours SOT, but it would get a lot more if I pushed it below 10% charge. However, I rarely let it drop below 30%, or fully charge to 100%. I try to take it off the charger between 60-80% to preserve long-term battery life. So while 5.5 hours SOT may seem low to other Note users, I am averaging 5.5 hours SOT from only a 50-70% charge, which is pretty damn good imo.
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Edit: Btw, congrats on graduating from iOS. You'll love the customizability of Android, and now that RCS is available, you won't miss iMessage as much :good:
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Thanks for taking the time to reply - appreciate it. Sounds like our usage patterns are similar. I don’t really game but I use web and media on public transport for a couple of hours a day, in poor signal areas so every phone I’ve had struggles.
Am trying to keep phone size down, the Note 10 Plus is definitely too big! I like the fact that with the standard Note 10 it’s almost the same size as my current iPhone XS, just 5mm taller.
Re graduating (haha) I’ve had android before. Before this iPhone I had the OnePlus 5T and really liked it until I changed cars and it completely refused to talk to the audio system.
I found a YouTube video comparing the Qualcomm and Exynos Note 10’s and in his test he got 7 hrs from the Exynos and 8hrs from the Snapdragon. Wow, bit of a difference.
Will see what the S20 (standard size) is like, and then decide whether to risk an imported Note 10 [emoji106]
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Correction, the video of the Snapdragon getting another hour of screen time is the S10, not the Note 10, which means the Exynos is the 8nm 9820 rather than the 9825 in the Note.
Video for reference https://youtu.be/shrYnaxVenE
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I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
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So i got my Exynos note10 (not a new one, a used one but in a good shape) a week ago running android Q, and the battery drain was a little bit higher than average (compared to what people claiming in the battery section). So i decided to do a fresh reset by flashing a firmware using odin, after that i did some optimizations, disabling features that i dont really need, debloating some apps and waiting for the phone to learn my battery usage pattern (it took me around 4-5 days).So now I can get 7 to 8 hours of SOT using Chrome as my web browser, social media apps, and youtube. So yeah i think the 3500 mah battery is doing a pretty good job.
That’s really good, lots of owners don’t get that out of the Plus model
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abdou1998 said:
So i got my Exynos note10 (not a new one, a used one but in a good shape) a week ago running android Q, and the battery drain was a little bit higher than average (compared to what people claiming in the battery section). So i decided to do a fresh reset by flashing a firmware using odin, after that i did some optimizations, disabling features that i dont really need, debloating some apps and waiting for the phone to learn my battery usage pattern (it took me around 4-5 days).So now I can get 7 to 8 hours of SOT using Chrome as my web browser, social media apps, and youtube. So yeah i think the 3500 mah battery is doing a pretty good job.
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Can you tell us more what did you disable, what did you uninstall/disabled and more...
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Can you tell us more what did you disable, what did you uninstall/disabled and more...
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So the first thing i did was to flash a stock firmware and root it using magisk. Then i charged my phone until it get 100%, i use it until it dies and cannot get booted again (when the phone dies keep rebooting it until it cannot get rebooted again). I did the charging and discharging thing twice. I think this step is like calibrating your battery, correct me if I am wrong.
Then thanks to this post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10/how-to/galaxy-note-10-note-10-plus-debloat-t3964225 i debloated Bixby, samsung pass / pay , samsung sticker center... Do this step at your own risk because you can brick your phone if you didnt choose correctly what to debloat.
Then i enabled Adaptive power saving, put unused apps to sleep, Optimise Battery usage and i restricted background activity and i use dark mode all the time.
I disabled Air action and all features related to S pen ( i only use s pen for writing).
You may not notice a big difference in the battery life until your phone learns usage pettern ("Learning pattern" usage becomes "An estimated time" in device care battery's section)
If you are on a rooted phone then you can use greenify to hibernate other apps.
Additional information, my phone battery drains from like 100% to 80% much quicker and then it start to go slower and slower because each battery behaves in a different way.
Took another look at the Note 10 today and think it's an absolutely stunning looking device. Best looking phone around for me. I noted in the Samsung store that they don't offer any sort of satisfaction guarantee, which is disappointing. Would have been tempted to take one if I had some insurance on the battery life not working out.
But the S20 has now launched, and it's impressive from a specs point of view. Time to see how the S20 reviews play out.
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Took another look at the Note 10 today and think it's an absolutely stunning looking device. Best looking phone around for me. I noted in the Samsung store that they don't offer any sort of satisfaction guarantee, which is disappointing. Would have been tempted to take one if I had some insurance on the battery life not working out.
But the S20 has now launched, and it's impressive from a specs point of view. Time to see how the S20 reviews play out.
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Yes, the S20 phones are phenomenal, especially the S20 Ultra. Which means the Note 11/20 will be an absolute beast
abdou1998 said:
So the first thing i did was to flash a stock firmware and root it using magisk. Then i charged my phone until it get 100%, i use it until it dies and cannot get booted again (when the phone dies keep rebooting it until it cannot get rebooted again). I did the charging and discharging thing twice. I think this step is like calibrating your battery, correct me if I am wrong.
Then thanks to this post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10/how-to/galaxy-note-10-note-10-plus-debloat-t3964225 i debloated Bixby, samsung pass / pay , samsung sticker center... Do this step at your own risk because you can brick your phone if you didnt choose correctly what to debloat.
Then i enabled Adaptive power saving, put unused apps to sleep, Optimise Battery usage and i restricted background activity and i use dark mode all the time.
I disabled Air action and all features related to S pen ( i only use s pen for writing).
You may not notice a big difference in the battery life until your phone learns usage pettern ("Learning pattern" usage becomes "An estimated time" in device care battery's section)
If you are on a rooted phone then you can use greenify to hibernate other apps.
Additional information, my phone battery drains from like 100% to 80% much quicker and then it start to go slower and slower because each battery behaves in a different way.
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You are wrong this is really old battery habits. For several years and actual battery tech it's not recommended to fully discharge , the best way to improve battery life is to stay over 20% and avoid fast charging. That is also not how phone calibrates batteries.
Source: https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/
Battery life on the Snapdragon Note 10+ has been great. It stayed consistent with the Android 10 update. I had the Note 8 before this phone, and I'd have to say the 10+ is better.
Indeed the difference is not so abysmal as before
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Correction, the video of the Snapdragon getting another hour of screen time is the S10, not the Note 10, which means the Exynos is the 8nm 9820 rather than the 9825 in the Note.
Video for reference https://youtu.be/shrYnaxVenE
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Actually, there is a comparison for Note 10+ Exynos vs Snapdragon and indeed, the difference in battery is now minimal, of course the weak point for the Exynos is still the Mali GPU. So it looks like for power comsuption is now more even between Exynos 9825 and Snapdragon 855 (which is kind of obvious since both are 7nm)
Video of the comparison: https://youtu.be/Ni0sCLDoPPs
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Actually, there is a comparison for Note 10+ Exynos vs Snapdragon and indeed, the difference in battery is now minimal, of course the weak point for the Exynos is still the Mali GPU. So it looks like for power comsuption is now more even between Exynos 9825 and Snapdragon 855 (which is kind of obvious since both are 7nm)
Video of the comparison: https://youtu.be/Ni0sCLDoPPs
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Interesting thanks.
One of the things I’ve been bitten with on iPhones is the effect on battery life of the inferior Intel modems they’ve been using for the last few years. I went from an iPhone SE to an Xs and the difference in signal strength was definitely noticeable, and that will affect power consumption too.
I’m not saying this is the same with the Exynos modem but do tend to think that at this point, Qualcomm modems are the better
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Well,
I expected a lot more from a phone that costed over 1000 $ when released.
Although I did purchased it used,many things frustrate me a lot so lets go by order:
1. Yellowish tint on screen which makes white color not so white,like the night filter option is ON,screen is not changed on this phone,so only thing I could do is go to vivid settings decrease red channel all the way and set colors to more cooler tone,but just setting to Natural display settings yellow tone is more then noticeable..
Dunno is it just my phone or any others experience this issue.
2.Battery is terrible.I noticed last night drop of 4 % while only GSM in 4 hours so I suppose while in stanby it looses 1 % per hour,my Ulefone Power 5S doesn't loose any battery capacity while ON though it has 13 000 mAh battery.
This issue I couldn't resolve,I suppose it is like that way,because I had same issue before with Note 8 which was bought used,though phone was not used that much because I was frustrated with battery lasting at most 1 day of mediocre usage.
While this phone is on WiFi battery loses capacity drastically.
I even switched it to power saving mode ON,turned off all gestures,turned black theme on,every possible way to save battery but still loosing capacity with simple GSM signal.
3 Wifi quality signal is pretty bad,even my good old S7 edge beats the 1000 $ phone,it usually is droping signal from other networks id there are many outdoors but indoors it has good quality signal.
I figured out for unknown reason that when I turn OFF power saving signal I do get better Wifi quality/strength signal,dunno why,is it just me phone or what the f..k.
4. Very bad sound quality from caller ovet network,while outdoors I can barely hear someone talking while making calls.
Dunno what else,if I remember I will post in same topic,don't think it's just my phone because I see many comlaining about this on this very own forum.
I can't tell anything positive for a phone that costed 1000 $ and I can't get over these things,so Samsung what where you thinking when you released this phone.
No more Samsung phones for me,next I will try Huawei.
Well, I sincerely do not recognize what you describe as a note 10+, not a single issue you mention has happened to me, if you are so frustrated, sell it
have no ideia what phone you're speaking of. Mine's over 2 years old already since I got it. Screen still crisp, battery is day and a half, I don't charge it at night, I just charge it at work from 43% almost everytime, so it's the full day, the night and charge it in the morning with around 43 ish.
I keep BT/WIF/4G/gestures ... all bell and whistles on at all times...
I think that phone was already fixed and badly, that's the only thing I can think of. Maybe abused AF but still...
Happy camper here ...
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have no ideia what phone you're speaking of. Mine's over 2 years old already since I got it. Screen still crisp, battery is day and a half, I don't charge it at night, I just charge it at work from 43% almost everytime, so it's the full day, the night and charge it in the morning with around 43 ish.
I keep BT/WIF/4G/gestures ... all bell and whistles on at all times...
I think that phone was already fixed and badly, that's the only thing I can think of. Maybe abused AF but still...
Happy camper here ...
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Like you I got my 10+ 2 years ago. It's still running on Pie. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable. One battery replacement so far. Zero display pixels are damaged or showing any signs of deterioration.
The display's color gamut is damn near spot on.
Its still one of the best displays out there.
This phone looks and runs like it was new.
Picked up another new 10+ 3 days ago. Been testing it. The display is perfect. No damaged pixels. This one is running on Android 10 though. It seems as snappy as my Pie variant and it appears scoped storage isn't active unlike 11. Camera improvements came with 10 too as well as better dark mode support. That said the settings section is noticeably worse especially apps.
The only major issue is it killed Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. I will find a work around hopefully.
Bottom line, I'll take the 10+ over all the phones Samsung has released after it including the 20 Ultra. The 10+'s display has slightly better color rendering than the 20U although it's limited at 60hz. Which isn't all bad as it has better battery life.
The phone is built rock solid and with a good case/screen protector will give years of trouble free premium performance. With 12 gb of ram it's performance is only slightly less then the newest phones. With no Android 11, 5G or variable refresh rate to bog it down it's not lagging far behind the newest phones in speed.
The last thing you want is an Android running on 11. This OS is a dog.
OP, some of your issues are settings and configuration. A poorly coded 3rd party app, like a book reading app, may have alter hidden settings for the display. Adjust in that app to eliminate it. If you uninstalled the app, you will need to reinstall that app to toggle off the night filter... been there, done that.
Otherwise a factory reset will purge it.
blackhawk said:
Like you I got my 10+ 2 years ago. It's still running on Pie. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable. One battery replacement so far. Zero display pixels are damaged or showing any signs of deterioration.
The display's color gamut is damn near spot on.
Its still one of the best displays out there.
This phone looks and runs like it was new.
Picked up another new 10+ 3 days ago. Been testing it. The display is perfect. No damaged pixels. This one is running on Android 10 though. It seems as snappy as my Pie variant and it appears scoped storage isn't active unlike 11. Camera improvements came with 10 too as well as better dark mode support. That said the settings section is noticeably worse especially apps.
The only major issue is it killed Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. I will find a work around hopefully.
Bottom line, I'll take the 10+ over all the phones Samsung has released after it including the 20 Ultra. The 10+'s display has slightly better color rendering than the 20U although it's limited at 60hz. Which isn't all bad as it has better battery life.
The phone is built rock solid and with a good case/screen protector will give years of trouble free premium performance. With 12 gb of ram it's performance is only slightly less then the newest phones. With no Android 11, 5G or variable refresh rate to bog it down it's not lagging far behind the newest phones in speed.
The last thing you want is an Android running on 11. This OS is a dog.
OP, some of your issues are settings and configuration. A poorly coded 3rd party app, like a book reading app, may have alter hidden settings for the display. Adjust in that app to eliminate it. If you uninstalled the app, you will need to reinstall that app to toggle off the night filter... been there, done that.
Otherwise a factory reset will purge it.
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Here 20 Ultra is like 250 euros more expensive?
Do you think it's 250 euros better phone?
I mean I get 120 HZ display and 108 MPX camera and stronger CPU (I'm not planing to render videos).
But don't think at all that is worth giving 10 plus and extra 250 e for it.
I meant on used phones.
paparazzo79 said:
Here 20 Ultra is like 250 euros more expensive?
Do you think it's 250 euros better phone?
I mean I get 120 HZ display and 108 MPX camera and stronger CPU (I'm not planing to render videos).
But don't think at all that is worth giving 10 plus and extra 250 e for it.
I meant on used phones.
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The 10+ has slightly better display color accuracy and better battery life.
The new one I got is loaded with Android 10 and seems to run strong.
More than likely the 20U's will come with 11, no way I'm touching that OS version. 11 will eat into the increase in CPU speed of the 20U.
Android 11 is the biggest strike against the 20U and Samsung version of it is especially not a charm.
I like the laser focus on the 20U but the cam hump is a burden. Like the faster spen response as well. The 5G be nice but not needed.
Many of the sellers stateside aren't showing full specs ie the variant of the 20U they are selling. A lot of seedy crap going on with both models but it's worse with the 20U.
It became a major headache to the point where it simply wasn't worth the risk. Getting a factory sealed new unit is important to me as is getting exactly what I want. The 10+ still had one surprise Q instead of Pie, but it turned out not to be a ball breaker. May even update my older one to that version.