Recently, I'm unable to auto-hibernate Facebook app. But if I manually long-press the Facebook row and then tap the Z button, the Facebook app can be hibernated. Anyone knows if it's Facebook problem or Greenify issue?
itandy said:
Recently, I'm unable to auto-hibernate Facebook app. But if I manually long-press the Facebook row and then tap the Z button, the Facebook app can be hibernated. Anyone knows if it's Facebook problem or Greenify issue?
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It is neither. Rather it is by design. Any app busy in the background (not merely running), will show up as "working". After it completes its work, the status will change to 'will be hibernated after screen off'. It will then be automatically hibernated once the screen is off.
This is to allow apps to complete their work before being hibernated.
If you don't want Facebook to even work, highlight it and then tap the three dot menu at the top and choose 'ignore the app's state'.
I am not responsible for any consequences.
tnsmani said:
It is neither. Rather it is by design. Any app busy in the background (not merely running), will show up as "working". After it completes its work, the status will change to 'will be hibernated after screen off'. It will then be automatically hibernated once the screen is off.
This is to allow apps to complete their work before being hibernated.
If you don't want Facebook to even work, highlight it and then tap the three dot menu at the top and choose 'ignore the app's state'.
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I'm unable to find the 'ignore the app's state' from the menu
itandy said:
I'm unable to find the 'ignore the app's state' from the menu
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Which version of Greenify are you running?
tnsmani said:
Which version of Greenify are you running?
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2.8 beta 2
itandy said:
2.8 beta 2
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itandy said:
2.8 beta 2
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I am on the same version. So it seems to have an issue with your setup.
After ignoring an app's state, when you highlight it again, you will get an option for reconsidering its state as in the screen shot below.
I have no idea why it is not showing up for you.
itandy said:
I'm unable to find the 'ignore the app's state' from the menu
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Highlight Facebook, tap the Zzz (if Facebook is working). Now comes a lil Window where you can click "ignore the app's state"
Black_Focus_X said:
Highlight Facebook, tap the Zzz (if Facebook is working). Now comes a lil Window where you can click "ignore the app's state"
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Sorry I don't get you. What do you mean by lil Window?
itandy said:
Sorry I don't get you. What do you mean by lil Window?
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My english is not so good sorry. If you highlighted Facebook, than tap the 3 dots right, tap "put into hibernation now", after this must come a popup where you can mark "ignore the app's state"
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Black_Focus_X said:
My english is not so good sorry. If you highlighted Facebook, than tap the 3 dots right, tap "put into hibernation now", after this must come a popup where you can mark "ignore the app's state"
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I had already suggested that and he had clarified that he doesn't get that option.
@itandy
Try what Black_Focus_X said earlier. When Facebook shows up as 'working', highlight it and then tap the 'zzz' at the bottom. You should get a pop-up window telling you that it is unsafe to hibernate an app in such conditions and also giving the option to ignore its state. Tick the option box, then OK.
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This one
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Yes, this is like what tnsmani said. But I'm unable to find this option in the menu.
tnsmani said:
I had already suggested that and he had clarified that he doesn't get that option.
@itandy
Try what Black_Focus_X said earlier. When Facebook shows up as 'working', highlight it and then tap the 'zzz' at the bottom. You should get a pop-up window telling you that it is unsafe to hibernate an app in such conditions and also giving the option to ignore its state. Tick the option box, then OK.
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Oh, I finally made it. The trick is to tap the Facebook row and then the Circular Zzz button at the bottom instead of long-pressing the Facebook app followed by the Zzz at the upper right hand corner. Thanks both of you guys!
itandy said:
Oh, I finally made it. The trick is to tap the Facebook row and then the Circular Zzz button at the bottom instead of long-pressing the Facebook app followed by the Zzz at the upper right hand corner. Thanks both of you guys!
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That is what I was telling you from the beginning, tap, highlight not long press.
Anyway all is well that ends well.
Managed to hibernate but found that it is still running from Running Service
Using MM and 2.8 beta3
chding said:
Managed to hibernate but found that it is still running from Running Service
Using MM and 2.8 beta3
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Deactivate it on Developer Options>Inactive Apps.
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Not sure about consequences since I don't use it.
tnsmani said:
Deactivate it on Developer Options>Inactive Apps.
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Not sure about consequences since I don't use it.
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I'm having the same issue as the OP, despite ignoring the app's state in greenify and deactivating it from developer options -> inactive apps, Facebook still shows up in running services.
I have this problem also but I'm running 2.7.1. Where can you get 2.8?
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@itandy
Try what Black_Focus_X said earlier. When Facebook shows up as 'working', highlight it and then tap the 'zzz' at the bottom. You should get a pop-up window telling you that it is unsafe to hibernate an app in such conditions and also giving the option to ignore its state. Tick the option box, then OK.
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I've now installed what I think is 2.8 beta 3 bit still can't get this to apppear, perhaps because I can't get Facebook to appear in the working state. It does however keep getting started by other apps. I shouldn't have to stop the services manually in developer settings. So how is this accomplished? The whole reason I have Greenify is to stop Facebook and other data stealing from running rampant when I'm not using them.
chding said:
Managed to hibernate but found that it is still running from Running Service
Using MM and 2.8 beta3
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MrMarques01 said:
I'm having the same issue as the OP, despite ignoring the app's state in greenify and deactivating it from developer options -> inactive apps, Facebook still shows up in running services.
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Blario said:
It does however keep getting started by other apps. I shouldn't have to stop the services manually in developer settings. So how is this accomplished? The whole reason I have Greenify is to stop Facebook and other data stealing from running rampant when I'm not using them.
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When it's awoken by another app, it will say "woken by ....." underneath the app name. If you tap on facebook in greenify main screen, then tap the scissors icon in top right of the page, a pop-up will explain then allow you to cut off the wake-up path. Play around with it and you'll find that cutting some wake-up paths is good and cutting others will stop notifications.
I currently have these paths cut-off for facebook:
...notify.MessengerForegroundProvider
...provider.PlatformProviderBase
What wake-up paths have other people cut?
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If I hibernate an app like Facebook, its hibernated.. why does it wake back up? how can it wake back up if I dont open it or call it or do anything to share to it etc...Makes no sense.
I am rooted with greenify installed, I hibernate Facebook. Facebook is set to no chat, no notifications, nothing.. it has everything you can disable disabled... yet time after time again of hibernating it, I wake my screen up and do a manual manual hibernation OR i open greenify and Facebook is right there under Apps that will be hibernated soon. i can see the message tha says "Facebook was hibernated when i do a manual hibernation but it always seems to come back on its own.
There are quite a few apps which will wake up Facebook in the background. In particular, any apps which offer to allow you to sign in via a Facebook identity. Even though you might not have signed up via Facebook, those apps will often wake up FB anyway.
If you want to ensure FB doesn't wake up, then you need to install Xposed framework, enable the Greenify module in Xposed and then tick the option on Greenify for Wake-up Tracker and Cut-off. You can then disable having other apps open FB.
greenmark69 said:
There are quite a few apps which will wake up Facebook in the background. In particular, any apps which offer to allow you to sign in via a Facebook identity. Even though you might not have signed up via Facebook, those apps will often wake up FB anyway.
If you want to ensure FB doesn't wake up, then you need to install Xposed framework, enable the Greenify module in Xposed and then tick the option on Greenify for Wake-up Tracker and Cut-off. You can then disable having other apps open FB.
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How can I disable other apps from waking up FB (or in general waking up other apps)? Via Greenify? Or do I need another app?
You need to root, then look up the thread on xda on how to install Xposed framework.
Then enable Greenify on Xposed.
Then there is an option in Greenify to cut off the wake ups
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greenmark69 said:
You need to root, then look up the thread on xda on how to install Xposed framework.
Then enable Greenify on Xposed.
Then there is an option in Greenify to cut off the wake ups
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All done before. But beside a text notification below the name of the greenified app stating which app woke up the greenified app there is no possibility to cut off those wake-ups.
If you highlight FB on Greenify there should appear a scissors icon on the top left.
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greenmark69 said:
If you highlight FB on Greenify there should appear a scissors icon on the top left.
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Ah, yes. This was the option I was looking for. Thank you
For other users facing the same problem: selecting the app that has been woken up (still running, not yet greenified) by long-press -> clicking on the appearing scissor symbol in the action bar will open a pop up notification where you have to confirm you want to prevent this greenified app from being woken up by other apps.
orville87 said:
Ah, yes. This was the option I was looking for. Thank you
For other users facing the same problem: selecting the app that has been woken up (still running, not yet greenified) by long-press -> clicking on the appearing scissor symbol in the action bar will open a pop up notification where you have to confirm you want to prevent this greenified app from being woken up by other apps.
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can u post the screenshot as i m not able to see scissor sign. phone rooted and have xposed.
saadtariq73 said:
can u post the screenshot as i m not able to see scissor sign. phone rooted and have xposed.
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Hmm, quite difficult to take a screenshot, as I can't find another app on my device which wakes up other apps as I have already cut off all such apps.
Try the following steps:
1. Open an app of which you know that it wakes up FB.
2. Close this app or go back to your homescreen.
3. Open Greenify and go to the section, where all apps that are greenified are shown (not the section where you can add apps to be greenified!) -> should be start page by default.
4. Now you should see that the app you have opened is running, but also FB, which has been woken up by this app.
5. Long press on the FB entry.
6. Now the scissor symbol should appear in the action bar and you can prevent FB from being woken up.
orville87 said:
Hmm, quite difficult to take a screenshot, as I can't find another app on my device which wakes up other apps as I have already cut off all such apps.
Try the following steps:
1. Open an app of which you know that it wakes up FB.
2. Close this app or go back to your homescreen.
3. Open Greenify and go to the section, where all apps that are greenified are shown (not the section where you can add apps to be greenified!) -> should be start page by default.
4. Now you should see that the app you have opened is running, but also FB, which has been woken up by this app.
5. Long press on the FB entry.
6. Now the scissor symbol should appear in the action bar and you can prevent FB from being woken up.
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thanks, but see SS no scissor sign
saadtariq73 said:
thanks, but see SS no scissor sign
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Try short press instead of long press during step 5.
BTW: make sure you have enabled Greenify in Xposed modules, rebooted your device afterwards and enabled the option "Track and Cut Off" in Greenify's experimental options.
saadtariq73 said:
thanks, but see SS no scissor sign
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You seem to have some issue. I see that one app says it was woken up by 'Home' which means that Wake up Tracker and Cutoff is enabled. But the other apps do not say how they were woken up.
Better uninstall Greenify and then reinstall following the recommended procedure and for good measure clean up data also.
orville87 said:
Hmm, quite difficult to take a screenshot, as I can't find another app on my device which wakes up other apps as I have already cut off all such apps.
Try the following steps:
1. Open an app of which you know that it wakes up FB.
2. Close this app or go back to your homescreen.
3. Open Greenify and go to the section, where all apps that are greenified are shown (not the section where you can add apps to be greenified!) -> should be start page by default.
4. Now you should see that the app you have opened is running, but also FB, which has been woken up by this app.
5. Long press on the FB entry.
6. Now the scissor symbol should appear in the action bar and you can prevent FB from being woken up.
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Had the same problem, and this solved it! Thanx, this setting is sooooo non-intuitive...
I cut FB from SayHi and Skout. then i decided that i might actually want to have SayHi to be able to wake up FB, so I reattached it. but it seems to have reattached everything else to FB. and I can't see the scissors icon anymore. FB doesn't say "woken up by..", it now says "content provided: AttributionIdProvider". I have tried clearing data and reinstalling the 3 apps and Greenify itself, didn't fix it. Any ideas? Thanks!
I'm on rooted S4 mini LTE running Android 4.4.2 stock and Greenify 2.6 beta 8.
nvm, scissors are showing on Greenify 2.5.2.
Is the "Track and Cut Off" function still on Greenify? I can't find it in version 2.7.1. Or is it a paid function?
Nayibmc said:
Is the "Track and Cut Off" function still on Greenify? I can't find it in version 2.7.1. Or is it a paid function?
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I am on v2.7.1 (donation version) and the wake-up path cut-off option is still available for me, despite the fact that there is no checkbox to tick in the experimental options any more.
Nayibmc said:
Is the "Track and Cut Off" function still on Greenify? I can't find it in version 2.7.1. Or is it a paid function?
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Yesterday the Dev stated this in another sub thread:
"Since the wake-up cut-off engine is upgraded in 2.6, Greenify now does not list the detailed paths cut-off due to the complexity, and the "re-attach" action re-attaches all the paths cut-off. I'm planning to bring back more details in Greenify for cut-off paths in the future version."
So is the Cut-off thing just for the donation version?
Nayibmc said:
So is the Cut-off thing just for the donation version?
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As I am using the donation version and have this option available, whereas you don't have this option, I would say: yes. But have you tried looking for the scissor icon for different apps? The wakeup-path cut-off option does not work for all apps, so you might want to check it by clicking on apps that are listed under "running" when you open Greenify (main screen).
Nayibmc said:
So is the Cut-off thing just for the donation version?
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Yes.
I have recently bought the donation pack for greenify and I have several questions. First of all, I want to say that the app is really fulfilling all my expectations but as someone worried about my battery performance I still have some question, but first I'll say the conditions of my smartphone:
Samsung galaxy s5 with lollipop using greenify 2.5.2 donation pack (non rooted)
Questions:
1) I cannot see apps like chrome to be greenified and I want to have them like that as I see chrome takes up to several hours of internet connection even if I have just used it for some minutes. I wonder this is possible because I suppose this can be made as in other apps like battery killers, chrome can be killed, but I just haven't seen how.
2) Everytime I open greenify there are many "pending" apps that are not hibernated, even if I click in "zzz" button or in the button that says "hibernate and turn off the screen". The only way to deal with these pending apps is to select all of them and click on "zzz". I guess there should be a way to have them automatically hibernated.
3) There is an option in the menu that talks about an automatic manner to do this but I don't see how to activate it. I have it marked the greenify options for locking the screen but there are even more things to set that I don't see where and how. Maybe you can guide me in this better. In case I have this option chosen, pending apps will be automatically closed after some minutes, as it is said? if so, how many minutes?
Thanks in advance!
paco_ramirez said:
Questions:
1) I cannot see apps like chrome to be greenified and I want to have them like that as I see chrome takes up to several hours of internet connection even if I have just used it for some minutes. I wonder this is possible because I suppose this can be made as in other apps like battery killers, chrome can be killed, but I just haven't seen how.
2) Everytime I open greenify there are many "pending" apps that are not hibernated, even if I click in "zzz" button or in the button that says "hibernate and turn off the screen". The only way to deal with these pending apps is to select all of them and click on "zzz". I guess there should be a way to have them automatically hibernated.
3) There is an option in the menu that talks about an automatic manner to do this but I don't see how to activate it. I have it marked the greenify options for locking the screen but there are even more things to set that I don't see where and how. Maybe you can guide me in this better. In case I have this option chosen, pending apps will be automatically closed after some minutes, as it is said? if so, how many minutes?
Thanks in advance!
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Have you set Greenify to "on" in SETTINGS>Accessibility?
If you want to manually hibernate, create the shortcut from within Greenify (use the three button icon on the top right). When you use the shortcut, the chosen apps will be hibernated and the screen will be locked afterwards.
In Autohibernate, the time taken for hibernation varies but all apps should be hibernated within 10 minutes max.
For hibernating system apps like Chrome, I think you need root permission.
Yes, the accesibility for Greenify is set to activated. However this options is never enabled within the "experimental settings" menu. It's always set to off. So I have never seen my phone awaking ten minutes after to turn off all pending apps. They remain opened. Any hint?.
Best regards!
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Yes, the accesibility for Greenify is set to activated. However this options is never enabled within the "experimental settings" menu. It's always set to off. So I have never seen my phone awaking ten minutes after to turn off all pending apps. They remain opened. Any hint?.
Best regards!
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When you click the "always off" Automatic Hibernation option in Experimental Features, what happened? It is supposed to be a accessibility setting dialog for you to enable the accessibility service from Greenify for the first time, then Device Admin dialog to enable the other service for the second time, and being checked at last for the third time.
Here I post the sequence I do in screenshots. Evrytime I click in that button it appears the same dialog. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong...but i dont get it working and I have to hibernate manually pending apps
Thanks for helping! ?
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Here I post the sequence I do in screenshots. Evrytime I click in that button it appears the same dialog. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong...but i dont get it working and I have to hibernate manually pending apps
Thanks for helping! ?
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Have you enabled 'secure key guard'?
If so, disable it and then check.
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Have you enabled 'secure key guard'?
If so, disable it and then check.
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Yes! it was that!. I supposed it was enough by allowing greenify in the security menu. Thanks!
However, I wanted to have it working because I thought it was the only way to have pending apps hibernated because with the button "hibernate and lock" was not hibernating pending apps. After rebooting the phone (thing that I do seldom) it works as I expected. I guess this was the cause why greenify wasn't worked as I expected. Then, for me it is ok if I have that button since it does what I expected to.
Thanks to all!
Heya!
I just bought/donated this awsome app but i can't find chrome in the app-list. What am i missing?
Cheers!
*Edit* i'm rooted with system apps visble through xposed.
faldo said:
Heya!
I just bought/donated this awsome app but i can't find chrome in the app-list. What am i missing?
Cheers!
*Edit* i'm rooted with system apps visble through xposed.
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It may be already hibernated. So check the hibernated list also.
Are you using Greenify in root or boost mode? In the App Picker in Greenify, click the three dot button at top right and select Show All and then scroll down in the App Picker and choose More Apps and check the list.
Heya Chennai, thanx for your reply.
I'm running root mode and I've checked all lists, it's nowhere to be found. In fact it's not the only app i can't see, Play Store and some others are missing too.
faldo said:
Heya Chennai, thanx for your reply.
I'm running root mode and I've checked all lists, it's nowhere to be found. In fact it's not the only app i can't see, Play Store and some others are missing too.
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Strange. Might try uninstall/reinstall as I see none if these issues on multiple devices. Acts as if missing root or permissions.
Try ticking the "Show all" in overflow menu of App Analyzer.
oasisfeng said:
Try ticking the "Show all" in overflow menu of App Analyzer.
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Thanx, that solved it, i was under the impression that "show all" was meant to show the apps i had already greenified... that checkbox should be renamed to "show hidden services" or something.
faldo said:
Thanx, that solved it, i was under the impression that "show all" was meant to show the apps i had already greenified... that checkbox should be renamed to "show hidden services" or something.
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Thanks for the suggestion.
Has anyone experienced on overly aggressive closing of apps by the OS on the phone?
I run "Conversations" as an XMPP messenger on my phone (https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=conversations&fdid=eu.siacs.conversations). Previously, had it installed on a couple Samsung devices without issue.
Eventually, after the Honor 5x is inactive, Conversations will be closed and I cannot receive messages until the app is loaded again. Even when telling the app to keep itself in the foreground (by way of notification drawer), the OS still closes the app when the phone is inactive for a while.
I would assume this issue is with EMUI, but I am not sure. Can anyone else shed some light on this?
It is an EMUI thing. You will do yourself a huge favor if you go to settings>Power saving>Protected apps, hit "menu" and "Add all"
rdbud said:
It is an EMUI thing. You will do yourself a huge favor if you go to settings>Power saving>Protected apps, hit "menu" and "Add all"
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@rdbud, Thank you, that appears to be right on. This phone is my wife's phone, and she confirmed that the app stays running now. Good find.
terrypearson said:
@rdbud, Thank you, that appears to be right on. This phone is my wife's phone, and she confirmed that the app stays running now. Good find.
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You can also "lock" an app in memory by hitting the Recents app square and then sliding down on any app. It will place a lock icon next to the app to show it is protected.
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@rdbud, Thank you, that appears to be right on. This phone is my wife's phone, and she confirmed that the app stays running now. Good find.
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Keep in mind that it won't protect any subsequent apps you install. So if you install any new apps, you should go back in and make sure it's protected.
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honordevice said:
You can also "lock" an app in memory by hitting the Recents app square and then sliding down on any app. It will place a lock icon next to the app to show it is protected.
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That's an interesting feature, but is it the same as the protecting the apps in the settings? Or does it keep that app locked open so switching is easier? I have all my apps protected, but none of them have locks in the Recents app.
The only true solution that many dont know is
Just open the "phone accelerator" app .
Then open settings and then protected apps
And check the app that u want to run in the background .
Once done , now check ! U wil be able to receive notifications from the app u wished to run in the background.
Hi,
I would like to know how to force "State always ignored for hibernation". There are a couple of apps that are still popping up and refuse to hibernate and I still haven't been able to figure out how to force showing the message about ignoring one app state. I haven't been able to do it since earlier versions. Guess it is something very simple but I have tried many things and still have no clue
colibris79 said:
Hi,
I would like to know how to force "State always ignored for hibernation". There are a couple of apps that are still popping up and refuse to hibernate and I still haven't been able to figure out how to force showing the message about ignoring one app state. I haven't been able to do it since earlier versions. Guess it is something very simple but I have tried many things and still have no clue
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Long press the app which should be hibernated while showing up in 'Pending Hibernation' list. You will get the option either in the three dot menu or on pulling up the green bar at the bottom depending on the setup.
tnsmani said:
Long press the app which should be hibernated while showing up in 'Pending Hibernation' list. You will get the option either in the three dot menu or on pulling up the green bar at the bottom depending on the setup.
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Thanks but I don't get those options. When Iong press I only get the zzz option next to a - option. If I select with normal press I get the three dots on top bar but I don't get that one. I just can press "Put into hibernation now".
I am in version 3.3 since I had problems with last versions but I think it's been like this since older versions. I am using Orion 2.7 ROM (Android 6)
colibris79 said:
Thanks but I don't get those options. When Iong press I only get the zzz option next to a - option. If I select with normal press I get the three dots on top bar but I don't get that one. I just can press "Put into hibernation now".
I am in version 3.3 since I had problems with last versions but I think it's been like this since older versions. I am using Orion 2.7 ROM (Android 6)
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Greenify v3.3 does not support this feature; you need to upgrade.
Davey126 said:
Greenify v3.3 does not support this feature; you need to upgrade.
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The thing is that sometimes the option pops up (I have several apps hibernated with it). I just don't know how to force it myself.
Which version has it? Version 3.5 was giving me problems.
EDIT: Ok. I am back to version 3.6. I hope things go better this time.
Thanks both for your help.
colibris79 said:
The thing is that sometimes the option pops up (I have several apps hibernated with it). I just don't know how to force it myself.
Which version has it? Version 3.5 was giving me problems.
EDIT: Ok. I am back to version 3.6. I hope things go better this time.
Thanks both for your help.
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Sorry to reopen this post again. But in one device that has Android 4.2.2 I just can install Greenify V. 3.0 build 5 (donation package). And I don't have the three dots options so I don't know how to force the options about ignoring state or cut the wake-up path to pop up...
Found it. I had to disable "Deep hibernation" from the experimental features. Now I can see the cut-off option again