Second Screen Really Power Efficient? - LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is LG's claim of 5% per day drain if the second screen is left on all day true? Recently just discovered that there is no more notification light as it was replaced by the second screen for notifications.

I have been using the second screen for one whole day and then today all day without it and didn't even notice a difference a difference in battery drain or gain in both days comparison. Used my v10 like normal and nothing less.

The banner has a separate LED when the main screen is off.
Moreover, it uses proximity sensor to turn on/off the banner.

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[Q] Battery, Screen power and your mileage

Greetings,
First off I'd like to say that I absolutely love this device. I had the Evo 4G prior to this but about 3 months ago I dropped it on accident and destroyed my screen, then tried to replace the screen myself and it didn't go so well so I have spent the last 3 months using a Rumor touch to tide me over (). I'm happy with the Evo 3D beyond belief but I had a few questions to ask because I am not getting the amazing battery life that people have been so thrilled about.
First off I have background data disabled, auto sync is tuned down but not turned off completely (though it is turned off for things like htcsense.com and the like, only on for gmail and weather). I have adjusted the screen brightness down to around 20% but occasionally bump it up in high-light situations. I've also installed Juice Defender which helped a great deal, but I'm still noticing some strange behavior.
Is it common for the screen to be hogging the battery life like none other? I was able to go 14 hours yesterday with Juice Defender on, but i was also working for 12 of those hours and using my phone very little, so i'm willing to say that 80% of the time the phone was in standby/sleep mode (and i verified this by looking at up vs awake times). The thing that baffles me about this is that the battery usage says that the display used up 80% of my battery. How is this possible when the phone's screen wasn't even on that entire time, does the screen really pull that much power when its on?
My capacitive buttons are on full brightness while the screen is on no matter the light situation, is this as intended or could this be a defect drawing too much power?
Anyone else having battery problems?
i have issues when im at work with little to no signal which zaps the battery pretty hard, do you have issues with signal? (you can check under the batter graph, cell standy should list a percent without signal, mine yesterday was like 44 percent from being at work)
Other than that how long have you had the phone and have you calibrated the battery? It should improve over the first few charges, especially if you've calibrated.
That's odd, i have pretty decent signal here but under the "cell usage" i have 75% time spent without signal but the cell usage only was 8% of total battery use, and still 70% used for the screen. Does JuiceDefender turning off the 3g account for any of that 75% time spent without signal or is it truly phone signal loss
Sorry yeah I did calibrate the battery before the 14 hour period i was referring to.

[Q] Display literally destroying battery life

So across all roms I have tried the display literally destroys the battery life of my phone. While the screen is off I get fine battery life. But when the screen is on I can watch my percentage decrease about 2-3% every minute so after a half hour of browsing my battery is gone.
I have an extended battery as well but that just prolongs it slightly. The brightness is about half right now. Is this normal?
Does not sound Normal but display is the largest user of battery( unless one can use the phone with display off
I had as video streaming yesterday for 30+ min from 80% it went to 14%
haven't tried keeping just display on should try that ...test for tomorrow
NickTheMajin said:
So across all roms I have tried the display literally destroys the battery life of my phone. While the screen is off I get fine battery life. But when the screen is on I can watch my percentage decrease about 2-3% every minute so after a half hour of browsing my battery is gone.
I have an extended battery as well but that just prolongs it slightly. The brightness is about half right now. Is this normal?
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I have my brightness set to 15% and it still sucks about half of my battery use. The display is unfortunately nearly unstoppable when it comes to battery drain. HTC and others are like "BIG PHONE DISPLAY!!!1!111!" we're all like "I can haz batteries?"
That description is the best description of our issue.
But an answer to your question, drop you brightness to as low as you can stand it and if possible try to limit the amount of times you wake the display in a day the juice it requires to turn it on is greater than it needs to sustain the screen on.
I would say yes for the most part. We have a fantastic and power hungry display...the price for greatness?
That being said, its not so bad dropped down to 25% or so, and easily viewable, except if you're outside.
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Alright thanks. I just wanted to make sure my phone wasn't experiencing something that is atypical. Other than that I do love this phone and the developers
It's hard to say. With screen on I loose about 1% a minute even with auto-brightness turned off and the screen at around 25%.
There are others on the forum that have made rather amazing battery life claims so it may come down the the individual device.
I have debated about returning mine for a different one to see if I get any better performance.
Diesel_71 said:
It's hard to say. With screen on I loose about 1% a minute even with auto-brightness turned off and the screen at around 25%.
There are others on the forum that have made rather amazing battery life claims so it may come down the the individual device.
I have debated about returning mine for a different one to see if I get any better performance.
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I'm not sure I would bother chasing longer battery life with new devices. A lot of those are very optimized use cases -- either all on wifi, all in areas with great signal, or lots of screen on time but they don't mention what brightness. The fact of the matter is the phone has a tiny battery and uses up a lot of power for the display and radios. I get somewhere between 12-16 hours on a stock battery, depending on where I am and how much I use the phone (generally I'm a pretty light user, but I do leave 4G and Bluetooth on all day).

serious problem with battery life.

Hi guys, I got my new LG P769 at Bestbuy two days ago and I think my phone have a huge problem with battery life.
As you can see a picture, it discharges so fast. There are three cliffs of its batter life in the picture, two big cliffs and small one.
It seems to be abnormal. further, battery was 75% when i went to bed last night but i noticed it went down by 35% while i was sleeping.
of course i didn't use it at all for 6 hours. The second cliff was occurred at that time,
Do I need to go to complain? Please let me know how to deal with that. Thank you!
forforp said:
Hi guys, I got my new LG P769 at Bestbuy two days ago and I think my phone have a huge problem with battery life.
As you can see a picture, it discharges so fast. There are three cliffs of its batter life in the picture, two big cliffs and small one.
It seems to be abnormal. further, battery was 75% when i went to bed last night but i noticed it went down by 35% while i was sleeping.
of course i didn't use it at all for 6 hours. The second cliff was occurred at that time,
Do I need to go to complain? Please let me know how to deal with that. Thank you!
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Hello Mate,
I too felt same feeling when I purchased this phone first.
But later I realised few things.
1) When you have inactive card with no signal, It keeps on searching for the network and drains a lot
2) The DISPLAY is by default at 100% and if you take it to 50% that is sufficient for indoor use, You save A LOT battery.
Now when I take the display to 100% it feels too much for me. When you are outdoor, you can raise it to readable level.
3) Keep on cleaning tasks and running apps. They DO EAT power even when you are not using the phone.
4) Same applies to the widgets. I really could not find personal implication of Weather widget that have storming animations and lightening data usage. (I am not a pilot nor sailor. No pun intended)
5) When your battery is new, you have to charge it to 100% at one go and use it till it discharges completely before you charge it for the next time. I read its called Conditioning of the battery. means telling it its limit of upper and lower value. This helps long lasting battery life.
6) last but not list and common. When Not in use keep WIFI, Bluetooth, GPS turned off.
They are hardware on our fone and demand their share of power. If you are too wary you can disable the autorotation also, that means one more sensor off and boon to battery. I dont turn it off. I need it a lot and often.
Some Few Tips I did more
1 Disable the Vibration
Vibration = mechanical Motor = Horse Power to eat your battery grass
2 Keep a dark wallpaper.
Light = Power to Light White bulbs on screen
Remember you are running a Dual core 4+Inches beast so you can not expect battery specs like simple fones. You can only smartify it to last longer through the day.
Bipin
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2 Keep a dark wallpaper.
Light = Power to Light White bulbs on screen
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False information. This device does not have an OLED screen so the pixel color has no effect on battery life.

Is anyone happy with the brightness Auto setting

Though I feel Brightness setting 1 (presumably the lowest brightness setting) is too bright, the Auto setting is a drasticly lower brightness level over all, washing out the sharpness and vibrancy of the display in both ambient on and ambient off modes. It seems a shame to have to settle for the flat tire watch face when the overall effect of the light sensor living in that area does not seem to provide a worthy purpose.
stevemw said:
Though I feel Brightness setting 1 (presumably the lowest brightness setting) is too bright, the Auto setting is a drasticly lower brightness level over all, washing out the sharpness and vibrancy of the display in both ambient on and ambient off modes. It seems a shame to have to settle for the flat tire watch face when the overall effect of the light sensor living in that area does not seem to provide a worthy purpose.
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I just purchased this watch and was wondering that same thing. It's too early to come to a conclusion as I've literally only had it for a few hours. I'm going to try auto with "always on" and see how that does with battery, then maybe try number 1 on the same setting. Far as the flat tire that everyone is upset about, I can already say I would have rather had manual adjustment only with a full circular screen. Oh well I did all my homework between this watch and the Huawei. The one thing that gave this an edge was the 400 battery and the ability to switch bands at will. After a week or so I should have a good idea if this was a good purchase.
I got mine last week. For mr it was the 400 mAh battery and the watch face size. Anything under 46mm or a band less than 22mm would look silly on me.
On autp thr active screen is practically unreadable while the ambient screen OK.
Strange thing: my battery just went ftom 92% to practically 0 in what seemed to be less than 2 hours. And the screen was off the entire time.
Battery is great for me. Only lost 20% in 12 hours, about half that time I was using the "always on" screen mode or it would have been even less. I am not going to be a heavy user so that makes a difference, if you're someone who is using it all the time it's going to be a different story I'm sure.
stevemw said:
I got mine last week. For mr it was the 400 mAh battery and the watch face size. Anything under 46mm or a band less than 22mm would look silly on me.
On autp thr active screen is practically unreadable while the ambient screen OK.
Strange thing: my battery just went ftom 92% to practically 0 in what seemed to be less than 2 hours. And the screen was off the entire time.
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Your graph say that your screen stay ON 62% of the time, so it drop the battery in 2H. Maybe something touch the screen and your watch stay ON ?
I sometimes notice while wearing short sleeves that the screen comes on and never goes off even though Always on is set to Off. I usually notice when the watch or watch face becomes warm. But generally battery life is fine, requiring a charge every other day.
Another reason I chose the Moto over the Huawei watch or any other is wireless charging. No more corroded pogo pins for me!
I am at 33% and still haven't charged since I got the watch on Thursday. I do turn it off at night like I do my phone, but nonetheless that is great far as I'm concerned.
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Dissatisfied with battery life.

Why does LG think it's ok to ship a watch with a 12 hour battery life, with minimal use. Just setting up the watch took %40 battery
Without sacrificing screen brightness is there anything to be done?? Is there any sort of root + cpu app we can lower CPU speed with??
Did you uncheck always on screen? Only option I have off and notice decent battery life for the entire day.
Mine goes for 16 hours once completely setup. If you start downloading and setting up this will surely tax the battery on any watch. The 240MAH doesn't help, but once setup it should be fine afterwards.
I had the LG G Watch R (w/ 420MAH) prior and setting up took a good deal of the battery but at EOD was at 65%, while the Style is at 40%.....understandable given the size of the battery.
I found mine was going dead by mid afternoon with little use.
I found turning auto screen brightness off and just leaving it on 4 helps. Also think after a couple of weeks use it's got better anyway. Usually on about 40-50% by the time I leave work.
Main problem I have is the little dial on the side is in a crop place, so my hand keeps pressing it an making assistant listen, eating up battery.
Really wish there was a screen rotation option so I could wear the watch with the dial on the opposite side.
Oh well!
I would like to see more options for ambient mode. I think the brightness is too high. I've only found one watchface that lets you control the color in ambient mode. It's called "line". I changed the ambient color to just red and decreased the opacity of the lines and complications. I've been off the charger for about an hour, received a few notifications and I'm still @ 99%. Might be a fluke, but I'm sure using a single color uses less battery than using white, which is all 3 colors combined.
This is my third smartwatch in 2 weeks. I've downgraded twice because others are just too bulky. I'm sure there's a solution out there. I hope battery life gets better in time with updates. I hate this range anxiety.
I just bought one and it is still too early to tell but battery life is fine for me. If I disable Bluetooth (which I know defeats the purpose of it) and WiFi with no ambient, it lasted me about 2 1/2 days (but I do turn it off at night since I have no need to keep it on while I sleep). If I keep Bluetooth on, no WiFi, and no ambient, it lasts the entire day (13 or 14 hours) with about 40% left. I have to do more testing (especially with ambient). You don't want the watch face on all the time anyway because it will cause screen burn-in. Some of the watch face apps allow you to use an ambient where it is usually black and white with less information showing.
Hello. Can anyone help with a battery model? Need to search for a replacement one but there is no info at the internet about its battery nor where to buy it....
777Nalsur777 said:
Hello. Can anyone help with a battery model? Need to search for a replacement one but there is no info at the internet about its battery nor where to buy it....
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Same here.
I looked everywhere. My battery is dead, it drops from 100% to around 30% as I disconnect it from the charger.
Even if we find the battery, the replacement looks hard. I was hoping to just get the Pixel Watch but I guess that's not going to happen.
Hi guys. Today I made a short video with opening of this device.
Enjoy.
https://youtu.be/LJ0vkpAjmjY

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