IS the 249 $ version of Oneplus X right for Europe ? - OnePlus X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

HI guys, so im thinking to buy Oneplus X, but i dont know if im geting the right version for europe, i cant buy from offical oneplus webiste , because they dont ship to my country, but i will buy from other websites like Aliexpress, somewhere near that price, i read that they say soemthing about google play sservices ! Are google play services installed on internactional veersion, or that version which am getting is Asian Version ?

Indian and international version has Google services China one does not have Google services
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loveboy_lion said:
Indian and international version has Google services China one does not have Google services
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any other diference or just that ?

Xhemal1325 said:
any other diference or just that ?
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Also, I think the Chinese OPX comes with HydrogenOS instead of OxygenOS.

Just my 2 cents, I'm stationed in Italy and I get H+, LTE, and H
So yes, it works great in Europe on vodafone

YoungSkeezy said:
Just my 2 cents, I'm stationed in Italy and I get H+, LTE, and H
So yes, it works great in Europe on vodafone
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well thanks, so what do you think about camiera , is it good ? im reading online people say that its worst , especialy in low light ! what do you think ?

Xhemal1325 said:
well thanks, so what do you think about camiera , is it good ? im reading online people say that its worst , especialy in low light ! what do you think ?
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To say I'm beyond happy with this device would be an understatement. I'm seriously considering selling my Nexus 6P. They're very comparable, and I know how crazy that sounds. They have a ton of similarities, fast camera, good battery life, stock experience.
The battery life on the 6p wins JUST due to standby time. If I use the OPX all day I'll get 4-5 SOT, where the 6P gets 3-4 SOT. But that standby time of the 6p is what makes it a winner.
When OPX gets 6.0, that doze feature will really kick it over the edge.
The only thing that holds me wanting the 6p still is the fingerprint reader and the front facing speakers... before the 6p I had the OP2, that device was horrible (TO ME AT LEAST) Fingerprint reader was crap, and the shape of the device was not comfortable to hold for a while
If you're considering getting the OPX, get it. It's a fantastic device that doesn't feel cheap in the slightest bit. It performs better than the Moto X Pure Edition (2015)
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Xhemal1325 said:
well thanks, so what do you think about camiera , is it good ? im reading online people say that its worst , especialy in low light ! what do you think ?
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One major negative however is how slippery the OPX is, as I sat there typing that is slid off the couch (which I though was level)
It's like ice slippery. GRIPPY to hold though... while holding you'll never worry about it slipping out of your hands, the glass is way grippier than the iPhone 4/4s

YoungSkeezy said:
To say I'm beyond happy with this device would be an understatement. I'm seriously considering selling my Nexus 6P. They're very comparable, and I know how crazy that sounds. They have a ton of similarities, fast camera, good battery life, stock experience.
The battery life on the 6p wins JUST due to standby time. If I use the OPX all day I'll get 4-5 SOT, where the 6P gets 3-4 SOT. But that standby time of the 6p is what makes it a winner.
When OPX gets 6.0, that doze feature will really kick it over the edge.
The only thing that holds me wanting the 6p still is the fingerprint reader and the front facing speakers... before the 6p I had the OP2, that device was horrible (TO ME AT LEAST) Fingerprint reader was crap, and the shape of the device was not comfortable to hold for a while
If you're considering getting the OPX, get it. It's a fantastic device that doesn't feel cheap in the slightest bit. It performs better than the Moto X Pure Edition (2015)
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One major negative however is how slippery the OPX is, as I sat there typing that is slid off the couch (which I though was level)
It's like ice slippery. GRIPPY to hold though... while holding you'll never worry about it slipping out of your hands, the glass is way grippier than the iPhone 4/4s
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well it seems great from you review, even people say camera is bad on low light, i still dont know, im considering to buy htc one m8 (refurbished ) or this, the only this which is keeping me away from buying OPX is about that camera !! However i cant buy it from OnePLus web, because they dont ship to Albania (where i live ), i need try AliExpress, or something else ....

The camera on the m8 is the worst camera out there. I haven't tried the oneplusx low light.. I'll try it out tonight and post some samples

YoungSkeezy said:
The camera on the m8 is the worst camera out there. I haven't tried the oneplusx low light.. I'll try it out tonight and post some samples
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well i use much front camera, and m8 seems to have a good one, idk about oneplus x , but compared to nexus 5x (from review from android authority ) nexus x was way more better

YoungSkeezy said:
The camera on the m8 is the worst camera out there. I haven't tried the oneplusx low light.. I'll try it out tonight and post some samples
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^^This is TOTALLY UNTRUE. The M8 has an excellent camera. The ONLY downside is the pics are only 4MP. So Zoom/Crop totally destroys the image. Low light pics are pretty great too. Better than this camera for sure.
Also, just the M8. The M8 Eye camera sucks.
The M8 also is optimized better than this phone. It just flies.
That being said, I would never buy a used or refurbished phone.
The M8 also has a better front camera. Better lighting and so on. Only 5MP though.

Can someone tell me whats the diference betwen a china version vs internacional version ? since opeplus does not ship to my country, i need to buy it from AliExpress and they wil sell me a china version ?

nachiketa.ramesh said:
^^This is TOTALLY UNTRUE. The M8 has an excellent camera. The ONLY downside is the pics are only 4MP. So Zoom/Crop totally destroys the image. Low light pics are pretty great too. Better than this camera for sure.
Also, just the M8. The M8 Eye camera sucks.
The M8 also is optimized better than this phone. It just flies.
That being said, I would never buy a used or refurbished phone.
The M8 also has a better front camera. Better lighting and so on. Only 5MP though.
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http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/HTC-One-M8-4.1Mp-sensor-ranks-outside-the-DxOMark-top-10
Dxomark begs to differ... And that's when the phone was NEW.
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Xhemal1325 said:
Can someone tell me whats the diference betwen a china version vs internacional version ? since opeplus does not ship to my country, i need to buy it from AliExpress and they wil sell me a china version ?
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Id check on the onplus forums in their website.. I'm sure people have asked the identical questions with shipping solutions
Worst case I can think of is you'll find it has hydrogen os which you can just easily just root and toss oxygen os on

YoungSkeezy said:
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/HTC-One-M8-4.1Mp-sensor-ranks-outside-the-DxOMark-top-10
Dxomark begs to differ... And that's when the phone was NEW.
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Id check on the onplus forums in their website.. I'm sure people have asked the identical questions with shipping solutions
Worst case I can think of is you'll find it has hydrogen os which you can just easily just root and toss oxygen os on
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Read the article yourself. The One M8s weaknesses are noise under low light, where and stabilisation of videos, not colors and detail, both of which come out quite well, even if you lose some accuracy. You have to remember this is a 4MP sensor. It may not compete with the Z2, but its damn good for a 4 MP sensor. Sure, 4MP is not very sharp, but plenty good for social media, as long as you don't crop. The X on the other hand will do nothing in low light. Forget noise, you'll get nothing. Colors on the X are pleasing, though less accurate than the M8. The M8 overall takes better pictures, as long as you don't mind the loss of detail in the smaller sensor.
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you can contact the seller and ask them help you install the OS Which you want then will be ok
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Get the 1+X 1003-version, it works flawlessly in Europe.
About the camera, i can understand why YoungSkeezy hasn't posted any low light pictures yet because they don't really turn out that good tbh. If you want to get a good camera, buy a Galaxy S6... on the other hand, that's almost the only thing that stands out with the S6
I can just repeat what all the serious reviewers tell you, the 1+X is a great phone for its price. There are better phones out there but not by far.
If you ask me, for the reasonable price the pros are:
- Good looks, slim and build quality
- Decent APU for the phone size, two years old but copes with most tasks
- 3Gig RAM helps quite a lot
- Excellent screen
- Dual SIM or SD-slot
- Close to stock android experiance out of the box
- 3-way notification slider
...and the cons are:
- No fingerprint reader
- No NFC
- Mediocre camera
- Only about 12 or the 16GB of storage is available if you use 2 SIMs

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Anyone Prefer the Galaxy S5 over the M8?

I have this urge to abandon the m8 and go for the Galaxy s5. Mainly because I've read online about the gs5's wonderful camera and the fact that it's lighter than the m8 with pretty much the same specs.
I think the gs5 will be better to hold because of its texture and weight plus I've also read online that the screen is the best screen out there even under sunlight.
Has anyone spent any time with this phone? Anyone in a similar boat as me and has come back to the M8?
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Have you ever held a Samsung Galaxy phone before....scratch that...have you ever dropped a Samsung Galaxy phone before. I've done both and will not buy that cheap plastic crap ever again.
They feel light and cheap. My GS4 LCD and glass broke from a waist hight drop onto the floor while in a TPU case with a glass screen protector on it.
Never again.
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androidbuff123 said:
I have this urge to abandon the m8 and go for the Galaxy s5. Mainly because I've read online about the gs5's wonderful camera and the fact that it's lighter than the m8 with pretty much the same specs.
I think the gs5 will be better to hold because of its texture and weight plus I've also read online that the screen is the best screen out there even under sunlight.
Has anyone spent any time with this phone? Anyone in a similar boat as me and has come back to the M8?
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I preordered the gs5 and after one day traded for the M8. Main reason was that the gs5 bootloader is locked down and I cant stand touchwiz. The phone felt cheap, too light, cheap back, same old slow touchgiz and cool features disabled for US models. The phone did have awesome camera but is not needed really since most people just post pictures online and pictures are always downsized anyways. I find the better light capture of the M8 more useable than the higher pixel count. The m8's front 5MP is also very useful for you selfie users. The other cool thing the samsung had is the water resistance.
Other than that the HTC is way better, just having open bootloader and Sense is the best reason to stay. Also sound quality both speakers and headphone are way better. I would never ever think about going back to a cheap feeling touchgiz phone again.
Good replies both of you.
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My wife had the GS5 and I had the M8 as new customers to AT&T and my wife did everything in her power to rid herself of the GS5 and pleaded I exchange it for the(in her words) phone with the speakers in the front,this phone has such a shi**y speaker and I can't stand to use it..It's been 3 weeks since the switch and I have yet to hear her say one bad thing about the M8..That means a lot to me because my wife doesn't really give 2 s**** about the best phone technology.All she knew was her phone sounded like crap and she didn't want to deal with it anymore.She's even using pie controls now(mind blown) Can't get her into BlinkFeed though,such a shame.
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I'm considering trading for a local galaxy s5 for my m8.. The camera is just not cutting it..I thought It would be good enough but it isn't..I will miss the build quality and speakers but I'm pretty fixed on going ahead
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touchwiz for me was the best reason to stay away, and the lockdown bootloader was another deal breaker for me.
as far as the M8 goes i havent found anything wrong with it, people complain about the camera but for me it does the job, if i want better pics ill buy a camera and not a phone.
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touchwiz for me was the best reason to stay away, and the lockdown bootloader was another deal breaker for me.
as far as the M8 goes i havent found anything wrong with it, people complain about the camera but for me it does the job, if i want better pics ill buy a camera and not a phone.
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yeah the camera is just fine for me as well..Sure it's not as good as others but the difference between the 2 is pretty minimal when compared to just using a half decent camera to begin with...Selfies though on the M8 will pretty much destroy anything the GS5 can do.But for regular photo's it gets the job done
There is two fundamentally different strategies with cameras here. Samsung can afford to invest in camera because that's all it has to offer besides the same hardware speeds and Android skinned experience. HTC gave people what the need in everyday life (plus a 5mp selfie cam), with some new tech to improve the pixels. It comes down to they both gotta make money also. HTC went the high build quality with r&d in cam and less features (gimmicks) and Samsung has high features and high camera and lacks in build on purpose.
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Also add marketing in the Samsung bucket
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I was just actually considering it myself but to tell you the truth, there is nothing Negative I can actually say about the M8. Maybe it's just the phone junkie in me wanting to try it out but I have been in love with how smooth Sense is. I usually can't stand TouchWiz but then I install Nova Launcher and my experience is right back positive with the Samsung interface. With the M8 it's so smooth out the box, this is the only device that I haven't I installed Nova Launcher on and I'm very impressed. Might calm my phone tech ways down and stick with the M8.
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If you are buying a phone for the camera, either go Nokia (sure it's WP, but no one can touch their cams), or LG. I had the G2, and the cam was amazing, and I can only imagine what the G3 brings. I have had every phone released in the past 4 years, and by far the G2 blew every other away. Samsung has gotten fat and lazy and better watch what's coming from behind.
Yea I think the HTC camera is truly unappreciated. It truly is pretty decent now that I'm testing it under low light condition. It is kinda heavy though especially with a skinny TPU case even though the case is pretty light. 160 grams is already on the high side.
I'm also not liking the fact that though HTC says the screen is 5 inches, it is only so when viewing media in full screen.
The screen measures about 4.5 inches without considering the black band for the on screen buttons. Oh why did HTC do that!
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I had the Galaxy S5 before I had this M8 and I didn't like it at all and I usually like Samsung phones but this one I did not like at all. To laggy, felt slow, glitches, and not much changes from the S4. I'm happy with my M8 it's way better than the S5 in my opinion. And my dad had the Galaxy S4 and wanted to get the S5 but after he saw it's not much changes he got the M8 also and he loves it.
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Troll thread smells like a troll.
Seriously though, its silly to ask such a question in the M8 forum. Obviously, most of us here bought the M8 because we prefer the M8; and you aren't going to get too many responses to the contrary in this forum. Ask the same question in the GS5 forums, and you will get a lot of the opposite responses.
As to how I came to decide: I was highly interested in the M8, but decided to wait and see what the GS5 would bring. Also, since I wasn't up for a subsidized device upgrade until May anyway, it was not an issue waiting for the GS5 release. I soundly decided on the M8 for the following reasons:
M8:
- Much better speakers, and front facing
- Much better body design
- Bootloader unlockable
- Camera is better in low light, where I take most of my photos
GS5:
- Bootloader locked down
- Cheap plastic body. I don't hate it as much as others. I actually prefer the "dimpled" texture to the previous smooth plastic, which looked super cheesy. But it simply is not even on the same playing field as the M8's gorgeous metal unibody
- Some might say the body finish on the M8 is too easily scratched. And the GS5 is to some extent waterproof. So the GS5 may have a slight advantage in the durability department
- I don't despise TouchWiz as much as others. Its actually come a long way, and I haven't actually minded it too much on my Tab Pro 8.4. But Sense is simply a cut above in both looks and functionality
- Camera is better in well lit situations
- Has the heart beat sensor and fingerprint reader. But I don't think I would use these much, and they seem gimmicky, and also reportedly are finicky to use based on reviews.
While I was mostly decided when going to the AT&T store, I did try to give the GS5 a fair look and one last chance. It just felt super cheap and crappy compared to the M8, laggy in comparison, and TouchWiz was annoying alongside Sense. It was never much of a contest to begin with. But holding them both in hand closed the deal.
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androidbuff123 said:
Mainly because I've read online about the gs5's wonderful camera and the fact that it's lighter than the m8 with pretty much the same specs.
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AnandTech has the best (objective, detailed, and most technical) smartphone camera analyses I've read. Most review websites will just say "we like the camera better", or "the pics look better" without giving much, if any, technical explanation or objective reasoning.
My takeaway from AnandTech's review of the GS5 is that its better in well lit situations, while clearly loses out in low light. GS5 is more MP, which is of course an advantage if you will be blowing up or cropping the images. So a lot of it comes down to how you use the camera. But I would not say the GS5 camera is superior across the board.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/2
As far as the weight, the difference is only 0.53 ounces or 15 grams. I don't see why this would matter in any way. In your pocket, you will not even feel the difference. If you think this will fatigue you more to hold up an extra half ounce, you probably need to exercise more (do a bunch of 12-ounce curls!).
redpoint73 said:
Troll thread smells like a troll.
Seriously though, its silly to ask such a question in the M8 forum. Obviously, most of us here bought the M8 because we prefer the M8; and you aren't going to get too many responses to the contrary in this forum. Ask the same question in the GS5 forums, and you will get a lot of the opposite responses.
As to how I came to decide: I was highly interested in the M8, but decided to wait and see what the GS5 would bring. Also, since I wasn't up for a subsidized device upgrade until May anyway, it was not an issue waiting for the GS5 release. I soundly decided on the M8 for the following reasons:
M8:
- Much better speakers, and front facing
- Much better body design
- Bootloader unlockable
- Camera is better in low light, where I take most of my photos
GS5:
- Bootloader locked down
- Cheap plastic body. I don't hate it as much as others. I actually prefer the "dimpled" texture to the previous smooth plastic, which looked super cheesy. But it simply is not even on the same playing field as the M8's gorgeous metal unibody
- Some might say the body finish on the M8 is too easily scratched. And the GS5 is to some extent waterproof. So the GS5 may have a slight advantage in the durability department
- I don't despise TouchWiz as much as others. Its actually come a long way, and I haven't actually minded it too much on my Tab Pro 8.4. But Sense is simply a cut above in both looks and functionality
- Camera is better in well lit situations
- Has the heart beat sensor and fingerprint reader. But I don't think I would use these much, and they seem gimmicky, and also reportedly are finicky to use based on reviews.
While I was mostly decided when going to the AT&T store, I did try to give the GS5 a fair look and one last chance. It just felt super cheap and crappy compared to the M8, laggy in comparison, and TouchWiz was annoying alongside Sense. It was never much of a contest to begin with. But holding them both in hand closed the deal.
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AnandTech has the best (objective, detailed, and most technical) smartphone camera analyses I've read. Most review websites will just say "we like the camera better", or "the pics look better" without giving much, if any, technical explanation or objective reasoning.
My takeaway from AnandTech's review of the GS5 is that its better in well lit situations, while clearly loses out in low light. GS5 is more MP, which is of course an advantage if you will be blowing up or cropping the images. So a lot of it comes down to how you use the camera. But I would not say the GS5 camera is superior across the board.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/2
As far as the weight, the difference is only 0.53 ounces or 15 grams. I don't see why this would matter in any way. In your pocket, you will not even feel the difference. If you think this will fatigue you more to hold up an extra half ounce, you probably need to exercise more (do a bunch of 12-ounce curls!).
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Your post is insulting, informative and helpful all at the same time ?
Thanks.
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I went from the Galaxy S2, S3, S4 then to the S5. I did not mind the plastic feel of the Galaxies. I actually prefer it for the weight. I never had a problem damaging my phone since I always had a case on it. Anyways, I bought the S5 and returned it in a week. Let me tell you why..
1. Locked boot loader and no root.. This was a VERY big deal and was the main reason why switching to the M8
> Cannot remove bloatware. I tried disabling and hiding some of the apps but it still bothered me.
> Got sick of checking the forums every hour in hope for someone unlocking the boot loader or getting root
2. Finger print unlocking sucks.. Most of the time I had to enter in my PIN after so many failures when I actually needed the phone. If I concentrated, it would work half the time.
> Heart rate monitor is useless.
3. A little too wide for me and it did not feel comfortable holding with one hand. Holding the M8 feels great and I like the feel of the curve
4. Laggy as hell.. Even with a higher cpu clockrate than the M8, it felt laggy even switching from one window to another!
5. Last but not least.. Same sh*t like all the other Galaxies. I felt I was in 2009 with the S5 with looks and appeal.
my 2 cents.
Wow. I just read Anandtech's review of both the M8 and the Galaxy S5. Holy cow! The M8 beats the S5 in pretty much all tests. (barring daylight camera tests of course)
It's amazing to learn really how REFINED HTC's design is overall.
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androidbuff123 said:
I have this urge to abandon the m8 and go for the Galaxy s5. Mainly because I've read online about the gs5's wonderful camera and the fact that it's lighter than the m8 with pretty much the same specs.
I think the gs5 will be better to hold because of its texture and weight plus I've also read online that the screen is the best screen out there even under sunlight.
Has anyone spent any time with this phone? Anyone in a similar boat as me and has come back to the M8?
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I just jumped ship from the S5 to the M8 last night. This was a hard choice to make and I'm still not sure I made the right one yet. First off, I think I could have got a bad device because of touch sounds not working...and yes the volume is up and the proper boxes are ticked. I am trying so hard to like this phone and I think my main problem is being used to touchwiz.
Don't get me wrong, there is a ton to like about the M8, but there is also a ton to dislike. My reason for jumping ship is because of no root and locked bootloader.
No bashing me please lol!
Samsung could easily do something similar to HTCDev but they have proven time and time again (by action) that they don't care about developers (unless you buy a GPE or developer edition, but why should you have to?)
And build quality. It makes me wonder why the Galaxy Series is where it is instead of HTC being in that spot.
I actually prefer the S5. I had it but wanted to try the M8 do I traded it but I prefer the S5. It really is a matter of opinion.
I prefer the S5 because it's grippier, the M8 is kinda slippery. I also prefer the UI believe it or not, sense is kinda boring but it performs flawlessly.
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An honest reply, please: How good is this phone?

I recently got to try one out. I loved its look and build. UI's pretty smooth. Display's really good, a major improvement from previous Z iterations. However, 5-10 minutes of tinkering isn't sufficient enough to get a good idea. So, do tell me: How good is this phone? In particular, how's the battery life? Are there any issues with overheating? I look forward to an honest reply.
I love it. My biggest issue is that the touch screen is too sensitive to sweat, and on a hot day the phone can make my hands sweat pretty bad! Battery life is totally amazing. I came from the Nexus 5 (which had better battery life then the N4)
MarcSinger said:
I recently got to try one out. I loved its look and build. UI's pretty smooth. Display's really good, a major improvement from previous Z iterations. However, 5-10 minutes of tinkering isn't sufficient enough to get a good idea. So, do tell me: How good is this phone? In particular, how's the battery life? Are there any issues with overheating? I look forward to an honest reply.
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This year I've owned the Nexus5, LG G3, M8 and the Z2. I would say for best all round performance and features the Z2 is the best flagship. The M8 is a close second but it has a poor camera. The Z2 is smooth and fast, has a good large long lasting battery, a good camera and a great adjustable crisp display.There is overheating when using the 4k video recording after around 10-20min but not in normal use for me. Its not perfect but its the best I've used this year.
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blackalice said:
I love it. My biggest issue is that the touch screen is too sensitive to sweat, and on a hot day the phone can make my hands sweat pretty bad! Battery life is totally amazing. I came from the Nexus 5 (which had better battery life then the N4)
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The sensitive touch screen bug is sorted in the new firmware.
Batfink33 said:
This year I've owned the Nexus5, LG G3, M8 and the Z2. I would say for best all round performance and features the Z2 is the best flagship. The M8 is a close second but it has a poor camera. The Z2 is smooth and fast, has a good large long lasting battery, a good camera and a great adjustable crisp display.There is overheating when using the 4k video recording after around 10-20min but not in normal use for me. Its not perfect but its the best I've used this year.
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The sensitive touch screen bug is sorted in the new firmware.
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Well i am using LG G3 right now. But kinda attracting towards the design of xperia z2. Since u have used both phones..can u please explain that on which areas the z2 is better and on which areas lg g3 is better? Thanks
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zainqaiser said:
Well i am using LG G3 right now. But kinda attracting towards the design of xperia z2. Since u have used both phones..can u please explain that on which areas the z2 is better and on which areas lg g3 is better? Thanks
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I prefer the design of the G3 to the Z2.
Its only my personal opinion but I find the G3 to be laggy and the frame rate during animations to be low. My G3 also overheated and I had to get a replacement. I think the software and hardware is buggy. I believe the S801 is not up to producing the QHD display and it needs the power of an S805. After 2 weeks of use I returned my G3.
The Z2 uses almost the same GPU and CPU as the G3 (2.3Ghz Vs 2.5Ghz CPU same GPU) but only has to render 1080 so is faster and smoother. The G3 also thermal throttled a lot in my experience which made the performance worse.Battery life is also better on the Z2.
I should say ive only been using the Z2 for a week so problems may come later.
Batfink33 said:
I prefer the design of the G3 to the Z2.
Its only my personal opinion but I find the G3 to be laggy and the frame rate during animations to be low. My G3 also overheated and I had to get a replacement. I think the software and hardware is buggy. I believe the S801 is not up to producing the QHD display and it needs the power of an S805. After 2 weeks of use I returned my G3.
The Z2 uses almost the same GPU and CPU as the G3 (2.3Ghz Vs 2.5Ghz CPU same GPU) but only has to render 1080 so is faster and smoother. The G3 also thermal throttled a lot in my experience which made the performance worse.Battery life is also better on the Z2.
I should say ive only been using the Z2 for a week so problems may come later.
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Thanks a lot for a detailed reply. I have heard that xperia z3 is also just around the corner. So what do u think..wait for the z3 or go with the z2? Or just keep lg g3?
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zainqaiser said:
Thanks a lot for a detailed reply. I have heard that xperia z3 is also just around the corner. So what do u think..wait for the z3 or go with the z2? Or just keep lg g3?
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In the end its personal choice, the phone I might love you might hate.
The G3 might get great software updates, it might not. The Note 4 and Nexus 6 will probably be released in a few months also and I'm sure they will be great also.Its really up to you.
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In the end its personal choice, the phone I might love you might hate.
The G3 might get great software updates, it might not. The Note 4 and Nexus 6 will probably be released in a few months also and I'm sure they will be great also.Its really up to you.
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Thanks a lot man. I guess I'll wait another couple of months to see what's new in stores.
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Read my full review here, then decide - https://www.dropbox.com/s/mpxhmrbqc7dy6nk/Xperia Z2 FULL Review.txt
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Read my full review here, then decide - https://www.dropbox.com/s/mpxhmrbqc7dy6nk/Xperia Z2 FULL Review.txt
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I have very similar RGB values to yours and everyday I look at the display and think WOW its so crisp and white. Love it!
Batfink33 said:
I have very similar RGB values to yours and everyday I look at the display and think WOW its so crisp and white. Love it!
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Lol. Yes. Works good! I'm on CM now tho. And everything is smooth sailing.
(Hot) & Sexy Phone
Hello,
Its been around 2 Months with this phone,
I am a die hard fan of Sony.
My feedback on this phone is....
-> Its amazingly Fast
-> Battery lasts for around 1.5 days of very heavy usage.
-> Sound Quality from Speakers - Not much loud - Not much low. - 50% 50%
-> Camera - Most of the time it produces great images, but sometimes I fail to understand what went wrong.
-> Screen is gorgeous, can't take my eyes away.
-> Overall design of the phone is - as usual - Fantastic, very sexy look.
I have only 2 problem with this phone.
-> Outside in the sun, Camera shuts off even while taking normal snaps - Heating Problem
-> Extra sensitive screen, it records touch of almost everything, although its nice but sometimes it creates problems.
Do any one compare Sony Xperia Z2 & Samsung Galaxy S5 G900F ?
My last 3 phones were the Note 3, Find7a, and Z2. I gave the Note3 to the wife, sold the Find7a, and rock the Z2. I am a fan of >5.5" screens so I'm sacrificing a little with the Z2 there but it has enough of the "complete package" for me. There is no perfect phone on the market imo currently. I'd like a 5.7" waterproof Nexus with a microSD card but they don't make those soo...
You want a honest reply ?
Okay. The phone is great indeed!
Although the speakerphone is low. Microphone is low too. I have to shout when I send voice messages thru WhatsApp.
Just buy
An Honest reply : this phone is cursed! always stuck at my hand wherever i go. I cant seem to let it go. It's a curse! save yourself! I cant divert my eyes! Help Me!... arggghhhh!!
seriously, this phone is amazing, battery life? I'm not constantly worries about charging anymore. I can play ingress for 3-4 hours and still got juice left. RECOMMENDED
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This year I've owned the Nexus5, LG G3, M8 and the Z2. I would say for best all round performance and features the Z2 is the best flagship. The M8 is a close second but it has a poor camera. The Z2 is smooth and fast, has a good large long lasting battery, a good camera and a great adjustable crisp display.There is overheating when using the 4k video recording after around 10-20min but not in normal use for me. Its not perfect but its the best I've used this year.
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The sensitive touch screen bug is sorted in the new firmware.
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As an HTC Fanboy who has also been able to use all of these mention phones, as well as the OnePlus One, iPhone 5S and Galaxy S5 (I work in telecommunications so i didn't own all of these phones, but I did get to use them all for at least 3 weeks) i have to agree with this statement.
Here's what Ive discovered about both the Z2 and M8: Both phones can be argued to be the best phones. Having 2 kids and taking most my pictures both in doors and poor lighting, I actually prefer the faster shutter speed of the HTC M8. I don't take macro shots of flowers, however I know many people do this as well as landscapes. (also in HTCs favor is the much much bigger development communitry) But that's beside the point. The M8 and Z2 are the 2 best phones available at the moment and then there is a HUGE, disparaging drop off between these 2 phones and the 3rd and 4th best phones (the OnePlus and LG G3).
So what sets these 2 phones apart from the rest of the 800 class snapdragon phones? Software. Sony, HTC and Motorola (but they don't count because technically their flagship is midrange) are so far a head of the competition that i have to say i have never seen such a disparity between what I consider tier 1 and tier 2 phones.
But I think the Z2 is the phone of the year over the M8 by just a hair, because despite the M8 having the better software of the 2, Sony's is good enough that most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Actually most people wouldn't appreciate the snappiness of the M8. So the Z2 wins out in my opinion due to the superior hardware with the extra RAM, MPs, dedicated camera button, etc. The first 2 devices I tried this year were the Z2 and M8. And now at the end of the Spring releases, here I am back with the Z2 as my personal phone and the M8 as my work phone. And I couldn't be happier. I can tell you I definitely appreciate the Z2 and M8 so very much more now that I've used the S5, 5s, OnePlus, and G3.
You'd be crazy not to take either of these phones. But if you have a choice, grab the Z2. It's the more exciting of the 2.
Really want to get this phone but camera overheat issue in sunlight is worrying me a little.
If it overheats only while recording 4K videos then i don't care, but if it does so while taking Auto mode 8MP snaps as well then it is a big turn off.
nkgangew said:
As an HTC Fanboy who has also been able to use all of these mention phones, as well as the OnePlus One, iPhone 5S and Galaxy S5 (I work in telecommunications so i didn't own all of these phones, but I did get to use them all for at least 3 weeks) i have to agree with this statement.
Here's what Ive discovered about both the Z2 and M8: Both phones can be argued to be the best phones. Having 2 kids and taking most my pictures both in doors and poor lighting, I actually prefer the faster shutter speed of the HTC M8. I don't take macro shots of flowers, however I know many people do this as well as landscapes. (also in HTCs favor is the much much bigger development communitry) But that's beside the point. The M8 and Z2 are the 2 best phones available at the moment and then there is a HUGE, disparaging drop off between these 2 phones and the 3rd and 4th best phones (the OnePlus and LG G3).
So what sets these 2 phones apart from the rest of the 800 class snapdragon phones? Software. Sony, HTC and Motorola (but they don't count because technically their flagship is midrange) are so far a head of the competition that i have to say i have never seen such a disparity between what I consider tier 1 and tier 2 phones.
But I think the Z2 is the phone of the year over the M8 by just a hair, because despite the M8 having the better software of the 2, Sony's is good enough that most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Actually most people wouldn't appreciate the snappiness of the M8. So the Z2 wins out in my opinion due to the superior hardware with the extra RAM, MPs, dedicated camera button, etc. The first 2 devices I tried this year were the Z2 and M8. And now at the end of the Spring releases, here I am back with the Z2 as my personal phone and the M8 as my work phone. And I couldn't be happier. I can tell you I definitely appreciate the Z2 and M8 so very much more now that I've used the S5, 5s, OnePlus, and G3.
You'd be crazy not to take either of these phones. But if you have a choice, grab the Z2. It's the more exciting of the 2.
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Agreed, the Z2 and M8 aren't perfect but they're the best phones of the year so far by quite a long way.
As not fanboy but realist I can say after many sony phones (j70, z5, z7, xperia: S, Z, Z1, Z Ultra) z2 is really good phone with premium finish and ultra stability ...stereo speakers, lovely display, amazing headphone hole and pretty good camera make this phone almost perfect ...paired with smartwatch sw2 and few other things (sbh20 sbh80 mbh10 qed uplay and kef m200) and connected to smart house system z2 can become part of you ...not as before with other phones I can't say nothing bad about it

Mi 5 bend test fail :(

Unfortunately, we have some really bad news here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2jav7UdQtE
Disappointing. No other words. :crying:
tnttrx said:
Unfortunately, we have some really bad news here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2jav7UdQtE
Disappointing. No other words. :crying:
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Just don't put it into the back pocket. :laugh:
or lose weight.
yeah, I know.
but, the fact is that so far I had no worries about putting my phone in the back pocket, and this crashing was way too easy.
many other phones "refused" to break in the same test. seems it's not impossible to make phone stronger.
Now we know why it's so light...
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Unfortunately, we have some really bad news here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2jav7UdQtE
Disappointing. No other words. :crying:
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It is a Glass body phone! What did you expect! Seriously.
Edit: The Nexus 6P costs twice as much and fails just as bad. Keep that in mind before you judge.
Well, seriously, I expected it would be similar to some other Glass body phones which are lower class and even cheaper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfeLiTXOOec
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Well, seriously, I expected it would be similar to some other Glass body phones which are lower class and even cheaper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfeLiTXOOec
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The OnePlus X has an SD 801 inside and less fancy hardware. Could be that OnePlus saved money on the hardware and innovation part.
But then again, if you just wanted to say:There is no perfect phone and certainly not a cheap perfect phone. Than yeah, that is right.
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Just because it fits this topic perfectly:
The same guy who made the MI5 video called the 600€ Nexus 6P a joke.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3cWVdLqXCg
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Well, seriously, I expected it would be similar to some other Glass body phones which are lower class and even cheaper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfeLiTXOOec
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Exactly you would have expected the Mi5 to fair better.
Instead it broke easier than a biscuit.
silverblack said:
Exactly you would have expected the Mi5 to fair better.
Instead it broke easier than a biscuit.
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but it doesn't break in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3F5gRvNJKQ
Kulwinder Singh said:
but it doesn't break in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3F5gRvNJKQ
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No but it does in this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2jav7UdQtE like a biscuit.
Well, Mi5 has only one aluminium frame. They had to sacrifice rigidity of the phone to make it cheaper.
The phone has top components, though, so I think it's still one of the best Android phones (if not the best) in its price range.
Get a sleek looking case and you're fine. Since i live in Myanmar i payed the same price for it as they cost in China. So i have to handle it more careful then normal. Like a Chinese vase?
If you like rugged, get the Redmi Note 3 snapdragon. Fast, though and heavy.
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The OnePlus X has an SD 801 inside and less fancy hardware. Could be that OnePlus saved money on the hardware and innovation part.
But then again, if you just wanted to say:There is no perfect phone and certainly not a cheap perfect phone. Than yeah, that is right.
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Just because it fits this topic perfectly:
The same guy who made the MI5 video called the 600€ Nexus 6P a joke.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3cWVdLqXCg
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so, here we are again...
this time, phone has SD 820 and even more fancy hardware, so OnePlus did not save money on the hardware and innovation part.
also, phone is in the same price range as Mi5, and in europe it's even cheaper (+official support).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PZ8W_g6Vvk
it seems that phone really does not have to break as a cracker, after all.
be careful with your Mi5.
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so, here we are again...
this time, phone has SD 820 and even more fancy hardware, so OnePlus did not save money on the hardware and innovation part.
also, phone is in the same price range as Mi5, and in europe it's even cheaper (+official support).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PZ8W_g6Vvk
it seems that phone really does not have to break as a cracker, after all.
be careful with your Mi5.
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And where is One Plus now? SD 820 and more expensive than the Mi5.
The time when one plus was a flagship killer are long gone. One Plus right now is too expensive to be budget, and too bad to be premium.
The difference is that the Mi5 is true budget, compared to the OP3.
What One Plus released now with the OP3 is: either go for budget SD 820 -> Mi5 or spend 50 to 100 USD more and get a real flagship over the OP3... don't bring one plus on board after the current release.
Don't live in the past, the OP1 is long gone and old.
Yet if you want to compare you may also compare stuff to the Nokia 3210, that's a "bend proof phone" ... yes I am kidding. Don't live in the past.
thx for clarifying.
I would like to give you +20 Experience and +5 Prestige for that, but I'm struggling to find those options on this not-so-advanced forum.
anyways, as far as I can see, this is present:
Mi5 vs OP3 - one breaks, another doesn't
so, there's absolutely no need to live in the past for anybody.
tnttrx said:
thx for clarifying.
I would like to give you +20 Experience and +5 Prestige for that, but I'm struggling to find those options on this not-so-advanced forum.
anyways, as far as I can see, this is present:
Mi5 vs OP3 - one breaks, another doesn't
so, there's absolutely no need to live in the past for anybody.
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Whats the point here? Mi5 failed, ok so what? (we can´t have all)
buy an OP3 and go to the right thread? There must be a "strong OP3 bend test" thread.
tnttrx said:
thx for clarifying.
I would like to give you +20 Experience and +5 Prestige for that, but I'm struggling to find those options on this not-so-advanced forum.
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Just hit the thanks button, no problem at all..
And neither the Nexus 6P, nor the Mi5, nor the OP3 break under daily use.

Should I buy G5? Opinions please :)

Hello guys. I am reading all over the forums about this phone so I've got a few questions...
1. Should I buy it? I enjoy the custom skin the LG has and I'm coming from G FLex 2 (which is dead now btw).
2. When it comes to rooting.. I read that there is root for H850 variant, but how about H860N?
3. Share your experience please .
Thank you guys. Love.
H850 user here. I recently bought this phone and all i can tell is that is awesome. It's 200€ cheaper than most of the competitor flagships so imo is value for money. It's super fast, great photographs and if the development would be close to D855(G3) that i used to own i will be very pleased. Do not trust the guys in reviews saying that it has design and construction flaws. I found it to be very solid, the "chin" fits perfectly without gaps (at least to my device) and i like the G5 design, feels premium and not so fragile like S7 for example. It is a great device overall and i don't think u will regret if u buy it. Also if you decide to keep it stock you will always have superfast hotfixes and the future Android versions for about 2 years. Imagine that when i first connected my device to the internet it took me about an hour of updates and is only a 6 mo device. I am not an LG fanboy, above is just my experience since i am an H850 owner.
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H850 user here. I recently bought this phone and all i can tell is that is awesome. It's 200€ cheaper than most of the competitor flagships so imo is value for money. It's super fast, great photographs and if the development would be close to D855(G3) that i used to own i will be very pleased. Do not trust the guys in reviews saying that it has design and construction flaws. I found it to be very solid, the "chin" fits perfectly without gaps (at least to my device) and i like the G5 design, feels premium and not so fragile like S7 for example. It is a great device overall and i don't think u will regret if u buy it. Also if you decide to keep it stock you will always have superfast hotfixes and the future Android versions for about 2 years. Imagine that when i first connected my device to the internet it took me about an hour of updates and is only a 6 mo device. I am not an LG fanboy, above is just my experience since i am an H850 owner.
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Sorry to interrupt the OP, how is your experience about outdoor visibility? Is the screen bright enough? Does the phone overheat when used under direct sunlight with brightness set to high levels? Does the "daylight mode" (which is supposed to kick in and drammatically increase brightness beyond default limits under bright sunlight) work reliably for you? I've seen many people complaining about this feature turning on and back off intermittently.
jimmmysil said:
H850 user here. I recently bought this phone and all i can tell is that is awesome. It's 200€ cheaper than most of the competitor flagships so imo is value for money. It's super fast, great photographs and if the development would be close to D855(G3) that i used to own i will be very pleased. Do not trust the guys in reviews saying that it has design and construction flaws. I found it to be very solid, the "chin" fits perfectly without gaps (at least to my device) and i like the G5 design, feels premium and not so fragile like S7 for example. It is a great device overall and i don't think u will regret if u buy it. Also if you decide to keep it stock you will always have superfast hotfixes and the future Android versions for about 2 years. Imagine that when i first connected my device to the internet it took me about an hour of updates and is only a 6 mo device. I am not an LG fanboy, above is just my experience since i am an H850 owner.
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Thank you! I was reading a lot of reviews and well... I like what LG is doing.
I do really hope that the construction is solid , like on the pictures, and I saw what the phone can do, so basically I think I'll have it.
The only question now is what variant...
Anyone with H860N variant? Thx.
And @Mstniy , no problem .
Mstniy said:
Sorry to interrupt the OP, how is your experience about outdoor visibility? Is the screen bright enough? Does the phone overheat when used under direct sunlight with brightness set to high levels? Does the "daylight mode" (which is supposed to kick in and drammatically increase brightness beyond default limits under bright sunlight) work reliably for you? I've seen many people complaining about this feature turning on and back off intermittently.
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I have no drouble at all with outdoor visibility. The screen brightness kick works great. Sometimes also works with "always on" but most of the times is hard to see Always on under direct sunlight. As for the overheating i have no issues at all no overheating or at least i haven't noticed such an issue.
Hi. I should think twice before buying this phone.
I had my G5 in 3 months before sending it in for warrenty issues.
Got it back with nothing done because moist on motherboard coming from low, ie from the switching area. I didnt had the phone in rain at all.
Not pleased with LG handling!
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When buying an LG G5 you get :
- A removable battery (I bought a secondary battery).
- An IR Blaster (Awesome!).
- A super smartphone that can take awesome shots !
- A premium design.
- A smartphone with convenient screen.
- Quick Charge 3.0 (I bought a QC 3.0 charger) .
- Well, it runs everything flawlessly, very fast !
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drmilosh said:
Thank you! I was reading a lot of reviews and well... I like what LG is doing.
I do really hope that the construction is solid , like on the pictures, and I saw what the phone can do, so basically I think I'll have it.
The only question now is what variant...
Anyone with H860N variant? Thx.
And @Mstniy , no problem .
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DO NOT BUT THE H860 VARIANT ! I don't know why it's stucked on the April security patch, we can't root it (bootloader locked), and I did not achieve to install a newer KDZ using LGUP. I sold mine and bought a H850 variant !
aladin6 said:
DO NOT BUT THE H860 VARIANT ! I don't know why it's stucked on the April security patch, we can't root it (bootloader locked), and I did not achieve to install a newer KDZ using LGUP. I sold mine and bought a H850 variant !
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Interesting... Alright, thank you for your feedback .
I was very nervous accepting a G5 as a replacement from Sprint for my G4, of which I had 3 with bootloop issues. So far, it's run just fine. I agree with aladin6 with all the positives.
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Oil painting photos !!

Hi there, I've taken quite a few photos with the mate 10 pro. All on automatic settings, but I'm a bit disappointed with the results... when you zoom in a bit (to peoples faces) they look like oil paintings...
I'm on UK C782 ver .124. bought from cpw.
I'm not interested in fannying about with different modes... I'm talking about taking a picture of your kids on auto promptly... they never stand still for more than a couple of seconds, so you don't have time to set exposure, and iso etc etc !!!!
Haven't had an update in months, so am wondering if there are any updates (that might be impending) that improve the camera a bit... was really expecting better from a dual camera Leica setup...
Hoping for some good news
falsivas said:
Hi there, I've taken quite a few photos with the mate 10 pro. All on automatic settings, but I'm a bit disappointed with the results... when you zoom in a bit (to peoples faces) they look like oil paintings...
I'm on UK C782 ver .124. bought from cpw.
I'm not interested in fannying about with different modes... I'm talking about taking a picture of your kids on auto promptly... they never stand still for more than a couple of seconds, so you don't have time to set exposure, and iso etc etc !!!!
Haven't had an update in months, so am wondering if there are any updates (that might be impending) that improve the camera a bit... was really expecting better from a dual camera Leica setup...
Hoping for some good news
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I had this problem with my Mate 10 pro, the only way I managed to solve this issue was to replace the phone with a Pixel 2 Xl!
You might now be thinking "ok smart arse, why are you trolling the M10P threads?"
As much as i like the Pixel, i'm still kinda interested in the M10P and was hoping a firmware update has sorted the oil paintings. Clearly not hence your thread.
One thing you could try is installing the pixel camera apk, its on the forum section somewhere. Guess I'll still with the pixel!
You can enable RAW images. It will take a JPEG and a DNG file with each click. The DNG is unprocessed, so it doesn't have that aggressive NR, but it takes an extra step to get sharable pictures out of it.
Wish NR level is a setting, but unfortunately, it is not. However, it is completely a software issue, so Huawei theoretically can fix it if they feel that their post processing isn't very good. I just doubt that they will. On the other hand, I've seen hacked APKs for the Moto camera app that allowed changes to NR, so that might be a solution in the future.
I do believe this is a software issue... I think the hardware is capable of much more but Huawei has smoothed things way too aggressively... I'm on pretty old firmware (but that's a moan for another thread) so was wondering if any of the guys with newer firmware noticed any improvements...
I have the same issue on my Mate 10 Pro I was literally shocked because I had the Mate 9 before. the camera of the Mate 9 is better than this Version. i really use snapchat a lot and you just can't get any usable pictures with it. even with the main camera the photos Look blurry and Oily? i am very unsatisfied i hope it will get fixed soon ... greetings from Germany
use 'open camera' with the jpeg quality set to highest
mwatson said:
I had this problem with my Mate 10 pro, the only way I managed to solve this issue was to replace the phone with a Pixel 2 Xl!
You might now be thinking "ok smart arse, why are you trolling the M10P threads?"
As much as i like the Pixel, i'm still kinda interested in the M10P and was hoping a firmware update has sorted the oil paintings. Clearly not hence your thread.
One thing you could try is installing the pixel camera apk, its on the forum section somewhere. Guess I'll still with the pixel!
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Strange that you should say that...because I bought a pixel XL 2 - because was frustrated by low quality photos and abysmal updates from Huawei (still running Nov security patch ffs)...
Took similar photos with M10Pro and Pixel XL 2, and Pixel photos blew Mate 10's out of the water.. despite being 12MP as opposed to the 20MP of the M10Pro...
But... I do like the feel of the M10Pro, it's a truly gorgeous device..(feels good in the hand !!, ladies... to quote Flossy Carter)... just wish the camera was that bit better... a dude suggested installing open camera... might give that a whirr... but it's a bit naff that you've got to install a 3rd party camera app coz the supplied one is [email protected]
tmzbeme said:
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hmm.. so much for its "AI" assisted camera. Maybe AI stands for "Artist's Impression!"
so many pics look like an oil painting!
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falsivas said:
Strange that you should say that...because I bought a pixel XL 2 - because was frustrated by low quality photos and abysmal updates from Huawei (still running Nov security patch ffs)...
Took similar photos with M10Pro and Pixel XL 2, and Pixel photos blew Mate 10's out of the water.. despite being 12MP as opposed to the 20MP of the M10Pro...
But... I do like the feel of the M10Pro, it's a truly gorgeous device..(feels good in the hand !!, ladies... to quote Flossy Carter)... just wish the camera was that bit better... a dude suggested installing open camera... might give that a whirr... but it's a bit naff that you've got to install a 3rd party camera app coz the supplied one is [email protected]
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I hear ya, It is a great device, has everything I was looking for, IR blaster, Battery, premium build (feels good in the hand, ladies ) but the camera and the updates just killed it for me. Thought I'd dip back in and see how things are going. I recon Huawei will drop this phone now. all hands on the P20 pump!
mwatson said:
hmm.. so much for its "AI" assisted camera. Maybe AI stands for "Artist's Impression!"
so many pics look like an oil painting!
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I hear ya, It is a great device, has everything I was looking for, IR blaster, Battery, premium build (feels good in the hand, ladies ) but the camera and the updates just killed it for me. Thought I'd dip back in and see how things are going. I recon Huawei will drop this phone now. all hands on the P20 pump!
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It's a bummer, do like the phone, but Huawei have a lot to learn from the big boys... I've had one update in 3 months... utter sh!te from Huawei... for all I know the latest firmware could have the best camera on earth.... but until Huawei push it out at their utter glacial pace, it might as well be on the far side of the moon... Hardware isn't everything, without decent software....
thats why now i dont believe in dxo anymore . 97 score ? really ?
falsivas said:
It's a bummer, do like the phone, but Huawei have a lot to learn from the big boys... I've had one update in 3 months... utter sh!te from Huawei... for all I know the latest firmware could have the best camera on earth.... but until Huawei push it out at their utter glacial pace, it might as well be on the far side of the moon... Hardware isn't everything, without decent software....
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I received two updates in the first five weeks of ownership, so can't complain about that aspect. Different regions are getting different tiers of updates, so I'm wondering whether your local carriers have anything to do with the slow availability of updates (i.e., I'm wondering if Huawei is consulting with UK carriers to decide on what's included in the C782 firmware - I'm on C636 and currently up to version 131).
I hadn't really noticed any issues with photos until I came across your thread, and now see that if I zoom right in, I can see the effects overly-aggressive smoothing. This doesn't really pose a problem for me as I've never thought of a mobile 'phone camera as being good for anything more than "happy snaps," but I can understand that some people want better performance (especially given that this is a major selling point of the Mate 10).
I agree that it's very likely only a software issue; hopefully Huawei will allow their developers to wrest themselves away from the View 10 (which seems to be getting the lion's share of software attention at the moment) for long enough to give us a tangible update for the Mate 10.
So with a pixel 2 when a photo is zoomed in, there is no grainy effect either ? If its a choice between grainy and oil painting, for me both are bad and not a reason to specifically complain about Mate 10.
falsivas said:
It's a bummer, do like the phone, but Huawei have a lot to learn from the big boys... I've had one update in 3 months... utter sh!te from Huawei... for all I know the latest firmware could have the best camera on earth.... but until Huawei push it out at their utter glacial pace, it might as well be on the far side of the moon... Hardware isn't everything, without decent software....
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Totally agree, talking of updates, my Honor 8 is stuck on August 2017 security patch. Neither the staff on phones or twitter have an answer as to wether i'll get an update or what the latest version is.
So glad I have the P2XL. Maybe Huawei will get their act together for the M11?!
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people don't look like look like oil pantings with pics taken on my Pixel
mwatson said:
Totally agree, talking of updates, my Honor 8 is stuck on August 2017 security patch. Neither the staff on phones or twitter have an answer as to wether i'll get an update or what the latest version is.
So glad I have the P2XL. Maybe Huawei will get their act together for the M11?!
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people don't look like look like oil pantings with pics taken on my Pixel
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Why do you expect a mid 2016 Huawei's budget priced Honor phone to update security patches every month ?
Android should get their act together first before expecting skinned roms to be easy and frequent as stock android. From a global scale each country has their own roms and every time Android comes with up some minor patch (likley not even an important patch) Huawei and Honor all have to deliver update to their 50+ phone models in 80 different countries ? From a realistic view don't expect any change in update frequency from Huawei until Android from the core has changed first.
My mate 10 being flagship has received its 3rd update since December and i am more than happy. Realistically i know after 1 year the updates gets less frequent and when close to release of the Mate 12 , i don't expect any more than once or twice a year update.
warea said:
Why do you expect a mid 2016 Huawei's budget priced Honor phone to update security patches every month ?
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where did I say every month? I do expect patches as Honor sold the phone on the understanding it would receive updates for two years. I take your point though. There is something odd going on with Huawei/Honor distribution. Some like yourself seem to be getting frequent updates. Others like myself are being disappointed. Mine were SIM free so should avoid carrier delays.
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So with a pixel 2 when a photo is zoomed in, there is no grainy effect either ? If its a choice between grainy and oil painting, for me both are bad and not a reason to specifically complain about Mate 10.
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Think you missed the point... Zoom into the pixel 2 xl photos and they're not grainy. Or over processed. They just look good.. Which I was hoping the 20Mp snapper on the m10pro would achieve also considering the quality of the optics
falsivas said:
Think you missed the point... Zoom into the pixel 2 xl photos and they're not grainy. Or over processed. They just look good.. Which I was hoping the 20Mp snapper on the m10pro would achieve also considering the quality of the optics
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As you said before for me is simply a software issue, I hope at list I had a p9 plus before and the photos did't have this watercolor effect when you zoom
Sounds like beauty mode. Sure it's turned off?
this thread is about photo quality and i don't see a single photo here, proof baby proof
tboy2000 said:
Sounds like beauty mode. Sure it's turned off?
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Can't find any beauty settings for rear camera...(have found them on the front facing one and they make a serious difference (smoothing out even my mug))... where is the beauty setting on the rear camera ?

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