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Hey guys...so i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and its now in pieces (a heavy chair fell on it) but amex is going to refund me the $499 that i paid. I want to know if i should get a transformer prime or the iPad2.
I don't need reasons for the iPad2...just for this one.
Are the wifi problems still there? (i don't care about GPS)
I played around with it and i see that the lag is completely gone...is that right? (the galaxy tab had HUUUGE lag everywhere)
thanks guys!!
iPad 2? You need to keep up with your tech news son, the ipad 3 is coming out in like a week.
ezcats said:
Hey guys...so i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and its now in pieces (a heavy chair fell on it) but amex is going to refund me the $499 that i paid. I want to know if i should get a transformer prime or the iPad2.
I don't need reasons for the iPad2...just for this one.
Are the wifi problems still there? (i don't care about GPS)
I played around with it and i see that the lag is completely gone...is that right? (the galaxy tab had HUUUGE lag everywhere)
thanks guys!!
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There are hundreds of threads about this^^ Anyway. In my opinion the prime is superior to the ipad in every way. And there is no lag. You cant compare it to the galaxy tab, it has a completely new chip and brand new android 4.0 on it Depends on what you need it for but 16:10 is just better in almost all situations. Unless you like black bars when you watch movies. It has HDMI out, an SD card slot, is thinner and lighter than the ipad, has a much better display, (IPS+ is really amazing, i never had a situation so far where i couldnt read the display, USB&full size SD card on the dock. And these are only hardware advantages. We just had a thread in the general forum: If you used android for some time you cant go back to iOS.
There are/were some people with radio issues, but there only a few - my wifi is perfect and the same as on all the other devices we have around here.
There's only a few reasons to get the ipad imho.
1. you need apple
2. there is a specific app that will only be available for iOS.
[e] before you ask, yes i think the prime is also better than the iPad 3. Yes it has a higher resolution but thats not making up for all the other stuff thats missing compared to the prime. again IMHO.
Get a Prime. End of story if you want reasons look at the thread in my signature called positive transformer thread.
Buy the prime - no question
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Well it depends. to be honest. I've had the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (Its my fathers now, gave it to him as a gift), iPad 2 which essentially i paid for it but my sis uses it regularly. But i just ordered the iPad 3/HD whatever (sold the iPad 2). But it really comes down to what you really need the tablet for. Is it entertainment (Movies, Videos, not gaming though) because if those are your basic needs i'd say TFP now or wait for the TFP Infinity. But if your basic needs are gaming i'd say iPad because there are plenty of more games out there for the iPad than Prime obviously.
thanks guys...i say the ipad 2 because its $399 now (you would be stupid to buy the new one)
i actually was mainly asking about wifi issues...this is rated 3 starts on amazon and that concerns me that that many people have issues...just wanted to make sure that the wifi works and i can use netflix all around my house. (5000 sq ft)
Amazon ratings for this device is flawed. Over a month ago we had several members and people who didnt even own primes go to amazon site and give prime bad ratings. Anyone can leave a rating there. Reason was because the bootloader was locked. So it messed up its rating on Amazon and it can't be changed.
Wifi n Netflix works great for me. Still possible to run into issue with ipad2 as its wifi is not that strong also and had several issues with it. Just Google ipad2 wifi issues and pages n pages of hits will pop up on it.
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Amazon ratings for this device is flawed. Over a month ago we had several members and people who didnt even own primes go to amazon site and give prime bad ratings. Anyone can leave a rating there. Reason was because the bootloader was locked. So it messed up its rating on Amazon and it can't be changed.
Wifi n Netflix works great for me. Still possible to run into issue with ipad2 as its wifi is not that strong also and had several issues with it. Just Google ipad2 wifi issues and pages n pages of hits will pop up on it.
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thanks...this is what i needed. I know that ipad has wifi issues. Like really bad issues (it cant connect to my network)
ezcats said:
thanks...this is what i needed. I know that ipad has wifi issues. Like really bad issues (it cant connect to my network)
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If you're going to use a tablet for mostly emails, quick internet browsing and netflix/youtube/videos/movies i would honestly say wait for the new asus transformer prime infinity which fixes wifi issue with new hardware i believe and a better rf window. Also with the 1920x1200 resolution your movies are going to look great... iPad 2 at my house roughly half yours (2500 sq ft.) Gets reception everywhere, but at the size of your house you might want to buy some wifi extenders or have two routers. If your going to get the iPad 2, also why not buy a used iPad 2 off something like ebay/craigslist? since you don't want the new iPad many others do and their selling it for pretty cheap. I see on a local site such as craigslist a 64gb iPad 2 Wifi only going for as little as 500 in pretty good condition.
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If you're going to use a tablet for mostly emails, quick internet browsing and netflix/youtube/videos/movies i would honestly say wait for the new asus transformer prime infinity which fixes wifi issue with new hardware i believe and a better rf window. Also with the 1920x1200 resolution your movies are going to look great... iPad 2 at my house roughly half yours (2500 sq ft.) Gets reception everywhere, but at the size of your house you might want to buy some wifi extenders or have two routers. If your going to get the iPad 2, also why not buy a used iPad 2 off something like ebay/craigslist? since you don't want the new iPad many others do and their selling it for pretty cheap. I see on a local site such as craigslist a 64gb iPad 2 Wifi only going for as little as 500 in pretty good condition.
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i looked it up and saw that the prices are going to be about 600-800 which is too much for me....i'll stick with the prime.
ezcats said:
i looked it up and saw that the prices are going to be about 600-800 which is too much for me....i'll stick with the prime.
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If that is the case wait a few more weeks, someone posted that asus willl do some hardware changes on the current model which supposedly fixes weak wifi and the wifi-bluetooth issue
reNeglect said:
If that is the case wait a few more weeks, someone posted that asus willl do some hardware changes on the current model which supposedly fixes weak wifi and the wifi-bluetooth issue
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No hardware change.
2. As to the rumors of a hardware fix for WiFi/BT dropouts, the actual fix is just ensuring that the hardware utilized in current units is performing to tested standards. Basically to ensure this level of compliance we are replacing components within the WiFi subsystem on an as needed basis and then testing the units before shipment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1537260
bluewr said:
No hardware change.
2. As to the rumors of a hardware fix for WiFi/BT dropouts, the actual fix is just ensuring that the hardware utilized in current units is performing to tested standards. Basically to ensure this level of compliance we are replacing components within the WiFi subsystem on an as needed basis and then testing the units before shipment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1537260
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Ah thanks for the correction =) i just read it somewhere, definitely not that thread though.
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Ah thanks for the correction =) i just read it somewhere, definitely not that thread though.
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I know the thread, but that was all speculation, and it came shortly after the announcement of the TF300 and Infinity, so some people theorized that it'll be using the hardware from those instead.
ezcats said:
Hey guys...so i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and its now in pieces (a heavy chair fell on it) but amex is going to refund me the $499 that i paid. I want to know if i should get a transformer prime or the iPad2.
I don't need reasons for the iPad2...just for this one.
Are the wifi problems still there? (i don't care about GPS)
I played around with it and i see that the lag is completely gone...is that right? (the galaxy tab had HUUUGE lag everywhere)
thanks guys!!
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From a price perspective, you can get a refurbed 16GB iPad 2 directly from Apple with the same warranty that a brand new one comes with for $350. So if you are looking for the less expensive option the iPad 2 would be the way to go as it is going to be about $300 cheaper (that is if you get the dock for the Prime). If you go this route though, you have half as much storage as the Prime and have no way to expand.
Personally, I love my Prime. I don't have any problems with my wifi at all. IMO the Prime is a better tablet overall when compared to the iPad 2 or even the new iPad. The Prime will arguably provide the best user experience, mainly because of the keyboard dock.
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(that is if you get the dock for the Prime).
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Not a valid comparison. I'd say they'll save $150, then have to buy keyboard (either way).
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If you do not need to take notes effectively on screen by hand and you do not need Music production applications such as multitracking, amp and effects simulation for guitar and base then get the Prime, absolutely. Even with a few potential hardware issues the Prime is a lovely beast.
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If you do not need to take notes effectively on screen by hand and you do not need Music production applications such as multitracking, amp and effects simulation for guitar and base then get the Prime, absolutely. Even with a few potential hardware issues the Prime is a lovely beast.
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I cannot tell if you are trolling or genuinely believe this.
OP,the iPAD 3 is out, get it is you want an iPAD.
As for the prime, look into the new ones, as much as I love my current prime I will be looking at new ones when they come out.
Oh, and how exactly did you get AMEX to refund you your entire purchase price for a product that you dropped a chair on?
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Oh, and how exactly did you get AMEX to refund you your entire purchase price for a product that you dropped a chair on?
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Believe AMEX automatically puts some kind of protection on items purchased with their card. Time to read your cardholder agreement.
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Hi guys,
I went to Best Buy yesterday and got to try your Asus Prime. Wow! I was impress by the speed and the Ics. I was gonna buy it but they freshed out.
However, I did some reading on your Q&A add I see that the little ***** is giving you some trouble. Is it that bad, is it happening to everybody? I currently own a gtb 7510. Is not bad. I have a custom rom Task14 and oc'd to 1.4 with petshoots kernel. Still, the Asus is pretty impressive with its speed is very responsive and the display is beautifull.
Gtap is ok but its still not @ par with the ipad2. I think the asus prime (the one I tried) does size up to the ipad3.
So, is everyone here having issues with the ATP?
Thank you.
Edit- I'm asking all this because I'm still on time to return my gtab.
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welll for me my Asus TF Prime been good do far. Had it for about 3 weeks.
I'm in the UK btw.
Everything is working and running smoothly on this tablet. No crashes whatsoever.
I guess it depends are lucky you are. For me I am lucky i have a 100% perfect Tablet.
But then every product I have brought by far has been good to me apart from the dell streak 5 which lasting for 2 monthes the screen suddenly broke!
I say go ahead buy this tablet, You won't regret it. Did I mention that this tablet looks sexy too!
It does look sexy!
It sure runs everything you throw at it.
I got 1080p .mkv files to play which I couldn't on my first Transformer.
It runs my playstation games great too (emu)
Wireless gamepad (BT) on the go. I am using the ps3 pad.
I do use onlive on my tablet and it is amazing.
Free splashscreen software which I stream my pc desktop to my Prime at times. Can play CS:S on it lol
web surfing is fine by far. No hipcups.
Incredible super IPS+. Makes this look comparable to the new ipad with the brightness full & IPS+
I would use my Prime to type on here but I am currently using it to watch the Engadget podcast lol
Using the keyboard dock is nice. typing won't be as good as what you get on your keyboard but will pass. the batt is amazing. Surfing the net, checking my email, movie watching (1-2) will last me a whole day. when I am playing games and watching movies (2-3), listening to music it will last about 5-6 hours for me. ALL THESE NOT DOCKING THE TABLET INTO THE KEYBOARD DOCK.
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It does look sexy!
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I shade one of the first batches as I got it a couple days before launch day(game stop) and I haven't had any problems with it at all, the new batches will have almost none of the reported problems except GPS but I love it, its great for browsing and movies
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cordell507 said:
I shade one of the first batches as I got it a couple days before launch day(game stop) and I haven't had any problems with it at all, the new batches will have almost none of the reported problems except GPS but I love it, its great for browsing and movies
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Talking about GPS . I havnt use it and never checked lol I am gonig to check see if mine is ok
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Talking about GPS . I havnt use it and never checked lol I am gonig to check see if mine is ok
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Please let us know how it's working.
paleman27 said:
Please let us know how it's working.
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Hi
Yes working with no problems on my device.
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I got mine 1 week ago in Germany, got a C20 serial, and it works perfectly, the GPS is not the best one i have used but does works. Locks relative fast to 10 sat's with no wifi.
Wifi is fast, i get all my 32mb internet speed while testing with Speedtest.net, Bluetooth works wonders.
While using BT a2dp and wifi my internet does get slow but the connection never drops.
Screen quality is amazing and using EZOverclock increased the Performance speed to 1.6ghz making video and gaming experience really good.
I'm very happy with my transformer, I'd buy it again without even thinking.
Edit: video and gaming was perfect even before OC, i just wanted the extra power ^^
It has been a great experience for me. I have no problems with my device. It has nice feel about it and your hands will seldom get tired of holding it with extended use. The battery just keeps going and going.
Mine has also been great and is an early one. Everything works fine and even got gps locks the one time I tested it, haven't needed it since so it has been off for months. Wifi is fine on it so have absolutely no complaints, I really enjoy it.
get it! lol. had my prime since 12/22 and hasn't let me down yet. been using it nonstop. I came fro IOS/Ipad to the prime. The difference in speed, power, and everything is night n day better than my Ipad. if you get one now, chances very slim to get one with issues some experienced. its more than worth it. I'm still amazed at how well mines work and how thin and light this tablet is. plus the battery lasts long as a mofo.
Get it, its a great device I'm really pleased with mine. No issues with it although this is number 3. First 2 had bright spots on the screen when using a white background so make sure u check the screen very closely right away
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I'm really pleased with my Prime. I do get the occasional browser stutter but, apart from that, performance has been fine. I would say that it seemed more reliable once I took Chrome off and re-installed Flash (but this may just be coincidence!). GPS performance is the same as for other people i.e. iffy at best!
Only complaints from me are stock browser stutter, WiFi performance drops off considerably if I use my PS3 controller via BT at the same time, and screen glare (this thing is shiny)!
So I just use another browser besides stock, and use the controller with games that don't need WiFi, or if they do, I switch to my Logitech usb controller.
I've had mine for about 3 weeks, and just had a random reboot last night. I'm completely fine with that, my iPad 2 had a few random reboots in it's time as well.
I installed an anti-glare screen, which works fine.
The keyboard dock is great..!
The only issues I've had with my tablet were caused from unstable custom ROMs like CM9 KANG and AOKP Milestone 4. I'm currently running stock and haven't had any issues. I'll be waiting until an official build of AOKP or CM9 comes to the Prime before switching back away from stock.
paleman27 said:
Hi guys,
I went to Best Buy yesterday and got to try your Asus Prime. Wow! I was impress by the speed and the Ics. I was gonna buy it but they freshed out.
However, I did some reading on your Q&A add I see that the little ***** is giving you some trouble. Is it that bad, is it happening to everybody? I currently own a gtb 7510. Is not bad. I have a custom rom Task14 and oc'd to 1.4 with petshoots kernel. Still, the Asus is pretty impressive with its speed is very responsive and the display is beautifull.
Gtap is ok but its still not @ par with the ipad2. I think the asus prime (the one I tried) does size up to the ipad3.
So, is everyone here having issues with the ATP?
Thank you.
Edit- I'm asking all this because I'm still on time to return my gtab.
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The issues with the Prime are fairly overblown.
Most people don't have a single complaint with regards to their Prime. The vast majority of people who come to XDA looking to talk about the Prime are people who are having some kind of issue they want to resolve and aren't really representative of the overall community or Prime owners.
My experience is that WiFi is just fine. Nearly as good as my Windows laptop and better than my Galaxy S2 phone. It even works well when I am streaming music to a set of Bluetooth headphones.
I have a very slight light bleed in one corner that is only noticeable on the boot screen. However compared to my Dell laptop the light bleed would probably be considered non-existent. Viewing angles, color, saturation etc are all very good.
GPS doesn't work for Navigation which is why Asus removed it from the feature list, however it works perfectly fine for location-based services like Search.
In general there is nothing to complain about. The Prime is very good product and it has basically replaced my laptop as my go-to device for web browsing, email and light office work. If you combine it with the keyboard dock it is an even more useful device and battery life is stellar when compared to any similar laptop/tablet.
I honestly believe that the Prime is one of the best and most useful tablet devices available right now. The only reason that I might want to wait on purchasing it is to see what the TF Infinity will be like. The TF Infinity should be nearly identical to the Prime, but will have a better screen and possible better GPS. It will also cost $100 more.
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The issues with the Prime are fairly
I honestly believe that the Prime is one of the best and most useful tablet devices available right now. The only reason that I might want to wait on purchasing it is to see what the TF Infinity will be like. The TF Infinity should be nearly identical to the Prime, but will have a better screen and possible better GPS. It will also cost $100 more.
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lol..
You have to remember that the people complaining are a small fraction of the total userbase.
The problem with internet ratings is that when you have a problem, you'll be dam sure to look it up and post in the appropriate forum, blog, website.. whatever.
If you have no issue, why would you bother to look for the websites?
My prime is awesome, no issues whatsoever.
I'm only here because I happen to develop some minor stuff for another device on Android and now own a prime. but I'm the small percentage saying this thing rocks.
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No matter which XDA Device thread you read, you will be scared to hell. I mean if I would have a problem with my TFP I would post here, because there are tons of competent people around here.
Never fix your buy-decision on the xda threads of the device. I was happy with the last 3-4 phones I've had, but when I check the xda forums for them it seems like I'm the only one who was happy at all
Someone benchmarked the new ipad vs TFP here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jdbtiNnZzE
The new ipad blows away TFP on 3D graphics benchmark. Nvidia better go back to the drawing board. On Browsermark and Sunspider benchmarks, the stock TFP fair OK against the new ipad. But my TFP running Virtuous Prime at 1.6Ghz beats the new ipad on Browsermark and Sunspider:
Browsermarks Benchmark (higher score is better)
new ipad: 99561
stock TFP: 100849
my TFP: 130000+ (I don't have my TFP me at work, so roughly that)
Sunspider Benchmark (less time is better)
new ipad: 1825 ms
stock TFP: 2344 ms
my TFP: ~1700 ms
Aaaaaaaaahhhhhh!
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stock prime running 1.6ghz overclock can score even higher than that. it was already known the CPU from Tegra3 smokes the A5x. The A5x edges out the gpu from prime. A5x gpu used mostly to power the screen though. most of ghost graphics benchmarks is with screen off. Anyways they both on the gpu front. we still have optimized games for tegra3, therefore our games look better and has more effects.
the a5x seems indeed to be faster,but the tegra3 has some special effects that the a5x is unable to process. unfortunally the games have to be 'tegra optimzed', and apple is has more content atm, but more and more developers take android seriously, future of android gaming will be sweet.
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stock prime running 1.6ghz overclock can score even higher than that. it was already known the CPU from Tegra3 smokes the A5x. The A5x edges out the gpu from prime. A5x gpu used mostly to power the screen though. most of ghost graphics benchmarks is with screen off. Anyways they both on the gpu front. we still have optimized games for tegra3, therefore our games look better and has more effects.
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"We" have a 2048x1536 screen and a better GPU therefore our games look better when optimized. Yes, I do own the new iPad now.
Yeah I know this horse has been beat to death by now but the new IPAD has to push 4x the pixels so to keep up with the prime it needs to be a Minimum of 4x faster. Honestly until we hit the sub 22nm, this kind of gpu will be a HUGE drain on battery for mobile usage.
I say lets go to 1080p then put a huge emphasis on lighting effects. 720p for 7inch.
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JoeyLe said:
"We" have a 2048x1536 screen and a better GPU therefore our games look better when optimized. Yes, I do own the new iPad now.
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Don't you have "your" own forums?
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benefit14snake said:
Don't you have "your" own forums?
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Sure, but I love how you people keep talking like your Prime doesn't have any problems. And how the thing is sooo much better then the iPad. U mad?
JoeyLe said:
"We" have a 2048x1536 screen and a better GPU therefore our games look better when optimized. Yes, I do own the new iPad now.
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you funny...good for you then. well you not making much use of that powerful gpu hanging around prime forums so much.
a key word you mentioned was "when" optimized. even ipad2 had only less than a handful of games optimized for it. there won't hardly be any. reason why? because apple developers make most of their content to be played on any generation device. plus my ipad1 Infinity Blade2 still looks just as good as the new Ipad one. aside from better screen and little bit more detailed. but side by side they basically look the same. that's why I never upgraded to ipad2. cause my original Ipad still played all the same content flawlessly.
on another note, what games do you have that they updated for the new resolution? I know there isn't any new Ipad optimized games yet. that won't come until that RPG infinity blade dungeons Come out.
do you have that new Mass effect game? its coming to android also and will be tegra3 optimized. that game does look cool. not sure if i want to buy it for my Ipad or just wait for android version, which will be better
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you funny...good for you then. well you not making much use of that powerful gpu hanging around prime forums so much.
a key word you mentioned was "when" optimized. even ipad2 had only less than a handful of games optimized for it. there won't hardly be any. reason why? because apple developers make most of their content to be played on any generation device. plus my ipad1 Infinity Blade2 still looks just as good as the new Ipad one. aside from better screen and little bit more detailed. but side by side they basically look the same. that's why I never upgraded to ipad2. cause my original Ipad still played all the same content flawlessly.
on another note, what games do you have that they updated for the new resolution? I know there isn't any new Ipad optimized games yet. that won't come until that RPG infinity blade dungeons Come out.
do you have that new Mass effect game? its coming to android also and will be tegra3 optimized. that game does look cool. not sure if i want to buy it for my Ipad or just wait for android version, which will be better
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Are you kidding me? The device is out for 1 day in my country and a week in others, do you think every dev magicly transforms it in a high res app? It will take some time just as with the iPhone 4.
I don't have Mass Effect yet, I will check it out tomorrow.
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Sure, but I love how you people keep talking like your Prime doesn't have any problems. And how the thing is sooo much better then the iPad. U mad?
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please, you don't even want to go there. new Ipad had more issues than prime now...lmfao. its all over the national news channels. overheating, wifi issues(wifi can't connect at all or super slow wifi speeds), LTE issues, Ipad not charging, screen tearing /graphical glitches, screen bleeding and more don't make me post all the links to those threads. I am a member of ipadforums.net also, which is the largest Ipad forum. its filled with complaint threads now. plus official apple forum is also. be grateful you got a good working one, if you did.
even the moderator on ipadforums came out and confirmed new Ipad has a bunch of issues or at least alot of bad batches out there. nothing is sweet and perfect over in apple land also.
let's leave it at that
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"We" have a 2048x1536 screen and a better GPU therefore our games look better when optimized. Yes, I do own the new iPad now.
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Your probably happy that your I pads killing your sperm too lolzz
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Are you kidding me? The device is out for 1 day in my country and a week in others, do you think every dev magicly transforms it in a high res app? It will take some time just as with the iPhone 4.
I don't have Mass Effect yet, I will check it out tomorrow.
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that's the point. only been out a week and has already had issues plastered all over every major tech site and consumer reports. plus all the television news stations here in U.S. are broadcasting the issues also. new Ipad is good but don't act like it doesn't have its share of issues also. its like I said before, no device is perfect. even the best selling tablet, Ipad, has major issues also. but instead Ipad issues are in far greater numbers than prime. then apple came out and publicly denied the issues despite proof of them.
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Your probably happy that your I pads killing your sperm too lolzz
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good one..lmfao
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you funny...good for you then. well you not making much use of that powerful gpu hanging around prime forums so much.
a key word you mentioned was "when" optimized. even ipad2 had only less than a handful of games optimized for it. there won't hardly be any. reason why? because apple developers make most of their content to be played on any generation device. plus my ipad1 Infinity Blade2 still looks just as good as the new Ipad one. aside from better screen and little bit more detailed. but side by side they basically look the same. that's why I never upgraded to ipad2. cause my original Ipad still played all the same content flawlessly.
on another note, what games do you have that they updated for the new resolution? I know there isn't any new Ipad optimized games yet. that won't come until that RPG infinity blade dungeons Come out.
do you have that new Mass effect game? its coming to android also and will be tegra3 optimized. that game does look cool. not sure if i want to buy it for my Ipad or just wait for android version, which will be better
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please, you don't even want to go there. new Ipad had more issues than prime now...lmfao. its all over the national news channels. overheating, wifi issues(wifi can't connect at all or super slow wifi speeds), LTE issues, Ipad not charging, screen tearing /graphical glitches, screen bleeding and more don't make me post all the links to those threads. I am a member of ipadforums.net also, which is the largest Ipad forum. its filled with complaint threads now. plus official apple forum is also. be grateful you got a good working one, if you did.
even the moderator on ipadforums came out and confirmed new Ipad has a bunch of issues or at least alot of bad batches out there. nothing is sweet and perfect over in apple land also.
let's leave it at that
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I have noticed it is getting a little warm when gaming, but nothing serious for me at least.
WiFi:
Next to router
iPad: 20mbps
Prime: 20mbps
1 floor down
iPad: 20mbps
Prime: 8mbps
2 floors down
iPad: 20mbps (3/4 bars)
Prime: lost signal
Yeah, really unhappy with my iPads WiFi.
Personally, I find the Prime to be plenty fast, with the only area needing significant improvement being browsing. However, I'm also of the opinion that browsing isn't being held back by the processor (or its performance in any benchmarks), but just that the ICS browser needs to be optimized. Chrome is better, but I've found it too unstable for production use.
Once the browser speed is improved, the Prime will be an overall exceptional performer. Enough so that I'm rethinking my reluctance to consider the high-res screen on the TF700--I think the Tegra 3 will be just fine there as well (although the impact on the highest-end games perhaps remains a question mark).
JoeyLe said:
I have noticed it is getting a little warm when gaming, but nothing serious for me at least.
WiFi:
Next to router
iPad: 20mbps
Prime: 20mbps
1 floor down
iPad: 20mbps
Prime: 8mbps
2 floors down
iPad: 20mbps (3/4 bars)
Prime: lost signal
Yeah, really unhappy with my iPads WiFi.
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Dude why waste your time, SERIOUSLY. All I know is my android devices sure is collecting alot of dust lately.
Phone I'll stick with android but tablet (after trying out two prime and still owning a xoom) the new Ipad gets most of my attention.
I returned the prime in favor of the new iPad...it's such a shame, but the prime was just..not ready for release. I waited a week via preorder, and received about half the left side full of light bleeding, and when docked, opening and closing didn't feel right..you could tell something was going to give, so back it went.
I noticed a side of the dock was higher than the other, it created uneven flex when opening and closing,..so I completely understand the screen cracking issue. Another preorder would of been another week of waiting, and hoping the new unit wouldn't have the same issues...it just wasn't worth it.
While I had it I also bought the new iPad, and did numerous side by side tests of different websites I actually use...I kept the one that was faster. Another benefit is the stock keyboard is actually very easy to type on, better than stock android and thumb keyboard.
I could also finally take notes via stylus much quicker than I could with the prime, and have a great app for it.
Based on what I read here, I didn't think I could send or open email attachments and download files for offline, but that's untrue. Many of the things I heard on this forum actually turned out to be untrue regarding the new iPad, or have work arounds..at least for stuff I actually use.
Anyway, very disappointed with the prime and asus for releasing it as they did. I'd love to order one again, but I won't in the quality I received it.
JoeyLe said:
I have noticed it is getting a little warm when gaming, but nothing serious for me at least.
WiFi:
Next to router
iPad: 20mbps
Prime: 20mbps
1 floor down
iPad: 20mbps
Prime: 8mbps
2 floors down
iPad: 20mbps (3/4 bars)
Prime: lost signal
Yeah, really unhappy with my iPads WiFi.
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Why don't you run a flash benchmark and get back to us....k thanks.
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Why the FOCK all these comparison threads or discussions about Ipad ?
I personally brought the Prime because of total dislike of Ios & Apple, so I don't give a flying fig what Ipad can do or what it cant, this Prime general section has more Apple/Ipad comparisons, hardware talk etc than anything Prime/Android.
I come here to read about Prime not Ios/Apple , come on chaps let it go, the majority I think have had enough of this , Take your Apple talk to an Apple forum
JoeyLe said:
Sure, but I love how you people keep talking like your Prime doesn't have any problems. And how the thing is sooo much better then the iPad. U mad?
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Funny, I didn't say anything about my prime not having problems.
Some people just have too much time to troll these forums. Usually means unemployed or unmarried. Quite frankley I could care less. If I wanted an IPAD I could buy one, in fact I could have bought about 9 with my last pay check but I much prefer my crappy useless transformer prime. Either way this thread will be shut down by tomorrow.
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I know you all are probably tired of seeing this but I didn't see this question in the first 3 pages of the prime so i decided to ask once more.
i'm really debating if i should get this one...the ipad2 the ipad3 or wait until the infinity comes out.
to me the price is the biggest concern. the ipad2 right now is selling for $360. But I believe the prime is definitely better than the ipad2 but it is $499. The new Ipad3 is also $499 for the 16gb model and has a better display. I realize that the display might not be such a big deal but it can play 1080p..can the Prime play 1080p? or just 720p? Also people are claiming that the Ipad3 gets better FPS in games due to quad core graphics. Also when the infinity comes out the price is rumored to be at $599 ..so $100 more than the current transformer. From most reviews it seems like it will be the same thing just better res so i don't know if that is worth $100 more. I will have to stay at $500 or less.
Also, people have been saying that the latest software update fixed the GPS and wifi. Can someone please confirm this? I thought this was a hardware issue with the back cover being aluminum so i'm not sure how a software update can fix this.
I've always been anti-apple so its hard for me to buy an apple product now but the price of the ipad 2 seems too good to pass up and then when i consider getting the prime i can use that $ to get the ipad3 with a better display. So i'm having a hard time talking myself out of not getting apple at the moment.
I will mostly be using the tablet to watch movies (netflix...and others so i do need codec compatibility (like .avi and such), also for work (taking notes), and for light gaming..to moderate gaming.
You can do a few things:
1) Pick up the current Prime and try it out and return it if you don't like it or experience too many issues with it
2) You can do the same thing with the new iPad and return it if you aren't satisfied.
3) Or you can wait for the Infinity and wait for reviews to trickle out and see if ASUS has addressed many of the issues that still plague some of the current Prime tablets.
From a former TFP owner, I would not suggest you to get the Prime at all. You are better of waiting for the 700 or getting the iPad. The gps and weak wifi will never be fixed. It is a design issue. Look all all the people "solving" the gps issue with aluminum foil, or beer cans, or what not.
-the Prime does not have a 1080 p display so it won't play anything back in 1080p
-the graphics are better on the iPad. The A5 already smoked the Tegra 3 in some areas and now the improved A5x is "4 times the power of Tegra 3" (maybe a stretch, you are up to verifying this yourself.) and you bet there will be more high quality games on the iPad.
-the 700 will have a higher res screen but the most important IMO is the new plastic strip on the back for wifi and gps. (which is also a proof that that messed up the TFP)
-video codec handling will be different between iOS and android (superior on android) on Android you just transfer the video to your Prime and open it with a file manager then choose the app you want to play the video with, on iOS, you have to transfer the videos to the memory of a certain app and you will be able to play the videos with that certain app.
What sort of anti Apple are you. The "I hate Apple as a company and won't buy anything from them even if it is good" or the "I hate how Apple handles their OS", etc
xGary said:
From a former TFP owner, I would not suggest you to get the Prime at all. You are better of waiting for the 700 or getting the iPad. The gps and weak wifi will never be fixed. It is a design issue. Look all all the people "solving" the gps issue with aluminum foil, or beer cans, or what not.
-the Prime does not have a 1080 p display so it won't play anything back in 1080p
-the graphics are better on the iPad. The A5 already smoked the Tegra 3 in some areas and now the improved A5x is "4 times the power of Tegra 3" (maybe a stretch, you are up to verifying this yourself.) and you bet there will be more high quality games on the iPad.
-the 700 will have a higher res screen but the most important IMO is the new plastic strip on the back for wifi and gps. (which is also a proof that that messed up the TFP)
-video codec handling will be different between iOS and android (superior on android) on Android you just transfer the video to your Prime and open it with a file manager then choose the app you want to play the video with, on iOS, you have to transfer the videos to the memory of a certain app and you will be able to play the videos with that certain app.
What sort of anti Apple are you. The "I hate Apple as a company and won't buy anything from them even if it is good" or the "I hate how Apple handles their OS", etc
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i'm more of a "i don't like apple because you don't get enough for the price" but that argument doesn't seem to apply at the moment. i did see the new acer iconia is coming out in april with the tegra 3. So i can wait another month and see if the transformer price goes down.
i don't know how you can say that tegra 3 is not better than the processor for ipad2 and not equivalent to the processor for ipad3. Where are you getting your comparisons?
i saw the following on zdnet. but note you get more texture and details with the tegra 3 in shadowgun..so the fps is lower..which makes sense. to compare as equals you would have to disable the textures and see what fps you get then.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/a5x-vs-tegra-3-benchmarked/19138
I bought my prime about 2 weeks ago brand new, was hoping for the latest serial but ended with a C10. So far NO issues at all, I don't use GPS on my tablet (never even tried it), I have a phone for that.
But wifi has been fine so far, weaker than my galaxy s2, but still useable at home and at school for me.
I use mines for eBooks, comics, movies, notetaking, and some small games. Haven't had any issues, positive experience so far
Look man. Iproducts are basically for kids and people who have no idea what theese things are supposed to be capable of in my opinion. Crippled machines. They couls be great but apple wants to squeeze every cent outa your wallet. Id rather have a pandigital novel.
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jblah said:
i'm more of a "i don't like apple because you don't get enough for the price" but that argument doesn't seem to apply at the moment. i did see the new acer iconia is coming out in april with the tegra 3. So i can wait another month and see if the transformer price goes down.
i don't know how you can say that tegra 3 is not better than the processor for ipad2 and not equivalent to the processor for ipad3. Where are you getting your comparisons?
i saw the following on zdnet. but note you get more texture and details with the tegra 3 in shadowgun..so the fps is lower..which makes sense. to compare as equals you would have to disable the textures and see what fps you get then.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/a5x-vs-tegra-3-benchmarked/19138
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ShadowGun is a different story. ShadowGun is optimized for Tegra 3 and was one of their "show off" games for Tegra. That doesn't mean that they can't replicate the same details on the A5X. But benchmarks don't matter. Im sure both processors are capable of pushing out great graphics. But the problem is which OS will push out more games that use such processing power. And you bet it is going to be on iOS.
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whodisname said:
Look man. Iproducts are basically for kids and people who have no idea what theese things are supposed to be capable of in my opinion. Crippled machines. They couls be great but apple wants to squeeze every cent outa your wallet. Id rather have a pandigital novel.
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Woah. Calm down there. I use a Android phone and an iPad. Android phones are very capable but Android tabs are a different story. I think YOU don't know what your device is capable of. Im not the one running blown up SMARTPHONE apps on my TABLET. And before you tell me that apps on Android are designed to work with higher resolutions, there is a difference between blown up smart phone apps with great resolution versus tablet apps that actually take advantage of the screen estate.
Perhaps you could educate me on what you are capable of that general consumers care about but cant do on iOS.
For watching movie, I would say a Android Tablet, the Prime or other equivalant coming out, there are various topic on the general section, you can read about the tablet coming out then.
Here is the Tegra3 tablet coming out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1522707
1. Extra storage through Micro-SD, SD card (Drag and drop)
2. Multiple media player choice each with their own codec(Dice player, MX player, Mobo Player, etc)
xGary said:
From a former TFP owner, I would not suggest you to get the Prime at all. You are better of waiting for the 700 or getting the iPad. The gps and weak wifi will never be fixed. It is a design issue. Look all all the people "solving" the gps issue with aluminum foil, or beer cans, or what not.
-the Prime does not have a 1080 p display so it won't play anything back in 1080p
-the graphics are better on the iPad. The A5 already smoked the Tegra 3 in some areas and now the improved A5x is "4 times the power of Tegra 3" (maybe a stretch, you are up to verifying this yourself.) and you bet there will be more high quality games on the iPad.
-the 700 will have a higher res screen but the most important IMO is the new plastic strip on the back for wifi and gps. (which is also a proof that that messed up the TFP)
-video codec handling will be different between iOS and android (superior on android) on Android you just transfer the video to your Prime and open it with a file manager then choose the app you want to play the video with, on iOS, you have to transfer the videos to the memory of a certain app and you will be able to play the videos with that certain app.
What sort of anti Apple are you. The "I hate Apple as a company and won't buy anything from them even if it is good" or the "I hate how Apple handles their OS", etc
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-- I'm not sure what people really plan on using GPS for? I understand it's suppose to come w/ it... but it's not like these tablets are 3g/4g data ready. So what are they planning on doing w/ GPS?
-- I think 1080p is overrated for movies. For one, when you're DL/streaming movies, it's NEVER in 1080p. If you're some how ripping off Bluerays, than yes, it may matter. But most DL movies aren't in even 1080p.
And TBH, put a 1080p and 720p TV side by side..... you will not tell the difference. I use to be an installer for Magnolia HT. And we sat there comparing the pictures with REGULAR content -- meaning video games, normal HD content from Dish/Cable -- it will not make a difference. Again 1080p only starts to make a difference if you're playing 1080p content, which in reality isn't a lot.
ratchoke99 said:
-- I'm not sure what people really plan on using GPS for? I understand it's suppose to come w/ it... but it's not like these tablets are 3g/4g data ready. So what are they planning on doing w/ GPS?
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Not sure what you mean. GPS is supposed to work with or without 3g/4g. I don't drive so sometimes when I bus/walk to places im not sure how to get there and GPS would come in handy. Heck, my campus is so big, I need gps to go to that one building in that one corner where I have to do that one exam. GPS is handy for me in many situations but the GPS on my 3 year old phone stopped working.
bluewr said:
For watching movie, I would say a Android Tablet, the Prime or other equivalant coming out, there are various topic on the general section, you can read about the tablet coming out then.
Here is the Tegra3 tablet coming out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1522707
1. Extra storage through Micro-SD, SD card (Drag and drop)
2. Multiple media player choice each with their own codec(Dice player, MX player, Mobo Player, etc)
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i think you are right. for me i need to get an android tablet. i like having the micro sd card slot for movies and play multiple codecs. Also, I would prefer to be able to connect the tablet to a TV via a hdmi and watch it. I don't think Apple allows you to do this unless you buy apple tv which cost more $. i'll wait until a few more tegra 3 tablets come out and force the transformer price to drop. i think if the transformer prime was at $450 right now i would probably get it.
If you want a boring ass tablet, definitely get the iPad 3. If not, you might as well wait for the Infinity. Or if you can't wait, if you find a TFP from your local Bestbuy...get it and buy the "buy back guarantee" that way you can retain most of the tablet's value and trade it in once the Infinity is out.
xGary said:
Not sure what you mean. GPS is supposed to work with or without 3g/4g. I don't drive so sometimes when I bus/walk to places im not sure how to get there and GPS would come in handy. Heck, my campus is so big, I need gps to go to that one building in that one corner where I have to do that one exam. GPS is handy for me in many situations but the GPS on my 3 year old phone stopped working.
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Wouldn't that require you knew where you were going? To insure you ALREADY have the latest information w/ that city? Meaning you're going to have to DL all maps for said city that you're even trying to navigate to right?
In which case your GPS would just be supplemental considering you'd have an idea and already have a map?
If you wanted to use GPS in an unknown area, I don't believe GPS will be able to just randomly DL the area information and give you an idea where you're at, other than Lon/Lat?|
Maybe I'm not understanding how GPS works that well lol. I know it can tell you where you ARE, but you still need some type of data to give you an idea of where you want to go.
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Wouldn't that require you knew where you were going? To insure you ALREADY have the latest information w/ that city? Meaning you're going to have to DL all maps for said city that you're even trying to navigate to right?
In which case your GPS would just be supplemental considering you'd have an idea and already have a map?
If you wanted to use GPS in an unknown area, I don't believe GPS will be able to just randomly DL the area information and give you an idea where you're at, other than Lon/Lat?|
Maybe I'm not understanding how GPS works that well lol. I know it can tell you where you ARE, but you still need some type of data to give you an idea of where you want to go.
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It actually depends on which Navigation app you use...there are some that don't require data usage, therefor all the maps are saved into an sd card. For example, NAVIGON doesn't require data usage.
ratchoke99 said:
Wouldn't that require you knew where you were going? To insure you ALREADY have the latest information w/ that city? Meaning you're going to have to DL all maps for said city that you're even trying to navigate to right?
In which case your GPS would just be supplemental considering you'd have an idea and already have a map?
If you wanted to use GPS in an unknown area, I don't believe GPS will be able to just randomly DL the area information and give you an idea where you're at, other than Lon/Lat?|
Maybe I'm not understanding how GPS works that well lol. I know it can tell you where you ARE, but you still need some type of data to give you an idea of where you want to go.
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There are many GPS applications that can preload maps of entire countries (IE CoPilot). You can then enter any address like 1234 Fake Street and it can give you turn by turn navigation there. So say I want to get to 1234 Fake street but the bus only takes me to 9513 Real Street, then I can use the GPS to help me get to my destination.
Honestly I was thinking of selling my TF201 and getting an iPad.....
Please don't stone me.
However after watching Google IO and all the new features for Android and Google Play I felt the strong desire to get a Nexus 7. Then after thinking about it, the only real problem I have with my Prime is the weak WiFi signal.
Did anyone send theirs in to get fixed from Asus? Did it help a lot or is it barely noticeable?
The weak wifi signal is because of the aluminum casing, they tried to boos the signal with ?software updates?
However I only use mine in my apartment, and I have pretty good reception. Running a TPtest from it was we speak and i get about 14/10 mbit
iPad is a sweet tablet, but there are many function you will lose with iOS.
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Have you considered the TF300T. I bought two: one for my son and mother. They have much better wifi and not to mention smoking GPS. I didn't see much difference in performance.
Honestly, I can't see anyone going from the Prime to iPad and being happy. The iPad is just too restrictive after experiencing openness. My husband has an iPhone and an iPad. Whenever he has to do anything other than surf the web or read ibooks, we use the Prime. When we needed navigation through NYC -- the Prime. Printing theater tickets, Prime again. When the Netflix app on our TV went out, we streamed Netflix from the Prime via HDMI.
I use my tablet at work to share notes or whiteboard drawings through a video projector. I can't count the number of times I've heard iPad owners say "Your tablet is awesome!" Priceless.
val1121 said:
Have you considered the TF300T. I bought two: one for my son and mother. They have much better wifi and not to mention smoking GPS. I didn't see much difference in performance.
Honestly, I can't see anyone going from the Prime to iPad and being happy. The iPad is just too restrictive after experiencing openness. My husband has an iPhone and an iPad. Whenever he has to do anything other than surf the web or read ibooks, we use the Prime. When we needed navigation through NYC -- the Prime. Printing theater tickets, Prime again. When the Netflix app on our TV went out, we streamed Netflix from the Prime via HDMI.
I use my tablet at work to share notes or whiteboard drawings through a video projector. I can't count the number of times I've heard iPad owners say "Your tablet is awesome!" Priceless.
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I would not expect any improvement in Wifi with an RMA unless it was really non-functional in the 1st place. They may replace the connecter pads and make adjustments based what others have reported, but the consensus is that there is not much of an improvement.
It is what it is......
GatorsUF said:
Honestly I was thinking of selling my TF201 and getting an iPad.....
Please don't stone me.
However after watching Google IO and all the new features for Android and Google Play I felt the strong desire to get a Nexus 7. Then after thinking about it, the only real problem I have with my Prime is the weak WiFi signal.
Did anyone send theirs in to get fixed from Asus? Did it help a lot or is it barely noticeable?
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There is no fix from Asus. Opening up your tablet, playing around with the internal components, slapping it back together with or without testing isn't a fix.
Thanks for the replies! I have decided I am not getting a iPad...must have been having a brain aneurism or something.
However I am considering selling it an getting either the TF300 or a Nexus7. Wifi just sucks too much...
I am also getting all sorts of random reboots, however I am on AOKP so that may be why.
This worked for me...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727725