I read a lot of reviews about this case , but not a single review that pointed out a serious problem with this case.
after being so disappointed with it, I also reviews it on amazon .
This was a waste of money !!!
I bought this case cover so I'll have some peace of mind, not fearing that my tablet would fall and break .
I put it over the tablet and it looked great , it felt like it would defiantly keep my note pro 12.2 safe .
BUT, I started noticing that the screen became less responsive to the touch , AND also the pen started to put out some deformed lines.
Around the middle of the screen, strait lines that i drew with the pen became curved , i tried to draw a box and could not get the line strait until i moved the canvas to the side of the screen.
After reading what other reviewers said , I guessed this was something to do with the plastic screen protector part of the case.
So i removed the plastic cover, the screen became more responsive to the touch as before, BUT!!! it changed nothing for the stylus accuracy.
I started putting lines all over my screen and i found out a 1\4inch dead-spot around the home button , the pen could not draw in that area , it just carved around it. This curvature was going through to some extent all the way to the middle of the screen , and was the reason for the strait lines becoming curved .
I thought that maybe it was something with the home button.
IT was Not!
The problem was the strong magnet at the back of the case, the same magnet that holds the hide-away stand in place.
as soon as i completely removed the cover , things went back to normal , and i could draw strait lines once again.
I don't know if having a constant magnetic field could permanently harm my wacom digitizer in the screen.
But since i bought the tablet for art making , it was useless if it don't have good pen accuracy.
If you Buy this Cover for the note, and plan to use it with the s-pen, then forget about it !
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHICH THIS CASE THAT HAS THIS PROBLEM????
No, you're not. Most cases have this problem. In fact I was quite surprised to find that the Samsonite flipcover I bought recently didn't interfere with the Wacom sensors.
The magnetic field doesn't harm the Wacom digitizer. The problem is just that the Wacom digitizer also uses magnetics, and two magnets don't exactly work very well together.
There is no material that can block magnetic fields, so you can't solve it with a simple strip of fabric. (Although a strip of velvet or leather tends to help somewhat) You can try to cut out the magnet.
Something to know: There are two versions of magnetic systems in covers:
> The cheap, generic solution. Which is a single, relatively strong, magnet This causes problems with Wacom digitizers. It also causes problems with the tablets shutting off on their own for no reason.
> The more high-end brands use a different system, of a long magnetic strip or line. The overall magnetic strength is identical, but it is spread out enough so as to not interfere with the digitizers and sensors. My Samsonite apparently has this. (I emailed them.)
gonene1 said:
I read a lot of reviews about this case , but not a single review that pointed out a serious problem with this case.
after being so disappointed with it, I also reviews it on amazon .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
gonene1 said:
The problem was the strong magnet at the back of the case, the same magnet that holds the hide-away stand in place.
as soon as i completely removed the cover , things went back to normal , and i could draw strait lines once again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, I asked an Amazon Q&A question about it and everyone who answered were too dumb to notice the magnet affecting the pen input. After I provided instructions to prove the problem exists, the price dropped from about $60 to $30. Man I don't get people. I am 100% sure everyone's Gumdrop has this issue, yet people are oblivious about it. Either they don't use the pen or they don't bother actually checking for the problem.
The question I asked:
http://www.amazon.com/forum/-/Tx26FDNR9NR3Y1F/ref=ask_dp_dpmw_al_hza?asin=B00IVEHYPG
After returning the Gumdrop, I bought an Otterbox and I am satisfied.
poetryrocksalot said:
The question I asked:
http://www.amazon.com/forum/-/Tx26FDNR9NR3Y1F/ref=ask_dp_dpmw_al_hza?asin=B00IVEHYPG
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The last answer you received is:
"Not sure what issues your referenceing but we have been using this case for 3 months now with no issues at all, not even with the stylist."
Ronica Gomez
Me to never has a stylist for my tablet.
very strange what ppl where saying .
I guess most of them use the stylus as a finger replacement rather then a drawing tool.
Related
This is my first review, so I hope it doesn't suck.
Both my wife and I have the Tilt 2. I decided to go with InvisibleShield while she wanted a case. After looking at all the comments here about cases not fitting, I decided to go with 2 different ones from Amazon. One fit horribly, so i wont even mention it.
She is using the Tilt2 Praetorian Slip and she loves it. Installation was a little tough as the fit is pretty precise. I suggest installing the top (screen) side first and then the bottom (keyboard). Install both with the KB extended. I have attached pics of the fit.
The only complaint I have (she thinks of it as a feature) is that the cover makes it a little more difficult to slide out the keyboard. She like it because it used to slide open in her purse (mostly because of the fact that she keeps it in an inside pocket of her purse which causes it to hit just right against crap she has in another pocket). Overall, this is a pretty nice cover. I am sure you can get it cheaper than amazon, but I had gift certificates to spend
Hope this helps!
Thanks for the review! I bought the same case a few months ago, although it was advertised as for the Verizon Touch Pro 2. I was unaware they made one for the Tilt 2. Now I won't have to worry about it falling off randomly!
thsi case probably wouldnt work with invisible shield on too huh
Doinshots said:
This is my first review, so I hope it doesn't suck.
Both my wife and I have the Tilt 2. I decided to go with InvisibleShield while she wanted a case. After looking at all the comments here about cases not fitting, I decided to go with 2 different ones from Amazon. One fit horribly, so i wont even mention it.
She is using the Tilt2 Praetorian Slip and she loves it. Installation was a little tough as the fit is pretty precise. I suggest installing the top (screen) side first and then the bottom (keyboard). Install both with the KB extended. I have attached pics of the fit.
The only complaint I have (she thinks of it as a feature) is that the cover makes it a little more difficult to slide out the keyboard. She like it because it used to slide open in her purse (mostly because of the fact that she keeps it in an inside pocket of her purse which causes it to hit just right against crap she has in another pocket). Overall, this is a pretty nice cover. I am sure you can get it cheaper than amazon, but I had gift certificates to spend
Hope this helps!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Neat.. glad yours fit. I ordered one for the Tilt2 from Amazon as well, and Boxwave sent one labeled 'Touch Pro 2'. I see yours doesn't have a cutout area for the PTT button either, do you have issues with that? My praetorian case would almost always trigger the PTT button whenever I handled the phone.
The top/screen portion of my Praetorian didn't fit right and opening and closing the top was almost impossible - even ended up ripping off the protective plastic along one side of the keyboard. (the protective plastic that is designed to be there, not the temporary stuff it whipped with) I can see just by looking at your pictures that your screen portion fits waay better than mine did.
When I contacted Boxwave about the issues, no questions asked and they sent a postage paid label for the return. I'd love to try this case again, as I did like the feel of it, but nervous about another no-fit. I went with BodyGuardz instead.. not sure I'm happy with those..
Thanks,
I´ll include it on the main thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524059
JJHiemenz said:
Neat.. glad yours fit. I ordered one for the Tilt2 from Amazon as well, and Boxwave sent one labeled 'Touch Pro 2'. I see yours doesn't have a cutout area for the PTT button either, do you have issues with that? My praetorian case would almost always trigger the PTT button whenever I handled the phone.
The top/screen portion of my Praetorian didn't fit right and opening and closing the top was almost impossible - even ended up ripping off the protective plastic along one side of the keyboard. (the protective plastic that is designed to be there, not the temporary stuff it whipped with) I can see just by looking at your pictures that your screen portion fits waay better than mine did.
When I contacted Boxwave about the issues, no questions asked and they sent a postage paid label for the return. I'd love to try this case again, as I did like the feel of it, but nervous about another no-fit. I went with BodyGuardz instead.. not sure I'm happy with those..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Man, sorry you had so many issues. The PTT button is indeed covered, but she has had no issues with it at all (hers is remapped to toggle bluetooth on and off). The fit on the screen portion is *very* tight. Took some effort to get it installed properly.
Also, mine definitely said "Tilt 2" on the packaging.
It is disappointing that it covers the PTT button. I assume your wife has abandoned that function (easily switching BT on/off)?
Thanks for posting reviews on this case -- I'm trying to decide what route to take to give my new Tilt 2 some added protection, and more importantly, cut down on the slickness/smudge magnet-ness of the shiny battery cover (which is my #1 gripe with the GSM TP2, both CDMA versions have rubberized covers which won't fit their GSM siblings due to the placement of the 3.5 mm jack).
I really wish someone made a rubberized battery cover to replace the shiny OEM one. These snap on type cases are okay, but they become a major pain as soon as you need to pop off the battery cover in order to flash a new ROM (as I do often), reset the device, or swap out memory cards. I worry trying to snap-in and pry off these cases frequently will damage the phone -- especially when it's a super snug fit. IMHO, a rubberized battery cover, along with perhaps the upper portion of this case to protect the chrome bezel from getting nicked would be an ideal solution! I may just go down to Home Depot this weekend and see if they have a spray that can rubberize plastic, then I might just buy a spare OEM battery cover and see if I can rubberize it.
sleze said:
It is disappointing that it covers the PTT button. I assume your wife has abandoned that function (easily switching BT on/off)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, the PTT button still works perfectly under the cover. Does not get accidentally pressed and is responsive when you push it.
azwildcat98 said:
Thanks for posting reviews on this case -- I'm trying to decide what route to take to give my new Tilt 2 some added protection, and more importantly, cut down on the slickness/smudge magnet-ness of the shiny battery cover (which is my #1 gripe with the GSM TP2, both CDMA versions have rubberized covers which won't fit their GSM siblings due to the placement of the 3.5 mm jack).
I really wish someone made a rubberized battery cover to replace the shiny OEM one. These snap on type cases are okay, but they become a major pain as soon as you need to pop off the battery cover in order to flash a new ROM (as I do often), reset the device, or swap out memory cards. I worry trying to snap-in and pry off these cases frequently will damage the phone -- especially when it's a super snug fit. IMHO, a rubberized battery cover, along with perhaps the upper portion of this case to protect the chrome bezel from getting nicked would be an ideal solution! I may just go down to Home Depot this weekend and see if they have a spray that can rubberize plastic, then I might just buy a spare OEM battery cover and see if I can rubberize it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds like skinning/shielding your phone with GadgetShieldz might be the way to go. The GadgetShieldz does take a little time to install but it works. The protective film on the screen is easy to install and bubble free. It makes the phone non-slippery. It would not protect the phone like a case but it does prevent scratches. When installed, it adds very little weight and dimension to the phone.
Actually, there are other protective films/shields but I only have experience with GadgetShieldZ. It might work for you.
Boxwave Praetorian Crystal Slip for Tilt 2
orb3000 said:
Thanks,
I´ll include it on the main thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524059
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just to report on this, I got one of these in the mail yesterday. So far I love it. It wasn't terribly difficult to get on. It fits very well too. My only real complaint is that it doesn't accommodate the PTT button that the Tilt 2 has right next to the volume buttons. It's not a big issue since I don't use PTT and the case doesn't prohibit using the key anyway.
Just be careful and make sure you order the one that specifically says it's for the Tilt 2. They make other models. I know they have the Praetorian on eBay but to be safe I opted to get mine directly from Boxwave. I got what I ordered too and could have used they're return policy if I needed.
Oh...I'll be happy to post pics if anyone wants but I think someone already put some up of this one a Tilt2.
azwildcat98 said:
Thanks for posting reviews on this case -- I'm trying to decide what route to take to give my new Tilt 2 some added protection, and more importantly, cut down on the slickness/smudge magnet-ness of the shiny battery cover (which is my #1 gripe with the GSM TP2, both CDMA versions have rubberized covers which won't fit their GSM siblings due to the placement of the 3.5 mm jack).
I really wish someone made a rubberized battery cover to replace the shiny OEM one. These snap on type cases are okay, but they become a major pain as soon as you need to pop off the battery cover in order to flash a new ROM (as I do often), reset the device, or swap out memory cards. I worry trying to snap-in and pry off these cases frequently will damage the phone -- especially when it's a super snug fit. IMHO, a rubberized battery cover, along with perhaps the upper portion of this case to protect the chrome bezel from getting nicked would be an ideal solution! I may just go down to Home Depot this weekend and see if they have a spray that can rubberize plastic, then I might just buy a spare OEM battery cover and see if I can rubberize it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wish I'd seen your post sooner! Home Depot and Lowe's does indeed have something like that. I'm sure lots of hardware stores do. It's called Plasti-Dip. I have a can right here You can buy it as spray-on or dip/brush-on applications. I use it on mountain bike parts and tools for extra grip. I'm not positive how well it will stick to a slick plastic surface but it is an option.
BluEyedTiger said:
Just to report on this, I got one of these in the mail yesterday. So far I love it. It wasn't terribly difficult to get on. It fits very well too. My only real complaint is that it doesn't accommodate the PTT button that the Tilt 2 has right next to the volume buttons. It's not a big issue since I don't use PTT and the case doesn't prohibit using the key anyway.
Just be careful and make sure you order the one that specifically says it's for the Tilt 2. They make other models. I know they have the Praetorian on eBay but to be safe I opted to get mine directly from Boxwave. I got what I ordered too and could have used they're return policy if I needed.
Oh...I'll be happy to post pics if anyone wants but I think someone already put some up of this one a Tilt2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey man, I'm thinking about ordering this case and I wanted to see if you still like it and how it has held up over the past month. Thanks.
BehindTheLight said:
Hey man, I'm thinking about ordering this case and I wanted to see if you still like it and how it has held up over the past month. Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I ordered one from BoxWave and I think I'm still going to shop around for something else. It seems like the Tilt2 has less options than the other variations of the Rhodium so people may just be settling for this due to "Slim Pickin's."
I like the way the gel gives more texture and grip to the phone, but I still feel uneasy because it's definitely not a snug fit. The part that covers the screen section of the phone is very flimsy and after you get it on, you want to keep checking it to make sure that it is attached; it feels like it can easily slip off at any time. This is specifically evident when you slide your screen up and tilt it. Tap the top right, or the middle section that really has no grip around the phone, and it might just pop off...
I still have it on my phone because it is the lesser of two evils, have something vs. not having something, but are there any other options for the Tilt2?
BehindTheLight said:
Hey man, I'm thinking about ordering this case and I wanted to see if you still like it and how it has held up over the past month. Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's held up quiet nice...even with as much flashing I do (have to remove the bottom piece every time). I've figured out a great way to put it back on that's really fast and easy. Some people say it's difficult to get on. I think the top piece is the hard part but I've taken it off a few times and have no issues there either. It still fits good. If I remember, next time I take it off I'll shoot some pics of how I put it on and upload them.
Learic said:
I ordered one from BoxWave and I think I'm still going to shop around for something else. It seems like the Tilt2 has less options than the other variations of the Rhodium so people may just be settling for this due to "Slim Pickin's."
I like the way the gel gives more texture and grip to the phone, but I still feel uneasy because it's definitely not a snug fit. The part that covers the screen section of the phone is very flimsy and after you get it on, you want to keep checking it to make sure that it is attached; it feels like it can easily slip off at any time. This is specifically evident when you slide your screen up and tilt it. Tap the top right, or the middle section that really has no grip around the phone, and it might just pop off...
I still have it on my phone because it is the lesser of two evils, have something vs. not having something, but are there any other options for the Tilt2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I haven't really had any trouble with mine popping off. It took a bit to get the top on right and it was a pretty snug fit too. Getting the corner edges all the way tucked under was the hardest part. I'm guessing it's a manufacturing thing. Some say it's a tight fit and other say it's loose. I will agree that the sides on the top piece are flimsy because they're not attached the the phone but if they were it would probably make matters worse by either rubbing against the bottom piece or creating too big of a gap between the two parts of the phone.
I agree there aren't many options for the Tilt 2 and I hate to say it but there probably won't be.
BluEyedTiger said:
I haven't really had any trouble with mine popping off. It took a bit to get the top on right and it was a pretty snug fit too. Getting the corner edges all the way tucked under was the hardest part. I'm guessing it's a manufacturing thing. Some say it's a tight fit and other say it's loose. I will agree that the sides on the top piece are flimsy because they're not attached the the phone but if they were it would probably make matters worse by either rubbing against the bottom piece or creating too big of a gap between the two parts of the phone.
I agree there aren't many options for the Tilt 2 and I hate to say it but there probably won't be.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If yours is a snug fit, I wonder if we received the same thing! Did you order from BoxWave? I have a little plastic tool that I used to get the corners onto the top half quickly which was actually made to fit into the creavice of a HTC Dash phone to pop the clips and take the phone apart. It works great and I can see the little flaps around the corner so you can tell the corners of the phone are between the gel lips.. It's still too easy to come off though..
Even though my receipt says "Praetorian Crystal Slip, HTC Tilt2, Smoke Grey - SKU: bw-268-3729-2808", it also says "ITEM: HTC TOUCH PRO2." The Box also has a white sticker in the top right that says "Praetorian Crystal Slip - TOUCH PRO2."
Do you remember if yours said the same? Maybe they somehow shipped me the wrong one?
Learic said:
If yours is a snug fit, I wonder if we received the same thing! Did you order from BoxWave? I have a little plastic tool that I used to get the corners onto the top half quickly which was actually made to fit into the creavice of a HTC Dash phone to pop the clips and take the phone apart. It works great and I can see the little flaps around the corner so you can tell the corners of the phone are between the gel lips.. It's still too easy to come off though..
Even though my receipt says "Praetorian Crystal Slip, HTC Tilt2, Smoke Grey - SKU: bw-268-3729-2808", it also says "ITEM: HTC TOUCH PRO2." The Box also has a white sticker in the top right that says "Praetorian Crystal Slip - TOUCH PRO2."
Do you remember if yours said the same? Maybe they somehow shipped me the wrong one?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I got mine directly from boxwave. They have like 3 different models of that slip. Most of the adds I saw on Amazon and eBay claimed it would fit on 3 or 4 different TP2 models which I knew it wouldn't. I emailed boxwave about the pics in their online catalog because it didn't look like a Tilt 2 to me and they admitted it wasn't. They said they didn't have one for the pics. Which made sense I mean why spend that much just to get pics but they promised it would fit so I figured what the hell. The hard covers kinda suck.
Thanks for the replies, I guess I will go ahead and order it and see what happens.
I just got the unbranded version of this case off ebay (the seller's id was e-story).
It's not too bad on my unbranded TP2. It's slightly more difficult to slide out the keyboard, and when the screen is fully tilted, the top row of keys are slightly obscured, but nothing too major in my opinion.
I like that the case improves the grip of the phone, but I'm also rather concerned that the case will eventually melt under hotter conditions since the material feels rather gummy.
Hello all,
I purchased an M1 Official Malata Case for my Gtab. I ordered it from it2steve, received it yesterday and it looks and fits great.
One problem...
It now seems that my screen is less responsive. I specifically notice it around the corners and around the right edge (same edge as home keys). Its becoming a problem with ADW as it is difficult to hit the onscreen button to open the program launcher and difficult to hit the Home button located at the top taskbar.
When I take the tablet out of the case there does not seem to be a problem. I have tried recalibrating using the took by gojimi and it does not seem to make a difference. I also have a Skinomi screen protector on, which I do feel had reduced the response already slightly, but it is now much worse with the case. I am also running Vegan 5.11.
Let me know what you think.
Maybe,Magnet will affect the capacitive touch screen.
I have noticed that the right hand side of my screen is a bit less sensitive than the left, but I had not associated that with the use of the case. (I have an m1 case as well). I also remember this being mentioned in another forum by a frequent contributor here.. (the lack of sensitivity, not its associated with the case).
It is a bit annoying to have to hit a button twice (and sometimes messes me up in angry birds) but it is not that severe in my case.
Dan
I too have chimed in on a couple of these posts adn I origionally thought it was the case as well, as it just seemed to be in the upper right hand corner. However I still have that issue and noticed last week (when I actually started typing more) that I was having an issue with anothe spot, right around my 'A' key.
I know that this has nothing to do with magnets or the edges of the case as now I'm playing around in the CLIP. I use Gojimi's calibration app but I'm personally leaning more to 'it doesn't like to wake up properly' as it seems to go away when I reboot?
I am pretty sure this is because of the case (to be precise, it is the part that wrap around and infront of the tablet)case.
I have an apad case and had the same problem. My tab has no problem outside of the case.
To solve the problem, I had to cut out the leather part that wrap around the tab and use a piece of velcro to keep the tab inside the case. I had no prolem now.
I am with you steve, that A key gets messed up.. and it does appear to be software, because it appears (my subjective opinion) that you can improve the sensitivity by doing simple things like hiding and exposing the keyboard. It also seems to be different depending on what you are doing.. for example, you would think that if it were a dead spot on the touchscreen, it would interfere with typing when you held it vertically, but it does not seem to.
BTW, is the clip case any good? I am debating whether to buy a dock from you
Dan
Maybe its just me but since i've received my M1... which i love. My touch screen seems too sensitive... i'm click stuff when its suppose to be scrolling... I'm going to say its not the case... Because my is doing the exact opposite.
on a side note when i originally got my gtab sensitivity was awful... i switched to the gingerbread rom and it seemed to fix itself.
All the more reason for making the switch once it pops into Beta!
I have one of the M1 cases and the Skinomi screen protector and just did some tests with and without the case. I can not discern any difference at all when the case is on.
The main problem is that your fingertip is less compatible than your finger pad due to calluses, etc... With the case on you cannot get a clean shot at the extreme most corners. You can only hit it with your fingertip. This will vary by person. A construction worker will have a harder time than a surgeon. When you take it out of the case, you are hitting the area square with your whole pad.
Is anybody else still experiencing this with the M1 case? I'm trying to decide between the M1, P3 and the Clip and decreased screen response would be a huge deal breaker for me.
clankfu said:
Is anybody else still experiencing this with the M1 case? I'm trying to decide between the M1, P3 and the Clip and decreased screen response would be a huge deal breaker for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you read my response? It is not the case.
TEK112 said:
Did you read my response? It is not the case.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea, I did but not sure I totally follow what you're saying. Why would a person use only fingertips with a case as opposed to their whole finger pad without one?
clankfu said:
Yea, I did but not sure I totally follow what you're saying. Why would a person use only fingertips with a case as opposed to their whole finger pad without one?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The case is not flush against the device. On the edges where it covers the screen there is an ever-so-slight upward curve (just the nature of dealing with this material). So, when you try to press the edge of the screen where it meets the edge of the case your finger is partially blocked by the case. That means that sometimes only the tip of your finger makes contact and sometimes that is not enough to trigger the action you desire. So, I think people were experiencing this occasional malfunction and blaming it on the case. The case is sort-of to blame, but it does not reduce screen sensitivity.
Do that make more sense?
TEK112 said:
The case is not flush against the device. On the edges where it covers the screen there is an ever-so-slight upward curve (just the nature of dealing with this material). So, when you try to press the edge of the screen where it meets the edge of the case your finger is partially blocked by the case. That means that sometimes only the tip of your finger makes contact and sometimes that is not enough to trigger the action you desire. So, I think people were experiencing this occasional malfunction and blaming it on the case. The case is sort-of to blame, but it does not reduce screen sensitivity.
Do that make more sense?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea, I think I got it. Thanks for the clarification.
Maybe I'll opt for the Clip since it doesn't seem to cover any of the screen.
clankfu said:
Yea, I think I got it. Thanks for the clarification.
Maybe I'll opt for the Clip since it doesn't seem to cover any of the screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am looking to do the same, eventually. However, even if I didn't buy the M1, I still can't justify $50 for a case. That is almost the price of 2 M1's.
Yea, the price is making me think twice about it.
I got myself a prime last week, promptly ordered a keyboard because nobody had one in stock and I didn't feel like paying a $70 dollar premium on amazon to get it in the future anyway, and received the dock yesterday.
Electrically, the dock seems fine - all of the keys work, it charged normally, it's discharging normally, etc. - but it appears to have a physical deformity at the front of the unit. I took a picture of the unit to demonstrate... unfortunately, as some of you are no doubt aware, taking close-focus pictures of smallish things with an android camera is a little tough. Still, see attached image for the illustration. Note the gap between the rubber stopper and the fact that you can see the palm rest surface despite looking at the tray head on.
The question is, of course, "is this normal?" Does anyone else have a warped dock? It seems like the trackpad buttons don't quite click as easily as I think they should, but I don't have anything to compare it to. None of the local Best Buy stores have a dock on display, either.
[edit]I started this thread in the wrong forum and moved it here, then forgot to attach the file. Here's a link to an imgur-hosted copy:
http://i.imgur.com/Bn0la.jpg
nurrwick said:
I got myself a prime last week, promptly ordered a keyboard because nobody had one in stock and I didn't feel like paying a $70 dollar premium on amazon to get it in the future anyway, and received the dock yesterday.
Electrically, the dock seems fine - all of the keys work, it charged normally, it's discharging normally, etc. - but it appears to have a physical deformity at the front of the unit. I took a picture of the unit to demonstrate... unfortunately, as some of you are no doubt aware, taking close-focus pictures of smallish things with an android camera is a little tough. Still, see attached image for the illustration. Note the gap between the rubber stopper and the fact that you can see the palm rest surface despite looking at the tray head on.
The question is, of course, "is this normal?" Does anyone else have a warped dock? It seems like the trackpad buttons don't quite click as easily as I think they should, but I don't have anything to compare it to. None of the local Best Buy stores have a dock on display, either.
[edit]I started this thread in the wrong forum and moved it here, then forgot to attach the file. Here's a link to an imgur-hosted copy:
http://i.imgur.com/Bn0la.jpg
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When mine is closed, the lid touches the rubber bumper on the keyboard which is what I would expect. Yours doesn't seem to close properly.
Thanks - that's what I suspected. It contacts the two rubber pads on the sides, so this poor thing is the victim of a god-knows-what. The box was completely undamaged so I guess someone sat on it at the factory.
Obviously anyone else that wants to weigh in is welcome to do so - on this topic, anyway, I don't recommend actually weighing in on the keyboard dock because I guess it will bend.
Yep, looks bent, as if it was laying on a soft rocking chair, couch or something undocked and someone sat on it. You could take your knee to the back of it with a hand on each side and try to bend it back You may end up with a creased unit afterward though... I'd send it back as a return and try to find one somewhere else.
My keyboard dock also came with a slight bend to it (from a UK Grey BC0KAS batch). I didn't notice it at first, but when I put the keyboard on a flat surface when closed, it wobbled. Towards the back the centre of the metal was coming into contact with the table, so the rubber feet were slightly raised.
I was able to gently apply pressure, using a soft cloth, to the metal around this area and correct this so it's not really noticeable now.
Also, when the tablet is docked, and closed, there is a slightly larger gap on the right side between the screen and keyboard than the left. It makes contact with all 3 rubber pads, but it's definitely there.
I'm still contemplating returning the whole lot to Comet, as I have 3 stuck pixels, and have been experiencing poor WiFi and some crashes.
Quality control definitely could have been better here.
SO! I went to another Best Buy that actually had docks in stock, did an exchange, and the second dock is bent as well. That said, the buttons on the trackpad actually click easily on this unit, so I think I'm going to keep it especially given how difficult it is to find anything with a TF-201 in its model number in stock.
It'd be interesting to see how many docks have warping or if it's supposed to be there. I guess it could be Asus' way of giving us space to fit our fingers in to open the unit...
Turns out mine was slightly bent too. I never would have noticed had it not been for this thread... Lol, anyway...mine was bent slightly in the middle. The middle rubber stopper didn't touch when cosed. It is really, really easy to bend this though...i just put pressure in the middle from behind and pushed slightly and the gap has disappeared.
I don't have the dock yet but this will be on my new dock QC checklist when I do get one. I'm not planning on getting one for a while so hopefully stuff like this will be ironed out by Asus and stocking levels are better. I'm thinking August (my birthday).
So I've found some vent-mount car docks on eBay (mainly shipping from overseas and all for the International versions of the Note). Does anyone know of any vent-mount car docks being sold in the U.S. (I just want it to arrive fast) and for the AT&T version of the Note?
Main reason I want the vent-mount instead of the official windshield/dash mount is because I had the Atrix on a windshield mount and the Atrix screen got heat damaged. I want to avoid that problem with my Note.
Thanks in advance!
UPDATE:
I ended up getting all of the following:
Car Mount: http://www.proclipusa.com/brodit-device-holder/samsung-galaxy-note-(gt-n7000)/holder-with-tilt-swivel-511303-18842.aspx (with associated mount for my specific car)
Case: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006ZZTCZI/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
Screen Protector: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00772FXX8/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
USB Car Charger: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064X1COK/ref=oh_o02_s00_i00_details
I love this phone
In case anyone is also looking for this, I decided to take the advice from another post I saw in the other car dock thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22693025#post22693025
gtnote said:
youll love the proclip, it just looks so profesional and great quality, i just ordered the clip for the note since i already have the dash mount i have used for my last 3 phones, great customer service high quality item and an american company, i applaude you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I appreciate your link to them. I would never have found them without it (I've googled a LOT ).
I love the idea of that case, its like a wallet and phone case in one. However I can imagine that the credit cards pressing against the screen are going to leave visible marks on your screen. Maybe not scratches or damage, but lines where the plastic/dirt will be rubbing against the glass.
Its a similar problem that happens with some laptops where the keyboard leaves marks on then screen when closed and moved a lot.
screen protecter installed? ^^
Pops_G said:
I love the idea of that case, its like a wallet and phone case in one. However I can imagine that the credit cards pressing against the screen are going to leave visible marks on your screen. Maybe not scratches or damage, but lines where the plastic/dirt will be rubbing against the glass.
Its a similar problem that happens with some laptops where the keyboard leaves marks on then screen when closed and moved a lot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's something I'll definitely keep a watchful eye on, but thanks for pointing it out (I didn't really think about this). I'm not sure yet about using it as my wallet, but I'd like to eventually be able to. A lot of credit card companies are now doing flat cards (no raised bevel on the numbers, since they're really not useful like that anymore). Also I'll definitely have the screen protector on it and hopefully that'll save any wear/tear on the screen itself.
Since a few months I own a prime, and in general I'm not very satisfied. Wifi, GPS and overall speed problems are the cause.
But now I found out that the dock touchpad is damaging the screen of the pad. I noticed because my screenprotector was damaged precisely where it touches the touchpad when the ensemble is closed. I thought this was because my screenprotector was too thick, so I ignored this.
But just some days ago I removed the screenprotector, and now there are some tiny marks on the screen exactly where it touches the touchpad. After close inspection I found out that the 'upper' part of the touchpad and the ridge above it (between the touchpad and the space key) are sticking out slightly, touching the screen. So whenever I close the ensemble, the touchpad and ridge will be touching the screen, thereby damaging it.
I'm curious if more user have this problem.
Should I RMA?
Also, I bought the transformer in Malaysia, but I live in the Netherlands, so I won't be able to return it to the retailer.
It is a design problem and all units are affected by this. I added stoppers to my unit so this would not happen, if you plan to rma, do so before the scratching damage causes the glass to crack completely.
heres a photo of my 'workaround'
Regardless of where you brought it, raise the problem with asus locally. and to be more precise, its the lower keyboard lip scratching your screen.
qwertylesh said:
Regardless of where you brought it, raise the problem with asus locally. and to be more precise, its the lower keyboard lip scratching your screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I found out that the exact same thing is happening with the 'upper keyboard lip'. So the screen is damaged on the bottom as well.
I looked at it closer, and it's not just the screen that's being damaged by the 'keyboard lips'. The touchpad on the dock itself also appears scratched. Probably some hard dust got stuck between the screen and the touchpad.
Wow, this really makes me angry. When I get back home next week I'm not getting off the phone with Asus before they promise to change my TF for an Infinity (not very realistic I know but worth a try).
Yeah I have too had screen scratches from dirt on the upper lip area and it made me pretty angry that they designed the rubber stoppers to be so ridiculously pointlessly thin.
I just purchased a second Dock today actually, same thing happens with it (I closed it once) so I wont be using that dock as a spare until I add extra stoppers to it either.
Adding stoppers should help prevent the glass from scratching from dirt but it's still a good idea just to ensure the upper part of your dock is clean when you close it.
I've had the exact same issue with the dock damaging the screen protector.
qwertylesh's stoppers idea sounds great and I am considering implementing it myself
But for now I am using a type of screen protector I got off Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003MDTURG/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
Does the job of protecting the screen, however the Prime and the dock do not feel very flush when closed.
I have done the same mod for my spare dock now, it works great, there's a similar stopper mod form all the corners but I find two on the glass is fine
DaLongTjeu said:
I found out that the exact same thing is happening with the 'upper keyboard lip'. So the screen is damaged on the bottom as well.
I looked at it closer, and it's not just the screen that's being damaged by the 'keyboard lips'. The touchpad on the dock itself also appears scratched. Probably some hard dust got stuck between the screen and the touchpad.
Wow, this really makes me angry. When I get back home next week I'm not getting off the phone with Asus before they promise to change my TF for an Infinity (not very realistic I know but worth a try).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have not seen this happening - perhaps because I'm using a portfolio sort of case that by it's nature provides a similar sort of buffer between the screen and the dock.
My question though is why you would expect an Infinity to be any different? I haven't had the opportunity to actually examine one up close but from the pictures, both the front of the device and the dock look nearly identical to the Prime. So wouldn't you expect to have the same problem with the Infinity?
ratman6161 said:
I have not seen this happening - perhaps because I'm using a portfolio sort of case that by it's nature provides a similar sort of buffer between the screen and the dock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That also crossed my mind, but how easy and fast is it to disconnect the screen from the dock? Do you have to take it out of the portfolio case or can you leave it in?
ratman6161 said:
My question though is why you would expect an Infinity to be any different? I haven't had the opportunity to actually examine one up close but from the pictures, both the front of the device and the dock look nearly identical to the Prime. So wouldn't you expect to have the same problem with the Infinity?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't expect it to be different. Or maybe I do, if this damaging of the screen issue is something many people complained about. Perhaps they use slightly higher stoppers on the dock that comes with the Infinity? But you're probable right, the dock is most likely exactly the same.
Still I would exchange my TF for an Infinity without thinking, just because the other issues with the TF (Wifi, gps, performance) drive me insane! Or better still, get a refund and spend my hard earned money on something that's actually worth it. Of course, a refund will only happen in my dreams...
they (TF700) use the exact same stoppers and have the same issue.
was also getting the scratches. quick fix for me is just putting a screen cleaner wipe in between the Prime and the dock. i do intend to do a similar mod to Qwertylesh soon.
I did this^ for quite some time, I had a thinner one then what came with my TF201 that I used.
Word of caution, if you have the silver tablet, dont use a cloth that is a darker or notable color, it can (oddly enough) discolour the touchpad eventually.
My silver touchpad has some dark staining, its no big deal (especially now that I have 2 docks), just want to let you know that i've done what your doing and it does work as a stopgap just dont use a black or dark cloth, stick to white/sliver microfiber if you can.