Teamviewer alt for helping mama - Asus Padfone X and S

Hey,
I gave my mam a motorola xoom about 2 years ago. She went from a complete technophobe to being able to google things, watch youtube etc
The xoom was giving a few problems and her old mobile phone was starting to give in so I got her a Padfone S t00n and dock to replace both and have an all in one solution. I gave it to her last night and tried to install teamviewer on it so if she had any problems, she could just open the teamviewer app, give me access and I'd be able to control it from my laptop to fix any issues. She's still very much a technophobe and I could smell the fear off her as I introduced a new bit of technology.
Unfortunately from what I've seen, teamviewer (or asus?) only allows this for business users I don't even know what this means or how to become a business user.
Is there any way around this or any alternatives that can be used? The installed PC link won't work as were on different wifi connections.
Any help would be appreciated!

Bump? My mam has been running into a few problems and I'd like to be able to fix them remotely if anyone knows how?

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https://www.teamviewer.com/hi/help/341-how-can-i-control-my-android-device-with-teamviewer
Looks like it's a restriction Teamviewer (possibly at ASUS' request) put in place.
An alternative is to set up a VNC server on the Padfone, such as https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vmlite.vncserver , but you'll have to have her tell you the IP address (if on cellular) or you'll have to port-forward her home router ahead of time (if on wifi).
Unfortunately, it's not as straight-forward as Teamviewer.

Thanks a lot for the help. I sent teamviewer a mail so will see what they say
The VNC method sounds complicated, I'm not very tech savvy myself when it comes to that kinda thing. If it requires any input from her other than just launching an app, I don't think it would work either as she's really bad
Would her IP change every time or once I knew it, would it be ok? She'd be on her home wifi but also on 3g, but the wifi would take over when she's in range which would be most of the time.

cormie said:
Thanks a lot for the help. I sent teamviewer a mail so will see what they say
The VNC method sounds complicated, I'm not very tech savvy myself when it comes to that kinda thing. If it requires any input from her other than just launching an app, I don't think it would work either as she's really bad
Would her IP change every time or once I knew it, would it be ok? She'd be on her home wifi but also on 3g, but the wifi would take over when she's in range which would be most of the time.
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Her home IP might stay the same for long periods of time if her internet/power never go out. If you set up the router to port-forward the VNC port (5900) and make note of the IP ahead of time, all she'll have to do is launch the app and hit "Start" for you to remote in. But if the internet/power ever goes out, she might get a new IP. While you shouldn't need to re-port forward, she'll still have to tell you the new IP address.
On cellular, the IP changes often (phone reboot, switching between 2G/3G/4G, etc), so she'd have to tell you the address pretty much every time.

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Her home IP might stay the same for long periods of time if her internet/power never go out. If you set up the router to port-forward the VNC port (5900) and make note of the IP ahead of time, all she'll have to do is launch the app and hit "Start" for you to remote in. But if the internet/power ever goes out, she might get a new IP. While you shouldn't need to re-port forward, she'll still have to tell you the new IP address.
On cellular, the IP changes often (phone reboot, switching between 2G/3G/4G, etc), so she'd have to tell you the address pretty much every time.
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Ok great, thanks again for the continued input. I'm just hoping it's easy enough to set up as if I can't get it going within the testing time of the app, it'll be a waste of $10 if it doesn't work
I had a quick look on youtube for examples of the app in use and it seems fine. Do I just enter a URL to control it or do I need to install some software on my laptop? Would it be possible for me to control it from my phone by any chance, just on the chance I won't be near my laptop?

Would it be possible to use AirDroid? Or have you already tried that?

I think that would require both connections to be made over the same wifi network?
I'm waiting to hear back from Teamviewer, I think they may be able to set me up with a commercial license possibly

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Remote Desktop Woes

I am seriously frustrated here:
I have an Ameo 16 GB (T-Mobile UK) and for the 1st couple of weeks remote desktop was working fine, then suddenly it stopped working.
I thought I broke the settings somewhere, so I double-checked everything. The T-Mobile Ameo comes with the default T-Mobile Internet connection pre-configured. It actually states "This connection is pre-configured. It cannot be modified."
The default settings are programs that auto connect to the Net should connect using the default T-Mobile Internet connection, and programs that auto-connect to a private network should use "My Work Network".
"My Work Network" has no values set anywhere.
Normal Internet access is fine in either IE or Opera (branded by T-Mobile as Web'n'Walk).
I have changed so programs that auto-connect to private network use T-Mobile Internet connection, same result as before.
I have set up a custom Internet connection for "My Work Network" using "general.t-mobile.uk" as access point, "user" as username, "pass" as password and domain left blank. I can connect to the Internet with these settings, but not via Remote Desktop.
Sometimes, normally after having re-booted the Amea and manually connected to "My Work Network" (as per settings above) I can connect, but it drops the connection while I'm still typing in username and password.
Normally I get either of these error messages when trying to connect via Remote Desktop:
"Cannot connect. Likely reasons are:
1) Specified computer name or ip does not exist.
2) A network error occurred while establishing the connection"
or
"Cannot connect with current connection settings. To change your connection settings, tap Settings".
I have cleared storage memory on the Ameo five times. I have phoned T-Mobile tech support who basically told me to sod off - apparently as long as the device can browse the Net they've done their job!
I have had T-Mobile replace the device and this morning I received a brand-spanking-new Ameo. I fired it up, let it go through the customisations, and reboot, then I tried Remote Desktop without changing anything or installing anything. And I got the same as above!!!!!
Please, guys, I'm desperate! Any help is very welcome here! I do network support for a living and I got the Ameo because I can fit a server's entire screen in and have a seperate keyboard. Except now I can't use it!
I used to have a Universal, which I sold to help finance the Ameo, so I'm truly stuck!
Oh how I wish I could unlock the damn thing and flash a better ROM to it!
Just as an update, yes, I've tried using "My ISP" as well, with the same results. And yes, everything's just peachy on the servers I need to connect to - I can connect to those servers using other devices.
And no, using Logmein is NOT an option and please don't even mention any form of VNC - you have to be seriously foolish to run VNC on a server, you might as well pay for some banner ads that say "Come hack me!"
Please don't give me advice on setting up routers, or Remote Desktop on 2000 Server, Server 2003 or Server 2008. I can do those quite well.
What I cannot do is get my damn Ameo to connect and stay connected and I'm absolutely desperate for help there!
the same
my ameo on t-mobile has done same thing, stopped working about 2 weeks ago, was working fine till then, only reason i bought the damn thing (anmd yes, i too ebayed my exec, i regretting it
so anyone out there got any ideas? i have same problem using ICS so i am guessing either a network etting on the phone, or some idiot at t has closed rdp traffic (tried chanmging a port number to 80 on a test box behind my router, still no go)
What is the operating system on the target pc first off. as i had that problem with a hack fix on vista home premium
all i had to do was to re-apply the fix.
as far as remote desktop the Ameo 8gb model ( x7500) didn't have rdp on it so i used one of the ones from this forum but under another section ( i think it was networking but do s earch to find them )
needless to say mine has never stopped working
a good test is try it from your local wireless home network if it's a home pc, and if ti works then look at the forwards on your router, make sure 3398 is still forwarding to YOUR pc and that your pc still has the same IP.
if you have a static ip and no router. always check your firewall settings.
as far as other possibles if your internet is working and all other data connections then there's no reason it SHOULDN'T work as t-mobile do not filter out 3389 port.
it has to be a problem at the target machine or network in that case.
but feel free to tell us more about the target pc and how it's connected to the internet and maybe we can find a solution
also what RDP client are you using on your Ameo
Cyberjak, the target machines vary: Server 2003 Enterprise Edition running ISA Server 2006, and Server 2008.
RRAS is installed on the non-ISA servers, while ISA of course takes over where RRAS left off. In all cases ports 3389 (TC{P & UDP) is open for inbound access, and on the ISA box it is open for in and outbound access.
Had you read what I wrote in my second post you would have seen I need no help in setting up RDP. I build, support and maintain networks for a living and trust me when I say the issue is NOT with the remote servers, but with the Ameo! I can use a collegue's O2 Touch Diamond and connect to any of the servers, but not the Ameo 16 GB.
I'm using a default T-Mobile Windows Mobile 6.1 setup as my Ameo has never been unlocked or flashed, and I'm using the stock standard Remote Desktop client that came pre-loaded and that used to work.
The issue is either with the Ameo, or with T-Mobile blocking RDP.
NanoRuler said:
Oh how I wish I could unlock the damn thing and flash a better ROM to it!
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Why can't you do this? Is your phone owned by the company and they would frown if you modified it? AP4 includes Remote Desktop Mobile, so you might try that ROM if you do unlock.
My device is a 7510 and Olipro's unlocker doesn't work on it. I have been explicitly told that the unlocker might brick it
Hallelujah! The age of miracles is upon us!
I've put in a complaint to T-Mobile, and out of the blue Remote Desktop started working, while I also received an e-mail from T-Mobile's tech support.
Here's an extract from the e-mail:
"I have came across someone else with this problem and we are trying a temporary fix by adding a update to your account which is on now, so if you could retry the connection and let me know how you get on"
My translation of the message: We screwed up by choking RDP to save bandwidth across our network, you (and presumably others) caught us out, so now we'll pretend we're the good guys and that we've discovered something wrong and we'll fix it, but don't expect us to say sorry!
I will give T-Mobile a ring today and see, I guessed it would be t-mobile as I ave a whole range of different RDP servers I connect to and none worked!
lol, T-Mobile took all of about 2 minutes to enable my RDP again, told them I knew it was there prob as I read on XDA-Developers, got to love the internet nice one NanoRuler
NanoRuler said:
Hallelujah! The age of miracles is upon us!
I've put in a complaint to T-Mobile, and out of the blue Remote Desktop started working, while I also received an e-mail from T-Mobile's tech support.
Here's an extract from the e-mail:
"I have came across someone else with this problem and we are trying a temporary fix by adding a update to your account which is on now, so if you could retry the connection and let me know how you get on"
My translation of the message: We screwed up by choking RDP to save bandwidth across our network, you (and presumably others) caught us out, so now we'll pretend we're the good guys and that we've discovered something wrong and we'll fix it, but don't expect us to say sorry!
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RDP Port filtering or NAT misconfigured !
bhermer said:
lol, T-Mobile took all of about 2 minutes to enable my RDP again, told them I knew it was there prob as I read on XDA-Developers, got to love the internet nice one NanoRuler
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Just realised what T-Mobile said in their e-mail "I have came across someone else with this problem" - was that you? That WOULD be funny!
Way I look at it if we don't stick together we'll get shafted by big corporations!
Used to know a guy who had something printed on the reverse of some of his business cards. It read "Doing business with your firm is like having sex: it gives one a feeling of warm bliss.....while being screwed!"
Thanks to T-Mobile I know what that feels like! Having said that I'll also categorically state the last guy I dealt with at T-Mobile knows his stuff and was very helpful.
Curious, it does lead to believe something about the ports being like group policy's that they use as the voice over ip ports only are open for WnW Max customers usually unless you scream at them after being with them for a long time. heheh
Nano, no offence mate but i've been doing similar work for years as well but it's sometimes the simple things so you can understand me asking.
you would ask a client the same thing.
NanoRuler said:
Hallelujah! The age of miracles is upon us!
I've put in a complaint to T-Mobile, and out of the blue Remote Desktop started working, while I also received an e-mail from T-Mobile's tech support.
Here's an extract from the e-mail:
"I have came across someone else with this problem and we are trying a temporary fix by adding a update to your account which is on now, so if you could retry the connection and let me know how you get on"
My translation of the message: We screwed up by choking RDP to save bandwidth across our network, you (and presumably others) caught us out, so now we'll pretend we're the good guys and that we've discovered something wrong and we'll fix it, but don't expect us to say sorry!
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A possible solution for those of us on T-Mobile's standard web n walk
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I thought I'd post my experiences here in case anyone else (like me) searches for a solution to enabling RDP on T-Mobile (UK at least).
I was having the same problem with remote desktop, it saying that the server was not available. I phoned up T-Mobile's helpdesk as recommended here and after getting past first line support (who didn't know what remote desktop was, and tried sending new connection settings to my phone to resolve the issue) I got through to someone who knew what they were talking about. Turns out that I'm on T-Mobile's "basic" or "handset-only" web-n-walk package, and it's not possible to use RDP on this. I assume they block the relevant ports. They told me that I could pay an extra fiver a month to upgrade to a version of web-n-walk which can handle RDP.
Well I told them I would think about it, but instead tried to find a way around it as the one or two times I need to use RDP are certainly not worth a fiver a month. My solution is probably only suitable for the more techy of us, but without much work and with no prior experience I managed to set up a SSH tunnel using FreeSSHd as a server running on my windows server (although a normal windows box should work fine - http://www.freesshd.com/) and zaTunnel as a client on my phone (http://www.zatelnet.com/zatunnel/main.php). Both programs are free.
Basically my phone takes all RDP connections and tunnels them over SSH to my windows server, which then turns them back into RDP connections. T-Mobile have no idea I'm using RDP, and if they block the SSH port in the future I can always change FreeSSHd to run on port 80 (for web). This will also work for other protocols T-Mobile might be blocking (FTP springs to mind).
Just thought I'd post this in case anyone was in my situation of needing RDP on their standard web'n'walk.
Cool! Thanks for posting your rather excellent work-around! I will certainly be referring people back to your solution.
I think T-Mobile's out of order for not allowing RDP on all plans, without absolutely clearly stating that on some plans it isn't allowed.
You're the customer and you pay for some bandwidth. Short of illegal activities, what you use that bandwidth for is none of their business.
T-Mobile Grrrr
Many Thanks for this thread.
My Remote Desktop stopped working on my phone last month but co-incidently it was around the time I was re-intsalling my server and also flashing numerous roms to my phone so thought it maybe something with that.
But then realised I could remote desktop over my wireless at home and from other networks across the net so it wasn't anything to do with config on my side. Thought either phone or network.
Flashed a rom with remote desktop that i KNEW worked and still nothing...
Thought - this MUST be T-Mobile... glad I'm not the only one.
Have sent an email and hopefully they'll enable Remote Desktop on my line.
There is no way I'm gonna start paying an extra £5 a month for something I've been using for the last 20 months as part of my package and have removed wihtout any notice/warning.
i'll tell 'em where to shove their £5 extra a month

Application for Bluetooth PAN tethering -- now for charity

The ad revenue from this app has passed the $25 mark -- what it cost me to register with Google to put the app in the market. As promised, any revenue the app earns from that point forward will be added to my annual donation to the Baypath Humane Society of Hopkinton, Massachusetts -- a no-kill shelter.
Thanks from me and thanks from the kittens and puppies.
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I've written a widget to establish a PAN connection between the Nook a phone. It grabs the first networking-capable device it finds in the list of pairings. A couple of things to note:
There is an application. All it will do is show you what device, if any, it can connect to. It has to turn on Bluetooth to get the list, but it will politely ask you before doing so.
The widget will turn on Bluetooth, but it isn't so polite. For the life of me, I can't find a code snippet nor can I think of one that will start the polite activity (or any activity) from a widget that doesn't directly involve a button press. If anyone has such a snippet, I'd love to see it. I know its possible because the Bluetooth GPS widget does it. Fixed!
The widget, of course, requires root.
I do send a Toast when the process is complete, but toast from my widget isn't reliable. I need to figure that out, too... advice is welcome. Fixed!
Still to do: Monitor the connection and reflect the status in the widget. Fixed!
If nothing else, it's prettier than a GSCript script. Once it's stable and complete, I'll stick it in the marketplace.
Note... You must be running CM7 and you must have already paired the phone before you can use this....
Apr-13: New version with better Bluetooth device state management.
Apr-17: Added connection monitoring, polite Bluetooth enabling
Note: The pop-up to grant superuser access is asynchronous, so there may be a timing window on first use where state is not correctly monitored. I'll try to work that out, but in the meantime, all subsequent uses should work.
The icon will display a yellow LED during the connection process and a green one once the connection is going.
If a connection could not be established, the LED may go briefly green, then turn off. The challenge is that the only way I can monitor the connection is with "pand -l" or "ifconfig bnep0" and if the connection is gone, the attempt to read the result from those commands simply hangs. So, I start a thread and then periodically run "pand -l". A different thread monitors the first and, if it looks stuck, I kill the process and turn off the LED. But, until I can be sure it's really stuck and not just taking time to answer, the LED will be green. Fixed!
Obviously, once the connection is broken, the LED will go off.
Since I have the LED, I've taken out most of the toast, though some still comes from the OS.
Apr-19 Fixed the widget graphics so the LED turns off instead of disappearing. Fixed the green-before-failed connection status issue. Added a proper toggle -- if the connection is off, tapping the widget turns it on and if the connection is on, tapping the widget turns it off.
Apr-20 The official version is now in the Market:
https://market.android.com/details?id=earlmagnus.nctether
May-27 Fixed a null pointer issue discovered by Ophbalance
As always, feedback is welcome.
Could you accomplish the blue tooth polite toggle with a conditional method?
Check blue tooth status,
if off, direct user to settings-> blue tooth
I know thats not as cool as a nice button press
Downloadin ur app now!
One other oddness...
... Android doesn't seem to think the tethered connection is worthy of note. If you start the browser after being connected, you'll be told you have no connection. Pages will load perfectly well, anyway.
sinanju said:
... Android doesn't seem to think the tethered connection is worthy of note. If you start the browser after being connected, you'll be told you have no connection. Pages will load perfectly well, anyway.
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I'm pretty sure it's because Android does not natively have bluetooth DUN capabilities, at least input-wise; it's based on functions within custom kernels, and therefore the system does not recognize it as a connection capable of fueling GApps.
But I could be completely wrong / that information could be outdated; this is from my research into Bluetooth DUN for my Nook when I first got it a while ago, and I'm not much of a developer. I'd more call myself someone who likes dabbling with code, and watching everything break.
But back to this post's point: thank you so much, you are a god. I've been looking for an easier way to do this for so damn long.
Kudos, sir. Kudos.
This is very promising! Now, what is the feasibility of adding Bluetooth DUN support? A number of phones out there (to include Blackberries) do not support PAN. I've done a lot of googling and have come across one resource, which may or may not be useful: https://github.com/wertarbyte/android_vendor_cyanogen/blob/omni-tether/prebuilt/common/bin/tether
The "pand" binary is included with the CM7 ROM, but "dund" is not. How much effort would be involved in adding this functionality?
Thanks in advance and appreciate any guidance..
exactly what i was looking for.
Thanks a lot for this. Will be installing and tethering to my iphone via mywii
I will report back with results.
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This is very promising! Now, what is the feasibility of adding Bluetooth DUN support? A number of phones out there (to include Blackberries) do not support PAN. I've done a lot of googling and have come across one resource, which may or may not be useful: https://github.com/wertarbyte/android_vendor_cyanogen/blob/omni-tether/prebuilt/common/bin/tether
The "pand" binary is included with the CM7 ROM, but "dund" is not. How much effort would be involved in adding this functionality?
Thanks in advance and appreciate any guidance..
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DUN is in a whole different ballpark. I don't know what's involved.
Thanks, folks, for trying it out. I have an idea for monitoring connection status, but other than some POC work, I probably won't get to it before the weekend.
It doesn't work for me, it says tethering then tethered and then starts tethring again and this goes on quite sm time and then the internet doesn't work, i really needed this:-(
am running pherimod 5.3 and trying to tether with sony erricsion's k530i which has bluetooth networking.
rigy73 said:
It doesn't work for me, it says tethering then tethered and then starts tethring again and this goes on quite sm time and then the internet doesn't work, i really needed this:-(
am running pherimod 5.3 and trying to tether with sony erricsion's k530i which has bluetooth networking.
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Does the application show the the phone and its BT address?
Is there a particular app you have to start on the phone before you begin tethering and, if so, does it show status if a link is established?
EDIT: Also... have you used the phone for tethering before with a laptop? Do you know tethering should work?
For the life of me, I can't think of anything that would make it loop through connection attempts other than mashing the widget repeatedly.
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Does the application show the the phone and its BT address?
Is there a particular app you have to start on the phone before you begin tethering and, if so, does it show status if a link is established?
EDIT: Also... have you used the phone for tethering before with a laptop? Do you know tethering should work?
For the life of me, I can't think of anything that would make it loop through connection attempts other than mashing the icon repeatedly.
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Yes phone and address are both shown, i start tethring by taping the widget and as for the status i see nothng xcpt bluetooth icon, which shows that both the devices are connected. But am trying this with a gprs connection. i havent tried 3g yet, will that be any different?
Yes the phone has bluetooth tethring, the pc suite has a module for bluetooth internet.
I've attached a new version in the OP. Have a try.
I've improved managing the Bluetooth device. Final state of the connection still isn't reported... that will have to wait.
I would remove the widget and uninstall the old app before installing the new version.
Hm... pand --nodetach doesn't do what I hoped it would in a --connect context... So much for that idea.
I'm trying to use this app to tether my nook to my moto Droid. When I tap the widget it says there's no paired PAN device. I've tethered these two before using the pand command, so I know it's possible. Am I doing something wrong? The droid and nook are "paired but not connected", but every Bluetooth device has said that.
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I'm trying to use this app to tether my nook to my moto Droid. When I tap the widget it says there's no paired PAN device. I've tethered these two before using the pand command, so I know it's possible. Am I doing something wrong? The droid and nook are "paired but not connected", but every Bluetooth device has said that.
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They were probably paired while the droid wasn't advertising the profile. I rely on the list of paired devices knowing which is the network provider.
Try this:
- Remove the Droid from the list of paired devices on the Nook
- Enable visibility on the Droid
- Get the Droid ready for a PAN connection
- Then, from the Nook, initiate pairing
That should ensure the Nook sees the Droid can provide a network connection.
Now I just need my phone to just advertise the bluetooth network without having to run wifi tether.
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Now I just need my phone to just advertise the bluetooth network without having to run wifi tether.
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Nothing WiFi related will help you.
My WinMo 6.5 phone just shows a list of nearly a dozen profiles it supports, PAN being one of them. My suggesting about getting the phone ready for PAN before pairing came from my experience setting up my Ubuntu system as a tethering client. Both that and the Nook recognized the PAN profile when I did that.
The only app I could find that supports bluetooth tethering and is reliable on my HTC Hero is wifi tether set up in bluetooth mode. I have been using it for over a year with my netbook.
What would make the bluetooth tethering the cat's ass would be to not to have to start anything on the phone, for the connection to always be available so i could just wip out the nook and be able to use the data connection.
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The only app I could find that supports bluetooth tethering and is reliable on my HTC Hero is wifi tether set up in bluetooth mode. I have been using it for over a year with my netbook.
What would make the bluetooth tethering the cat's ass would be to not to have to start anything on the phone, for the connection to always be available so i could just wip out the nook and be able to use the data connection.
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Can't help you there... that's up to the phone.
In my case, it's an HTC Topaz and I have to start an app on that, too...
I am happy to report it works well with mywii running on my iphone and tethering from the nook.
Did not have any issues at all. And yes, i did have to hold my iphone the right way

[Q] Is there a way to force an app to use mobile data connection instead of WiFi?

I'm going to start here with this question before expanding it to the whole xda-developers Q&A area, since this is something I am trying to do specifically with my Note.
Is there a way to force an app to use mobile data connection (MDC) instead of wifi?
Specifically, I am trying to figure out if I can force Activesync and/or the Gmail app to use the MDC instead of the wifi connection when I am already connected on wifi, especially if there is a way to have either of those apps detect that it can't communicate with the servers through wifi, and auto change to using the MDC.
Reason for this??? I need to receive emails through Activesync and Gmail at all times, due to being on-call for work. The wifi connection screws up sometimes, but the phone stays connected to the wifi thinking it can still access everything ok. (yes, it is a problem with the router, not the phone, and that is being investigated separately)
Yes...I know I could just turn off my wifi connection on the phone, but I prefer to leave it on if possible, and just use the MDC for those two apps. Is that even possible to use the MDC while still connected to wifi, or is there a requirement that wifi be turned off to use MDC, no matter what???
Also, what is the proper name for the MDC? That might help me search for a solution. MDC was the best I could come up with for it, but maybe there is an "official" name for this connection?
I have the Tasker app installed, and have been thinking about trying a way to make Tasker cycle the wifi connection for me, but as I said, I would prefer to just leave the wifi turned on, and just force those two apps out the MDC.
Any help, or maybe just point me to some more info? I have search for about a week now, and am finding plenty of people asking how to restrict an app to use wifi, but not the other way around.
Thanks!
MonkeyThumper
Additional info:
Think of it this way...the wifi issue may be firewall related. So, the firewall stops my phone data from going to the internet through wifi. I need to still get my emails though. I would like to stay connected to my wifi, so that I could tell that I am having problem as soon as I try to surf the web, but my emails would still be coming through because they are using the mobile data connection instead.
I've never seen a mobile data connection stay active while wifi was turned on and connected.
Your best bet is to either fix whatever is wrong with your wifi connection, or bite the bullet and leave wifi off, until you can fix your wifi connection.
i agree, dont think its possible to use data connection,without turning off wifi first(impossible to have 2 data types simultaneously)
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i agree, dont think its possible to use data connection,without turning off wifi first(impossible to have 2 data types simultaneously)
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I dont think its impossible, as I believe txts come over data, not sure on this though. Is it possible to get what you want, yes most likely. Is it going to be easy, probably not. Address the real problem rather then applying an over complicated bandaid.
If your staying connected, but losing data at home then it is likely your modem is the culprit (assuming you use a modem connected to a wireless router, not a all in one device). If it belongs to the cable/phone company then contact them. If you bought your modem, find out what is compatable and buy a new one and see if this fixes it. I had the exact same problem with Time Warner the dumb asses tried telling me it was my wireless router problem despite still being about to be 100% up and running on internal (streaming music and movies from plex server while on phone and even able to RDP internally). Eventually they agreed to send a tech out and he laughed at them and gave me an upgraded modem and we were good to go.
Thanks for the support, but as I said, the wifi issue is being addresses separately. It may not be a quick & easy fix, because additional "testing" is being done on the network (firewall) that may be the real cause of the issue. It is being looked into though.
So...for everyone trying to get me to just "fix" the wifi first, sorry, but it isn't going to happen right now. I would just like to find a way to do what I requested in the original message.
Think of it this way...the wifi issue may be firewall related. So, the firewall stops my phone data from going to the internet through wifi. I need to still get my emails though. I would like to stay connected to my wifi, so that I could tell that I am having problem as soon as I try to surf the web, but my emails would still be coming through because they are using the mobile data connection instead.
Does that help clarify my need of this some?
I agree that it seems only one connection can be active at a time. On my windows mobile phone it defaulted to the data connection, android seems to default to wifi (i would bet this is a requirement from the carriers).
As for texts, they are delivered through spare bits on the cellular carrier channel that were left as spares very early on. Not via data channels. Which is why forcing us to pay to send texts is such robbery - we are literally using otherwise spare bandwidth.
How to bypass MDC?
I have a similar need as MonkeyThumper. My situation is that I have a camera application which allows me to view my camera's at home. It uses port 2000 of which our corporate firewall blocks. I have to turn off wi-fi so that I can use mobile in order to connect. Wondering if there is some routing protocol that I can tell my phone to use MDC instead of wi-fi specifically for that application. It's a nuissance to have to turn off wi-fi, check the camera's, then turn it back on regularly. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Apps = Not Likely. HOWEVER.... and I can't say for sure - mainly because I have no idea if the radios shut down based upon connection (example 3G turns off when on wifi) - but you can modify the routes in the route table and (again in theory) force data down one pathway or the other.
For example - using a terminal on the phone try this: Connect Wifi - then in the terminal type: ip route show
Output will be something like
default via 192.168.1.1 dev wlan0
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192.168.1.1 dev wlan0 scope link
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If you disconnect Wifi and repeat (ip route show) the output will look like this:
default via 10.77.xx.xx dev rmnet_sdio0
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10.77.xx.xx dev rmnet_sdio0 scope link
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So, you should be able to manipulate the route table with something like:
su
ip route add 88.77.66.55/32 via 10.77.xx dev rmnet_sdio0 (where 88.77.66.55 is your home IP address or the IP you want to get to).
The problem with this is... it's not persistent. So you'll be best off doing this from a script or something once you verify it works.
There might be another way too... I'm sure there's a route file somewhere that can be configured.
XDA is no longer worth my time.
Need GMAIL on Mobile Data, others on WiFi
hi, my case is simple:
At work, we have WiFi.
But, GMAIL is blocked.
So, i want all my other apps to use the office WiFi, but gmail to go over my mobile data.
I would imagine this scenario is getting more and more common.
Does anyone have any ideas here, apart from having to turn wifi off everytime i want to check my gmail?
any help much appreciated,
thanks James.
TimOster said:
XDA is no longer worth my time.
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Then go away.
2$HAYNE
TimOster said:
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okay, BYE
shayneflashindaily said:
Then go away.
2$HAYNE
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here here, I 2nd that.
that was an easy problem to solve
TimOster said:
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Since you randomly go around posting this same statement on many threads, let me see if I can give you a hand.
Give me just a bit.....I'll see if I can get a mod to help you find the xda door. No need to hit thanks Tim....more than happy to do it for you.
Sent from my Big Ass Outlaw Phone
TimOster said:
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Then dont come back.
shayneflashindaily said:
Then go away.
2$HAYNE
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captemo said:
okay, BYE
here here, I 2nd that.
that was an easy problem to solve
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Lol you guys! He said that over a year ago!!
Bubbajoe40356 said:
Since you randomly go around posting this same statement on many threads, let me see if I can give you a hand.
Give me just a bit.....I'll see if I can get a mod to help you find the xda door. No need to hit thanks Tim....more than happy to do it for you.
Sent from my Big Ass Outlaw Phone
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serge_harle_z said:
Then dont come back.
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440bro said:
Lol you guys! He said that over a year ago!!
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yeah, I know.
but my phone runs soooo good, im bored
been trying to decide what to flash. even if there are issues, it will give me something to do.

[Q] Android Phone as Router (Please read for more details)

Sorry if the title is ambiguous. This is what I am considering.
Scenario:
I have a router at home that is password protected. I frequently have guests coming over and sometimes, they need to have access to the Internet. My current situation/setup will result in me having to provide them my router password. The connection settings are then permanently saved on the guests' devices.
Desired Scenario:
I wish to use my Android phone (preferably Android 2.3.3) as an in-between. I would like the guests' devices to connect to my Android phone while the Android phone connects to the router.
As such, the guests' devices will only see the Android phone acting as a router.
Doing so will allow me to maintain the password of my router as a secret, while giving me more flexibility in deciding what each device (perhaps by MAC address?) can do.
Question:
Is this even possible?
If so, could someone point me in the right direction?
Background knowledge:
I have very limited knowledge in Networking but am always open to learning new things.
I am generally strong in C language and am new to Android programming. However, I can pick things up on my own once I have a clear direction or reference that I can use.
The reason for targeting Android 2.3.3 is because this is the current version on my Sony X10 Mini Pro. The speakers have died and now it's just a piece of device sitting on my table.
I want to make it more useful, so I am exploring other possible functionalities.
As of now, it is configured as a webcam but I'm still trying to get it to work with Skype.
Thank you very much =)
swb90 said:
Sorry if the title is ambiguous. This is what I am considering.
Scenario:
I have a router at home that is password protected. I frequently have guests coming over and sometimes, they need to have access to the Internet. My current situation/setup will result in me having to provide them my router password. The connection settings are then permanently saved on the guests' devices.
Desired Scenario:
I wish to use my Android phone (preferably Android 2.3.3) as an in-between. I would like the guests' devices to connect to my Android phone while the Android phone connects to the router.
As such, the guests' devices will only see the Android phone acting as a router.
Doing so will allow me to maintain the password of my router as a secret, while giving me more flexibility in deciding what each device (perhaps by MAC address?) can do.
Question:
Is this even possible?
If so, could someone point me in the right direction?
Background knowledge:
I have very limited knowledge in Networking but am always open to learning new things.
I am generally strong in C language and am new to Android programming. However, I can pick things up on my own once I have a clear direction or reference that I can use.
The reason for targeting Android 2.3.3 is because this is the current version on my Sony X10 Mini Pro. The speakers have died and now it's just a piece of device sitting on my table.
I want to make it more useful, so I am exploring other possible functionalities.
As of now, it is configured as a webcam but I'm still trying to get it to work with Skype.
Thank you very much =)
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it has been possible for years, apps like foxfi and pdanet from play store allow this!
ricky310711 said:
it has been possible for years, apps like foxfi and pdanet from play store allow this!
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Really?!?!
Damn!
I had no idea...foxfi and pdanet...
if it's not too much trouble, is there a free version that is not too much hassle? A quick search reveals that both foxfi and pdanet requires a restart from time to time for the free version.
swb90 said:
Really?!?!
Damn!
I had no idea...foxfi and pdanet...
if it's not too much trouble, is there a free version that is not too much hassle? A quick search reveals that both foxfi and pdanet requires a restart from time to time for the free version.
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just search wifi tether or wifi hotspot and you should be able to find a few!
ricky310711 said:
just search wifi tether or wifi hotspot and you should be able to find a few!
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thanks =)
guess i'll try those out then!
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thanks =)
guess i'll try those out then!
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no problem, if i helped be sure to hit that thanks button and reply if you encounter problems or have more questions!
ricky310711 said:
no problem, if i helped be sure to hit that thanks button and reply if you encounter problems or have more questions!
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Hi! Sorry for reviving a relatively dead thread.
I ran into a bit of a problem.
Most of the apps assume that I have a mobile data connection.
My phone does not have a mobile data connection and so it is unable to tether.
What I would like is for my phone to connect to my home router while accepting incoming connections from other devices (phones, laptops, etc).
Basically I want it to be acting as an intermediate router, as shown by the simple diagram below.
Router <-------> Phone <--------> Other devices
<-------------> is Wifi connection.
Hope it's not impossible.
Thank you =).
swb90 said:
Hi! Sorry for reviving a relatively dead thread.
I ran into a bit of a problem.
Most of the apps assume that I have a mobile data connection.
My phone does not have a mobile data connection and so it is unable to tether.
What I would like is for my phone to connect to my home router while accepting incoming connections from other devices (phones, laptops, etc).
Basically I want it to be acting as an intermediate router, as shown by the simple diagram below.
Router <-------> Phone <--------> Other devices
<-------------> is Wifi connection.
Hope it's not impossible.
Thank you =).
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It can't work like that sorry, the only way it works is MobileData--->Phone<---OtherDevice
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It can't work like that sorry, the only way it works is MobileData--->Phone<---OtherDevice
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Awww shucks!!!
Thanks =)
I guess I'll try to think of something else to do with my phone =)
swb90 said:
Awww shucks!!!
Thanks =)
I guess I'll try to think of something else to do with my phone =)
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That's okay check out my tool! It's got plenty of options! Check if our in my signature

[Q] VPN On phone worth it ?

I was trolling thru the settings and saw there's a built in VPN that can be used is it worth it or is this one that Verizon has control over and would just hand over your info to the mafiaa anyway ? Anyone know more about this or have you used it yet ?
It's just a remote access client. Stock Android comes with one, which you can still use here, LG has provided a more advanced one that has better compatibility with more advanced forms of IPSec encryption, haven't really played with it to see what else it does.
I highly doubt that Verizon has instructed LG to intentionally compromise the security of their VPN client, the legal ramifications alone would make this a very foolish decision, even for Big Red. The security of the traffic sent over the tunnel depends on what type of encryption was used, and we can't currently be positive that there is a type of encryption out there the NSA can't crack, they don't need Verizon's help to do so.
What type of VPN are you trying to connect to? If this is corporate or educational the security of the traffic isn't your responsibility anyway.
I just use the stock Android on. I have been using it for years so I stuck with it. I played with the LG one but for what I need, the stock is all I need. I use it to stream movies to me phone from my home server and I can access my drives.
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I never used it before and all I would need it for would be the occasional stream when Netflix don't have something. So I guess the LG one would work just fine. I didn't know much about there VPN being on he in the first place or android. So thanx I leaned a bit tonight. ?
And ya I know all about if the nsa wants you they'll get you lol. Which is why I won't even step near anything like Expendables. Lions gate is like a pack of wild dogs going after people right now. ?
Given the actions of our Broadband and Cellular companies over the last few years, i have decided i wont use my computer and phone without a VPN. They have no right snooping.
I use VYPRVPN and i have tried many Vpn services over the last 2 years. VyprVpn seems to be the best bang for the Buck and the have the fastest speeds and a large amount of servers. Two things that separate Vypr from all the other VPN services is they use their own proprietary Protocol called Chameleon Protocol which is built on top of OpenVPN. It adds another 256bit layer of encryption on top of OpenVpns 256bit encryption and keeps our ISP's from knowing if were are using a VPN at all. The other added Benefit is they use their own DNS servers and detect and prevent DNS leakage also built in kill switches for in case you loose your VPN connection for what ever reason it will disable your internet all together to keep whatever you were working on from leaking out for prying eyes. They do minimal logging. They would prefer you not to do any torrenting but they dont block you from torrenting. But if you are someone who likes to torrent then use a server outside the US that doesn't have strict piracy laws.
Like i said i have used many VPN services and VyprVPN is by far the best ive ever used. There are tons of perks that others cant come close to offering. I have the premier plan and its worth it.
YES VPN IS WORTH IT. Anonymity is a must for me and should be for everyone else. What i do with my connection is none of anyone else's business. Especially since i pay a buttload of money to have internet. Hope that helps.
jmotyka said:
YES VPN IS WORTH IT. Anonymity is a must for me and should be for everyone else. What i do with my connection is none of anyone else's business. Especially since i pay a buttload of money to have internet. Hope that helps.
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My ISP (Sonic.net) allows VPN if you have a valid account.
The LG VPN works fine. Still getting LTE speeds through their backbone.
I guess I'll keep VPN enable permanently.
Sounds good. Now to learn how to use it properly lol. But ya my thoughts exactly no one needs to see what I have on my connection but me. And with all the snooping going on and intrusive adds grabbing info to see what sites you visit just to send you relevant adds (cough cough ) it's a great idea.
Most routers support VPN so its free to setup and easy to do
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Hi all. Trying to get the lg VPN going but I've only ever set one up for my home comps n they basica9did everything for you. One click setup so to speak.
I got to name the VPN then it asks for the ip address but is that my ip or the one I want it to show (masked) ?gotta admit I don't know much bout this lol thanx in advance guys .
VPN on Android
VPN on Android has kind of been a sore subject since KitKat. I used to connect to L2TP on Mac OS X Server (snow leopard) from my phones as far back as Gingerbread, but with KitKat, L2TP became incompatible with Apple's implementation. That being said, PPTP works fine although being slightly less secure than L2TP. Android connects just fine to my Ubuntu Server PPTP, but no matter what I do I can not get get OpenSwan (Linux L2TP) to work outside my local LAN. Considering I have the EXACT same problem with OS X L2TP over the Internet but iOS devices can still manage to "phone home" to my L2TP server, I'm sure has something to do with my ISP considering L2TP an "enterprise" application and blocking my traffic, but iOS devices use some form of non-standard/undocumented L2TP.
I use VPN all the time for the simple fact that it provides a secure tunnel back home so I can grab files off my server, etc. Not only that, but it's a good way to provide at least some security when using public wifi. The thought of using public wifi without VPN gives me chills. It is disappointing that Android has deemed PPTP not secure enough to enable "always on vpn", which would tunnel 100% of your data through your VPN whenever a data connection (4G or WiFi) are available.

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