Hi.
I have a Sony Xperia Z2 with lollipop. The device is not rooted. I was using a sony 32GB Class 10 U1 micro SD card (SR-32UYA/TQ1). It is rated at 40MB/s read speed. The write speed is not mentioned. When I tested it with A1 SD bench I was getting a read speed of around 33MB/s and a write speed of around 15MB/s.
I just upgraded to a Samsung PRO 64GB Class 10 U3 Micro SD card. The Read speed is 90MB/s. The write speed is 80MB/s. When I tested it using A1 SD Bench i was getting read speeds of around 42MB/s and write speeds of around 40MB/s. This is half the advertised speed. Is this what I should expect from this kind of card? And what is the max read/write speed that the Xperia Z2 can handle? Thanks.
Its more of a device configuration thing
My Sandisk Sdcard is rated for 32mb/s but i get 50-60 because of the file system type, i/o scheduler and buffer cache sizes
R/w speeds have a bunch of factors and usually "rated speed" is A maximum of instead of what a user would ever see
Right! You will get those values when you put card into a card reader with USB 3.0 support. Beside the setting of IO scheduler and read ahead cache can effects 10-20% benchmark scores.
Hi, so what can u advise and tips when buying sd card. Thanks.
Envious_Data said:
Its more of a device configuration thing
My Sandisk Sdcard is rated for 32mb/s but i get 50-60 because of the file system type, i/o scheduler and buffer cache sizes
R/w speeds have a bunch of factors and usually "rated speed" is A maximum of instead of what a user would ever see
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Would you please post your settings?
Hello!
As today, in 2018, a A1 rated micro SD Card is worth to use with the Xperia Z2?
Thank you!
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Here is a thread that seems to be making the rounds throughout the forums...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010807
Following the guidelines in the thread, here are my results with CM7 using a Kingston 8GB Class 6 card...
Before:
Write - 6.6 MB/s
Read - 15.2 MB/s
After:
Write - 5.8 MB/s
Read - 94.4 MB/s
I would recommend playing with the values to see what works best for your particular SD card... Not quite sure
if it is a placebo type effect, but apps like the Gallery and games that use the SD card are noticeably faster...
Have fun...
I did extensive testing on a patriot class 10 8gb card today.
I had lowest standard deviation on results using 1024 buffer. I also had the highest reads at that buffer with a higher write speed.
I had the highest write speed at 4096, but the read speeds were slower than 1024.
I rebooted several times to make sure that wasn't playing into it, and reran many test. All results were relatively consistent.
~11.6 write
~86 read
@1024
~11.9 write
~79.4 read
@4096
~10.8 write
~71.9 read
@128
The change wasn't huge for me. Most have reported 2048 as the best setting.
Also, I updated my cm7_mod to include this. Working on making it installable w/ the scripting...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008612
It's only meant to be used with cm7_tablet_tweaks as a base now.
Couldn't such a buffer size setting be usefull for emmc (internal memory) too ?
I'm using dalingrin's OC kernel with the IO issue, and it feels slower than my SD card...
I've commited this tweak already today. I would be interested to find the optimal value for mmcblk0.
Jaostar said:
Couldn't such a buffer size setting be usefull for emmc (internal memory) too ?
I'm using dalingrin's OC kernel with the IO issue, and it feels slower than my SD card...
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My current kernel should not have any IO issues.
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I've commited this tweak already today. I would be interested to find the optimal value for mmcblk0.
My current kernel should not have any IO issues.
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Instructions for tweaking the emmc are in that thread. I wouldn't mind taking the time to test and crunch the numbers but sd tools only wants to test my SD card.
EDIT:
App called J Disk Benchmark 2.0 can test internal memory. Working on testing now.
Uhm... my SD card tests faster...
I hope people don't go over board and incorporate this type of permformance increases in their roms by default based on bench mark tools. there is value in increasing readahead for some access patterns, mainly when doing lots of sequencial reads. the trade off of course is at the expense of memory usage. nook even with its 500mb of memory is still not considered high in memory. setting the readahead to 2mb is quite aggressive and will work well in some work loads like galary when reading lots of files around 2mb in size while in other work loads it may actually have negative affects. I am not saying that this specific tweak is bad because I haven't done any tests myself, but don't always believe the numbers u see from benchmark tools.
I'm only setting it to 1024k. I feel like that is plenty high.
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I'm only setting it to 1024k. I feel like that is plenty high.
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Yes 1024 is what I'm running really gave the best all around performance.
I think I found the internal memory and it's set to 128 by default
can't find any real difference between 64 and 4096. That looks like the only other mmc device though, so it must be it.
chisleu said:
App called J Disk Benchmark 2.0 can test internal memory. Working on testing now.
Uhm... my SD card tests faster...
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Yep, it's the same for me, my Class 6 SD card achieves 6,3/11,6 and the internal memory only 4,86/7,52...
BTW :
J Disk Benchmark 2.0 doesn't use the cache, so this tweak wont affect the results...
Jaostar said:
Yep, it's the same for me, my Class 6 SD card achieves 6,3/11,6 and the internal memory only 4,86/7,52...
BTW :
J Disk Benchmark 2.0 doesn't use the cache, so this tweak wont affect the results...
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Balls.
I'm going to jack it to 1024 and hope that works then.
OK, I can't get any meaningful numbers anymore. I think yesterday's test was a fluke. I can't get any real changes from 128 to 4096 (or in between) with fast or slow SD cards, big or small, black or dark black.
The write speed on slower cards is lower (5-6mb/s) and the faster cards are higher (10-12MB/s) and read speed for all is 80-90mb/s.
Maybe this is a performance mod not for us?
A friend of mine just bought a Galaxy SII and wants to know if it's worth getting a class 10 card. Can the phone write to the SD at that speed. What is the maximum speed the phone can write to the card at?
The question is what you are planning to do with your phone to make use of such a high speed.
Class 4 means a writing-speed of at least 4MB/s. Even ignoring the fact that most cards can write significant faster in reality than their Class indicates, there is nothing you can really do with a phone to use this speed.
The fastest writing-speed you will need is when recording movies, and the highest bitrate the default camera uses is 17MBit/s.
With a Class 4 card you can record at least 32MBit/s.
Of course you can transfer your media faster on your card, if the writing-speed is higher, but how important is that?
It is a good point put forward by the poster above.
I have a class 10 card and it only comes in handy when transferring files to and from the card. Transfer speed is about 14MB/s with a patriot clss 10 16 GB from my experience so appears to be limited by the speed of the card. And writing is over 10MB/s which the class 10 part defines.
the SD card I have is called SanDisk ultra 64gb class 10.
The first time I inserted into the phone, it ask to be formatted.
after a few weeks and almost filling it up full, I noticed that saving stuff on it is extremely slow.
I ran benchmark to confirm my suspicion
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raclimja said:
the SD card I have is called SanDisk ultra 64gb class 10.
The first time I inserted into the phone, it ask to be formatted.
after a few weeks and almost filling it up full, I noticed that saving stuff on it is extremely slow.
I ran benchmark to confirm my suspicion
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Ok so let me get this straight, the test file you are using is about 144MB and the only space you have left on your card is 194MB? Have you tried deleting a few files then running the test again?
Are you having any other problems. I know the phone specs says it only supports up to 32gb MicroSDHD card. The one you are using is a MicroSDXD card. I was thinking about getting one of those off amazon but there were alot of reviews from people with android phones that said it worked initially but then had all kinds of errors and problems after running the card for awhile. How long have you been using yours?
use the app SD TOOLS.. run that app and see what u get for a score...
INMHO this issue is coming from sdcard cluster size. i own a htc hero and a adata 8gb class6 sdcard.
usually ,because i use ext partition, i formatted sdcard under recovery (amonra or cm) and the cluster size is 4k . in this condition the write speed is arround 1MB/s .
studying this issue and after some digging in android i found that default cluster size is 68k ??? .... anyway using any OS or cmd line in a computer and formating with 64k cluster size will give best results regarding sdcard write speed .
with 64k cluster size i get 8-10 MB/s ....
i think the issue is coming because recovery's format the card with 4k cluster size
at least this is happen in my case with htc hero recovery's
so , just set cluster at 64k and it will work (i hope )
tachita said:
INMHO this issue is coming from sdcard cluster size. i own a htc hero and a adata 8gb class6 sdcard.
usually ,because i use ext partition, i formatted sdcard under recovery (amonra or cm) and the cluster size is 4k . in this condition the write speed is arround 1MB/s .
studying this issue and after some digging in android i found that default cluster size is 68k ??? .... anyway using any OS or cmd line in a computer and formating with 64k cluster size will give best results regarding sdcard write speed .
with 64k cluster size i get 8-10 MB/s ....
i think the issue is coming because recovery's format the card with 4k cluster size
at least this is happen in my case with htc hero recovery's
so , just set cluster at 64k and it will work (i hope )
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Thanks Tac, this actually gave my class6 10.3write & 20.1read
jauger said:
Thanks Tac, this actually gave my class6 10.3write & 20.1read
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@jauger ,
can you tell me what utility use for testing sdcard speed: sd tools, sdcard speed test , A1 SD bench, sdcard tester ?
sd tools give me amazing results ... outside of my sdcard class 6 range
1 SD bench is in testing stage for me
sdcard tester require adobe air and for my device generation i think is too much hassle to make it run and even if i make it run can give poor results
sdcard speed test even if is discontinued it is very close to reality and real behaviour of my sdcard
PS: regarding sdcard speed test, it would be nice to post test results only at first run of app because a 2nd test it will give higher troughput from obvious reasons
What read & write speeds (MB/s) are you getting on your XTZ? Internal storage, not external SD Card.
I usually measure it on my phone with https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.anotherflexdev.sdcardtester.SDCardTester&hl=en but I am sure there are better apps that allow fine grained measure slike 4k random accesses vs sequential and so on.
I am having trouble finding that data for the Xperia Tablet Z and it is an important factor in my purchasing decision.
Thankyou.
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What read & write speeds (MB/s) are you getting on your XTZ? Internal storage, not external SD Card.
I usually measure it on my phone with https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.anotherflexdev.sdcardtester.SDCardTester&hl=en but I am sure there are better apps that allow fine grained measure slike 4k random accesses vs sequential and so on.
I am having trouble finding that data for the Xperia Tablet Z and it is an important factor in my purchasing decision.
Thankyou.
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I am attaching andro bench test results for the tablet z.
4k random writes, for example, come to about 1.1MB/s.
Thanks a lot.
So 47MB/s sequential and 15MB/s write. That means you can copy a movie from the tablet to a USB2 disk at max speed and copy from the disk to the tablet at like 60% speed.
As a reference, here is Anantech's latest benchmarks on other devices. It is the Note 3 review just skip to the NAND section.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/4
An USB2.0 disk will yield about 25MB/s sequential, a cheap old internal PC HDD is about 90MB/s (both write and read though) and a real SSD between 150MB/s on SATA 2 up to 450ish on SATA3. IOPS are another matter of course.
I like this tablet but I think I will wait for a tablet with faster eMMC and faster WIFI (ac). Maybe next model.
Thanks for your input.
Posting tablet NAND data instead of smartphone. I cannot edit previous post. I hope this is useful for those who land here from the search box.
http://anandtech.com/show/7378/samsung-galaxy-note-101-2014-edition-review/2
As provided above by francobarber:
Xperia Tablet Z Sequential read: 47.34 MB/s
Xperia Tablet Z 4kB Write: 1.1 MB/s
Hi,
I'm considering a purchase or Xperia X, but in one review (notebookcheck.net) they found very poor read/write speeds of external microSD card (only 17MB/s read and 13MB/s write - both are sequential). Have you tested it and are the speeds really so horrible? Thx.
it depends on the quality of your actual SD card being used. Currently using the Samsung Evo+ 64GB SD and I get over 50MB/s speed.
Thank you for your reaction. 50MB/s in Xperia X sounds promising . In the review (notebookcheck.net) they used Toshiba Exceria Pro M401 (very good SD card - R90/W80). Maybe compatibility problem between Xperia X and Toshiba Exceria. And your 50MB/s is read or write, or both?
robocopvn said:
it depends on the quality of your actual SD card being used. Currently using the Samsung Evo+ 64GB SD and I get over 50MB/s speed.
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With the same SD I get 30 mb/S read and 20 write. Empty and freshly formatted
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Thank you, Invicta. Your speeds are not spectacular, but I think they are sufficient.
write speeds are ok, read on the other hand is on the low side i think.
So finally I bought Xperia X and here is my experience: Sandisk Extreme 64 GB - R/W 30/30 MB/s. Speed is not the best but sufficient for me. I also tested Samsung Evo+ 32 GB, speed is lower than Sandisk. (27R/20W).
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With the same SD I get 30 mb/S read and 20 write. Empty and freshly formatted
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I get ~50MB/s read and ~30MB/s write. Don't know if it is in the variable range of the product but 20MB/s difference over 50MB/s is alot