Unlocked AT&T-branded PadFoneX. I'm getting low reception on Band 4 and no HSPDA+ reception whatsoever.
I upgraded the unit to the PadFoneS firmware and did the four Asus upgrades to bring it up to date with no better result. Applied the 99.99.99 down-grade back to KitKat and still no love. I use the APN settings for Fast T-Mobile USA and have tried others as well. My Huawei MediaPad Pro T1 8.0 gets strong T-Mobile reception and then switches over to HSPDA+ coverage once I enter my office building. The PadFone gets weak 4G LTE and then switches over to EDGE once I enter the building.
I was really hoping to replace my 8-inch Huawei with the PadFone but the radio reception just doesn't compare and I can't stand being forced to use EDGE inside my office building when I know that T-Mobile HSPDA+ coverage is usable within my building using the Huawei Phablet.
Can someone please please please help me in "fine tuning" this thing for T-Mobile. By the way the PadFone is rooted and I've unlocked the bootloader as well. Maybe there is updated modem firmware to flash? I just don't know what else I can do..
If you get HSPDA+ coverage from T-Mobile on your PadFone can you please share your configuration and APN settings??
Thank you!!!!!!
Chris R.
I have a PFX flashed to PFS Kitkat running on T-Mobile. Connects to the LTE network fine using the fast.t-mobile.com APN. Yes, reception seems to be on the weak side, but it gets the job done for me. Suspect that Mediapad gets a better signal due to it being larger = larger antenna.
HSPA works fine for me as well, but as this is an AT&T/International device, you'll only connect to HSPA on Band 2 (1900MHz). It lacks HSPA Band 4 (1700MHz/2100MHz) for T-Mobile's more extensive 3G network. It looks like that Mediapad has HSPA Band 4 (http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=7233&c=huawei_mediapad_t1_8.0_pro_4g_td-lte_t1-821l), so that's probably why it's able to get HSPA signal while the PF does not.
Thank you!
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I have a PFX flashed to PFS Kitkat running on T-Mobile. Connects to the LTE network fine using the fast.t-mobile.com APN. Yes, reception seems to be on the weak side, but it gets the job done for me. Suspect that Mediapad gets a better signal due to it being larger = larger antenna.
HSPA works fine for me as well, but as this is an AT&T/International device, you'll only connect to HSPA on Band 2 (1900MHz). It lacks HSPA Band 4 (1700MHz/2100MHz) for T-Mobile's more extensive 3G network. It looks like that Mediapad has HSPA Band 4 (http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=7233&c=huawei_mediapad_t1_8.0_pro_4g_td-lte_t1-821l), so that's probably why it's able to get HSPA signal while the PF does not.
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Thank you for your detailed answer! Finally, someone that understands this stuff! Hey, could I get the exact model number of your model?? I'm wondering if I could buy one like yours and then have it unlocked..curious...
Thanks!!!
Chris R.
crodgers79 said:
Thank you for your detailed answer! Finally, someone that understands this stuff! Hey, could I get the exact model number of your model?? I'm wondering if I could buy one like yours and then have it unlocked..curious...
Thanks!!!
Chris R.
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My device is the AT&T Asus Padfone X (ASUS_T00D). On the white label under the back cover it lists the manufacturing date as 2014/05/31 and is H/W Revision 1.6 (PFX was launched in July 2014, so this is probably a launch model). Bought it from Ebay a year ago pre-unlocked. Used it on AT&T's firmware for a few months before flashing the latest Asus Padfone S (ASUS_T00N) Kitkat firmware, "WW_11.10.7.18". I think I had to manually set my APN, but was able to connect fine.
Looking at the signal levels, the PFX pulls in -108dBm at my desk, while my Moto E2 pulls in -100dBm, both on LTE Band 4. Moto devices tend to have better radios, but I didn't expect the smaller, budget Moto E2 to pull in a better signal than the PFX.
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My device is the AT&T Asus Padfone X (ASUS_T00D). On the white label under the back cover it lists the manufacturing date as 2014/05/31 and is H/W Revision 1.6 (PFX was launched in July 2014, so this is probably a launch model). Bought it from Ebay a year ago pre-unlocked. Used it on AT&T's firmware for a few months before flashing the latest Asus Padfone S (ASUS_T00N) Kitkat firmware, "WW_11.10.7.18". I think I had to manually set my APN, but was able to connect fine.
Looking at the signal levels, the PFX pulls in -108dBm at my desk, while my Moto E2 pulls in -100dBm, both on LTE Band 4. Moto devices tend to have better radios, but I didn't expect the smaller, budget Moto E2 to pull in a better signal than the PFX.
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I pulled the back cover off of mine, it too is a T00D and, get this, manufacturing date was 2014/05/22 (!!!) FCC ID is MSQT00D, and H/W is 1.6 (!!).
I too did the X-to-S conversion and yesterday I applied each successive update until I got to the very latest 12.2.2.43 (16 Dec 2015).
So if we have nearly identical hardware, is there anything that I can do to improve reception? Could you send me the settings you used for APN?
Thanks!
Chris R.
By the way, your Moto is the better device, the lower the db number the better AFAIK..
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I pulled the back cover off of mine, it too is a T00D and, get this, manufacturing date was 2014/05/22 (!!!) FCC ID is MSQT00D, and H/W is 1.6 (!!).
I too did the X-to-S conversion and yesterday I applied each successive update until I got to the very latest 12.2.2.43 (16 Dec 2015).
So if we have nearly identical hardware, is there anything that I can do to improve reception? Could you send me the settings you used for APN?
Thanks!
Chris R.
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Don't know how to improve the reception, but here's my APN settings:
Name: T-Mobile LTE
APN: fast.t-mobile.com
MCC: 310
MNC: 260
APN Type: default
APN protocol: IPv4
APN roaming protocol: IPv4
Bearer: Unspecified
Everything else is set to Not Set/None.
I didn't set up the MMS proxy as I'm using a tablet data-only plan on the PFX. (I think data-only plans come with free SMS/MMS, but I don't use it.)
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By the way, your Moto is the better device, the lower the db number the better AFAIK..
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I know, which is why I was surprised that the cheap budget Moto E2 got a better signal than the PFX
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By the way, your Moto is the better device, the lower the db number the better AFAIK..
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I probably know why you are not receiving a a good signal on your device.
The thing is when you do the conversion, from padfone x to padfone s, the partiton gets overwritten and causes some of the bands to be lost.
That partition is called the efs partition, and probably you have lost some bands that probably would have worked better before you flashed.
The side effects can be seen through the software when additional call settings does not work. (SIM doesnt get recognized)
That is a known problem, and to avoid that you had to back up the efs partiton prior to the conversion so you could restore those kinds of connections after the conversion.
--- You had to use adam outlers repacked twrp version to do all that.
I know many of the guides there have replaced mine but they forgot that one thing that has been talked over, and thanks to tjsooley and the people during that time, they were able to figure it out.
Thanks..but consider this..
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I probably know why you are not receiving a a good signal on your device.
The thing is when you do the conversion, from padfone x to padfone s, the partiton gets overwritten and causes some of the bands to be lost.
That partition is called the efs partition, and probably you have lost some bands that probably would have worked better before you flashed.
The side effects can be seen through the software when additional call settings does not work. (SIM doesnt get recognized)
That is a known problem, and to avoid that you had to back up the efs partiton prior to the conversion so you could restore those kinds of connections after the conversion.
--- You had to use adam outlers repacked twrp version to do all that.
I know many of the guides there have replaced mine but they forgot that one thing that has been talked over, and thanks to tjsooley and the people during that time, they were able to figure it out.
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Thanks! I did read through all these threads searching for an answer before I posted my question. the first time I did the X-to-S conversion I thought exactly what you said (destroyed the efs partition containing the modem info). So I went back and loaded the 99.99.99.99 version posted on the Asus site which is supposed to restore it to factory settings and back to KitKat but that had no effect. Since 99.99.99 is for the PadFone S maybe that doesn't make use of the partition under KitKat, I don't know.
What I would dearly love to load is a flashable version of the original AT&T software (thereby restoring the partition and the modem info). I saw one guy had posted TWRP backups of stock but when I tried to restore them to my phone the script bombed and it aborted.
I agree with the other gentleman, I need UMTS Band 4 - (1900/2100) for this thing to work well in my area and it looks like this phone doesn't support it. If I could find someone familiar with QPST to tell me if that band is unlockable that wold be great!
Thanks!!!!
Chris R.
Unfortunately QPST couldn't work with this device, idk know why.
You could find out by searching through using the xda search engine, but the question is, did you back up your modem for this device prior, because it could be restored when the phone is on a stock fw, then you could create an efs backup afterwards.
To answer the question with the tarp backups, those were created from the repacked twrp version so flash that first and back up everything before you restore back to at&t fw. I don't think the quarx version could work with that since the repacked was based on the nexus 5. (Similar parts) (be aware that you need to wait a couple of mins for the black screen to go away, on that version of twrp.)
The thing is that I could use band 2 and 4 on at&t with this fw, (I did not restore my efs partition since the conversion since I lucky live in a good area) but it looks like band 4 doesn't work for t-mobile, hmmm maybe it is incompatible like the other guy said, but we'll see. After wards you gotta see if these bands would restore upon restoring back to the at&t fw.
Justatechie said:
I probably know why you are not receiving a a good signal on your device.
The thing is when you do the conversion, from padfone x to padfone s, the partiton gets overwritten and causes some of the bands to be lost.
That partition is called the efs partition, and probably you have lost some bands that probably would have worked better before you flashed.
The side effects can be seen through the software when additional call settings does not work. (SIM doesnt get recognized)
That is a known problem, and to avoid that you had to back up the efs partiton prior to the conversion so you could restore those kinds of connections after the conversion.
--- You had to use adam outlers repacked twrp version to do all that.
I know many of the guides there have replaced mine but they forgot that one thing that has been talked over, and thanks to tjsooley and the people during that time, they were able to figure it out.
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The EFS partition contains the modem, yes, but this isn't the issue here. When it comes to bands used in the USA, the Padfone S firmware has all the bands the Padfone X uses except for LTE Band 17, which is only used by AT&T, and would not affect T-Mobile in this case. I was able to use my PFX-converted-to-PFS on T-Mobile without restoring EFS fine.
Thanks!
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The EFS partition contains the modem, yes, but this isn't the issue here. When it comes to bands used in the USA, the Padfone S firmware has all the bands the Padfone X uses except for LTE Band 17, which is only used by AT&T, and would not affect T-Mobile in this case. I was able to use my PFX-converted-to-PFS on T-Mobile without restoring EFS fine.
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I think the PadFone's lack of UMTS Band 4 is what's keeping me from getting HSPDA+ inside my office building. Once I head into the building my 4G on Band 4 reverts to Edge (ugh!) and I have a 14Gb tethering plan so that I can run my tablet while inside the building..arrggh!
Thanks for your response!
Chris R.
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Ok, just a disclaimer (I am well-aware of my n00b status here)... I spent quite a few hours already on this site and on the Android forums, and on Google searching for answers to this... Not to mention time at the AT&T store and chatting w/some other phone reps (including Samsung tech support and AT&T tech support)... And while I've made some progress, I still can't get any definitive answers here.
So... that being said, first (and big 'sigh' I'm sure to many) is that I'm using a South Korea Note - the SHV-E160S. I know this is the I717 forums, but before I get flamed and booted, let me explain...
Well, I am on AT&T. No problems with calls or texting (minus the annoying 80-character limit, but anyways)... However, I have a BIG problem with the LTE. I'm on the LTE data plan, however, I cannot access any data network other than GPRS. Yes, my pings take about 533ms. My download speeds are about 53kb/s. This sucks, quite a lot. Esp when compared to my fiance's Note, which side-by-side gets about 13mb/s on the LTE network.
So... Did some research, and got the run-around... Less all the crap I heard from AT&T reps... It seems that the antenna for my Note is set to LTE850/LTE1800, and the actual AT&T SGH-I717's antenna is set to LTE700/LTE1700/2100. My sources for this come from PDAdb.net (I'd hyperlink, but my post count is not high enough to do that, yet).
So... Here come the questions. First... Is the antenna frequency tuning something built-into the hardware, or is it something that can be tuned via software?
-If it's in the hardware, would it be possible to buy an AT&T-spec LTE antenna? Which antenna gets replaced (from what I understand, there are two, and I can't find a legit source that tells me which is which), and where could I buy such a thing?
-If it's in the software, what would I have to do to re-tune the antenna? My phone is rooted with the latest Gingerbread Tegrak kernel.
Lastly... Though there is a difference between the LTE antennas... I still cannot access any network other than GPRS. I should at least be able to access EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA and HSPA+ as well, but I can't.
If ALL else fails, I guess I could get a portable tethering device with a contract... But that'd be oh-so-annoying to have to carry around all the time, and I'd like to avoid that option as much as possible. I'm paying $30/mo for LTE service on my phone already!
Anyways... Any thoughts or advice would be very appreciated, and my apologies if anything here is out-of-place. Thanks in advance!
U have the international note. Doesn't have late chip in it. But ur note has better CPU then the att note. The international note CPU is not comparable with att lte chipset that's y Samsung use 2different CPU. Yes u should be able to get 3g. Reset your apn. And search around. To find the code to reset your apn. I forgot. Its something like *2260*
I had an international first, had to rest everything to get data. But after few days. I return it cos I prefer to have lte speed more then CPU speed. And I found out the u can just over clock att note to 1.85 instead of stock 1.5. So now I am very happy with my att note.
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Hmm I'm not sure if this method works with the International Note but it's worth a try. You need to get into ServiceMode. On your phone dialer keypad type *#2263# and choose 2 WCDMA Band Preference and select (6) WCDMA all.
Reply with your findings.
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Hmm I'm not sure if this method works with the International Note but it's worth a try. You need to get into ServiceMode. On your phone dialer keypad type *#2263# and choose 2 WCDMA Band Preference and select (6) WCDMA all.
Reply with your findings.
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Thanks for the tip, but all I get is an error: "Connection problem or invalid MMI code."
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Maybe the issue is your kernal and/or radio? Isn't the Tegrak kernal Korean? Most likely your radio is also. That is probably your issue. The way I see it you have 3 choices: Live with it, Sell it and buy an I717 variant, Take the risk and at least flash the ATT Gingerbread radio.
home screen/ menu/ system settings/ more/ mobile networks/ access point names/ AT&T
Do all your entries match these? Write down your current ones before changing or take screen shots. You must use the menu key and save changes. Also make sure that is the APN checked after rebooting.
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U have the international note. Doesn't have late chip in it. But ur note has better CPU then the att note. The international note CPU is not comparable with att lte chipset that's y Samsung use 2different CPU. Yes u should be able to get 3g. Reset your apn. And search around. To find the code to reset your apn. I forgot. Its something like *2260*
I had an international first, had to rest everything to get data. But after few days. I return it cos I prefer to have lte speed more then CPU speed. And I found out the u can just over clock att note to 1.85 instead of stock 1.5. So now I am very happy with my att note.
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he doesn't have the international note(n7000) he has the South Korea Note - the SHV-E160S (he says it in OP), which it has the same processor as ours but some minor diferences in other things.
To the OP, why do you have a korean Note when from your avatar you're in the US?, I'm sure there's your problem, that note is set to use bands in korea and not in US, so the data is going to be crap, and for you to attempt to swap out the antenna is risking braking the phone because you run a chance after swapping it, not working and not having a working phone anymore.
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home screen/ menu/ more/ mobile networks/ access point names/ AT&T
Do all your entries match these? Write down your current ones before changing or take screen shots. You must use the menu key and save changes. Also make sure that is the APN checked after rebooting.
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I matched the APN settings of my fiancee's LTE Note first, and that did not work... It's pretty much exactly what you have posted. However, there are a couple things of note (bad pun, sorry). I do not have a 'APN enable/disable' or 'Bearer' field... However, everything else is set the same.
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To the OP, why do you have a korean Note when from your avatar you're in the US?, I'm sure there's your problem, that note is set to use bands in korea and not in US, so the data is going to be crap, and for you to attempt to swap out the antenna is risking braking the phone because you run a chance after swapping it, not working and not having a working phone anymore.
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I have a Korean Note because I was living in Korea for a while, and I just got back to the US last week.
As in my OP, I found that the LTE bands are different; however, I can't even get on any other data networks other than GPRS. I've tried some APNs for HSPA+, and the results are the same.
Swapping the antennas shouldn't be THAT big of a deal if I had to... I'm pretty mechanically inclined. Obviously, I need to know if it would provide the intended results or not first.
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I have a Korean Note because I was living in Korea for a while, and I just got back to the US last week.
As in my OP, I found that the LTE bands are different; however, I can't even get on any other data networks other than GPRS. I've tried some APNs for HSPA+, and the results are the same.
Swapping the antennas shouldn't be THAT big of a deal if I had to... I'm pretty mechanically inclined. Obviously, I need to know if it would provide the intended results or not first.
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Thanks for the reply, was just wondering where you got a Korean note. hope you can figure it out and good luck.
Sent from my CM9 Note.
Background: Work bought me an S4, but they use Verizon...I use T-Mobile. I must solve this issue. (Plus it's been so long that since I've even opened my QXDM/QPST that I almost...almost forgot how to use it, man, I miss it)...
This is more of a running log to potentially help others in their endeavors. This is an advanced topic...by today's standards. There is a LOT you need to know before just jumping in on this...unless you're like me and don't mind bricking a device for the sake of learning...then, carry on.
BTW, As you can clearly tell..I don't do super formatted frilly assed colorful posts...
ONWARD!!
What is known so far:
1. The modem MDM9615m is capable of anything...(Maybe even making you tea).
2. Using either 2009031920090615 or 2010031619780721 as the 16 digit PW in QXDM allows you to use "Software Backup" to backup and restore QCN files...(Both work, only one puts the phone offline)
4. The AWS band method that is floating around here (337_aws.qcn) doesn't work...it actually breaks the phone. (more on that later)
5. Putting your backup on again leaves whichever fields the 337 file had intact...so say you put the 337_aws.qcn file onto the phone, it stops working...however, you restore your backup...and the phone starts working again but all the fields of the NV that were written by the 337 file remain. Though phone functionality is restored.
6. MDK or ME7...doesn't matter at this point...no effect on functionality.
7. Flashing an MD1 modem/NV Backup from a T-Mobile Note II (which also has the 9615 doesn't seem to work...yet)...It actually kills the phone...I'll update when/IF I revive it...
8. You can Odin your modem back...whew!
What needs to be explored:
1. Whether or not flashing (shoehorning) another carriers radio will help (or if it's even an option)...this would probably have to be a regional carrier or maybe an international (non US) carrier's radio. Usually the bigger carriers can tell the manufacturer what to leave out/put into their phone...
2. Which NV Items need to be modified in order to get AWS (maybe even LTE) working.
3. Can a backup of another phone....let's sayyyy a T-Mo S4...be made and dumped onto the i545.
4. What complications are there? Is this permanent, can the phone be put back to "normal"? etc. etc.
5. If, as a last resort, we can edit the current parameters that are in the NV of a stock i545 to simply "reroute" (work with me here)...what bands it uses for which function...(this is the most tedious...but most undoable method...that I can think of....so far).
Troubles I've already ran into:
As mentioned before...after you write the 337_aws.qcn file to the phone it's pretty much set in stone...for now. When this happens, the modem starts boot looping...I'm sure this is due to bad parameters since the 337_aws.qcn file was probably from a 9215, i545 uses a 9615...you will not be able to access it again in QPST/XDM...
You'll have to get into Settings, More Networks, Mobile Networks, Network Mode, and select GSM/UMTS...this will keep the modem alive for you to be able to play with it again.
So far that's it. I've only been able to start messing with this phone in the past day or so...so, I'm sure this thread will be my dumping ground for my progress/findings/ideas...etc. Again, I encourage anyone that wants to help....to do so. I'm always open for collaboration.
This is where I start filtering down and organizing what I'm doing.
I believe that the best course of action right now is to utilize the 9615m radio from a Note 2...and perhaps a ROM from a T-Mo S4...
The main reason is because when you flash the 9615 modem but still use a VZ Rom...it tries to force it into a "WCDMA Preferred" selection. Which as we know...isn't an option in the menu. However, it's still trying...but I think the ROM doesn't know what to do at that point (could be way off here). I'm thinking that there has got to be a specific combination that needs to be used....for example...a Note 2 modem with a Tmobile ROM and NV backup? or that...but with a VZ NV backup...
I'm not a programmer/rom guy, (I'm more RF engineering etc...), so I don't know if there are things in the ROM itself that dictate which options are available and how the modem is used...
More exploration to be done...
Build.prop indicates to the system what network options should be available
Tmo rom looks like the way to go
On these newer phones the modem dictates pretty much everything else network-wise
CNexus said:
Build.prop indicates to the system what network options should be available
Tmo rom looks like the way to go
On these newer phones the modem dictates pretty much everything else network-wise
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That's good information....I tried running Paranoid Android but it wouldn't boot and any other rom told me that the device ID was wrong. I'm going to look into bypassing that check and try some more...
It hasn't been fully proven/disproven but it seems that there may be a "hard" block for US CDMA devices to use US GSM.
It can certainly see it but won't connect based on the threads I read.
But I don't think anyone has documented it in thorough detail what has and has not been tested.
Now if that setting is in NV data and can be modified... you may have a shot.
But if it's something hard coded and/or physical (QFuse) it may not be possible.
Q: Would it not be easier to find someone to swap with you? Or sell the device and get a Tmo?
garwynn said:
Q: Would it not be easier to find someone to swap with you? Or sell the device and get a Tmo?
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Haha, leaps and bounds! easier, but what's the fun in that? How will we learn what can and can't be done if we take the easy way? Plus...maybe someone runs into a stellar deal and can't afford a full priced S4...they might nab a VZ one for cheap...this could potentially help a lot of people...
This is more to learn than anything...
Any progress?
Any progress with this? I'm in the same boat.
Thats a shame. Would be nice to have found out if a CDMA S4 could be fully used with GSM network.
blackhand901 said:
Any progress with this? I'm in the same boat.
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blackhand901 said:
Any progress with this? I'm in the same boat.
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I've been stalking the internet for weeks to try and see if i can pick up all of T-Mobile's hspa frquencies in my area cause I'm tired of edge and I know the hardware is there i just don't want a brick. would rather 2g over a brick.
I have been on tmobiles 4g network with my i545 for 2 weeks now... I have had zero issues.
You an only get
justda said:
I have been on tmobiles 4g network with my i545 for 2 weeks now... I have had zero issues.
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HSPA on this divi e. Not LTE.
It makes me confused that band 4 LTE is locked on the phone
I always thought verizon had the open access regulation from FCC and that's the reason all verizon LTE phones are gsm unlocked
in fact some posts indicates it's CDMA unlocked also. Some CDMA carriers use R-uim card such as China telecom,and people were able to insert the ruim and have cdma working.
From this post, it seems verizon only had the regulation on LTE 700 band 17, not AWS band 4?
or is it just because verizon hasn't really deployed AWS LTE yet, so the relative software hasn't been released yet?
michael3770 said:
It makes me confused that band 4 LTE is locked on the phone
I always thought verizon had the open access regulation from FCC and that's the reason all verizon LTE phones are gsm unlocked
in fact some posts indicates it's CDMA unlocked also. Some CDMA carriers use R-uim card such as China telecom,and people were able to insert the ruim and have cdma working.
From this post, it seems verizon only had the regulation on LTE 700 band 17, not AWS band 4?
or is it just because verizon hasn't really deployed AWS LTE yet, so the relative software hasn't been released yet?
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just for clarification, Verizon uses LTE 700 B13 not B17. According to Samsung and some other website Verizon S4 support LTE B4 and B13. and according to the guy in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44206677&postcount=20 he is using or have used VZW S4 on T-mobile LTE.
This is one of the oddest things I've ever run into.
I can put a T-Mobile Sim in the phone and it works almost like it was a Verizon Sim with the exception of needing to switch it to global mode when prompted.
If I stick a GSM Metro PCS Sim that I am currently using on the M919 it wont connect to anything except Wifi.
I hate locked bootloaders.
What about with custom roms?
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just for clarification, Verizon uses LTE 700 B13 not B17. According to Samsung and some other website Verizon S4 support LTE B4 and B13. and according to the guy in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44206677&postcount=20 he is using or have used VZW S4 on T-mobile LTE.
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Sorry that was a typo, yep att use b17 and vzw use b13
Verizon is going to deploy a second LTE network using AWS spectrum in congested areas
Why you guys don't install "android data tool" to be able to enter the *#*#4636#*#* menu so you could set LTE only to see if Verizon S4 pick up T-Mobile LTE?
If you are rooted and have access to write system data you could edit the "sale_code.dat" file under system/csc and change from VZW to SPR, AWS or any other code, so you can have more network mode options under mobile network settings.
Just for some clarification... This is done on Stock Touchwiz rom or is the device rooted and / or rommed and loki-d
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Eric
So I can put a verizon sim card in my tmobile Gs4?I thought Verizon didnt use sim cards like tmobile and at&t.my tmobile Gs4 is unlocked so basically I just need a Verizon sim card and a Verizon plan. Thanks!!!
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I don't think that works that way. Verizon is a CDMA carrier and T-Mobile a GSM carrier. Verizon sim card is for LTE only (LTE is GSM based technology). Voice works over CDMA radio which T-Mobile S4 lack of it. T-Mobile sim works on Verizon S4 because Verizon S4 is CDMA/GSM/LTE capable.
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So I can put a verizon sim card in my tmobile Gs4?I thought Verizon didnt use sim cards like tmobile and at&t.my tmobile Gs4 is unlocked so basically I just need a Verizon sim card and a Verizon plan. Thanks!!!
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Hello all, so I recently consulted your fine website about purchasing the Optimus G to use on T Mobile here in Pittsburgh. It seemed to me that people were able to get HSPA+21 and LTE on the phone in the right circumstances, and that was good enough for me. So I bought the phone, unlocked it through cellunlocker.com and everything seemed to be going smoothly. I punched in the standard fast.tmobile.com APN address and I got 4G HSPA+ right away. I then proceeded to drive into downtown Pittsburgh, which now has T Mobile LTE, to see if it would connect. It didn't connect and stayed on HSPA. At that point I drove out of the city and went back down to EDGE and my phone no longer connected to HSPA anymore, only EDGE, until I went into my Mobile Network settings and selected the carrier directly. So I went into T Mobile to ask why my phone won't automatically connect to the most OPTIMUM speed and he couldn't figure it out. As a last ditch effort, we switched SIM cards and my phone automically jumped to LTE and his was stuck on HSPA. So hey, we figured it must be the SIM card keeping me from LTE. He gave me a new card, and it was on LTE until I left the store's broadcast radius. From then on, same story. The phone seems to pretty frequently get stuck on EDGE speeds and I contantly have to go and manually set the network to get HSPA+. What's more, I can't seem to get LTE under any circumstances. Can somebody out there please tell me what's going on? Do I have a defective phone with confused radios? Is T Mobile having a hard time syncing with my AT and T device? Do I need to do something with my APN or Mobile Network settings? Does this have anything to do with the way I unlocked the phone? Is it because the LGOG shares radios for LTE and HSPA or something that it won't default to LTE when it's around? I love absolutely everything about this phone and would like to keep it, but if it keeps behaving like this and won't even give me LTE or consistent HSPA+ then I might as well just get a crappy LG Optimus L9 that at least was designed for the network. Any insight you guys can offer would be much appreciated. Thanks so much!
Here are my current APN settings in case that has anything to do with it:
APN: fast.t-mobile.com
Proxy: Not Set
Port: Not set
Username: Not Set
PAssword: Not set
MMS Proxy: Not set
MMS Port: Not Set
MCC: 310
MNC: 260
Authntification: Not set
APN Type: Not Set
Network Operator: Automatically select
Try flashing the 33-84 radio: http://www.mediafire.com/download/wec8eeext05x8ge/LTEhybrid33-84.zip
That's what I use to flash my LGOG. That's from the Nexus 4 radio thread, and from T-Mobile N4 devices. I was able to add a different APN for AT&T easily, maybe can do the same for your T-Mobile.
- Combines the latest .84 radio from T-Mobile N4 and .33 LTE support.
- The N4 Radio thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087227
I see. Well seeing as I'm kind of a noob at this your post intimidates me a bit. How dangerous is it to put these N4 radios onto an LGOG? Will I risk bricking this thing or losing signal forever if I screw it up? Also, I'm assuming that the device must be rooted to do this? Also, if you think it's safe to try is there a thread or something that you can link detailed instructions for? I've never done anything like this in my life...I felt like a rebel just unlocking my phone! Thanks!
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I see. Well seeing as I'm kind of a noob at this your post intimidates me a bit. How dangerous is it to put these N4 radios onto an LGOG? Will I risk bricking this thing or losing signal forever if I screw it up? Also, I'm assuming that the device must be rooted to do this? Also, if you think it's safe to try is there a thread or something that you can link detailed instructions for? I've never done anything like this in my life...I felt like a rebel just unlocking my phone! Thanks!
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Not dangerous if you use TWRP. Just make a backup of your current stuff, and if it doesn't work can just restore. It won't hard brick your phone. And I've had it flash on more than one rom so far.
Root needed?
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Not dangerous if you use TWRP. Just make a backup of your current stuff, and if it doesn't work can just restore. It won't hard brick your phone. And I've had it flash on more than one rom so far.
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I see. Will the phone need to be rooted for that app to be used for the radio ROM? That's probably a silly question to ask on this website especially...but there it is.
I just got this phone and I'm loving it..came from the gs3. I was looking for a thread like this...hoping for a way to unlock the aws band..will root and flash tarp and try this tonight.
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Twrp** darn auto correct..lol
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I don't get lte at all with the FAST apn, I get very fast h+ with epc.tmobile.com. It all depends on your area though, if your tmo towers are refarmed for the correct band that our att phones support.
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I don't get lte at all with the FAST apn, I get very fast h+ with epc.tmobile.com. It all depends on your area though, if your tmo towers are refarmed for the correct band that our att phones support.
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So this modem works on our LG optimus g?
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would like to know if there's any update, thank you!
I have almost exact same problem. T-mobile lte not working for me, always getting the hspa+. I went to store and asked for a replacement sim card, then bang, lte shows up with the new sim card. Right after I walked out of the store and left in about 1 minute it's gone, forever. I'm not able to pick up any lte signal anymore. When I put this sim card in my ogp, it fires up lte right away.
I have read in another post people reporting they get lte with unactivated sim card but it went right away when they activated it. Really hope someone to explain for us how this situation is happening.
Thank you for all your great work.
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I couldn't edit my last post so I'm putting a new reply to add some info.
Both my og and ogp have the same apn settings. I tested them using the same sim card.
I just put another unactivated sim card in the og and surprisingly it picks up lte immediately. I don't want to activate this sim card right now so I can't tell if it would go away if I activate it. I hope this info would help a little bit.
qwertyegg said:
would like to know if there's any update, thank you!
I have almost exact same problem. T-mobile lte not working for me, always getting the hspa+. I went to store and asked for a replacement sim card, then bang, lte shows up with the new sim card. Right after I walked out of the store and left in about 1 minute it's gone, forever. I'm not able to pick up any lte signal anymore. When I put this sim card in my ogp, it fires up lte right away.
I have read in another post people reporting they get lte with unactivated sim card but it went right away when they activated it. Really hope someone to explain for us how this situation is happening.
Thank you for all your great work.
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I couldn't edit my last post so I'm putting a new reply to add some info.
Both my og and ogp have the same apn settings. I tested them using the same sim card.
I just put another unactivated sim card in the og and surprisingly it picks up lte immediately. I don't want to activate this sim card right now so I can't tell if it would go away if I activate it. I hope this info would help a little bit.
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Help! I have the exact same problem. I have a brand new att lg optimus g and unlocked it. Popped in the sim and bam LTE! Ran a bunch of speedtests, drove to my friends house and it switched to 4g and hasn't come back. The guy at tmobile wasn't sure. ...any help ? I'm going to root this and try flashing a new rom...maybe radio?
Seems to be an issue with this device, perhaps it's doing something to the SIM cards (who the hell knows) because mine did/does the exact same thing, and here's my particular example:
When I first got this LGOG last Sunday (8 days ago) I put my T-Mobile microSIM in it (one of the TM9190 series SIM cards) and got LTE off the bat without any issues. I kept the stock ROM on here for the first day or so and never had any issues and then I got into doing the typical root/unlock bootloader/install recovery/backup stock ROM/flash custom ROM/etc routine and even after that I was still able to get LTE working almost immediately.
A few days ago I noticed that the LTE wasn't being picked up, and it hasn't since. I've flashed several radios for testing (.33, .48, .33-.84 hybrid, etc) and the ones that are LTE ready still didn't get LTE so I just flashed the whole thing back to complete JB stock (JZO54K, the last available LG build) and even that didn't help - I've yet to see LTE show up in any respect at all with that SIM card.
Now the interesting part:
I have another microSIM that had prepaid service a few months back, bought it at the same time as the one I use for my primary service - they were on sale from T-Mobile online for $.99 each so I got two and kept the other one around just to have it.
In spite of all the flashing I've done in the past few days, with like 5 ROMs tested, a kernel or two, and maybe 7 flashes back to pure stock using LGNPST and the LGE970AT-01-V20j-310-410-MAR-08-2013 ROM (the stock one), after all that flashing torture I put this LGOG through, as soon as I put that other SIM card in it - which is not active at this time - and powered up the phone I got an LTE signal right off the bat without a problem. Had already made the APN changes to fast.t-mobile.com so they just kicked right in and wham, 4G LTE right there on the status bar.
And yes, the SIM cards are the same "series" (?!?!) with TM9190 imprinted on both of them - they also have the same code on the front side (620048) and their serial numbers are just a few digits off in sequence - like I said, I bought both of them with the same order so, it stands to reason they'd be from the same batch.
Loaded a few web pages on the T-Mobile prepaid billing site (it's what comes up when you insert a prepaid already activated but not presently in use SIM, very limited but it does work), checked the system stats, everything showed me I was connected to T-Mobile with their LTE service, this phone, and that other SIM card including the status bar icon being the traditional 4G LTE one (big 4, little G, little LTE under it).
Then I rebooted the phone and that was that, the LTE capability just up and vanished like a fart in the wind, and I've done most everything that I could do - including reading a few hundred posts in two dozen threads - to get it functional again and it just doesn't work anymore.
I suppose it's not a big deal to me since T-Mobile's HSPA+ is fine with me, I regularly pull in 10-15Mbps on a speed test in various locations (was out earlier today testing stuff in the eastern parts of Vegas), but I am somewhat pissed that I am unable to get that LTE functionality working again.
Tried:
- a complete stock flash, several times, of the AT&T JB ROM, no dice
- all the currently available LTE-capable radios, no dice
- an AT&T SIM but it's not provisioned so it doesn't work at all (T-Mobile doesn't do that, hrmmm... their SIM cards work months later even after the number has been assigned to another customer, go figure)
- all the hidden menu options (3854#*970#, WCDMA automatic, tried forcing LTE only, several other things), no dice
- tried manually setting LTE only with *#*#4636#*#* using custom ROMs, no dice
- adding the LTE enabling lines to build.prop, no dice
Nothing works, so I'm only left to conclude that either a) T-Mobile is doing something funky (highly unlikely), b) something is borked with the phone (potentially true), or maybe c) the phone is doing something to the SIM cards after a reboot or any change in the network mode from LTE to anything else (leaning towards this possibility more).
I can't explain it, I can't figure it out, and I can't get LTE working anymore but as I said, the HSPA+ is enough for me as here at home the LTE signal is somewhat weak (1-2 bars at best whereas HSPA+ pulls in 5 bars and a -61dB signal almost constantly).
I wish I could figure it out because I'd like to do more testing with LTE enabled but apparently once LTE gets disabled for whatever reason after having it actually working, not once but twice now it just dies and never becomes possible again.
Stranger things I suppose...
If anyone does ever figure this fiasco out, post whatever solution you came up with or discovered so the rest of us can give it a shot as well 'cause I'd love to be able to enable LTE if I so chose. This is pretty frustrating in the long run - if it never ever worked at all that would be one thing, but having it work then suddenly just disappear never to work the same again, that's just pooched.
Slightly off-topic, but how's the battery life compared to AT&T? Or, in general, is it okay?
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Seems to be an issue with this device, perhaps it's doing something to the SIM cards (who the hell knows) because mine did/does the exact same thing, and here's my particular example:
When I first got this LGOG last Sunday (8 days ago) I put my T-Mobile microSIM in it (one of the TM9190 series SIM cards) and got LTE off the bat without any issues. I kept the stock ROM on here for the first day or so and never had any issues and then I got into doing the typical root/unlock bootloader/install recovery/backup stock ROM/flash custom ROM/etc routine and even after that I was still able to get LTE working almost immediately.
A few days ago I noticed that the LTE wasn't being picked up, and it hasn't since. I've flashed several radios for testing (.33, .48, .33-.84 hybrid, etc) and the ones that are LTE ready still didn't get LTE so I just flashed the whole thing back to complete JB stock (JZO54K, the last available LG build) and even that didn't help - I've yet to see LTE show up in any respect at all with that SIM card.
Now the interesting part:
I have another microSIM that had prepaid service a few months back, bought it at the same time as the one I use for my primary service - they were on sale from T-Mobile online for $.99 each so I got two and kept the other one around just to have it.
In spite of all the flashing I've done in the past few days, with like 5 ROMs tested, a kernel or two, and maybe 7 flashes back to pure stock using LGNPST and the LGE970AT-01-V20j-310-410-MAR-08-2013 ROM (the stock one), after all that flashing torture I put this LGOG through, as soon as I put that other SIM card in it - which is not active at this time - and powered up the phone I got an LTE signal right off the bat without a problem. Had already made the APN changes to fast.t-mobile.com so they just kicked right in and wham, 4G LTE right there on the status bar.
And yes, the SIM cards are the same "series" (?!?!) with TM9190 imprinted on both of them - they also have the same code on the front side (620048) and their serial numbers are just a few digits off in sequence - like I said, I bought both of them with the same order so, it stands to reason they'd be from the same batch.
Loaded a few web pages on the T-Mobile prepaid billing site (it's what comes up when you insert a prepaid already activated but not presently in use SIM, very limited but it does work), checked the system stats, everything showed me I was connected to T-Mobile with their LTE service, this phone, and that other SIM card including the status bar icon being the traditional 4G LTE one (big 4, little G, little LTE under it).
Then I rebooted the phone and that was that, the LTE capability just up and vanished like a fart in the wind, and I've done most everything that I could do - including reading a few hundred posts in two dozen threads - to get it functional again and it just doesn't work anymore.
I suppose it's not a big deal to me since T-Mobile's HSPA+ is fine with me, I regularly pull in 10-15Mbps on a speed test in various locations (was out earlier today testing stuff in the eastern parts of Vegas), but I am somewhat pissed that I am unable to get that LTE functionality working again.
Tried:
- a complete stock flash, several times, of the AT&T JB ROM, no dice
- all the currently available LTE-capable radios, no dice
- an AT&T SIM but it's not provisioned so it doesn't work at all (T-Mobile doesn't do that, hrmmm... their SIM cards work months later even after the number has been assigned to another customer, go figure)
- all the hidden menu options (3854#*970#, WCDMA automatic, tried forcing LTE only, several other things), no dice
- tried manually setting LTE only with *#*#4636#*#* using custom ROMs, no dice
- adding the LTE enabling lines to build.prop, no dice
Nothing works, so I'm only left to conclude that either a) T-Mobile is doing something funky (highly unlikely), b) something is borked with the phone (potentially true), or maybe c) the phone is doing something to the SIM cards after a reboot or any change in the network mode from LTE to anything else (leaning towards this possibility more).
I can't explain it, I can't figure it out, and I can't get LTE working anymore but as I said, the HSPA+ is enough for me as here at home the LTE signal is somewhat weak (1-2 bars at best whereas HSPA+ pulls in 5 bars and a -61dB signal almost constantly).
I wish I could figure it out because I'd like to do more testing with LTE enabled but apparently once LTE gets disabled for whatever reason after having it actually working, not once but twice now it just dies and never becomes possible again.
Stranger things I suppose...
If anyone does ever figure this fiasco out, post whatever solution you came up with or discovered so the rest of us can give it a shot as well 'cause I'd love to be able to enable LTE if I so chose. This is pretty frustrating in the long run - if it never ever worked at all that would be one thing, but having it work then suddenly just disappear never to work the same again, that's just pooched.
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Thanks for posting your experiences. I've had the exact same problem, though I've never been able to get LTE working at all with my phone. I'm planning on taking a trip to a T-Mobile location within the next few days and see what they can do. Maybe they'll let me try putting my SIM in some of their display phones to see if I can get an LTE connection. Then at least I could probably rule out the SIM as the problem.
643121 said:
Thanks for posting your experiences. I've had the exact same problem, though I've never been able to get LTE working at all with my phone. I'm planning on taking a trip to a T-Mobile location within the next few days and see what they can do. Maybe they'll let me try putting my SIM in some of their display phones to see if I can get an LTE connection. Then at least I could probably rule out the SIM as the problem.
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Make sure that your phone has the fast.t-mobile.com APN info in place (just create a new APN with that info if needed, maybe call it T-Mobile LTE and see what happens. My guess is if they put a new unused SIM into your phone it'll most likely kick into 4G LTE right from the start (as long as the APN is in place) and then at some point it'll switch to HSPA+ and it'll never go back like it has for those of us that have noticed it.
Who knows... it's probably just one of those things.
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Make sure that your phone has the fast.t-mobile.com APN info in place (just create a new APN with that info if needed, maybe call it T-Mobile LTE and see what happens. My guess is if they put a new unused SIM into your phone it'll most likely kick into 4G LTE right from the start (as long as the APN is in place) and then at some point it'll switch to HSPA+ and it'll never go back like it has for those of us that have noticed it.
Who knows... it's probably just one of those things.
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Could be...I've always had my settings on T-Mobile LTE, and I even called T-Mobile and confirmed every field in the settings with them. When I explained that I still couldn't get LTE, they had no other solution for me. The lady on the line didn't even know that LTE was faster than HSPA+, so I wasn't exactly expecting any sort of resolution. I think the reps in-store will be more suited to this type of issue.
Can this be done? I ask because I am using the T-Mobile version on AT&T. LTE reception is not bad, it just can be better, especially in low signal areas? Does anyone have any information flashing the G900A modem for T-Mobile? I have searched and can't seem to find anything on this.
Radio and antenna wise, I believe they are the same device specs, so not like a number of years ago where there were antenna differences between them. T-Mobile radio supports all of T-Mobile and AT&T, AT&T radio however only partially supports T-Mobile (NO 4G AWS band, more limited LTE)
There are a number of people that have compared the two variants and no significant reception differences have been found
MattMJB0188 said:
Can this be done? I ask because I am using the T-Mobile version on AT&T. LTE reception is not bad, it just can be better, especially in low signal areas? Does anyone have any information flashing the G900A modem for T-Mobile? I have searched and can't seem to find anything on this.
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risestar2 said:
Radio and antenna wise, I believe they are the same device specs, so not like a number of years ago where there were antenna differences between them. T-Mobile radio supports all of T-Mobile and AT&T, AT&T radio however only partially supports T-Mobile (NO 4G AWS band, more limited LTE)
There are a number of people that have compared the two variants and no significant reception differences have been found
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Right. I understand that. But what I was asking if we could extract the AT&T modem from the G900A (AT&T Branded S5) and flash it on the T-Mobile S5 (G900T). That way the frequencies would be better optimized.
Now my T-Mobile S5 did pick up Band 4 LTE on AT&T and reception was excellent. This is mostly due to the fact that T-Mobile natively uses band 4 for LTE.
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Right. I understand that. But what I was asking if we could extract the AT&T modem from the G900A (AT&T Branded S5) and flash it on the T-Mobile S5 (G900T). That way the frequencies would be better optimized.
Now my T-Mobile S5 did pick up Band 4 LTE on AT&T and reception was excellent. This is mostly due to the fact that T-Mobile natively uses band 4 for LTE.
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I doubt that has any effect at all. Frequencies don't get optimized at least not on your end. I think the phone does have a priority list for which bands to use but it automatically switches when one is better than the other.
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luigi311 said:
I doubt that has any effect at all. Frequencies don't get optimized at least not on your end. I think the phone does have a priority list for which bands to use but it automatically switches when one is better than the other.
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I don't know about that. Perhaps it is not "optimizing" but carriers definitely do something to their modems on smartphones to make them work best with their networks. While the T-Mobile S5 works almost flawlessly on AT&T, the AT&T S5 still gets better reception. Perhaps the difference is negligible, but its there.
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I don't know about that. Perhaps it is not "optimizing" but carriers definitely do something to their modems on smartphones to make them work best with their networks. While the T-Mobile S5 works almost flawlessly on AT&T, the AT&T S5 still gets better reception. Perhaps the difference is negligible, but its there.
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have you compared both side by side?
kawaiichi said:
have you compared both side by side?
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I am comparing my signal with the T-Mobile S5 from what I experienced on the AT&T S5. While signal difference in good reception areas is not noticeable, signal in lower reception areas is much weaker. The AT&T S5 would send texts messages almost 95% of the time at my work. With the T-Mobile S5, I am getting about a 10% success rate on text messages being sent.
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I am comparing my signal with the T-Mobile S5 from what I experienced on the AT&T S5. While signal difference in good reception areas is not noticeable, signal in lower reception areas is much weaker. The AT&T S5 would send texts messages almost 95% of the time at my work. With the T-Mobile S5, I am getting about a 10% success rate on text messages being sent.
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Yeah that's what I mean. But nonetheless, I still love the phone and this really isn't an issue the majority of the time. Hopefully soon, we can flash an AT&T modem.
MattMJB0188 said:
Yeah that's what I mean. But nonetheless, I still love the phone and this really isn't an issue the majority of the time. Hopefully soon, we can flash an AT&T modem.
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The only way I have been able to increase texts going through successfully is by toggling airplane mode. I guess we will have to use that as a work around.
Having an AT&T modem on the Tmobile variant will make the device better handle connecting to LTE/HSPA networks and the phone will switch between frequencies them more efficiently. Now, I don't know if that's possible without bricking the phone.
daraj said:
Having an AT&T modem on the Tmobile variant will make the device better handle connecting to LTE/HSPA networks and the phone will switch between frequencies them more efficiently. Now, I don't know if that's possible without bricking the phone.
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I think some guy did it with the Note 3. But thing is, the AT&T modem on the S5 has not been extracted.
MattMJB0188 said:
I think some guy did it with the Note 3. But thing is, the AT&T modem on the S5 has not been extracted.
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Extracting the AT&T modem is not a problem I can get it quickly using the stock firmware file. But, still i think it will brick your tmobile s5.
daraj said:
Extracting the AT&T modem is not a problem I can get it quickly using the stock firmware file. But, still i think it will brick your tmobile s5.
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How so? Would it be the same as flashing a T-Mobile modem?
slimc84 said:
I am comparing my signal with the T-Mobile S5 from what I experienced on the AT&T S5. While signal difference in good reception areas is not noticeable, signal in lower reception areas is much weaker. The AT&T S5 would send texts messages almost 95% of the time at my work. With the T-Mobile S5, I am getting about a 10% success rate on text messages being sent.
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There's your answer right there. T-Mobile released a patch today to deal with poor SMS/MMS or texting issues. Doubt it has anything to do with signal.
Flash the latest T-Mobile update and then see it perform as you'd expect.
SeaFractor said:
There's your answer right there. T-Mobile released a patch today to deal with poor SMS/MMS or texting issues. Doubt it has anything to do with signal.
Flash the latest T-Mobile update and then see it perform as you'd expect.
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How so? Would it be the same as flashing a T-Mobile modem?
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Well i was looking to this this with my t mobile s5 with no luck. like another guy said, in good signal areas signal doesnt change but i am in a bad signal area a lot and my phone jst doesnt switch frequecies like it should. I been using att on t mobile phones for a while and installing the att modem but with this one im having some trouble. i have the att modem.bin but when flashing it i get a bootloader response error
You're lucky to get an error and the bin file didn't flash! Please read and search more. There are many threads on xda about similar attempt types. Device-specific modem files cannot and should not be flashed on other devices. They are hardware specific and will cause your phone to stop working if you manage to get it to flash.
Setting up ATT APN settings will suffice for those using att Sim in a sm-g900t.
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Commodore 64 said:
You're lucky to get an error and the bin file didn't flash! Please read and search more. There are many threads on xda about similar attempt types. Device-specific modem files cannot and should not be flashed on other devices. They are hardware specific and will cause your phone to stop working if you manage to get it to flash.
Setting up ATT APN settings will suffice for those using att Sim in a sm-g900t.
Sent from my SM-G900T using XDA Free mobile app
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Yes i realize the risk, and I'm actually not too worried about them. I don't at all think the phone will stop working, however I still can't get the modem on here anyway. I have tried the tar, and bin with no luck. If anybody is willing to put something together I'm willing to test it out. Fortunately in my line of work, it wouldn't be a big deal to get another S5.
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Jtrain88 said:
Yes i realize the risk, and I'm actually not too worried about them. I don't at all think the phone will stop working, however I still can't get the modem on here anyway. I have tried the tar, and bin with no luck. If anybody is willing to put something together I'm willing to test it out. Fortunately in my line of work, it wouldn't be a big deal to get another S5.
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Commodore 64 said:
You're lucky to get an error and the bin file didn't flash! Please read and search more. There are many threads on xda about similar attempt types. Device-specific modem files cannot and should not be flashed on other devices. They are hardware specific and will cause your phone to stop working if you manage to get it to flash.
Setting up ATT APN settings will suffice for those using att Sim in a sm-g900t.
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I have made all the proper backups. Not to mention I'm not a noob to this, having built a few Roms myself.
Jtrain88 said:
Yes i realize the risk, and I'm actually not too worried about them. I don't at all think the phone will stop working, however I still can't get the modem on here anyway. I have tried the tar, and bin with no luck. If anybody is willing to put something together I'm willing to test it out. Fortunately in my line of work, it wouldn't be a big deal to get another S5.
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have made all the proper backups. Not to mention I'm not a noob to this, having built a few Roms myself.
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If it's not taking in Odin, then I really don't think its going to work. Odin is like the master of all things Samsung for end users. The S5 has a lot of tampering prevention measurements made by Samsung. It wouldn't surprise me if the bootloader is doing a reference check with the modem to see if the modem matches the bootloader.
Also, I wouldn't go about flashing full ATT tar files to the T-Mobile S5. The partition tables are now different in the Galaxy S5 variants when in previous models they were the same. So flashing the ATT full tar could lead to your download mode being wiped.
What exactly is your problem? When you say "not switching frequencies" what exactly do you mean? Like going from LTE to HSPA+ or HSPA+ to LTE etc.
I have created an xposed module for myself that allows me to quickly switch my network preference at ease using a widget. I may share that once I tidy it up a bit. If your issue is being able to switch between HSPA+ LTE 2G etc then the widget should help you. I only use it to force 4G when in a low 4G environment or to force LTE when in low LTE environment.
BTW: What line of work do you do that you can simply get another S5? I'm jealous
elesbb said:
If it's not taking in Odin, then I really don't think its going to work. Odin is like the master of all things Samsung for end users. The S5 has a lot of tampering prevention measurements made by Samsung. It wouldn't surprise me if the bootloader is doing a reference check with the modem to see if the modem matches the bootloader.
Also, I wouldn't go about flashing full ATT tar files to the T-Mobile S5. The partition tables are now different in the Galaxy S5 variants when in previous models they were the same. So flashing the ATT full tar could lead to your download mode being wiped.
What exactly is your problem? When you say "not switching frequencies" what exactly do you mean? Like going from LTE to HSPA+ or HSPA+ to LTE etc.
I have created an xposed module for myself that allows me to quickly switch my network preference at ease using a widget. I may share that once I tidy it up a bit. If your issue is being able to switch between HSPA+ LTE 2G etc then the widget should help you. I only use it to force 4G when in a low 4G environment or to force LTE when in low LTE environment.
BTW: What line of work do you do that you can simply get another S5? I'm jealous
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Yes I definitely wouldn't go as far as flashing att tar.... And sometimes when I lose signal it takes a heck of a lot longer to gain it back ad t mobile basebands as opposed to art ones. I get another phone about every month and a half to two months so I've definitely tested around on and and also yes when it switches from lte to hspa+ etc it doesn't switch it like any att phone I've had. Takes longer.
And as far as my line of work goes I just mean that I would be able to afford another one if this one broke.
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Yes I definitely wouldn't go as far as flashing att tar.... And sometimes when I lose signal it takes a heck of a lot longer to gain it back ad t mobile basebands as opposed to art ones. I get another phone about every month and a half to two months so I've definitely tested around on and and also yes when it switches from lte to hspa+ etc it doesn't switch it like any att phone I've had. Takes longer.
And as far as my line of work goes I just mean that I would be able to afford another one if this one broke.
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Might be taking longer due to the different radios. Weird though cause if it has an ATT sim and ATT APN configuration, it shouldn't have any delay and function like an ATT phone.
And yeah I'm jealous you can afford a new one if you broke this one takes me a year to save up in order to buy my next upgrade.
I've seen others post about this issue. Here's what I've observed, and what I just sent to LG. Be sure to let them know this needs to be fixed!
"I have owned a G5 RS988 (Android 7.0) for 3 weeks, and am disappointed in its cellular reception on Cricket Wireless, which uses the AT&T network.
The RS988 frequently drops from LTE to HSPA connectivity. In my area, using the same SIM card, other phones ALWAYS maintain an LTE connection.
I believe that the problem is the G5 will not use Band 17, even though the specifications list Band 17. Using a monitor app on a Nexus 5X and my G5 while I travel locally (both using Cricket SIM cards), I find that the Nexus selects from Bands 2, 4, 5 and 17, and stays linked via LTE. The G5 selects from Bands 2, 4, and 5 only, and frequently drops to HSPA.
I hope you already know of this problem (it is being discussed on forums frequently) and have plans to update the software to solve it.
Thank you for your attention to this issue. "
Cellular signal -LG G5 RS988 vs Nexus 5X - same time, same place
I'm assuming you've already set up and selected the cricket wireless APN as follows:
Go to Settings, More, Mobile networks, Access point names, and hit + to add the new APN as bellow, then Save it, and select it.
Name: Internet
APN: ndo
MMSC: http://mmsc.aiowireless.net
MMS Proxy: proxy.aiowireless.net
Multimedia Message Port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 150
APN type: default,mms,fota,hipri,supl
APN protocol: IPv4
APN roaming protocol: IPv4
Turn APN on/off: ON
If you've already done this, then you can try a "Network reset" with your sim card removed. After the network reset and reboot, enter your WiFi password, turn off the phone, re-insert the SIM, turn on the phone, and verify the correct APN is selected.
Hope it helps!
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Thanks for your idea, C64. I had clicked the configuration link Cricket sent to me when I first powered up with the SIM installed, and never checked the APN settings.
I did find some differences and will edit them. I'll post my results here.
I just noticed a new post in the AT&T LG G5 Q&A forum in which the writer is having very similar issues. Numerous "me too" comments follow the OP. I assume these folks are using the AT&T model, not the RS988, and they are on AT&T, so that seems to indicate the problem more wide-spread.
I hope the G5 is not so far back in LG's rear-view mirror that they have no interest in solving this!
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I'm assuming you've already set up and selected the cricket wireless APN as follows:
Go to Settings, More, Mobile networks, Access point names, and hit + to add the new APN as bellow, then Save it, and select it.
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Hope it helps!
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RS988 Problems
I've also noticed this and contacted LG about it. Definitely has to do with the update from Android 6 to Android 7. I actually went so far as to purchase a second RS988 and not allow it to update, and if I run them side by side, the updated version won't see band 17, which is widely used in my area (by ATT). I expect this is what your seeing as well. I also suffer from frequent drops, because of the location of the towers and signal strength. I've contacted LG twice, both times they denied knowledge of the problem, and only offered to send the phone in for repair. Two weeks without the phone is what they said for timing. I just got an OS update, thought it might address this, but it didn't.
Let me know if you find an alternative to sending in for repair.
Thanks for the input. After seeing your results and several others, I have no doubt the problem is built into the Nougat image for the RS988, and possibly for the AT&T G5 version as well.
I didn't contact LG tech support, because I knew their standard response would be, "never heard of this problem, send your phone in for repair". (Of course, not criticizing just LG here, this is standard for all tech support these days.) But sending it in would deprive me of the phone for 2 weeks or more, risk actual damage in the process, cause me to rebuild my apps and phone after they reset it, and accomplish nothing except (maybe) receiving the phone back with Marshmallow on it. Even if all bands show up on Marshmallow, I really don't want to pass up on the Nougat upgrade - there are too many benefits to miss out on.
So I made sure to register a complaint at LG customer service: http://www.lg.com/us/support/chat-and-email-information. Don't know if it will go anywhere, but rep promised it would be forwarded up the chain.
I'm finding that where I live, I'm getting by okay on the mostly LTE, occasionally HSPA signals I'm seeing. But I had one instance of no cellular signal at all (neither phone nor data) while in a medical building in an important part of town. If that was not just a fluke, it is a problem. Still investigating.
This is clearly a software blunder, not a hardware problem. So it can probably be fixed fairly easily during an update. The question is, without a massive number of complaints, does LG care to fix it on a phone is no longer their flagship?
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I've also noticed this and contacted LG about it. Definitely has to do with the update from Android 6 to Android 7. I actually went so far as to purchase a second RS988 and not allow it to update, and if I run them side by side, the updated version won't see band 17, which is widely used in my area (by ATT). I expect this is what your seeing as well. I also suffer from frequent drops, because of the location of the towers and signal strength. I've contacted LG twice, both times they denied knowledge of the problem, and only offered to send the phone in for repair. Two weeks without the phone is what they said for timing. I just got an OS update, thought it might address this, but it didn't.
Let me know if you find an alternative to sending in for repair.
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barotropic said:
Cellular signal -LG G5 RS988 vs Nexus 5X - same time, same place
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I thought you should get an H820 instead if you stuck with Cricket.
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I thought you should get an H820 instead if you stuck with Cricket.
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The RS988 is the unlocked North American model of the G5, and has all the sensors and specs to be fully compatible with the AT&T/Cricket network, as well as with Verizon, and mostly compatible with TMo.
Being unlocked gives it many advantages over the AT&T model. I've suffered being AT&T's hostage with 2 previous carrier-locked, flagship phones - bloatware, locked bootloaders, slow updates, and downright broken updates which weren't fixed for weeks. Guess I'm a slow learner, but I finally vowed "never again!".
The problem being discussed here is apparently a software error introduced with Nougat by LG. The phone has Band 17 capability, which is very important on the AT&T network. It apparently used that band perfectly while running Marshmallow, but does not do so with Nougat.
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The problem being discussed here is apparently a software error introduced with Nougat by LG. The phone has Band 17 capability, which is very important on the AT&T network. It apparently used that band perfectly while running Marshmallow, but does not do so with Nougat.
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if this is software related, do you think trying a 3rd party rom could resolve the issue?
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if this is software related, do you think trying a 3rd party rom could resolve the issue?
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Possibly. But, as you know, the custom ROM's usually come with issues of their own - camera problems, GPS ,etc.
I've heard many reports that LTE was solid on the AT&T network before Nougat. I think I would find a way to go back to Marshmallow if it were a big enough problem for me. But 80% LTE / 20% HSPA is working okay for me, at least temporarily.
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Possibly. But, as you know, the custom ROM's usually come with issues of their own - camera problems, GPS ,etc.
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curious, have you installed the update? maybe this is related the this issues in this comment https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/rs988-software-update-21c-t3663768/page2
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curious, have you installed the update? maybe this is related the this issues in this comment https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/rs988-software-update-21c-t3663768/page2
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Thanks for pointing out that thread; I hadn't noticed. Yes, I installed 21c when it came out (a week ago?). I haven't noticed a change in behavior, but haven't been looking much either.
Sitting at my desk this morning, I'm still seeing HSPA on Band 5, where the Nexus 5X always has LTE on Band 17. So I doubt it's fixed, but I'll check it carefully while I'm out and about today.
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