Possible "Bad Batch" of Logitech 12.2 keyboards? - Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 Accessories

In the past month, I have tried twice to buy a "new" Logitech Note Pro 12.2 folio keyboard. The first, from Ebay, arrived and I touched its keys and immediately heard a weird crunching noise. The keys would not really even depress. It was obvious to me the keyboard was a retread... packaged to look new but horribly faux repaired. I sent it back for a refund. So then I went to Amazon, and bought one from Amazon. Unbelievably, it too was obviously a badly repaired and repackaged broken keyboard -- the right shift key was actually coming off, and underneath it a bunch of glue and white plastic preventing the key from even depressing. I just contacted Amazon and am returning it immediately. I really want one of these... they are on sale all over the place for around 46 bucks (give or take). But I'm very wary at this stage of buying any of 'em. Sigh....
Update: Just bought a kinda raggy taggy one for 35 bucks from a guy who'd actually used it. It has some wear, but at least the keys will work. Anyway, just a heads-up for others looking.

That was a good price as BestBuy is asking $93.99 now.

Did you buy them from Logitech, or a random seller?
In my experience you should always buy these things in a sealed box from an official reseller store. And if they're 50% cheaper than the retail store, that's never without a reason....

ShadowLea said:
Did you buy them from Logitech, or a random seller?
In my experience you should always buy these things in a sealed box from an official reseller store. And if they're 50% cheaper than the retail store, that's never without a reason....
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I do tend to live on the ragged edge. A missionary's budget doesn't allow for a lot of squeaky-clean geekdom. The two keyboards purchased were from resellers, but large ones -- one actually sponsored directly by Amazon.
This last purchase, counter-intuitively perhaps, I have made intentionally from someone who is selling their keyboard they personally used. At least that way I know it works. Cheapest they are new is near 100 bucks, even now. Will let everyone know if the keyboard works for me. Heh.
Just be careful out there buyin'.
Blessings.
jon

Keyboard came, works fine.

My first keyboard years ago had a hidden flaw that took a year for me to notice. The sync button was broken. I bought a used one for $33 and it works fine.

got a new one directly from Logitech and it had a broken Bluetooth button. They sent me a new one and I opened the faulty one to see if i could fix it. I have to say I wasn't impressed with the flimsy nature of the button & switch.

Uh oh. I just ordered an ebay one. I'll keep my fingers crossed until it arrives.
Edit: I got mine and it seems fine. It was sold by seller: winnerauctions for $41.99 and he's got more than 10 left to sell for anyone interested. Mine didn't come with an instruction manual or the original cable, just a generic cable and the keyboard wrapped in bubble wrap. But it works and seems not to have the issues others have mentioned above.

Just picked up one on ebay for $30 shipped. Hopefully no issues I can't work around. Did notice there are A LOT of them up on ebay for $40 or less listed as refurbs. Can only assume Logitech does have issues with these.

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Where to buy Stylus?

Hey guys just wondering, since i recently just lost one of the stylus......(And im pretty upset about it to) that just leaves me with one. So, my question is, does anyone know where, i can buy one or one of those 3-pack of stylus?
Here: Ebay rocks!!
Thanks alot man, just bought me a 3 pack for less than $7.00. NICE......compared to what i would have had to have paid through other companies
For the British amongst us, eBay UK also has some low cost ones here: Touch HD Magnetic Stylus
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For the British amongst us, eBay UK also has some low cost ones here: Touch HD Magnetic Stylus
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Dude, thanks for that link. I'd lost one of my styli in a car accident (long story) and so I was thinking about going to HTC direct. Just bought two from that UK eBay seller for £2.49 each with free shipping
Happy as a pig in poo.
I miss-placed the one that comes in the phone a few weeks back, not sure where or how(it was after I got the new case). forgot that a spare is provided in the box and was wondering where I can get a replacement if I can't find the lost one, I'm in the uk so might order 1 or 2 from ashcan's link.
Source for good quality stylus?
Anybody know a good source to buy a higher quality stylus than the stuff sold on Ebay? I bought a 5 pack on Ebay and they are all broken, they are made very cheap and break very easily. Also my Noreve case tends to pull out the stylus each time you remove the phone so I tend to loose some that way too I am looking for the non-magnetic version of the stylus. Thanks.
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. .....I'd lost one of my styli in a car accident (long story)....
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I guess we'd better not ask about it then...
Sorry had to do this...
Grtz Remko
redrazr7791 said:
Hey guys just wondering, since i recently just lost one of the stylus......(And im pretty upset about it to) that just leaves me with one. So, my question is, does anyone know where, i can buy one or one of those 3-pack of stylus?
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Try here http://www.netimes.com/shop/replacement-stylus-for-htc-touch-hd-t8282-p-1573.html?cPath=80_612
Brando Stylus?
Whatever you do don't buy Brando! Worse than Ebay, at least the cheap Ebay stuff lasts a couple days, few weeks. Brando is even cheaper quality. I just got 3 for which I paid allot of money from Brando Hong Kong, the top is very cheap plastic and they are are breaking/falling apart, the whole stylus very cheaply built.
redrazr7791 said:
Hey guys just wondering, since i recently just lost one of the stylus......(And im pretty upset about it to) that just leaves me with one. So, my question is, does anyone know where, i can buy one or one of those 3-pack of stylus?
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A stylus for use in the car with SatNav
There's a universal tethered stylus on eBay for use with touch-screen mobiles or SatNavs in cars.:
Tethered Stylus
I've got one and it is good quality.
c6638746 said:
Anybody know a good source to buy a higher quality stylus than the stuff sold on Ebay? I bought a 5 pack on Ebay and they are all broken, they are made very cheap and break very easily. Also my Noreve case tends to pull out the stylus each time you remove the phone so I tend to loose some that way too I am looking for the non-magnetic version of the stylus. Thanks.
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I think you will find that the so-called "Non-Magnetic" versions of the Touch HD stylus on eBay and elsewhere are actually inferior copies that unlike the orignals, have slightly enlarged plastic tops.
Yes, they do stay in the slot as they are a tight fit but it wasn't deliberate by design. It's to stop them shooting back out as the magnets have been fitted in reversed polarity
Incidenatlly I'd beware of buying ANY stylus on eBay thats sold in quantity as it usually indcates a cheap quality. Also, ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS check an eBay seller's feedback before buying. The top listed seller currently selling cheap HD Touch stylus copies on eBay has thousands of negative feedbacks yet people are STILL buying them ???
Mobile Brando...
I've found good ones on EBAY...
At first I was looking for non-magnetic so that my Noreve case would not pull them each time I remove the phone to put it in my car mount. But so far what I purchased on Ebay (non-magnetic 5 pack) and 3 Pack Brando Hong Kong (magnetic) has been very poor quality junk! I am just trying to buy original stylus now but who knows where to get those from since nobody selling these things tell you whether they are original HTC or cheap junk. I think I saw a 3 pack on expansys (mobileplanet) and I am going to assume those are good original quality but they are out of stock right now.
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I think you will find that the so-called "Non-Magnetic" versions of the Touch HD stylus on eBay and elsewhere are actually inferior copies that unlike the orignals, have slightly enlarged plastic tops.
Yes, they do stay in the slot as they are a tight fit but it wasn't deliberate by design. It's to stop them shooting back out as the magnets have been fitted in reversed polarity
Incidenatlly I'd beware of buying ANY stylus on eBay thats sold in quantity as it usually indcates a cheap quality. Also, ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS check an eBay seller's feedback before buying. The top listed seller currently selling cheap HD Touch stylus copies on eBay has thousands of negative feedbacks yet people are STILL buying them ???
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At first I was looking for non-magnetic so that my Noreve case would not pull them each time I remove the phone to put it in my car mount. But so far what I purchased on Ebay (non-magnetic 5 pack) and 3 Pack Brando Hong Kong (magnetic) has been very poor quality junk! I am just trying to buy original stylus now but who knows where to get those from since nobody selling these things tell you whether they are original HTC or cheap junk. I think I saw a 3 pack on expansys (mobileplanet) and I am going to assume those are good original quality but they are out of stock right now.
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Usually Expansys' quality is way better than any other dealers...
c6638746 said:
At first I was looking for non-magnetic so that my Noreve case would not pull them each time I remove the phone to put it in my car mount. But so far what I purchased on Ebay (non-magnetic 5 pack) and 3 Pack Brando Hong Kong (magnetic) has been very poor quality junk! I am just trying to buy original stylus now but who knows where to get those from since nobody selling these things tell you whether they are original HTC or cheap junk. I think I saw a 3 pack on expansys (mobileplanet) and I am going to assume those are good original quality but they are out of stock right now.
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Did you in fact check the feedback of the eBayers before buying these stylus? I've found that 99.9% of the time if an eBay seller is selling poor quality junk it is reflected in the seller's feedback.
Dont just look at the headline feedback percentage figure - if its not 100% check it more thoroughly. It amazing that a seller can in fact be showing 99.9% positive feedback but due to large volume sales can have thousands of negative feedbacks.
Just as FYI, I researched all of the sellers and this was the only site I found who were selling original HTC styli AND had them in stock in the United States:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=173044
I received the package today and they look exactly like the original ones, i.e. it has the small black tip, exact fitting plastic cap with small rectangular "bump" on the side, the magnet, etc. Yes they're expensive, but what can you do...

[Q] BestBuy SUX, Got any better ideas ?

I went to BB to see what accessories they had.
Can you say "Zero"?
Really.. Not one single item relating to the X10.
They should call it iBestiBuy. It's "i" whatever from wall to wall.
Any other sites I should check out ?
I am concerned about getting a skin as some are loose fitting and I'd like to see them in person.
I live in Michigan, USA.
Try Expansys or Amazon.
ebay is also a good place to look. I get my stuff from there.
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I went to BB to see what accessories they had.
Can you say "Zero"?
Really.. Not one single item relating to the X10.
They should call it iBestiBuy. It's "i" whatever from wall to wall.
Any other sites I should check out ?
I am concerned about getting a skin as some are loose fitting and I'd like to see them in person.
I live in Michigan, USA.
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Maybe Google?
Seriously - there is no universal place with best selection and prices both. I used to buy accessories at buy.com, amazon.com, ebay.com, some other virtually noname online sellers I found by Google search. Don't like online? No problem - you can try this model in some brick-and-mortar store with crazy prices. And buy it online. Anyway everything is "Made in China". The only problem - returning. That really sucks. But for now I was lucky. Look - once I bought a case for SE k790 in ebay store of one HK seller and it didn't fit. I wrote, since the description claimed this model for k790/800 and they answered that they'll send me another one for free - anything I like. I checked measurement of the phone and found a model that should fit. It was around 1/2 more expensive, but they sent it without any returns. I was impressed and always check them first. But now look like they are out of business - no website, no ebay store and a lot of negative feedbacks. So it is a little risky, but after some research it worth.
I know how you feel. Especially since they have the exclusive white x10 then it only makes sense that they carry x10 accessories. But of course, Sony Ericsson really isn't that well known over here, so what you'd find would be for Apple and...probably that's it. Joking aside, yeah, its a bummer. have you tried amazon though?
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I know how you feel. Especially since they have the exclusive white x10 then it only makes sense that they carry x10 accessories. But of course, Sony Ericsson really isn't that well known over here, so what you'd find would be for Apple and...probably that's it. Joking aside, yeah, its a bummer. have you tried amazon though?
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Apple's case perfectly fits my X10. I bought it around a year before X10 photos were leaked over the web. I love Apple - they are able to predict many new tends.
I mean belt's case or pouch or whatever marketing freaks name it, not skin.
By the way, try to find a difference (except price and pressed brandname LUXMO inside or outside) between some in one store:
$0.60 + $2.98 shipping - Apple Iphone 4gb 8gb 16gb 32gb
$0.33 + $2.98 shipping - just iPhone
$0.57 + $2.98 shipping - Verzion Motorola Droid A855
$1.69 + $2.98 shipping - Samsung BlackJack i607 or BlackJack 2 i617
$1.12 + $2.98 shipping - Motorola q9m Q9c Q Q9h
$2.80 + $2.98 shipping - Apple iPhone 1st & 2nd Generation including 2g 3g (4gb/8gb/16gb/32gb) (AT&T -ATT)
I like their notes about the internal memory most of all - it is really universal case from 4Gb up to 32Gb!!! Wanna case for another model - wait a minute - our representative put the sticker... errr... sorry - find a case specifically for your model. This is how online works.
I think you'll find exactly this model in regular store for from $10 up to $25. And try how it feels.
Up here in Canada the only place I'm ever able to find cases fir my x10 are at flea markets and sometimes at cellphone kiosks in the malls here.
Sent from my X10a v2.1 using swype
As of this month I have purchased the following accessories.
2 car chargers from Radio Shack, the cheaper ones.
1 windshield holder from ebay seller in Hong Kong. It has a short bent arm. Not good with very steep slopes. Phone needs to be plugged in when used as GPS so limited positions with car charger. Blocks view in smaller cars. I would rather have the one with the flexible arm instead for more possibilities.
2 Belkin usb to micro retractable cords. Microcenter
1 soft silicone case totally covers the sides of phone save camera and speakers and projects out 1/8th inch from screen like bumper. It's nice but the phone could be any phone. EBAY
1 hard rubber snap-on case with cutouts for buttons, camera and speakers. Finish on mold edges is not good. EBAY
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Cases/sleeves in Canada

Alright my fellow Canadians, if there are any, if you have a Prime you're probably just as pissed as I am about the lack of anything for this tablet up here and even more so I'm pissed at Amazon for refusing to ship anything here. SO, if you see anything for the TP in/available to Canada, post it up here
pretty sure there aren't any sleeves for the prime yet at all. I went to staples and bought a generic netbook 10.1 inch sleeve from targus. Its a little fat for the prime but I figure it'll fit in there much better when my keyboard arrives (if ever)
Basically. Just take your prime to an electronics store and see which sleeve it fits in
I'm waiting for my Prime, but I've been lurking on this sie for a case too. I was hoping to get that roo-case listed here from Amazon. I haven't tried to order it from Amazon.com, but I did read that they will ship to Canada.
What is their reason not to ship to you?
I noticed a few of the cases would ship from amazon.com to Canada - sadly, not all, but there is some selection.
So far every one on Amazon has refused to ship up here :-( just says sorry can't ship to your address
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda premium
Bummer.
Looks like another long wait.
I just checked again - all the rooCASEs and the MiniSuit one listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377669 ship to Canada sans problem (Toronto area at least). No dice for the Verteks, Moko, or Poetic ones.
Waiting to see what else shows up myself before just grabbing whats available, though.
i have got this one ,pics added.
took 3weeks from China,high quality and really good feels when holding it.
a free gift lucky clover in Apple,nice looking under light in dark.
fits samsung galaxy tab well.
i think also fit tab with dock,i put a book with galaxy tab together. see last two pics
long 280mm high 21mm
link http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150708353...53992&_sacat=See-All-Categories&_fvi=1&_rdc=1
Daltronn said:
I just checked again - all the rooCASEs and the MiniSuit one listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377669 ship to Canada sans problem (Toronto area at least). No dice for the Verteks, Moko, or Poetic ones.
Waiting to see what else shows up myself before just grabbing whats available, though.
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I should have said, all the ones I actually want won't ship here hahaha
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I should have said, all the ones I actually want won't ship here hahaha
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Yea, I can echo that statement, hah
I ordered this case off ebay. I dont even have the tablet yet but I wanted to be prepared.
case logic pls-9
I just got the case today and I must say, it is quite a nice case. It neoprene on the outside and suede on the inside with a pouch on the outside for storing cables and such as well as a small spot for a thumb drive.
If you are looking for a soft case with good padding I highly reccomend it.
I need to find this one MoKo(TM) Premium Quality Slim-Fit Folio Cover Case
Hey guys, after I emailed them to ask if they could ship here it's all of a sudden available for shipping
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0063Q3G3I/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
I just tried the link...it's not available until Jan 20.
Also $24.99 for shipping and only option is expedited 2-4 days.
Ouchie.
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I just tried the link...it's not available until Jan 20.
Also $24.99 for shipping and only option is expedited 2-4 days.
Ouchie.
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Yup. Shows the $5 shipping earlier but changes to $24.99 shipping in cart. Not worth it IMO.
renozz said:
I just tried the link...it's not available until Jan 20.
Also $24.99 for shipping and only option is expedited 2-4 days.
Ouchie.
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Yup. Shows the $5 shipping earlier but changes to $24.99 shipping in cart. Not worth it IMO.
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Hey guys, email them, you'll get it for next to nothing. Amazon has some stupid requirement that things have to arrive within like 5 - 10 days at max or something like that and the only way for them to meet that is to charge $25 expedited. If yoiu email them and say you're in Canada, the guy told me he'll ship it China Post but it won't be within to 5 -10 but I don't care.
Just email em direct, BCSstore or whatever, originally the guy said just order it, put a UK or China delivery address and tell him the order number with an address in CA and he'll change it. Try it out, I got mine with free shipping and expected delivery is like 10 - 15 I think. I asked the guy if others could email direct he said sure, only issue is availability of stock
On the other hand, wanted one of those matte HHI screen protectors, they sell a 3 pack for $12 and want $24 for shipping, emailed them, they basically told be to get bent
I use this one, got it at Bestbuy for about $9 too.
Not sure if it was the 9" or 10" version
but it fits perfectly even with the dock attached.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh78LIh2-Oo
I bought this case from Futureshop and it fits well.
Tucano Finatex 10"
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...spx?path=01bc42bce3cb207837454e115277bf6fen02
It has 2 compartments and the larger one is divided in half where the back half fits the prime alone quite well. The front half would fit the prime attached to the dock or the dock separately. The smaller compartment has a mini pocket in it to hold an iPod or phone sized device with a space for headphones to travel up the strap and exit near your shoulder.
The only thing I didn't like (it isn't specific to this case) is that the USB charger wall wart has no place to go that is not a danger to the screen if the bag gets squished.
2 pages and 20 days later and the OP is still absolutely right on track:
FunkyMcBain said:
Alright my fellow Canadians, if there are any, if you have a Prime you're probably just as pissed as I am about the lack of anything for this tablet up here and even more so I'm pissed at Amazon for refusing to ship anything here.
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I just can't believe how hard it is to find a sleeve/case that fits a minimum requirements.
I'd love to get the Moko, Verteks, Roocase, Vipertek, Blurex slim sleeves (the one at multi-angle, portrait only mode) as they all seem to have the necessary cutouts of ports and speaker, and would allow docking the keyboard without removing the sleeve.
Except, they are ALL unavailable on Amazon.com, and I can't find any of these anywhere else.
Only thing available are the kind of sleeves/cases which cover the front side areas of the tablets which to me, is a no go as these can not be used alongside a dock ; or those like the MiniSuit which doesn't have a stand for the tablet alone.
Worse than that, the same thing goes for the screen shields ! It's impossible to get one here in Canada.
I can't wait to start using my tablet all the time (and get rid of my aging netbook) but I'm just too afraid to scratch it.
Really frustrated at this situation. And I did spend at least 4-5 hours in the past 2-3 days researching all the above.

[Q] Where to buy dock cheap?

Hello,
In November there were a number of places selling the dock for 99$. Is this because of the older firmware? I am trying to find it cheaper right now but cannot really find anything less than 125 after shipping and taxes. Does anyone have any advice on where to find the dock cheaper maybe like 110?
i feel you OP, im in the same boat as you. saw the dock priced at $99 around black friday/xmas time. tried to hold out for some type of "better" deal possibly. Then right after saw the price shoot up to like $180 lmao. I couldnt believe it. As of right now we have 2 options. search ebay or craigslist for someone selling it for cheap or wait until amazon comes back down on the price. Ive been watching it since it jumped from $99 to $180. its been steadily coming down ever since and as you said
its about $125 now. we just have to wait a little longer
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i feel you OP, im in the same boat as you. saw the dock priced at $99 around black friday/xmas time. tried to hold out for some type of "better" deal possibly. Then right after saw the price shoot up to like $180 lmao. I couldnt believe it. As of right now we have 2 options. search ebay or craigslist for someone selling it for cheap or wait until amazon comes back down on the price. Ive been watching it since it jumped from $99 to $180. its been steadily coming down ever since and as you said
its about $125 now. we just have to wait a little longer
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yeah i guess you are right haha. thanks for the reply. man don't you hate that feeling tho when you miss a good deal? hahaha
I don't know how you feel about ordering from amazon but I would look on there. They have a Used - Like New Transformer Dock for 111.31 with Free Super Saver Shipping.
Taken from Amazons Condition Guidelines:
Like New: An apparently untouched computer item in perfect condition. The original plastic wrap may be missing, but the original packaging and software is intact. There are absolutely no signs of wear. Suitable for presenting as a gift.
Can't post the link since this is my first post
Enjoy!
there is a place on eBay selling refurbished docks for $99. I forget the name of the place, but it appears they had good ratings and lots of sales.
I saw it listed on gizmodo dealmodo today (actually it was the tf101 for $298 +shipping or the 32g version for $399 with free shipping) .
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I finally decided to order my Xformer today and got it from B&H for $250 (used)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/800836395-USE/ASUS_TF101_A1_16GB_Eee_Pad_Transformer.html/mode/edu
They are also selling used keyboards for $90...but I guess I got the last refurbished one cause its $118 now.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/761727-REG/ASUS_TF101_DOCKING_Eee_Pad_Transformer_Docking.html/mode/edu
The amazon marketplace sells the keyboard for $107 used.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004U78628/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&qid=1328491725&sr=8-1&condition=used

[Q] LG G3 CCH-320G case availability

I really want this case. Seems for some reason it is very rare and hard to find.
I ordered one a month ago from MyTrendyPhone.com and it has still not arrived. They sent me affidavit to sign that I just sent back. I have a feeling all I am going to get is a refund.
Anyone know where I can get this case in black?
Thanks,
Chad
First I got an email saying they would be shipping me a new one.
Then overnight I got an email saying they are sold out and offering me 20% off my next order under $40. Offered me a refund as well.
Why is this case in such sort supply? I don't have one yet, but it looks to be the best case out there. It replaces the back cover which adds less bulk, and has wireless charging built in.
I have not been able to get my hands on one either.
Finally got my refund from MyTrendyPhone.com, and have now placed an order with Expansys.com. They have it available. Also got the Quick Circle Wireless Charging case ,to see which one I like better.
CEVisk said:
Finally got my refund from MyTrendyPhone.com, and have now placed an order with Expansys.com. They have it available. Also got the Quick Circle Wireless Charging case ,to see which one I like better.
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Looks like they only have it in white?
Bought mine from Amazon.de Germany. Use chrome browser and it will translate. Choose other sellers and pick Amazon. Got it in about a week and a half for just under $40 including shipping.
MyTrendyPhone is a garbage company. Ordered from them too but never again. The Slim Guard case is absolutely the best case for the G3. I bought mine from Expansys and received it within a week. It is every bit worth the $45 or so that I paid and yes; it is very hard to find. Your best bet is maybe a secondhand off of eBay.
Does anyone know of anyone selling the black case unused?
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Does anyone know of anyone selling the black case unused?
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I just bought two (one for me and the other for my wife) from amazon.de but unfortunately the seller didn't ship to the USA so I had it sent to my cousins apartment in Germany and she forwarded me the package which I received today.
Some pictures to share...
just purchased from Amazon.fr. 42USD.
the only seller on the German Amazon that would ship to me would charge an exorbitant shipping fee.
I have got the uk version but getting shot of it as not for me. Prefer my supacase.

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