Hi all
my brother just bought LG V10 and the sound quality is great and so was mine until i started listening to music with V10
i know it has an extra sound chip but i really think that Z2 has the potential to be that good too
the question is how can i get the most audio quality with Z2 ?
which headphones do you recommend ?
i have the standard MH410c headphones that were in Z2 box , should i get the noise cancelling headphones ?
is there any software modification i can do ? (i currently use stock firmware but its rooted)
I bought the noise cancellation earphones and they are really good. The sound it's really great for me.
There are 3 things you can do as far as I know
-> Buy a better set of headphones
-> Buy a dac
-> Use software such as viper4android or sound mods.
In my opinion, you should start by fiddling with the software because a good pair of headphones is pretty expensive, and so are most dacs out there
Mokiwipeout said:
There are 3 things you can do as far as I know
-> Buy a better set of headphones
-> Buy a dac
-> Use software such as viper4android or sound mods.
In my opinion, you should start by fiddling with the software because a good pair of headphones is pretty expensive, and so are most dacs out there
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what headphones are recommended with z2 ?
sony noise cancelling ? or can i buy a pair of good yamaha headphones and expect improved quality too ?
Mokiwipeout said:
There are 3 things you can do as far as I know
-> Buy a better set of headphones
-> Buy a dac
-> Use software such as viper4android or sound mods.
In my opinion, you should start by fiddling with the software because a good pair of headphones is pretty expensive, and so are most dacs out there
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About DAC - if you want to use it, you should use digital connection between phone and DAC. How you gonna to do that? As far I know the only way to do that is connection by Wi-Fi or Bluetooth but if you choose A2DT you loose quality. I don't know any DAC with Wi-Fi connection. In iPods you just make line out cable and than connect DAC by that. I really want to know any line out before amplifier in Xperia.
Sound mods are good enough for speaker, but it's can't do better sound on poor headphones. Start with that. Of course you can try some mods, but I think, and I'm telling that as drummer and sound engineer, that can't really help. Built tools in our phones are just enough.
I recommend to try AKG K518. But if you want in-ear headphones you can try noise canceling sony ear buds. But that's one have a lot of high frequencies and built-in equalizer haven't enough bars to equalize it. I was using a lot shure E2C and ultimate ears fi but that's IEM (in ear monitors) so that's have nearly flat frequencies response with cut-down high frequencies.
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regarding bluetooth headset, Z2 supports APTX, which should make wireless audio via bluetooth sounds better. Of course, the headphone must supports it too.
If you are listening to mp3 files I don't think it's worth to get expensive earbuds. Just the Sony NC earbuds with Viper4Android FX. Guaranteed soundgasms!
You can use DAC with usb otg connection. I'm using Hifiman HM-101, you just need to connect it and it works. Sound quality and loudness of it is much better then internal Z2 sound chip.
Im using HTC Sensation XE earphones and the sound is very good. Depends on what music you listen to and do you like clear or bassy sound. These are christal clear, I turn off all sound enhancements and get really good experience.
Zspitter said:
what headphones are recommended with z2 ?
sony noise cancelling ? or can i buy a pair of good yamaha headphones and expect improved quality too ?
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Well, you are going to spend a lot of money if you want to buy a good pair of headphones...
Probably more than 50€...
Plus, the headphones that came with the phone are pretty sh!tty, save for their noise cancelling feature, which in my case is fairly useless anyway.
However, if you are intending on buying expensive headphones, make sure that they have either a fairly low impendance, or get a dac. The phone might not be able to drive the headphones, it is somewhat common with truly expensive headphones.
icegustpl said:
About DAC - if you want to use it, you should use digital connection between phone and DAC. How you gonna to do that? As far I know the only way to do that is connection by Wi-Fi or Bluetooth but if you choose A2DT you loose quality. I don't know any DAC with Wi-Fi connection. In iPods you just make line out cable and than connect DAC by that. I really want to know any line out before amplifier in Xperia.
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As another one said, there are USB OTG dacs too
But they are fairly expensive as far as I know
I use AKG Y50BT with APTX. Just a suggestion.
The basic earbuds without noisecanceling that come with the z2 have a terrible quality, Sony should be ashamed of themselves to include such worthless junk with a flagship product.
I bought the noisecanceling ones lately, just to try as they are for less than €30 including shipping on amazon and they do sound a lot better.
Still, earbuds and good sound quality just don't go together in my humble opinion. Although I have never tried high end earbuds, the sound of big 40 or 50mm headphones is just so much fuller and more complete that I cannot imagine those tiny things capable of that.
Plus that over ear models are a lot more comfortable if you listen for longer periods.
Use Xtreme music mod
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Hi,
any audiophile Guru out there to suggest for a great headset - best audio quality possible - allowing for FM radio and music control to keep the touch HD in the case?
I am asking this since i realized that my JABRA BT620s does work reasonably well, WITHOUT wires being A2DP, but the price to pay in quality and radio is simply too big....
PLMK
pzucchel said:
Hi,
any audiophile Guru out there to suggest for a great headset - best audio quality possible - allowing for FM radio and music control to keep the touch HD in the case?
I am asking this since i realized that my JABRA BT620s does work reasonably well, WITHOUT wires being A2DP, but the price to pay in quality and radio is simply too big....
PLMK
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Well, if you are after sound quarlity, hehe, go for Ultimate Ear 10 pro.
some shure or sennheiser headphones.. they are the best. I have one of both.. different type of headphones..
shure is in-ear, and sennheiser are typical headset.
cheers.
I just bought the Jabra BT530, read great reviews of it.
But overall, they say if u want the BEST Audio Quality, then u should buy this :
Aliph Jawbone 2
try googling for a review on that, and u will get an endless list of them!
hope this helps!
Hi to all,
after some web googling, i decided to make a good but reasonable step and purchased the Shure Se110 (black like The Stone).
Not only the quality is stellar with respect to the standard headset, but it is pretty easy to wear and in particular the FM radio works very well!
The sound is pretty loud and incredibly balanced. they don't crackle even with the highest dynamic ranges...
It has only one defect, in some respect: you don't hear anything anymore, so make a good life insurance when you walk your dog...
When at home I use my Technics RP-F290 and while mobile I use my Sennheiser CX300.
I use these [BOSE] - found them to be excellent
http://www.bose.co.uk/GB/en/home-en...o-headphones/bose-on-ear-headphones/index.jsp
I see there is now a version designed for use with mobile phones - has a mike and some controls built into the lead
These will blow your head off
If you are an audiophile and want the best sound and build quality in the world regardless of the price :
WESTONE 3
Shure SE530
Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10
DENON AH-D5000
AKG K 701
Grado RS-2
Sennheiser HD 650
Denon AH-D2000
Ultrasone HFI-2200
Monster Beats by Dr. Dre
Sennheiser IE 6
Bose® Mobile On-Ear Headset
Bang & Olufsen Earset 2
I VOTE FOR WESTONE 3
I've got Shure E2c for my "in move" devices. They sound quite good and didn't cost a fortune
NOBELOVE said:
If you are an audiophile and want the best sound and build quality in the world regardless of the price :
WESTONE 3
Shure SE530
Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10
DENON AH-D5000
AKG K 701
Grado RS-2
Sennheiser HD 650
Denon AH-D2000
Ultrasone HFI-2200
Monster Beats by Dr. Dre
Sennheiser IE 6
Bose® Mobile On-Ear Headset
Bang & Olufsen Earset 2
I VOTE FOR WESTONE 3
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I'm looking for a quality in-ear headset in the pricerange(with the same audio quality of course) of the Sennheiser IE6, but with a small microphone in it, like the original HTC-headset.
Is something like that in the market that is compatible with the HD? (so just for the 3.5mm output, no bluetooth)
Guus_ said:
Is something like that in the market that is compatible with the HD? (so just for the 3.5mm output, no bluetooth)
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http://store.shure.com/store/shure/en_US/DisplayCategoryProductListPage/categoryID.12165900
Guus_ said:
I'm looking for a quality in-ear headset in the pricerange(with the same audio quality of course) of the Sennheiser IE6, but with a small microphone in it, like the original HTC-headset.
Is something like that in the market that is compatible with the HD? (so just for the 3.5mm output, no bluetooth)
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google for:
WESTONE 3
Shure SE530
Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10
Sennheiser CX 380 Sport II
Sennheiser IE 6
Thanks for the reply's!
@lipa47: The Shure's look great! Does anyone know how the SE210MPA sounds compared to the Sennheiser IE6? And how is the cable quality in therms of durability? I see that the Sennheiser uses kevlar cable's.
@Nobelove: Sorry but i don't see any microphone's in those models?
Hey, how are you?
My advice to you would be to think about the HTC RC W100 wired remote control. You simply plug it into your device and its 3.5mm stereo socket means you can plug in any headphones you like. The sound quality from the mike is superb. It allows to control the volume, Forward/rewind, answer/end calls etc...
With regard to headphones, I use x3 types. I have a set of the latest Bang & Olufsen ear set phones which clip over your ear and are comfortable. I use them while cycling/jogging in London – I can answer the phone while on the move + can still hear ambient traffic noise even when listening to music/radio on a reasonable volume...
For flying I use the very excellent noise cancelling Sennheiser pxc350's - I thought the 450's were a little too flashy and not worth the extra cash for the button to talk to the air hostess...
I also have a set of the much smaller noise cancelling Sennheiser pxc250's which are very good - the noise cancelling works fine but not nearly as good as the 350's.
I have done a lot of research into this subject and would say spend money on your headphones. Also, no matter how clean you keep your ears, putting the in-ear phones in place after using them the previous day is not always the most pleasant experience.
I hope this helps.
Rgs,
J
Guus_ said:
Thanks for the reply's!
@lipa47: The Shure's look great! Does anyone know how the SE210MPA sounds compared to the Sennheiser IE6? And how is the cable quality in therms of durability? I see that the Sennheiser uses kevlar cable's.
@Nobelove: Sorry but i don't see any microphone's in those models?
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here you go
Sennheiser MM 50 iP
and for the rest you can use this adapter or use HTC RC W100 as justin advised.
and to answer your Q. Sennheiser IE6 is much better in sound quality
Thanks for the great reply's! I love this forum
In the last few hours I've read a lot of mini-reviews on the Shure's; half of them were negative in therms of durability and sound-quality(compared to other high-end in-ears). So the Shure's are off my list.
The HTC RC E100+Sennheiser IE6 looks like a great combi if the cable wasn't that long. The cable of the IE6 is 1.2 meter... So I think that I'll order the IE6 without the microphone, too bad that there isn't a good high end solution for this subject from Sennheiser... The Sennheiser MM50 are too low-end for me.
btw. The HTC RC W100 has been replaced by the RC E100. From what I can see is the only difference that the E100 got an headphone included.
Edit: I've just found the Etymotic Research HF2: http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/hf2.aspx
Does anyone have experience with this brand? It's completely new to me, but it looks like an great option.
If you are an audiophile and a first classer who cannot accept or go for any less than spectacular audio and Brilliant sound stage then stick with this list
WESTONE 3
Shure SE530
WESTONE 2
Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10
Guus_ said:
Thanks for the reply's!
@lipa47: The Shure's look great! Does anyone know how the SE210MPA sounds compared to the Sennheiser IE6? And how is the cable quality in therms of durability? I see that the Sennheiser uses kevlar cable's.
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I can say that I went through Sennheiser: mx400, cx300, px200, px100, and I finally sticked with Shure E2c. I use Sennheiser HD580 in home and I can say that in terms of durability and quality (cable etc.) those E2c are pretty good. Well maybe newer models are not that good By the way output in HD is not that good, there is lot of hiss.
Have any one tried the Sleek Audio SA6 In-Ear Earphones ???
How do they compare to WESTONE 3 and Shure SE530 ???
I do own the Plantronics Voyager 856, excelent bass!
You can use the BT headset mono or stereo by clipping of one earpiece.
Is the Z2 compatible with any other noise cancelling earphones besides the MDR NC31E?
I picked up a pair of these seperately (with the option to return). They are pretty nice so far (still wanting to test in noisier env) but @ $70 +tax i feel like i want to compare other alternatives...
the MDR-NC31E's are special because they themselves aren't noise canceling, they just have built in microphones, and the Z2 does the noise cancellation. Other noise canceling headphones have the technology built into the headphones themselves, and are universally compatible as long as it has a 3.5mm jack.
Could be working on Headphones which have Stereo Microphone ... But I've never heard about Stereo Microphone Headsets before ...
This might only change if Sonys Technology gets copied by other Vendors ... Would be great, cause it makes this technology open to the masses and much cheaper, while you can still choose to use the same headphones without NC.
se1000 said:
the MDR-NC31E's are special because they themselves aren't noise canceling, they just have built in microphones, and the Z2 does the noise cancellation. Other noise canceling headphones have the technology built into the headphones themselves, and are universally compatible as long as it has a 3.5mm jack.
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yeah i guess that was my real question, if there were other vendors out there making earphones with stereo mics. on the ears no less heh.
fat chance of that i guess.
Bose quietcomfort 15 is the way to go if you live headphones with noise canceling.
unfortunately my Z2 doesn't comes with the noise cancelling headset and just the regular cheap low-quality headset, any alternatives or any specific models you can recommend?
DrearierJester1 said:
unfortunately my Z2 doesn't comes with the noise cancelling headset and just the regular cheap low-quality headset, any alternatives or any specific models you can recommend?
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Sony MH1C is a great headset if you don"t mind noise cancelling.
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Sony MH1C is a great headset if you don"t mind noise cancelling.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I actually came across with this one. Hopefully the Mic will work. Its a Razer Hammerhead Pro In-ear Headset for Gaming and Music.
Source: http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-audio/razer-hammerhead-pro
Using N6P for the last few days, N6P sound output from the headphone jack is poor, it gets loud but quality is lacking, N6P doesn’t even have the power to drive high efficiency headphones (high sensitivity (dbl/mW or dbl/W) and low impedance (ohms)), I listen on my Triple Fi 10 headphones (Input Sensitivity - 117dB/mW; Impedance - 32 ohms) and the sound quality is disappointing.
I am coming from N6, N6 has very good sound quality from the headphone jack, N6 has the power to drive my Triple Fi 10 and doesn’t need an Amp.
PhoneArena measured the N6 at .98 volts and the 6P is .34 volts, for comparison IP6+ is 1.014 volts
See below comments from Head-fi forum about the poor sound quality:
“The 6P's sound is extremely forward and punchy, but has a real digital grittiness to it. Almost like running through a preamp with the gain wound up too far, with a weird high mid resonance that eventually becomes fatiguing. The weird grit sort of reminds me of my motherboard's onboard Realtek sound, from circa mid-2000s. It feels like the frequency response is not flat at all, I'm expecting tests to show a big peak around high mids to low treble. It's kind of like listening on cheap earbuds.”
http://www.head-fi.org/t/785067/nexus-5x-and-6p-sound-quality/30
I hate to return N6P as I love the phone otherwise, but sound quality is very important to me as I listen to music a lot.
The 6p has so many strong points, wouldn't it be worth using a headphone amp instead of returning the entire thing? Obviously that won't solve audio quality, but investing in an iPod or a walkman isn't too bad when your then able to use IMO the best android phone of 2015...
Get high quality Bluetooth headset. I have jaybird x2 and sounds beautiful connected.
Jamie bell said:
The 6p has so many strong points, wouldn't it be worth using a headphone amp instead of returning the entire thing? Obviously that won't solve audio quality, but investing in an iPod or a walkman isn't too bad when your then able to use IMO the best android phone of 2015...
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Must listen to this guy.
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I couldn't tell you the last time I plugged in headphones... No to wires!
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Only use them on airplanes!
im very happy with my Nexus 6P and headphone jack sound quality with my vmoda headphones. I use poweramp to listen to music and used one of the apps preset equalizers, sound quality is great to me, I've also used it during phones calls and it sounds just fine.
ga9213 said:
Get high quality Bluetooth headset. I have jaybird x2 and sounds beautiful connected.
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I couldn't tell you the last time I plugged in headphones... No to wires!
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Bluetooth is not there yet in terms of music quality, I have tried and returned 10 -12 bluetooth headphones in the last year including Jay bird x, they are no match to the good quality wired headsets like my Triple Fi 10, you won’t get any sound stage on Bluetooth headphones.
Sony’s new high resolution Bluetooth headphones are promising but it needs LDAC codec support on the phone, also these headphones are expensive at $399.
I wonder if someday we will see a pair of cans sporting USB-C with an inline Digital to Analog converter. There would be many benefits to this really. I could see a trackpad that supports gestures or scrobbling, etc.
I understand that as for high end audiophile one can spend thousands in the pursuit of audio bliss. But as for my common daily use my 6P with Viper and my JayBird X and Bose sounds is just fine:good::good::good:
Get poweramp and apply these settings.
People still use those headphone jacks? Hmmm... Interesting
anglerstock said:
Get poweramp and apply these settings.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but software enhancements mostly ruins music experience, I prefer to listen the music the way musician intended to..
I used poweramp but prefer Neutron - the best music player on Android..
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People still use those headphone jacks? Hmmm... Interesting
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yes...only if you listen to real music..and have a discerning ears..
droidguy22 said:
yes...only if you listen to real music..and have a discerning ears..
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Real music you say? Lol so those with discerning ears don't use Bluetooth? #snobbery
If you wish to listen to music "as musicians intended" then you can only get inside their collective heads to hear it. Everything else is influenced and changed by acoustics, recording, engineering and production.
Jamie bell said:
The 6p has so many strong points, wouldn't it be worth using a headphone amp instead of returning the entire thing? Obviously that won't solve audio quality, but investing in an iPod or a walkman isn't too bad when your then able to use IMO the best android phone of 2015...
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agree that 6p has many strong points, but amp defeats the portability, a premium phone ($700 - 128gb with tax) in 2015 should give a decent sound quality, what's the point of 128gb storage if it can't output decent sound.
kboya said:
If you wish to listen to music "as musicians intended" then you can only get inside their collective heads to hear it. Everything else is influenced and changed by acoustics, recording, engineering and production.
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the way you described is not possible, that's why you want to buy a device with better DAC and use good quality headphones and you can be as close as possible to the musicians intent..
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Real music you say? Lol so those with discerning ears don't use Bluetooth? #snobbery
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you are not so bright, are you?
Why Bluetooth Audio Used To (and Still Largely) Sucks:
The problem with Bluetooth audio has always been digital compression: in order to send your audio to your headphones, you were forced to sacrifice quality. Traditionally, especially on older devices and with older Bluetooth versions, this meant the sound was so badly compressed that the result sounded robotic, buzzy, noisy, and all around awful. Listening to podcasts and spoken word through them wasn't a big deal, but when it came to music, they were just the worst. You got none of the richness or warmth of sound that a pair of wired headphones offers.
if you're the type who really enjoys listening—and I mean actively listening—to music on high-quality headphones, and you use terms like "soundstage" and "frequency response" to judge one pair of headphones over another, you may be disappointed, especially when you compare your wireless listening experience to a wired one.
http://lifehacker.com/does-bluetooth-audio-still-suck-1505063323
droidguy22 said:
the way you described is not possible, that's why you want to buy a device with better DAC and use good quality headphones and you can be as close as possible to the musicians intent..
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My comment was not a flame. The difference is that I see all this as impossible for the very reasons I gave. Perhaps Steve Albini can make this clearer: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep05/articles/albini.htm
Guys,
What are the new supplied headphones like in quality for sound and overall design?
Also Just found this site selling the "official headphones" £29.99 is anyone looking for spare.
http://www.digitalsave.co.uk/offici...-kardon.html?gclid=CPm31oHFtdMCFWwo0wod6jsBIw
Personally, i found them to fit brilliantly, very comfortable, and to me ( i am not a audiophile sorry to say) sound really good, thank you for the link.
Likewise i thought they were a good fit, plus the sound from them sounded (to me) really good with lots of bass that you tend not to get with other stock headphones in ear that i have tried, but im no audiophile either.
As an audiophile I found them to be quite decent for stock headphones. The sound quality is definitely good. I haven't yet had the time to change the ear tips to fit my ears and test if they fall off easy or anything. That being said, I might stick to Bose earphones.
After reading that they are expensive, I was hoping for a way better experience. I like the EarPods/Airpods from Apple way more.
They have way more bass than my B&O headphones I got with the V20. I like'em
AKG Earbuds
YellowGTO said:
They have way more bass than my B&O headphones I got with the V20. I like'em
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That makes me very happy to hear. The main reason I didn't purchase the V2O when it came out was I'd missed out on the pre-order and wouldn't be getting the B&O earbuds. I'm very happy with the AKG set that came with the phone, and really looking forward the the BT AKG headphones I just ordered this morning. That and the memory card I'm looking forward to, along with VR headset / controller.
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They have way more bass than my B&O headphones I got with the V20. I like'em
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I felt the sound quality was crystal clear. Treble and vocals are crisp but bass was on disappointing side. It isn't as punchier as the one's we get with HTC One series. Maybe I need to tweak equalizer more to get that heavier bass but default settings didn't sound deep enough. Again, I maybe wrong.
I'm pretty sure this is one more of those cases where you get a practically different product for different markets, but the ones I got in Serbia are pretty crappy :/ I'm no audiophile, but compared to my cheap Xiaomi Piston 3, these are so tinny, low-volume and just plain bad I was actually thrilled when I saw them, tried them right away, but just put them back in the box after 2 minutes...
They're not bad. Pretty clear high end and decent mids but somewhat underwhelming low-end. Still better than the buds that came with my S6E and Galaxy Tab 4 7.0.
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I felt the sound quality was crystal clear. Treble and vocals are crisp but bass was on disappointing side. It isn't as punchier as the one's we get with HTC One series. Maybe I need to tweak equalizer more to get that heavier bass but default settings didn't sound deep enough. Again, I maybe wrong.
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I agree. The clarity is great. They def lack bass though. Not bad for free tho. And I appreciate the fabric overlay on the cord
choccy31 said:
Guys,
What are the new supplied headphones like in quality for sound and overall design?
Also Just found this site selling the "official headphones" £29.99 is anyone looking for spare.
http://www.digitalsave.co.uk/offici...-kardon.html?gclid=CPm31oHFtdMCFWwo0wod6jsBIw
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I learned a while ago not to trust loose Samsung headsets.
I've bought replacements for 2 different Samsung "included" headsets, and in both cases the originally included headset sounded great while the replacements sounded cheap.
Their sound profile is slightly U shaped with emphasize on the bass & highs. Not really neutral or truly high end but by far the best stock earphones that I've ever heard.
I'm a musician and I own Sennheiser HD650, HD600, Shure SE425, Etymotic ER4P & AKG K702 with several dedicated headphone amps, so I know what I'm talking about...
I persoanlly think these headphones are the best of any inbox headphones I've ever used and I've used a lot.
Dont forget to use the equaliser aswell it can enhance the sounds for more clarity base and so on.
To be honest, they sound good but are poor in quality. They're cheap plastic and the right one on my pair has driver flex like crazy.
These AKG headphones are ip68/waterproof or not ?
I thought the stunk when I first tried them. I use PowerAmp and found that I had to go in and adjust the equalizer for both headphones and BT.
Very Happy Now!
I deleted Google Play Music before realizing that it was the default music player for the S8 series. I would assume it needs the same tweaks as Power Amp.
Do all the US variants S8's come with the AKG's in box?
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They sound pretty good. But far behind my Bose QC30
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Do all the US variants S8's come with the AKG's in box?
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Yep all do
Hi - So my S20+ had an included the buds+ as freebie, before this I've never owned any of these "truly wireless" buds. My last bluetooth earphones was a Samsung level U (free from S7 edge). So my question, are these "truly wireless" type earphones really horrendous in terms of sound quality? Would the airpods pro/non-pro or other higher end buds come close to the free akg ones? Or all of these buds are really on a separate low class of there own?
If I have to arrange my earphones in order of sound quality and put spaces/underscores to emphasize the difference
free akg (from S20) ______ Level U __ some old $20 sennheiser earphones i have ___________________________________________________________ buds+
** To audiophiles and other sound enthusiasts, I know all of these are garbage tier in the earphone/headset universe. **
khein said:
Hi - So my S20+ had an included the buds+ as freebie, before this I've never owned any of these "truly wireless" buds. My last bluetooth earphones was a Samsung level U (free from S7 edge). So my question, are these "truly wireless" type earphones really horrendous in terms of sound quality? Would the airpods pro/non-pro or other higher end buds come close to the free akg ones? Or all of these buds are really on a separate low class of there own?
If I have to arrange my earphones in order of sound quality and put spaces/underscores to emphasize the difference
free akg (from S20) ______ Level U __ some old $20 sennheiser earphones i have ___________________________________________________________ buds+
** To audiophiles and other sound enthusiasts, I know all of these are garbage tier in the earphone/headset universe. **
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Both is good. Not the best out there but it's not bad.
S20 comes with adapt sound.. Personalize it and create profile for buds+ and akg Wired earphone. If tweaked properly both sounds great.
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Love the earbuds +, lovely quality sound on them and you can tweak certain things using the Samsung Wearables app.
I can also adjust things via the Poweramp app which is my default music player.
I got the Buds+ as part of my pre-order, so in anticipation of these arriving i sold the Huawei Freebuds 2 Pro that i had (and loved). Regretted it the moment the Buds+ landed and tested them. No-where near as good as advertised.
Bass quality was poor, wouldn't stay in my ears, and found them uncomfortable. I have since sold the Buds, and bought a set of Huawei Freebuds 3 to replace them. Much happier
jonboi said:
I got the Buds+ as part of my pre-order, so in anticipation of these arriving i sold the Huawei Freebuds 2 Pro that i had (and loved). Regretted it the moment the Buds+ landed and tested them. No-where near as good as advertised.
Bass quality was poor, wouldn't stay in my ears, and found them uncomfortable. I have since sold the Buds, and bought a set of Huawei Freebuds 3 to replace them. Much happier
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Yeah I agree bass is bad. But i do love the feature to allow outside noise to enter the earbud. Makes it very useful in airports so u can hear announcements.
Before that I was on wired nakamichi NEP-MV18, it's a dual driver earphone with very very very good sound quality. Now seeing s20 don't have headphone jack in using that only on my pc.
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Buds+ are, in fact, one of the best wireless headphones you can buy.
See some measurements: https://www.rtings.com/headphones/t...-wf-1000xm3/1791/917?usage=9287&threshold=0.1
Radek Hulán said:
Buds+ are, in fact, one of the best wireless headphones you can buy.
See some measurements: https://www.rtings.com/headphones/t...-wf-1000xm3/1791/917?usage=9287&threshold=0.1
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Measurements mean nothing when it comes to the true user experience. I found them to lack audio quality where it matters. The Freebuds3 i'm now using are far better.
Of course measurements are important ****ty headphones never measure well... I'm using myself €1,100 headphones, custom made Harmony 8.2 in-ears from Custom Art, with 8 drivers in each enclosure, but Buds+ are very decent as well, using them for sport, and measurements prove it.
Radek Hulán said:
Of course measurements are important ****ty headphones never measure well... I'm using myself €1,100 headphones, custom made Harmony 8.2 in-ears from Custom Art, with 8 drivers in each enclosure, but Buds+ are very decent as well, using them for sport, and measurements prove it.
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I don't need measurements to hear what is good or not. To me, the Buds+ were crap, not as advertised, so i got rid of them.
Depends what you prefer...
Measurements will show you headphones are or aren't able to play whole spectrum, from 50Hz to 20kHz, with no dips and spikes.
But you might prefer emphasized mids or bass, not precise sound (e.g.)
Radek Hulán said:
Depends what you prefer...
Measurements will show you headphones are or aren't able to play whole spectrum, from 50Hz to 20kHz, with no dips and spikes.
But you might prefer emphasized mids or bass, not precise sound (e.g.)
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Different ppl have different needs.
When I was younger, my car ice was tuned to emphasize on bass.. And those gigantic passive subwoofers and amplifiers..
My amps only power the subwoofers and not the speakers.
Now, I have a active subwoofer, a way better set of speakers and tweeters.. And amps connected to speakers and tuned differently.
Buds+ might be good for some, not so good for others.
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IMHO, I find the Buds+ very good, AFTER setting up a good equalizer, not the wear app one.
My music player (Stellio) has a great one, so I can enjoy a really good sound.
But I think they can't be sound lovers usable when out-of-the-box...
dd66 said:
IMHO, I find the Buds+ very good, AFTER setting up a good equalizer, not the wear app one.
My music player (Stellio) has a great one, so I can enjoy a really good sound.
But I think they can't be sound lovers usable when out-of-the-box...
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I would recommend you give this a try. Adapt sound from the phones sound settings.
Just by this itself the sound quality improved a lot. Then adjust the equalizer of your music player to make it even better.
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I would recommend you give this a try. Adapt sound from the phones sound settings.
Just by this itself the sound quality improved a lot. Then adjust the equalizer of your music player to make it even better.
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Can you take a screen shot of your custom settings?
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Can you take a screen shot of your custom settings?
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It's not settings at all, just run the Adapt sound process in a quiet environnement with your buds on and it will define it all by itself.
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Can you take a screen shot of your custom settings?
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Here you go. But yes you'll need to set it up. Go to a quiet place, it will play several tones at different frequency and adjust it accordingly.
I've set up a profile for buds+ and a different profile for my in car entertaiment unit.
And yes dolby is switched on for both.
The Samsung equalizers don't come close to the Poweramp equalizer.
If you're using the Buds you'll want to use Poweramp to dail them in.
I didn't like the wired AKG's that came with my 10+ at all.
can you post your settings for poweramp equalizer, also used buds + sounds great but i just increase everything in adapt sound profile.
chwads2k8 said:
can you post your settings for poweramp equalizer, also used buds + sounds great but i just increase everything in adapt sound profile.
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Try to avoid using 2 equalizers as it can add a lot of distortion. Poweramp has an excellent equalizer.
I sometimes "boost" my Poweramp EQ with the Wearables one, setting it to dynamic depending on the song. The Wearables EQ by itself though doesn't cut it.
The Buds and Buds+ have different EQ controls and aren't interchangeable. Both lack low end bass.
EQ settings are very individual and based on your unique hearing perception and preferences.
Generally though for the Buds, jack up the lower bass range especially the last sliders.
Try to make a linear transition across the sliders to form a smooth curve; abrupt heavy one band settings can lead to poorer quality sound. Center the curve starting from 0 db ie don't jack all bands beyond O db.
Turn on the limiter function to avoid clipping especially with the low bass.
This is one of my profiles for the Buds+
My thoughts. The galaxy buds+ are one of the best wireless buds available at its price point, comparable to the airpods pro. Each has there positives and negatives, if you run android tho, its an easy choice. I've tried both on both hardware (S20, i11 pro) and I personally prefer the buds+, but to each there own.
That being said.. the included AKG headphones are AMAZING, and for being included in the box, in my books beat out both... well because they're free. In my usage they also offer deeper lows and more tru mids. No matter which type of wireless ear buds I try, those are 2 things always missing.
Audio though is extremely subjective, so what I think is great, you and others may think is trash. Just dont go with airpods, you WILL be disappointed.