So, I've tried every which rom out there for the nexus 6p and got tired of dealing with sub par battery life, random hangs (albeit occasionally, but precisely when I needed it to not lag) and other issues. I even tried having 100% stock but with custom recovery and systemless root. Somehow though they were nice for a while they started to slow down and act up after a while. Finally I decided to go back to stock. Fastbooted and flashed stock from Google servers and even locked the bootloader and unchecked "allow unlocking".
I can honestly say that ever since then I've had zero issues and battery life has been phenomenal. No random lags or freezes or drain.
Perhaps this is how google wants the device to be used and stock Android has something in our that works properly only on a 100% factory set software.
Yea I miss the ios style emojis and ad bocker but at least now I can be rest assured about ota updates and using the device in the way google intended and thus having the best experience??
Also I think xposed is slowing down marshmallow and giving it some issues after a while.
What do you guys think ?
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Using a Stock based ROM with root, Adblocker and some Bloatware removed works the best for me. I remember Xposed to be buggy since Android 5, this is why I never used it again. Flashing Updates is not a big deal if you know how to use fastboot and how to flash single parts of a factory image.
Same here dude I have had android phones since the g1 rooted so many. I even remember when Franco was starting out lol. But with the nexus 6p I feel stock is the best experience I have tried a few ROMs but stock is great for this device... Don't get me wrong I feel I need to sometimes try a rom but I don't as it's a hassle now. 100% stock here.
I'm a happy custom rom flasher! Rocking with Chroma for now & like Sinless .. XDA Development for the win!
I'm using Pure Nexus with no issues whatsoever. It's essentially the stock ROM with a few goodies added.
That's where I'm at too. Tethering works, Android pay works, I have no problems with battery. Couldn't be better. I do miss some of the root/ROM features like center clock, different pictures on lock and home, double tap to wake and sleep though
Pure nexus works for me. But yea each phone will be a little different.
Agreed.. I buy nexus so I DON'T have to root to get that experience.
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Absolutely not my experience. Used the phone about one month with stock ROM and flashed Chroma ROM and Franco's kernel then. First thing I noticed was the device running much cooler!! Not a single problem here...
Hmmm pure nexus with ak gives you much better performance and battery than stock.... On screwd at the moment. Also very good
Stock is stock the way the device was intended to be used. Any changes will come from the source, "customize" someone else's work lol..... Riiiiighhhht
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Cleva1 said:
Stock is stock the way the device was intended to be used. Any changes will come from the source, "customize" someone else's work lol..... Riiiiighhhht
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To what are you referring? Your post doesn't make much sense. Not saying that to be rude, just trying to understand what you're saying.
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Finally I decided to go back to stock. Fastbooted and flashed stock from Google servers and even locked the bootloader and unchecked "allow unlocking".
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If you are happy with pure stock, that's great. May I suggest unlocking that bootloader though. I've read about a couple guys where an OTA failed for whatever reason and the phone will not boot. With a locked bootloader, you have no hope of fixing it.
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If you are happy with pure stock, that's great. May I suggest unlocking that bootloader though. I've read about a couple guys where an OTA failed for whatever reason and the phone will not boot. With a locked bootloader, you have no hope of fixing it.
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I second this.
Battery for me has been the same. Also that white background settings UI I hate, black background just looks so much better
Opinion I know but it's an option is lose without root
Kinda Agree.. I'm on Chroma's Rom and not rooted. I like Chroma's subtle additional settings and stock kernel plus the Phone runs great. I will only load roms that use stock kernel because of lag and additional rom anomalies that happen when i need to do something...Ugh!
Choose your apps carefully, is my advice.
If you want to use facebook/messenger. Go for tinfoil or something like that instead. Also, disable the google apps you don't use. Maps can also be done with the browser and is one of the primary battery drains for example. Just like i noticed that since i disabled chrome and went for a chromium browser, battery life has gone up! Same with swiftkey instead of google keyboard, ecspecially with a nice black skin.
And yeah, use the drawer and dock for shortcuts, don't clog your homescreen with icons and widgets. That saves memory and thus battery power.
The thing i don't get though, is that with my z1 on 4.4.4 i could easily get 3 days with 5/6 hours screen on time. I really have to do my best to get that on my 6p. Even though the battery is 500 mah larger!
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If you are happy with pure stock, that's great. May I suggest unlocking that bootloader though. I've read about a couple guys where an OTA failed for whatever reason and the phone will not boot. With a locked bootloader, you have no hope of fixing it.
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Thanks for the tip. That makes sense. Perhaps when ota update comes in and updates the factory recovery, it needs the "allow unlock" button checked.
Maybe that's why it was checked by default after factory reset.
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after messing with my custom build i ended up flashing stock, rooted and added clear all recents to the systemui apk
thats all i need
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Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
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Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
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You can stop those with Autostarts (free in the market), and requires root. It prevents them from opening at all. If you end up checking it out, use the "after startup" disable option.
- Root required apps (there a lot of really good ones - this alone would be enough for me to root).
If you're not interested in theming, or a lot of modifications, then stock is cool. Features, changes, and modifications from custom roms can be patched to stock roms; the only advantage of using custom ones is that they're baked in for you.
I am sticking on stock rom for now, just going to root so I can restore a lot of my old apps, nothing more.
I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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CMW b3 seems to be flawless so far!
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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Fair enough but there will be several ICS Roms months before official AT&T. (I am typing from my ICS Captivate right now for example). Plus you can always flash back to stock.
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I was stock from best buy to my house and that's it and I can't wait till I can get a sub 100mb ROM onto here. The bloat is sickening and even after removing down to mid 100 it's still not performing to it's non touchwiz potential.
Just to throw in my two-cents, I am fairly impressed as well with the Touchwiz 4.0 interface. Coming from an Atrix (blur) and Inspire (sense), touchwiz is a big step up imo. It feels like gingerbread done right to me. Although it isn't without a few issues, like the slight but noticable lag (to be fair all stock roms seem to stutter a bit occasionally), the no wallpaper scrolling and no landscape mode for the touchwiz launcher.
I think it will be interesting to see what devs or even Samsung/AT&T come up with to merge Touchwiz and ICS. It's gonna be a good year in the ROM community on this phone I can feel it.
Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
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Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
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Yeah but... stock IS a ROM, too.
I think it is a great thing that this phone is so good that we can use it stock. Haven't got mine yet but I only plan to Root it and use stock for a few weeks, at least.
So far yes
Right now there really aren't that many roms for the galaxy note lte so I'm going to wait until ICS comes out play with that for a while then I'll be flashing away!
I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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^That, less the o/c kernel. The performance boost isn't exacted necessary, but you WILL notice it.
I was going to try and stick with the stock ROM as long as possible. However, my addiction got the best of me, and im now laying in bed at the end of my first full day with my Note, and I'm running TPC2 with Da_G's OC kernel. Go figure. Haha.
Not that I was having troubles with the stock ROM, as it was actually really smooth and lag free for the most part. On the other hand, now my Note is an absolute beast. The Note is definitely the first Android I've been happy with out of the box, but I would still rather be running a custom ROM, if not just so I can tell people it's running custom software when I show them my phone.
Samsung really hit it out of the park with this phone. I will never look at a smaller phone the same way again. Forever ruined! And I find the SPen to be really comfy for just navigating my phone and precision of selection. Swyping is fun with it.
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I think it's not necessary for me to do anything yet. But don't get me wrong, I will root the phone eventually. I have a real problem with ATT telling me that I "have" to suffer software I don't want on MY phone. That in its self encourages me to root. But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would affect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days (window of time for return) is up.
I flashed roms daily on my Inspire, but I am stock now and planning on staying that way forever or at least until If leaks. the only thing I've done is root to disable ads and remove bloatware.
I'm still stock. I've rooted and jailbrake-ed other phones. I really like this one the way it is. The bloatware etc don't bother me much. I may root after ICS. For now, my Note rocks pretty hard just the way it is.
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But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would effect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days is up.
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Are you asking if root will affect upgrading to ICS? The answer to that is no. If you flash a custom ROM then that answer is yes. You would need to go back to stock ROM for the ICS update from ATT. However, there will be ICS ROMs here well before ATT releases it.
What's the 30 days thing? Not getting that part. What happens in 30 days? Maybe you mean the window to return your Note. I agree you might want to wait for that to expire before root. But you can also un-root if you want.
I'm on stock rom and don't plan to root anytime soon for both of my devices the note and gnex!
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I just got back home with my shiny new S4 and I can't wait to get the thing rooted and rom'd. But! Before I take the dive, I'd like to test the waters of this lovely phone's community.
If you have a few minutes to spare:
- What rom/kernel are you using? Why?
- What is one thing that you wish you knew about the S4 before flashing?
Thanks!
- EJ
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I just got back home with my shiny new S4 and I can't wait to get the thing rooted and rom'd. But! Before I take the dive, I'd like to test the waters of this lovely phone's community.
If you have a few minutes to spare:
- What rom/kernel are you using? Why?
- What is one thing that you wish you knew about the S4 before flashing?
Thanks!
- EJ
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Before you get to excited, you might want to check what firmware version you have.
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Before you get to excited, you might want to check what firmware version you have.
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That was painfully vague. Care to elaborate?
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That was painfully vague. Care to elaborate?
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As far as I know (which I'm not 100%sure since I'm on mdk) you cannot flash custom roms yet if on the latest update (mj7 with Android 4.3) If you're lucky enough (unlikely) to get one with me7 firmware, you can flash custom roms with safestrap. This phone is not doing so well in the development area as I expected it would before release. Hopefully someone can figure out a way around the locked down bootloader
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That was painfully vague. Care to elaborate?
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That makes it painfully obvious that you haven't read much around here.
What you first need to know is what firmware version you have. That determines what you can do.
What you asked is equivalent to saying that you have a car then asking what you can do to improve it - no data on what year or model, or what you want to do. Without that info, how can anyone help you? If you can't even be bothered to figure out what build you have to start with, nobody can suggest anything to help you.
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As far as I know (which I'm not 100%sure since I'm on mdk) you cannot flash custom roms yet if on the latest update (mj7 with Android 4.3) If you're lucky enough (unlikely) to get one with me7 firmware, you can flash custom roms with safestrap. This phone is not doing so well in the development area as I expected it would before release. Hopefully someone can figure out a way around the locked down bootloader
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I managed to figure that out a couple minutes ago. I actually got pushed to ME7 while I was rooting my S4 (ironic?) and was able to stop it after that. So, it seems I was one of the lucky(ish) ones. Would've been nice to stay at MDK, but SafeStrap seems to be one hell of a tool.
.Ejekt said:
I just got back home with my shiny new S4 and I can't wait to get the thing rooted and rom'd. But! Before I take the dive, I'd like to test the waters of this lovely phone's community.
If you have a few minutes to spare:
- What rom/kernel are you using? Why?
- What is one thing that you wish you knew about the S4 before flashing?
Thanks!
- EJ
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Hey there... I remember you from the Fascinate forums. I finally ended up getting an S4 about 2 1/2 months ago and for the most part it's a great device, but you can't expect near the same freedom as you had with the Fascinate.
When I got mine I ended up with ME7 so it sounds like you're in the same boat. I have mine rooted, but decided not to use Safestrap because of the limitations it brings (mainly the storage issue). I'm pretty happy with how I have mine set up and it's pretty snappy overall, but I really do wish I had gotten an MDK in order to really flash roms like I used to on my Fascinate.
If you choose to use Safestrap then go nuts and I hope you find some roms you like (Hyperdrive seems to get the most love around here from what I've noticed). I'll just quickly list off the modifications I did to mine that got it to where I like it:
-Froze all bloat with Titanium, including the SDM 1.0 (to prevent unwanted updates)
-Got rid of e911 icon and ongoing WiFi notification
-Installed the International Voice Dialer with call recording
-Installed Volume Boost mod (increased it around 50% over stock)
-Installed Xposed Framework so I could use Greenify features
-Used Greenify to hibernate all misbehaving apps (examples would be Facebook and Google Play Store) (... this increased battery life A LOT)
-Installed AdAway (adblocker)
-Turned all animations down to .5 in developer options and disabled all hovering effects on the lock screen
Doing all that really made this thing a lot better than it was, but I'm still hoping for a true bootloader unlock to start playing with it more. I have found a lot of the Touchwiz features to be quite useful, like the voice control stuff, camera app, etc, so I would probably stick with a modded Touchwiz rom if I had the option. Good luck.
edit: Oh and another thing you might not be aware of - the camera is set to 9.5MP by default in the app, you need to go into settings to use the native 13MP resolution.
One thing to note that no one mentioned (and in case you didn't read elsewhere) is that with SafeStrap you can not use ROMs with custom kernels. So that means no AOSP based ROMs like CM, Carbon, PACman and others since they are all using a custom kernel. At least until they get KEXEC working with SafeStrap (if they get it working). So basically you can only use modded TW roms with a stock kernel.
are these newer android phones giving more reasons to stay stock? I have found with the G2 that I have no want (or need) right now to root/ROM this phone. Usually when I get a new phone the first thing I do is root it, clear all that carrier crap out, or simply flash CM for that stock android experience; I just have not found that need with the G2.
So, what is the point of this thread?
I want to know everyone's thoughts about this. Are you rooted...are you stock....and why you are or are not?
If you are rooted, I would also like to know what ROM/Kernel/etc you are running.
Thanks!
I am rooted but on stock everything else.
I mainly rooted for Titanium Backup and other root enabled apps like AdBlock and Greenify. Beyond that, stock is sufficient for me.
Stock unrooted. Since greenify is avaliable without root I kinda found no real reason to root. The only thing I really want is the dual window option from LG g flex. Maybe also to try out dorimanx kernel for undervolting and messing around a bit.
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Stock unrooted. Since greenify is avaliable without root I kinda found no real reason to root. The only thing I really want is the dual window option from LG g flex. Maybe also to try out dorimanx kernel for undervolting and messing around a bit.
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The main reason I usually root/rom is for speed and battery life....as we all know the G2 doesnt lack anything in either. I use the greenify beta as well and have noticed a huge difference in my battery life. The only thing tempting me to root is Titanium Backup but I have been fighting it because I'm so damn happy with the phone as it sits.
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I am rooted but on stock everything else.
I mainly rooted for Titanium Backup and other root enabled apps like AdBlock and Greenify. Beyond that, stock is sufficient for me.
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andydumi said:
I am rooted but on stock everything else.
I mainly rooted for Titanium Backup and other root enabled apps like AdBlock and Greenify. Beyond that, stock is sufficient for me.
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Link for adblock? Or at least point me in right direction
Root + Flex rom + Custom kernel
Why?
I like stock rom (UI and feature) but flex rom is better (Black UI + more feature)
I'm rooted and stock. Stock rocks. I'm also running g2 xposed. With this you have all the customizations on aosp but on stock Rom
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Xenovias said:
Root + Flex rom + Custom kernel
Why?
I like stock rom (UI and feature) but flex rom is better (Black UI + more feature)
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if there was a Flex rom for the Sprint variant, I would probably reconsider. Althoughhhh I am running the LG Flex theme thru LG's theme manager which gives me a somewhat similar look to the Flex.
I like the stock ROM with xposed, but now I'm on AOSP, because micro stuttering on stock started to bug me, even if it was barely noticeable.
thoughts....
Flashing is so played out for me. A new feature gets added and something else breaks and needs to be fixed...repeat.
.....At this point just root and do your own thing(s).
But I have not did anything to this phone, it works just fine.
I'm stuck but rooted with a few xposed modules, adblock and of course the camera mod. Now it's perfect! Never been this happy with a device. I played with AOSP kk and that was fun for awhile. I came from a gnex previously, which I loved despite the shortcomings.
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I have 3x VS980s. Two are happy with being 100% stock.
I rooted mine from day1, but stayed with stock-based ROM for a month as I was happy with stockLG (I can satisfy my flashing urges with
my N7) ... Then I decided to explore the latest/greatest of Android on this phone... I would never go back to stock and don't even care when/if LG
would release a stock 4.4.x (OK, maybe we need the new OEM kernel source).
ROM+gapps are normally ~200MB instead of a huge download.
I get to try so many features out .. I can switch to other ROM (or even my Stock) Backups in a few minutes, if my mood changes.
Not that I fully need those features ... just the feeling of doing things freely.
I'm currently staying with Mahdi ... lean, fast, so-many-features, no issues (I had some freezes/reboots on early releases, still no biggies then).
DirtyUnicorns is great too, but may need some little time to smooth out the little bugs
Played around like 3 days with roms, i turned into a flashaholic, flex, non flex, tried so many roms and at the end of this, im on stock rooted now. i bought G2 Xposed (0,70 € - definitely worth!) and now it looks cool, its fast, stable, what else do i need? Darker UI? For what exactly? I actually using apps and not the starving at the settings and think "wow cool, its dark". no need, really. im pretty happy currently with full stock rooted. the next days i will customize my homescreen a bit and then its ready. just wait for 4.4
YOLO
Stock, rooted, debloated, xposed to get rid of GPS and dual wifi/lte notifications.
I'm coming from the HTC Rezound. I usually go for CM, but am very impressed with the LG interface. I have been tempted to try a flex Rom, but am happy having a phone that everything works, and has amazing battery life.
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tylerjames09 said:
if there was a Flex rom for the Sprint variant, I would probably reconsider. Althoughhhh I am running the LG Flex theme thru LG's theme manager which gives me a somewhat similar look to the Flex.
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Their not a flex rom for sprint.
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After flashing my Galaxy Nexus several times a week, and sometimes a few times in a day, for two years, I fully expected that I'd be doing the same with the G2. But I've been very pleasantly surprised at the speed, smoothness, features and battery life with stock. Stock has also been incredibly stable for me, No FC's, no lockups.
The stocks apps are much better than I expected -- the functionality has been excellent. I'm keeping an eye on the various sub-forums here for the G2, and may wind up flashing something new, but so far, I don't see anything more appealing than stock, and I'm not ready to give up the stock features. I may wind up with Flex, but I'm also guessing that there will be an update for the G2 sometime in the next 2 or 3 months, and my guess is that it may have some of the extra feature's we're seeing today in the Flex ROM. For now - I'm happy to remain stock, experiment with themes for the stock launcher and simply enjoy this fantastic phone. Still feels weird, as this is the first phone I've had where I'm really happy with stock.
^^Same exact situation for me,I'm loving the g2,just need to get rid of some of the bloat. But something deep inside really wants to start flashing away,but it's just too good as is, I stopped after root and recovery.
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I rooted first to get rid of all the status bar icons. Overkill lol I don't need to know NFC or WiFi is on. And with xposed tweaks, its all I need. I have zero interested in an asop ROM. Using flex and love it
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I have seen that official CM versions have been released:
SGP 52x: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=castor
SGP 51x:https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=castor_windy
I am still using the (rooted) Sony stock firmware. I would prefer the look and feel of CM, but I hesitate to switch because the battery runtime and performance of the tablet is so awesome.
Has anybody tried out those official CM builds yet?
How is performance and battery runtime?
Any major bugs?
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Has anybody tried out those official CM builds yet?
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I'm trying.
I just have tried it out now
So far everything is looking great! Performance with ART is great, also is responsiveness.
Cannot say anything about battery runtime yet. But overall I prefer it over stock.
BabelHuber said:
I just have tried it out now
So far everything is looking great! Performance with ART is great, also is responsiveness.
Cannot say anything about battery runtime yet. But overall I prefer it over stock.
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I had a Motorola Xoom (since it was original released by Verizon) and had CM 11 and 4.4.4 on it. It worked beautifully even on hardware that old. I just picked up the Verizon Xperia Z2 tablet. I like it a lot but I do prefer CM 11. I haven't rooted yet as I am wading through all the forums trying to understand exactly the best way to root, install CWM or TWRP (I like TWRP better) and then load CM 11.
If you don't mind me asking... What model are you running? Was there a specific guide that you used to root? Are you using either CWM or TWRP?
Dave
stupid question, but how the hell do you install this. i tried flashing it thru twrp (using nut dual recovery) for sgp 511, but i just got a black screen afterwords afterwords. i also couldn't reinstall my nut recovery after the flash, so i ended up having to flash back to stock, root, and install twrp and then flashed my original backup to get back the way i was.
i am really only interested in it if it makes touch responsiveness better cause at times i want to throw the thing out the window when it wont touch near where im touching it.
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I had a Motorola Xoom (since it was original released by Verizon) and had CM 11 and 4.4.4 on it. It worked beautifully even on hardware that old. I just picked up the Verizon Xperia Z2 tablet. I like it a lot but I do prefer CM 11. I haven't rooted yet as I am wading through all the forums trying to understand exactly the best way to root, install CWM or TWRP (I like TWRP better) and then load CM 11.
If you don't mind me asking... What model are you running? Was there a specific guide that you used to root? Are you using either CWM or TWRP?
Dave
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this will give you root and 3 bootable recoveries on stock rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785598
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If you don't mind me asking... What model are you running? Was there a specific guide that you used to root? Are you using either CWM or TWRP?
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I am using this CWM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708194
My device is an SGP512. After flashing CM, you automatically have root, you just need to enable it in the developer settings.
thecrunked said:
stupid question, but how the hell do you install this. i tried flashing it thru twrp (using nut dual recovery) for sgp 511, but i just got a black screen afterwords afterwords. i also couldn't reinstall my nut recovery after the flash, so i ended up having to flash back to stock, root, and install twrp and then flashed my original backup to get back the way i was.
i am really only interested in it if it makes touch responsiveness better cause at times i want to throw the thing out the window when it wont touch near where im touching it.
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I installed CM11 like described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...2-tabletdevelopment-cm11-android-4-4-t2809793
Install instructions:
first time
- power off the phone:
- hold vol+ and plug usb to boot into fastboot (blu led)
- fastboot flash boot boot.img (from cm10 zip)
- fastboot reboot
- enter recovery, on boot led will be violet for 3'', during this period press vol+
- flash rom zip
- flash gapps zip
- wipe
- reboot
for update just flash rom zip from recovery
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I assume you did not flash the boot.img first...
Touch responsiveness is better with CM, I haven't had the stock ROM bugs. But battery runtime is a little bit better with stock, I guess this is because the screen is brighter when using CM with automatic brightness. I adjusted the brightness settings meanwhile, but it is too early to report results, I have to use it for a few days first.
thecrunked said:
stupid question, but how the hell do you install this. i tried flashing it thru twrp (using nut dual recovery) for sgp 511, but i just got a black screen afterwords afterwords. i also couldn't reinstall my nut recovery after the flash, so i ended up having to flash back to stock, root, and install twrp and then flashed my original backup to get back the way i was.
i am really only interested in it if it makes touch responsiveness better cause at times i want to throw the thing out the window when it wont touch near where im touching it.
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this will give you root and 3 bootable recoveries on stock rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785598
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Did you unlock your boOtloader. If not you can only run stock kernel
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Finally running M9, all looks good to me.
Can't wait to try this, returning my Galaxy Tab Lag, I mean S, and going to order a Z2.
As I wrote elsewhere:
At the moment installing CM has no real advantages over using stock ROM, but some disadvantages.
Battery life is clearly better with stock; stock has way better audio (louder, clearer - via the built-in enhancers) over the internal speakers; stock has more built-in features.
I tested CM for some days, but there really was nothing which stock firmware .314 (with Xposed, of course) could not do or even do better.
Turbojugend said:
Can't wait to try this, returning my Galaxy Tab Lag, I mean S, and going to order a Z2.
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I'm using CM and preferring it over stock. Battery runtime is a little bit worse (at least with M9) , but it doesn't carry the Sony bloat (which I don't use anyways), supports ART and has the CM theme engine. Overall it's snappy and performs well.
But to each its own, stock isn't bad too.
Sony bloat? Titanium Backup, and there you go.
ART? It has been proven that ART brings NO speed advantage over Dalvik in pre-L Android. And you can't use Xposed anymore. So, using ART is not wise.
Theme engine? Superfluous.
hasenbein1966 said:
Sony bloat? Titanium Backup, and there you go.[/QUOTE
Yes, but you need to debloat after every update. I consider this to be annoying.
hasenbein1966 said:
ART? It has been proven that ART brings NO speed advantage over Dalvik in pre-L Android. And you can't use Xposed anymore. So, using ART is not wise.
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I don't need Xposed for CM, but I needed it for stock even to get an advanced reboot menu. Lots of settings which require Xposed at stock are included in CM per default.
Besides I switched back from ART to Dalvik meanwhile, still liking CM better.
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Theme engine? Superfluous.
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Come on, the first thing I did with my tablet was to install Nova launcher and Holo locker, because Sony's UI looks butt-ugly compared to AOSP!
The Sony themes are also a joke, CM with a good theme looks significantly better. I won't go back to stock for this alone.
But the final reason I switched to an AOSP - derivate were minor annoyances, like when copying an URL from a browser. CM does not have such little annoyances.
Regarding the battery runtime, CM is bright as hell after installation. You need to adjust the values manually. I lose between 1 and 2 hours of screen time with CM (9 to 10th instead of 11), so this is no deal breaker.
But of course you have to find the settings for adjusting the auto-brightness (brightness - settings - adjust), otherwise battery runtime in deed is low.
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BabelHuber said:
because Sony's UI looks butt-ugly compared to AOSP!
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BS. Sony's UI is really elegant and modern. While the AOSP UI is aging.
You can say that YOU personally like the AOSP look better, but to call the Sony UI "butt-ugly" is pure BS.
You are of course entitled to prefer CM just because of the looks (this is what it boils down to...) while dispensing with features and battery time - just like anyone is entitled to what he wants - but smart it isn't.
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BS. Sony's UI is really elegant and modern. While the AOSP UI is aging.
You can say that YOU personally like the AOSP look better, but to call the Sony UI "butt-ugly" is pure BS.
You are of course entitled to prefer CM just because of the looks (this is what it boils down to...) while dispensing with features and battery time - just like anyone is entitled to what he wants - but smart it isn't.
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I don't want to be part of a flame war here, so I won't comment on your BS about smartness.
Honestly, if you like the mess of Sony's UI, just use it. CM with a good L theme is light years ahead IMO.
Also, you conveniently ignore the parts where I mention stuff like no bloat, more options (with no need for Xposed), missing annoyances of stock and snappyness/performance.
The additional 'features' of the stock ROM are completely useless for me. They are just unnecessary bloat in my case.
I personally don't give a rat's ass about one hour of screen time more or less when we talk about 10h! Then I charge the battery with 20% instead of 30%. So what?
Of course you are entitled to have a different opinion, and that's why different ROMs exist in the first place. Just don't act like your choice is the only sensible one for everybody, please!
been on cm for awhile now and I like it.. but just gone back to stock to try out the new update.. i agree stock is irritating for me its just that little bit laggier than cm..... typing, changing browser tabs, flicking between apps. cm is definitely just that bit quicker...
going to stick on stock for abit longer(yes battery is good but its not bad in cm).. Thinking of going back...
anyway the jurys out..
i want sony to make it as fluent as cm. then ill stick i recon.
hasenbein1966 said:
Sony bloat? Titanium Backup, and there you go.
ART? It has been proven that ART brings NO speed advantage over Dalvik in pre-L Android. And you can't use Xposed anymore. So, using ART is not wise.
Theme engine? Superfluous.
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Hey, nexus user here, Google velocity rom, they proved that it does
*patting your head* Of cooouurse.... :laugh:
Off topic, art truly is faster, the problem on many non nexus devices is the implementation
I'm back on CM again, tried the new stock for a week. But on my tab it's just too frustrating(typing and the occasional double tap in browsers) which barely happens on CM it's just smoother and yes double tap to turn on works nicely and the speakers are nice and loud.
Three days after receiving my 6P, I unlocked the bootloader, put TWRP and installed a custom ROM. First ROM would reboot randomly, second ROM was OK, but when I tried a CM based ROM, it went south. I tried to restore and none of my nandroids worked, so I had to reset the whole phone with the Nexus tool root kit. Not to mention that I couldn't use android pay if I wanted to ( not that I ever have yet). I'm going to try to go stock for a while and see if I can tolerate it . Anyone else?
No problem here with Chroma ROM
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
Coming from a LG G3 running aosp Roms, theming and kernel tweeks having the 6P is a nice change. I'll run it stock for awhile.
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I'm running Dirty Unicorns like a champ, chroma was always good too.
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Stock, rooted.
Pure Nexus/EX Kernel combo here. I just wish stock had a couple more options otherwise I might consider running it. I guess I'm just SO used to things like gestures to wake & sleep the phone when it's sitting on my desk, quick pulldown on the status/notification area, and handy shortcuts like holding the power button for flashlight (which I use all the time lol) that I just can't get away from custom stuff Only thing I sometimes miss is AP, but quite honestly that's pretty rare and if worst comes to worst I currently have a 2nd phone (work one) that I can use for that. Have a co-worker though who's all about stock, so to each their own!
There are already a couple similar threads
100% stock seems to be the best.
Stock Rom or Custom Rom?
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