Why did you choose the Desire 610? - HTC Desire 610

I was just wondering what are all of your stories with the desire 610? was it recommended by a friend?
Personally I spent an hour on the phone with an AT&T Rep. I first asked for advice on what android phone to buy, the Rep said "buy the S6 Edge+. its the best android phone period." after four different *EXPENSIVE* recommendations (LG G4, S6, iPhone 6, HTC one M9) the rep was like "ok you want a cheap phone? get the Desire 610." after about a day of reading/watching reviews I bought the phone. every review i saw failed to mention that the MOTO E is also at a low price and is better than this phone (a friend has the MOTO E). so what convinced you to buy this phone?

Why I chose the Desire 610
I originally thought it would be a great idea, like those times you write a really important paper and it sounds good, but the next day you present it in front of many people and as you read it, you wonder what you were thinking and if you were even completely sane at the time. I was at an AT&T store in Oregon and thought "oh great, no tax, ill just get a new phone!!". Buuuuut unlike you, I didnt talk with a representative, I just thought "ohh it looks nice, and stuff so desire 610, i choose you". When I took it home, I realized why it wasnt on demo mode... It couldnt handle it... with about 1gig of ram, less than 4gb of free space, and a bootloader thats a pain in the rear to unlock plus, I had to port a custom rom (as there wasnt one at all), i decided to promptly do research... on the perfect phone for me. I was happy with my sony xperia tl lt30at, more so than with the quad core 610... and it was a dual core!!! I finally decided to settle with the oneplus one, and that is what I am rockin right now . LOVE IT!!!!!!!! Highly recommended!

I was a total phone noob. Like TOTALLY! I came from a BlackBerry Bold 9780. I wanted to upgrade. I bought the 610 from best buy and they activated it on att. When I saw the desire 610 on ATT's website, I was like "ooooohhhh". So at best buy, they said the 610 was not there yet. They offered me the new one m8!!!!!!! Like I said, I did not know anything about it, and thinking the 610 was top of the line, I refused. That was the dumbest decision of my life. Haha. The phone seemed snappy, but soon, it was absolute ****. Low space, lag, etc. I rooted and waited for a ROM. Around a year later (I think) slimkat came out and I installed it. Was loving it, but it was buggy. Then MiniBlu's cm11 came out and I was saved. I still wanna upgrade terribly though. Im looking at the G3. Around $190 eBay new. I'm considering using my sisters s3. It outperforms this phone is every way(maybe not battery life. Hah).
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Still regret not picking the m8. Haha

D3G0N said:
I originally thought it would be a great idea, like those times you write a really important paper and it sounds good, but the next day you present it in front of many people and as you read it, you wonder what you were thinking and if you were even completely sane at the time. I was at an AT&T store in Oregon and thought "oh great, no tax, ill just get a new phone!!". Buuuuut unlike you, I didnt talk with a representative, I just thought "ohh it looks nice, and stuff so desire 610, i choose you". When I took it home, I realized why it wasnt on demo mode... It couldnt handle it... with about 1gig of ram, less than 4gb of free space, and a bootloader thats a pain in the rear to unlock plus, I had to port a custom rom (as there wasnt one at all), i decided to promptly do research... on the perfect phone for me. I was happy with my sony xperia tl lt30at, more so than with the quad core 610... and it was a dual core!!! I finally decided to settle with the oneplus one, and that is what I am rockin right now . LOVE IT!!!!!!!! Highly recommended!
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yup that bootloader is a pain. thats why i kept the Unlock_code.bin file. The oneplus one is nice, but sadly its an unlocked phone. and paying $23 per month for 30 months is a better option than paying 400 upfront. at least thats my preference. plus AT&T Next upgrade options do discount a fair bit of the price. My next upgrade is probably going to be either the LG V10 or the Galaxy S6 Edge. they are both really nice and speedy phones, but they lack ROMs. sadly as unlocked/switching carriers is not an option for me, I have to go with one of those. but the V10 does look nice.

Half_Of_A_Life_Left said:
yup that bootloader is a pain. thats why i kept the Unlock_code.bin file. The oneplus one is nice, but sadly its an unlocked phone. and paying $23 per month for 30 months is a better option than paying 400 upfront. at least thats my preference. plus AT&T Next upgrade options do discount a fair bit of the price. My next upgrade is probably going to be either the LG V10 or the Galaxy S6 Edge. they are both really nice and speedy phones, but they lack ROMs. sadly as unlocked/switching carriers is not an option for me, I have to go with one of those. but the V10 does look nice.
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Naw, at&t still thinks I'm on my a3ul, so I'm paying just for the regular plan of 10 gigs a month plus unlimited text and call + text internationally. Every time I show up at the at&t store, I just put the sim I'm my desire and have the opo in my back pocket ?.

I choose it because the moto g is not available in my country and i dont lke samsung or blu other brand u get easily and was not gonna send a couple months pay on an iphone.
BTW bootoader is very easy to unlock using windriod.. Using my 610 with cm 11

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I choose it because the moto g is not available in my country and i dont lke samsung or blu other brand u get easily and was not gonna send a couple months pay on an iphone.
BTW bootoader is very easy to unlock using windriod.. Using my 610 with cm 11
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Yes you're correct. Windroid is the fastest.

magicstick5 said:
I was a total phone noob. Like TOTALLY! I came from a BlackBerry Bold 9780. I wanted to upgrade. I bought the 610 from best buy and they activated it on att. When I saw the desire 610 on ATT's website, I was like "ooooohhhh". So at best buy, they said the 610 was not there yet. They offered me the new one m8!!!!!!! Like I said, I did not know anything about it, and thinking the 610 was top of the line, I refused. That was the dumbest decision of my life. Haha. The phone seemed snappy, but soon, it was absolute ****. Low space, lag, etc. I rooted and waited for a ROM. Around a year later (I think) slimkat came out and I installed it. Was loving it, but it was buggy. Then MiniBlu's cm11 came out and I was saved. I still wanna upgrade terribly though. Im looking at the G3. Around $190 eBay new. I'm considering using my sisters s3. It outperforms this phone is every way(maybe not battery life. Hah).
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Still regret not picking the m8. Haha
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instead of the LG G3 wait for the G5 release where the G4 will have a price reduction. anyways I preffer the V10 over both. but given those choices I would say the G4 is good. nearly the same specs as the V10

Half_Of_A_Life_Left said:
instead of the LG G3 wait for the G5 release where the G4 will have a price reduction. anyways I preffer the V10 over both. but given those choices I would say the G4 is good. nearly the same specs as the V10
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Yeah you're right. I'm probably not gonna be upgrading in until maybe 2 years.

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Yeah you're right. I'm probably not gonna be upgrading in until maybe 2 years.
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Im going to upgrade this summer. I'm waiting for the G5 release so I can compare my options by price/features. and looks. If the G5 is anything like the rumors I think it will look terrible. Hope that LG will use the design of the V10 on the G5. that would look so much better in my opinion.

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Im going to upgrade this summer. I'm waiting for the G5 release so I can compare my options by price/features. and looks. If the G5 is anything like the rumors I think it will look terrible. Hope that LG will use the design of the V10 on the G5. that would look so much better in my opinion.
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The added images are rumor pics. I personally think both look horrible.

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The added images are rumor pics. I personally think both look horrible.
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Looks like and unfinished g3 or g4 design. Agree it's too ugly.

I got it because I couldn't afford anything more at the time lol

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The added images are rumor pics. I personally think both look horrible.
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Ohh man those are worse than the s6... how do phone manufacturers not realise that if u put ur phone down its either on the screen ( nobody wants that ) or on the back, and when the cam and everything is sticking out it gets killed by the table... I understand hat hose are rumor pics, but the fact that people would consider that is just sad...

I bought it because the moto E and moto G had been sold out. I don't regret getting this phone since it only cost me a dollar, I mainly use it for playing music now since the internal DAC is actually pretty stable for a low end device.

I found mine on a shelf at walmart with no passcode. I had been on a flip phone since my iphone 4 broke in 2012. The 610 was a nice upgrade. Not sure why people would have a smart phone with no passcode. Logged into their facebook an' evrthang. Then leave it on a shelf in walmart.

$54 with LTE, AptX, 128GB microSD

best option under my contract
It was the best option under the contract I had with EE UK and I don't regret. It cost me £10 and two years contract; got it one and a half year ago. Now, after rooting and trying several custom roms, I found an HTC stock rom that give me a few extra possibilities. Quality of music player and camera is very good, and I minimized the issue of the low memory with link2sd and external sd.
Good money value

I had a HTC One S and it served my very well for 4 years, i didnt really want to replace it, but battery started getting weak. So i started looking. I didnt have the money to buy a high end phone again, but i got used to htc Sense.
So i stumbled upon the Desire 610 on ebay for just 49€. I just had to buy it.
Until now i am quite happy about it. The screen is a bit dissapointing, when you are used to the AMOLED from the One S.
But everything is now fresh and snappy.
Another Advantage of the plastic made 610 is the low SAR-Value of 0,3.
The Aluminum Unibody of the One S gives you high quality but also high radiaton.

I originally bought this phone becuase it had decent specs for what i could afford and its media ability was far above the others in my price range. though i hadnt done my research when i first purchased it and was sad to find no support for a while. though i can say it was a good phone. and now that it has some support i still have fun trying to brick it now and again!(though my daily is now a nexus)

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[Q] Which Model to Get for Development Support?

I live in Australia and we have UMTS 850 and 2100 so I can use the DNA, J Butterfly or International Butterfly, however I notice all of the developer support going out to the DNA and not the Butterfly. Will the same development work on both, for example kernel and ROM? The support already looks slow enough as it is, let alone none at all if I choose the wrong model! I wonder why there is no Butterfly sub section?
Is development always this slow for this phone or is it because it is a new device?
Depends on a lot of things.
Butterfly is not getting wide spread international release like most HTC phones do just yet. There is big question mark if it ever will. With their financial troubles and pulling out of many markets, they might skip widespread Butterfly launch and just go with M7 global launch.
Either way, DNA makes more sense at this point. Even if Butterfly releases widely internationally, the phone shares almost everything except modem with DNA. So any ROM that is released for Butterfly can and will be easily ported to DNA. If not the one that works for Verizon, then the one like Virtuous DNA+ which is dedicated ROM for 3G HSPA users like you and me.
So getting DNA makes more sense as it is global phone. So you have 2 development channels open. Easy ports of Butterfly ROMs and dedicated DNA development. I am sure most developers who will work on Butterfly in future will release simple port for DNA as it will increase their popularity and they will get more donations with minimal efforts.
And at the moment DNA is getting more development as you said as it released in the US as the only 1080P phone early.
Win win for DNA owners.
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Depends on a lot of things.
Butterfly is not getting wide spread international release like most HTC phones do just yet. There is big question mark if it ever will. With their financial troubles and pulling out of many markets, they might skip widespread Butterfly launch and just go with M7 global launch.
Either way, DNA makes more sense at this point. Even if Butterfly releases widely internationally, the phone shares almost everything except modem with DNA. So any ROM that is released for Butterfly can and will be easily ported to DNA. If not the one that works for Verizon, then the one like Virtuous DNA+ which is dedicated ROM for 3G HSPA users like you and me.
So getting DNA makes more sense as it is global phone. So you have 2 development channels open. Easy ports of Butterfly ROMs and dedicated DNA development. I am sure most developers who will work on Butterfly in future will release simple port for DNA as it will increase their popularity and they will get more donations with minimal efforts.
And at the moment DNA is getting more development as you said as it released in the US as the only 1080P phone early.
Win win for DNA owners.
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Thanks for that. I was at my local shops today about to purchase the Note 2, however it is too much like my last 3 phones SGS 1,2,3 and it was very uncomfortable to handle due to the nature of it's size. I was then looking at the Nexus 4 online and now the Droid DNA. I am having a hard time deciding on 1. I am blown away by all of the development for Nexus 4 and the front bezel looks sexy!. It is really sad to see little developers for DNA! - I am not used to little support, coming from a Samsung. I know for certain if the DNA threads were busier I would not hesitate to choose it over the Nexus 4.
the DNA is as wide as the S3 and taller, if you haven't compared the two yet
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the DNA is as wide as the S3 and taller, if you haven't compared the two yet
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I don't mind the size of my S3, however I wanted to try something away from Samsung now. I have been using them since Eclair. Like I said above, the only reason I am hesitant with this device now is it doesn't look to be flourishing in the development community!
I think HTC has become a little bit suspect over the last couple of years and that also worries me. I have owned a HTC Touch Diamond and a H2 (which I converted from windows to Android) and both of these phones overall weren't impressive to me at all. I just really hope if I buy a DNA/Butterfly, I won't regret it or be disappointed. Was anybody else on the fence with this device? if so what do you think now?
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I don't mind the size of my S3, however I wanted to try something away from Samsung now. I have been using them since Eclair. Like I said above, the only reason I am hesitant with this device now is it doesn't look to be flourishing in the development community!
I think HTC has become a little bit suspect over the last couple of years and that also worries me. I have owned a HTC Touch Diamond and a H2 (which I converted from windows to Android) and both of these phones overall weren't impressive to me at all. I just really hope if I buy a DNA/Butterfly, I won't regret it or be disappointed. Was anybody else on the fence with this device? if so what do you think now?
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Well that is tricky one to be honest.
I have give more than fair chance to HTC over last few years. I had Hero, Desire, HD2, Sensation, Sensation XL and One X before DNA.
The One X I ditched purely out of frustration. It received fair share of development, but even lot of developers themselves were frustrated with S-ON and Tegra 3.
The S-ON blasphemy still lives on till today and that is the biggest caveat I have against HTC and same is the case with lot of developers. They just loathe the fact that you have to go through HTC DEV to unlock bootloader and S-ON putting extra restriction on them and one more step for end users to remember and make sure they dont mess up while flashing custom kernels and rolling back to stock.
The only reason I am even giving chance to DNA is purely because of Hardware. I am not a big fan of Sense either. But it can be refreshing for a while. I went to One X after using 2 back to back Samsung TWUI phones, and for a while it was great to use something else. In long run though that beautiful piece of hardware was nothing but disappointment. But I hope DNA is different. Even if it does not get as much development as Samsung, couple of key devs can make a lot of difference.
I just wish they do come here. We already have few good ones. But their interest needs to last.
In the end you can always ebay the phone if you take care of it properly (cosmetically) and recover large portion of your investment. Specially high end little exclusive device like DNA which is not easily accessible outside US is in great demand outside US.
DNA will never get as much developer support as Nexus 4. Its not happening, neither will it match Note 2 or SGS3 or upcoming SGS 4 for that matter. What we need is just enough developer involvement to address some critical issues or add some really beneficial features to a phone with stunning hardware. This time the hardware is all there. We just need little bit of development. I for one was willing to take that risk when I jumped in. If it works out, well and good. Or it hits ebay in month or two.
Usually it will take couple of months after device launch for developer section to start buzzing on the exclusive devices like DNA.
Funkym0nkey said:
Well that is tricky one to be honest.
I have give more than fair chance to HTC over last few years. I had Hero, Desire, HD2, Sensation, Sensation XL and One X before DNA.
The One X I ditched purely out of frustration. It received fair share of development, but even lot of developers themselves were frustrated with S-ON and Tegra 3.
The S-ON blasphemy still lives on till today and that is the biggest caveat I have against HTC and same is the case with lot of developers. They just loathe the fact that you have to go through HTC DEV to unlock bootloader and S-ON putting extra restriction on them and one more step for end users to remember and make sure they dont mess up while flashing custom kernels and rolling back to stock.
The only reason I am even giving chance to DNA is purely because of Hardware. I am not a big fan of Sense either. But it can be refreshing for a while. I went to One X after using 2 back to back Samsung TWUI phones, and for a while it was great to use something else. In long run though that beautiful piece of hardware was nothing but disappointment. But I hope DNA is different. Even if it does not get as much development as Samsung, couple of key devs can make a lot of difference.
I just wish they do come here. We already have few good ones. But their interest needs to last.
In the end you can always ebay the phone if you take care of it properly (cosmetically) and recover large portion of your investment. Specially high end little exclusive device like DNA which is not easily accessible outside US is in great demand outside US.
DNA will never get as much developer support as Nexus 4. Its not happening, neither will it match Note 2 or SGS3 or upcoming SGS 4 for that matter. What we need is just enough developer involvement to address some critical issues or add some really beneficial features to a phone with stunning hardware. This time the hardware is all there. We just need little bit of development. I for one was willing to take that risk when I jumped in. If it works out, well and good. Or it hits ebay in month or two.
Usually it will take couple of months after device launch for developer section to start buzzing on the exclusive devices like DNA.
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You raise some very good points. If the Nexus 4 had the same screen, I would not be typing this message. Thanks for your advice! Have you received the phone yet, if so how do you like it? - I understand that Samsung will win with development at this stage and it will take some time for HTC to gain back their audience. I just really hope for the same things you do with development!
I use a DNA on Telstra, am really enjoying it. Once you strip it down and cull the bloat, it goes well. Data on NextG works fine. I got MMS going with a few tricks, too. Happy to help if you decide to take the plunge!
Justin
uppon2 said:
You raise some very good points. If the Nexus 4 had the same screen, I would not be typing this message. Thanks for your advice! Have you received the phone yet, if so how do you like it? - I understand that Samsung will win with development at this stage and it will take some time for HTC to gain back their audience. I just really hope for the same things you do with development!
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Yes, I got phone few days ago. Been using it for a week or so now. Havent yet completely switched to it due to busy schedule so I can transfer all my data and files to this phone yet but using it daily as secondary phone for now.
I like the phone, the screen, the overall feel. Wish sense animation was little bit faster. Phone flies in apps which is to be expected thanks to the hardware, but sense feels slower than TWUI or AOSP UI. HTC has opted for that smooth transition effect which actually feels slower on such fast device. I am so used to Note 2 flying through home pages and app drawer that this will take some time getting used to. But there is very little wrong with the phone for day to day use.
I actually wish we get good stable and fast AOSP /AOKP release for this phone so I can switch to it. Simply switching launcher does not seem to give the desired effect on this phone.
But it is far from total disappointment. In fact it is good experience so far. Just want it to get little better :good:
juzz86 said:
I use a DNA on Telstra, am really enjoying it. Once you strip it down and cull the bloat, it goes well. Data on NextG works fine. I got MMS going with a few tricks, too. Happy to help if you decide to take the plunge!
Justin
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Thanks for the response mate. I appreciate the help. Why do you need to do anything to get working MMS?
Funkym0nkey said:
Yes, I got phone few days ago. Been using it for a week or so now. Havent yet completely switched to it due to busy schedule so I can transfer all my data and files to this phone yet but using it daily as secondary phone for now.
I like the phone, the screen, the overall feel. Wish sense animation was little bit faster. Phone flies in apps which is to be expected thanks to the hardware, but sense feels slower than TWUI or AOSP UI. HTC has opted for that smooth transition effect which actually feels slower on such fast device. I am so used to Note 2 flying through home pages and app drawer that this will take some time getting used to. But there is very little wrong with the phone for day to day use.
I actually wish we get good stable and fast AOSP /AOKP release for this phone so I can switch to it. Simply switching launcher does not seem to give the desired effect on this phone.
But it is far from total disappointment. In fact it is good experience so far. Just want it to get little better :good:
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Oh cool you have both phones then? The Note 2 is just a little bit too big for me. How do the screens compare to you? Anything else you might add you like or dislike about the 2 devices mate?
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Yes, I got phone few days ago. Been using it for a week or so now. Havent yet completely switched to it due to busy schedule so I can transfer all my data and files to this phone yet but using it daily as secondary phone for now.
I like the phone, the screen, the overall feel. Wish sense animation was little bit faster. Phone flies in apps which is to be expected thanks to the hardware, but sense feels slower than TWUI or AOSP UI. HTC has opted for that smooth transition effect which actually feels slower on such fast device. I am so used to Note 2 flying through home pages and app drawer that this will take some time getting used to. But there is very little wrong with the phone for day to day use.
I actually wish we get good stable and fast AOSP /AOKP release for this phone so I can switch to it. Simply switching launcher does not seem to give the desired effect on this phone.
But it is far from total disappointment. In fact it is good experience so far. Just want it to get little better :good:
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If you go into the advanced development settings menu, you can raise the animation speed from 1 to .5 and it makes it more like TW animation speed. :good:
MMS doesn't work outside VZV unless you edit a few things in the build.prop (they blacklisted the 'mms' APN). To do this, you need a kernel with /system write available, so your changes stick after a reboot. You also need to use a third-party messaging app like Go SMS Pro or something.
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MMS doesn't work outside VZV unless you edit a few things in the build.prop (they blacklisted the 'mms' APN). To do this, you need a kernel with /system write available, so your changes stick after a reboot. You also need to use a third-party messaging app like Go SMS Pro or something.
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Ahh cool. I might ask you when I receive my phone. Just ordered it now. Costing me $598 delivered to Australia. It's fully unlocked and comes with an Otterbox Defender case. There weren't many deals going on and it took me a few days to even find this deal! I just sold a Nexus 4 for $550, so this is only costing me an extra $50 and it includes the case, so I'm happy. The phone has HTC USA 1 Yr Warranty. (Luckily for me my mother in-law lives in the US!
How much is the going price on the device outside of eBay? In the states for example.
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Ahh cool. I might ask you when I receive my phone. Just ordered it now. Costing me $598 delivered to Australia. It's fully unlocked and comes with an Otterbox Defender case. There weren't many deals going on and it took me a few days to even find this deal! I just sold a Nexus 4 for $550, so this is only costing me an extra $50 and it includes the case, so I'm happy. The phone has HTC USA 1 Yr Warranty. (Luckily for me my mother in-law lives in the US!
How much is the going price on the device outside of eBay? In the states for example.
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Outside ebay its $599 + tax + shipping. So a lot more than what you paid. Even I got mine was way less than this from ebay only. Got mine for like 550 delivered. But yes I too had to wait for couple of weeks for right auction and little bit of luck with auction ending late local US time in the middle of night.
Most ebay phones are people who had upgrade option available and got the phone for $199 but decided to make some money by selling the phone on ebay and keep the old phone for another contract cycle.
This is what 99% of ebay deals are for phone like this. So we do save considerable amount by buying from ebay. If you have a look at the seller ratings, you are safe and covered by ebay guarantee which heavily favours buyers. So its pretty safe bet if you take minimal precautions.
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Thanks for the response mate. I appreciate the help. Why do you need to do anything to get working MMS?
Oh cool you have both phones then? The Note 2 is just a little bit too big for me. How do the screens compare to you? Anything else you might add you like or dislike about the 2 devices mate?
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I am little bit of phone fanatic. I end up buying almost all high end phones from HTC, Samsung and sometimes some good chinese phones.
At the moment I have Xiaomi MI2, Note 2 and DNA with me. And just sold Nexus 4 few weeks ago, but you already had that so you know how it was.
Xiamoi is on par with DNA as far as performance is concerned. Its blazing fast and thats understandable as it has same chip. And no throttle issues like Nexus 4 on this phone. It just flies out of box. Mind boggling performance. It does out perform even DNA in benchmarks like Antutu as it has 720P screen and not 1080P. But you can feel the speed with this one. Total bang for buck for something I bought for less than $400 shipped. It does run out of battery quickly if you do anything processor intensive so it is mainly used as house phone.
Note 2 is a beast. Its screen is much better than SGS3. But DNA screen looks totally different. 1080P is heaven if you are viewing right content. Sadly somehow you feel sense is not making use of the real estate available. Specially those who have good vision and can live with smaller font or rather smaller icons / more grid lines as an option would have been nice. But thats fine. Nothing major. Sure someone will make a rom that will implement this down the line.
1080P and games that scale properly look super nice on this phone. But playing games with on screen controls is better experience on Note 2 thanks to bigger display. But I dont game much these days, not heavy gaming for sure. Just some 2d time pass games or sudoku, puzzle or jetpack joyride etc..
But the huge battery, and S-Pen make it much better productivity device. And I do have large hands.
I am totally in love with Note 2. I dont think that will change. It is better, more productive device at this stage of its development. But if you have problems with Note 2 size, DNA is definitely next best thing right now.
For development i say buy nexus.I had HTC desire and since then HTC changed, became a locked garden, Devs are moving away from HTC scene. However if you feel the need of some htc sense candy(i sometimes miss it) ,it is another story but i always flash an aosp rom usually so sense is kinda waste for me.Experience also taught me that software support is far superior as opposed to a slight advantage in hardware.Just my 2c though, it is your money and you decide how to us it at the end of the day
If not that why don't you Terry xperia z atm i don't really know about that line of phones but i only hear good things even from our beloved cody back at the sammy forums.
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Funkym0nkey said:
Outside ebay its $599 + tax + shipping. So a lot more than what you paid. Even I got mine was way less than this from ebay only. Got mine for like 550 delivered. But yes I too had to wait for couple of weeks for right auction and little bit of luck with auction ending late local US time in the middle of night.
Most ebay phones are people who had upgrade option available and got the phone for $199 but decided to make some money by selling the phone on ebay and keep the old phone for another contract cycle.
This is what 99% of ebay deals are for phone like this. So we do save considerable amount by buying from ebay. If you have a look at the seller ratings, you are safe and covered by ebay guarantee which heavily favours buyers. So its pretty safe bet if you take minimal precautions.
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I am little bit of phone fanatic. I end up buying almost all high end phones from HTC, Samsung and sometimes some good chinese phones.
At the moment I have Xiaomi MI2, Note 2 and DNA with me. And just sold Nexus 4 few weeks ago, but you already had that so you know how it was.
Xiamoi is on par with DNA as far as performance is concerned. Its blazing fast and thats understandable as it has same chip. And no throttle issues like Nexus 4 on this phone. It just flies out of box. Mind boggling performance. It does out perform even DNA in benchmarks like Antutu as it has 720P screen and not 1080P. But you can feel the speed with this one. Total bang for buck for something I bought for less than $400 shipped. It does run out of battery quickly if you do anything processor intensive so it is mainly used as house phone.
Note 2 is a beast. Its screen is much better than SGS3. But DNA screen looks totally different. 1080P is heaven if you are viewing right content. Sadly somehow you feel sense is not making use of the real estate available. Specially those who have good vision and can live with smaller font or rather smaller icons / more grid lines as an option would have been nice. But thats fine. Nothing major. Sure someone will make a rom that will implement this down the line.
1080P and games that scale properly look super nice on this phone. But playing games with on screen controls is better experience on Note 2 thanks to bigger display. But I dont game much these days, not heavy gaming for sure. Just some 2d time pass games or sudoku, puzzle or jetpack joyride etc..
But the huge battery, and S-Pen make it much better productivity device. And I do have large hands.
I am totally in love with Note 2. I dont think that will change. It is better, more productive device at this stage of its development. But if you have problems with Note 2 size, DNA is definitely next best thing right now.
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Awesome! I already had the SGS 1 and 2. I then followed suit and bought the SGS 3. The phone was way too similar to the SGS 1 and 2. I got bored of it extremely fast, which was a first for me in a long time. I decided to flash a Samsung based ROM with AOSP apps, which I thought was pretty good for about a day and then flashed Paranoid, CM10.1 and AOKP over the next couple of weeks. I eventually just got sick of the look and feel of the device being too familiar to me.
At this point the nexus was the 1 and only phone for me....... I first thought. After using it for a while it didn't seem like the screen was even any bigger than even my SGS 2 as it loses so much screen real estate because of the OSKeys and it certainly didn't feel like an upgrade from the SGS 3, besides the fact it was extremely polished and fast being vanilla.
However, the thermal throttling and screen size pushed me away (Not to mention I was scared about the resell value if it eventually does come back in stock). So naturally I starting looking at the Note 2 (Which mind you is fantastic, but after using my friends over a weekend, I just found it to be so much like the SGS 1,2,3 in design and feel, with that same familiar Samsung feeling. Also it was very hard for me to handle while doing my day to day tasks. I did have a final play with it at the shops and it really just felt too strange to handle.
I am now taking a gamble on the DNA but oh well, it is selling in Australia for a lot more so I know if I want to resell it I won't lose any money! The screen looks brill and the muscle car chassis is dangerously gorgeous. I have never liked HTC phone after my previous attempts but fk it. At least I can give a complete comparison to others later on
Honestly, all of this fuss just for a phone which I will most likely sell to buy an Xperia Z or another 5"1080p phone by the second half of this year with perhaps the Adreno 330 or perhaps a comeback by Tegra? Who knows what the year will bring. All I know is their is a lot of competition that has yet to arrive from Sony, Oppo, Motorola, Acer, Asus.... and so on!
P.S It was refreshing to actually see some movement in the thread!
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For development i say buy nexus.I had HTC desire and since then HTC changed, became a locked garden, Devs are moving away from HTC scene. However if you feel the need of some htc sense candy(i sometimes miss it) ,it is another story but i always flash an aosp rom usually so sense is kinda waste for me.Experience also thought me that software support is far supurior as opposed to a slight asvantage in hardware.Just my 2c though, it is your money and you decide how to us it at the end of the day
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Hey bart. Been a while mate. I don't think we have spoken since my fantastic post about the history of CheckROM and it's developers.
As for the N4, Been there already man. I loved the Nexus 4 for that pure clean experience. Above is my reasoning as to why I chose to leave it.
Oh god lol how can i forget that checkrom thread i still remember ur posts
Hehe k ,i suggest u look also at xperia z but,about tegra... i think you know how exynos is fked up in terms of supportthe grass at the tegra department is not greener
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Oh god lol how can i forget that checkrom thread i still remember ur posts
Hehe k ,i suggest u look also at xperia z but,about tegra... i think you know how exynos is fked up in terms of supportthe grass at the tegra department is not greener
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Yeah well the grass is never greener If you read my long boring post above from start to finish you would have seen me mention the Xperia Z near the end of the thesis
I am now again looking at buying the Droid DNA due to being screwed around by previous seller! I wanted to ask this: Everywhere seems to state that the Droid DNA is network unlocked. Is this true? If it is then why are people sometimes stating on eBay that only GSM will work and no DATA outside of Verizon and the US! (I live in Australia and this is obviously important)
I am seriously getting so confused because of mixed seller listings. Some people say it is factory unlocked and some people say it is locked to Verizon. What is the deal? Also if the phone has a bad ESN or they fail to make a payment later on down the track and it does become bad, does this mean it will stop working in Australia or is it solely based around US and Verizon in general?
About the seller on eBay, I have now been refunded my money for my recent transaction. The seller did not mention that the device didn't come with it's box, instructions, charger etc. He also has no intention of mentioning it because he has relisted it without even indicating it. He is just trying to get an international buyer to deal with it is my guess. It was just a handset and a case. Very misleading, I am lucky that I confirmed with him just before he was selling it. It was one of those buy it nows that need to be paid upfront.
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[Q] If I'm on the market for an off-contract phone...?

Hey all,
Last week I decided to give Sprint and the iPhone 5 a go.
I don't recommend either.
So I'm back with Verizon, still have unlimited data (never actually cancelled just in case!), and I'm looking for an upgrade to the Galaxy Nexus, off-contract.
I'd like to get an HTC device, all I really want is Sense, SD Card support (coming from the GalNex, I really miss that), and I mean, decent specs. I obviously don't want to drop $300-400 on a phone that won't support Android 4.3 (yes, I know no one knows the answer to that FOR SURE, but I mean... ).
I also looked at the DNA, but its off-contract prices are STILL through the roof, plus, I like that the Dinc 4G LTE has a smaller screen size, I think the 4.7" on the GalNex was too big for me and not worth the battery woes.
So without further adieu, what do you guys think?
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Hey all,
Last week I decided to give Sprint and the iPhone 5 a go.
I don't recommend either.
So I'm back with Verizon, still have unlimited data (never actually cancelled just in case!), and I'm looking for an upgrade to the Galaxy Nexus, off-contract.
I'd like to get an HTC device, all I really want is Sense, SD Card support (coming from the GalNex, I really miss that), and I mean, decent specs. I obviously don't want to drop $300-400 on a phone that won't support Android 4.3 (yes, I know no one know's the answer to that FOR SURE, but I mean... ).
I also looked at the DNA, but its off-contract prices are STILL through the roof, plus, I like that the Dinc 4G LTE has a smaller screen size, I think the 4.7" on the GalNex was too big for me and not worth the battery woes.
So without further adieu, what do you guys think?
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Got mine mint at us160 on eBay, looks like new, decent phone and great price, also about android 4.3, it will be minor update like 4.2 so I guess we will probably get it too with cyanogen
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Got mine mint at us160 on eBay, looks like new, decent phone and great price, also about android 4.3, it will be minor update like 4.2 so I guess we will probably get it too with cyanogen
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$160 used though, right? I'm trying to stick to new if prices permit.
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$160 used though, right? I'm trying to stick to new if prices permit.
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I got mine, new for $250, via XDA marketplace when it still existed. This was back in November last year, if I remember correctly. You should easily get it reasonably cheaper than that off contract. But I dunno where to find new ones of these off contract at those prices. Most online places will probably only have used or kinda used ones. But keep hunting and you should get good prices.
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I got mine, new for $250, via XDA marketplace when it still existed. This was back in November last year, if I remember correctly. You should easily get it reasonably cheaper than that off contract. But I dunno where to find new ones of these off contract at those prices. Most online places will probably only have used or kinda used ones. But keep hunting and you should get good prices.
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I see a cell phone seller on eBay that has like 50 Dinc LTEs (sold like 15) for around $250, classic "New but we opened them", seems reasonable, I paid $350 for the Galaxy Nexus new not even a year ago (October 2012).
Does it have that lanyard loop thing like the original Dinc had?
Also, how's the battery life? I had the Thunderbolt and the original Dinc, HTC never gave their phones good batteries, at least up through 2011. I'm not up to date on this...
And can anyone explain the Inductive Charging situation? Does the Dinc LTE have it, does it need a special cover?
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Does it have that lanyard loop thing like the original Dinc had?
Also, how's the battery life? I had the Thunderbolt and the original Dinc, HTC never gave their phones good batteries, at least up through 2011. I'm not up to date on this...
And can anyone explain the Inductive Charging situation? Does the Dinc LTE have it, does it need a special cover?
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I don't think it has a lanyard loop. I can't find one. I can't compare the battery life of the Dinc4G with any other 4G phone as it is my first but I think it is fair to say that I get very similar battery life as I did with my Dinc2 which was a 3G only phone. All thanks to the Snapdragon 4 which are more frugal with LTE. But then again, I am a pretty light user so don't take my word as final. On a relatively light-moderate usage (music, talk, gps for tracking my running and occasionally gps for navigation) I get a days worth of battery. I leave my phone on 4G most of the time, even if I have wifi and it doesn't kill the battery at all. It hardly uses any in downtime.
Inductive charging needs a special back cover. It adds to the thickness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDZuCyadpZs Never tried it and your mileage may vary.
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$160 used though, right? I'm trying to stick to new if prices permit.
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yes used, all in perfect shape, the seller had it on a case all the time and was used only 2 weeks so i was very lucky, however i can still find some used incredibles on ebay for the same price, i won mine on a auction
I can't believe people actually prefer Sense. I mean, I know people's opinions differ, but pure JellyBean is just so...nice...Out of curiousity, what do you prefer about Sense over stock android?
I want to get the Moto X phone coming out. The specs aren't amazing, but it's got a pretty low price point too:
http://www.popherald.com/news/20130721/motorola/google-x-phone-leaked-white-model.php
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I can't believe people actually prefer Sense. I mean, I know people's opinions differ, but pure JellyBean is just so...nice...Out of curiousity, what do you prefer about Sense over stock android?
I want to get the Moto X phone coming out. The specs aren't amazing, but it's got a pretty low price point too:
http://www.popherald.com/news/20130721/motorola/google-x-phone-leaked-white-model.php
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I was thinking about the Moto X, too, but I was thrown astray by the whole "lack of expandable storage" thing. I already have a Pure Google phone, I don't want another.
I've always had a soft spot for Sense. Ignoring the features and the useful widgets (HTC Sync for iTunes music syncing and fullscreen widgets), it just looks better than AOSP IMO... But I mean, with the Galaxy Nexus, AOSP/Vanilla has been my ONLY option, so I guess I'm a little tired of it.
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I was thinking about the Moto X, too, but I was thrown astray by the whole "lack of expandable storage" thing. I already have a Pure Google phone, I don't want another.
I've always had a soft spot for Sense. Ignoring the features and the useful widgets (HTC Sync for iTunes music syncing and fullscreen widgets), it just looks better than AOSP IMO... But I mean, with the Galaxy Nexus, AOSP/Vanilla has been my ONLY option, so I guess I'm a little tired of it.
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The grass is always greener on the other side. The key advantage of a Nexus phone is timely support, though you can kiss that goodbye on Verizon. Even the Galaxy Nexus suffered horrendous waiting times for updates to roll out. I do like the Sense aesthetic to some extent, but then it does get in the way in other areas. If I were to honestly rate Sense 4.1 to AOSP 4.x and above, I say the vanilla Android has the upper hand. Granted it may seem sparse at places but it is consistent and doesn't have certain annoying features you may find on Sense. I assure you you'll get tired of sense too... But more importantly you'll start to get frustrated by lack of support, lack of kernel source leading to buggy CMs. Luckily that is not yet a major issue and we thankfully have a very stable CM 10.1.2 on 3.0.x kernel...
Speaking of Motorola X, who cares of those cutting edge specs? I used to be naive to think more is better and keep running for the best specs. But you know what, I don't care anymore. All these tech blogs care about is bleeding edge tech despite how little a majority of us need it. And they brainwash us into wasting money upgrading phones while the current phone is more than serviceable. I don't find the Moto X to have subpar specs, and for that price off-contract, that is a freaking amazing phone. I just don't know why we can't have decent 4"/4.3" phones anymore. Remember when phones were compact and all? Are these OEMs seriously planning to push the boundaries and make phones as big as the Nexus 7 in a few years? Sheesh. I am trying my best to avoid that road, but I think there aren't any decent 4"/4.3" phones anymore
Amen. I was content with the Droid Incredible, but then LTE happened, and I got the closest thing to it with LTE, the Thunderbolt. I recall the whole kernel source problem, I wish HTC would just release the source with the RUU (do RUUs still exist?).
Anyway, I looked at the Moto X rumors... It's interesting with the made in USA and customizability, but I don't want a phone that size, I want SD card support, easy sync with iTunes on a Mac (Doubletwist or HTC Sync, but neither support a Nexus or Moto phone with MTP), and support for Beats headphones in-line buttons and mic (I'm assuming...).
I wish it was cheaper than $250 new though, especially since the Moto X is supposed to be around $199 new off-contract (allegedly...hmm that seems fishy though).

Feels like another stinker to me... maybe.

Got the G2 on launch day from a Verizon store here in town. Phone is great, no doubt about that. What worries me is that this appears to be a hero phone without much demand. HTC has done a great job of marketing the One, and everyone knows Moto. The G2 on display at the Verizon store is jammed between an iPhone and an older model Samsung something-or-other with no signage other than a huge "Samsung Galaxy" poster on the wall behind it.
If I keep this, it will be the third device in a row that I've bought as a "flagship" which wound up getting the cold shoulder in many ways.
First I had the HTC Incredible, probably the most popular of the bunch. While it did have ROM development, it was quickly forgotten when the HTC EVO came out seemingly a week later. Accessories were few and far between.
Second was the Galaxy Nexus, heralded as a "Google experience" device on Verizon. After endless launch delays, it came out and was quickly forgotten by Verizon and Google both. Accessories were few and far between.
Now I have the LG G2, a great device with awesome specs! I actually don't mind the Verizon/LG "skin" on this so much. But again, Verizon had to **** it up with changing the buttons and making the thing thicker. Accessories will be practically nil for this device other than the three cases from Verizon at launch. There will be countless Chinese imports that will claim to fit but will not, because the back-alley factories making this crap don't give a damn about doing anything per spec. Just make it look vaguely correct and slap a knock off hello-kitty design on the back and call 'er done! "Your Happy Plastic Partner" indeed!
I am also afraid that development will completely stall on this device because everyone will head to the Nexus 5...
Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
The moto x isn't selling well (att rep who owns a moto x said he hasn't been able sell a single one) HTC marketing well, are you kidding? They are losing money head over heels even with the one. They only thing with LG is, they have a very small market share they are not Apple or Samsung.
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This forum seems pretty active. I think anyone who develops knows about the phone. Give it some time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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This forum seems pretty active. I think anyone who develops knows about the phone. Give it some time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Yep. Welcome to new xda forum syndrome. This is what a new device forum looks like the first week ?
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DeaconBoogie said:
Got the G2 on launch day from a Verizon store here in town. Phone is great, no doubt about that. What worries me is that this appears to be a hero phone without much demand. HTC has done a great job of marketing the One, and everyone knows Moto. The G2 on display at the Verizon store is jammed between an iPhone and an older model Samsung something-or-other with no signage other than a huge "Samsung Galaxy" poster on the wall behind it.
If I keep this, it will be the third device in a row that I've bought as a "flagship" which wound up getting the cold shoulder in many ways.
First I had the HTC Incredible, probably the most popular of the bunch. While it did have ROM development, it was quickly forgotten when the HTC EVO came out seemingly a week later. Accessories were few and far between.
Second was the Galaxy Nexus, heralded as a "Google experience" device on Verizon. After endless launch delays, it came out and was quickly forgotten by Verizon and Google both. Accessories were few and far between.
Now I have the LG G2, a great device with awesome specs! I actually don't mind the Verizon/LG "skin" on this so much. But again, Verizon had to **** it up with changing the buttons and making the thing thicker. Accessories will be practically nil for this device other than the three cases from Verizon at launch. There will be countless Chinese imports that will claim to fit but will not, because the back-alley factories making this crap don't give a damn about doing anything per spec. Just make it look vaguely correct and slap a knock off hello-kitty design on the back and call 'er done! "Your Happy Plastic Partner" indeed!
I am also afraid that development will completely stall on this device because everyone will head to the Nexus 5...
Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
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If you're worried about development checck the lg optimus g's thread its still going today http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339403
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razball said:
If you're worried about development checck the lg optimus g's thread its still going today h://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339403
That link is for p.a.
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I feel the op pain I had the G pro witch I felt was the most underrated phone ever and coming from the note 2 it was way better than the note2 and the G pro was DOA LG has zero marketing as well as a very bad reputation of leaving customers out to dry as far as updates. LG makes bad ass phones no doubt but needs a lot of work in marketing and support
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I feel the op pain I had the G pro witch I felt was the most underrated phone ever and coming from the note 2 it was way better than the note2 and the G pro was DOA LG has zero marketing as well as a very bad reputation of leaving customers out to dry as far as updates. LG makes bad ass phones no doubt but needs a lot of work in marketing and support
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True. That's the literal only thing that worries me... updates. Moto x I'm sure will beat g2 to updates (the other phone I have) but that's the only plus for the phone other than size.
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True. That's the literal only thing that worries me... updates. Moto x I'm sure will beat g2 to updates (the other phone I have) but that's the only plus for the phone other than size.
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I'll never own another moto, there like Apple always one or two years behind in hardware, I mean really 720p??!!! Duel core??
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I'll never own another moto, there like Apple always one or two years behind in hardware, I mean really 720p??!!! Duel core??
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Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
I have used the moto x and can tell you the 720 display and processor really are fine. The software enhancements kick total ass. That being said this phone Absolutely destroys it on every front. I absolutely hate amoled. Way too dim.
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Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
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I agree with u on price, but every moto sense the OG X has been one step behind with there flagship phones
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Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
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This. Everything is fine with the moto x, and I'd still be using it if the battery was decent but lately I've been getting idle drain that I can't figure out. As for amoled, it's great indoors, terrible outside. If LG steps their game up with update frequency I have no problem keeping this phone for a long time. Same goes for the moto x if I was somehow getting the 5+ hours of screen on time per day some people are reporting. Oh, and one grip with lg. Why is there not an option to make the buttons on the bottom like aosp to have the recent apps button and not just the menu...
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If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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And the fact that they aren't as high profile as the other brands might mean it's easier to unlock
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If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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I hope so, it was sad to see the G pro DOA. I'm still holding out to see what Scott does, I'm sure the FreeG guys will get the bootloader bypassed
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Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
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No, you do NOT want an HTC One. I just sold my One for the G2...the G2 completely destroys the One in every way except for speakers and construction material, which are two minor things IMO since I prefer using headphones and the G2 feels solid/premium even though it's not metal. The One IS a great phone, but not as great as the G2. I really don't care if the G2 isn't bought in mass by the masses because I know I have a great phone and that's all that matters. I will be a little disappointed if there aren't many custom roms, but I'm OK with that because the stock rom is super smooth and customizable, plus I will be less tempted to constantly swap roms if there aren't many available
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. Oh, and one grip with lg. Why is there not an option to make the buttons on the bottom like aosp to have the recent apps button and not just the menu...
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Maybe it's just me, but I'm starting to like the menu button instead of the multi tasking one. I don't have to look around for that 3 dot menu button on the screen anymore.
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And the fact that they aren't as high profile as the other brands might mean it's easier to unlock
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Wishful thinking, but if its true I'm an LG fan from now on. Maybe since they made and/or making the new nexus they are more lenient to unlocked bootloaders?
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Wishful thinking, but if its true I'm an LG fan from now on. Maybe since they made and/or making the new nexus they are more lenient to unlocked bootloaders?
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Actually I think the blame for locked bootloaders falls on the carriers, not the manufacturer. S4 is unlocked but not on VZW, etc.
LG will do whatever VZW tells them (or lets them). But VZW may not care if they really dont think this phone will sell well, or if they arent marketing it very much (which, as we can tell, they are NOT)
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Actually I think the blame for locked bootloaders falls on the carriers, not the manufacturer. S4 is unlocked but not on VZW, etc.
LG will do whatever VZW tells them (or lets them). But VZW may not care if they really dont think this phone will sell well, or if they arent marketing it very much (which, as we can tell, they are NOT)
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They aren't marketing it AT ALL. I've seen some Droid Maxx commercials though and an even recent Moto X commercial but zero for the LG G2.

Cellphone ownership and you...

I have now owned the G2 for only 2 weeks and it has been out for nearly 7 months. I have never been more excited about a phone since owning a Note 2...
I have owned 5 devices (Note 2, Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Moto G, Optimus G, Galaxy Nexus - in no particular order.) in the past year and none of them have ever gave me the wow factor that the G2 has given. I believe I will own the G2 until it be breaks...
With this year's release of new flagship devices, do you find yourself wanting to upgrade?
The point of this thread is to ask you guys, "do you always upgrade to the next best thing, or do you use your device til it breaks.?"
This is the first time I have felt that a device will suffice for the next few years...
Discuss...
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I really haven't been this amazed by a phone that's for sure...Just like you I have owed many phones this one has impressed me in every category.I believe I will keep or try to at least for 2 years.
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I usually keep my smartphone for at least 2 years because that's the time you're usually bound to your carriers contract over here in germany, after that you can get discounts on new phones if you prolong your contract
I wouldn't exactly say i'm a smartphone nerd although i like to play with custom roms and stuff but i was really excited to get the G2.
I had the old galaxy S Plus before the G2 and of course that's a huge difference. But the only thing i really needed the G2 for was the better camera and gaming performance, for everything else the S Plus with CM 10.2 was good enough for me and my wife is still using it.
I guess i'll keep the G2 for at least 2 years because i can hardly find anything i don't like about it except no sd slot and no changeable battery but i don't really need that since i got the 32 GB version and the battery life is good (if you don't play game a lot that is).
Looking forward to the G3, should qualify for a Jump upgrade by the time T-Mobile gets it
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Sounds like most of you guys are pretty satisfied with the G2.
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I'm satisfied with G2 too. Maybe the 1st device I didn't try to root & install custom rom the moment I bought it. I used to be attached to Samsung phones so G2 is the 1st break for me. Well, I'm glad I made the break!
About not changing the phone, well that depends on how LG rolls out updates in future. I might just get fed up & change to other brand if support for update is scarce like now.
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Tbh the G2 is still the best phone on the market, including the HTC M8 and SGS5. There really is no reason to change unless you simply want to. Nothing that has come out this year is worth any out of pocket expense. Perhaps when the Note 4 is released this fall, then maybe.. if you like Samsung. Even then, I think we have reached a temporary lull in smartphones where anything new is a very, very slight improvement. I wouldn't switch until something blows me away, and nothing so far has.
As crazy as this may sound to some I honestly dont know how anyone can
A) have only one device at a time
B) hang onto to it without at least upgrading to something else after some time.
I bought 5 devices in 2013 all of them outright...still have 3 of them (G2, Note 3, S4)..and so far this year these have my attention:
G3
G flex (if it had sd card support id have it already)
G pro 2
Z2
and thats so far and its not even april yet lol..probably end up with 3 or more new ones this year even though I had wanted to slow down a bit...but whats a guy to do lol?
Theres guys who go through alot more devices than me around here though...u know who you are!
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force70 said:
As crazy as this may sound to some I honestly dont know how anyone can
A) have only one device at a time
B) hang onto to it without at least upgrading to something else after some time.
I bought 5 devices in 2013 all of them outright...still have 3 of them (G2, Note 3, S4)..and so far this year these have my attention:
G3
G flex (if it had sd card support id have it already)
G pro 2
Z2
and thats so far and its not even april yet lol..probably end up with 3 or more new ones this year even though I had wanted to slow down a bit...but whats a guy to do lol?
Theres guys who go through alot more devices than me around here though...u know who you are!
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That makes no sense unless you are getting them for free and being paid to review them.
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That makes no sense unless you are getting them for free and being paid to review them.
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Nope I just like new devices....I get bored easily.
Why limit yourself to one device when its easy enough to have a few?
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force70 said:
Nope I just like new devices....I get bored easily.
Why limit yourself to one device when its easy enough to have a few?
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2. Money
I also go through phones very quickly but I have never owned more than one at a time. I just enjoy a change every now and then, sold my note 2 for the LG G2 and now I'm looking at selling the LG G2 for a HTC one M8 or just buying the device to use alongside my LG G2 since I'm not sure if i could let this phone go xD.
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First one made me lol sorry. another passion of mine is loud, high horsepower, highly modified gas guzzling v8 powered muscle cars so it kinda goes over my head.
Second one yes...I get that part...everyone has different levels of what they can afford, absolutely.
I am very fortunate that i am able to support my hobbies..I dont ever lose sight of that.
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totalfailz said:
I also go through phones very quickly but I have never owned more than one at a time. I just enjoy a change every now and then, sold my note 2 for the LG G2 and now I'm looking at selling the LG G2 for a HTC one M8 or just buying the device to use alongside my LG G2 since I'm not sure if i could let this phone go xD.
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Yeah I love my G2...dont know if I can part with it...LG hit it out of the park for sure. Im still regretting selling my Note 2..that was also a great device.
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force70 said:
First one made me lol sorry. another passion of mine is loud, high horsepower, highly modified gas guzzling v8 powered muscle cars so it kinda goes over my head.
Second one yes...I get that part...everyone has different levels of what they can afford, absolutely.
I am very fortunate that i am able to support my hobbies..I dont ever lose sight of that.
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Yeah I love my G2...dont know if I can part with it...LG hit it out of the park for sure. Im still regretting selling my Note 2..that was also a great device.
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I don't regret selling my note 2 xD I just miss the 9300Mah battery I had, that thing could last for days even with my heavy usage.
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Oooh, so Mother Nature needs a favor?! Well maybe she should have thought of that when she was besetting us with droughts and floods and poison monkeys! Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she’s losing. Well I say ‘hard cheese.’
totalfailz said:
I also go through phones very quickly but I have never owned more than one at a time. I just enjoy a change every now and then, sold my note 2 for the LG G2 and now I'm looking at selling the LG G2 for a HTC one M8 or just buying the device to use alongside my LG G2 since I'm not sure if i could let this phone go xD.
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I went to verizon and played with it.
Very nice. But nothing to leave the G2 for. Haha
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Jooosty said:
I went to verizon and played with it.
Very nice. But nothing to leave the G2 for. Haha
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I hope so because I am not sure my wallet could take me buying the M8 but temptation always get the better of me >.<
Just got a G2 today. Since I immediately installed SlimKat on it, it's pretty much identical to the Nexus 4 its replacing but with a bigger screen and better camera. Progress marches on. Before that I had a One X running AOKP and before that a Motorola Atrix running CM10. As Android gets better, the hardware it's running on seems to matter less and less with each new phone for me... The G2 is nice though. Battery life and the contrastier LCD really swung it for me vs. the Nexus 5. The only thing I don't like is that it looks sorta Samsung-ish... And I have an irrational hatred of Samsung.
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I got the G2 a few weeks ago because I dropped my S4 and the screen shattered. I used my son's upgrade, so I can still get the G3 in a few months I'll give him the G2 when it does.
Neither S5 nor M8 is attractive enough for me to upgrade from my G2. The only regret I have, since I just bought it 3 weeks ago is how I missed the buzz of One Plus One. Had I known it earlier, I might will wait for its release before buying this monster. LG did well with this phone and I wonder why the demand for G2 is quite low. It's a well rounded device and cost me less than an S4 here in my country (we don't have carrier contracts here and purchase the phone outright).

[Q] would you upgrade to the m8 for free (with contract)?

Hey guys!
So I've had the DNA for a while now and I love it. Even today it's still a really great phone but mine does have some issues (ear speaker doesn't work, power button is a little iffy most of the time, the battery doesnt last long at all, and there's about 10 or so dead pixels) and I was wondering what your guys thoughts on signing a 2 year agreement this late in the year for the m8 if it was basically free? ($0.01 on Amazon right now).
Originally my plan was to keep the DNA until next year's flagship came out, but one cent is a pretty attractive price point even if the phone doesn't have everything I want in a phone (but at this point I'm not sure next year's flagships will either) I'm just not sure I want to sign a new 2 year contract on a phone that's 8 months old.
So what would you guys do in this situation? Stick with the DNA or grab the m8 and sign the 2 year agreement?
Zach092 said:
Hey guys!
So I've had the DNA for a while now and I love it. Even today it's still a really great phone but mine does have some issues (ear speaker doesn't work, power button is a little iffy most of the time, the battery doesnt last long at all, and there's about 10 or so dead pixels) and I was wondering what your guys thoughts on signing a 2 year agreement this late in the year for the m8 if it was basically free? ($0.01 on Amazon right now).
Originally my plan was to keep the DNA until next year's flagship came out, but one cent is a pretty attractive price point even if the phone doesn't have everything I want in a phone (but at this point I'm not sure next year's flagships will either) I'm just not sure I want to sign a new 2 year contract on a phone that's 8 months old.
So what would you guys do in this situation? Stick with the DNA or grab the m8 and sign the 2 year agreement?
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Guess i would have a couple of questions, 1 is there a new flagship coming and if so what is it and when is it coming? I have an upgrade also and have not heard of a new HTC phone in the works. Tough choice, wait for HTC or look at 1 of the other companies new phones. Good luck
Hope this isn't considered a hijack of your thread, but I'm also considering a move to the One M8. Also currently on a DNA that is still performing well. I have a free upgrade available, but looks like I will need to use it by the end of December. On a corporate plan, and looks like the purchase of new phones by the company will end in January and be up to the employee to purchase.
Looking for recommendations on best options between now and end of the year. I like the DNA size and don't know that I would want to significantly larger. I also like the wireless charging. Being able to root is also preferred, and since I'm currently running a One ROM on the DNA, that would be an easy transition. However, I share the same concern of purchasing an "older" model at this point, but doesn't look like the M9 will be out before end of year. I really haven't done a lot of due-diligence studying at this point and would appreciate any input.
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Hope this isn't considered a hijack of your thread, but I'm also considering a move to the One M8. Also currently on a DNA that is still performing well. I have a free upgrade available, but looks like I will need to use it by the end of December. On a corporate plan, and looks like the purchase of new phones by the company will end in January and be up to the employee to purchase.
Looking for recommendations on best options between now and end of the year. I like the DNA size and don't know that I would want to significantly larger. I also like the wireless charging. Being able to root is also preferred, and since I'm currently running a One ROM on the DNA, that would be an easy transition. However, I share the same concern of purchasing an "older" model at this point, but doesn't look like the M9 will be out before end of year. I really haven't done a lot of due-diligence studying at this point and would appreciate any input.
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No worries about hijacking the thread, I personally prefer the m8 to anything else on the market right now. Of all the smartphones that I've owned or worked with I personally prefer the look/feel of HTC phones, and sense is really the only android UI that I like. That being said, the M8 is definitely not top of the line spec wise anymore.
MKBHD says that the Droid Turbo is the best phone you can buy on Verizon at the moment. I personally haven't used the phone or looked into it but motorola phones tend to be very Vanilla in terms of their UI. It has a huge battery and both Quickcharge 2.0 and wireless charging. The screen is 5.2 inches so its not that much larger than the DNA, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the phone itself was the same size/slightly smaller than the DNA. The one thing to keep in mind is that it has a quad HD screen, which tend to be extremely power hungry, but again theres that huge battery that charges fast.
My girlfriend has a m8, and I've been playing around with it a little bit recently, I don't think you'll notice a huge performance difference between the phones in everyday use, Its also likely that if you got the m8 it would come with an older software version than the current OTA, so you would most likely be able to root it right away, but if thats not the case the sunshine guys are working on an s-off method for the newest OTA. The only thing that you might miss with the M8 is the wireless charging.
The phone is still a good phone, the reason that I was hesitating is because I'm excited about the technology that will "possibly" be out next year. The things that I am really looking for in a phone are a 64 bit processor (maybe 3-4 gigs of ram...but I don't do a ton of multitasking so I would be perfectly happy with 2) and the antiglare gorilla glass. My problem is that I really don't care for/need a quad HD display and most of the new phones are likely going to have them.

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