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*WARNING* - There have been at least two known hard bricks using this method. It has worked successfully for many people, including myself three times. However, with two hard bricks, this isn't something to go into without at least considering the possibility. The standard warning has always been in this thread (second paragraph), but consider yourself doubly warned. Now that we have root and TWRP on 5.0 stock, this method is all but obsolete. We're just waiting on the good devs to bring us superb Lollipop stock ROMs like SkyDragon by @HolyAngel and Jasmine by @hsbadr. Once those are out, this method should really only be used if you need "official" software on your phone. Or you can just wait for Verizon to push the actual OTA, which is probably technically safer than any custom flashing methods there are.
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**NOTE** - There are two stellar custom-stock ROMs here in the form of Jasmine v.5.0 and SkyDragon 3.0.0. There is no longer any need to use this method to upgrade to stock LP unless you just really need the software status to say "official". Download link & instructions at the following links:
SkyDragon G3 VS985 Edition Version 3.0.0
JasmineROM v5.0 Release [LP] [Stock] [Rooted] [Unmodified]
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Are you still here after reading that warning and looking at the great custom options? Read post # 148, then, if you really insist on being so daring as to try an obsolete method, I guess proceed on. Best of luck to you.
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For starters, this thread may be deemed unnecessary and/or redundant. If so, please accept my apologies and mods feel free to close the thread. This is an extension of this thread started by @annoyingduck. It's a start-to-finish way to flash 23A and keep all your apps. Rather than linking threads here, there and everywhere, I've compiled everything and put it all in one place, to try and keep down the number of questions in that thread (which is really supposed to be for devs to assist them in getting the info they need to make the wonderful stock ROMs we've all come to know and love). NONE of this information is original to me. I'm not that smart. All credit goes to the respective posters listed below.
Now, the usual disclaimer - I am not responsible if you brick your device by using any or all methods outlined below. They worked for me. They may or may not work for you. If you go down this path, you do so at your own risk and/or peril. Don't come crying to me in the unlikely event you can't figure it out or kill your phone!
Also, please take note right here right now, as this question will never be answered again by me in this thread. There is currently NO ROOT on 23A. Root will NOT be retained when you upgrade (in fact, it will be lost at the 12B KDZ step). Further, we do NOT know how to root stock Lollipop on Verizon at this point. So to answer your questions: NO, you will not have root on 23A at all, period, no matter what, until some smart dev is able to come up with a way to root it.
The good news is that you can downgrade back to 10B (the only root-able version) at any time and get back to rooted goodness and flashing rooted stock-KK or AOSP-Lollipop. I'm hopeful we'll get root eventually for stock Lollipop, but it's too soon for that.
First, you need to download several files. The first several have to do with KDZ'ing back to 10B, followed by 12B (you WILL LOSE DATA going back to 10B...back up everything!).
Things you will need:
Drivers from LG for the G3.
Two files from this download page - the 10B KDZ file (VS98510B_01.kdz) and the 23A update file (LG_VS985_12B-23A.dlpkgfile).
NEW 3/6/15 - The 23B (should be an OFFICIAL LP build) update is available here. Same as before, rename to .up and put it in the Software Update folder. Update from 12B stock.
The 12B KDZ file. (Alternate mirror.)
The LG Flash Tool 2014 (originally from this thread).
Now that you have those, we can move on to the directions. To KDZ back to 10B (followed by 12B after a few interim steps), you need to follow the procedure outlined here by annoyingduck. I'm quoting everything so it's all in one post, but linking back so those who made it get all the credit.
When flashing the 10B KDZ, you must use the "CSE Flash" option, because you're downgrading and getting rid of everything on your phone. You will lose ALL data, so copy your TiBu folder, your photos, files, etc. elsewhere first.
annoyingduck said:
-First remove any of the .tot flashing tools/programs that you may have already installed as they will conflict with the KDZ flashing tool.
-Download and install the latest LG drivers for your phone here (FYI I am linking the LG site directly instead of the file to ensure that you download the current up-to-date drivers): http://www.lg.com/us/support-mobile/lg-VS985-Metallic-Black
-Download the VS985 10b KDZ file from here: http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G3/VS985 and thank @autoprime in whatever manner you deem fit.
-*New* Mirror for 10b.01 KDZ: https://mega.co.nz/#!7ERgXJbI!2KxATJt7q-HWvAPbTfVrT3wGuwPjWCw70N65MVlgfWg md5: d228ba692ef0c4704cba0b00fad8b8ce
-Download the LG Flash Tool 2014 from this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797190 and be sure to thank @quangnhut123 for his efforts. Also read that thread a bit so you understand how to fully use the tool exactly, but I will outline the process below.
-Extract the .zip folder to wherever you wish to keep it (desktop, downloads, etc).
-Copy the 10b KDZ file (or whatever KDZ your flashing) into the LG Flash Tool folder
-Power off your phone completely, hold volume up, plug in the usb cable, wait for any drivers to load, and you should then be in Download Mode
-Run LGFlashTool2014.exe (you may need to run as administer as its not an installed program, rather an executed one from wherever you saved the folder).
-You may need to install Visual C++ Runtime Library. If so, refer to the LG Flash Tool thread for more info on obtaining that.
-Select CDMA as your type
-Select Diag as your phone mode
-Select your KDZ file that you copied or pasted into the folder
-Choose the option of CSE Flash (this is a full wipe, you will lose your data). Do not choose Normal Flash when performing a downgrade, nothing good will come from doing that!! Another screen will open, just leave everything the way it is.
-Click the Start button and yet another window will appear showing a language selection screen. Just leave everything the way it is as Korean and hit OK. Don't worry, the tool is already set to flash in English.
-Wait until the Flash is done 100% and unplug/reboot... and that's it
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Ok, now that you're back to 10B, it's time to do some work there. You need to root your phone, install Titanium Backup and restore your backed up apps & their data. I prefer to use the IOroot method. So root, then install all your apps. After that, it's time to update to 12B. You're doing the same thing you did with 10B, except this time you are choosing "Normal Flash", not CSE flash, because you're upgrading. Once you've done that, you will be upgraded to 12B and will have lost root. Here is more from annoyingduck:
annoyingduck said:
-Restore apps, and select system data items you want restored (aka: call log, sms/mms messages, wifi access points, bluetooth pairings) via Titanium
-KDZ to 12b, but this time choose NORMAL flash. No bootloops because it's an upgrade
-Root is now lost, but atleast all your apps and data are already there
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Now we're going to update to 23A using a method described here by justiz33.
justiz33 said:
Do not attempt unless you are sure of yourself and have a high percentage of battery left.
if you are on 12B and NONROOT, you can put the update on /storage/external_SD/SoftwareUpdate/23A.up (**hokie note - FYI, I had to put mine on the internal SD in a SoftwareUpdate folder for this to work; it wouldn't flash when on the external SD card. Don't forget to rename your update downloaded above to "23A.up")
then download and install Activity Launcher (**hokie note - Here's a play store link.)
then in Activity Launcher use the drop down to switch between ALL ACTIVITY.
scroll down to the bottom area and look for either 'Software Update' or com.lge.permission (**hokie note - Mine was titled a little differently, something like com.lge.fotaupdate.permission.)
click the dropdown and expand the list.
look for DmcEzUpdateStart and click it.
You should be on a black screen with FOTA UPDATE written, just sit on that screen and wait 3 min and it will then say 'Shutting Down'
It should reboot and start the update.
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Now we'll let annoyingduck take us home.
annoyingduck said:
-Be prepared to wait a while while all that bloat and user apps optimize in ART!!
-Put your internal sd card data you pulled earlier back on your phone
-Cry now, because its a nice build and your stuck without root. No more saving your app data with Titanium or removing the load of ****e Verizon has put into it...... unless a root method is found.
-You can KDZ or TOT back to stock, re-root, bump recovery, flash 12b radio, and restore your backup if you can't live without root....which I will be doing again shortly because my OCD won't allow me to function with apps like NFL mobile embedded in my phone!! Just wanted to outline a method for you guys.
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So there you have it, you're on Verizon official stock Lollipop (23A) for the G3! Now, there's a lot of bloat on there, which you can disable at will. This is a list of apps that are safe to disable, courtesy roirraW "edor" ehT and typed up by yours truly.
Can Be Uninstalled said:
Farmville
iHeartRadio
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Can Be Disabled said:
Amazon
Amazon app suite
Amazon Kindle
Amazon MP3
Appstore
Audible
Cloud
DT Ignite
FamilyBase Companion
Favorite Contacts Widget
FIle Manager
Google Play Books
Google Play Games
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Music
Google Play Newsstand
Google+
LG TTS+
Message+
Music
Music
My InfoZone
My Verizon Mobile
NFL Mobile
SLacker
Support & Protection
Verizion Location Agent
VZ Navigator
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After disabling most of that (I think I left one or two I use on, like G+, Google Books, etc), my G3 is happily up & running without issue. Some have discovered issues with their installs.
The only issue I've had is gmail not syncing on WiFi. I've tried everything I (and the community) can think of and am unable to fix the no-notifications-on-WiFi bug. Unfortunately I'm not alone, but it doesn't affect everyone. So, be forewarned, this is a semi-widespread bug. Everything else I experienced about this build is absolutely wonderful, save for that one bug.
Once you're done, you should be greeted by some notifications similar to these...and a software info screen that looks like this. With the bloat disabled, Antutu treated me well with a score over 41K. That's without any tweaking at all obviously since there is no root yet. I only miss two things about root - Titanium Backup and the ability to change DPI (to my preferred 600). Aside from that and the bloat (which is disabled), I'm quite happy as it is.
There you have it folks...if you want to be an early stock Lollipop adopter on the Verizon G3, this is how to do it! To answer the other inevitable question, yes you can downgrade back to 10B, root and install bumped TWRP without issue.
Special thanks to @annoyingduck for most everything how-to above, @justiz33 for the easy 12B-to-23A path, @roirraW "edor" ehT for the safe-to-disable list, Team Codefire for the files, @autoprime for IOroot & @quangnhut123 for the LG Flash Tool. If any one of you takes issue with how your posts are represented, please don't hesitate to PM me and I'll do what it takes to fix it.
Last, but not least, please do not quote this entire ginormous post in responses. It's unnecessary and insane. Thanks in advance. :fingers-crossed:
Do you have the MD5 for LG_VS985_12B-23A.dlpkgfile? (The update 12B to 23A MD5sum) i cant seem to find it but mine is
478a14b37b34e353722022e547fb2894
KShion619 said:
Do you have the MD5 for LG_VS985_12B-23A.dlpkgfile? (The update 12B to 23A MD5sum) i cant seem to find it but mine is
478a14b37b34e353722022e547fb2894
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I just downloaded it again on my PC and checked the one on my phone. Both match: 85f01bfdefb4615328a29300a3625b64
Well this is new, and nifty.
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Also, fyi, disabling and re-enabling account sync did NOT fix my Wi-Fi gmail sync problem. Deleting and re-adding my Google account didn't either. Hate it, but I might have to try a factory reset. Perish the thought.
EDIT - Battery life is looking pretty darn good to me too.
I have the world's worst Windows machine and I'm having problems with the LG flash tool working. It just freezes every time I try and use it. I'm currently on the 11c build and with root and TWRP. Could I just restore the stock recovery, take the OTA to 12b, unroot within superuser, and then use the above method to get to lollipop?
jlvlawrence said:
I have the world's worst Windows machine and I'm having problems with the LG flash tool working. It just freezes every time I try and use it. I'm currently on the 11c build and with root and TWRP. Could I just restore the stock recovery, take the OTA to 12b, unroot within superuser, and then use the above method to get to lollipop?
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If you're able to do that, I don't see why it wouldn't work; but I don't think it has been tried, at least that I've seen, so you'd be the guinea pig.
As far as flash tool, do you have any TOT flashing tools/programs installed? Are you sure the driver is properly installed? Try seeing if you can see your device with adb. It comes with the ioroot package linked in the OP. Enable USB debugging, plug it in and set it to internet/ethernet mode. Then launch a command prompt in the adb folder and see if you can see your device by typing "adb devices".
hokiealumnus said:
If you're able to do that, I don't see why it wouldn't work; but I don't think it has been tried, at least that I've seen, so you'd be the guinea pig.
As far as flash tool, do you have any TOT flashing tools/programs installed? Are you sure the driver is properly installed? Try seeing if you can see your device with adb. It comes with the ioroot package linked in the OP. Enable USB debugging, plug it in and set it to internet/ethernet mode. Then launch a command prompt in the adb folder and see if you can see your device by typing "adb devices".
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Well, I wasn't able to OTA from 11c to 12b. I keep getting an error. My issue with the flash tool is it freezes before the flash process. It freezes at around 7 percent after plugging the phone in. Im pretty sure the drivers are correctly installed.
jlvlawrence said:
Well, I wasn't able to OTA from 11c to 12b. I keep getting an error. My issue with the flash tool is it freezes before the flash process. It freezes at around 7 percent after plugging the phone in. Im pretty sure the drivers are correctly installed.
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Hmm. Sorry; without being at your computer to play with it, there isn't a whole lot I can think of other than the drivers. Did you check whether you can access the phone via adb?
hokiealumnus said:
Hmm. Sorry; without being at your computer to play with it, there isn't a whole lot I can think of other than the drivers. Did you check whether you can access the phone via adb?
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I'll check when I get home and see if adb is working. Thanks for your help.
hokiealumnus said:
The only issue I've had is gmail not syncing on WiFi. I turned off, then re-enabled account syncing. I'll report back if that doesn't fix it when I'm back on WiFi.
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A resolution has been had! Deleting my google account didn't work, nor did toggling sync. What worked was a kind suggestion by @Crsdr37 from the bug thread.
Crsdr37 said:
Use the built in LG backup app. Do a factory reset through settings and your sync issues should be resolved was for me anyways.
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hokiealumnus said:
I'll give that a try, thanks! I honestly just ignored the built-in backup and didn't realize it would do downloaded apps. That's quite handy. Thanks for the tip, I'll report back whether it works. :fingers-crossed:
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hokiealumnus said:
Wow, that worked incredibly well; pretty much equally as good as TiBu. Seems it fixed my gmail-on-wifi issue too. Thanks for the tip!
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Like I said there, that thing is just as good as TiBu. Now the only real reason I miss root is the inability to change DPI. Sure, I'd rather have it de-bloated than have to disable a bunch of stuff, but disabled is nearly as good. I'm very pleased with this build.
Now @hsbadr & @HolyAngel are working diligently to try and get a custom stock ROM going for us, but in the mean time I'm happy to stick it out on unrooted stock. For now.
Thanks - this worked great. Software status says modified, is there a way to change that back since we're stock again?
hokiealumnus said:
Hmm. Sorry; without being at your computer to play with it, there isn't a whole lot I can think of other than the drivers. Did you check whether you can access the phone via adb?
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So this is where I get stuck within the flash tool.
Ignite023 said:
Thanks - this worked great. Software status says modified, is there a way to change that back since we're stock again?
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Huh...good question. Following the path above, mine says Official. Screenshot is here. You're not the first to report that though, so I'm not really sure what makes the difference, sorry.
hokiealumnus said:
Huh...good question. Following the path above, mine says Official. Screenshot is here. You're not the first to report that though, so I'm not really sure what makes the difference, sorry.
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I don't know if this is the case here, but I think I've noticed even someone's rooted and they successfully unroot and restore stock everything, something is left behind and the status is modified, whereas if going straight from completely stock to 23A results in Official.
Sent from my VK810 4G
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I don't know if this is the case here, but I think I've noticed even someone's rooted and they successfully unroot and restore stock everything, something is left behind and the status is modified, whereas if going straight from completely stock to 23A results in Official.
Sent from my VK810 4G
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Very interesting. Using the method in the OP I was indeed rooted on 10B to install my apps with TiBu, then the upgrade to 12B took root away (leaving the apps). I wonder if it has to do with the method for root? Could stump root be different than ioroot maybe?
@jlvlawrence, what method did you use to root on 10B?
hokiealumnus said:
Very interesting. Using the method in the OP I was indeed rooted on 10B to install my apps with TiBu, then the upgrade to 12B took root away (leaving the apps). I wonder if it has to do with the method for root? Could stump root be different than ioroot maybe?
@jlvlawrence, what method did you use to root on 10B?
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Mine's on official. I wasn't sure until I checked. I had my apps installed with Titanium Backup under 12B before I flashed the OTA. After trying it out I found my WIFI was constantly trying to turn on, so I did a factory reset and it was good after that.
I used Stump under 10B, for the record.
My phone overall seems snappier from the factory reset. It's probably a good idea for folks to so, period.
KDZ to 10B, root & restore apps, KDZ to 12B, initiate OTA to 23A, backup with LG utility, factory reset, login and restore from LG backup.
Sounds like a lot, but it is worth it, at least IMHO.
hokiealumnus said:
My phone overall seems snappier from the factory reset. It's probably a good idea for folks to so, period.
KDZ to 10B, root & restore apps, KDZ to 12B, initiate OTA to 23A, backup with LG utility, factory reset, login and restore from LG backup.
Sounds like a lot, but it is worth it, at least IMHO.
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Doesn't 12B have the LG Backup too? Save restoring with TB if so. Might have to play with this.
Huh, not sure.
...and darnit, not getting notifications again. There must be something in the backup. I'll try it again and only back up my apps with nothing else and see if that fixes it.
I know it successfully got an email before restoring the backup. Hmm. Might have to just download the apps fresh the lollipop way. Hate to lose that data though.
hokiealumnus said:
Huh, not sure.
...and darnit, not getting notifications again. There must be something in the backup. I'll try it again and only back up my apps with nothing else and see if that fixes it.
I know it successfully got an email before restoring the backup. Hmm. Might have to just download the apps fresh the lollipop way. Hate to lose that data though.
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Keep us posted if you make any progress on eliminating the quirks.
I bought a pre-owned g3 that was rooted already. I don't know how but in the meantime of me getting it it was updated to lollipop. When I got it I tried to root it. My pc can't find the driver I tried everything and along the way got a error that android security on 5.0 and newer won't allow it?
I went into twrp recovery and erased everything until it went into a loop of lg start page. Previous owner sent sd to I flashed back to previous update on twrp.
This is what I have now
ver 4.4.4
baseband unknown
kernel 3.4.0=g819e680
bliss version 4.4.4.002
bliss stalk rom
I have had rooted phones all the way back to htc thunderbolt so this all isn't new to me, but I have never seen being able to go backwards like this with an update.
I don't know where to go from here. It is rooted per root checker but does not seem as fast as the un rooted lollipop I used the last few days. Since this phone is new to me any help this girl can get would be GREATLY appreciated. Please please please help
Thanks in advance.
incoehoots said:
I bought a pre-owned g3 that was rooted already. I don't know how but in the meantime of me getting it it was updated to lollipop. When I got it I tried to root it. My pc can't find the driver I tried everything and along the way got a error that android security on 5.0 and newer won't allow it?
I went into twrp recovery and erased everything until it went into a loop of lg start page. Previous owner sent sd to I flashed back to previous update on twrp.
This is what I have now
ver 4.4.4
baseband unknown
kernel 3.4.0=g819e680
bliss version 4.4.4.002
bliss stalk rom
I have had rooted phones all the way back to htc thunderbolt so this all isn't new to me, but I have never seen being able to go backwards like this with an update.
I don't know where to go from here. It is rooted per root checker but does not seem as fast as the un rooted lollipop I used the last few days. Since this phone is new to me any help this girl can get would be GREATLY appreciated. Please please please help
Thanks in advance.
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there are some drivers here. try and get it recognized so you can flash back to stock. cant really move forward until you get rid off all that mess.
^ What @bweN diorD said. Does sound like an awful mess and you need to get back to 100% stock and go from there.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
^ What @bweN diorD said. Does sound like an awful mess and you need to get back to 100% stock and go from there.
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bweN diorD said:
there are some drivers here. try and get it recognized so you can flash back to stock. cant really move forward until you get rid off all that mess.
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I have tried everything even now I can't get the drivers to recognize. I am so frustrated.
incoehoots said:
I have tried everything even now I can't get the drivers to recognize. I am so frustrated.
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use a different comp.
there is no way either tot or kdz wont see the phone unless something else is going on you havent told us. its not going to flat out not see the phone for no reason.
Are you using the original USB cable?.
incoehoots said:
I have tried everything even now I can't get the drivers to recognize. I am so frustrated.
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First, with your phone connected to your pc open the device manager. If there is anything that looks like an android device uninstall it. Disconnect your phone and Try something like USB deview (google it) and uninstall anything that looks like an LG driver then install the drivers again.
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Are you using the original USB cable?.
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I am using the cord that came with this phone. Not sure if it is original or not.
I was able to flash a newer rom on to this phone seems to be working for now. I don't know what kind of mess I have as others have stated but unless I can figure out how to get back to the lollipop upgraded unrooted spot I have to make something work if that makes sense.
Honestly I wouldn't have updated it to lollipop but it came already updated. Thats when it all started.
I do appreciate all help though I might need to take this one to someone to get help I guess.
Check this video..
http://wn.com/mobile/how_to_unroot_lg_g3!_all_variants_
android-incredible said:
Check this video..
http://wn.com/mobile/how_to_unroot_lg_g3!_all_variants_
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Thanks I am trying this
When you install the latest drivers (2.20 for Verizon LG G3), once you plug the phone in, it could take up to 10 minutes for the drivers to finish installing.
Sent from my VK810 4G
Dear Friends,
I am a US consumer. About to buy a Verizon LG G3. My number # 1 priority in a phone is, more of less development support for a phone. Number of ROMs being developed, how many choices, mods, frequent updates, and etc.
Clearly, the International version D855 is the King. Number 2 is probably D851, the T-Mobile US Variant with the Unlocked bootloader. International versions are expensive and hard to find in America and it's more or less the same for the T-Mobile version.
I browsed the Development section for all G3 variants on XDA, and surprisingly, the number 3 variant is the Verizon, US Model! Which is fine by me, because it can be unlocked and used on AT&T and I am moving to Verizon soon, for the better coverage and LTE speeds.
I am lined up to pull the trigger on buying the Verizon G3, as we speak, but I need some help confirmation from you guys:
1. Is it true, that with the BUMP'd/TWRP recovery, the Verizon G3 is as good as the Unlocked bootloader models, like D851 and D855? If not, what is the difference, disadvantage?
2. How would you rate the Development support for the Verizon variant of the LG G3?
Thank you for your help! I have the seller lined up, please respond as soon as you can, I would really appreciate it!
ProFragger said:
Dear Friends,
I am a US consumer. About to buy a Verizon LG G3. My number # 1 priority in a phone is, more of less development support for a phone. Number of ROMs being developed, how many choices, mods, frequent updates, and etc.
Clearly, the International version D855 is the King. Number 2 is probably D851, the T-Mobile US Variant with the Unlocked bootloader. International versions are expensive and hard to find in America and it's more or less the same for the T-Mobile version.
I browsed the Development section for all G3 variants on XDA, and surprisingly, the number 3 variant is the Verizon, US Model! Which is fine by me, because it can be unlocked and used on AT&T and I am moving to Verizon soon, for the better coverage and LTE speeds.
I am lined up to pull the trigger on buying the Verizon G3, as we speak, but I need some help confirmation from you guys:
1. Is it true, that with the BUMP'd/TWRP recovery, the Verizon G3 is as good as the Unlocked bootloader models, like D851 and D855? If not, what is the difference, disadvantage?
2. How would you rate the Development support for the Verizon variant of the LG G3?
Thank you for your help! I have the seller lined up, please respond as soon as you can, I would really appreciate it!
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Having the bump'd twrp is basically the same thing. No matter which way you get to a custom recovery it's all the same. In my opinion its a great phone to have and pretty hard to screw something up. Sky Dragon and Jasmine are my personal favorites as far as Stock roms go. Unless you want to wait for the G4 i would go ahead and pull the trigger. You won't be disappointed.
Edde3d said:
Having the bump'd twrp is basically the same thing. No matter which way you get to a custom recovery it's all the same. In my opinion its a great phone to have and pretty hard to screw something up. Sky Dragon and Jasmine are my personal favorites as far as Stock roms go. Unless you want to wait for the G4 i would go ahead and pull the trigger. You won't be disappointed.
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This is excellent news bud, thank you! What tripped me up was the fact that the T-Mobile version is so much more expensive... Why exactly ?
One question for you, how would you rate the development support for the Verizon variant? And yes, I'm more interested in CM12 kind of ROMs.
Lastly, if the seller has OTA'd to Lollipop, can I somehow bring it back to the KK firmware in I want that?
Thanks so much for your help again!
ProFragger said:
This is excellent news bud, thank you! What tripped me up was the fact that the T-Mobile version is so much more expensive... Why exactly ?
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Must be that Qi charging antenna sticker... The VZW comes with only the NFC installed, but it is easy and cheap to upgrade.
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One question for you, how would you rate the development support for the Verizon variant? And yes, I'm more interested in CM12 kind of ROMs.
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I have to say that it is pretty excellent. Lots of support just for the VZW variant on the AOSP side and many of the goodies from the main LG G3 thread are also applicable. I find the best phones for hacking up are the ones available on most of the US carriers.
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Lastly, if the seller has OTA'd to Lollipop, can I somehow bring it back to the KK firmware in I want that?
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Easiest way would be to flash a KK stock-based ROM. That way, you go bloat-free, get fixes, and stop the OTA if you're freezing on KK.
epidenimus said:
Must be that Qi charging antenna sticker... The VZW comes with only the NFC installed, but it is easy and cheap to upgrade.
I have to say that it is pretty excellent. Lots of support just for the VZW variant on the AOSP side and many of the goodies from the main LG G3 thread are also applicable. I find the best phones for hacking up are the ones available on most of the US carriers.
Easiest way would be to flash a KK stock-based ROM. That way, you go bloat-free, get fixes, and stop the OTA if you're freezing on KK.
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Thanks for the response, bud. Wireless charging really hasn't been a factor me, so far, so it's a non-issue. Good to hear of the VZW Dev support, although I'd have to say it's probably because someone found a way to "bump" or install Custom Recovery on a locked Bootloader, which is every phone on Verizon ! Too bad, because these LTE phones are factory unlocked for Global use, but so crippled, thanks to the bootloader non-sense. I wish the exploit extended to the Note lines or even HTC phones.
This is one reason why we see most of the T-Mobile variants selling like hot cakes, even though Sprint has that as well, the supported GSM functionality and bands are just not there.
I assume doing a simple Stock ROM flash via the LG Flash Tools, or "KDZ" is the way to get back to KK, if wanted? No downgrade issues like Notes, correct? Apparently, you can't downgrade the bootloader on those once moved to LP ...
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Thanks for the response, bud. Wireless charging really hasn't been a factor me, so far, so it's a non-issue. Good to hear of the VZW Dev support, although I'd have to say it's probably because someone found a way to "bump" or install Custom Recovery on a locked Bootloader, which is every phone on Verizon ! Too bad, because these LTE phones are factory unlocked for Global use, but so crippled, thanks to the bootloader non-sense. I wish the exploit extended to the Note lines or even HTC phones.
This is one reason why we see most of the T-Mobile variants selling like hot cakes, even though Sprint has that as well, the supported GSM functionality and bands are just not there.
I assume doing a simple Stock ROM flash via the LG Flash Tools, or "KDZ" is the way to get back to KK, if wanted? No downgrade issues like Notes, correct? Apparently, you can't downgrade the bootloader on those once moved to LP ...
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Yes, you can either use the "kdz", or " tot" methods of restoring back to software version 10B (the initial stock software that is easily rootable/unlockable using stump and bump). I personally prefer the tot method, but that probably because I've got a Win 7 computer ( Win 8 has apparently caused some issues for some using the tot method), and its the first method that came out that I used so just stuck with it, but either would work great. And no, no downgrade nonsense or risk of bricks, regardless of firmware it comes on (at least as of this writing lol)
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Yes, you can either use the "kdz", or " tot" methods of restoring back to software version 10B (the initial stock software that is easily rootable/unlockable using stump and bump). I personally prefer the tot method, but that probably because I've got a Win 7 computer ( Win 8 has apparently caused some issues for some using the tot method), and its the first method that came out that I used so just stuck with it, but either would work great. And no, no downgrade nonsense or risk of bricks, regardless of firmware it comes on (at least as of this writing lol)
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This is excellent news and response, bud, thanks! Although, from a little bit of reading around here, I have heard of at least a few instances of people restoring stock firmware and in the process, somehow magically clearing out their IMEI to 0 !!! Is this actually true and a common occurrence? I heard their is a process to correct is via QPST, but it is arduous.
I wish someone did a video of Root + TWRP from starting to end for the LG G3 (Verizon version). Seeing how this will be my first LG phone, terms still confuse me, like Root method names, what exactly does "stump" or "bump" mean, and yeah, getting TWRP on there.
There is also a one-click TWRP installer for the VZW G3 on the Playstore? Is that true? Is that the same as having Bumped TWRP? Thanks!
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This is excellent news and response, bud, thanks! Although, from a little bit of reading around here, I have heard of at least a few instances of people restoring stock firmware and in the process, somehow magically clearing out their IMEI to 0 !!! Is this actually true and a common occurrence? I heard their is a process to correct is via QPST, but it is arduous.
I wish someone did a video of Root + TWRP from starting to end for the LG G3 (Verizon version). Seeing how this will be my first LG phone, terms still confuse me, like Root method names, what exactly does "stump" or "bump" mean, and yeah, getting TWRP on there.
There is also a one-click TWRP installer for the VZW G3 on the Playstore? Is that true? Is that the same as having Bumped TWRP? Thanks!
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I can't speak to the IMEI clearing as being a "common" issue....I've restored at least 5 different phones using the tot method, several multiple times and never once had an issue. I do, however, maintain a backup in the cloud of the EFS partition (same basic thing I think? I just know it's an important partition lol) for every phone I oversee and have messed with.
As for your question about stump/bump/etc., there are several different root methods out now...."Stump root" was just the name of the first - and so it's what I've always stuck with. "Bump", on the other hand, is the method for "unlocking" the bootloader and flashing TWRP.
As for the play store 'auto' app, I hadn't even heard of it until you said something and I searched. I'm assuming you're talking about this. All I can say is that I've never used it so I have no idea. Below I've laid out the steps that I, personally, follow each and every time I've gotten a new device or restored one. I realize there may be simpler ways out there now, but I've been in this specific community since the very beginning, and so I've just stuck with the "tried and true" stuff that came out first.
As for the one click TWRP installer on the play store, again I don't know. However, flashing the "bumped" TWRP via flashify is probably the easiest way to do it (it is not officially stated by the devs to work, but countless people including myself numerous times have confirmed it does).
So, TLDR:
If I were to get a brand new, VS985 today, here is the exact set of steps I would follow (I just got another one 2 weeks ago and these are what I did, and have always done):
1). Use the tot method, found here to restore (downgrade) back to the initial stock release software (version 10B_03). Alternatively, you can use the "kdz" method found here, but on my Windows 7 PC the tot method has always worked like a charm and the one time I used the kdz method it seemed a bit sketchier, but to each their own. I think the main "push" for the kdz method was that some people were having trouble getting the tot method to work on computers w/ Windows 8/8.1.
2). Once that's done, reboot and do minimal setup, then use stump root (found here) to root. Follow the directions exactly, and as long as you're on 10B it will still work - it's just been patched in newer software versions. After rooting and rebooting, then install superSU from the play store, open that, update the binary via "normal" method and then reboot once more. After that reboot, uninstall the stump app, you don't need it anymore.
3). Then, install Flashify from the play store. To be safe, I usually open it and make sure I've granted root, then close it and open superSU and make sure it's got the green mark next to it signifying it has full root access (again, just to be sure). Then, download the "bumped" TWRP image from here, and put it somewhere you can find it on your INTERNAL storage (not sure if this is vital, but again, just being safe). Also, for later, download the zip of TWRP 2.8.6.1 from here
4). Use the Flashify file browser to flash that recovery image you just downloaded to the your internal storage. Let it do it's thing, then reboot when it prompts you.
5). You should now boot up into TWRP. Use the install function to update from the TWRP you just flashed (2.8.0.0) to the 2.8.6.1 zip you just downloaded. Then use reboot>recovery to confirm it took.
6). That's pretty much it. With that you're fully rooted + unlocked. Only other thing I would highly recommend at this point is following the guide here to back up your EFS partition, and then store it to your Google drive or dropbox or other cloud storage or somewhere safe lol. If you're gonna stay stock I'd freeze the system update apps, or better use just flash skydragon or jasmine roms as they're great stock-based roms.
Any other questions just let me know.
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I can't speak to the IMEI clearing as being a "common" issue....I've restored at least 5 different phones using the tot method, several multiple times and never once had an issue. I do, however, maintain a backup in the cloud of the EFS partition (same basic thing I think? I just know it's an important partition lol) for every phone I oversee and have messed with.
As for your question about stump/bump/etc., there are several different root methods out now...."Stump root" was just the name of the first - and so it's what I've always stuck with. "Bump", on the other hand, is the method for "unlocking" the bootloader and flashing TWRP.
As for the play store 'auto' app, I hadn't even heard of it until you said something and I searched. I'm assuming you're talking about this. All I can say is that I've never used it so I have no idea. Below I've laid out the steps that I, personally, follow each and every time I've gotten a new device or restored one. I realize there may be simpler ways out there now, but I've been in this specific community since the very beginning, and so I've just stuck with the "tried and true" stuff that came out first.
As for the one click TWRP installer on the play store, again I don't know. However, flashing the "bumped" TWRP via flashify is probably the easiest way to do it (it is not officially stated by the devs to work, but countless people including myself numerous times have confirmed it does).
So, TLDR:
If I were to get a brand new, VS985 today, here is the exact set of steps I would follow (I just got another one 2 weeks ago and these are what I did, and have always done):
1). Use the tot method, found here to restore (downgrade) back to the initial stock release software (version 10B_03). Alternatively, you can use the "kdz" method found here, but on my Windows 7 PC the tot method has always worked like a charm and the one time I used the kdz method it seemed a bit sketchier, but to each their own. I think the main "push" for the kdz method was that some people were having trouble getting the tot method to work on computers w/ Windows 8/8.1.
2). Once that's done, reboot and do minimal setup, then use stump root (found here) to root. Follow the directions exactly, and as long as you're on 10B it will still work - it's just been patched in newer software versions. After rooting and rebooting, then install superSU from the play store, open that, update the binary via "normal" method and then reboot once more. After that reboot, uninstall the stump app, you don't need it anymore.
3). Then, install Flashify from the play store. To be safe, I usually open it and make sure I've granted root, then close it and open superSU and make sure it's got the green mark next to it signifying it has full root access (again, just to be sure). Then, download the "bumped" TWRP image from here, and put it somewhere you can find it on your INTERNAL storage (not sure if this is vital, but again, just being safe). Also, for later, download the zip of TWRP 2.8.6.1 from here
4). Use the Flashify file browser to flash that recovery image you just downloaded to the your internal storage. Let it do it's thing, then reboot when it prompts you.
5). You should now boot up into TWRP. Use the install function to update from the TWRP you just flashed (2.8.0.0) to the 2.8.6.1 zip you just downloaded. Then use reboot>recovery to confirm it took.
6). That's pretty much it. With that you're fully rooted + unlocked. Only other thing I would highly recommend at this point is following the guide here to back up your EFS partition, and then store it to your Google drive or dropbox or other cloud storage or somewhere safe lol. If you're gonna stay stock I'd freeze the system update apps, or better use just flash skydragon or jasmine roms as they're great stock-based roms.
Any other questions just let me know.
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Hey bud,
This is probably the BEST post I have EVER been a recipient of at XDA. And trust me, I have been here since almost 2008! So please accept my deepest gratitude, so detailed, and so patient, really excellent job and excellent member of the community!
I ordered my phone, it is used, so not sure what build it will have, but if it took the OTA, then likely, it's LP and I would have to downgrade to 10b, like you said and then use Stump to Root. Problem is, since we can't backup EFS without Root, or TWRP, rather, it is making me nervous to use the TOT method first, which as I mentioned earlier, I have read, people blowing their IMEIs like that before ...
With that said, I think you have laid everything out nicely for me, just a matter of getting the phone, sitting down, and getting through the process . What would make it easier, is a Rooting method without the downgrade, but that's just me being really nit picky .
The other thought lingering in my head... since this my first LG, do I enjoy a Optimus UI ROM for a bit or go straight for the no nonsense CM12 or 12.1? Do you guys have the non working NFC on CM ROMs as well or other bugs that are common like that? I heard the LG G3 stock ROM got super laggy and heats the phone up!
ProFragger said:
Hey bud,
This is probably the BEST post I have EVER been a recipient of at XDA. And trust me, I have been here since almost 2008! So please accept my deepest gratitude, so detailed, and so patient, really excellent job and excellent member of the community!
I ordered my phone, it is used, so not sure what build it will have, but if it took the OTA, then likely, it's LP and I would have to downgrade to 10b, like you said and then use Stump to Root. Problem is, since we can't backup EFS without Root, or TWRP, rather, it is making me nervous to use the TOT method first, which as I mentioned earlier, I have read, people blowing their IMEIs like that before ...
With that said, I think you have laid everything out nicely for me, just a matter of getting the phone, sitting down, and getting through the process . What would make it easier, is a Rooting method without the downgrade, but that's just me being really nit picky .
The other thought lingering in my head... since this my first LG, do I enjoy a Optimus UI ROM for a bit or go straight for the no nonsense CM12 or 12.1? Do you guys have the non working NFC on CM ROMs as well or other bugs that are common like that? I heard the LG G3 stock ROM got super laggy and heats the phone up!
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Thanks for the compliment What can I say, I've just seen too many crap-tastic tutorials
I understand your concern about the whole imei thing, I'd be the same way had I not done it so many times. Could you link the places where you've seen people wiping out their imeis supposedly? Also, if you're willing to do a little reading, something along these lines MIGHT work just to obtain root while still on STOCK LP (which I'd what I'm assuming it would come on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
If you do go this route and try to root while still on stock and before downgrading so that you can backup the efs partition, then be sure to NOT install twrp unless you do a bunch of reading beforehand as I believe it is the aboot that changed on LP and if you try to flash the twrp images I posted while on stock LP you'll get secure boot errors and have a heck of a mess. IMHO, better to either bite the bullet and do the downgrade straight (as I haven't seen these imei wipes you're noting and I've done several myself with zero issues), OR try and root stock LP, then backup the EFS partition, and THEN downgrade through the steps I posted.
Either way, with the Roms, its pretty much same as normal. I never recommend full stock, as if you're gonna root and unlock, you might as well use it IMHO. Stock is good if your most important things are stability and (at least currently and in my experience) battery life, while aosp based is better if you like the cleaner look, and most customizability. Either way you'll be OK. If you go for stock LG, I'd recommend either jasmine ROM or skydragon ROM. I've used skydragon ROM for a bit and its great if you love stock. I'm more of an aosp guy and so I currently use CM 12.1 and its easily DD stable for me, but not without it's quirks - sometimes the screen double tap to wake doesn't work or screen doesn't come on post-call, sometimes the battery life ain't great, sometimes it runs hot, etc. but all typically good enough for reasonable DD stability. I've started using 777kernel on top of the CM 12.1 flash and the device seems to run a bit cooler.
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Thanks for the compliment What can I say, I've just seen too many crap-tastic tutorials
I understand your concern about the whole imei thing, I'd be the same way had I not done it so many times. Could you link the places where you've seen people wiping out their imeis supposedly? Also, if you're willing to do a little reading, something along these lines MIGHT work just to obtain root while still on STOCK LP (which I'd what I'm assuming it would come on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
If you do go this route and try to root while still on stock and before downgrading so that you can backup the efs partition, then be sure to NOT install twrp unless you do a bunch of reading beforehand as I believe it is the aboot that changed on LP and if you try to flash the twrp images I posted while on stock LP you'll get secure boot errors and have a heck of a mess. IMHO, better to either bite the bullet and do the downgrade straight (as I haven't seen these imei wipes you're noting and I've done several myself with zero issues), OR try and root stock LP, then backup the EFS partition, and THEN downgrade through the steps I posted.
Either way, with the Roms, its pretty much same as normal. I never recommend full stock, as if you're gonna root and unlock, you might as well use it IMHO. Stock is good if your most important things are stability and (at least currently and in my experience) battery life, while aosp based is better if you like the cleaner look, and most customizability. Either way you'll be OK. If you go for stock LG, I'd recommend either jasmine ROM or skydragon ROM. I've used skydragon ROM for a bit and its great if you love stock. I'm more of an aosp guy and so I currently use CM 12.1 and its easily DD stable for me, but not without it's quirks - sometimes the screen double tap to wake doesn't work or screen doesn't come on post-call, sometimes the battery life ain't great, sometimes it runs hot, etc. but all typically good enough for reasonable DD stability. I've started using 777kernel on top of the CM 12.1 flash and the device seems to run a bit cooler.
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Forgive the late response bud, the compliments are well deserved, trust me !
Here's an example of a gentleman losing his IMEI via TOT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/restore-via-tot-wipe-imei-t3033445
Let's hope it's the abnormal and not so normal .
I think let me get the phone I will keep, and will figure it out how to Root and Bump it. This phone I have to return, the item was not as described, but incidentally, came with Android 4.4.2! I imagine a simple Stump and Bump would have worked like a charm here?
In the end, playing with Optimus UI/LG UI, I couldn't find anything really that would make me stay with it. Outside of the camera app, 4K recording, and some minor features which I love, but no one else cares about.. like the Phone Muting and Speaker options in the Notification bar, while on a call. Can you believe, I couldn't even find a replacement app/dialer that could do that on AOSP ROM !?
Since you are a CM12.1 user, can I ask you what works on it and doesn't? NFC? Bluetooth? Knock-on, but NOT Knock Code, correct? IR Blaster? And have you had much luck with Xposed?
Please let me know your thoughts and input? Also, for CM12/12.1, do I need a special kernel for Knock on (and Knock Code) to work? If so, which one?
Thanks again bud!
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In the end, playing with Optimus UI/LG UI, I couldn't find anything really that would make me stay with it. Outside of the camera app, 4K recording, and some minor features which I love, but no one else cares about..
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The stock camera is surely missed, but the screen clarity is still amazing, the removable battery is sizeable, the sound is decent (no boom sound though), and you can slap an external SD card in it for more fun. The real appeal of this is that the hardware setup is pretty awesome for running and testing custom software. The LG stock ROM is really lackluster; a good AOSP ROM makes far better use of it.
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Since you are a CM12.1 user, can I ask you what works on it and doesn't? NFC? Bluetooth? Knock-on, but NOT Knock Code, correct? IR Blaster? And have you had much luck with Xposed?
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Yes, all of this works fine in the 12.1 ROMs I have tested out. You get knock-on and knock-off at the status bar. Quick Remote has been ported and works great. Most things that you might use Xposed to do are integrated in a good AOSP/CM based ROM already. I have not seen a need to install it on AOSP, just stock.
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Please let me know your thoughts and input? Also, for CM12/12.1, do I need a special kernel for Knock on (and Knock Code) to work? If so, which one?
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If the dev baked the feature in, the kernel that comes with it should work.
Just my two cents. I hope it helps!
Pretty much what he said ^^^
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ProFragger said:
Forgive the late response bud, the compliments are well deserved, trust me !
Here's an example of a gentleman losing his IMEI via TOT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/restore-via-tot-wipe-imei-t3033445
Let's hope it's the abnormal and not so normal .
I think let me get the phone I will keep, and will figure it out how to Root and Bump it. This phone I have to return, the item was not as described, but incidentally, came with Android 4.4.2! I imagine a simple Stump and Bump would have worked like a charm here?
In the end, playing with Optimus UI/LG UI, I couldn't find anything really that would make me stay with it. Outside of the camera app, 4K recording, and some minor features which I love, but no one else cares about.. like the Phone Muting and Speaker options in the Notification bar, while on a call. Can you believe, I couldn't even find a replacement app/dialer that could do that on AOSP ROM !?
Since you are a CM12.1 user, can I ask you what works on it and doesn't? NFC? Bluetooth? Knock-on, but NOT Knock Code, correct? IR Blaster? And have you had much luck with Xposed?
Please let me know your thoughts and input? Also, for CM12/12.1, do I need a special kernel for Knock on (and Knock Code) to work? If so, which one?
Thanks again bud!
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See the other guys post, does a pretty fair overview. And thanks for that link....I mean it does show it can happen I guess, although I did also note the OP said in his last response that the 2nd time he toted he didn't have the issue, so he thinks maybe he screwed something up the first time....who knows lol
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Pretty much what he said ^^^
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See the other guys post, does a pretty fair overview. And thanks for that link....I mean it does show it can happen I guess, although I did also note the OP said in his last response that the 2nd time he toted he didn't have the issue, so he thinks maybe he screwed something up the first time....who knows lol
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That would be me.
Yup, the second time around it worked just fine when I flashed back to 10b so I could then take the LP OTA. Of course, now we know that you can use the 12b image to flash back to official KK to take the OTA, or you can now flash the official 23C image that's out there and one-click root it.
Glad my post has been of use. I definitely wanted to share my experience so that others who experience the same issue can then get it rectified.
epidenimus said:
The stock camera is surely missed, but the screen clarity is still amazing, the removable battery is sizeable, the sound is decent (no boom sound though), and you can slap an external SD card in it for more fun. The real appeal of this is that the hardware setup is pretty awesome for running and testing custom software. The LG stock ROM is really lackluster; a good AOSP ROM makes far better use of it.
Yes, all of this works fine in the 12.1 ROMs I have tested out. You get knock-on and knock-off at the status bar. Quick Remote has been ported and works great. Most things that you might use Xposed to do are integrated in a good AOSP/CM based ROM already. I have not seen a need to install it on AOSP, just stock.
If the dev baked the feature in, the kernel that comes with it should work.
Just my two cents. I hope it helps!
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Pretty much what he said ^^^
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See the other guys post, does a pretty fair overview. And thanks for that link....I mean it does show it can happen I guess, although I did also note the OP said in his last response that the 2nd time he toted he didn't have the issue, so he thinks maybe he screwed something up the first time....who knows lol
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That would be me.
Yup, the second time around it worked just fine when I flashed back to 10b so I could then take the LP OTA. Of course, now we know that you can use the 12b image to flash back to official KK to take the OTA, or you can now flash the official 23C image that's out there and one-click root it.
Glad my post has been of use. I definitely wanted to share my experience so that others who experience the same issue can then get it rectified.
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Guys,
I wanted to follow up/close the loop on this thread and thank you guys once again for all your help! I received 12B on my phone, was downloading materials to TOT down to 10B to root with stump, till I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
Worked like a charm, and can save others an hour or two, downloading the stock firmware and etc.
Now I am Rooted, TWRP'd 2.6.8.1, is it?, and efs backedup as well!
This is my first LG ever, so I will use stock ROM on it for a few weeks. It is unbelievable how LITTLE stock ROM support is, compared to the CM stuff, across the board for the G3. Maybe your experience is different, but that is what I have found. For every 5 aosp builds there is one stock ROM. And the Verizon variant is no different, only Jasmin and skydragon available. Please do correct me if I am wrong, and there are more ROMs out there to try? I still can't believe the lack of stock ROMs considering how crucial the camera is on this phone!
Between the sd and Jasmine, I think I will start out sd. Yes Jasmine is smaller and also updated later?, but also a little too complicated to install with separate Zips and stuff. What o you guys think?
Finally, if I go the aosp route, which likely I will in a few weeks, which one do you recommend for best features, updates, and performance/battery life?
Lastly, and possibly the most important question... What camera are you using on your CM ROMs ? I found that Lenovo was the best on my Note 3, best features and quality. Although a battery drain, no 4K, or HDR, and Panorama ... What do you guys think?
Thank you again guys for ALL your help!
ProFragger said:
Guys,
I wanted to follow up/close the loop on this thread and thank you guys once again for all your help! I received 12B on my phone, was downloading materials to TOT down to 10B to root with stump, till I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
Worked like a charm, and can save others an hour or two, downloading the stock firmware and etc.
Now I am Rooted, TWRP'd 2.6.8.1, is it?, and efs backedup as well!
This is my first LG ever, so I will use stock ROM on it for a few weeks. It is unbelievable how LITTLE stock ROM support is, compared to the CM stuff, across the board for the G3. Maybe your experience is different, but that is what I have found. For every 5 aosp builds there is one stock ROM. And the Verizon variant is no different, only Jasmin and skydragon available. Please do correct me if I am wrong, and there are more ROMs out there to try? I still can't believe the lack of stock ROMs considering how crucial the camera is on this phone!
Between the sd and Jasmine, I think I will start out sd. Yes Jasmine is smaller and also updated later?, but also a little too complicated to install with separate Zips and stuff. What o you guys think?
Finally, if I go the aosp route, which likely I will in a few weeks, which one do you recommend for best features, updates, and performance/battery life?
Lastly, and possibly the most important question... What camera are you using on your CM ROMs ? I found that Lenovo was the best on my Note 3, best features and quality. Although a battery drain, no 4K, or HDR, and Panorama ... What do you guys think?
Thank you again guys for ALL your help!
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Nope, no other main stock based Roms for the G3....SD and Jasmine. If I were running stock I'd go SD with the custom kernel packaged with it. As for AOSP, people may disagree with me here, but I just sitck with CM. I like the idea of nightlies and being able to easily find updates from their websites and keep tabs on the progress updates merged, but that's just me. Recently I've been running CM with the 777 kernel, but only because the stock kernel seemed to be running very warm and draining battery a fair bit faster than usual. As for the camera, I again just stick with stock, as I find its good enough for me. I flashed several motorola, lenovo, etc. camera mods but it seemed like all too often it'd either be glitchy beyond measure or would break FFC in certain apps I knew to be otherwise working, etc. So I just started sticking with stock.
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I like focal (altho deprecated) it's in the play store. Lots of camera options.
If you do end up on some non stock roms, and have a dual band router, turn the channel on it to 11. It doesn't fix the wifi problems 100% but it may help.
Also there's plenty of g4 stuff floating around if you look for it.
Also you shouldn't have more than 0.25-0.5%/hr idle drain. If you do then somethings wrong. I'd install better battery stats right away and charge up to full and unplug before bed.
Amplify and greenify help but really the display is your battery culprit. I like cf lumen to help adjust the display from day to night usage.
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Nope, no other main stock based Roms for the G3....SD and Jasmine. If I were running stock I'd go SD with the custom kernel packaged with it. As for AOSP, people may disagree with me here, but I just sitck with CM. I like the idea of nightlies and being able to easily find updates from their websites and keep tabs on the progress updates merged, but that's just me. Recently I've been running CM with the 777 kernel, but only because the stock kernel seemed to be running very warm and draining battery a fair bit faster than usual. As for the camera, I again just stick with stock, as I find its good enough for me. I flashed several motorola, lenovo, etc. camera mods but it seemed like all too often it'd either be glitchy beyond measure or would break FFC in certain apps I knew to be otherwise working, etc. So I just started sticking with stock.
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Random info:
I like focal (altho deprecated) it's in the play store. Lots of camera options.
If you do end up on some non stock roms, and have a dual band router, turn the channel on it to 11. It doesn't fix the wifi problems 100% but it may help.
Also there's plenty of g4 stuff floating around if you look for it.
Also you shouldn't have more than 0.25-0.5%/hr idle drain. If you do then somethings wrong. I'd install better battery stats right away and charge up to full and unplug before bed.
Amplify and greenify help but really the display is your battery culprit. I like cf lumen to help adjust the display from day to night usage.
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Guys, horrible day of flashing.
GPS issues with both SD and Jasmine. Tried both stock and SD kernels, as well as 12B and 23C radios, no dice :'(!
Resurrection Remix, not enough options for me and zero GPS locks :'(!
BlissPop came the closest. Bluetooth worked, Xposed, had the options I wanted, but GPS is still not strong enough indoors, and there is an issue WiFi not autoconnecting on each boot :'(!
Long story short, I think I need to head back to 12B somehow. Can anyone please tell me how? I will TOT to 10B, but then, how do I get to 12B? I can't find the image for it anywhere! Please do help, I need a reliable
working phone tomorrow, porting my number into a new carrier...
Thanks in advance!
Some people have to tot back to get gps working. For me, flashing sky always did the trick. Sometimes it takes longer or a reboot, and even setting gps to gps only (strange huh)?
Didn't u make a TWRP backup of working firmware?
I would seriously try flashing skydragon again. Why do u need gps indoors anyway?
Not sure about the tot but I think u can just take updates. Once u get to 10b please make a TWRP backup if you haven't already.
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Some people have to tot back to get gps working. For me, flashing sky always did the trick. Sometimes it takes longer or a reboot, and even setting gps to gps only (strange huh)?
Didn't u make a TWRP backup of working firmware?
I would seriously try flashing skydragon again. Why do u need gps indoors anyway?
Not sure about the tot but I think u can just take updates. Once u get to 10b please make a TWRP backup if you haven't already.
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Thanks for the quick response bud. I will try SD again, maybe, but for now, I liked how Stock felt out of the box which was 12B. I feel like with rooting, manual debloating, and maybe the CPU thermals mods, I would have a snappy 4.2 device.
I'm stupid, I did not Nandroid the 12B I had . Thought it would be like Samsung, each firmware easily available for download on the Internet to flash via the LG Flash Tools.
I will TOT to 10B tomorrow, but then question is, how do I upgrade or OTA to 12B? Would it give me options on which update to take? Or will it take me to the latest, which is 23C?
Appreciate your help or if anyone can! Thank you!
this is going to be updated for now with all the things i learned, if i provide a post, please thank them
also i want to give big thanks to roirraW "edor" ehT for helping me out ever since i owned my G3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2560614
please thank the OP in each post you visit, i do not take credit, i just make videos to help you all enjoy
if you have any questions feel free to PM me. i get to you when i can
for more videos, or you like to subscribe, you can visit my youtube channel here
https://www.youtube.com/user/lasertechcomputers
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Thank roirraW "edor" ehT for helping me out, you can find him here on my post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...s98547a-downgrade-t3354241/page2#post66261131
the flash tool,, Verizon drivers
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwHeBLVyhdWoTVQ1T0xYZWVsaFE
TOT file
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/development/tot-vs985-10b-share-t2832488
in case you did not see what link i did for the DLL file its in my post but here is the link
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24421527759885198
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i am showing you all how to get stump root (it only works for VS98510B only) how to install SU, busy box, and TWRP. later i be showing you how to upgrade the OS to 12B or 35B using TWRP
hope you all enjoy, when you visit the post please thank them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/orig-development/root-stump-root-lg-g3-sprint-verizon-t2850906
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here is the LG G3 video i promised you all. i hope you enjoy and if you want to skip the long video i have just go to 7:10 to start, i was learning angels and wanted to explain a few things thats all
the video is long but i post time links to pass the first part if you don't care to see it, i did a few cool things with angles and i was explaining a few things, let me know what you all think, did you like the music, was the video cool that it made you want to watch more and learn more, post your thoughts and thank you
my post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/g3-update-root-custom-recovery-t3053439
where i got the image files
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...-img-files-t2966958/post57360121#post57360121
where i got the zip files
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56100153&postcount=1
Music i used on this video
How it Begins by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)
Source: http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/index.html?isrc=USUAN1100200
Artist: http://incompetech.com/
Zoom (found it on youtube)
Monitors (found it on youtube)
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where i got the files
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...m-cyanogenmod-13-0-nightlies-verizon-t3256175
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the post has the info about boot stacks (read if you have another rom installed)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...lease-help-t3378091/post66833379#post66833379
where i got the rom and files
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/development/rom-jasminerom-v1-0-t2904641
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download the lgflashtool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797190
get the verizion drivers http://www.lg.com/us/support-mobile/lg-VS985-Metallic-Black
if the phone is on 47A then get then 47A KDZ the file is called (VS98547A_01_0314_ARB01.kdz) http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G3/VS985/stock_partitions/47A_ARB01/
(i lost the post and it was a pian to get it, if you know the location of the post to get this file please let me know so i can post it to give credit. thanks)
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https://www.reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/3xsef2/how_to_change_resolution_to_1080p_on_g3_aosp_roms/
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Contact laser at
www.facebook.com/laser452
cant get a hold of me asap, tune in to
www.101themix.com
the post explaining Bootstacks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/help/lg-g3-blank-screen-please-help-t3378091
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I used this method and it worked great. (Thanks @roirraW "edor" ehT and @LASERWOLF452) I then used @xdabbeb method to go 35B and worked great too, but then the problems started. It consistently booted up to a blank or unresponsive screen.
-Download mode showed Modified.
-Both TOT and KDZ methods would not flash.
Finally, out of desperation, I set the COM port to 42 and used the TOT method. It finally flashed, but put it in AAT Mini OS., with the Touchscreen test displayed. After waiting 20 minutes, I clicked where the Touchscreen said don't touch.
Then, holding physical power button plus touching "Normal boot (+power)" restarted the phone.
OnedeeTentee said:
I used this method and it worked great. (Thanks @roirraW "edor" ehT and @LASERWOLF452) I then used @xdabbeb method to go 35B and worked great too, but then the problems started. It consistently booted up to a blank or unresponsive screen.
-Download mode showed Modified.
-Both TOT and KDZ methods would not flash.
Finally, out of desperation, I set the COM port to 42 and used the TOT method. It finally flashed, but put it in AAT Mini OS., with the Touchscreen test displayed. After waiting 20 minutes, I clicked where the Touchscreen said don't touch.
Then, holding physical power button plus touching "Normal boot (+power)" restarted the phone.
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Thanks and glad it worked out for you.
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Hey, thanks for instructions. I' going to downgrade to 10B, root, and install CM13. Lets see how it goes. My first attempt to dance with my phone. Hope we will both be alive at the end.
anzori88 said:
Hey, thanks for instructions. I' going to downgrade to 10B, root, and install CM13. Lets see how it goes. My first attempt to dance with my phone. Hope we will both be alive at the end.
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well good luck, sorry for a late reply, i need to sub this thread so i know if anyone comments my post
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Hey,
Its been awhile since ive messed with rooting. My LG G3 is currently running 4b its been off for monthhhhhs. Will this root method still work?
Loyalties said:
Hey,
Its been awhile since ive messed with rooting. My LG G3 is currently running 4b [emoji14] its been off for monthhhhhs. Will this root method still work?
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4b? 24B? Yes, as long as you don't have a "K" variant (look below the battery, for example VS985WK), you can downgrade from any build including 48A.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
4b? 24B? Yes, as long as you don't have a "K" variant (look below the battery, for example VS985WK), you can downgrade from any build including 48A.
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Thanks for covering bro.
LASERWOLF452 said:
Thanks for covering bro.
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You're welcome!
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You're welcome!
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Im trying to get back ony feet. I lost my 3tb hard drive and im going around recollecting the files for all my phones. Was going to make another video but have to push that off to
LASERWOLF452 said:
Im trying to get back ony feet. I lost my 3tb hard drive and im going around recollecting the files for all my phones. Was going to make another video but have to push that off to
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Ah, I know what that's like. I recently lost 6 TB due to the particular cutting edge software RAID solution I was using. I've switched back to Windows (10) Storage Spaces with the ReFS filing system since Microsoft took care of the main problem I had with Storage Spaces on Windows 8, and I learned the PowerShell commands to create a more complex Storage Space than the GUI allows.
Good luck!
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Ah, I know what that's like. I recently lost 6 TB due to the particular cutting edge software RAID solution I was using. I've switched back to Windows (10) Storage Spaces with the ReFS filing system since Microsoft took care of the main problem I had with Storage Spaces on Windows 8, and I learned the PowerShell commands to create a more complex Storage Space than the GUI allows.
Good luck!
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yup i got it sent in to data recovery place to see what the damage is, how much it cost cause there are things in my drive i cant lose, this is who i have looking at it
http://www.drivesaversdatarecovery.com/
LASERWOLF452 said:
yup i got it sent in to data recovery place to see what the damage is, how much it cost cause there are things in my drive i cant lose, this is who i have looking at it
http://www.drivesaversdatarecovery.com/
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I'd appreciate a review of their services once it's all said and done.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I'd appreciate a review of their services once it's all said and done.
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its pricey but i let you know when i pay for it, i dont have the money up front but the guy said he ook at it for free
So, In order to better prepare for the Nougat update whenever Lenovo/Motorola decided to give it's U.S. customers the official OTA, I had decided to Unroot my phone and install Stock firmware official version .64. Went through all the steps, got a No command error screen when trying to get to recovery, also showed Modified in FastBoot mode. Also, I had decided to do this because I was having some irritating Error Report issue always downloading.
Anyway, I learned that I can hold Power then press UP volume button once then release power to get to Recovery despite the "No Command" screen. Also, eventually that I needed to downgrade to .49, then accept the .64 OTA in order to get rid of the "Modified" message in Fastboot Screen. So, went through all the trouble to download the .49 firmware, flashed it, etc. When I got into my phone, I checked for Software updates as soon as I was able, to get the .64 update. But, lo and behold, instead I was gifted with a screen explaining that I would instead be getting Androud 7.0 Nougat. Awesome. I live in California. Was totally not expecting Nougat, because I check almost every day and would never get that long awaited message lol.
So I am surprised. I noticed, when I flashed straight to .64 firmware and checked for Software updates, I Did Not get the Nougat OTA notification. Only with the .49 firmware. I didn't think to take a screen shot, and am currently downloading the Nougat update now. When it is installed, I'll take a screenshot of the firmware version once booted into my phone. It's about time, I'm going to be ordering the G5 for my wife tomorrow, and was a tad bit jealous that it would already come with Android 7.0 lol. Hope this gets the rest of you American users excited, and hope this information helps. You can find a guide how to downgrade here in the forums or google, or at stechguide website. PS- I cannot guarantee nor take responsibility that you will have the same luck to get the OTA as I did. Downgrade at your own discretion.
Notice the firmware version. Joy!
I would have done this if I waited 2 weeks earlier. If more people get it and can confirm, just maybe I will unroot and go back to stock. But I love all the customizations with Resurrection Remix.
selw0nk said:
I would have done this if I waited 2 weeks earlier. If more people get it and can confirm, just maybe I will unroot and go back to stock. But I love all the customizations with Resurrection Remix.
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Had to do a quick search on what Resurrection Remix was, very nice rom it seems!
Doukeyakusha said:
So I am surprised. I noticed, when I flashed straight to .64 firmware and checked for Software updates, I Did Not get the Nougat OTA notification. Only with the .49 firmware. I didn't think to take a screen shot, and am currently downloading the Nougat update now. When it is installed, I'll take a screenshot of the firmware version once booted into my phone. It's about time, I'm going to be ordering the G5 for my wife tomorrow, and was a tad bit jealous that it would already come with Android 7.0 lol. Hope this gets the rest of you American users excited, and hope this information helps. You can find a guide how to downgrade here in the forums or google, or at stechguide website. PS- I cannot guarantee nor take responsibility that you will have the same luck to get the OTA as I did. Downgrade at your own discretion.
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I too didn't get an OTA update notice when I went back to .64 stock/unrooted . So I said the heck with it and went back to Invicta and will stay there. I ran stock nougat flashed via the TWRP flashable files that were available for a while. But when the rubber meets the road, I see no advantages to going through the hassles of downgrading my phone to stock anything given that the features, performance, stability and battery life are far better on various custom ROMS. Not to mention that the security is more up to date. Just my own opinion.
hmmmm..interesting...tempted to try this out
My phone is too new to be rooted (sorry, I no longer do that first day...) After seeing the earlier posts I checked last night, no luck.
Today is another day! New version installing now. NPJ25.93-14 just said, "Hello, Moto". Woohoo!
Peace,
Tom
OTA zip
Does anyone have the OTA files? I suspect I will have to manually flash the files in Fastboot due to earlier impatience (I did nougat soak test and then downgraded back to stock). Now the regular ota keeps giving me error which I am assuming is tied to the gpt.bin error I got when I downgraded. I can't do anything scripted. Gotta install manually from fastboot.
Just for your info... The Amazon ad remover doesn't work after the update. XT1625
Downloading in Austin Texas
Sent from my Moto G (4) using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Has anyone made an image as I need it to unbrick my phone?
Amston said:
Has anyone made an image as I need it to unbrick my phone?
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My wife's just got the update. Mine is unlocked and rooted. If someone can tell me the steps to get back to a position to download the ota, and root again, and pull the image, I'll happily do it. I'm on .48 right now. Looks like I need to relock the bootloader and reload .48 fresh, but I'm not real sure at this point.
downloaded and installed. startup animation was fun. anyone know how to root this build?
fredwinky said:
downloaded and installed. startup animation was fun. anyone know how to root this build?
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I dunno. Try searching the G4+ forum? There is a post that tells you how.
I got the update before the weekend and installed it. Everything went smooth and the changes are very nice. I've noticed the Bluetooth issues I had seem fixed (dropping connections, having to de-pair, power cycle and re-pair). However, one annoying thing still persists and it seems related to Do Not Disturb. Sometimes the audio never comes back after DND. Notifications, touches, calls, they're all silent after DND is turned off. I have to power cycle the phone and then it works. I had this issue on Marshmallow and Motorola advised me to wipe & reset. That took care of the issue but it seems to have come back for now. No other issues that I can find right now.
The only thing I've noticed is with my wifi . Every now and then it doesn't auto connect when returning home. This was reported by a number of people during the soak test but I guess it wasn't important enough because the OTA was released anyway. Also, I previously had the option of connecting with 2.4GHz, 5GHz, or auto. Now there is no option and I've noticed that sometimes I'm connected with 2.4 and sometimes with 5 but it seems to be random.
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fredwinky said:
downloaded and installed. startup animation was fun. anyone know how to root this build?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3484672
Has the instructions to root.
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I'm new to this phone Can anyone give me a link to the ".49 firmware"
I ordered this phone as an early xmas gift for my mother during black friday, got it for $115 32gb unlocked from B&H Photo. Just wanted to mention as a current Nexus 6 owner I'm surprised how this phone is basically pure android with the exception of 2 Moto apps. I was able to upgrade from 6.0 to Nougat out of the box and then the security patches without any issues. Once all updates were done I just erase the device to factory and setup as expected. Jealous it's running faster than my Nexus 6 (and I'm running performance mode using ex kernel manager). Only wish Motorola can reboot the nexus 6 with a bigger screen and fingerprint.