Hello,
I'm back in the Android world after a long time and the Honor 5x will be my daily driver for the foreseen year.
As someone who doesn't rely on streaming services, I thought a 128 MicroSD would be the way to go to maximise storage and be able to carry a significant junk of my music collection.
However, someone reported in a youtube comment, about trouble with a 128 GB card (brand not specified).
I delved a bit more into this issue, and seems to be common with 64GB+ cards, say when you have a Samsung phone and use a non-Samsung card and so on.
Is there anyone here who is using 128 GBs or has a first hand experience with someone who does, and has been able to run with no issues ("automatic unmount and mount" every N-minutes or N-hours is the issue I've read about).
If not, is there anyone running 64 GB with no problems (what brand?).
I appreciate your time.
PD: I don't have the phone yet but since I'm importing it I'd like to score with a good card so to have the full package working day-1.
64 GB PNY black label no problem.
but 128 GB PNY Green Label a lot of issues unexpected SD removed no matter how you format it.
mpsychedelic said:
Hello,
I'm back in the Android world after a long time and the Honor 5x will be my daily driver for the foreseen year.
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@mpsychedelic ... Have used a "SanDisk Ultra" 128 Gb sd card since the first day I received my honor 5X (7 days after it was released on the US market). Absolutely no problems with reading and writing to it. I use SanDisk cards in all my phones and tablets and have never had any problems.
However as far as MY honor 5X is concerned it is the L24 i.e. the US retail model and you specifically mention importing yours which I presume means it could be the Chinese or Asian or Europen versions and I would honestly bear that in mind when deciding which make of 128 card to purchase. If you read through the whole forum you will see many instances (not necessarily concerning sd cards but covering a range of subjects) where problems between the US retail and others exist.
Thank you very much, I appreciate your timely answers as I'm hitting that order button tonight or tomorrow!
rogconnect said:
64 GB PNY black label no problem.
but 128 GB PNY Green Label a lot of issues unexpected SD removed no matter how you format it.
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Ok, so Indeed the PNY seems to be one of the "issue prone" cards, as I've read a lot about problems with those.
Since I'm really pushing towards 128, I guess PNY are out of the equation.
Now I'm torn between a Sandisk and my usual Transcend cards (I use Transcend for my DSLR, GoPro, etc).
metpolds said:
[MENTION=7311093]However as far as MY honor 5X is concerned it is the L24 i.e. the US retail model
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I'm ordering from Amazon US so, should be the US model. And to be 100% sure, the guys from Huawei replied to a question from another user in the article's page:
Hello Valued Customer, the Honor 5X variant for the US is Model KIW - L24. (AI)
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So it's indeed the only version (obvious) and the one holding in my hands.
metpolds, Could you maybe specify the exact model of your card, would you say it's the SDSQUNC-128G-GN6MA? Unfortunately cannot post links (well I could easily go around the BBCodes but won't be a rogue user), but that's the first "Sandisk Ultra 128 GB" result on Amazon, and there is an older version in the second or third result.
Thanks again for your time.
Using sandisk 128 GB and it's working fine
Im using a Silicon Power 128GB with no issues.
Using 128gb san disk with no probs...
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Using Patriot 128 class 10, no problems.
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@mpsychedelic ...Yes that is the one I purchased from Newegg.
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I hear different stories in regards to the SD capacity the G1 can hold. I was wondering if the new Kingston 16gb Class 10 would be okay. Yes I said CLASS 10.
Below is the link to the different SD sizes available:
http://www.kingston.com/flash/sdhc_micro.asp
What do the Hardcore G1 users say?
kadster007 said:
I hear different stories in regards to the SD capacity the G1 can hold. I was wondering if the new Kingston 16gb Class 10 would be okay.
What do the Hardcore G1 users say?
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I use a 16gb Micro SD in my G1 with a 900mb partition for a2sd. You will be fine with 16gb
sadly we've been on the 16gb limit for microSDHC for more then a year (almost two years) with 32GB being possible but nothing as of yet
G_won said:
sadly we've been on the 16gb limit for microSDHC for more then a year (almost two years) with 32GB being possible but nothing as of yet
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I'm surprised no one has heard yet...
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-memory-products/sandisk-microsdhc
tekkitan said:
I'm surprised no one has heard yet...
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-memory-products/sandisk-microsdhc
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We all know a 32gb exists.
It's just not compatible with a Dream or Sapphire.
Here's something interesting:
http://www.physorg.com/news143893844.html
(Ignore the picture. )
r3s-rt said:
We all know a 32gb exists.
It's just not compatible with a Dream or Sapphire.
Here's something interesting:
http://www.physorg.com/news143893844.html
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Why wouldn't 32gb be compatible?
edit: also, the max possible for the MicroSDHC standard is 32gb. I think your link is bunk
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Why wouldn't 32gb be compatible?
edit: also, the max possible for the MicroSDHC standard is 32gb. I think your link is bunk
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http://www.google.com/search?client...&source=hp&q=microsd+128gb&btnG=Google+Search
You are VERY WRONG about "max possible standard." There is no "max possible" as technology such as this advances. 128gb today, 256 tomorrow.
Because they are not. I don't know WHY. Your service manual tells you that. However, you're more than welcome to go buy a 32gb and try.
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http://www.google.com/search?client...&source=hp&q=microsd+128gb&btnG=Google+Search
You are VERY WRONG about "max possible standard." There is no "max possible" as technology such as this advances. 128gb today, 256 tomorrow.
Because they are not. I don't know WHY. Your service manual tells you that. However, you're more than welcome to go buy a 32gb and try.
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Do you know how retarded that sounds?
The G1 supports the MicroSDHC standard. It is limited to whatever size the MicroSDHC standard supports.
Regardless what Google search you link, 32gb is the addressable limit of the SDHC standard.. when 64gb cards appear they will be SDXC, which means no current hardware supporting SDHC can use them.
If you'll look at your own links, they refer to the card as "128gb MicroSD". No mention of it being SDHC. An SDXC card will be an SD standard, but a device will need to support SDXC just like they support SDHC these days.
You can Google all you want, but all I see are a bunch of links from web sites that aren't official press releases from Sandisk themselves and all two years old.
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Do you know how retarded that sounds?
The G1 supports the MicroSDHC standard. It is limited to whatever size the MicroSDHC standard supports.
Regardless what Google search you link, 32gb is the addressable limit of the SDHC standard.. when 64gb cards appear they will be SDXC, which means no current hardware supporting SDHC can use them.
If you'll look at your own links, they refer to the card as "128gb MicroSD". No mention of it being SDHC. An SDXC card will be an SD standard, but a device will need to support SDXC just like they support SDHC these days.
You can Google all you want, but all I see are a bunch of links from web sites that aren't official press releases from Sandisk themselves and all two years old.
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Sorry, you must as misread what you quoted.
I said max POSSIBLE standard. A POSSIBLE in there means that it is possible to raise. Have you noticed class 10 isn't in there, but there ARE class 10 cards. I bet you links to Google and prove that.
Did you know there was actually a
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Sorry, you must as misread what you quoted.
I said max POSSIBLE standard. A POSSIBLE in there means that it is possible to raise. Have you noticed class 10 isn't in there, but there ARE class 10 cards. I bet you links to Google and prove that.
Did you know there was actually a
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You didn't finish your post lol
Apparently you have no idea what you are talking about. I didn't misread anything. MicroSD is a STANDARD. MicroSDHC is a STANDARD. When MicroSDXC comes out, it will be a STANDARD.
Do some research first before you start trying to act like you know what you are talking about. kthx
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You didn't finish your post lol
Apparently you have no idea what you are talking about. I didn't misread anything. MicroSD is a STANDARD. MicroSDHC is a STANDARD. When MicroSDXC comes out, it will be a STANDARD.
Do some research first before you start trying to act like you know what you are talking about. kthx
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Let me finish my post... [Edit, just noticed I did finish it, reworded it and forgot to erase old wording. ]
There are class 10 cards, but they are not officially accepted in the standard. BUT THEY EXIST! orly?!
You're going on about something we weren't even talking about. I assumed we were talking about the maximum limit of the sdhc standard. What did you take it as?
Let me rephrase my initial post, there's no maximum limit to the standard. Are you happy now?
Before trying to insult me, how about YOU try research before posting? In this case it would actually be READING before you post instead of seeing a word and thinking it's wrong.
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Let me finish my post... [Edit, just noticed I did finish it, reworded it and forgot to erase old wording. ]
There are class 10 cards, but they are not officially accepted in the standard. BUT THEY EXIST! orly?!
You're going on about something we weren't even talking about. I assumed we were talking about the maximum limit of the sdhc standard. What did you take it as?
Let me rephrase my initial post, there's no maximum limit to the standard. Are you happy now?
Before trying to insult me, how about YOU try research before posting? In this case it would actually be READING before you post instead of seeing a word and thinking it's wrong.
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Wow. Your ignorance knows no bounds. I'm not even going to bother replying to your nonsense.
ok so back on topic (months later)...
DO/WILL class 10 cards work in the G1/Dream? Anyone running one? I was considering getting a 16GB Class 10 off amazon. I originally planned on a class 6, then google lead me to info on a class 8, which amazon then showed me the 10... oh my!
malfuncion said:
ok so back on topic (months later)...
DO/WILL class 10 cards work in the G1/Dream? Anyone running one? I was considering getting a 16GB Class 10 off amazon. I originally planned on a class 6, then google lead me to info on a class 8, which amazon then showed me the 10... oh my!
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Although not under the same title, it should give some insight:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/4113-sd-card-speeds-and-swap/
Basically, the hardware in the Dream is only capable of read/write speeds around the class 6 area. Anything higher will get you a class 6 speed tops. Honestly, probably isn't worth the cash to get a class 8 or 10. Get one only if you're going to use the card in a camera, where you may need to dump RAW images on the fly. It's just not worth it otherwise.
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We all know a 32gb exists.
It's just not compatible with a Dream or Sapphire.
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32gb microsd works on my g1
XBrav said:
Although not under the same title, it should give some insight:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/4113-sd-card-speeds-and-swap/
Basically, the hardware in the Dream is only capable of read/write speeds around the class 6 area. Anything higher will get you a class 6 speed tops. Honestly, probably isn't worth the cash to get a class 8 or 10. Get one only if you're going to use the card in a camera, where you may need to dump RAW images on the fly. It's just not worth it otherwise.
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Thanks for the information, that's exactly what I was searching for!
Saved me from spending some extra unnecessary dollars.
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Do you know how retarded that sounds?
The G1 supports the MicroSDHC standard. It is limited to whatever size the MicroSDHC standard supports.
Regardless what Google search you link, 32gb is the addressable limit of the SDHC standard.. when 64gb cards appear they will be SDXC, which means no current hardware supporting SDHC can use them.
If you'll look at your own links, they refer to the card as "128gb MicroSD". No mention of it being SDHC. An SDXC card will be an SD standard, but a device will need to support SDXC just like they support SDHC these days.
You can Google all you want, but all I see are a bunch of links from web sites that aren't official press releases from Sandisk themselves and all two years old.
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Riiight.
Okay, so because you obviously don't know how storage works in regards to addressing, I'll explain it to you. At the time the Dream/G1 was originally released the 16GB MicroSD card was in the foreseeable future, but not a reality. 32GB wasn't in their crosshairs because it was beyond the 2 year limit. When phones are released, manufacturers usually only look to the average life of the phone for what it will support, which is about 2 years because that's how often the average person replaces their phone. Memory addressing is done via drivers, not hardware. For example: 32bit Computer Operating Systems support a maximum of 2.9GB of Random Access Memory, unless you add a PAE driver (Physical Address Extension) which allows the hardware to access addresses beyond their original limit by adding an additional level to the page table hierarchy which allows for 52-bit physical addressing on 32bit hardware. So, yes... an update -could- be written for the Dream/G1 to allow 32GB SDHC addressing, but don't expect it to come from HTC or Google. Their answer when 32GB cards become 'affordable' to the average consumer will be to buy a new phone, but if we look at the PC standards, it is very possible that a kernel module could be written to do something similar to PAE and allow 52bit SDHC addressing. With 32gb being the 32bit maximum, I'm sure 128GB+ could fall well within the 52bit area.
So, no. The Dream/G1 will not accept anything above 16GB without a kernel module, but with the custom kernels and instructions for compiling your own out there, someone will undoubtedly write a custom kernel for 32GB storage once it becomes practical to do so, or port the kernel from a newer device that supports it already.
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Thanks for the information, that's exactly what I was searching for!
Saved me from spending some extra unnecessary dollars.
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I don't know how the classes work entirely, my area is mostly in capacities and addressing, but unless it's a true hardware limitation, a kernel module could be written to allow Class 10 speeds, but honestly I'd get the class 10 myself because of writing from other devices -> SD. Like sideloading music to your card from your computer.
Taking delivery of my phone soon.
What's the latest on microSD cards?
Are 32GB worth it? Do they work?
Any particular minimum Class I should get, even if I have to get 16GB?
Thanks
M
Mus said:
Taking delivery of my phone soon.
What's the latest on microSD cards?
Are 32GB worth it? Do they work?
Any particular minimum Class I should get, even if I have to get 16GB?
Thanks
M
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am using class 6 works fine.
I use an 8Gb, class 4 without any issues. Resco is installed on the card.
Although if your going to flash a ROM from a micro SD card use one < 8Gb.
Thanks,
Al
From my experience, it's not the class or size that matters. It's the make. (Obviously a smaller card with a higher class will have faster r/w speeds, but that's not usually a noticeable issue.)
I never buy any SD cards now that are not SanDisk, and I can't remember the last time I had one that didn't work.
Some brands seem to get a lot of complaints.
The class wouldn't really matter if you're just using it to store data/apps.
I use a Nokia N900 and run Android off the SD card. A higher class gives a better speed when running an O/S off of one. But using one to store data/apps wouldn't give a noticable advantage of one class than another.
Obviously the size does matter but depends on what you'll use it for.
Plus for flashing use < 8Gb.
Thanks,
Al
PS. I agree with the brands. I don't buy cheap non-branded ones. Although I've never had an issue with any of the 'cheap' ones.
The size of the card depends on your needs. If you cram a lot of stuff in there or apps, then aim for 16gb or 32gb.
You can find 32gb on amazon from $70 up (sandisk, kingston, dane elec -- those are deem legit 32gb cards) and most of them should give real class 4 performance (even when they're listed as class 2 like sandisk).
For me I like San Disk,but I want to test Toshiba 16GB Class4.The seller told me that Toshiba quality is good also and I decided to buy it.
Never had any problem with file transfer and running android on SD card.
I've used it 4 months now.So far so good.
I use a kingston 8gb class 4.. Never had any issues with performance
Thanks for all the replies guys.
I'll probably run Android off the card initially with the standard WM 6.5 tweaked. Maybe put some SatNav on there too.
As for Apps depends what I come across. For WM I have an old large build of offline Wikipedia and some dictionaries etc.
Ta
I had my 8GB SanDisk in my G1 for 2 years, then my HD2 for about 8 months, then randomly one day it stopped working.
If I plugged it in, all of my content appeared on the phone such as pictures. Then after about 30 seconds it would freeze, and then the phone would say no SD card is inserted. I managed to copy all of my pictures across on the PC luckily before it froze.
Granted it was old - but they do fail after a while.
I've already ordered for a 32gb card make : strontium class 10. Read the reviews and it looked safe.
Wanted to know if any one is using a 32 gig sdhc? And if there are any non normal experiences with it...eg : like slow , time to open stuff which opened better on 8gig.
santoshrane said:
I've already ordered for a 32gb card make : strontium class 10. Read the reviews and it looked safe.
Wanted to know if any one is using a 32 gig sdhc? And if there are any non normal experiences with it...eg : like slow , time to open stuff which opened better on 8gig.
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I use Team 32GB Class 10 without problem
Using a 32GB class 4 - pretty sure it's Micron? Either way, media scanning on bootup takes a bit longer, but otherwise works just fine.
L4T
32gb microsSD cards are okay but in my experience not yet as reliable as smaller sizes, say 16gb. When they first became widely available early in 2011 they would fail without warning. Things have improved, but still, they can fail sooner than smaller capacity microSD cards. Stick with a known company brand like Transcend, Lexar, or Kingston.
Using PNY class 10 here, OK so far, but I've only had it a few days.
I've been using a 32g, class 4 SanDisk for about a week now. (Late bloomer to the View-LOVE IT!) I haven't had any problems, hopefully, that continues.
On another note, I've had a 32g card in my EVO phone for a while now and no problems. *crosses fingers*
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Hey i just got the card delivered. I was not sure reading strontium brand, but for the price i took the risk
I transferred data and i got 10.5mb/sec fluctuating between 9-10. so the card is definately class 10.
i tried my usual movies and opening heavy pdf's and it did well.
As far as it quiting on me is concerened the site has given me 5 year warranty... So i hope all goes well
I've been using a class 4 32gb card in mine since December, and I haven't had any problems whatsoever. It's worked well, and the speed of the card has been better than I expected.
Hi all,
I have the 10.1 2014 tab pro and I want to get a new SD card. I know from my brief reading through these forums that not all SD cards will work and I dont know enough to really understand what is what (like what does "SDHC Tf Class 10" mean?). If anyone knows what it is that I need to look for before buying one so that it will work fine with my tablet please post here.
ps I am using these primarily to store books and documents, not videos or games or anything that really takes a massive workload or speed requirement.
pps Im not sure if this matters, but I am running stock unrooted
TIA
Most any newly purchased MicroSD card should do. What did you read won't work? Below Class 10 cards might not work for some high speed functions (like video), but I believe all should work for casual use like you describe.
SDHC versus SDXC mainly refers to the capacity of the card, which you are probably going to be looking at separately (in GB) anyway, so it really doesn't matter. Basically, the original SD standard (also called SDSC) was limited to 2 (4?) GB. SDHC increased the capacity up to 32 GB, and anything higher than that is SDXC by definition. There are some other minor differences, but probably nothing you really need to worry much about.
Class (8, 10, etc.) refers to the read/write speed; but you may also see a UHS speed classification (U1, U3) also. Even though you are not talking about high speed demand tasks, I'd still tend toward Class 10 or U1 cards. Just in case you change your mind about what you want to save to the card; and many cards meet Class 10 or U1, anyway. For the few cards that you can find with lower speed class, you might save $10, so its probably not even worth it to consider lower speed class cards.
The following Wiki articles goes into a lot more detail about the specs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital
Out of all this, I'd be more worried about brand, or getting a counterfeit product. Some cheap or off-brand cards seem to fail more frequently than the big names. Folks all have their favorites, and may argue that you are just paying more for the brand. But I've bought several Sandisk cards, and never had any issues (and heard similar from other users on XDA).
I'd also stick to a reputable seller (Newegg, Amazon, etc.) as places like eBay are awash with counterfeit SD cards. Its so easy to relabel a card as a higher capacity (i. e. take a 32 GB card and label it as 128 GB, etc.) and even spoof the device to read it as the "fake" capacity, than charge much more $$$.
I am using one of these on my TabPRO:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-MicroSDHC-Memory-without-adapter/dp/B00AYC6V2U
Works fine on all my Android devices.
And to really leverage it outside of Google Apps and pre-installed items you need to root and enable write to the SD card, unfortunately. (Unless I'm missing something.)
Thanks, I really appreciate that info on what all those terms mean. However, right now I am using a 32gb Sandisk ultra, and my data keeps getting corrupted, apps cant find it, showing up empty on every file explorer I try.... Therefore I thought since Sandisk is legit (I bought it at costco so its real Sandisk) I figured there must be some issue with the type of card.
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Thanks, I really appreciate that info on what all those terms mean. However, right now I am using a 32gb Sandisk ultra, and my data keeps getting corrupted, apps cant find it, showing up empty on every file explorer I try.... Therefore I thought since Sandisk is legit (I bought it at costco so its real Sandisk) I figured there must be some issue with the type of card.
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I had similar issues with a genuine SanDisk card in my S3 (couldn't access it in recovery either), just showed a bunch random characters instead of file names etc), swapped it to a different brand (I got a genuine Sammy one because it was a bargain at the time) and that solved the problem....
Hey everybody ...
Quick question: which is better ... SanDisk Ultra 128GB or the Samsung 128GB EVO?
I've been deciding for days, but I still can't make up my mind.
I want something that lasts long and is fast.
Samsung is samsung, especially with the tablet ... and sandisk is also reputable but has that 10 year warranty.
Please help. Thanks!
dyiddo said:
Hey everybody ...
Quick question: which is better ... SanDisk Ultra 128GB or the Samsung 128GB EVO?
I've been deciding for days, but I still can't make up my mind.
I want something that lasts long and is fast.
Samsung is samsung, especially with the tablet ... and sandisk is also reputable but has that 10 year warranty.
Please help. Thanks!
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I would go with the Samsung since there have been reports lately of bad SanDisk cards. Realize though that one has sold millions more units than the other so the likelihood of failure is greater for SanDisk anyway.
If you want the fastest possible though you may want to step down to 64gb card and get one with the highest write rating like a SanDisk Extreme Pro.
The experiences vary. I've never had a single Sandisk card break, out of the 40ish Ive used since 2001.
I've had 4 Samsung cards (2x32 2x64) and they all broke in 4 months.
My 128GB Sandisk is still doing great.
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I would go with the Samsung since there have been reports lately of bad SanDisk cards. Realize though that one has sold millions more units than the other so the likelihood of failure is greater for SanDisk anyway.
If you want the fastest possible though you may want to step down to 64gb card and get one with the highest write rating like a SanDisk Extreme Pro.
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I think I really need the 128 gb size. I never read comics before, and the note pro got me into it ... so now I have like 15gb of comics. lol. Plus, then I'm gonna add vids and music. So it might be prudent for me to just fork out the money for a bigger card.
And the other thing ... I kinda wana go with samsung too but sandisk has a brilliant 10 yr warranty!. Samsung has like a 2 year. So that's confusing.
Everything I've seen says the tablet can only utilize 64gb cards or smaller...? Would love to buy a 128gb if that will work though, can anyone confirm?
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynotepro12.2/spec.html
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_pro_12_2_lte-5945.php
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Everything I've seen says the tablet can only utilize 64gb cards or smaller...? Would love to buy a 128gb if that will work though, can anyone confirm?
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynotepro12.2/spec.html
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_pro_12_2_lte-5945.php
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The card size listed in the specs is based upon what is, at that moment, available on the public market. At the time of the release of the NotePro, 64GB was the largest MicroSD size available. This does not in any way refer to an actual size limit of the cards, it's just that Samsung had no means to see if a 128GB card worked or no, as they didn't exist outside Sandisk's lab.
128GB works as normal, I've been using one for months. (Sandisk).
In fact, the 128GB works fine even on something as old as an S3.