You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the honor 5X performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the honor 5X keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.
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RAM management is not good, custom ROMS have a better management
Honor needs to improve great on RAM management. Except RAM, it satisfies us in all terms.
But seems that Honor 8 performs well. It might have improved now. Since we didn feel it in our Honor 5X, we are yet to know about it.
RAM management on EMUI 4.0 is not good, CM13 and other ROMS are much better, they need to optimize/fix the bad RAM management on EMUI for me to see it as bearable.
well ram on EMIUI is badly managed. No developer has managed to get any good working kernel for the STOCK ROMs. Unlike other phones we have blaze kernel for CM which is kinda good. But when it comes to EMIUI there is nothing for it. Also the huawei crap on official ROMs makes phone lag even in 2gb of ram
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well ram on EMIUI is badly managed. No developer has managed to get any good working kernel for the STOCK ROMs. Unlike other phones we have blaze kernel for CM which is kinda good. But when it comes to EMIUI there is nothing for it. Also the huawei crap on official ROMs makes phone lag even in 2gb of ram
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That's why they should minimize number of features and pre-installed apps.
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I hope EMUI 5 will have better management :fingers-crossed:
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well ram on EMIUI is badly managed. No developer has managed to get any good working kernel for the STOCK ROMs. Unlike other phones we have blaze kernel for CM which is kinda good. But when it comes to EMIUI there is nothing for it. Also the huawei crap on official ROMs makes phone lag even in 2gb of ram
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But its the feature that defines the mobiles now, So new features must be welcome. Still they could have done good with RAM management. Its the only area which gets constant negative reviews on it.
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You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the honor 5X performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the honor 5X keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.
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very poor ram management i only get mac 600 mb from 2gb..... honor should do something regard this.
pankaj786 said:
very poor ram management i only get mac 600 mb from 2gb..... honor should do something regard this.
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This issue kept me away from EMUI, I hope it gets fixed in version 5.
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But hey, it's good to have custom ROMs
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But its the feature that defines the mobiles now, So new features must be welcome. Still they could have done good with RAM management. Its the only area which gets constant negative reviews on it.
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pankaj786 said:
very poor ram management i only get mac 600 mb from 2gb..... honor should do something regard this.
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PalakMi said:
This issue kept me away from EMUI, I hope it gets fixed in version 5.
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But hey, it's good to have custom ROMs
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well linux does not work that way. Free RAM is wasted. Keeping any **** inside makes it ****. And huawei load tonnes of ucking crap things on their ROMs. They should be like motorola ROMs. Pure Caf with some added stuff. RAM is kinda automatically managed in linux. So no need to worry about RAM in linux based system.
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well linux does not work that way. Free RAM is wasted. Keeping any **** inside makes it ****. And huawei load tonnes of ucking crap things on their ROMs. They should be like motorola ROMs. Pure Caf with some added stuff. RAM is kinda automatically managed in linux. So no need to worry about RAM in linux based system.
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That's new to me (Linux RAM management).
methuselah said:
well linux does not work that way. Free RAM is wasted. Keeping any **** inside makes it ****. And huawei load tonnes of ucking crap things on their ROMs. They should be like motorola ROMs. Pure Caf with some added stuff. RAM is kinda automatically managed in linux. So no need to worry about RAM in linux based system.
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Oh.. Linux manages the RAM automatically..!!
Honor can't become Moto, Moto can't become honor.
Unlike Honor Moto provides only one software update.
moto is great when pushing new versions, but they are not good wgen it comes to patches
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moto is great when pushing new versions, but they are not good when it comes to patches
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Small correction. Moto was great. But not now in the hands of Lenovo.
Moto E2 which was advertised to get at least one Android version update didn't get any.
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Small correction. Moto was great. But not now in the hands of Lenovo.
Moto E2 which was advertised to get at least one Android version update didn't get any.
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You're correct
i could notice a slight gllitch while switching between apps, especially while using large apps and games
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Oh.. Linux manages the RAM automatically..!!
Honor can't become Moto, Moto can't become honor.
Unlike Honor Moto provides only one software update.
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lol...you doesn't understand what i meant there....did you ? stop crying about free RAM. Android manages ram more better than you can imagine. I bet sometime in past moto g with 1 gb or ram is more flawless frm honor 5x. And never again say about updates.. You can imagine how many updates moto g falcon has got... 4.2,4.3,4.4,5.0,5.1 lol..... That belong to google that time. Try to understand what technically i meant....
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lol...you doesn't understand what i meant there....did you ? stop crying about free RAM. Android manages ram more better than you can imagine. I bet sometime in past moto g with 1 gb or ram is more flawless frm honor 5x. And never again say about updates.. You can imagine how many updates moto g falcon has got... 4.2,4.3,4.4,5.0,5.1 lol..... That belong to google that time. Try to understand what technically i meant....
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you are right, i had previously using moto g and it was getting updates like hell mainly beacuse google was owning them at that time!!!!!
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And never again say about updates.. You can imagine how many updates moto g falcon has got... 4.2,4.3,4.4,5.0,5.1 lol..... That belong to google that time. Try to understand what technically i meant....
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Im not saying about the monthly security patches and all.. Just see the basic version. You got the update from 4 to 5 i.e KitKat to lollipop in 5 iterations. Honor also gives similar iterations. But it will be a long term one. Honor 4x started with KitKat and got EMUI 3, 3.1, 4 and now 4.1 soon.
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Im not saying about the monthly security patches and all.. Just see the basic version. You got the update from 4 to 5 i.e KitKat to lollipop in 5 iterations. Honor also gives similar iterations. But it will be a long term one. Honor 4x started with KitKat and got EMUI 3, 3.1, 4 and now 4.1 soon.
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its actually from jellybean to kitkat and then to lollipop,and it was provided fast(jut some weeks after nexus got their update)
not like a slow adoptation like honor 4x.
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Hi
My GFs been using her Z5C for over a year now, however the first phone she got had some mainboard malfunction causing it to randomly crash and reboot. The second Z5C has been working somewhat good, however it becomes very sluggish and unresponsive after some use. I know this device only has 2GB of ram and half of that is eaten away by the system. I'm just wondering if you to experience really poor performance from time to time? Jumping from Nova launcher to phone, sms app or play store can take like 5-10 seconds with a white screen while loading/RAM swapping is a pain. I already factory restored it a couple of times, and was running the Marshmallow .11 release until now, switched to CM13 which is performing just a bit better, but comparing to an old Galaxy S2 running CM13 it feels almost the same which is weird considering the S2 only has 768MB RAM.
Just interesting to hear your experiences, maybe this phone also has a faulty mainboard like the one before I was thinking. Also it gets really hot, like always, with Android system being the main hog on battery usage and this on Sonys firmware and factory restored.
I get that the small form factory comes at a price, but seriously? ?
Try this i know is for nexus 6p ive even using it on nougat stock also suggest you to use it on stock just backup ur original thermal.conf after this u will see the true potential of the z
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Try this i know is for nexus 6p ive even using it on nougat stock also suggest you to use it on stock just backup ur original thermal.conf after this u will see the true potential of the z
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Try what?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/cttmod-mm-t3386953
I would not mess with the thermal configuration without knowing what exactly am I doing.
You are suggesting using a configuration file from nexus to apply onto the z5c. Surely, this is not a great idea, even if it had some positive results... I'd rather see a therm.config file made specifically for the z5c.
Ooh well just trying to help out ive been using this mods from him since lg g3... As much as i know thermal.conf are universal cross SoC since n6p has same SoC as the z5 compact is been using it on my z5 compact since almost 7 month and i havent have any issues.. even now on nougat is even better i did couple benchmark and the differences are huge in quadrant benchmark register around 10000 wgit the moded file around 23000
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After you apply u will see why z5 compact still high priced u will unleash the dragon on it just remeber to back up the original file change the right permission and read the thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/cttmod-mm-t3386953
You could also try this one, made for z5 family. I am using v1.61 without an issue.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...-smartemperaturex-best-balanced-s810-t3438890
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Ooh well just trying to help out ive been using this mods from him since lg g3... As much as i know thermal.conf are universal cross SoC since n6p has same SoC as the z5 compact is been using it on my z5 compact since almost 7 month and i havent have any issues.. even now on nougat is even better i did couple benchmark and the differences are huge in quadrant benchmark register around 10000 wgit the moded file around 23000
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After you apply u will see why z5 compact still high priced u will unleash the dragon on it just remeber to back up the original file change the right permission and read the thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/cttmod-mm-t3386953
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I compared the thermal-engine.conf of the one from the Nexus series with our thermal-engine.conf and found out that they have very different hotplugging methods. There are also some thermal configs that are missing. If you check the one from the Nexus, you'll see that when it reaches a certain threshold, the phone will shut down. Similar to ours, but the Z5 plugs out cores faster than the Nexus one.
Anyways, I wouldn't try it. It might have no negative effect on your phone, but it's not really worth the risk. Though I have taken the time to ask various devs if this is possible. I'm curious as to whether it is indeed effective or not.
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You could also try this one, made for z5 family. I am using v1.61 without an issue.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...-smartemperaturex-best-balanced-s810-t3438890
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IMO, Nougat's stock thermal is actually better. I've read that Stock Nougat's thermal ignores the thermal-engine.conf to some extent. It seems that Sony has rewrote the thermal-engine.conf for android N.
Okey, so in other words it's pretty common that this phone feels sluggish not just on my GFs Z5C but also yours?
Then perhaps I should look for some other phone in same size group but with Qualcomm 600 series SoC instead and at least 3GB RAM which should give a better experience.
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Okey, so in other words it's pretty common that this phone feels sluggish not just on my GFs Z5C but also yours?
Then perhaps I should look for some other phone in same size group but with Qualcomm 600 series SoC instead and at least 3GB RAM which should give a better experience.
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For me it's damn quick and much faster than my s4mini with 1,5 gb ram andCm13 before. However i'm using the mod i posted since short after buying because it got too hot sometimes.
In your case i would try the nougat firmware, from what i read it's faster than MM with better Battery Life and like iArvee mentioned less heat.
If you look for another phone, X compact would be the stats you mentioned. However some say Z5C is still better. I cannot compare, but there is an own Thread in the general section. Phones in this size group with good specs are pretty rare lately.
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Okey, so in other words it's pretty common that this phone feels sluggish not just on my GFs Z5C but also yours?
Then perhaps I should look for some other phone in same size group but with Qualcomm 600 series SoC instead and at least 3GB RAM which should give a better experience.
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Honestly, no. The phone is not sluggish at all whatsoever. Though if you do wish to go for a new phone, then as @Gewiz mentioned, the X Compact is your best bet. That is, if you wish to stick with Sony. On paper, the Z5C is faster than the X Compact, but the 600 series does not heat up as fast as the 810. Keep in mind though, the X Compact is not Water resistant. I was going for the X Compact, but went for the Z5C instead because of the IP68.
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Okey, so in other words it's pretty common that this phone feels sluggish not just on my GFs Z5C but also yours?
Then perhaps I should look for some other phone in same size group but with Qualcomm 600 series SoC instead and at least 3GB RAM which should give a better experience.
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I suspect it's due to the limited 2GB RAM, it's not enough for what your girlfriend is using her phone for.
Similar situation with my wife, we both have a Z5C bought around the same time, mine's very fast and responsive, yet my wife's takes forever to do anything. There's a big difference in how we use our phones, mine's relatively clean, stock, rooted and I use Greenify to help.
Her phone on the other hand has all these custom girly themes, Facebook app (notorious memory hog, I don't use it), a dozen or so photo editing apps that just refuse to hibernate (according to Greenify I later installed on her non-rooted phone in an effort to help improve things) and also eats up memory like there's no tomorrow... it's like a jungle of apps and stuff all over the place. She has horrific battery life as well.
I actually offered to switch phones with her a few weeks ago, since I feel like my phone was optimized and in great condition. However, once all of her apps and customization went into effect, it instantly became noticeably slower. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
At least she now has Greenify to auto hibernate those pesky apps that she absolutely refuses to delete.
Meanwhile, her original phone that I'm now using got a make over with my clean, lean and mean treatment and is running like a champ.
I'm still running Xpower 5. I tried moonwalkers rom and it seemed faster but it would also cause a boot loop after a few days. I find the phone CAN be very sluggish as well. I think it has to do with the memory as well. Sometimes I start an app (ie. Google voice or ES file manager) and it pops up instantly. Sometimes it pops up but the screen is blank and it literally sits for maybe 5 seconds before anything happens. The camera can be worse. Sometimes even opening the app drawer gives a lag. Android Auto is just always slow. I've found that if I use an app killer and clear out some memory the phone becomes more responsive. Yes, the OS should automatically do this, but it doesnt seem to do a very good job. If I'm starting an app thats not in memory, it should make no difference whether the memory is empty or the OS needs to kill something to make room. Maybe the process of clearing out space in memory has some lag.
I would switch phones in a heartbeat but I like the smaller form factor and nearly all other phones in the world are bigger.
Regarding facebook, I did this with my older phone because of how bad FB is, there is a "facebook lite" app you can get which is designed for lesser phones. It runs much better but it is more limited.
I'm waiting for a usable nougat rom to try. hopefully that will help
Hello, I flashed LineageOS to my Honor 5X, but my RAM is bad.... Phone is really lagging beacause of that. In settings it says average using RAM is 96%... On my old phone with 2GB RAM too, it was about 70 - 80%. Android takes about 40 - 55% of ram as it says in my settings, is that not too much? And sometimes apps like Messenger, Chrome etc. are closing by themself. I dont use smart cleaner or something like that. Do you know the solution? How do I free my RAM? If LineageOS is that bad optimized, what best optimized ROM do you recommend me? I dont need Nougat, it can be MM too. Is CM 13 or RR or Cosmic OS good?
You have a wild runner there, check RAM usage by apps. If you're using one of those big GAPPS packages, reflash and use small GAPPS package and install other google apps as user apps.
My device is on Lineage + nano GAPPS, doesn't move above 1.2-1.4GB RAM no matter what.
Do you have the latest version of Lineage? What score in AnTuTu did you have?
Yes, latest one from a week ago, and no I haven't tested anything in antutu, benchmark numbers really mean nothing within this device class.
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Do you have the latest version of Lineage? What score in AnTuTu did you have?
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well those scores are nothing more than dancing. I hope you already heard of Chainfire here. He himself said, its amusing to sit back and see numbers on the screen doing nothing. Real world conditions are different than those numbers.
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well those scores are nothing more than dancing. I hope you already heard of Chainfire here. He himself said, its amusing to sit back and see numbers on the screen doing nothing. Real world conditions are different than those numbers.
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He couldn't be more right. My previous device could pull up to 35k on Antutu, but compared to 5x, even on EMUI, was sluggish. I don't know how much this one can pull, and I don't care, as long as it works well with Lineage I'm happy.
So much the phone pullout on nougat ?
Hey all!
I'm very curious. My Honor 5X is unbelievably slow (read: laggy) despite having 2 gigs of RAM and the Snapdragon 616 - which is an octacore chip for God's sake.
I can't even explain how terrible the experience is. Sometimes I can't even pick up calls. Opening system apps like Dialer, contacts etc takes 6-8 seconds - YES, SECONDS - on average. This has been since Day 1.
I attributed the lag to buggy software (Huawei's official ROM) and switched to Lineage OS 14.1 but damn there has been absolutely no improvement.
Many people suggested clearing the cache, removing unused apps (the age old advice for android users) when the phone gets slow but I don't have more than 25 apps (which is restraint on my part), I make sure there's no clutter, wipe the caches regularly but still nothing.
I started blaming the Snapdragon 616 for this when switching to LineageOS didn't work. Didn't let anyone I know buy a phone with Snapdragon's 600 line of SoCs but it just doesn't make sense. My friend's Moto G4 has the Snapdragon 617 and it works fine. Even the Moto Z Play has the Snapdragon 625 and its one of good mid rangers on the market!
Need your opinions on what the problem could be.
Also if anyone here has the Huawei Honor 5X, how has your experience been with this absolute **** excuse for a phone?
I'm on LineageOS 14.1 latest nightly and opening the dialer takes probably 1 or 2 seconds max.
It really feels like your phone has a hardware problem if wiping everything doesn't make it better.
The phone is pretty snappy in day to day use for me, not fast like a Pixel or a OP5 but still pretty damn fast.
I don't have much apps in the background either.
Consider using your warranty to see if the phone is not defective.
I have it and often switch roms. I experience lags but not as severe as yours.
EMUI is laggy, but custom roms works good with this device. Fluid enough as a daily driver. May be your hardware is getting somewhat inefficient. 5x is my first and last buy from huwaei.
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Hey all!
I'm very curious. My Honor 5X is unbelievably slow (read: laggy) despite having 2 gigs of RAM and the Snapdragon 616 - which is an octacore chip for God's sake.
I can't even explain how terrible the experience is. Sometimes I can't even pick up calls. Opening system apps like Dialer, contacts etc takes 6-8 seconds - YES, SECONDS - on average. This has been since Day 1.
I attributed the lag to buggy software (Huawei's official ROM) and switched to Lineage OS 14.1 but damn there has been absolutely no improvement.
Many people suggested clearing the cache, removing unused apps (the age old advice for android users) when the phone gets slow but I don't have more than 25 apps (which is restraint on my part), I make sure there's no clutter, wipe the caches regularly but still nothing.
I started blaming the Snapdragon 616 for this when switching to LineageOS didn't work. Didn't let anyone I know buy a phone with Snapdragon's 600 line of SoCs but it just doesn't make sense. My friend's Moto G4 has the Snapdragon 617 and it works fine. Even the Moto Z Play has the Snapdragon 625 and its one of good mid rangers on the market!
Need your opinions on what the problem could be.
Also if anyone here has the Huawei Honor 5X, how has your experience been with this absolute **** excuse for a phone?
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try checking developer options and check animation speed and transition speed..see if that is the problem
Abhaypraseeth said:
try checking developer options and check animation speed and transition speed..see if that is the problem
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Default setting of that is 1x. There should be no problems with that.
The 617 and 625 are more superior to 616. However, try to factory reset, if it's still the same, ask for a replacement immediately if you have warranty.
try to flash the stock rom again clearing all data and everything.. then flash a custom rom..
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try to flash the stock rom again clearing all data and everything.. then flash a custom rom..
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I believe clearing data is enough. No need to flash stock again.
Have you tried slim rom, aokp or other. Can give a try
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Hey all!
I'm very curious. My Honor 5X is unbelievably slow (read: laggy) despite having 2 gigs of RAM and the Snapdragon 616 - which is an octacore chip for God's sake.
I can't even explain how terrible the experience is. Sometimes I can't even pick up calls. Opening system apps like Dialer, contacts etc takes 6-8 seconds - YES, SECONDS - on average. This has been since Day 1.
I attributed the lag to buggy software (Huawei's official ROM) and switched to Lineage OS 14.1 but damn there has been absolutely no improvement.
Many people suggested clearing the cache, removing unused apps (the age old advice for android users) when the phone gets slow but I don't have more than 25 apps (which is restraint on my part), I make sure there's no clutter, wipe the caches regularly but still nothing.
I started blaming the Snapdragon 616 for this when switching to LineageOS didn't work. Didn't let anyone I know buy a phone with Snapdragon's 600 line of SoCs but it just doesn't make sense. My friend's Moto G4 has the Snapdragon 617 and it works fine. Even the Moto Z Play has the Snapdragon 625 and its one of good mid rangers on the market!
Need your opinions on what the problem could be.
Also if anyone here has the Huawei Honor 5X, how has your experience been with this absolute **** excuse for a phone?
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Can please try RR rom
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Have you tried slim rom, aokp or other. Can give a try
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Or maybe AOSiP. Using it now.
Go with Crdroid..you wont regret
Hello, Can sd card slow the honor 5x?
issamel said:
Hello, Can sd card slow the honor 5x?
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Probably, if it has a slow read/write speed and it's full. It won't slow it that much where it's noticable
issamel said:
Hello, Can sd card slow the honor 5x?
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Yes only if you are accessing files that are stored on SD card.
A lower class SD card will generally have slow write/read speeds.
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Talking about lag, why would you even be on stock EMUI ROM on honor 5x? EMUI is a heavy skin for a low end SD 616 CPU.
The only way to get rid of those lags is to install a custom ROM. Period.
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Hello, Can sd card slow the honor 5x?
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How about removing the sd card and test for sometimes. If it makes any difference then you got the root cause. If it doesn't then something on your firmware causing which you can test further with installing custom rom, crdroid, aosp based, slim rom, aokp etc
I am having lag in snapdragon 617!
My phone is j5 prime 32gb. It just lags whenever it gets hot, even google maps lag. After gaming for a few minutes, there would always be big framerate drop. I know that this is a throttling issue, can anyone pls help to prevent the cpu from throttling?
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My phone is j5 prime 32gb. It just lags whenever it gets hot, even google maps lag. After gaming for a few minutes, there would always be big framerate drop. I know that this is a throttling issue, can anyone pls help to prevent the cpu from throttling?
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May be use of.kernel audiotor can help here and you can limit it
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May be use of.kernel audiotor can help here and you can limit it
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Is there any ways to solve it without root?
There's this 2 versions of Redmi 5 Plus ...
The 4gb version worths the invested money?
My doubts are:
- The 3gb ram can handle reopening browser (mainly Opera to me but could be Chrome aswell just for the sake of testing) without reloading the webpages each time??? If so please tell me..
- Should I choose the 4gb ? It has some other major improvements over the 3gb ram ?
I just don't want to waste money for no significant improvements. Thanks! :fingers-crossed:
I think it's more important 64gb storage than 4gb of ram
For me 32gb it's not enough.
There are many videos showing the miui memory management problems on YouTube. (look at the comparative VS videos).
3gb is fine with stock Android. But miui has very bad ram management. It closes background apps much faster than stock Android. So, if you need multi-tasking it's advised to go with the 4gb version.
(4gb on miui seems worse than 3gb on stock.)
I'm on 4gb and happy with it so far.
Edit: That being said, if you come back to your browser after open perhaps 4 or 5 apps you should be fine with 3gb. But get the 4gb to be on the safe side. The price difference is only 20 bucks anyway, so definitely worth it).
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There are many videos showing the miui memory management problems on YouTube. (look at the comparative VS videos).
3gb is fine with stock Android. But miui has very bad ram management. It closes background apps much faster than stock Android. So, if you need multi-tasking it's advised to go with the 4gb version.
(4gb on miui seems worse than 3gb on stock.)
I'm on 4gb and happy with it so far.
Edit: That being said, if you come back to your browser after open perhaps 4 or 5 apps you should be fine with 3gb. But get the 4gb to be on the safe side. The price difference is only 20 bucks anyway, so definitely worth it).
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It would be nice if I get paid in dollars, lol.. 20$ turn into 100 R$ (my local currency) .. comparable to 100 dollars to someone who lives abroad. It worths the investment anyway..
I have a Xiaomi Mi Note 2 (but it fell off to the ground yesterday and stopped working :crying .. Before I had a Lenovo Zuk Z2.. both with 4gb ram... I ditched MIUI in favor of Resurrection Remix .. What I can remember is that disabling MIUI Ram Management in settings it can hold a lot of apps in memory.. but as I said, my experience was not with 3gb ram..
Those comparison videos are not clear if they disabled the MIUI Ram Management.. so it would probably hold the apps opened in background (even with 3gb ram)... With 4gb it's garanteed to do the job..
If anyone here with 3gb ram can tell us your experiences regarding ram management and disabling that option, I would appreciate..
For those who are in doubt over prioritizing memory VS storage.. I would go for memory.. as the storage is upgradeable (with sd card).. memory is not.. and it gives you more time range to spend with the chosen device :good:
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It would be nice if I get paid in dollars, lol.. 20$ turn into 100 R$ (my local currency) .. comparable to 100 dollars to someone who lives abroad. It worths the investment anyway..
I have a Xiaomi Mi Note 2 (but it fell off to the ground yesterday and stopped working :crying .. Before I had a Lenovo Zuk Z2.. both with 4gb ram... I ditched MIUI in favor of Resurrection Remix .. What I can remember is that disabling MIUI Ram Management in settings it can hold a lot of apps in memory.. but as I said, my experience was not with 3gb ram..
Those comparison videos are not clear if they disabled the MIUI Ram Management.. so it would probably hold the apps opened in background (even with 3gb ram)... With 4gb it's garanteed to do the job..
If anyone here with 3gb ram can tell us your experiences regarding ram management and disabling that option, I would appreciate..
For those who are in doubt over prioritizing memory VS storage.. I would go for memory.. as the storage is upgradeable (with sd card).. memory is not.. and it gives you more time range to spend with the chosen device :good:
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3gb version using since few months and it's quite good, miui memory optimization disabled by default in newer version.
Also I am using moded miui rom which is super fast as compare to stock miui.
As far as I know browser sometimes reload but it's speed is quit fast so I didn't noticed any difference till yet.
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irfan.shikarpuri said:
3gb version using since few months and it's quite good, miui memory optimization disabled by default in newer version.
Also I am using moded miui rom which is super fast as compare to stock miui.
As far as I know browser sometimes reload but it's speed is quit fast so I didn't noticed any difference till yet.
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Thanks for replying!
I just opted for the 4GB Ram..
Are you using what modded MIUI?? Xiaomi.eu custom rom ??
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/8-3-15.43621/
Are you using the "xiaomi.eu_multi_HM5Plus_V9.5.5.0.NEGCNFA_v9-7.1.zip" version?? :laugh:
Luckzzz said:
Thanks for replying!
I just opted for the 4GB Ram..
Are you using which modded MIUI?? Xiaomi.eu custom rom ??
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/8-3-15.43621/
Are you using the "xiaomi.eu_multi_HM5Plus_V9.5.5.0.NEGCNFA_v9-7.1.zip" version?? :laugh:
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yes but not direct
First I installed wash n dish by Jerome-X than updated came and I update to xiaomi eu 9.5.5.0
About a week ago and still using the same rom. Actually Jerome-X rom has super speed and fluidity which I never used on any rom till yet that's why I am still using the updated version from xiaome.eu
irfan.shikarpuri said:
yes but not direct
First I installed wash n dish by Jerome-X than updated came and I update to xiaomi eu 9.5.5.0
About a week ago and still using the same rom. Actually Jerome-X rom has super speed and fluidity which I never used on any rom till yet that's why I am still using the updated version from xiaome.eu
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I got a little bit confused..
Jerome-X rom is not the same as Xiaomi.eu rom, right?
Which one is faster/smooth ?? They both have the same amount of stuff/customizations?
Luckzzz said:
I got a little bit confused..
Jerome-X rom is not the same as Xiaomi.eu rom, right?
Which one is faster/smooth ?? They both have the same amount of stuff/customizations?
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Actually wash n dish by Jerome-X based on xiaomi eu with super speed and fluidity May be he used performance kernel, as far as I understand. The rom is super cool and very nice for daily drive I am using since 10 to 12 days and didn't find any bug or issue so for
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Actually wash n dish by Jerome-X based on xiaomi eu with super speed and fluidity May be he used performance kernel, as far as I understand. The rom is super cool and very nice for daily drive I am using since 10 to 12 days and didn't find any bug or issue so for
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Sounds like an amazing rom to try, ¿do you have any link to get it?, can't find anywhere to dowload it, just a blocked tread here.
villafanart said:
Sounds like an amazing rom to try, ¿do you have any link to get it?, can't find anywhere to dowload it, just a blocked tread here.
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Dear seems rom post has been deleted don't know the reason but the rom was super awsom May be some one have its link today I accidentally deleted the rom other wise will upload on some sharing site.
been using the 3gb for some time now... it good for multitasking. 4gb is an overkill. you should go with the 4gb variant mostly because its 64gb memory, I don't think you'll notice a performance difference in because of the increased ram, tho it's always nice to have more ram; you never know when you might actually need it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Dear seems rom post has been deleted don't know the reason but the rom was super awsom May be some one have its link today I accidentally deleted the rom other wise will upload on some sharing site.
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Thread was closed because the Rom contained a pirated warez app.
Lazy Rich said:
Thread was closed because the Rom contained a pirated warez app.
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Which one? Can you elaborate
I don't know, never used the rom. I've just read that some xda crew member closed the thread because of warez.
so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
Heyyo, yeah depending on your build of EUI ROM? It'll suck. Anything prior to 19s is definitely garbage. X821 19s was pretty good and same with x829 20s or x820 30s (albeit with ads). The best way to experience EUI ROM is CrisBalGreece modified versions.
Otherwise? I highly recommend custom ROMs. We have a lot of great Android 9 ROMs and Android 10 is pretty decent albeit with more bugs.
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so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
popoyaya said:
Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
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what rom variant do you recommend? also are android 10 version stable enough or should i flash older android 9?
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so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
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The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
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The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
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so today i have instaled the first time a custom ROM,after struggling with twrp for 2hours . i have instaled AospExtended ROM V6.0 [X2] (adroid PIE) . it move more smoothly for sure,but not sure it moves this way beucase it's just a fresh rom..will way some weeks to see if it keeps up.
and about instaling a custom kerne . isn't that coming instaled with the ROM?
I have my device for nearly two years, and I am using eui 6.0.30s CBG cleaned edition since last year... I never face any kind of lag or bug except the lag caused by power save mod, which automatically enables itself when the battery goes down under %5. I think full wipe+reinstall firmware would be a great solution for you.
Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
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Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
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dude.. people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling. .. I never had to do that on SD800/801 phones lol...
since you are very determined that its not a bad phone , I'm taking out my Le Max 2 a second time .... hehe... I occasionally play Mobile Legends.. any other tips you can give?
Nexus 5 was SD800 and was known for overheating issues
https://www.technobezz.com/fix-overheating-problem-nexus-5/
Like I said, the main thing would be to switch to a custom ROM that has Android Pie and is decently updated. Most of those pie custom ROMs will have pretty decent thermals while still delivering decent performance.