Just trying to figure out what is the proper path with this spiteful phone - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

So my girlfriend's EVO 4G LTE is a bit of.. well, I'm gonna say bastard. I'm not new when it comes to rooting devices but I've never had to deal with one that fought me so much.
I've been through this adventure many times with it, and it gets more complicated each time. Here is what's happened with it so far.
It was stock, and it was terrible. It lagged so much, despite factory resets, that apps like google maps were completely unusable. It got no battery life AT ALL, and was generally freeze-happy and miserable.
So then I s-off'd it and after learning all its quirks, installed recovery and CM 11.2 (I think? It's been a year)
This worked great! For.. a few days. The phone worked, we went on vacation to a roaming area where Sprint had no coverage. We come back, and only the data works, texts and calls do not, and the phone acts like it's not activated. Yay. All attempts to get it activated are met with failure, much to the confusion of the poor sprint person on the line. The phone just will not take, at all. (damn lack of real sim cards..) We tried recovering back to a backup from twrp of the stock firmware but that won't work either? It wouldn't register with sprint even on the backed up version of stock sense. The phone seemed dead at this point. Bricked radio?
So we give up. We bring it to the sprint store, and they do some magic to it, and its back to stock, slow and terrible, but functional. We don't touch it until about three weeks ago.
But, my girlfriend is tired, again, of the terribleness, and asks me to try again. Okay, sure.
I install TWRP again, so far so good. The phone is still S-OFF from last time, which is nice. I go to install CM11.2 from the files used from last time (the MD5 does check out correct) But, the phone complains about not having a new enough bootloader. ???? (So I assume sprint downgraded the bootloader in the process of fixing it. somehow)
I forget the exact numbers, but we can't install CM11.2, only 10. or 10.whatever. the newest 10. Okay, fine. I gather a new set of cyanogen files, gapps, whatever, and flash all of that, so far so good.
This time it works, and stays working! Yay! So I thought.
As it turns out, its on a very old version of android (so old that it goes into a special usb file host mode when usb is plugged in) and more importantly, the camera is TERRIBLE. I've read that the evo 4g lte uses a special ImageSense chip to boost camera performance, and that cyanogen 10 does not support it. I can tell, because the camera is absolutely terrible. The battery life also is terrible, presumably because it lacks optimizations. It had way better battery life on CM11.2 when it worked. Other then that, its working just fine, but the camera is just unacceptable.
So, I want to know what to do from here. I see a few paths.
plan A:
update HBOOT to a newer version to allow the install of CM11.2
(how do I do that? I heard you have to use an RUU, but which RUU? I read that there is some touchscreen driver that is an issue depending on what version you run)
(Once I install the ruu is it business as usual, install twrp and then flash cyanogen like normal? Will it do the crazy not activation thing again? was that a fluke??)
plan B:
update HBOOT, but to a much newer one that allows the install of CM12 or whatever the newer ones are. Presumably updating past the touch screen driver issue and not allowing us to go back to an old version.
(once again, what do I need to do that? Is this advisable? I quite prefer the idea of running a newer version. So if this is the better idea, I will do it.)
I thank you greatly for your help. I'm not used to it being this complicated. I've read a lot of things about this phone and it seems very conflicting at times. I just want to get straightened out.

yeah, it's probably running like crap because the firmware is so out of date.
use this RUU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2653730
then re-flash twrp and another ROM if you want (i've been running cm12.1 for MONTHS) but she might be able to survive just like that. only fear would be staying vulnerable to security threats, but you've been living in that house this whole time anyway.
for a good while i was running this stock 4.3 with root and some xposed modules installed to get the cm functionality that i missed. but seriously, run the RUU, let it activate, then go under settings and update profile and PRL, fire up maps/navigation with GPS on so that it gets a good lock and its cache populated, then you should be good from there.

Thank you!
Can I use the same utility that I used to flash twrp (that one-click thing that seems to support a half million phones) or do I need something special? This sounds very easy to do. Almost too easy, given that the story of this phone's life is that the easiest thing I've ever done to it was take it completely apart to replace its battery.

never used the one-click stuff. flashing recovery via fastboot is simple enough.
get the adb tools, here's some easy instructions for that http://lifehacker.com/the-easiest-way-to-install-androids-adb-and-fastboot-to-1586992378
get the latest twrp from here https://dl.twrp.me/jewel/
then follow these directions to flash twrp https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_jewel#Installing_a_custom_recovery_using_fastboot
if not installing cm or any other rooted rom (you want to root stock) get supersu from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 and use the twrp installable zip

If you've gone through the trouble to S-Off, then fastboot flash the latest TWRP (3.0.2.0, I believe), which supports the new partition layout (extra 4gig of internal SD space).
From there, flash the official 651.4 developers version, go through the device setup which updates your PRL, then shut it down and reboot to TWRP and flash the latest CM12.1 and a proper gapps package (I use "stock", which is a bit much for some, but I like having everything available to me).
The one thing I do that most don't is to disable zRam and enable swap with my own script I wrote specifically for the external SD I formatted as vFat/ext4/swap.
After doing all this, I do not have the issues you seem to have, and the PRL seems to stay from the last install of stock Sense 5. Even with all the apps I have installed, it's still fairly snappy. Facebook/Messenger, and other memory hogging apps run smooth with no discernable lag, unless there's network issues.
YMMV, but look into using an app like "Ampre" to measure battery life and gauge if the battery is going bad or not.
Outside of that, there's not much left to do with these older devices that hasn't been done already.

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[Q] Problem with verizon pushing updates

Well here is the issue, I bought the HTC Thunderbolt awhile ago. I then rooted my phone but left the original ROM on it since the custom roms were not stable. I noticed verizon was pushing me some update and I just ignored them. I woke up today to see my phone rebooted with the screen on an exsclamation point. And then my Thunderbolt keeps rebooting itself now. I tried going into ROM Manager to download a Custom ROM but the phone just reboots before I can do it. I just installed Liquid Gingersense v1.6 rom with the MR2 OTA Radio which said it installed just fine after installing the Liquid Gingersense rom. I went through setting up the google account fine and after it booted to the main screen now my phone boots all over again, get stuck at htc screen for a bit then loads the phone fine then boots again. I am really not sure what the heck is going on. I am new to the MR2 OTA Radio since I cam from the Droid 1. So I hope it was not the install order I did it. I Have turned off the phone booted it with still same rebooting over and over issue. If anyone has idea's please let me know. Much appreciated. Thanks
I'm in the same boat. I have wiped the SD card and done a factory reset on the phone. It is no longer rooted, as I can't install and run apps requiring root permission. The update fails every time it tries to install, I also get the exclamation point android screen when the update tries to install. I'll take the update, I don't care. I just want a reliable phone again.
I'm seeing this issue come up a lot. Some of you folks seem pretty upset by it, and reasonably so. Search through the threads and you'll find you solution.
For those who are STILL running that antique and wildly obsolete ROM that the jcase rooting process leaves you with, I'd like to set a few facts before you. First of all, that ROM wasn't provided as a long-term daily driver. It's OLD and it's not very efficient with the battery. Second, simply because it's stock doesn't mean it's inherently stable. It's probably less stable than the custom ROMs out there. Third, the only ROMs really struggling with stability were the 2.01 RUU gingerbread builds. That build is obsolete, but not nearly as obsolete as the ROM that the rooting process leaves you with. The stability issues with the second OTA had nothing to do with the ROM, but rather, the radio that came with the RUU. In short, it's foolhardy to believe that custom ROMs are somehow inherently dangerous or unstable.
I'd like to suggest to whoever might be running the rooted ancient ROM the rooting process leaves you with to abandon it at your earliest convenience. Flash an MR2 radio, and if you like stock, use the stock rooted debloated ROM based on the 1.70 RUU. If you decide not to do this, and your phone auto-accepts the update, you'll probably lose everything on the phone trying to get it working again. Save yourself that hassle. Flashing ROMs isn't hard and people do it everyday.

Flashed new ROM (VILLUMINATI), now stuck in forceclose loop I cannot escape

Hey guys; I've been using dastin1015's ROMs for almost a year now on my Sprint Evo 3D. I definitely don't know everything (probably not even close) about using custom ROMs, but I'm not a complete noob.
That said, I screwed up. I successfully replaced my 4ext touch recovery with TWRP as dastin1015 says must be done for this ROM. I then wiped everything except my SD card and 'System' and flashed the latest ROM located here (Villuminati 12/08/13), and the "full complete" GApps package located here (4.4).
I rebooted the phone, and admired the new CM splash screen. Once the ROM loaded, I immediately got a couple of stock (system) apps (com.android.phone and ThemeManager along with some others) forceclosing repeatedly, preventing the phone from fully booting and making it very difficult for me to reboot the phone into recovery-- the messages popped up over and over again on top of the menu for reboot. I eventually did manage to get back into TWRP though.
At that point, I wiped *everything* except my SD card, and flashed the ROM and GApps again. Now I'm having the same problem, but with even more system apps force-closing, and I cannot reboot the phone or do anything else with it via the phone itself.
What do I do now? Can I fix this with ADB?
I read that using this 4.4.1 GApps might solve or prevent this problem, but it's iffy. In any case, unless someone has a better solution, that's the next thing I wanna try after managing to reboot into recovery. Do any of you think that will work?
Thank you.
Yes that one worked for me and I used 4ext with no problems
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Glad to hear it dschlemmer.
The proper answer to the first part of my question (can I fix this in adb) is "of course, you idiot, just connect the phone to your pc and type "adb reboot recovery" and then wipe and re-install your old ROM or something."
However, I can't get the PC to recognize the phone, despite it having the proper drivers and having recognized it before. I think it's stuck at a phase in its boot-up that comes before the usb debugging is activated. My PC recognizes something is plugged in, based on the ding noise it makes (it's a Win 7 Pro x64 machine, and I think most of us are familiar with that ding noise), but the normal behavior of searching for and finding the drivers and then telling me the device is ready to use never occurs. Neither is there that "safely remove hardware" button in the taskbar.
So, of course, if the computer itself doesn't recognize it, adb can't either (confirmed by typing "adb devices" and it showing nothing). Is there anything I can do, or have I actually managed to completely (irreparably) brick my phone?
EDIT: The usb port is functioning, at least, as is whatever part of the circuitry or firmware controls the LED while plugged in and/or charging, because that works just like it should. It's just that I can't do anything but repeatedly cycle through the same "Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped", "Unfortunately, Themes provider has stopped", and a couple other messages that get covered up by those two, including one I briefly saw that mentioned "Settings". Haven't been able to see any of the others for long enough to identify any part of them.
EDIT2: I forgot about using the bootloader. Completely forgot. Stupid. Successfully in recovery, about to flash the same ROM with the new GApps. If it gets screwy again, I'll just remove the battery, replace it, and get into the bootloader to get into recovery.
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Yes that one worked for me and I used 4ext with no problems
Sent from my Evo 3D CDMA using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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From that version of GApps, what all did you download and use, exactly? I grabbed Standard and almost everything that didn't come included with it and flashed it all with the same ROM and the phone went into a bootloop that consisted of repeatedly verifiying apps (67 of them), throwing an error message similar to the ones I was getting before, then rebooting to do it all again.
I got a new Galaxy S4 ($50 at Best Buy with a 2-year contract renewal, woot-- Sprint wanted to charge me $200 for the same thing through them directly), so this isn't a pressing issue anymore, but I'd like to give the Evo 3D to my sister-in-law for Christmas. I ended up putting some AOKP Jelly Bean ROM on it (the zip was labeled Unofficial AOKP JB 3.5, I believe) I had sitting in the roms folder on my sd card with its own kernel next to it, and the phone appears to be functioning fine, but I'd like to a) figure out wtf the problem was/is with this ROM or GApps or whatever (something I did wrong probably) because dastin's stuff has always worked great for me before, and b) see Kit Kat in action on the phone. Either that or put it back to stock, which was, what, ICS? Did Sprint Evo's ever get an official upgrade to Jelly Bean?
In any case, and in lieu of posting in the relevant thread in the development forum since I don't have enough posts yet, here's the information about the phone at the time of this weirdness:
S-OFF
Hboot 1.40
Radio 1.09.00.0706
TWRP v2.6.3.0 recovery
NineInchNails' kernel posted in dastin1015's CM10.1-based ROM thread (Wild for the Night)
The ROM on the phone before the attempt to upgrade was dastin's latest Hood Pope version (Oct. 21st, 2013), which had been running just fine up until...
.... about 2 weeks ago, I uninstalled this Call Recorder app because I was running out of internal storage (~40 MB left) and I thought the app was causing it. Even though all the recordings seem to have been on the sd card, uninstalling it appeared to remove about 350 MB of something from the internal storage. Shortly after that (but not immediately after), every time I would end a phone call com.android.phone would force-close. I thought it was weird, but not too troublesome since it only happened after I ended a call, so it didn't affect my actual usage of the phone beyond having to tap an extra button every time I hung up the phone.
Then the other day, I noticed Villuminati was out and it was Kit Kat, so I went to install it, which failed spectacularly (as I said above, probably due to something I did or didn't do, but I'm not positive), and I posted this thread. You pretty much know the rest if you've read to this point.
electrickoolaid said:
From that version of GApps, what all did you download and use, exactly? I grabbed Standard and almost everything that didn't come included with it and flashed it all with the same ROM and the phone went into a bootloop that consisted of repeatedly verifiying apps (67 of them), throwing an error message similar to the ones I was getting before, then rebooting to do it all again.
I got a new Galaxy S4 ($50 at Best Buy with a 2-year contract renewal, woot-- Sprint wanted to charge me $200 for the same thing through them directly), so this isn't a pressing issue anymore, but I'd like to give the Evo 3D to my sister-in-law for Christmas. I ended up putting some AOKP Jelly Bean ROM on it (the zip was labeled Unofficial AOKP JB 3.5, I believe) I had sitting in the roms folder on my sd card with its own kernel next to it, and the phone appears to be functioning fine, but I'd like to a) figure out wtf the problem was/is with this ROM or GApps or whatever (something I did wrong probably) because dastin's stuff has always worked great for me before, and b) see Kit Kat in action on the phone. Either that or put it back to stock, which was, what, ICS? Did Sprint Evo's ever get an official upgrade to Jelly Bean?
In any case, and in lieu of posting in the relevant thread in the development forum since I don't have enough posts yet, here's the information about the phone at the time of this weirdness:
S-OFF
Hboot 1.40
Radio 1.09.00.0706
TWRP v2.6.3.0 recovery
NineInchNails' kernel posted in dastin1015's CM10.1-based ROM thread (Wild for the Night)
The ROM on the phone before the attempt to upgrade was dastin's latest Hood Pope version (Oct. 21st, 2013), which had been running just fine up until...
.... about 2 weeks ago, I uninstalled this Call Recorder app because I was running out of internal storage (~40 MB left) and I thought the app was causing it. Even though all the recordings seem to have been on the sd card, uninstalling it appeared to remove about 350 MB of something from the internal storage. Shortly after that (but not immediately after), every time I would end a phone call com.android.phone would force-close. I thought it was weird, but not too troublesome since it only happened after I ended a call, so it didn't affect my actual usage of the phone beyond having to tap an extra button every time I hung up the phone.
Then the other day, I noticed Villuminati was out and it was Kit Kat, so I went to install it, which failed spectacularly (as I said above, probably due to something I did or didn't do, but I'm not positive), and I posted this thread. You pretty much know the rest if you've read to this point.
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i flashed rom then 12-6_gapps_standard_4.4.1_signed then reboot this is the link for the gapps : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012857

[Q] Help with new to me Sensation 4G

Hello everyone,
I am a complete noob and hopefully you guys can help me out. I have tried to wrap my head around all the new android terms and my head is spinning. Anyways, I was given a HTC Sensation 4G Z710a on the Bell network. I registered on the htcdev to unlock the bootloader and following the steps, I fail to get the token. I have tried on two PC's and my friend tried on his MAC. My friend thinks the reason it fails is because the phones software is not up to date. Is it possible that it cannot get the token because the software is out of date? We tried to update the software and it fails. The problem looks like it is due to the installation of a clockworkmod. I have tried using the factory reset and the the cwm to do a factory reset and nothing has changed. Other than this, it looks like the phone has S-OFF and is not rooted.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello everyone,
I am a complete noob and hopefully you guys can help me out. I have tried to wrap my head around all the new android terms and my head is spinning. Anyways, I was given a HTC Sensation 4G Z710a on the Bell network. I registered on the htcdev to unlock the bootloader and following the steps, I fail to get the token. I have tried on two PC's and my friend tried on his MAC. My friend thinks the reason it fails is because the phones software is not up to date. Is it possible that it cannot get the token because the software is out of date? We tried to update the software and it fails. The problem looks like it is due to the installation of a clockworkmod. I have tried using the factory reset and the the cwm to do a factory reset and nothing has changed. Other than this, it looks like the phone has S-OFF and is not rooted.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Kind of hard for us to tell you if the issue is the software update, when you haven't told us which update it's on. However, since the phone has already been modded, and is S-Off, that means the bootloader is already unlocked so using the HTCdev website is not needed. You can just update via a custom rom since you already have CWM.
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Kind of hard for us to tell you if the issue is the software update, when you haven't told us which update it's on. However, since the phone has already been modded, and is S-Off, that means the bootloader is already unlocked so using the HTCdev website is not needed. You can just update via a custom rom since you already have CWM.
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Thank you for your reply with the good news. This is probably irrelevant now that you said i can update via a custom rom. Under software information: Android Version; 2.3.3, HTC Sense Version; 3.0, Software Number 1.35.666.1.
It looks like now I need to research how to update via a custom rom and which rom to get. (Update. I looked into flashing a ruu and my cid is SuperCID 11111111. As long as I find a ruu that is Pyramid TMOUS, it should be good?) I am exited to be getting rid of my junky iphone. Do you have any suggestions as to what rom to get??
Messed_sensation said:
Thank you for your reply with the good news. This is probably irrelevant now that you said i can update via a custom rom. Under software information: Android Version; 2.3.3, HTC Sense Version; 3.0, Software Number 1.35.666.1.
It looks like now I need to research how to update via a custom rom and which rom to get. (Update. I looked into flashing a ruu and my cid is SuperCID 11111111. As long as I find a ruu that is Pyramid TMOUS, it should be good?) I am exited to be getting rid of my junky iphone. Do you have any suggestions as to what rom to get??
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I would upgrade the phone to ICS via the RUU. I suggest this for 2 reasons - 1) so you can have the newest update and firmware as just flashing an ICS rom by itself will not be a good idea as you will have issues with the touch sensors and radios (touch screen won't respond and signal issues) and 2) so you can have experience on how to put the phone back to stock in case there's an issue during flashing a rom, or you need to resell it. Once you have the RUU and know it works, then flashing roms will be much less scary as there aren't many things you can do that would not be fixable by it. You can get away with just flashing the rom and the firmware as well, but I speak with many years of experience and 100s of phones under my belt, and I know that whenever I play with a new phone, I learn how to fix it first before I learn how to mod it.
As far as suggestions, I would start with something simple and solid like Android Revolution HD. See what you like and dislike and go from there.
es0tericcha0s said:
I would upgrade the phone to ICS via the RUU. I suggest this for 2 reasons - 1) so you can have the newest update and firmware as just flashing an ICS rom by itself will not be a good idea as you will have issues with the touch sensors and radios (touch screen won't respond and signal issues) and 2) so you can have experience on how to put the phone back to stock in case there's an issue during flashing a rom, or you need to resell it. Once you have the RUU and know it works, then flashing roms will be much less scary as there aren't many things you can do that would not be fixable by it. You can get away with just flashing the rom and the firmware as well, but I speak with many years of experience and 100s of phones under my belt, and I know that whenever I play with a new phone, I learn how to fix it first before I learn how to mod it.
As far as suggestions, I would start with something simple and solid like Android Revolution HD. See what you like and dislike and go from there.
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Thank you for all your help and suggestion:good:. I am now running the Android Revolution HD.
This is a huge change from my iphone 4.
es0tericcha0s said:
I would upgrade the phone to ICS via the RUU. I suggest this for 2 reasons - 1) so you can have the newest update and firmware as just flashing an ICS rom by itself will not be a good idea as you will have issues with the touch sensors and radios (touch screen won't respond and signal issues) and 2) so you can have experience on how to put the phone back to stock in case there's an issue during flashing a rom, or you need to resell it. Once you have the RUU and know it works, then flashing roms will be much less scary as there aren't many things you can do that would not be fixable by it. You can get away with just flashing the rom and the firmware as well, but I speak with many years of experience and 100s of phones under my belt, and I know that whenever I play with a new phone, I learn how to fix it first before I learn how to mod it.
As far as suggestions, I would start with something simple and solid like Android Revolution HD. See what you like and dislike and go from there.
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Here is another update, and I am not sure if you can help. I thought everything was fine with the install, but it seems like my mobile network is not working. I followed all the steps from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 except I used Clockwork Mod instead of 4EXT Touch Recovery. I looked through all the related settings and even tried changing them, rebooting and seeing if it made any changes. I also even followed the steps a second time and got the same result.
Messed_sensation said:
Here is another update, and I am not sure if you can help. I thought everything was fine with the install, but it seems like my mobile network is not working. I followed all the steps from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 except I used Clockwork Mod instead of 4EXT Touch Recovery. I looked through all the related settings and even tried changing them, rebooting and seeing if it made any changes. I also even followed the steps a second time and got the same result.
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Is it just data or are you unable to make calls and texts as well? If it's just data, then most likely it is an issue with the Bell APN needing set correctly. If you don't get a signal or any connection to the cell towers, then you might not have the right firmware or radio. Did you update to the last update HTC put out for it?
es0tericcha0s said:
Is it just data or are you unable to make calls and texts as well? If it's just data, then most likely it is an issue with the Bell APN needing set correctly. If you don't get a signal or any connection to the cell towers, then you might not have the right firmware or radio. Did you update to the last update HTC put out for it?
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:good:You are good! It was just my data that was not working, and you were right on the money. After reading your reply, I checked my APN settings and adjusted them accordingly to what my carrier states. It is working perfectly now. Thank you so very much for your help. Take care.
Messed_sensation said:
:good:You are good! It was just my data that was not working, and you were right on the money. After reading your reply, I checked my APN settings and adjusted them accordingly to what my carrier states. It is working perfectly now. Thank you so very much for your help. Take care.
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I do this kinda stuff for a living. Glad all is well. Enjoy your "new" phone. :victory:
es0tericcha0s said:
I do this kinda stuff for a living. Glad all is well. Enjoy your "new" phone. :victory:
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I have been getting around 12 hours out of my battery with not too much use on the phone. I am running the SebastionFM Kernel. I read that I will get better battery life on the Bricked Kernel. Can you tell me if that is the way to go? I am trying to dl the kernel to flash it, but I am not sure which file to download. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668. Also, when I flash the Kernel, Is it pretty straight forward or are there settings that I would need to choose.
Thanks again.
Messed_sensation said:
I have been getting around 12 hours out of my battery with not too much use on the phone. I am running the SebastionFM Kernel. I read that I will get better battery life on the Bricked Kernel. Can you tell me if that is the way to go? I am trying to dl the kernel to flash it, but I am not sure which file to download. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668. Also, when I flash the Kernel, Is it pretty straight forward or are there settings that I would need to choose.
Thanks again.
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Depends on which rom you are using... The developer of the kernel mentioned near the end of the thread that his kernels are a little outdated for the newer Sense roms that are out there, so you might need to proceed with caution. Whenever you are flashing kernels, you should both make sure you have things backed up somewhere safe (Google, your PC, etc) as well as make a nandroid backup in recovery before flashing. It's typically recommended to wipe the cache and dalvik cache before installing new kernels (since you are S-Off, S-On users need a slightly different path to upgrade...). You might look into why your battery life is not as good as it could be in it's current configuration first before changing major components such as the kernel. Look into Greenify to hibernate apps while the screen is off and something like GSam Battery Monitor or Better Battery Stats or Wakelock Detector to break down the battery stats and wakelocks as those typically cause the biggest loss of battery life.
es0tericcha0s said:
Depends on which rom you are using... The developer of the kernel mentioned near the end of the thread that his kernels are a little outdated for the newer Sense roms that are out there, so you might need to proceed with caution. Whenever you are flashing kernels, you should both make sure you have things backed up somewhere safe (Google, your PC, etc) as well as make a nandroid backup in recovery before flashing. It's typically recommended to wipe the cache and dalvik cache before installing new kernels (since you are S-Off, S-On users need a slightly different path to upgrade...). You might look into why your battery life is not as good as it could be in it's current configuration first before changing major components such as the kernel. Look into Greenify to hibernate apps while the screen is off and something like GSam Battery Monitor or Better Battery Stats or Wakelock Detector to break down the battery stats and wakelocks as those typically cause the biggest loss of battery life.
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I think it is my battery. I picked up an Anker and the phone is now at 20% after 21hrs. Is there a way to get Emoji to work on my phone? When people SMS me, on the lock screen they show up as a question mark in a box but when i go to read the text message there is nothing there.
Using a different keyboard will let you send Emojis, but not really sure about enabling the view from other people's messages off the top of my head, sorry. I recommend SwiftKey for a great keyboard replacement with lots of built in Emojis.

What is currently the most stable and most current Rom available for the DNA?

I currently have a lollipop rom version 5.1 (3.4.10-Nuk3rn3l) that has many quircks which make my DNA fairly unpleasant to use. I'd like to flash a build that is solidly reliable, even if it means downgrading.
What are my options? It is extremely daunting to wade through the endless posts of this development forum to find one that is stable.
What quirks are you having? Are you on the latest firmware and used the recommended recovery to flash? These HTC phones are very picky and can cause some undesired effects when flashing against recommendations of OP. I would assume you are running @santod040's GPE rom. His roms are pretty darn stable if installed correctly. If you did follow install procedure exactly as recommended and still have issues, try his nusense rom.
Yeah, I'd love to hear what instability issues("quirks") you might be having with my GPE port...I'm unaware of any.
Those who have issues and don't ask about them with logs or details, can't expect much.
You can always go back to a stock Kitkat Rom if the hard work of others isn't appreciated.
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santod040 said:
Yeah, I'd love to hear what instability issues("quirks") you might be having with my GPE port...I'm unaware of any.
Those who have issues and don't ask about them with logs or details, can't expect much.
You can always go back to a stock Kitkat Rom if the hard work of others isn't appreciated.
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I appreciate all you do and it probably does have something to do with not having the most up to date software. I am experiencing a lot of little things that combine to be very frustrating in day to day use. In no particular order; I cannot send consecutive text messages without cycling airplane mode, the restart option when holding the power button has disappeared, every few days the phone will shut off and will be unable to be turned back on without plugging in a power cable (this has something to do with user input but I have yet to recognize the pattern that causes it), apps will frequently crash, the phone no longer automatically connects to wifi networks, and a few other things.
I don't know what info you would need, my kernel is 3.4.10-NuK3rn3l-dlx-GPE-Lollipop_v2.00 . Build number is LMY470.H6
I love that people are still developing for this phone, I just think a lot of this custom firmware business goes over my head.
Those issues sound like firmware outdated and some odd stuff that only an ruu can fix. Below is the most up to date ruu for this phone. Before you flash, be sure to back everything up to an external storage device (PC, USB otg, etc). After you ruu, flash the recommended recovery in the rom thread and then clean flash the rom (wipe data, cache, system). Do not restore the nandroid backup. It could be something software that is causing the app FCs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2935556
Edit: I know for a fact the Wi-Fi issue is because of outdated firmware, others might be wrong recovery, but to save the hassle, just ruu to be safe.
Do me a favor: Run "fastboot getvar all" and take a look at line three and six. I am having the exact same issues as you. My line 3 for baseband was version 1.02.01.0818, NOT the 1.02.01.0207 that the latest firmware thread stated it should be. My line 6 (version-main) was blank. After flashing the latest radio zip it now shows a 1.02.01.0207 for baseband and 4.09.605.1 for version-main. This isn't my main phone anymore so its not activated in a way that i can test it. However it may be a starting point for you. I'd be curious if you have the same radios that my phone did.

Question Root with TWRP or just patched boot.img???

HI, All
I have had Nord 2 three months now. First Nord 2 was in service 3 times. So I got new device. Now this new has been two times at service. I have rooted both with TWRP (denniz) and Magisk of course.
I was wondering if TWRP is causing all the problems or is it just that Nord 2 does not like to be rooted.
And now I am thinking not to root but root has its benefits, so I guess I'll root but which method, TWRP or not.
Have you had problems after rooting? If you have, have you used TWRP and Magisk or just Magisk, no TWRP??
It would be nice if you would share your comments.
Thank you
My experience: if sent in for service, all they do is re-flash stock rom. This is where the problems start! I've been talking with an experienced guy from "The Phone Lab" in The Netherlands, which is the contractor for OnePlus repairs in my country.
Thing is, if your phone got messed up, THINGS REMAIN IN THE MEMORY after re-flashing stock. The ONLY thing that works to get a flawless CLEAN system (once even a TWRP-folder survived, but espacially the partition for your fingerprint etc. tempts to stay currupted in a way leading to several strange behaviours).
So to get a clean system, the "repaircompany" should:
- flash stock rom
- boot into STOCK recovery
- fully wipe
- flash stock rom again
NOW your device will work as stock WITHOUT strange behaviour. Mine has been stock flashed 5 times. I know what I am talking about. Every time different errors, which stopped / got eliminated after wiping inbetween.
The problem is, if you send your device to an OnePlus contractor or OnePlus servicepoint, they will not do this, since even THEY are not aware. Because after a stock flash the phone INTENTS to work normally. Strange behaviour sometimes even starts after set-up.
It's the most frustrating phone I ever had.
exis_tenz said:
My experience: if sent in for service, all they do is re-flash stock rom. This is where the problems start! I've been talking with an experienced guy from "The Phone Lab" in The Netherlands, which is the contractor for OnePlus repairs in my country.
Thing is, if your phone got messed up, THINGS REMAIN IN THE MEMORY after re-flashing stock. The ONLY thing that works to get a flawless CLEAN system (once even a TWRP-folder survived, but espacially the partition for your fingerprint etc. tempts to stay currupted in a way leading to several strange behaviours).
So to get a clean system, the "repaircompany" should:
- flash stock rom
- boot into STOCK recovery
- fully wipe
- flash stock rom again
NOW your device will work as stock WITHOUT strange behaviour. Mine has been stock flashed 5 times. I know what I am talking about. Every time different errors, which stopped / got eliminated after wiping inbetween.
The problem is, if you send your device to an OnePlus contractor or OnePlus servicepoint, they will not do this, since even THEY are not aware. Because after a stock flash the phone INTENTS to work normally. Strange behaviour sometimes even starts after set-up.
It's the most frustrating phone I ever had.
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Hi and thank you for reply.
That was new to me but explains a lot. But also I remined that my 1st Nord2 got new motherboard (IMEI and S/N was different) and now my new Nord2 has new motherboard. So after replacing motherboard it should be as totally new. But still with 1st device I end up problems. I have not rooted my new Nord 2 because my intention was to find out if it is TWRP which is causing problems or is it the device - hardware vs OS after root rocess regardless TWRP or not.
Basically is Nord 2 working as "normal" devices after rooting or not.
To tell you the truth, I am fed up with this phone too
Hi jis251: we can shake hands. After the 4th (!) stockrom-flash by a OnePlus-servicecenter and still having strange behaviour (for example I was not able to set a fingerprint, the device-motor just kept shaking when I tried), they "decided" that my motherboard was broken. It was switched under warrantee and after that I messed up something and then a "regular" stock-flash didn't work either. You DO need to flash stock (@servicepoint or by yourself), then REBOOT into STOCK recovery, WIPE EVERYTHING, and flash stock again (with OnePlus-tool only they have).
The problem is that OnePlus (and their servicecenters) are NOT aware of this (and probably don't care). But once rooted with strange behaviour this is a must.
For now, fingers crossed, everything seems to work. I have TWRP 3.6 (Denniz) installed, Magisk 24.1, several modules (AFWall Boot AntiLeak, BuiltIn BusyBox, F-Droid privileged Extension, Magisk Bootloop Protector -not sure if this does anything, not tested-, Shamiko, Universal SafetyNet Fix and Zygisk LSPosed.
Also in LSPosed I have 4 modules activated: AFWall+, Disable FLAG_Seure, XPrivacyLua and GravityBox [R].
This setup works and passes SafetyNet without problem. Banking Apps work. The only thing I cannot get to work (keeps detecting root) is my Cupra App (for my car - same as Volkswagen App) as posted here: Cupra
The setup on my OnePlus 7 pro (A10) and Nord 2 5G (A11) - both stock roms - is the same. Both pass banking apps but the Volkswagen/Cupra app they do not. I can live with that as long as that is the only exception. It sucks, but privacy above all ;-)
after a week no broblem with my rooted nord 2 (twrp+ magisk canary) all working as well!
exis_tenz said:
My experience: if sent in for service, all they do is re-flash stock rom. This is where the problems start! I've been talking with an experienced guy from "The Phone Lab" in The Netherlands, which is the contractor for OnePlus repairs in my country.
Thing is, if your phone got messed up, THINGS REMAIN IN THE MEMORY after re-flashing stock. The ONLY thing that works to get a flawless CLEAN system (once even a TWRP-folder survived, but espacially the partition for your fingerprint etc. tempts to stay currupted in a way leading to several strange behaviours).
So to get a clean system, the "repaircompany" should:
- flash stock rom
- boot into STOCK recovery
- fully wipe
- flash stock rom again
NOW your device will work as stock WITHOUT strange behaviour. Mine has been stock flashed 5 times. I know what I am talking about. Every time different errors, which stopped / got eliminated after wiping inbetween.
The problem is, if you send your device to an OnePlus contractor or OnePlus servicepoint, they will not do this, since even THEY are not aware. Because after a stock flash the phone INTENTS to work normally. Strange behaviour sometimes even starts after set-up.
It's the most frustrating phone I ever had.
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No way. I had my phone serviced at the same place and now I don't get OTA updates anymore and have to install them manually. My Bluetooth is also working less reliably. I had my suspicions but thanks for confirming it.
You DO need to flash stock (@servicepoint or by yourself), then REBOOT into STOCK recovery, WIPE EVERYTHING, and flash stock again (with OnePlus-tool only they have).
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Just to be clear: is it possible to do by myself? Or is their tool required in this step? But yeah I was really hoping flashing would be as straight forward as with my previous OnePlus phones
Kenaestic said:
No way. I had my phone serviced at the same place and now I don't get OTA updates anymore and have to install them manually. My Bluetooth is also working less reliably. I had my suspicions but thanks for confirming it.
Just to be clear: is it possible to do by myself? Or is their tool required in this step? But yeah I was really hoping flashing would be as straight forward as with my previous OnePlus phones
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Hi Kenaestic, so you are from The Netherlands as am I? Honestly, I don't know if you can do it yourself. Maybe with the tool from (I mean Pankspoo) you can put back all the partitions etc., get to some kind of "stock-state" and be able to wipe everything in stock recovery. But I am just not sure.
I am kind of "ready" with this phone. I am on version 17 (stock A11) and once rooted I decided to not take anymore OTA's. The phone is just way too unreliable. And it IS my daily driver for work, so I can't risk it. It freaks me out that I can't "normally" flash back a stock rom, an d I am too unexpierenced for ASB, commands, etc. I'm an user, not a programmer.
I got 5 (!) reflashes from The Phone Laband a new mainboard. Once, I got suspicious when a TWRP-folder was STILL THERE after a stock-re-flash. From that moment on, and all the problems with fingerprint and PIN-locks, that something just survives that factory flash (I always managed to mess things up by rooting).
Now the damn thing works (and really I still like it). I came from the OP7pro, but this device is just so much lighter and better in the hand (not top-heavy). It's snappy, it's fast. But in the meantime I will start working on my OnePlus 7 pro to get E/OS running and finally my goal is to de-google. Once that works, the OP Nord 2 will be sold and the OP7 pro will be my back-up phone.
The Nord 2 is good and I love it, but software is a failure. Never a MediaTek-device for me again.
exis_tenz said:
Hi Kenaestic, so you are from The Netherlands as am I? Honestly, I don't know if you can do it yourself. Maybe with the tool from (I mean Pankspoo) you can put back all the partitions etc., get to some kind of "stock-state" and be able to wipe everything in stock recovery. But I am just not sure.
I am kind of "ready" with this phone. I am on version 17 (stock A11) and once rooted I decided to not take anymore OTA's. The phone is just way too unreliable. And it IS my daily driver for work, so I can't risk it. It freaks me out that I can't "normally" flash back a stock rom, an d I am too unexpierenced for ASB, commands, etc. I'm an user, not a programmer.
I got 5 (!) reflashes from The Phone Laband a new mainboard. Once, I got suspicious when a TWRP-folder was STILL THERE after a stock-re-flash. From that moment on, and all the problems with fingerprint and PIN-locks, that something just survives that factory flash (I always managed to mess things up by rooting).
Now the damn thing works (and really I still like it). I came from the OP7pro, but this device is just so much lighter and better in the hand (not top-heavy). It's snappy, it's fast. But in the meantime I will start working on my OnePlus 7 pro to get E/OS running and finally my goal is to de-google. Once that works, the OP Nord 2 will be sold and the OP7 pro will be my back-up phone.
The Nord 2 is good and I love it, but software is a failure. Never a MediaTek-device for me again.
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Haha ja zeker So this is something I have noticed as well. I'm in the same boat as you. I'm not a programmer and I come from a device where flashing was way easier. But for some reason this phone has persistent data on it that can not be reset or wiped. Maybe it was intended as a security measure. When you flash TWRP you probably noticed you can not boot into it without a commandline on your computer. Otherwise it will completely ignore the volume down + power combination and go straight to booting the OS. So I'm guessing OnePlus made it harder to tamper with the recovery. But for rooting it's only confusing, gives me headaches but most importantly; when you accidentally remove the ADB server authentication you're screwed because there is no recovery to boot into. I'm really hoping the miracle workers in the modding community find a way to work around these things. Because I first just thought it's kinda janky because they used a few work arounds to get TWRP running as fast as possible when the phone came out. But now I just don't know anymore. Anyway, I have an appointment with ThePhoneLab tomorrow and I'll report back if it did anything. Cheers.
exis_tenz said:
My experience: if sent in for service, all they do is re-flash stock rom. This is where the problems start! I've been talking with an experienced guy from "The Phone Lab" in The Netherlands, which is the contractor for OnePlus repairs in my country.
Thing is, if your phone got messed up, THINGS REMAIN IN THE MEMORY after re-flashing stock. The ONLY thing that works to get a flawless CLEAN system (once even a TWRP-folder survived, but espacially the partition for your fingerprint etc. tempts to stay currupted in a way leading to several strange behaviours).
So to get a clean system, the "repaircompany" should:
- flash stock rom
- boot into STOCK recovery
- fully wipe
- flash stock rom again
NOW your device will work as stock WITHOUT strange behaviour. Mine has been stock flashed 5 times. I know what I am talking about. Every time different errors, which stopped / got eliminated after wiping inbetween.
The problem is, if you send your device to an OnePlus contractor or OnePlus servicepoint, they will not do this, since even THEY are not aware. Because after a stock flash the phone INTENTS to work normally. Strange behaviour sometimes even starts after set-up.
It's the most frustrating phone I ever had.
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I agree to some point... When it comes to rooting and updating when rooted this Phone is a p.i.a. If kept stock it is not to bad... But you want root for a reason. I think it is because of the mediatek processor. But I am struggling with it too. I am on A16, with TWRP, not rooted. I want to go back to stock (locked bootloader), but I am having a hard time to understand how to do it. I would appreciate a step by step guide.... The ones on XDA so-far haven't helped me any further...
Ik zit dus in hetzelfde schuitje... (sorry for the Dutch) really curious if "The Phone lab" can fix it
The Phone Lab can only re-flash stock (not repair). You'll loose all data.

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