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I apologize if this is redundant but I searched the forums and was unable to find an answer. Can I take a non-contract Verizon VS985 over to the Sprint network and expect full functionality? If not, what problems (specific bands, LTE, etc) can I expect? I'm trying to determine if it's an easy transfer or if I'm better off buying a Sprint G3. Thanks!
Verizon uses CDMA on Bands 0 and 1, and LTE on Bands 13, 4, and 2.
Sprint uses CDMA on Bands 1 and 10, and LTE on Bands 25, 26, and 41.
If (huge if) you are able to get Sprint to add your Verizon LG G3 to their IMEI approved database, you'll be limited to just CDMA Band 1, which is in the 1900MHz range, so it doesn't have good building penetration, shorter signal distance, etc. You'll be limited to very slow EVDO speeds, no LTE at all.
You're better off getting the Sprint model, as it has all of Sprint's CDMA and LTE bands, as well as a functional FM radio receiver (which was disabled in the Verizon/AT&T/etc models).
I have V30+ (H932 /T-mobile version) I already get T-mobile Permanent Unlocked on my device.
Just realized that the bands availability for this device is not as many as Samsung Note 8 (T-Mobile version).
eg. no LTE band 8. The spec stated it has
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA B1/B2/B4/ B5;
LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B46/B66/B71 (USA-Tmobile)
Roaming LTE B1/B3/B7/B20/B38/B39/B40/B41
I will use this phone in the country that need LTE band 8.
by reading this thread;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/increasing-data-speeds-t-mobile-t3703325
It seems , I have found a way to get into engineering mode to get into band selection option and turned on the band I need.
but I have a doubt if this phone will be working especially LTE band 8 in my destination country where I have to Travel. (there is no LTE band 8 on LG V30+ t-mobile)
Can some one confirm and test to by switching SIM card, (must be temporary /permanent unlock), let say turn on band 17 from ATT since default T-mobile version is not available,
The area where I live T mobile and ATT use LTE band 4 so it is hard for me test myself with ATT SIM card if band 17 is working after I turned on that band.
Thank you
car2carl said:
The spec stated it has
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA B1/B2/B4/ B5;
LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B46/B66/B71 (USA-Tmobile)
Roaming LTE B1/B3/B7/B20/B38/B39/B40/B41
by reading this thread;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/increasing-data-speeds-t-mobile-t3703325
It seems , I have found a way to get into engineering mode to get into band selection option and turned on the band I need.
Can some one confirm and test to by switching SIM card, (must be temporary /permanent unlock), let say turn on band 17 from ATT since default T-mobile version is not available,
The area where I live T mobile and ATT use LTE band 4 so it is hard for me test myself with ATT SIM card if band 17 is working after I turned on that band.
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LTE band 17 is a subset of LTE band 12. All new AT&T phones now only list band 12, because it includes 17.
A lot of AT&T customers missed this news apparently:
AT&T’s 700MHz Systems Now Interoperate With Band 12/17 LTE
January 11, 2017
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...tems-now-interoperate-with-band-1217-lte.html
Here are the specs for the AT&T LG V30 H931 -- straight from both the LG and AT&T websites. DO YOU SEE BAND 17 listed on this AT&T phone?
No. Because LTE band 12 is listed -- therefore no need to list LTE band 17.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H931-Black-lg-v30
IF you go to the AT&T website to BUY an LG V30 H931 from them, here are the bands they show you are on the their own phone. Slightly different order from the LG.com website -- but still NO band 17. No need to show LTE band 17, since LTE band 12 is there!
https://www.att.com/cellphones/lg/v30.html#sku=sku8510583
The V300 I received from HK didn't have the B20 LTE band on the spec sheet.
But when i enabled it in the engineering menu, it worked perfectly with European networks.
There are some apps that give you the ability to record the bands number you encounter and log them.
Hi.
How to run engineering mod ??
Thank you.
milennium said:
Hi.
How to run engineering mod ??
Thank you.
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See this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...s-t-mobile-t3703325/post74475386#post74475386
Septembersrain said:
I found something interesting on reddit:
Go to dialer, put in 277634#*#
Band selection
Select all and press save.
My data went up from about 25mbps to over 50mbps.
Can't guarantee this to work with all carriers/models but you could try? Let me know if you do?
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk.
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And these are the bands she enabled on her T-mobile H932:
Septembersrain said:
Oh and it does show band 71 unlike the photos I sent before showing the bands.
Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk.
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Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
milennium said:
Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
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Read the thread link I posted. Other people found other codes that worked for their phones. Like this reply:
Sean473 said:
This code does not work on the European H930 Model.. Is it just 277634#*# or something more?.
Update: Found the LTE band menu by using the *#54638#*930# code... I didn't have any checkboxes... Everything seems enabled to me... Separate menu is present to enable carrier aggregation around there..
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There's also "hidden menu" apps you can download from Google Play store that will open those and other menus.
Plus google is your friend:
https://www.google.com/search?q=lg+.....69i57j0l5.4911j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
milennium said:
Hi.
Code 277634#*# not working...
LGM-V300L...
Thank you.
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Try this code : 5457#*300#
ChazzMatt said:
LTE band 17 is a subset of LTE band 12. All new AT&T phones now only list band 12, because it includes 17.
A lot of AT&T customers missed this news apparently:
AT&T’s 700MHz Systems Now Interoperate With Band 12/17 LTE
January 11, 2017
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...tems-now-interoperate-with-band-1217-lte.html
Here are the specs for the AT&T LG V30 H931 -- straight from both the LG and AT&T websites. DO YOU SEE BAND 17 listed on this AT&T phone?
No. Because LTE band 12 is listed -- therefore no need to list LTE band 17.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H931-Black-lg-v30
IF you go to the AT&T website to BUY an LG V30 H931 from them, here are the bands they show you are on the their own phone. Slightly different order from the LG.com website -- but still NO band 17. No need to show LTE band 17, since LTE band 12 is there!
https://www.att.com/cellphones/lg/v30.html#sku=sku8510583
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Thanks , good to know that Band 17 interoperate with 12 , but in frequencychek.com ATT still stated band 17 part of their band allocation, so in my case to test it on band 29 which T mobile V30 don't have.
iOR3K said:
The V300 I received from HK didn't have the B20 LTE band on the spec sheet.
But when i enabled it in the engineering menu, it worked perfectly with European networks.
There are some apps that give you the ability to record the bands number you encounter and log them.
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Thanks , it might be good news for me then
So if someone concern about band coverage for LG V30 , purchase the T mobile version is the best choice and Unlocked the networks
because this device also cover band 71
iOR3K do you have band 71 listed on your V300 ?
car2carl said:
Thanks , it might be good news for me then
So if someone concern about band coverage for LG V30 , purchase the T mobile version is the best choice and Unlocked the networks
because this device also cover band 71
iOR3K do you have band 71 listed on your V300 ?
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I'm not sure since I sold the phone, sorry. I'm waiting for my new H930G.
Thank you all...
iOR3K said:
I'm not sure since I sold the phone, sorry. I'm waiting for my new H930G.
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I misunderstood you, is V300 part of V30 variant ?
car2carl said:
I misunderstood you, is V300 part of V30 variant ?
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I first got the V300L which is a Korean variant, but since it can't be BL unlocked or rooted, i decided to sell it and wait for the European H930/H930G.
car2carl said:
Thanks , good to know that Band 17 interoperate with 12 , but in frequencychek.com ATT still stated band 17 part of their band allocation, so in my case to test it on band 29 which T mobile V30 don't have.
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Read my reply again. 17 is subset of 12. Even new AT&T phones no longer show "17", since they will now show 12. If you have 12, then you have 17. New AT&T phones will no longer show separate 17.
Even the AT&T LG V30 doesn't show 17. Why? Because 17 is already IN 12. (Like sugar is in cookies.)
But I'm repeating myself over and over. Just go read that post again.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74775455
Or if you don't believe me, read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
ChazzMatt said:
Read my reply again. 17 is subset of 12. Even new AT&T phones no longer show "17", since they will now show 12. If you have 12, then you have 17. New AT&T phones will no longer show separate 17.
Even the AT&T LG V30 doesn't show 17. Why? Because 17 is already IN 12.
But I'm repeating myself over and over. Just go read that post again.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74775455
Or if you don't believe me, read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
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There is no reason not to believe your point, as I already said "good to know"
I don't need to argue about it .
In technical point ATT band 17 is already covered by band 12 (T-mobile) which 700Mhz ( a )
for some people they just read band 17 is band 17 not band 12. and obviously they are thinking it is different with limitation of technical knowledge.
I just pointed out the frequencycheck.com
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
I guessed ATT can't just stated they are using band 12 which they don't have (extended range LTE 700Mhz a)
car2carl said:
There is no reason not to believe your point, as I already said "good to know"
I don't need to argue about it .
In technical point ATT band 17 is already covered by band 12 (T-mobile) which 700Mhz ( a )
for some people they just read band 17 is band 17 not band 12. and obviously they are thinking it is different with limitation of technical knowledge.
I just pointed out the frequencycheck.com
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/at-t-united-states
I guessed ATT can't just stated they are using band 12 which they don't have (extended range LTE 700Mhz a)
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AT&T now calls it band 12 on their phones moving forward.
Older phones will still show "17".
That site you keep giving link to is not an AT&T website and you have no idea when it was even last updated. I'm not even going to bother going to that site because I know I'm right. I really don't care what they say. They haven't kept up with current development.
It's why the AT&T LG V30 H931 on the AT&T website doesn't have LTE band 17 listed, but has LTE band 12 in the specs instead.
There are apps like LTE Discovery that will show you what bands you are on, and even keep a log as you travel around.
ChazzMatt said:
AT&T now calls it band 12 on their phones moving forward.
Older phones will still show "17".
That site you keep giving link to is not an AT&T website and you have no idea when it was even last updated. I'm not even going to bother going to that site because I know I'm right. I really don't care what they say. They haven't kept up with current development.
It's why the AT&T LG V30 H931 on the AT&T website doesn't have LTE band 17 listed, but has LTE band 12 in the specs instead.
There are apps like LTE Discovery that will show you what bands you are on, and even keep a log as you travel around.
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On my US998, here's the bands I am getting as I travelled to work yesterday morning. I was getting LTE bands 2 and 12. As expected it's now LTE band 12, not "17" -- because AT&T doesn't call it Band 17 anymore (except older phones will still show that). All new AT&T phones or new phones compatible with AT&T (like the US9998) will show LTE band 12.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/47blo3/eli5_band_12_vs_band_17/
Band 12 consists of the frequencies 698-716 and 728-746. This band is the only band that covers the 700a block that T-Mobile uses, and also happens to cover the b-block and lower-c-block that AT&T uses.
AT&T is upgrading its network so that it can handle Band 12 phones, since Band 17 is a subset of Band 12. This means that people will be able to use T-Mobile phones on the AT&T network.
Additionally, AT&T's phones will begin coming with Band 12, which means they can be used on the T-Mobile network.
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So now that all variants besides the T-Mobile V30 have root I am hoping maybe that opened up more options to get more USA bands working on my India H930DS.
I read a few threads about adding bands on older phones with root access particularly this one for the Galaxy s5:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....o-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059/amp/
It details the whole process of adding extra 3g and LTE bands on a rooted s5 with custom rom/kernel. He also states it should work on any Qualcomm based devices.
My question is will something like this work on newer devices such as my H930DS V30+?
Also i am not sure but i am assuming the "ids" he mentions in the steps 17-23 are going to be different?
Can any experts here confirm weather the process in the thread i linked would be relevant for my purposes or any other methods that can take advantage of root to add/enable more bands?
Ah come on. Someone at least give me some hope that i can keep this phone.
Back in 2015 we tried that Qualcomm method with Moto Quarks (Moto Maxx, Moto Turbo) and it didn't work. I don't know about LG phones.
I think no only one is answering because they really don't know.
All I know is when you flash Sprint LS998 to US998, it takes on those bands and loses a couple of Sprint bands. Sprint guy @JWnSC reflashed Sprint modem and got them back. So it IS possible to add/remove LTE bands from the V30. Whether it's possible in the way you need, I don't know. You're crossing hemispheres.
Alright thanks for the answer. I just don't want to go through the whole process of bl unlock and root just to find out I can't even get the tools to connect to the phone and read/write the bands or something stupid like that.
ChazzMatt said:
Back in 2015 we tried that Qualcomm method with Moto Quarks (Moto Maxx, Moto Turbo) and it didn't work. I don't know about LG phones.
I think no only one is answering because they really don't know.
All I know is when you flash Sprint LS998 to US998, it takes on those bands and loses a couple of Sprint bands. Sprint guy @JWnSC reflashed Sprint modem and got them back. So it IS possible to add/remove LTE bands from the V30. Whether it's possible in the way you need, I don't know. You're crossing hemispheres.
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I can add, when I flashed the VS996 modem back after BL unlock/root, the hidden menu did not show the additional bands that, according to GSMArena, should have been present (46 & 66). Instead, it showed the native US998 bands and my connection was screwed up.
It may have been something I did or didn't do... I don't know.
ugoff said:
I can add, when I flashed the VS996 modem back after BL unlock/root, the hidden menu did not show the additional bands that, according to GSMArena, should have been present (46 & 66). Instead, it showed the native US998 bands and my connection was screwed up.
It may have been something I did or didn't do... I don't know.
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Worked for me. US998 supposedly doesn't have bands 26 or 41. I have both working
JWnSC said:
Worked for me. US998 supposedly doesn't have bands 26 or 41. I have both working
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(Don't mind the theme. It's a lgv30 I like the Samsung nav bar)
JWnSC said:
Worked for me. US998 supposedly doesn't have bands 26 or 41. I have both working
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Maybe some description of how to flash the modem correctly is what we need. I just flashed the modem partition using patched LGUP with the VS996 kdz.
Nickvanexel said:
So now that all variants besides the T-Mobile V30 have root I am hoping maybe that opened up more options to get more USA bands working on my India H930DS.
I read a few threads about adding bands on older phones with root access particularly this one for the Galaxy s5:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....o-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059/amp/
It details the whole process of adding extra 3g and LTE bands on a rooted s5 with custom rom/kernel. He also states it should work on any Qualcomm based devices.
My question is will something like this work on newer devices such as my H930DS V30+?
Also i am not sure but i am assuming the "ids" he mentions in the steps 17-23 are going to be different?
Can any experts here confirm weather the process in the thread i linked would be relevant for my purposes or any other methods that can take advantage of root to add/enable more bands?
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Here's what I don't understand. If you flashed the H930 over your H930DS phone, these are the bands you should have...
If you have"H930" (either actual or converted), you will have these bands:
2G GSM: 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G (HSPA): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G LTE: 1/2/3/4/5/8/12/17/20/28/38
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These are the US998 bands:
If you now have bootloader unlocked, rooted "US998" (either actual or converted) you will have these bands:
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Silver-lg-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
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So what bands are you missing that you need to add? I know Sprint users want LTE band 26 and 41, which can be added back by flashing the Sprint modem. I know T-mobile users would love LTE band 71 (probably not going to happen). Verizon users want Wi-Fi calling back and that's been solved.
But you SHOULD already be getting LTE on AT&T or T-mobile on the existing bands.
ChazzMatt said:
Here's what I don't understand. If you flashed the H930 over your H930DS phone, these are the bands you should have...
These are the US998 bands:
So what bands are you missing that you need to add? I know Sprint users want LTE band 26 and 41, which can be added back by flashing the Sprint modem. I know T-mobile users would love LTE band 71 (probably not going to happen). Verizon users want Wi-Fi calling back and that's been solved.
But you SHOULD already be getting LTE on AT&T or T-mobile on the existing bands.
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That is the problem I'm encountering. I flashed the H930 kdz on my H930DS and I am still not getting the H930's bands, only the H930DS'. I'm not sure if I did something wrong here. I also tried to use partition dl mode in LGUP to flash only modem, xbl and xbl2 from the H930 kdz but still no change. Any help?
I don't know, maybe 66? I think 66 is extension of band 4 right? Something I read somewhere. All I know is nothing I tried would let me get anything better than a 2g/edge connection at home and a 3g connection in town. It was constantly only being able to get 2g that bothered me. If I could have gotten a consistent 3g/hspa connection I would have been more than happy with it. Anyways I just gave up and sold it.
Which bands are you missing?
The bands listed for the H930 earlier is not correct either. It supports a few more than that.
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According to GSMArena, India uses these bands: LTE 850 (5), LTE 1800 (3), LTE 2100 (1), LTE 2300 (40), LTE 2500 (41). All of them except 41 is supported by the H930DS. It sounds more like your APN settings were wonky.
All I know is with the same SIM card I am getting LTE+ connection on my new essential PH1 in the same spot I was only able to get 2g connection with the h930ds.
So has anyone figured out a way to add LTE bands to their US998?
I am stuck with AT&T H931 firmware mainly because I don't want to lose band 30. The more I dig into the AT&T firmware, the more I dislike what the big brother did.
Nickvanexel said:
All I know is with the same SIM card I am getting LTE+ connection on my new essential PH1 in the same spot I was only able to get 2g connection with the h930ds.
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Because your H930DS is not made for North American carriers. It's missing most North American carrier LTE bands. So, all you could receive is 2G bands.
Has nothing to do with SIM card, has everything to do with you not researching what you bought. .
You should have bought Open Market US998 V30+.
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abuchison said:
So has anyone figured out a way to add LTE bands to their US998?
I am stuck with AT&T H931 firmware mainly because I don't want to lose band 30. The more I dig into the AT&T firmware, the more I dislike what the big brother did.
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You can root and debloat the AT&T firmware if you wish.
So my phone has been running great since the conversion and still flys on ATT LTE, however I am a Mobile rep and I switch carriers on occasion, hence why I was wondering if the US998 modems actually enables the 800mhz CDMA band and allows me to use the verizon LTE bands.
Im not new to flashing and trying things out, and I can easily get my hands on a verizon android sim (yes there is a difference) to test anything.
Thoughts?
Link420able said:
So my phone has been running great since the conversion and still flys on ATT LTE, however I am a Mobile rep and I switch carriers on occasion, hence why I was wondering if the US998 modems actually enables the 800mhz CDMA band and allows me to use the verizon LTE bands.
Im not new to flashing and trying things out, and I can easily get my hands on a verizon android sim (yes there is a difference) to test anything.
Thoughts?
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The US998 is the "carrier unlocked" version, and many people have used US998 on Verizon, so there's no question the US998 has that band.
Converting any other North America phone to that should let you have all those bands of the US998.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Silver-lg-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
ChazzMatt said:
The US998 is the "carrier unlocked" version, and many people have used US998 on Verizon, so there's no question the US998 has that band.
Converting any other North America phone to that should let you have all those bands of the US998.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Silver-lg-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
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Ill have to test APN settings and clean boot with a verizon sim then. Ive tested a sim and it pulled phone number, but was still looking for signal.
Try making a backup in TWRP, and then flash JUST the Verizon system partition and see what you get.
rild is the daemon that talks to the modem, and Verizon may be slightly different.
-- Brian
Link420able said:
So my phone has been running great since the conversion and still flys on ATT LTE, however I am a Mobile rep and I switch carriers on occasion, hence why I was wondering if the US998 modems actually enables the 800mhz CDMA band and allows me to use the verizon LTE bands.
Im not new to flashing and trying things out, and I can easily get my hands on a verizon android sim (yes there is a difference) to test anything.
Thoughts?
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Maybe relevant to your question:
tyrich30 said:
Does anyone know how to get the Advanced Call feature to work. Mine is greyed out. VZW V30 to US998 . Everything else seems to work.
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Just an update. I featured it out. Had to go into the hidden menu *#*#4636#*#*, Phone information, turn VoLTE Provisioned = BAM! Back in business.
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LOVE success stories like that.
What is the verdict? H931 on CDMA yay/nay?
It works just fine. Just depends on the rom you use. On stock us998 i can get verizon to work but on boombox, i cant get a signal.
Hello. I'm planning to buy H931 and do the Frankenstein conversion to us998. The question is H931 doesn't have the UMTS 900 band but if I do the process for us998 will I have UMTS 900 or is a hardware thing?
racsomar said:
Hello. I'm planning to buy H931 and do the Frankenstein conversion to us998. The question is H931 doesn't have the UMTS 900 band but if I do the process for us998 will I have UMTS 900 or is a hardware thing?
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You will have all bands of US998.
The Frankenstein instructions make that clear.
ChazzMatt said:
You will have all bands of US998.
The Frankenstein instructions make that clear.
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Im sorry my English is not very good. But is unbelievable that H931 doesn't show UMTS 900 band on official description and doing the Frankenstein conversion you can add that UMTS 900 band. So it means that is disabled wow.
Another question. If the H931 AT&T model is not unlocked and I do the convertion then will be unlocked? Or I have to buy the unlock code for the IMEI???
racsomar said:
Im sorry my English is not very good. But is unbelievable that H931 doesn't show UMTS 900 band on official description and doing the Frankenstein conversion you can add that UMTS 900 band. So it means that is disabled wow.
Another question. If the H931 AT&T model is not unlocked and I do the convertion then will be unlocked? Or I have to buy the unlock code for the IMEI???
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Yes, AT&T H931 will be SIM card unlocked/network unlocked when you convert to US998.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
OP, can you confirm that you can use LTE band 13 on your H931 (AT&T) Frankenstein phone? I converted my VS996 to US998 10b, unlocked bootloader, updated to 20e (KDZ), and rooted with magisk 17.3. I can use T-Mobile VoLTE but can't connect to their LTE band 12. I've tried the US998 Hidden Menu hack by using T-Mobile's LTE band menu and selecting LTE bands 2, 4, 12, 66, and 71. When I leave only band 12 selected I only get 3G or 2G EDGE. Maybe T-Mobile doesn't like my phone's IMEI as it's from Verizon. On AT&T, I never got stable LTE because my old G4 was from T-Mobile, and it always dropped to 3G after a while. If hardware isn't the issue then it leads me to believe T-Mobile whitelists only their branded devices for band 12.
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OP, can you confirm that you can use LTE band 13 on your H931 (AT&T) Frankenstein phone? I converted my VS996 to US998 10b, unlocked bootloader, updated to 20e (KDZ), and rooted with magisk 17.3. I can use T-Mobile VoLTE but can't connect to their LTE band 12. I've tried the US998 Hidden Menu hack by using T-Mobile's LTE band menu and selecting LTE bands 2, 4, 12, 66, and 71. When I leave only band 12 selected I only get 3G or 2G EDGE. Maybe T-Mobile doesn't like my phone's IMEI as it's from Verizon. On AT&T, I never got stable LTE because my old G4 was from T-Mobile, and it always dropped to 3G after a while. If hardware isn't the issue then it leads me to believe T-Mobile whitelists only their branded devices for band 12.
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I get the success message when clicking on band 13 in the hidden menu. I am using the latest stock US998 rom. Its given me the best reception and still runs fluid as can be.
Also, did you just insert your sim card into the phone from your previous device or did you manually enter your IMEI to your phone number in your T-Mobile account? Is the sim card brand new or several years old? Not being nosey or questioning your ability, just making sure your device properly activated on T-Mobiles network for best network performance. I don't think T-Mobile is picky with verizon IMEIs as 99% of verizon phones are sim unlocked out of the box and T-mobile likes to advertise towards verizon customers.
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Also, did you just insert your sim card into the phone from your previous device or did you manually enter your IMEI to your phone number in your T-Mobile account? Is the sim card brand new or several years old? Not being nosey or questioning your ability, just making sure your device properly activated on T-Mobiles network for best network performance. I don't think T-Mobile is picky with verizon IMEIs as 99% of verizon phones are sim unlocked out of the box and T-mobile likes to advertise towards verizon customers.
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My T-Mobile service is actually through Tracfone. I activated it on a G5 H830 (TMO), and then moved over to a V20 H910 (AT&T). I did notice poorer reception on the V20 because I rarely locked into band 12. I always had excellent reception on the G5 and frequent band 12. I tried this SIM just now on a Canadian G6 H873 from Videotron, went into hidden menu *#546368#*873# -> Field test -> Modem settings -> LTE Band Selection -> Band 12. I instantly got Band 12 locked in, but went back to Automatic mode: (Field Test -> Network Mode -> Automatic). This band selection menu leaves you locked to that LTE band only, and you can't select multiple, so I went back and got Band 4 which is stronger in my house. If it were rooted, there's a hidden LTE menu that allows you to select multiple bands (through "tmo only" and iot menu, search LTEBand and BandSelection in shortcut master lite when rooted). Doing this on my VS996 -> US998 it falls back to 3G as it can't find Band 12 for some reason. I've tried wiping the modemst1 and modemst2 partitions to no avail. I'm now on the AS998 (ACG or C-Spire?) 20b KDZ. It should be identical to the LS998 (Sprint) modem and supports bands 2, 4, and 12. I kept TWRP recovery by not flashing the recovery in LGUP, INSTANTLY GO INTO FACTORY RESET (Power + Vol up) or else recovery will be wiped, flashed magisk 17.3, Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt, lg-rctd-disabler, erased modemst1/2, and booted up. The hidden menu in the AS998 has all bands greyed out in the hidden menu only accessible through root, and the LTE band selection menu reports FAILED on all bands, so it's locked to the stock bands of the AS998/LS998. I'll report later on my findings.
TWRP Terminal command to wipe modemst1 and modemst2:
Code:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/modemst1 bs=16384
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/modemst2 bs=16384
Link420able said:
I get the success message when clicking on band 13 in the hidden menu. I am using the latest stock US998 rom. Its given me the best reception and still runs fluid as can be.
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I'm confused. Do they want band 13 or band 12? They started talking about band 13, then started talking about T-mobile band 12.
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OP, can you confirm that you can use LTE band 13 on your H931 (AT&T) Frankenstein phone? I converted my VS996 to US998 10b, unlocked bootloader, updated to 20e (KDZ), and rooted with magisk 17.3. I can use T-Mobile VoLTE but can't connect to their LTE band 12. I've tried the US998 Hidden Menu hack by using T-Mobile's LTE band menu and selecting LTE bands 2, 4, 12, 66, and 71. When I leave only band 12 selected I only get 3G or 2G EDGE. Maybe T-Mobile doesn't like my phone's IMEI as it's from Verizon. On AT&T, I never got stable LTE because my old G4 was from T-Mobile, and it always dropped to 3G after a while. If hardware isn't the issue then it leads me to believe T-Mobile whitelists only their branded devices for band 12.
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Do you want band 12 or band 13?
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Do you want band 12 or band 13?
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I want band 12, I just found it amazing that OP has band 13 and CDMA on his H931 -> US998. Mainly because the H931 is GSM and shouldn't come with an ESN/pESN, just IMEI and MEID. And due to Verizon being picky about devices. I had an RS988 G5 and that didn't work well with them.
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I want band 12, I just found it amazing that OP has band 13 and CDMA on his H931 -> US998. Mainly because the H931 is GSM and shouldn't come with an ESN/pESN, just IMEI and MEID. And due to Verizon being picky about devices. I had an RS988 G5 and that didn't work well with them.[/QUOTE]
When you convert it with Frankenstein, it converts to have all the bands.
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When you convert it with Frankenstein, it converts to have all the bands.
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Not mine, I converted a VS996 -> US998 and don't get band 12 or 17. I the same SIM on a G6 from Canada (H873) and band 12 works on Tracfone via T-Mobile and on AT&T (prepaid).
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Not mine, I converted a VS996 -> US998 and don't get band 12 or 17. I tried this on a G6 from Canada and band 12 works on Tracfone via T-Mobile and on AT&T (prepaid).
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No one else has said this, in fact the opposite.
I'm not talking about T-mobile at all, as they have put specific requirements on their band 12 due toWifi calling, etc.
But many are using us998 on T-mobile, whether converted or original.
That doesn't prove you don't have band 12. Also, ATT no longer calls band 17 as 17. On all newer phones, it's band 12, as 17 is a subset of 12. If you look at the H931 specs it says "12" , not 17. Their 12 is fully interoperable with T-mobile band 12 and includes 17.
I'm debating between buying the LG V30s, G7, and S9+. I would prefer the LG ones because they support QC 3.0, but I travel internationally all over the place and need a phone with a ton of LTE band support (but I'm currently in the US).
I need 6GB of RAM, 530+ ppi, IP68/67, USB-C QC, and great cameras, so this is all I have to select from:
https://www.gsmarena.com/results.ph...mm=selected&sIPCerts=5,6&sOSes=2&idCardslot=1
The S9+ has 26 bands.
The LG V30s (US998R) only seems to have 11.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/A3ljK/lg-us998-v30-td-lte-lg-joan?c_id=676585
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30s-thinq-model-number-differences/
The LG G7 (G710ULM) is worse at 9.
https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-G710ULM-Unlocked-g7-thinq
I have a hard time believing that LG would create a different chip for all their different regional models of the same phone. The chip must support all the bands but a ton of them must get disabled in firmware. Is there any way to unlock them?
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I'm debating between buying the LG V30s, G7, and S9+. I would prefer the LG ones because they support QC 3.0, but I travel internationally all over the place and need a phone with a ton of LTE band support (but I'm currently in the US).
I need 6GB of RAM, 530+ ppi, IP68/67, USB-C QC, and great cameras, so this is all I have to select from:
https://www.gsmarena.com/results.ph...mm=selected&sIPCerts=5,6&sOSes=2&idCardslot=1
The S9+ has 26 bands.
The LG V30s (US998R) only seems to have 11.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/A3ljK/lg-us998-v30-td-lte-lg-joan?c_id=676585
https://www.techwalls.com/lg-v30s-thinq-model-number-differences/
The LG G7 (G710ULM) is worse at 9.
https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-G710ULM-Unlocked-g7-thinq
I have a hard time believing that LG would create a different chip for all their different regional models of the same phone. The chip must support all the bands but a ton of them must get disabled in firmware. Is there any way to unlock them?
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which specific bands are you looking for? The samsung exynos phones typically support a lot of bands, just not the us specific ones. Because of whatever contract samsung has with qualcom, their chipset doesn't support any of the sprint or verizon lte/cdma bands.
The us specific phones typically have the radios crippled and each rom supports bands for that specific carrier. the samsung s9+ snapdragon 845 (us version) has the same issue as the lg phones + they can't be rooted or bootloader unlocked.
the lg v35 unlocked supports a lot of bands, but again, no root or bootloader unlock
the oneplus 6t supports lots of bands and can be unlocked but its not a premium phone and is missing a lot of other features like sdcard, ip rating, qi charging, etc.
Alibaba0101 said:
which specific bands are you looking for? The samsung exynos phones typically support a lot of bands, just not the us specific ones. Because of whatever contract samsung has with qualcom, their chipset doesn't support any of the sprint or verizon lte/cdma bands.
The us specific phones typically have the radios crippled and each rom supports bands for that specific carrier. the samsung s9+ snapdragon 845 (us version) has the same issue as the lg phones + they can't be rooted or bootloader unlocked.
the lg v35 unlocked supports a lot of bands, but again, no root or bootloader unlock
the oneplus 6t supports lots of bands and can be unlocked but its not a premium phone and is missing a lot of other features like sdcard, ip rating, qi charging, etc.
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I'm not looking for any specific bands since I don't know where exactly I'll be traveling to. I just want as many bands as I can get just in case. On the USA side I just want TMobile support.
The US S9+ versions still seem to have a ton of band support, no? Their only issue is they can't be rooted, but is this a permanent problem or do all Samsung phones eventually get root?
If I wanted an LG G7 or V3x phone with 6GB and all that jazz I mentioned, do I have any options for one that had tons of bands and is unlockable? A European version perhaps?
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I'm not looking for any specific bands since I don't know where exactly I'll be traveling to. I just want as many bands as I can get just in case. On the USA side I just want TMobile support.
The US S9+ versions still seem to have a ton of band support, no? Their only issue is they can't be rooted, but is this a permanent problem or do all Samsung phones eventually get root?
If I wanted an LG G7 or V3x phone with 6GB and all that jazz I mentioned, do I have any options for one that had tons of bands and is unlockable? A European version perhaps?
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There is sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked which are two different things. Two phones closest to what you are describing would be the unlocked s9+ from b&h and the lg v35 unlocked. Both will support around 22 bands and will be sim unlocked. Currently neither phone can be bootloader unlocked.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1394703-REG/samsung_sm_g965uzkaxaa_samsung_galaxy_s9.html
GSM, GPRS, EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 66, 71 Bands
https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-V350ULM-Unlocked-v35-thinq
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz;
UMTS 850/900/1700/2100 MHz;
LTE Bands1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/14/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/38/39/40/41/66; International Roaming 1/3/7/20/38/39/40/41
according to tmobile the tmobile specific version of the galaxy s9+ only supports
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-37154
4G LTE
2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71, LTE-U/LAA 46
Roaming Bands
1, 3, 7, 8, 13, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 38, 39, 40, 41
If you want information about any of these phones your best bet is to go to that section of the forum and ask your questions there....
While most decent 2017/2018 phones already support B12 & B66, not a lot of non-TMO phones support B71 yet. If you want to keep your new phone until 2019+, the phone should support it. That means your choice would be limited to the ones in TMO B71 list
FWIW, LG V30 H932 (TMO): WCDMA B1/B2/B4/ B5; LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B46/B66/B71 LTE Roaming B1/B3/B7/B20/B38/B39/B40/B41
S9 SM-G960U1 (SIM unlocked US) LTE:*1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 66, 71
I travel a bit too but you'd get too many hits and misses with LTE if your destinations are still unknown.... I'd get the phone with best value proposition for daily TMOUS (IMO that's currently a used H932 in mint condition, easily found), and just deal with LTE abroad as the issue comes (get a local SIM, rent/buy a hotspot if needed, etc - you probably knew that prepaid data packs are normally much cheaper outside the US. I have a hotspot specifically for use in Asian countries I travel to).
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I'd get the phone with best value proposition for daily TMOUS (IMO that's currently a used H932 in mint condition, easily found), and just deal with LTE abroad as the issue comes (get a local SIM, rent/buy a hotspot if needed, etc - you probably knew that prepaid data packs are normally much cheaper outside the US. I have a hotspot specifically for use in Asian countries I travel to).
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Whereas for me on AT&T, the best value daily phone is the US998.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
Only T-mobile subscribers would use LTE band 71, and most T-mobile phones still don't have it.
Don't forget about HSPA... Last time I was in Brazil, where their main LTE bands 3 & 7, my phone at the time had those, as does the V30. But STILL most of the time I was on HSPA due to their telephony infrastructure in rural areas. Point is, having good selection of HSPA bands is still your best "international" fallback plan for phones that don't have 99 LTE bands.
Don't obsess over having every LTE band for every country. For proof of that, look at T-mobile. TONS of people on this forum have the US998 on T-mobile. Their phones work just fine.
Thanks. I really want 6GB of RAM though, and the V30 doesn't have it. The other LG phones with 6GB of RAM either don't seem to have many bands or have a locked bootloader or both.
I ended up buying the Samsung S9+ G965F/DS. It's got root, 6GB RAM, and all the other features I'm looking for except QC 3.0. It's kind of a shame because I've been a Samsung user for the last 10 years and was adamant I wasn't going to get another.... but here I am.
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Thanks. I really want 6GB of RAM though, and the V30 doesn't have it. The other LG phones with 6GB of RAM either don't seem to have many bands or have a locked bootloader or both.
I ended up buying the Samsung S9+ G965F/DS. It's got root, 6GB RAM, and all the other features I'm looking for except QC 3.0. It's kind of a shame because I've been a Samsung user for the last 10 years and was adamant I wasn't going to get another.... but here I am.
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Great phone
no us warranty
does not support any cdma carriers
does not support tmobile band 71
does not support at&t band 30
Alibaba0101 said:
Great phone
no us warranty
does not support any cdma carriers
does not support tmobile band 71
does not support at&t band 30
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Yeah, I'm in a bit of a tough spot.
I need 6GB because the only reason I'm upgrading from my current TMobile S5 is because 2GB just doesn't cut it for modern apps anymore and 4GB just isn't future-proof enough for me. My S5 doesn't have band 71 either but the day-to-day sluggishness of not having enough memory is FAR more of an issue than band support.
I *want* to get the unlocked SnapDragon S9+, but it's not rooted or bootloader unlocked yet and I don't know if it *ever* will. Even the S8+ still has problems with bootloader unlock and root, right? The only reason I'm still running the S5 is because the ability to unlock and install LineageOS saved it and allowed me to squeeze two more years out of it.
So can anyone say with 95%+ confidence that the unlocked USA SnapDragons will have BL unlock and root?
Ok, I'm now even less confident that the S9+ SnapDragons will get bootloader unlock and root.
Even looking back at the S7, LineageOS is only supported on the Exynos models and none of the SnapDragons:
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/herolte
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/hero2lte
Same for the S8s.
I'm guessing that this trend will only continue for the S9s.
Alibaba0101 said:
There is sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked which are two different things. Two phones closest to what you are describing would be the unlocked s9+ from b&h and the lg v35 unlocked. Both will support around 22 bands and will be sim unlocked. Currently neither phone can be bootloader unlocked.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1394703-REG/samsung_sm_g965uzkaxaa_samsung_galaxy_s9.html
GSM, GPRS, EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 66, 71 Bands
https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-V350ULM-Unlocked-v35-thinq
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz;
UMTS 850/900/1700/2100 MHz;
LTE Bands1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/14/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/38/39/40/41/66; International Roaming 1/3/7/20/38/39/40/41
according to tmobile the tmobile specific version of the galaxy s9+ only supports
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-37154
4G LTE
2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71, LTE-U/LAA 46
Roaming Bands
1, 3, 7, 8, 13, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 38, 39, 40, 41
If you want information about any of these phones your best bet is to go to that section of the forum and ask your questions there....
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The T mobile version sounds great to me because it would work great in Italy where I travel often. However I am planning to convert the H932 to us998 by flashing with LGUP for rooting. Does that mean I will loose the extra bands of H932 and have US998 bands instead?
cococchio said:
However I am planning to convert the H932 to us998 by flashing with LGUP for rooting. Does that mean I will loose the extra bands of H932 and have US998 bands instead?
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1) You will brick your phone. T-mobile H932 has different RSA encryption than the other North American V30 variants.
This is why H932 can't use WTF method to install TWRP and root. It cannot be Frankenstein'ed to US998 for necessary fastboot flash commands.
2) Converting (Frankenstein) any North America V30 to another (not possible with T-mobile H932) makes it THAT phone, including all bands. After bootloader unlock and root, Verizon and Sprint users will often flash their VS996 or LS998 modems back.
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1) You will brick your phone. T-mobile H932 has different RSA encryption than the other North American V30 variants.
2) Converting (Frankenstein) any North America V30 to another (not possible with T-mobile H932) makes it THAT phone, including all bands. After bootloader unlock and root, Verizon and Sprint users will often flash their VS996 or LS998 modems back.
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I was planning to use this https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-h932-lafploit-1-5-to-v20a-t3842550
Anyway US998 actually has LTE bands 3 and 20 even though they are not originally included in H931. If that's true (doesn't require hardware modification?!) I will buy H931 ATT.
Thanks for your help!
cococchio said:
However I am planning to convert the (T-mobile) H932 to us998 by flashing with LGUP for rooting. Does that mean I will loose the extra bands of (T-mobile) H932 and have US998 bands instead?
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1) You will brick your phone. T-mobile H932 has different RSA encryption than the other North American V30 variants.
This is why H932 can't use WTF method to install TWRP and root. It cannot be Frankenstein'ed to US998 for necessary fastboot flash commands.
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I was planning to use this [ROOT] H932 - lafploit 1.5
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That's NOT what you said. You said you were planning on converting T-mobile H932 to US998. That Root LAF method for T-mobile H932 by @runningnak3d has nothing to do with WFT method -- which for some V30 (particularly North American variants) mean at least temporarily converting to another model (like US998).
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cococchio said:
Anyway US998 actually has LTE bands 3 and 20 even though they are not originally included in H931. If that's true (doesn't require hardware modification?!) I will buy H931 ATT.
Thanks for your help!
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I think you are somehwat confused. AT&T H931 has always had LTE bands 3 & 20. Note both links below are to LG.com website and those specs have been there since DAY1.
https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H931-Black-lg-v30
H931 (AT&T)
GSM/EDGE (2G) Bands: 850/900/1800/1900
HSPA/UMTS Bands: 850/1700/1900/2100
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/20/29/30/38/39/40/41/66
LTE bands 3 and 20 have also always been in the US998 specs:
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
Why not just buy US998 to begin with? Or buy cheaper variant like LS998 and convert to US998. I'm not understanding your logic. With US998 you get LTE bands 3 & 20, have CARRIER UNLOCKED, have fastboot flash commands so you can also bootloader unlock and root if you wish.
With H931, you are carrier locked to AT&T. Yes, you can get that unlocked -- but then you have no access to firmware updates as AT&T only gives updates via OTA to AT&T customers. This is why everybody and their brother CONVERT H931 to US998. To carrier unlock, get fastboot flash commands, AND get easy updates.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
wow, thanks you gave me a great overview of the situation. On Amazon refurbished the ATT version was actually the cheapest.
fuzzybabybunny said:
Ok, I'm now even less confident that the S9+ SnapDragons will get bootloader unlock and root.
Even looking back at the S7, LineageOS is only supported on the Exynos models and none of the SnapDragons:
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/herolte
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/hero2lte
Same for the S8s.
I'm guessing that this trend will only continue for the S9s.
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The G965F/DS is not snapdragon. The only samsung snapdrag phones that are unlocked are the hk and cn versions which again have crippled radios.
The best snapdragon 845 with unlocked bootloader and root would be the one plus 6 and thew newly released one plus 6t.
The lg v30s does have 6gb of ram and most likely can be unlocked using wtf method. But the bands will be more limited and its snapdragon 835.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1400755-REG/lg_lgus998r_a8usut_v30s_thinq_128gb_smartphone.html?ap=y&gclid=CjwKCAjwo_HdBRBjEiwAiPPXpNZbo9TR8rFHkeLTDCXn2QuF3QkpbgKfN07VYKJZ8SbbLtGC--4zcRoC2yIQAvD_BwE&smp=y
Did LG really produce all these V30 and + variants will different hardware (radios), or just cripple them through firmware? Would be great to be able to unlock the phone's capability with a firmware flash.
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wow, thanks you gave me a great overview of the situation. On Amazon refurbished the ATT version was actually the cheapest.
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On eBay refurbished "mint' US998 V30+ (probably converted LS998 V30+) is $295
Well I usually trust Amazon refurbished more but I ended up doing what you suggested . Cancelled Amazon and got V30.+ for $295 from ebay. Thanks!
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different hardware (radios), or just cripple them through firmware?
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Firmware - software-defined radio.