I really like the way my OneMax w/verizon is and am not really interested in updating. The automatic firmware downloads is eating up my data daily. I just accepted to install it so it would stop, but it won't install due to error (it's a rooted device). I have S-Off on the phone right now and used the SuperSu unroot feature to try and let the update do it's thing just so it would stop downloading. Now, the root checker apps say I'm not rooted (but i think i still am). I tried the virtuous manual stock update but it gives me a installation aborted message while in recovery mode. Any help would be appreciated!
I think you need to have stock recovery & stock rom installed to accept the ota.
jerrycycle said:
I think you need to have stock recovery & stock rom installed to accept the ota.
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so i have to fully unroot, update my phone then root again?
FrankieTheSqueeler said:
so i have to fully unroot, update my phone then root again?
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Yes, if you want the update you will.
one last question, my device won't pop up on ABD devices on my PC anymore. Am I still rooted?
FrankieTheSqueeler said:
one last question, my device won't pop up on ABD devices on my PC anymore. Am I still rooted?
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you only need to have stock recovery installed AND 100% stock system files. no system mods whatsoever.
assuming you enabled USB debugging under the developer options on the phone....you may need to update your version of adb/fastboot.
The root question....are you s off? If so that question is irrelevant as you only need to flash a custom recovery and flash the latest su zip from there to root any ROM...even the stock ota.
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dottat said:
you only need to have stock recovery installed AND 100% stock system files. no system mods whatsoever.
assuming you enabled USB debugging under the developer options on the phone....you may need to update your version of adb/fastboot.
The root question....are you s off? If so that question is irrelevant as you only need to flash a custom recovery and flash the latest su zip from there to root any ROM...even the stock ota.
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Thanks for the reply!
Yeah I have S-off on the phone. I will update the ADB version and retry. I don't know why I thought the su would be able to do a one-click unroot. All it ended up doing was just confusing me. I'm new to rooting and flashing, and it's fun figuring these things out. You guys are really helpful around here. I'll look for a tutorial on how to flash a custom recovery.
If I am rooted and have TWRP do I need to be concerned about OTA updates? If so what should I do?
budven said:
If I am rooted and have TWRP do I need to be concerned about OTA updates? If so what should I do?
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I uninstalled the "system updates" file from my phone. It's a blue android icon & 3.4mb in size. Another forum somewhere discussed this and I believe that should work. I used an app called system app remover(pro) - it has a recycle bin and holds apps in there for you in case you need/want to re-install them later. Any root app delete should work just fine though.
budven said:
If I am rooted and have TWRP do I need to be concerned about OTA updates? If so what should I do?
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You can freeze the update app, but an OTA won't work anyway with a custom recovery.
Hi There,
I'm running a rooted version of KitKat 4.4.4 on my Z2 (23.0.1.A.0.167) and I was just wondering about the process of upgrading to a rooted version of Lollipop. Can I just upgrade using the standard method (from the settings menu) and retain root access? Or will I have to flash an entirely new Lollipop ROM onto the device and then root that separately?
I'm in no rush for Lollipop so I'm happy to wait for the official upgrade, but if it won't be possible or will mess up my device then I'd rather just do whatever it takes to get it flashed.
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Hi There,
I'm running a rooted version of KitKat 4.4.4 on my Z2 (23.0.1.A.0.167) and I was just wondering about the process of upgrading to a rooted version of Lollipop. Can I just upgrade using the standard method (from the settings menu) and retain root access? Or will I have to flash an entirely new Lollipop ROM onto the device and then root that separately?
I'm in no rush for Lollipop so I'm happy to wait for the official upgrade, but if it won't be possible or will mess up my device then I'd rather just do whatever it takes to get it flashed.
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I guess your bootloader is still intact, if so you're good to go. You will will only lose root when you update to lollipop through OTA.
On the other hand, if you've unlocked your bootloader and probably have a custom kernel, then I'm afraid ota will not work.
Hope this helps.
BottleGreen said:
Hi There,
... and I was just wondering about the process of upgrading to a rooted version of Lollipop.
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sublinker said:
I guess your bootloader is still intact, if so you're good to go. You will will only lose root when you update to lollipop through OTA.
On the other hand, if you've unlocked your bootloader and probably have a custom kernel, then I'm afraid ota will not work.
Hope this helps.
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If the desired outcome is root on lollipop, don't do ota.
Install recovery (if you don't have one) and flash a rooted lollipop zip through recovery.
@o0 Matt 0o, you've made your point but I guess quoting me wasn't necessary.
Thanks for the replies, a couple of questions still though:
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If the desired outcome is root on lollipop, don't do ota.
Install recovery (if you don't have one) and flash a rooted lollipop zip through recovery.
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I think I have recovery, though I can't remember to be honest. I followed a guide here when I rooted my Z2.
If I flash a rooted L zip does this mean I'll lose all my apps/data? I remember that I did when I rooted 4.4.4 but the process was such a headache that I can't remember which parts required wiping everything from my phone.
Also, is there a ROM version you'd recommend? Is the current one stable or should I wait a little while longer for a better one?
Google recovery and Xperia to see videos of how to get into recovery to find out if you have it.
You don't 'need' to wipe, but it's always advised. Before I flash I do a nandroid backup and wipe and recovery specific app data with nandroid manager.
Have a look at the dev section, there is a rooted stock lollipop room there. lollipop is stable and awesome.
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Google recovery and Xperia to see videos of how to get into recovery to find out if you have it.
You don't 'need' to wipe, but it's always advised. Before I flash I do a nandroid backup and wipe and recovery specific app data with nandroid manager.
Have a look at the dev section, there is a rooted stock lollipop room there. lollipop is stable and awesome.
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Is it worth waiting for a Lollipop 5.1 ROM or would this ROM update to 5.1 without needing to be flashed? http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/stock-d6503-23-1-0-690-bal-rooted-t3057150/ (I presume this is the ROM you were talking about?)
Thanks, turns out I do have recovery. I followed this guide all the way through: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/how-to-root-23-0-1-0-167-fw-sony-xperia-t2928591/
So seeing as I have CWM recovery on there. Does this mean I can just use flashtool to put the lollipop ROM onto CWM Recovery and then do 'install from zip' and all should be good?
What would happen if I flashed without wiping the data? I'm more inclined to wipe too, but I wondered if it's possible to do it without wiping.
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Is it worth waiting for a Lollipop 5.1 ROM or would this ROM update to 5.1 without needing to be flashed? http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/stock-d6503-23-1-0-690-bal-rooted-t3057150/ (I presume this is the ROM you were talking about?).
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Yea that's what I was referring to. Once 5.1 comes out you'll need to do the same thing to keep root so it's up to you if you do it once or twice.
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Thanks, turns out I do have recovery. I followed this guide all the way through: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/how-to-root-23-0-1-0-167-fw-sony-xperia-t2928591/
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Good
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So seeing as I have CWM recovery on there. Does this mean I can just use flashtool to put the lollipop ROM onto CWM Recovery and then do 'install from zip' and all should be good?
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No. No flashtool needed just get the zip into the phone (either download it on the phone or use a usb cable to copy it over) then go to install zip.
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What would happen if I flashed without wiping the data? I'm more inclined to wipe too, but I wondered if it's possible to do it without wiping.
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What would happen depends on what you've done:
Best case nothing happens
Medium case apps misbehave
Worst case bootloop
It is possible and give it a go. Make sure you do a backup first and copy the backup to your computer just in case. If bad things happen, recovery the backup and try again another way.
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Yea that's what I was referring to. Once 5.1 comes out you'll need to do the same thing to keep root so it's up to you if you do it once or twice.
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No. No flashtool needed just get the zip into the phone (either download it on the phone or use a usb cable to copy it over) then go to install zip.
What would happen depends on what you've done:
Best case nothing happens
Medium case apps misbehave
Worst case bootloop
It is possible and give it a go. Make sure you do a backup first and copy the backup to your computer just in case. If bad things happen, recovery the backup and try again another way.
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Okay perfect, thanks for that. One last question though, in that thread with the Lollipop ROM someone mentioned that you could lose your recovery if you install it (I guess because of a bug or something). Will this affect me if I want to install 5.1 later on?
Not really. You'll just need to get back to a ROM with recovery for locked bootloader or wait until they get recovery working on locked bootloader on 5.0
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Not really. You'll just need to get back to a ROM with recovery for locked bootloader or wait until they get recovery working on locked bootloader on 5.0
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Okay, so my bootloader has been unlocked. Does that mean I won't be affected at all?
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Okay, so my bootloader has been unlocked. Does that mean I won't be affected at all?
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Is that first sentence a statement or a question?
Bootloader unlocked means freedom. Life is a lot easier, just flash a kernel with recovery and upgrade
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Is that first sentence a statement or a question?
Bootloader unlocked means freedom. Life is a lot easier, just flash a kernel with recovery and upgrade
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Yes my bootloader is unlocked, I used the Sony method. I didn't think I could flash a rooted ROM without it to be honest.
Hmm, I think I'm confusing recovery with Bootloader though here. I thought Recovery was part of the bootloader unlocking process and was separate from the ROM. Kind of like a small management interface to flash new ROMs and manage the device from the boot partition.
Does anyone have an answer to the above? I'm just trying to make sense of the process here.
What do you want to know? What the bootloader is?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Bootloader
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What do you want to know? What the bootloader is?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Bootloader
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I'd really like to know what 'recovery' is exactly and how it differs from either a ROM or a bootloader. I understand the Xperia Z2 stock rooted Lollipop ROM has no recovery, so I want to know what exactly that means and what the implications are in the event I choose to upgrade to 5.1 in the future.
Is this even possible if my device is rooted and running custom kernel?
Thank you!
Short Answer ----- No!
Long answer, you need to be completely stock, with an untouched system partition, stock recovery and boot images to accept OTA.
Even with systemless root, if something has modified the system OTA's will fail.
corkiejp said:
Short Answer ----- No!
Long answer, you need to be completely stock, with an untouched system partition, stock recovery and boot images to accept OTA.
Even with systemless root, if something has modified the system OTA's will fail.
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Thanks. I appreciate quick response.
dirtblade said:
Is this even possible if my device is rooted and running custom kernel?
Thank you!
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if you're bootloader is unlocked you can manually flash the updated images via fastboot
Flashfire App is an option.
If your system partition is completely stock, untouched by root file manager/twrp and you have systemless root.
Chainfire Flashfire app should be able to apply the OTA even with a modified kernel, as it restores the stock boot and recovery images.
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Release notes: https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/FjWwBm9vGyj
Changelogs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59962696&postcount=8
Enjoy, and remember to re-report any issues, even if previously reported for an older version.
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Chainfire said:
v0.27 released - https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/Q7YYVPwv8Fx
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I do believe that I have gained root through termux a backwards way. Is it turns out to be true then I'm definitely going to need some help on reacquiring my file system. I actually use termux to proot a root prmsn then installed magisk and flashed the recovery that way. The recovery definitely uploaded and overwrote what was on the directory. The only thing is now that I have read access I don't actually have the access with the app so I just need to clear that up
So did it work out
so you can't patch boot with existing kdz?
Any updates?
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Any updates?
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im sure he dint get root
What's the best rooting software? I mean the easiest to understand?