So is honor 5X running CM13 or any other "lightweight" ROM significantly faster?
I used Nexus 5 for 2,5 years. What a great phone it was.
My usage consists of:
a) endomondo,
b) relay for reddit,
c) browsing teh internet,
No gaming whatsoever.
My N5's power button died (RIP) so I decided to give Honor 5X a shot, since I had opportunity to get it really cheap.
I love the feeling of the phone, the screen and battery life and fingerprint sensor are amazing - even the camera which is mediocre at best by today's standards surpasses the one on my good old N5.
BUT it is so much slower than N5 that it starts to really grind my gears.
When an app is opened, it works just fine - however the speed of changing apps is terrible, EMUI is way too aggressive with RAM management aswell. Waiting 5s for hangouts to load gets annoying really fast.
I currently use Nova Prime with stock OS and other than the speed itself I have no complaints, I really like the phone.
So, my question is: did you notice significant speed increase after flashing CM/alike ROM? Is it worth the hassle for someone who did not do it before?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, I believe that is a noticeable performance increase and is well worth trying out - just make sure you make a full Nandroid backup in case anything goes wrong and then you're safe to do as you please. I don't think it's too much hassle. It's pretty fast for this kind of hardware at this price point, But of course, this isn't a flagship phone like a Nexus so don't expect speeds of that caliber. Overall CM 13 feels buttery smooth to me. I have no issues with it whatsoever. Some people may have issues with XPosed, but so far I have none- your mileage may vary.
The only thing you might miss is the current lack of Fingerprint support - the Devs are aware of this and are working hard at this and are always being harassed about it, haha. Real work on that sensor won't be until the Official Marshmallow release, and it's not even a guarantee since the devs work on this ROM in their spare time. I still give props to crpalmer for providing us with such a nice CM13 for the Honor 5X.
Yes. Former Nexus 5 user as well and I loved that phone to death. CM13 performance on the Honor 5X is comparable to Marshmallow on N5. Very occasional minor hitches and glitches, and the rare crash and reboot, but overall buttery smooth just like the N5 and I am very happy with it. Leaps and bounds better than EMUI.
Biggest improvement is multitasking in my opinion. The EMUI Task switcher is glitchy and clunky and as soon as you start flying back and forth between apps on the recent screen in CM13 it will hit you how slow and limiting EMUI has been.
yes, I am running parallel shifts on SlimROM by @jsbeyond and the default EMUI (rooted and debloated), and the difference is quite telling! It almost seems like a competent athlete speeding away to the racing line while running Slim, while on EMUI it runs like an injured confused directionless bum. Only thing I miss from EMUI is the camera app
Like @mtmv2 said, multi tasking and fluidity is where you will feel most of the difference. I personally felt that the audio output (speakers) on Slim is also way less muffled than in EMUI. I use V4A as well, on both, so I am sure of the difference in audio with the same V4A profiles running in both environments. Battery on Slim is more controllable for drain, privacy protection, boot apps control etc is way better. Best of all is the battery saver, that stops the auto-sync only and helps battery last longer unlike in the EMUI which turns the phone into a 1990s sort of device with call and paging functions the moment you pick "battery saving mode"! Least said the better, but Slim restores all the android dignity of icons and animations compared to the toyish, immature, wannabe UI of the OEM.
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I'm not really into tweaking and messing with my phone so I just wondered If the Oneplus X stock experience is a good one or not. I heard some worrying issues like a weak version of the 801 proccesor, games lagging in european version(I live in Israel so its probably the version I'm getting) and camera lags. If someone can clarify on those issues a bit more and tell me if the phone is worth getting without rooting, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks.
I love the Oxygen OS and am running the phone completely stock but most of the users here like the CM, though it's very subjective. I like minimum tweaks and simple and fast UI. Oxygen OS is perfect for me. Now for the bugs that the phone suffers is mostly software related and will be fixed in a couple of updates. And no need to worry about the "weak" 801, it still is the "801" and the performance is fast and smooth and will be even better with future updates. Battery life for a 2525mah is damn good. It gets me through the day with 20-25% still left in the tank. Camera is not the greatest but decent enough to get the job done. Though the video recording if really crap even my old and ageing Xperia SP can do much better than this. But overall i love it and am enjoying using it for almost a month now. Hope this helps
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I love the Oxygen OS and am running the phone completely stock but most of the users here like the CM, though it's very subjective. I like minimum tweaks and simple and fast UI. Oxygen OS is perfect for me. Now for the bugs that the phone suffers is mostly software related and will be fixed in a couple of updates. And no need to worry about the "weak" 801, it still is the "801" and the performance is fast and smooth and will be even better with future updates. Battery life for a 2525mah is damn good. It gets me through the day with 20-25% still left in the tank. Camera is not the greatest but decent enough to get the job done. Though the video recording if really crap even my old and ageing Xperia SP can do much better than this. But overall i love it and am enjoying using it for almost a month now. Hope this helps
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Definitely helped Thanks!
I would say that the oneplus x is worth getting especially if you don't want to root your phone!
I usually root and fiddle around a lot with my phones, but with the oneplus x it took almost 1 month until I couldn't resist and just had to root it. The phone is basically bloatfree and fast out of the box.
I had to root in order to improve performance. In stock the phone lags, especially in games.
I only rooted to flash the kernel and for some other stuff like greenify and adaway, but Oxygen OS isn't as bad as some would say it is, bugs here and there but its clean enough.
OnePlux x 'S CPU is 8974AA,This is a waste of CPU power
I usually root my device on day one of my purchase. I have always used my devices with rooting / jailbreak and i find it much comfortable rather than a stock. With root you can throw out the bloatware and customize the phone as you need. So i prefer rooted phone always.
But with OP , stock ROM seems to be packing all the features needed without bloatware. So if you can live with popup adds in apps and chrome, OPX will provide you a great experience. And with OPX price, it is always worth getting it :good:
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OnePlux x 'S CPU is 8974AA,This is a waste of CPU power
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I've tried all previews and everytime I had to go back to M, the rom is slow and my N9 is very hot !
I thought it was the previews, but now I'm on final, and I have the same behavior.
Chrome is also verry verry slow and I have to kill if I wan't to use my tablet for something else.
Do you have this behavior on your tablets ?
No, in my case Android 7 is considerably faster than Android 5 and 6.
I get the same problems, plus some apps just decide to crash, last one to crash was Geekbench 3.
Also games are really laggy.
I flash the factory images with fastboot (erasing/formating everything) and my N9 is better now, but I'm still not convice that Nougat is ready for release.
Using chrome still makes the tablet very hot (and laggy).
It may be a chrome issue.
Funny enough i only really started to notice how slow the N9 actually is after replacing my phone with a OnePlus 3.
(yeah yeah it has a snapdragon 820 and is like 50x faster than the N9 regardless)
Overal though I've been noticing a massive degradation in my tablet's performance. Just 2 tabs in chrome is enough to start lagging it out. (Although I have the say the final Android 7 version seems considerably faster then the last Preview 5)
I'm just going to look look for a new tablet now. Because I doubt the problem is just chrome related. There just aren't many clean stock android tablets which is a real shame. But I am never buying a tablet with only 2gb RAM or a dual core again ever in my life.
Mine is pretty poor, im yet to use an android tab thats any good, can't really say its any worse since nougat but its no better either, way way slower than my phone and always has been, really dissapointed to be honest...
For me its like the Ram or processor just can't cope with even the most simple of tasks, mine's stock really considering rooting it and trying a lightweight rom to see if it improves it...
Same here... over time this device starts to get slow, especially when bringing up pages via google now or with Chrome.
Luckily, for me at least, clearing the cache resolves the slowness every time.
Yes, the Nexus 9 is slow on Nougat. Not as slow as the initial Lollipop release but still. The Nexus 9 performance seems totally inconsistent. At times it is blazing fast for an instant and then it starts stuttering. The slowdowns consistently occur when there are filesystem operations, like upgrading apps in the background.
Probaly because of nvidia soc, my nexus 5 is much faster when browsing etc. My nexus 7 was slow too even though its performance was great in benchmarks for its time
Yes. I like the split screen, often on the web with Evernote open. But, it's so slow.
Time for a custom rom?
Performance is much poorer on Nougat. Also seeing crashed. And when idle for a few hours, Wifi disconnects and doesn't reconnect when woke up.
Yes horrible on N, it gets hot and crashes! I don't love Tegra either. I think they are bad chips.
I have owned RN3P for two months now, and I'm pretty satisfied with it, except from the camera ofcourse. Just now, I saw a ad on olx for Nexus 5x for pretty reasonable price and now I'm confused should I sell my RN3P and get the nexus device. I know that Nexus 5x has SD808 and Adreno 418, which are definitely inferior to RN3P's config. So, on paper, RN3P blows Nexus 5x out of the water. But, on the other side, Nexus devices PERFORM, and also the nexus 5x sports a much much better camera than RN3P. I don't click much photos, but anyone would like to have a good camera phone. I don't care about battery too much and 2700mah on nexus 5x will be enough for me. And, I do use my phone for bit of gaming (MC4 :-B).
So, if someone has both the devices or just want to give a advice. Please comment..!!
One doesn't appreciate the battery until one jumps to the nexus side......
Seriosuly let aside bells and whistles that our RN3's provides, the battery experience simply cannot be replaced. I used to own the nexus 5x and trust me it's battery sucks, 3-4 hours of SOT. After using RN3 I simply cannot go back to nexus just because of the battery.
Yes if you need a device to tinker with then nexus is an awesome phone but for daily usage I would recommend RN3
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One doesn't appreciate the battery until one jumps to the nexus side......
Seriosuly let aside bells and whistles that our RN3's provides, the battery experience simply cannot be replaced. I used to own the nexus 5x and trust me it's battery sucks, 3-4 hours of SOT. After using RN3 I simply cannot back to nexus just because of the battery.
Yes if you need a device to tinker with then nexus is an awesome phone but for daily usage I would recommend RN3
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What about the difference in performance and camera..?
You've already answered your own question. But in my words:
-If you want to have a nice camera on your phone, with a flagship branding, and clean Stock Android experience, get the Nexus 5x.
-If you need a Big 5.5" screen, with heavy gaming & good battery, and if you can bear MIUI, then keep the RN3 Pro.
Just keep these points in mind. Forget about normal performance. Both phones will perform on par, when on normal usage, because 5x being on stock Android will feel much snappier and light-weight, as compared to MIUI powered RN3 Pro, even if RN3 Pro has more powerful processor. (See I'm talking about normal usage, not heavy such as games etc.), Also, Big battery is a big advantage of RN3 Pro, over 5x. Keep it in mind as well.
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What about the difference in performance and camera..?
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Camera is much much better than RN3 but also SD 650 beats 808 on performance. So you decide yourself, that you want better community support and faster updates or overall better vfm device.
AtomR said:
You've already answered your own question. But in my words:
-If you want to have a nice camera on your phone, with a flagship branding, and clean Stock Android experience, get the Nexus 5x.
-If you need a Big 5.5" screen, with heavy gaming & good battery, and if you can bear MIUI, then keep the RN3 Pro.
Just keep these points in mind. Forget about normal performance. Both phones will perform on par, when on normal usage, because 5x being on stock Android will feel much snappier and light-weight, as compared to MIUI powered RN3 Pro, even if RN3 Pro has more powerful processor. (See I'm talking about normal usage, not heavy such as games etc.)
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Yeah, I got that, even RN3 on CM or any other custom ROMs is "much snappier", significantly. But, in gaming performance, MIUI literally performs better.
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Yeah, I got that, even RN3 on CM or any other custom ROMs is "much snappier", significantly. But, in gaming performance, MIUI literally performs better.
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Well, games performs good in MIUI 'cause it's the default ROM shipped on the phone. You know, some (read: most) custom ROMs' performance degrades for obvious reasons. If Xiaomi has shipped RN3 with AOSP, then games would perform as good as they're currently on MIUI. Seriously, I can't understand, why Chinese companies make Android skins with iOS-y looks. It doesn't even come close to iOS this way. lol.
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Well, games performs good in MIUI 'cause it's the default ROM shipped on the phone. You know, some (read: most) custom ROMs' performance degrades for obvious reasons. If Xiaomi has shipped RN3 with AOSP, then games would perform as good as they're currently on MIUI. Seriously, I can't understand, why Chinese companies make Android skins with iOS-y looks. It doesn't even come close to iOS this way. lol.
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Well, MIUI skin is not that bad. I mean, you could get used to it. The bad part is the bloatwares that come along with it.
And, I don't really understand how's this possible but even after heavy customization, the gaming performance is better in other non-xiaomi devices too. Earlier I had Lenovo A6k+, and not only the Antutu scores went up to 38k from 22k, but also the gaming became extremely smooth, after flashing MIUI ROM.
P.S. : I've dropped my plan getting Nexus 5x.
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Well, MIUI skin is not that bad. I mean, you could get used to it. The bad part is the bloatwares that come along with it.
And, I don't really understand how's this possible but even after heavy customization, the gaming performance is better in other non-xiaomi devices too. Earlier I had Lenovo A6k+, and not only the Antutu scores went up to 38k from 22k, but also the gaming became extremely smooth, after flashing MIUI ROM.
P.S. : I've dropped my plan getting Nexus 5x.
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Then there must be something special in MIUI, if it can increase that much of AnTuTu score.
BTW, Nice to see, you made the decision.
Just wanna say in the beginning, this is nothing more than a gut feeling.
I have been using many custom roms by different developers running different android versions.
Quite a few months ago, I switched to miui because I was having some issues with than current pie roms, and I wanted a stable system. And I stuck with it till now because I am at home and limited internet. It was noticably slow and janky from the start but I kept using it, because it was stable.
Finally, my patience gave out, and I installed Havoc 3.3 (Android Q by sairam60 ), and it is insanely smooth compared to what I got used to.
Now, let me explain further. My device performs better, charges faster, and pubg performace went from unplayable to bearable. Other thing I noticed, that the device gets somewhat warm and battery drains faster, which is didn't happen on miui. This led me to believe that miui might be throttling the SoC and charging (for some reason).
Or maybe miui is just hopelessly bloated? Or the rom has the soc overclocked or something?
What do you guys think?
That's been the case for a while now and not just limited to land. Its an oft repeated complaint from MIUI users that performance becomes worse with newer updates just after the 1 year mark. Dunno if its deliberate or just plain negligence.
Anyways I would highly recommend Fork LOS 17.1 by Sairam. Its perhaps the most fluid ROM ever for land. Its based on 4.9 kernel so a few quirks can be expected considering it's only a few builds old. Personally I didn't encounter any issue other than RAM usage was a tad high for 2GB variant esp. since LOS is so lightweight usually. Customization is minimal but a few useful extras have been added. Battery backup was pretty good and on par with Havoc 2.9. To be fair the battery in my device is degraded so most ROMs give similar bb.
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Just wanna say in the beginning, this is nothing more than a gut feeling.
I have been using many custom roms by different developers running different android versions.
Quite a few months ago, I switched to miui because I was having some issues with than current pie roms, and I wanted a stable system. And I stuck with it till now because I am at home and limited internet. It was noticably slow and janky from the start but I kept using it, because it was stable.
Finally, my patience gave out, and I installed Havoc 3.3 (Android Q by sairam60 ), and it is insanely smooth compared to what I got used to.
Now, let me explain further. My device performs better, charges faster, and pubg performace went from unplayable to bearable. Other thing I noticed, that the device gets somewhat warm and battery drains faster, which is didn't happen on miui. This led me to believe that miui might be throttling the SoC and charging (for some reason).
Or maybe miui is just hopelessly bloated? Or the rom has the soc overclocked or something?
What do you guys think?
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You did the right thing for leaving memeui on this phone,
+ 1 for what the dude above said, fork los 17.1 4.9 sairam or any roms based on it have better performance for pubg/codm gaming, excellent battery life too
I recently went from a oneplus 5 to the nord 200 when I switched to t-mobile because of the free promotion. Before I got it I did a little bit of research on the processor and storage speed and didn't expect much of a difference in performance because the snapdragon 480 seems to be fairly powerful and the nord has the same UFS 2.1 storage as my old phone.
I was pretty disappointed to find in my use the phone about 1/2 the time the phone was pretty sluggish in the general user experience and app launch times were significantly longer. May be placebo, but I disabled digital wellbeing, and all the tmobile bloatware and it may have helped a little. I remember reading oneplus heavily throttled some of their phones in recent history. I may switch back to my old phone.
I know the device is relatively new, do you guys think it will get better with software updates or is this just how it is?
I found turning on "Mobile data always active" in the developer options massively improved performance in my apps (at least where online load times and download speeds in-game were concerned)
Did you just get your phone recently? After setting up this phone for the first time, I also noticed the device was extremely slow, with all the app and software updates happening in the background. After all the updates were installed, I turned the phone off for about a day, and performance went to normal. It's not as fast as a flagship and there are minor hiccups here and there, but that's about what I expected from a 400 series SoC.
My original report was the day after I set everything up, I disabled the permissions for the launcher which did improve the responsiveness of the launcher, but application performance and launch times are still slow compared to my old device and not what I would expect from a phone of this spec.
I'm pretty confident this phone is a victim of oneplus' recently reported throttling for battery life. I was curious and compared geekbench scores (which aren't throttled under oneplus' list) and both the nord and my oneplus 5 got fairly similar scores for both cpu and compute. I tried out a browser benchmark motionmark which benches graphics performance. The nord got a 25 and the oneplus 5 got a 189... I ran the test again to make sure but got similar results.
That graphics should be coming from gpu and not cpu though....
I tested cpu and compute on geekbench, compute is a measure of gpu performance. The nord scored a little higher than the 5 in that.
I would assume oneplus' throttling would effect cpu and gpu but even if not, my oneplus 5 scoring almost 8x as high does not seem anywhere near normal
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I recently went from a oneplus 5 to the nord 200 when I switched to t-mobile because of the free promotion. Before I got it I did a little bit of research on the processor and storage speed and didn't expect much of a difference in performance because the snapdragon 480 seems to be fairly powerful and the nord has the same UFS 2.1 storage as my old phone.
I was pretty disappointed to find in my use the phone about 1/2 the time the phone was pretty sluggish in the general user experience and app launch times were significantly longer. May be placebo, but I disabled digital wellbeing, and all the tmobile bloatware and it may have helped a little. I remember reading oneplus heavily throttled some of their phones in recent history. I may switch back to my old phone.
I know the device is relatively new, do you guys think it will get better with software updates or is this just how it is?
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Same experience here, i picked up this phone expecting at least a decent experience but still get bad slow not usable for everyday tasks sometimes.
Im not expecting a flagship performance of course but this is far from decent in my experience.
I hope android 12 will solve many performance issues. Or custom fw
I'm about to throw away this phone into trash. Did not expect so weak dev community activity. The laggy interface is almost unusable if you constantly swap between apps and find them unloaded from RAM. All my text or uploaded content just disappear. It is very frustrating experience. I never had this behaviour with my 2/32 gb xiaomi.
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I'm about to throw away this phone into trash. The laggy interface is almost unusable if you constantly swap between apps and find them unloaded from RAM. All my text or uploaded content just disappear. It is very frustrating experience. I never had this behaviour with my 2/32 gb xiaomi.
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If you're really at your wit's end, have you considered installing a GSI? I've tried Phh's AOSP w/ gapps, and once you register your device with Google, it works flawlessly (except safetynet/drm) and is a million times faster than stock. Or I'd be more than happy to take your device off your hands.
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Did not expect so weak dev community activity.
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You know, custom ROMs don't just appear out of thin air. Someone has to take the time to bring up a device and make it stable, and it's not an easy task. I would say to be patient and just accept the fact that there's no guarantee that this device will get custom ROMs.
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If you're really at your wit's end, have you considered installing a GSI? I've tried Phh's AOSP w/ gapps, and once you register your device with Google, it works flawlessly (except safetynet/drm) and is a million times faster than stock. Or I'd be more than happy to take your device off your hands.
You know, custom ROMs don't just appear out of thin air. Someone has to take the time to bring up a device and make it stable, and it's not an easy task. I would say to be patient and just accept the fact that there's no guarantee that this device will get custom ROMs.
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Any disadvantages with gsi besides safety net drm? Want to try gsi but this is new to me
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Any disadvantages with gsi besides safety net drm? Want to try gsi but this is new to me
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Other than pictures from the camera being degraded compared to stock and having to install apps from the Play Store/changing a few settings in the Settings app, everything seems to work fine