What audio formats does the Streak play?
I never had so much trouble looking up the answer to such a simple question.
So experimentation shows that it doesn't play lossless wma files.
Is there a lossless format that will play on it?
get PowerAMP it plays plenty of file types:
mp3, mp4/m4a (including alac), ogg, wma*, flac, wav, ape, wv, tta (* some wma pro files may require NEON support)
I love it, it's automated, so when I plug in my headphones (even BT ones) it resumes play.
the basic player is just that, basic.
I'd link it, but I'm new, look it up on appbrain.
mid_life_crisis said:
What audio formats does the Streak play?
I never had so much trouble looking up the answer to such a simple question.
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Good question. I can only speak for FLAC support as I don't use anything else.
The only Android media player that I know of that recognises FLAC is PowerAMP
http://powerampapp.com/
I second @bugmenotacc's endorsement.
I tried PowerAmp and it didn't play the album I ripped to flac.
I read the help section this morning (amazing what you can learn when you do that) and found out about selecting folders instead of the android library and lo and behold flac files play. Looks like I'll probably end up buying PowerAmp.
Yes it gets a bit confusing, glad you got it sorted too.
I loaded about 6 albums to my sd card today and set Android Settings to pull in the album artwork. Which all happened very quickly and seamlesly.
It is probably old fashioned of me but I prefer to set a Music folder rather than always have the app search my device for files.
Enjoy the app.
Just wonderig what settings can be used to get the audio from my BD's to play correctly in stock video player.
Ive tried Serenity and I Am Legend. I tried AAC(faac and other one), AC3 (pass thru and ff*something), MP3(lame), even DTS. tried stero, dolby surround, pro logic II, various sample and bit rates.
No matter which combinations i used i either got no audio or audio that was out of sync...behind about 2/3 seconds maybe.
Anyone know of an audio settings that will allow stick player to play audio without issue.
*Dice player played some of these fine, others with lagged audio....but i would like these to play stock player.
Thanks
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Just wonderig what settings can be used to get the audio from my BD's to play correctly in stock video player.
Ive tried Serenity and I Am Legend. I tried AAC(faac and other one), AC3 (pass thru and ff*something), MP3(lame), even DTS. tried stero, dolby surround, pro logic II, various sample and bit rates.
No matter which combinations i used i either got no audio or audio that was out of sync...behind about 2/3 seconds maybe.
Anyone know of an audio settings that will allow stick player to play audio without issue.
*Dice player played some of these fine, others with lagged audio....but i would like these to play stock player.
Thanks
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Personally,I've never had much luck with the stock video player.Mobo Player has a free version from the market and will play just about anything using the soft decoding setting from within the app.
Unfortunately I can't offer any advice using HB, I do all of my conversion/transcoding using mplayer/mencoder. I would think that any standard mp3 bitrate would work. You may need to lower the video quality a bit too in order for your phone to have enough CPU to keep things in sync. That is assuming it's in sync when you test playing on a computer with something like VLC...
If you'd like, I'll check the rates of some files at home this evening and let you know what rates I have for them.
As far as playing the files on your phone, the best app I've found is MXPlayer. Well, and XBMC to play from my DLNA server over the network
Mxplayer and esfile to stream over the network
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I'm new to Android, switching from iOS recently. I love it so far, but I have 2 problems with music that are minor but very annoying. Please note all my music was tagged perfectly in iTunes with correct artwork, etc, when I was on iOS and I simply copied my iTunes Music folder to my SD card on my Galaxy S3. Music Player/PlayerPro/PowerAmp/etc all find and play the music perfectly, except for these 2 issues:
1) All the albums that had Album Artist "Various Artists" in iTunes show on my S3 as being by whichever is the artist of track 1, so all my compilations show like that instead of "Various Artists".
2) Since my S3 plays FLAC files, I download some of my very favourite songs from certain albums in FLAC and replaced the mp3 on the SD card with the FLAC. I tried using iTag Pro and Audio Tagger Pro, etc, on the S3 to make the tags of the new mixed mp3/FLAC album exactly the same, but no matter what I do, Music Player/PlayerPro/PowerAmp/etc all display the album as 2 different albums.
For example, I now have 2 x Snow Patrol "Up To Now" albums showing - one mp3 with all tracks except Chasing Cars, and one with a single FLAC file (Chasing Cars). As I said, I've made all the tags for Album, Artist, Album Artist, Genre, Year, etc, the same, but the phone always sees them as 2 albums - how do I merge?
Many thanks
Easiest recommendation - get another audio player.
The stock one is fine for Joe Average but anything a tad more sophisticated does not work or at least not as intended.
There are a lot of free ones in the Play Store.
Lots of people recommend PowerAmp but I myself have not yet used it.
Remember, you're on Android; you can change every (well... most) aspects of the phone's behaviour to your choice. Use that power =)
I already tried PlayerPro and PowerAmp and n7Player, same problem.
stumbled on a fix
im better with computers than phone but am getting there slowly
Id thought id post this as it seems to have fixed it for me. I'm using Linux and i used sound converter and easy-tag applications to fix this. I expect there's other programs that will do exactly the same thing.
I spent hours adding pictures to my mp3 collection and editing the tags then copying them to my phone and only a few worked. All music players i tested still refused to recognize all tags and pictures embedded. That was right up till i noticed in easy-tags that the ones that did work were on a 320 insanely high bit-rate.
As a last resort effort i converted them all with sound-converter to a bit-rate of 320 and re-sampled them at 4400 MHz. Then i reopened them in easy-tag to fix any text errors and finally copied them all to the phone with crossed fingers. Well blow me down. it worked, all mp3 music files, pictures and tags were now recognized by all music players on the galaxy s3 i9300.
Hope this helps someone.
I use puddletag to tag all my music on llinux. Not for android though, google music.
Sound But No Vision
HD video mp4 files taken with my Samsung mini video camera have until a few days ago played perfectly well via Video Player on my Tab 10. (with ICS).
Since last week after downloading the files via the usb connection from the microsd card as usual, when I use Video Player I get a box saying 'play audio data only' so no picture just sound. Previous mp4 files already downloaded into Gallery all play properly. I have converted these latest mp4 files to .wmv and they play fine but it is a mystery why this should suddenly happen.
I doubt it is the camera or the card as all the files on the card play properly on my PC and my wife's Tab2 7.1. I can't recall making any changes to my Tab 10 but there is always a possiblity that I have, unknowingly - at least that's my story
Any advice would be welcome but please treat me gently and bear in mind I am a novice in things Galaxy Tab. Things like factory restarts scare the whatsit out of me
PS; I have searched among old posts but any vaguely relevant are old and refer to Honeycomb so perhaps are not applicable.
How about try mobo player?
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How about try mobo player?
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Sorry, I should have mentioned that I have tried these players, MX, mobo, MVideo, Vplayer and HD player. It seems that my Tab does something to these later files which affects all the payers in some way although the Video Player that comes with the Tab is the only one that shows the dialog box saying 'play audio data only'
It sounds like an option has been made to only play the audio but I can't find it anywhere on the Tab or in Video Player that gives such a choice. Equally, there is the possiblity that I closed VP and stupidly chose 'force stop' which I understand may cause errors. What you do about that situation I don't know unless its possible to reinstall Video Player but I can't find a way of doing that as the app doesn't appear on Shop or Android apps stores.
I've had a look at the files using Cyberlink PowerDirector and it plays them perfectly and there are no queries with either its appearance or the 'techy' information presented for them.
I am no judge but perhaps it is one of those 'tap seven times in Settings' things that you read about in these threads.
Long story short:
I have a Galaxy S8 with Samsung Music and a huge music library on my PC as AAC files in iTunes (I used to have an ipod). I downloaded them as MP3s but converted them to AAC to use in iTunes.
I would put the music on my S8 by connecting it to the PC, using Windows Media Player and moving my new songs over to the Sync tab on the right sidebar and click the green Sync button. Presto! Songs are added to Galaxy S8 as WMA files and play fine on Samsung Music.
Cut to: the other day, I just bought the Galaxy S22+ and it took 13 hours to transfer over my apps, music, etc, however none of the music will play in Samsung Music on the S22+. After Googling all day, I found out that Samsung Music (or is it Android) won't play WMA files on phones made after 2021 and because they won't add/fix a codec. Someone else posted about it in the Sammy forums, Samsung responded to get a third party app and seemed to not care we weren't using their own app. The Samsung Music app still works and loads my songs on my S22+ but the songs don't play. I'm curious if changing the file extensions on the WMAs would help.
I just want to keep using Samsung Music on the S22+ and don't want to install a third party app (like VLC or Poweramp). But so far, I've tried a variety of music players to no avail. Muzio (my 2nd favorite) gave the same error as Samsung Music and I couldn't play anything. The only one that kinda works is VLC, but the UI is very buggy and not intuitive. In fact, it's a pain to use.
Last night before I made myself go to bed after pulling my hair out all day, I downloaded Musicbee and was considering just transferring the AACS over to the S22+ even though doing so will take up a lot more space as my average AAC file is twice the size of its WMA counterpart. My phone is only slotted 256mg since I got the S22+.
Please, please help me, I am desperate and love the phone but having no music on it is a deal breaker for me and I don't have a lot of time left in my return window if i decide to go back to my S8 (which i'd rather not do cause I kinda like the S22+).
Poweramp, paid version. Been using it for over 2 years to manage my 212 gb wav/mp4 music database.
It's a complicated setup, a steep learning curve and it's the best, most customizable music player there is. Supports unlimited playlists.
Always keep a exported backup of the settings saved off of the phone!!! Keep a backup carbon copy of the library as well as it's needed for playlist reconstruction by Poweramp.
Library folder layout: Artist/Album/Song, folders for each artist and album.
In the future you sould use a higher resolution format as close to 24 bits as possible especially if paying for it.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I've already tried a lot of the most suggested players. Muzio was 2nd to Samsung Music because it felt the same, but it too was plagued by the dreaded codec issue. The next best one (and that's not saying much) was VLC, which is buggy, slow and had the tendency to refresh the entire library if you're not careful.
You're right, Poweramp has a tough learning curve and it's not a very intuitive UI even with customization.
I'm really just trying to find a somewhat painless way to get my music either into Samsung Music or even Muzio, but I know that's tough because of the codec issue. I'd take the long time to convert my music if it would be close in quality, but going from Mp3 -> AAC -> Mp3 makes me think I'll lose a lot of quality a s would be better starting from scratch (which would take months and months of constant painstaking re-downloading and headaches.
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Poweramp, paid version. Been us for over 2 years to manage my 212 gb wav/mp4 music database.
It's a complicated setup, a steep learning curve and it's the best, most customizable music player there is. Supports unlimited playlists.
Always keep a exported backup of the settings saved off of the phone!!! Keep a backup carbon copy of the library as well as it's needed for playlist reconstruction by Poweramp.
Library folder layout: Artist/Album/Song, folders for each artist and album.
In the future you sould use a higher resolution format as close to 24 bits as possible especially if paying for it.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I've alrea
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It's a tough pill to swallow but Poweramp is rock solid with no issues and near bulletproof. I spent quit a few hours setting it up but the only time I spend on it now is just adding to the playlists or the occasional backup file export.
It's graphic equalizer is second to none and is a must have if using the Buds+ to listen to music.
Have you tried retro music player or clean music player? Been my two music players over the years.
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Would changing the extension on the WMA files (to mp3) on the S22+ work? Someone mentioned this to me but I haven't had the time to try it.
sometimes it can work. but there are times when you get a corrupted file.
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It's a tough pill to swallow but Poweramp is rock solid with no issues and near bulletproof. I spent quit a few hours setting it up but the only time I spend on it now is just adding to the playlists or the occasional backup file export.
It's graphic equalizer is second to none and is a must have if using the Buds+ to listen to music.
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I tried playing around with Poweramp in my S8 and it's just OK. I mean, if nothing else works, I guess I could try using it for a while. I'm mostly concerned about re-doing all my playlists (none of them came over) and being able to add new songs onto the new phone (S22+). One would think it would be the same way as I did with the S8 but the way things have been going lately, I'm not holding my breath.
Last night, and only for a few minutes bc I was so tired and stressed, I plugged the S22+ into my PC to see if the sync function on WMP turned green (ready to sync) and it didn't, which makes me skeptical that itll work and I'll be back on here, trying to find a new way to add songs.
Do direct folder copy and paste only. I manually sync the music database to avoid hard to detect screw ups.
Never clone or compress media files as the null marks are important.
The music database should be the identical across all copies.
Your playlists may be lost and the database gets first priority. Planning ahead will save a lot of suffering and time. My database is 16 yo now, still in it's original file structure layout. Be thoughtful about it and well organized...
Setting up Poweramp is time consuming, no way to get around that. The reward is a superior player customized exactly as you want it. After which it can easily be reincarnated onto any Android or after a factory reset if you preserve the music database and the Poweramp export settings. The license also carries over seamlessly. It was a snap to set up on my second N10+; install app/unlocker, copy music database, import settings, scan music library command.
I was hoping to be able to add songs "the old way" by adding the mp3 to iTunes, converting to AAC and then syncing with WMP so the files are consistently WMA and it's the way I'm used to. I won't be home for another 5 hours so I won't know if it will even lley me sync "the old way". Also, if I'm just gonna drag and drop then I'll be dropping the AAC files, which was a problem since they're so big. If I leave the songs as Mp3s and drag and drop, then I'll have inconsistencies in files and volume.
Just tried listening to the same song on SM and on Poweramp and Poweramp sounded dull, flat and lower. Granted, I have the Smart Volume on in SM but I couldn't find anything like that in Poweramp. Another strike against it I guess.
I really just want SM to work, it sucks because I'm not asking for a lot, just for a SAMSUNG app to work on a SAMSUNG product. What a concept, right?
Adjust the graphic equalizer, it gives you far more control than a one button fixes all. By fault it's setting is neutral so it's not the problem.
Check it's Audio Info page and output settings.
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Adjust the graphic equalizer, it gives you far more control than a one button fixes all. By fault it's setting is neutral so it's not the problem.
Check it's Audio Info page and output settings.
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I have no idea how to read, let alone set an equalizer. I like one size fits all for volume so I'm not constantly fiddling with it up, down, etc.
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I have no idea how to read, let alone set an equalizer. I like one size fits all for volume so I'm not constantly fiddling with it up, down, etc.
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From the Galaxy store install Sound Assistant, it will allow up to 100 volume increments to be set.
Adjustments of the equalizer bands is done by ear. It will vary depending on output driver(s) and listening area as well as the source music.
Generally it should be a smooth wave across rather than abrupt ups and downs.
You can set multiple profiles and assign by song or folder.
This is the profile I generally use for the Buds+
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Thank you for replying and being so quick with suggestions - I appreciate all the back and forth we've had today. If I wanted to forgo Poweramp and just use SM, what would you do in my situation?
. Convert the AACs (which started out originally as Mp3s) into Mp3s using iTunes?
. Use Musicbee to move the AACs over to the S22+ even though it'll take up twice the space as the WMAs?
. Change the file extensions of the WMAs to Mp3s on the S22+ and cross your fingers?
I ask because the Poweramp learning curve is still very tough, even after playing with it all day. Plus I'm now concerned with adding new music going forward to Poweramp on the new phone because something tells me it's not going to be easy since I'm not even sure my S22+ will connect/sync with WMP.
Keep the music in it's original format. Converting it can end up degrading the audio quality.
I can't say what I would do other than what I have done. Got tired of screwing around which why I use Poweramp. Many of the other players can't be configured correctly to meet my needs or have other issues.
You're not going to throw Poweramp together in a day or two unless you already set it up before and saved the settings.
You need it first to display the database correctly.
Then the audio setup, equalizer, etc.
Then create the playlists.
There are many settings to explore beyond the default ones as time permits. As you build it up remember to backup the settings so if you "break" it somehow playing with the settings you only loss the time to the last backup.
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Keep the music in it's original format. Converting it can edd up degrading the audio quality.
I can't say what I would do other than what I have done. Got tired of screwing around which why I use Poweramp. Many of the other players can't be configured correctly to meet my needs or have other issues.
You're not going to throw Poweramp together in a day or two unless you already set it up before and saved the settings.
You need it first to display the database correctly.
Then the audio setup, equalizer, etc.
Then create the playlists.
There are many settings to explore beyond the default ones as time permits. As you build it up remember to backup the settings so if you "break" it somehow playing with the settings you only loss the time to the last backup.
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I've already gone through Poweramp and gotten things mostly the way I like them. There's a few things I still can't figure out, but I'm getting the hang of it. I'm definitely going to keep my phone and will probably fork over the money for the full version of Poweramp. I plan to keep messing with it and try to forget SM...for now.
On the side I may try to convert the AACs to Mp3 via iTunes and see for myself how bad they sound in comparison and try to get SM eventually. I'm definitely taking a break from all things phone music for a few days to get my head back on straight.
Thank you again x 1000 for all of your replies and support, you've saved me from going COMPLETELY insane over this.
Thanks again,
Brian
You're welcome.
Take your time and think it through first.
I would not convert those files, use as is.
Read this and do some more searches ie aac vs mp3 etc.
Never go to a lower resolution format and avoiding converting altogether is the best plan.
If you rip a CD to hard drive always save as a wav and -nothing- else. Many CDs are in fact HDCDs and possess up to 22 bit resolution. It is contained as subtext on the wav file. Converting a HDCD wav file will destroy the HDCD encryption and render it as a 16 bit image or lower. It must be saved as a wav file to preserve the HDCD encryption! 22 bits vs 16 is a lot.
A 24 bit or higher DAC can glean up to 90% or so of the encoded subtext. No HDCD converter is needed however if available, use it as it will glean 100% of the HDCD encryption.
The data stream must remain in the digital realm until input into the 24 bit or higher DAC or HDCD converter! Either electrical or optical toslink (highly preferred for ground loop blocking isolation) can be used between devices like the PC and stereo preamp to stay in the digital realm vs a analog signal.
Tony Harding of Denon Electronics was kind enough to patiently teach me about HDCD technology back in 2004.
blackhawk said:
You're welcome.
Take your time and think it through first.
I would not convert those files, use as is.
Read this and do some more searches ie aac vs mp3 etc.
Never go to a lower resolution format and avoiding converting altogether is the best plan.
If you rip a CD to hard drive always save as a wav and -nothing- else. Many CDs are in fact HDCDs and possess up to 22 bit resolution. It is contained as subtext on the wav file. Converting a HDCD wav file will destroy the HDCD encryption and render it as a 16 bit image or lower. It must be saved as a wav file to preserve the HDCD encryption! 22 bits vs 16 is a lot.
A 24 bit or higher DAC can glean up to 90% or so of the encoded subtext. No HDCD converter is needed however if available, use it as it will glean 100% of the HDCD encryption.
The data stream must remain in the digital realm until input into the 24 bit or higher DAC or HDCD converter! Either electrical or optical toslink (highly preferred for ground loop blocking isolation) can be used between devices like the PC and stereo preamp to stay in the digital realm vs a analog signal.
Tony Harding of Denon Electronics was kind enough to patiently teach me about HDCD technology back in 2004.
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Thanks for the info! I'm getting used to Poweramp but there's a few things I'm still not on board with. One is the volume leveler we briefly touched on. The other is that when I'm scrolling through tracks or albums, info go the slightest bit off center in my swipe, I get taken back to another part of the app. Similar thing happens when I hit the Back button on my phone and it exits the app instead of going back to the main screen or to the album I'm playing.
I'm also trying to find a way to remove songs from playlists like "recently added" or "recently played" but it only gives me a prompt to delete the song completely. That's annoying.
I'm not 100% on board with Poweramp but it works bettwr than I originally thought (thanks to you) and it works for now, or until I find a better solution.
Also, when it comes to converting the AACs (back) to mp3s, I had someone else tell me that as long as I started out with a good, high quality file, that then conversion shouldn't hurt sound quality too much, if not much at all. Most of my Mp3s that I converted to AACs were 320mbps and they converted to 128mbps AACs. Idk, just something I was told and want to see for myself.
You need to get used to it's navigation, lol it still tags me sometimes even now. Lol, I need to explore Poweramp more as there may be better ways to interface with it.
When you remove a song from a playlist it should remain in the library. I tested it and it doesn't remove it on my copy.
You can also move songs up/down on the playlist.
If the format is playable there's nothing to gain by converting it except potential data loss. When initially downloading or buying though always choose the highest resolution native format.
Otherwise you'll end downloading or buying the same song many times to get better sound quality. Once you hear the difference you can't go back to the ignorant bliss you once enjoyed
Open room listening with two stereo speakers (or more channels/speakers) is quit different from listening to headphones or buds. In the former the audio waves interact with each other to reproduce the sound stage present where it was recorded. You are electro-acoustically coupled, like voodoo magic.
The better the recording, playback equipment and listening area acoustics the more realistic the sound stage reproduction.
If a 50khz audio wave collides with a 40khz wave, a 10khz wave is created. While you can't hear the primary waves of the first two, you can hear their byproduct. This is why you never want to limit inaudible frequencies; they create the sound stage. Thousands of these interactions per second across the audio wave bandwidth produces the sound stage as if you where there.
You'll hear sounds coming from midair all about you... not just the sound sources.
Because of this you want high resolution recordings that faithfully record from 10hz to at least 50khz or higher. Then it will truly suck to only have a flat sounding MP3... they sound like crap compared to a sparkling HDCD.
Yes, well... welcome to the fking planet
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You need to get used to it's navigation, lol it still tags me sometimes even now. Lol, I need to explore Poweramp more as there may be better ways to interface with it.
When you remove a song from a playlist it should remain in the library. I tested it and it doesn't remove it on my copy.
You can also move songs up/down on the playlist.
If the format is playable there's nothing to gain by converting it except potential data loss. When initially downloading or buying though always choose the highest resolution native format.
Otherwise you'll end downloading or buying the same song many times to get better sound quality. Once you hear the difference you can't go back to the ignorant bliss you once enjoyed
Open room listening with two stereo speakers (or more channels/speakers) is quit different from listening to headphones or buds. In the former the audio waves interact with each other to reproduce the sound stage present where it was recorded. You are electro-acoustically coupled, like voodoo magic.
The better the recording, playback equipment and listening area acoustics the more realistic the sound stage reproduction.
If a 50khz audio wave collides with a 40khz wave, a 10khz wave is created. While you can't hear the primary waves of the first two, you can hear their byproduct. This is why you never want to limit inaudible frequencies; they create the sound stage. Thousands of these interactions per second across the audio wave bandwidth produces the sound stage as if you where there.
You'll hear sounds coming from midair all about you... not just the sound sources.
Because of this you want high resolution recordings that faithfully record from 10hz to at least 50khz or higher. Then it will truly suck to only have a flat sounding MP3... they sound like crap compared to a sparkling HDCD.
Yes, well... welcome to the fking planet
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I made a mistake, the stock playlists like "recently played," etc. are the ones that prompt me to delete the entire song. Playlists I create allow me to just remove the track from the playlist.
I wasn't questioning your knowledge regarding the AAC conversion, just throwing out a different bit of knowledge I heard. I'm not very knowledgeable with audio and the technical side, but I know what my ears like so it's good to know even a little bit of the tech of it all. I usually listen to my phone music either with buds or in my car so I'm not that much into the surround aspect of it all, but it's good to know. I think I'm going to still keep trucking with PA for now.
I have given myself the day off today but tomorrow I'm going to try to sync a newly downloaded WMA file to my new S22+ the old way (iTunes -> AAC -> WMP -> Android) and see what happens. The other day, in my stressed-out haste, I plugged the S22+ into my PC and tried to move over a Mp3 with that method and the sync button in WMP didnt even turn green (allowing me to sync). I'm not sure if it's because it's a different phone than my S8 or what, but I'm really hoping it doesn't happen, because even with PA, I want to be able to add new songs and I just want uniformity and ease, but don't we all?