I really like the XA's look, unfortunately it is quite weak. However the XA Ultra seems to have some good specs although I'm not familiar with it's cpu. How is MediaTek MT6755 compared to Snapdragon 801 in the Z3?
How big of a downgrade would this be? Can we also compare it to the Nexus 5X since it's similarly priced?
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I really like the XA's look, unfortunately it is quite weak. However the XA Ultra seems to have some good specs although I'm not familiar with it's cpu. How is MediaTek MT6755 compared to Snapdragon 801 in the Z3?
How big of a downgrade would this be? Can we also compare it to the Nexus 5X since it's similarly priced?
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The MediaTek MT6755 is supposed to be faster than the Snapdragon 801 .
See:
wccftech.com/mt6755-latest-soc-octacore-cortexa53-cpu/
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The MediaTek MT6755 is supposed to be faster than the Snapdragon 801 .
See:
wccftech.com/mt6755-latest-soc-octacore-cortexa53-cpu/
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I have the normal xa and I have to say I'm highly impressed with it it flies with no lag and the edge to edge display is stunning
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If you compare every ford automobile to the GT-40 they will all come up short. I have been waiting for this phone to come out. It has a true 6 inch screen, hard to find these days. Any body who calls a phone less than 6 inches a fablet is a idiot . For what you get for the price the only complaint is the battery.
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I really like the XA's look, unfortunately it is quite weak. However the XA Ultra seems to have some good specs although I'm not familiar with it's cpu. How is MediaTek MT6755 compared to Snapdragon 801 in the Z3?
How big of a downgrade would this be? Can we also compare it to the Nexus 5X since it's similarly priced?
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I think it is a significant downgrade. MediaTek was on the Xperia C5 Ultra, and there is a noticeable lag, but I'm a kind of person that leaves 40+ webpages open and forget to clear out my multi task applications. Supposedly the new MediaTek is smooth with no hickups, I just got my phone today, so we'll see. I came from using the Xperia Z Ultra, which was a SnapDragon beast, I followed Sony's phablet 6-inches lineups from the Z Ultra, T2 Ultra, C5 Ultra, now finally to the XA Ultra. I think the Z Series are strong performing phones. The X series is really for first-time Android buyers, but never had an iPhone. Really, I think it's suited for the Indian 3rd world market, because 16 GB of internal storage fills up so fast! Practically Sony is making throw away phones that will last only a year on the market. Because storage space is the largest issue with this internal storage debacle! No one can really maintain a slim-line storage. That takes an minimalist when there are so many apps to download, and all these alternative photo apps Snapchat and Instagram images go straight to internal and there's save-management to SD Card for these kinda 3rd party apps.
A 6-inch screen calls for stream apps! Yet those apps are huge in file size! I use more that 5 streaming apps... Because my cable app doesn't do it, and each broadcasting show has their own independent app, and you sign in with your cable subscription. It really kills me that I have so little storage to work with. Also the Netflix-s alike.
I am rooting for Sony like a cheerleader, but they need to get it together with the spec choices. A 16GB SD Card on the market now is about $10. To think the internal chip is less than that at wholesale. I keep asking myself, why am I buying a 10 dollar phone for $230? It should really be 128GB and cut the crap.
In conclusion if you're coming from a Z series, and thinking about it... The design is nice, if you want the whole 6-inch screen experience, you will sacrifice a lot and curve your storage by using external and cloud storage. Even then you will have problems moving files back and forth because of Google and SD Storage transfer file restrictions and can only do so when you plug your cellphone in your computer.
Honestly I would just wait for the next flagship phone coming from another Z series phone or the current Z5 series, and this can be a 2nd phone for play (like one those mobile reviewers)
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I think it is a significant downgrade. MediaTek was on the Xperia C5 Ultra, and there is a noticeable lag, but I'm a kind of person that leaves 40+ webpages open and forget to clear out my multi task applications. Supposedly the new MediaTek is smooth with no hickups, I just got my phone today, so we'll see. I came from using the Xperia Z Ultra, which was a SnapDragon beast, I followed Sony's phablet 6-inches lineups from the Z Ultra, T2 Ultra, C5 Ultra, now finally to the XA Ultra. I think the Z Series are strong performing phones. The X series is really for first-time Android buyers, but never had an iPhone. Really, I think it's suited for the Indian 3rd world market, because 16 GB of internal storage fills up so fast! Practically Sony is making throw away phones that will last only a year on the market. Because storage space is the largest issue with this internal storage debacle! No one can really maintain a slim-line storage. That takes an minimalist when there are so many apps to download, and all these alternative photo apps Snapchat and Instagram images go straight to internal and there's save-management to SD Card for these kinda 3rd party apps.
A 6-inch screen calls for stream apps! Yet those apps are huge in file size! I use more that 5 streaming apps... Because my cable app doesn't do it, and each broadcasting show has their own independent app, and you sign in with your cable subscription. It really kills me that I have so little storage to work with. Also the Netflix-s alike.
I am rooting for Sony like a cheerleader, but they need to get it together with the spec choices. A 16GB SD Card on the market now is about $10. To think the internal chip is less than that at wholesale. I keep asking myself, why am I buying a 10 dollar phone for $230? It should really be 128GB and cut the crap.
In conclusion if you're coming from a Z series, and thinking about it... The design is nice, if you want the whole 6-inch screen experience, you will sacrifice a lot and curve your storage by using external and cloud storage. Even then you will have problems moving files back and forth because of Google and SD Storage transfer file restrictions and can only do so when you plug your cellphone in your computer.
Honestly I would just wait for the next flagship phone coming from another Z series phone or the current Z5 series, and this can be a 2nd phone for play (like one those mobile reviewers)
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I highly recommend you go and try one if possible, I did and I didn't think twice about it once I'd had a go.
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Ive had mine for 2 days now and i think it destroys the Z3 in every way aprt from the sound chip ie no built in noise cancellation for supporting headphones and sound quality via headphone jack isnt as good but thats a mute point for me as i now have bluetooth headphones. No waterproofing on the xa ultra either.
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I highly recommend you go and try one if possible, I did and I didn't think twice about it once I'd had a go.
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WHAT HE SAID .. i have the xa ultra and love the size , no lags battery is not that great tho funny i also have a z5 premium and i like this one better why sony didn't put this same front camera own their flagship wtf
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WHAT HE SAID .. i have the xa ultra and love the size , no lags battery is not that great tho funny i also have a z5 premium and i like this one better why sony didn't put this same front camera own their flagship wtf
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Go to settings/location and tap the three dot menu, and then turn off scanning always available inc when screen is off for WiFi and Bluetooth. I've turned it off in settings WiFi advanced aswell. I've also enabled greenify's agressesive doze and doze on the go via adb so now doze kicks in in minutes instead of hours
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Amazon has the XA Ultra for $298 now for the US. Compare that to their $600+ flagship, lol.
Does XA Ultra support quick charge?
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Amazon has the XA Ultra for $298 now for the US. Compare that to their $600+ flagship, lol.
Does XA Ultra support quick charge?
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The xa range does I think, though my xa charges from empty to full in about a hour hour and half tops on the standard supplied Sony charger.
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Amazon has the XA Ultra for $298 now for the US. Compare that to their $600+ flagship, lol.
Does XA Ultra support quick charge?
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no it does not
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no it does not
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The normal xa supports quick charging so I would imagine the xa ultra does too. Only supplied with a stock Sony charger though(in UK) it'll still charge from zero to full in about a hour though.
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kennehh said:
no it does not
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I'm OK with @aidy.lucas pretty sure it does, but not with stock charger.
kennehh said:
no it does not
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The Sony website says that it does.
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The Sony website says that it does.
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I stand corrected, its very strange how they would not include a quick charger in the box
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Ive had mine for 2 days now and i think it destroys the Z3 in every way aprt from the sound chip ie no built in noise cancellation for supporting headphones and sound quality via headphone jack isnt as good but thats a mute point for me as i now have bluetooth headphones. No waterproofing on the xa ultra either.
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If you are rooted you can try Viper4Android for having better sound, it have many settings :good:
Above all if there is one thing that has impressed me with this phone it's the display. It's just very nice to look at. It has very deep blacks which makes the display feel like an Amoled from time to time. The contrast is also very good because of the deep blacks. It's just very easy on the eyes and smooth to look at and has less of the "glowing" sensation that I think many LCD's has and mine has very good color uniformity also. I truly enjoy its display.
Related
http://www.xperiaguide.com/2014/01/...412-wi-fi-real-photos-user-manual-leaked-fcc/
Ultra Wifi
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http://www.xperiaguide.com/2014/01/...412-wi-fi-real-photos-user-manual-leaked-fcc/
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What a waste of hardware instead they should be working on the next gen of the ultra 2.0 with a better camera with flash a new CPU and smaller Basel. Come on sony that is lame
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What a waste of hardware instead they should be working on the next gen of the ultra 2.0 with a better camera with flash a new CPU and smaller Basel. Come on sony that is lame
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A new CPU? The Snapdragon 800 is already top of the line. At best we can see a 805, but its not exactly that special. Faster GPU again, bit higher clock speed on the CPU, ...
Better Camera, sure ... especially with flash ( is actually a handy flashlight ). And preferable a removable battery ( so a extended battery can be installed without all the voltage conversion, and other power drains ).
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What a waste of hardware instead they should be working on the next gen of the ultra 2.0 with a better camera with flash a new CPU and smaller Basel. Come on sony that is lame
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They are definitely working on the Ultra 2 as we speak. It doesn't take a week to develop a new device. It takes a looong time. Do you think a device is finished when it gets released? No, the device itself is finished long before release. They have to manufacture hundreds of thousands or millions of devices for the release day, and that takes time, so they probably started with the Ultra 2 some time ago. They have to design it, they have to order up parts and components for that specific device, they have to test it for long periods of time. It's not done in a week.
The average time it takes a small team to develop a native app? Everything between 4-12 months (depending on its complexity), and that's just code. Now, how long does it take to make a physical device plus software to run on it?
by new cpu I meant to say higher CPU clock speed. I know that Snapdragon 800 is the fastest now but at a lower speed on the ultra.
After using the Z Ultra for a few months, I feel that Sony is a bit conflicted on how to position this great product. It is awkward to use it as a phone (when making phone call, keep it in the pocket) and the slew of accessories only alienating it from functioning as a phone (the CP-12 Power case, SBH52 Bluetooth Handset). And now producing a version with only wifi connectivity.
It seems that Sony itself is not sure what exactly is the Z Ultra.
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only problem I have is that now everybody is going think the Z Ultra is just a tablet. kinda like the iPhone 4/4s deal where the only way to differentiate the two was for the person to tell you since they looked identical from the exterior. Lol
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Ok, I'm up to purchase a new tablet and I am divided between Z2 and Tab S.
I'm a happy owner of a Z1 tablet and I am wondering if Z2 is a better option than Tab S.
A far as I can tell Z2 has the edge on the chipset side but Tab S has a better screen, so my question for you is this: Wich tablet would you advise me to purchase?
One last detail: I love to read and browse the Web.
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Here in this forum you'll hear: "Z2 Tablet, of course", in the Tab S forum you'll hear: "Tab S, of course". You have to try and decide yourself.
Fast, easy to root, light in software, better build quality = Z2
Not as easy to root, getting slower by time caused by bloatware, build quality debatable, far better screen = Tab S
Just my opinion. I bought the Z2 because of Knox and Bloatware but I'm missing the dual window feature that Samsung has.
I dislike the Sony UI, but I hate Samsung's Tablet UI. It is even worse than their phone UI.
When I bought my tablet, this was the main difference I recognized in the store.
Regarding the display, I wanted to have 1200p instead of 1600p. Huge resolutions don't add value, I could hardly see a difference between the Sony and the Samsung.
Of course when you look closely, you see some difference, but during day to day usage it doesn't make a difference. Just check it out for yourself, your mileage could vary.
But I explicitly searched for a 10 inch Tablet with Snapdragon 801 and a 1200p display, because higher resolutions destroy 3d-performance while not looking really better, and at the same time consume more power.
So I got what I wanted with the Z2. But you have your own needs, so you could come to a different conclusion. Android offers so much choice that everybody should be able to find his best-suited device. :good:
My main concern was exactly screen quality but seems that overall build quality tends to Z2 all the way...
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Pick up a Samsung galaxy s at the store.... Immediately you can tell the build difference in comparison to the z2. Galaxy s is flimsy and creaks... (I've looked at over 10 from different stores, so no its not an abnormality)... My Z2 is rock solid....now the resolution, software, and hardware? Hands down the z2 is better. But thats my opinion when analyzing the facts.
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kbroh said:
But thats my opinion when analyzing the facts.
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Er???
Either it's a fact that these things are better on the Z2, or it's "your opinion", i.e. somehow you like them better, without factual evidence.
Your sentence doesn't make any sense, sorry.
hasenbein1966 said:
Er???
Either it's a fact that these things are better on the Z2, or it's "your opinion", i.e. somehow you like them better, without factual evidence.
Your sentence doesn't make any sense, sorry.
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You should look again at what I stated before making an incoherent statement. To "analyze" facts between two devices is comparing them and "interpreting" the differences through the process of human understanding. Thus a subjective nature is prevalent.
Meaning you can analyze something, and base your subjective opinion off the facts that you have used.
If you are looking for a split comparison of the two devices, its impossible to fully do when each device has separate features. However, basing hardware and build, you can base the material build, board, and benchmarks in a factual comparison, then analyze that information to base your synopsis.
One lant question, Tablet Z2 is absolutely better than Z1 in hardware all the way, but an upgrade from Z1 to Z2 is advisable? will I notice, on a day to day basis, a great improvement or not?
Just add a annoying bug on touch screen on Z2.
I'm on version 17.1.1.A.0.402 with SGP511 and scroll with tablet is awful. It replace touch scroll for touch "click".
Touch issue on Z2 tablet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbtc96YE6O8
Cheers,
AllanJacques said:
One lant question, Tablet Z2 is absolutely better than Z1 in hardware all the way, but an upgrade from Z1 to Z2 is advisable? will I notice, on a day to day basis, a great improvement or not?
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I upgraded from the Tablet Z1 to the Z2 Tablet. The differences are not huge. It was more the idea of having the newest and greatest (as a birthday present for myself) than anything else.
Specific aspects of the Z2 that I really enjoy more than on the Z1 are
1. The screen is noticeably better, particularly from off angles
2. There's no longer a flap over the headphone jack
3. I prefer the wireless charging set up on the Z2. You don't need a stand in order to wirelessly charge.
I was also happy to make the change for a reason particular to me: my old Z1 had only 16GB - I had not realized when I bought it that you CANNOT install apps on an external microsd. So when I got the Z2 I made sure to get the 32GB version.
DaddyWhale said:
I upgraded from the Tablet Z1 to the Z2 Tablet. The differences are not huge. It was more the idea of having the newest and greatest (as a birthday present for myself) than anything else.
Specific aspects of the Z2 that I really enjoy more than on the Z1 are
1. The screen is noticeably better, particularly from off angles
2. There's no longer a flap over the headphone jack
3. I prefer the wireless charging set up on the Z2. You don't need a stand in order to wirelessly charge.
I was also happy to make the change for a reason particular to me: my old Z1 had only 16GB - I had not realized when I bought it that you CANNOT install apps on an external microsd. So when I got the Z2 I made sure to get the 32GB version.
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Can you define what you mean by wireless charging please? Do you mean you can use a magnetic lead like this on it? Or is there a feature I'm not aware of?
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Can you define what you mean by wireless charging please? Do you mean you can use a magnetic lead like this on it? Or is there a feature I'm not aware of?
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That's exactly what I mean. On the Tablet Z1 the wireless connections where on the two sides of the tablet when held in landscaper.
chentz78 said:
Just add a annoying bug on touch screen on Z2.
I'm on version 17.1.1.A.0.402 with SGP511 and scroll with tablet is awful. It replace touch scroll for touch "click".
Touch issue on Z2 tablet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbtc96YE6O8
Cheers,
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Simply install the newest firmware (... .314). If not yet available in your country, take one of the FTFs available here. (I took the Russian one, works flawlessly.)
Then the touch bug will be gone.
Kit Kat drove me to the higher memory option
AllanJacques said:
Ok, I'm up to purchase a new tablet and I am divided between Z2 and Tab S.
I'm a happy owner of a Z1 tablet and I am wondering if Z2 is a better option than Tab S.
A far as I can tell Z2 has the edge on the chipset side but Tab S has a better screen, so my question for you is this: Wich tablet would you advise me to purchase?
One last detail: I love to read and browse the Web.
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Hi, I looked into this quite deeply before going for the Z2. The Samsung S screen is excellent. But SD card woes under Android Kit Kat convinced me that I needed a 32 Gbyte tablet. There seem to be only 16 Gbyte Galaxy S' in Europe, so I went for the 32 Gbyte Z2.
Also, I have other Sony gear: camera NEX-6, TV....; the build quality of the Sony is higher; and the Samsung has a reputation for being loaded with bloatware and having a poor UI. Some reviews of the Samsung also mentioned that it stuttered under high processor loads.
Hope that helps.
The "SD card woes" under Kitkat are very easily resolvable (and thus not really "woes"):
1. Root
2. Install app "SDFix" from Playstore and run once (can be uninstalled after that). Done!
Then your SD card will work totally normal with full read-write access.
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The "SD card woes" under Kitkat are very easily resolvable (and thus not really "woes"):
1. Root
2. Install app "SDFix" from Playstore and run once (can be uninstalled after that). Done!
Then your SD card will work totally normal with full read-write access.
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Yes,thanks for that, I was just explaining the reasons dor my choice I suppose. And...
a) being a bit of a newbie and b) being otherwise very happy with my tablet, I don't feel the need to root just yet. But it's good to know the SDFix works with the Z2 tablet. Signs are that Sony might be bringing out a fix too. Rolling out on their cheaper smartphones now, I hear.
I wanted to have Tab S, but the speaker is terrible.
Moreover, Z2 has white balance control on the screen so you can adjust to your favor (I prefer clean/cool white).
I had the same question as you, and the Tab S was the only tablet available.
Having a Z2 device, I really wanted the tablet since the phone is awesome. I didn't want to wait for shipment from Sony's website, and I have regretted it every day of owning the Tab S.
It is sluggish, choppy, and video that plays smooth on my Z2, the exact same thing is choppy on my Tab S. Because of the stupid chipset dev is non existent on the 10.5, and does not look like it will ever pick up, especially since the Note 4 will have the Snapdragon chipset.
I am probably going to sell it, take a little hit, and buy the Z2.
How about the speaker on Z2 compared with Tab S?
I tested Tab S and the speaker is much lower than my Note 10.1 classic. I want to buy Z2 Tablet, but I worry about the speakers (assuming everything is nearly the same as Tab S).
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Finally I had an opportunity to try both and found speaker on z2 is much better than Tab S (the latter one is very weak and badly compressed). In addition, z2 feels much solid than Tab S.
Hello
I have been interested in an Ultra Z since the first day it's launched but never ended up having one due to a main reason. With a huge screen on the device it is every graphic designer's dream to be able to draw naturally like paper and pencil. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well as the Galaxy Note series.
Now that I have gotten myself a Galaxy Note Pro, my quest in searching for a device that allows natural handwriting and drawing is over. Yet the Ultra Z remains a attractive device and the price has dropped significantly. I think the lack of purchase has causes the price drop faster than many other flagship phones from last year. Nevertheless with just AUD350 the phone has become even more attractive.
I am just wondering if you Ultra Z users think if it is a sane decision to buy a phone that is a year old now? Are there now better alternatives out there with a similar screen size? Also has Sony mentioned if the phone is reaching its end of life soon (including Google Play Edition)?
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I'm thinking the same as yourself, as it is becoming more affordable here in the US as well.
Seen it as inexpensive as $250, either new or gently used.
Only negative is no LED for flash, which means no light for emergency use.
I'm looking for an inexpensive LTE mobile phone, this MIGHT BE IT.
Another negative; no removable battery.
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If you have no real use for a camera, then yes this phone is still a beast.
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”screen flashlight ” in the Google play store works pretty well on our Z ultra.
I've had mine for about a year now, and it's still a very powerful device. You won't have any issues with running apps and games. Keep in mind that we also have the Google Play Edition of the Ultra, and it will receive Android L fairly quickly after release, and we'll be able to port it to our model.
Screen is still very good, battery life is (still) good, camera is not great, and performance is top notch. It was worth it to me when I paid $1000 for it a year ago, and it's definitely worth it now.
Check out the reviews and stuff on YouTube or something if you're still not sure.
I was afraid at first i thought it will be too big. But now i can imagine myself having smaller Screen even samsung Note seems small now, Too small.
As it has been said, if don't care for the Camera much Z Ultra is the Best.
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Hello
I have been interested in an Ultra Z since the first day it's launched but never ended up having one due to a main reason. With a huge screen on the device it is every graphic designer's dream to be able to draw naturally like paper and pencil. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well as Galaxy Note series.
Now that I have gotten myself a Galaxy Note Pro, my quest in searching for a device that allows natural handwriting and drawing is now over. Yet the Ultra Z remains a attractive device and the price has dropped significantly. I think the lack of purchase has causes it to price drop faster than many other flagship phones from last year. Nevertheless with AUD350 the phone has just become even more attractive.
I am just wondering if you Ultra Z users think if it is a sane decision to buy a phone that is a year old now? Are there now better alternatives out there with a similar screen size? Also has Sony mentioned if the phone is reaching its end of life soon (including Google Play Edition)?
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Depends on how you look at it. If performance is the metric, you won't be disappointed. if you use camera extensively, well look elsewhere. and the last one, the battery life. It's quite good but if you compare with devices nowadays, there are better alternative. I'd say wait for the Z3X (if ever) in about a month. If it doesn't come up, then i can imagine the Z Ultra will be cheaper along the way.
Thank you all for your inputs!
I personally do not use mobile cameras for artistic purposes. I already have a Dslr so the camera is only for note-taking or public transport schedule. I think I just want a phone that is slightly faster than my HTC M7. It's true that there are better performers out there since this is a year old phone but any faster CPU than a Z Ultra has little to do with my uses.
Also there isn't a mobile phone at the moment that is as massive as this. I love the idea that I could read books with it in my bed. The Galaxy Note Pro is too heavy to hold in the hand for a long period of time.
The only bummer is the speaker. I have been spoiled by the M7's speakers for a year plus, very little devices top its superb sound quality. It will be the only downgrade for me should I go for this phone.
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Keep in mind that we also have the Google Play Edition of the Ultra, and it will receive Android L fairly quickly after release, and we'll be able to port it to our model.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
18 months supposedly. The Z Ultra should receive L, but the Z3 and Z2 should get it first. I would guess at least a few months or more after L is released.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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I am pretty sure that the GPe will get L quickly since one of the key reasons for the program is almost Nexus updates. Google will push the L to Sony soon after official release.
All GPe devices should have L shortly after the Nexus series and I haven't seen any indication to the contrary.
It is also important to remember that Ultra GPe is vanilla Android with just the EQ added (Sony ClearAudio) and otherwise identical to a Nexus.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
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E90 Commie said:
I am pretty sure that the GPe will get L quickly since one of the key reasons for the program is almost Nexus updates. Google will push the L to Sony soon after official release.
All GPe devices should have L shortly after the Nexus series and I haven't seen any indication to the contrary.
It is also important to remember that Ultra GPe is vanilla Android with just the EQ added (Sony ClearAudio) and otherwise identical to a Nexus.
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Since the Ultra's release, Sony has already pushed out a few prompt updates for it. I personally do not think this device is any type of priority for them. We will be damn lucky to get another update imo, and after we do, I wouldnt expect any more.
If it was Google handling the updates, things might be different, but this is a two generation old Sony device, not a Nexus. It is very close to EOL.
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Since the Ultra's release, Sony has already pushed out a few prompt updates for it. I personally do not think this device is any type of priority for them. We will be damn lucky to get another update imo, and after we do, I wouldnt expect any more.
If it was Google handling the updates, things might be different, but this is a two generation old Sony device, not a Nexus. It is very close to EOL.
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That'd suck if it's not getting L. HTC has confirmed even the M7 which was released before Ultra will get L
However Ultra hasn't been selling as well as they'd like they have probably even given up on releasing a successor.
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That'd suck if it's not getting L. HTC has confirmed even the M7 which was released before Ultra will get L
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Im sure it will get L, but I personally don't think we should expect more.
Recently, got a Z Ultra (from a Mega 6.3). Don't regret it for the most part. Screen isn't the brightest in direct sunlight (not that the mega was that much better), Camera quality isn't as good as my mega imo, sound is lower (that my mega) I'm assuming because of the waterproofing, and kinda a fingerprint magnet. Other than that no complaints.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
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Normally 18 months?. I would think the GPe will get L before the Sony ZU. it was months before we got 4.4, although we did get 4.4.4 very fast
Just bought a second hand for AU$300. This shady guy sold me one with overheat issue. The phone isn't even very hot but it just freezes on me and stuck in boot loop.
BOOT LOOPS, My Favorite Breakfast Cereal!
The reason may well be because of the fact the BEAST is having one of America's favorite breakfast cereals...Boot Loops! After several minutes of this heat is generated in the upper left corner around the camera area. Liken it to running around a track numerous times - it takes a toll on it/you physically.
I've read it on one of the threads several times over the months just after the XZU became available as a GPe. Many new users were trying to root, flash ROM's, and fix the partitions since they're different on the GPe's and their devices suffered the boot loops too.
Download Flashtool, run a TA Backup and then flash a stock .ftf if that's what your looking to do. Providing this device is not HOT. Why would one sell a BEAST of a device with a bad case of the boot loops to begin with? Better yet why on earth would you buy one in that condition? All kinds of flags would've/should've been raised - didn't you even question how it got that way or why it was in that state to begin with?
They have these bad boys are selling for $314.99 at http://www.expansys-usa.com/sony-xperia-z-ultra-c6833-unlocked-lte-16gb-black-251963/ in the United States. Expansys sells internationally direct from the comfort of your own safe and legal hideout. THAT would've been a more prudent thing to do AND you would've gotten a warranty on top of it!
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Hi
I'm thinking about buying this phone, but... with some special details. and I wanted your opinion.
I'm not really looking for a phone, I'm looking to replace my nexus 7 GSM (2012) tablet.
It cannot be something bigger than the N7 (in physical dimensions), it must have 3g connectivity and it has to be an upgrade (better specs).
These requests pretty much clean all the tablets, as only the 7'' and (some) 8'' are small enough and only very few have 3g or 4g.
So I thought of a phablet, and the Z ultra appeared on the search.
I know the screen is smaller, but I don't expect that difference to be a problem. I'll try to find other big phones in a store to compare.
I have a Z1 compact as a phone, and from the looks of it, the Z ultra is exactly the same, only with a bigger screen and battery.
This means the same rom support (cyanogenmod), the same performance (I'm very happy with the Z1 compact on that) and bigger battery and screen for movies and games.
So, am I right, do you think this is a good choice for me?
you can go with the xperia z3 compact tablet as well, that tablet has a sim card slot.
Currently I use it as LTE tablet and it works fine.
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you can go with the xperia z3 compact tablet as well, that tablet has a sim card slot.
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I didn't even know it existed...
It's bigger (yet not too big), faster, has more battery, full CM support... It's also more expensive, but maybe it's worth it.
Thanks! I'll really consider it.
Just to let you know, my ZU hasn't served me that well as a tablet, because 1) the touch panel mis-registers under multi-touch situations, 2) the speaker produces constant buzzing sound and 3) battery life is mediocre for real.
I have a TabPRO 8.4 WiFi, but this thing also has 3G and LTE variants. It might be a bit too big to your taste, but aside from the looks, this tablet is the best I've had my hands on.
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Just to let you know, my ZU hasn't served me that well as a tablet, because 1) the touch panel mis-registers under multi-touch situations, 2) the speaker produces constant buzzing sound and 3) battery life is mediocre for real.
I have a TabPRO 8.4 WiFi, but this thing also has 3G and LTE variants. It might be a bit too big to your taste, but aside from the looks, this tablet is the best I've had my hands on.
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Surprisingly, it's not too big (but it's close to).
Here the biggest problem is the price, the LTE variant is a lot more expensive than the Z ultra or the Z3 tablet compact already mentioned here.
Anyway, thanks for the opinion, the battery life was a concern for me, and it seems it is a problem.
Actually, after that last suggestion I re-checked the prices... and both the tablets presented are much more expensive than the Z ultra...
Even with the spec difference and the possible battery problem, it's still the one I think I'll choose.
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Surprisingly, it's not too big (but it's close to).
Here the biggest problem is the price, the LTE variant is a lot more expensive than the Z ultra or the Z3 tablet compact already mentioned here.
Anyway, thanks for the opinion, the battery life was a concern for me, and it seems it is a problem.
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Strange, TabPRO 8.4 retails for about the same price as Z3TC here. Also, most of my devices are bought second-hand, and in the cases of ZU and TabPRO, they cost me ~$125 and ~$190 respectively, while Z3TC can go up to $250+ (yes, used - absurdly pricey).
To me the extra price made quite a difference - aside from the looks, TabPRO gives me a much more comfortable tablet experience and fits snugly in my small carry bag.
There are indeed very few devices in the price range of ZU that can match its specs and screen, and for that it is a unicorn I don't actually want to let go of... But the small problems mentioned in the last post proved more than annoying for me. YMMV, as always.
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You should compare Z Ultra with 7" LTE tablet like Nexus 7 or Asus ME572CL.
CPU is far superior.
Nexus 7 does not support memory card (ZU can take 128GB)
ME572CL has locked (not unlockable) bootloader
Don't forget Z Ultra can be used as phone when needed.
Xperia Z Ultra is great in terms of build quality and speed.
But if you are looking into alternatives, if you just want tablet (not phone) you may look at Asus or Lenovo line of products.
Also, you may look at Motorola Nexus 6. Now that new Nexus phones are announced previous Nexus prices are dropping. It is a great phone, large screen, and with the Android 6.0 it works better than before (according to several user feedbacks).
Good Luck!
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Xperia Z Ultra is great in terms of build quality and speed.
But if you are looking into alternatives, if you just want tablet (not phone) you may look at Asus or Lenovo line of products.
Also, you may look at Motorola Nexus 6. Now that new Nexus phones are announced previous Nexus prices are dropping. It is a great phone, large screen, and with the Android 6.0 it works better than before (according to several user feedbacks).
Good Luck!
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Be aware the Intel X3 based tablet is NOT rootable, and the performance is poor (only 7000 Quadrant).
My beloved Z Ultra died two weeks ago and I’m still inconsolable. So I looked at what Sony has to offer presently and the XA Ultra with its 6.0” screen seemed like the closest thing to it. Well, let’s just say the XA Ultra has done little to alleviate my pain and sorrow.
If any Z Ultra owner is considering the XA Ultra, I poster a review here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xa-ultra/how-to/xa-ultra-impressions-t3468894
Interesting review. It verifies what I suspected and essentially knew when the XA Ultra came out: It just can't replace a Z Ultra.
Anyone looking for a replacement should consider the Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra, Huawei/Honor Note 8, Lenovo Phab2 Pro or the Xiaomi Mi Max. They are proper 'Ultra replacements' and should be on the shortlist.
It won't ever give anymore a Sony Phone which can replace a Z Ultra fully
The Z Ultra idea came from Sony to do something very revolutionary, this wasn't 100% perfect executed by Sony on Z Ultra like the just 3000mAh battery or the bad cam so it became a flop
So it's understandable that Sony does do these Ultras for the special people but that's not their main target phone
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Interesting some people who haven't used an XA Ultra writing it off, having never tried it... XA Ultra is what it is, a midrange 6" phone, so will never compete with what the Z Ultra was at release. But for today, with the options available, if you want worldwide LTE, it's one of the best options and presents many improvements over the Z Ultra. The alternatives mentioned above are so far either not delivered or don't deliver usable LTE for large parts of the world.
I really wonder when 'LTE' became the most important aspect of a device, more important than anything else such as hardware etc?
It sounds like 'LTE' is so important that it makes up for a MediaTek Helio P10 with Snapdragon 800 level performance and hardware that isn't a too much of an 'upgrade' from the Ultra, beside the camera.
The XA Ultra is very easy to dismiss just by looking at what it offers:
1. Smaller display size than the Ultra (itself a dealbreaker).
2. Similar CPU performance (i.e. no step forward since 2013...).
3. MediaTek (forget about ROMs and the Open Devices program).
4. Lower build quality than the Ultra.
5. Low storage and RAM for a 2016 device.
6. Price is similar to more powerful devices from other brands.
Pluses would be 'official Marshmallow' (I don't consider that too much of a benefit in a world of ROMs) and far better camera than the Ultra. The rest? So-so.
A device such as the Xiaomi Mi Max or Huawei/Honor Note 8 or Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra and the Lenovo Phab2 Pro offer substantial improvements on all areas in comparison with the Ultra and is the natural choice for anyone looking for a replacement.
Getting the XA Ultra over any of those, using the 'LTE argument' is downright silly actually. Even if another device would only get EDGE data I would take it over the XA Ultra as long as the rest is top-notch and then solve the connectivity in a different way.
I just can't see how LTE can 'compensate' the MediaTek Helio P10, smaller screen, lesser build quality, low amount of storage and RAM etc and the pricetag.... If LTE is that critical I rather buy the Xperia XZ. Far more powerful than the XA Ultra and the screen size doesn't matter, it is a downgrade anyway. I would also rather pick up the Z3TC SGP621 over the XA Ultra.
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I really wonder when 'LTE' became the most important aspect of a device, more important than anything else such as hardware etc?
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Yet again, you assume that just because a feature is less important to you, it's less important to everyone else. Fast data is the most important feature of a phone to me. I also want a big screen. Would prefer 6.4, and would prefer latest Snapdragon, but of course those things aren't all available right now on one phone.
It's patently clear you haven't used the phone if you don't think the hardware is an upgrade, perhaps you should try one out first? Note that camera isn't the only clear upgrade for XA over Z.
I also love the fact that your "Getting the XA Ultra over any of those" argument includes two phones that aren't available yet.
I have fast HSPA+ here and haven't noticed any problems with HD streaming (YouTube etc) due to any particular 'slowness' of the connection. I typically reach around 15-16 Mbit/s HSPA+ and that is also why I can accept some 'compromise' on the LTE side of things in exchange for a better device.
The optimum device has 20-40 LTE bands, obviously (it would be the best solution since it would cover everything) but the reality is different. Just skipping devices due to LTE bands when no other options are available (I don't consider 'keep using the Ultra' as the best option anymore).
I fully agree that the best solution is a lot of LTE bands, Snapdragon 8xx and a 6.44-7" display with a lot of RAM and storage. As it is now, those things aren't available (yet) and compromises has to be made.
My key priorities are certainly powerful hardware, 6.44-7" display and excellent battery life (8-13 hours SOT as an upgrade from the Ultra 5-6 hours SOT). The XA Ultra is just not even close to be an interesting 'upgrade' and this Amazon link says it all:
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-...id=1466713400&sr=8-6&keywords=xperia+xa+ultra
For $329 I can buy the XA Ultra with 3GB RAM (same as the Z3TC in 2014), 16GB storage (same as the Ultra in 2013), 2700 mAh battery (smaller than the 3000 mAh in the Ultra) and a MediaTek Helio P10 offering similar performance as the Snapdragon 800. Yes, the XA Ultra has seriously improved cameras and it can also be argued that it has Marshmallow out of the box (an improvement over 5.1.1 in the Ultra).
It doesn't participate in the Open Devices Program, though (thanks, MediaTek) and even if its stock ROM is 'faster' than the Ultra 5.1.1 - the Ultra has no problem keeping up using something like PAC, Sony Concept ROM or one of the MM or Nougat builds. So buying the XA Ultra because the stock ROM is 'faster' isn't a too good idea.
For approximately $330-344 I can buy a Xiaomi Mi Max offering substantial upgrades in comparison with the XA Ultra and the Ultra:
4GB RAM (3GB in the XA Ultra, 2GB Ultra), 128GB storage (16GB XA Ultra and Ultra), Snapdragon 652 (80K AnTuTu in comparison with the 40-45K of the XA Ultra and Ultra), same display size as the XZU and 0.44" bigger than the XA Ultra and so forth. Its battery is 4850 mAh compared to 2700 (XA Ultra) and 3000 (Ultra).
The only thing the XA Ultra has to offer is.... LTE and a camera that seems to be good. 'It runs Marshmallow' or 'the Sony ROM has a lot of improvements over Ultra 5.1.1' doesn't sound like compelling reasons to buy it.
Buying the XA Ultra as an 'upgrade' from the Ultra, citing 'LTE frequencies' as a reason why it becomes 'better' than a device with way more powerful hardware isn't a particularly good idea.
I just don't see how the XA Ultra can be something worth buying when comparing with the competitors. If we accept downgrading the display size, then a lot of options are available around the price point of $330 and they are way more powerful (a Snapdragon 820 can be fitted if the budget is stretched a couple of tens).
Making a statement such as 'the XA Ultra beats the Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra, Huawei/Honor Note 8, Lenovo Phab2 Pro and Xiaomi Mi Max because it has LTE bands x, y and z' sounds really... backwards. It is like arguing that 'this computer with Intel Celeron and Intel HD4000 beats this powerful gaming rig because it is connected to a 100 Mbit/s broadband line while the gaming rig has a 10 Mbit/s line....
I always compare with competitors and I am just unable to see any reason to buy the XA Ultra in comparison with the other options. Buying it because.... it is a Sony Xperia and it has LTE frequency x, y and z just doesn't feel particularly logical.
If Sony give as a proper XZU successor (Snapdragon 821 or faster, 4-8GB RAM, 64-128GB storage, 4500-500 mAh battery, 2K 6.44" display, XZ camera, microSD or UFS card slot and so on I will be all over it. But getting the XA Ultra 'instead' because of LTE and 'it is what Sony offers' rather than switching brands (until Sony get their acts together) isn't logical either, I am afraid.
Hell, how many words do you need to say you don't really like that phone (the one that you've never used)? A full page of mostly nonsense, basically: happy to step back 5 years on data speeds, not happy to lose 0.4" of screen; but if you are losing 0.4", you may as well lose 1.2". Laughable. I hope you're happy with your cheap phone, it works for you and the trade-offs you're happy to make, but there's no need for lengthy tedious diatribes on why everyone else is wrong.
Making a statement such as 'the XA Ultra beats the Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra, Huawei/Honor Note 8, Lenovo Phab2 Pro and Xiaomi Mi Max because it has LTE bands x, y and z'
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No-one apart from you has spouted this idiocy. We all have preferences.
Edit: and no-one knows what would beat the Asus or Lenovo, because so far they are imaginary.
Buying the XA Ultra as an 'upgrade' from the Ultra, citing 'LTE frequencies' as a reason why it becomes 'better' than a device with way more powerful hardware
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You want to tell me where the Z Ultra has "way more powerful hardware?" Again, as a non-user of the XA Ultra? It has a slightly bigger screen and a slightly bigger battery. Way more powerful?
The Xiaomi Mi Max is a serious upgrade from the Ultra - especially the 4/128 version. It is simply a better choice than the XA Ultra for those looking for a replacement.
Double the amount of RAM (in comparison with the Ultra).
Decent CPU upgrade (from 40-46K AnTuTu to 80K AnTuTu).
Same display size (wider brightness range).
Way more storage (128GB instead of 16GB).
Excellent battery life (12-13 hours SOT in comparison with 5-6 hours SOT).
So in what way is the XA Ultra a 'better' upgrade path for an Ultra owner than the Mi Max and the other options?
Asus has started deliveries of the Zenfone 3 Ultra and it is another interesting upgrade.
The XA Ultra is simply a disappointing device from Sony and they could do way better. Making a 'XZ Ultra' - i.e. a 6" version of the XZ would be a way better approach.
It is also interesting with attempts to defend the XA Ultra, especially in comparison with a device such as the Mi Max considering the MediaTek CPU and everything. There are absolutely nothing 'premium' about it and trying to use arguments such as 'enjoy your cheap phone' when defending the XA Ultra doesn't sound particularly right.
Edit: The statement of 'way more powerful hardware' referred to the Mi Max and the other new phablets.
I would like to ask you this simple question:
In what ways are the Mi Max (and the other options) NOT a good upgrade from the XZU - while the XA Ultra is?
My Mi Max is doing everything my Ultra does, it has all strong points of the XZU and it improves on the weak ones (RAM, storage, camera, adds fingerprint scanner and provide a decent CPU speed boost). What 'trade-offs' do you see with the Mi Max?
Yep, sure, those phones are way better for running Antutu, knock yourself out with that. What you can't seem to get through your head (I suspect you never will), is that this is a phone and mobile data device. The fact that it gets better scores doesn't matter at all. The fact that it doesn't have decent data speeds does. To me. Yeah, you're impressed by different brands of chips and scores, enjoy. I won't hamstring myself with crap data on a mobile device. That's why it's better. For me and others.
You appear unable to grasp that not everyone wants the same thing from their phone that you do. It's like conversing with an infant.
Asus has started deliveries of the Zenfone 3 Ultra
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Where? Not the US or the UK. I've only had one Asus phone, it was awful and only lasted a few months, but maybe they've improved.
A phablet should fulfill the following requirements in order to be a worthwhile upgrade from the XZU:
1. Faster CPU/GPU
2. Increased RAM (4GB or more)
3. Increased storage (32GB or more)
4. Similar screen size (or slightly bigger - up to 7")
5. Run a newer Android version out of the box (6.x, 7.x)
6. Decent developer support and ROMs such as AICP, RR or the Sony Concept ROM etc.
7. Adequate cellular connectivity (HSPA+ minimum, LTE good to have)
8. Improved battery life (8 hours or more SOT, heavy use)
9. MicroSD or UFS for expandable storage
10. Adequate camera (i.e. better than the XZU pretty atrocious unit)
I.e: An 'Ultra II' simply put - offering the same basic properties as the XZU while improving the weaknesses (especially RAM and storage).
The Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra, Huawei/Honor Note 8, Lenovo Phab2 Pro and Xiaomi Mi Max fulfill those requirements - albeit with some question marks surrounding ROM development for the Kirin (Huawei).
All four are decent upgrades from the XZU, offering the same basic properties, while improving on the weaknesses.
I have never experienced a 'speed problem' with my C6802 - it typically provide stable 15-16 Mbit/s download speeds and even if my C6833 is faster I have no problem with downloading files, doing HD streaming etc on such a speed. When I use data plans with 2GB caps, speed doesn't exactly matter for the simple reason that you don't do heavy use on such a limited plan anyway. When I have my unlimited data SIM in, getting a stable 15-16 Mbit/s over HSPA+ is.... good enough even for HD streaming.
Having a fast CPU, more RAM, more storage and so on brings tangible benefits and especially the storage part was an issue on the Ultra. Hardware when paired with a decent ROM is simply the key aspects of a device - LTE just can't make up for 16GB of storage or a MediaTek Helio P10.
I buy devices as 'mobile computers' and prioritize hardware and software (the latter is a matter of custom ROMs, I just don't care for stock ROMs). The XZU is an excellent mobile computer and the Xiaomi Mi Max is even better because it keeps all strengths of the Ultra down to the RR ROM and pairs them with improvement of the weaknesses.
The XA Ultra has some extra LTE bands, yes - but is a weak performer in all other areas, especially storage and CPU. And those two areas matters - not because of AnTuTu but because of more demanding apps and games coming out. It is reasonable to expect serious improvements in performance on a device three years newer than the one being replaced.
Even better would be Snapdragon 820, 821 or the upcoming '830'. Less than a 650? Not good enough simply put. Same with the storage - 16GB has been small on the XZU, buying a new device with the same internal storage makes no sense - my storage problem would continue. Using the microSD as a 'solution' (i.e. moving appdata) isn't optimum in 2016 when there are several devices with 32-256GB internal PLUS microSD.
The Xiaomi Mi Max is simply an excellent Ultra replacement.
I give up. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it think.
I just wanted to say that unfortunately my screen broke and it became unresponsive to touch so I was contemplating on other phones but I couldn't find a z ultra replacement I thought of the Asus Zen 3 ultra but it is too extensive so I bought me another z ultra to replace my broken z ultra there's no other like it
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It's not necessary to think too much in order to realize this simple fact: XA Ultra isn't a proper XZU replacement compared to other alternatives including the XZU itself.
You would need to develop that capability first.
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I just wanted to say that unfortunately my screen broke and it became unresponsive to touch so I was contemplating on other phones but I couldn't find a z ultra replacement I thought of the Asus Zen 3 ultra but it is too extensive so I bought me another z ultra to replace my broken z ultra there's no other like it
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The XZU is still a beast so great choice. It seems like Asus is starting to drop prices for the Zenfone 3 Ultra in comparison with some of the sky high ones listed before ($699).
Let's hope there will be a 8xx based 6.44-7" phablet next year - preferably sharing hardware with a flagship as well (lower development cost).
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Perhaps you could describe the thought process leading up to the conclusion that the XA Ultra is a 'better' XZU replacement than other options... I still see a 16GB MediaTek device there.
Edit: Or is the XA Ultra a better device because of:
1. It's a Sony
2. It has LTE 800/900 etc
3. It runs Sony stock Marshmallow
4. The camera is better than [insert device]
It is a bit hard to claim that the XA Ultra has great hardware or performance paired with excellent storage - thus making it a great upgrade path for XZU owners....
Well I did think hard on that asus zen 3 ultra, but the quality, brand and looks of the z ultra it's what brought me back to it. I know that's it's getting old on it's hardware but still capable for the most task at hand besides that price it's also affordable compare to the zen 3 ultra, may be some day there will be a xperia z ultra replacement. I was hopping on the xa ultra but what a dissepiment from Sony their loss my z ultra.
I've hung around for ages waiting for a decent z ultra from Sony,but it seems unlikely now that it will ever happen.So I took a deep breath and looked at the competition,and it seemed to come down to the mi max or the honour note 8.Went with the honour note 8 mainly because of the better specs and also the superior screen.Was pondering waiting for the lenovo phab pro,but I'm glad I went for the note 8,the Kenobi looks a bit chunky width wise.Aesthetically the old Sony wins out.And I lose waterproofing/NFC and 4g on my particular network 02,apart from that,the note 8 really is a huge upgrade on the Sony.Camera,2k amoled screen,ram,storage,fast charging etc etc.So far-so happy!
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I just wanted to say that unfortunately my screen broke and it became unresponsive to touch so I was contemplating on other phones but I couldn't find a z ultra replacement I thought of the Asus Zen 3 ultra but it is too extensive so I bought me another z ultra to replace my broken z ultra there's no other like it
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I have a 6806 and a 6833, both with broken displays. I decided to buy a display assemly which cost 45€ and another 45€ to have it fitted. With less than 100€ I now have the c6806 working again which I will use in the americas for the LTE bands used on that side of the world. I was sad to see handset like the ZU setting in a box not working. I do love this phone and I'm very happy to have invested on a new dispaly . You certainly are not going to get a phone for less than 100€ with those specs...:good:
The Zenfone 3 Ultra would be a worthy replacement for the Sony XZU. Looking at the xda forum for it, but there's currently no bootloader unlock, and not even root. The honor note 8 has root and bootloader unlock, but you do need to put some effort in to tweak and tune it to make it work well.
The Xiaomi mi max has a fairly active hacking community, so I think that's the best choice to replace our much loved Sony
I didn't mention the Lenovo, because supplies dried up and was only on sale in USA.