Z5C Camera limited shutter speed - Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys,
Is the 1/10 shutter speed available in manual camera the longest possible on this phone?
I know that on Z3c it was something like 1/8...not a big difference but it's there.
Did anyone find any detailed specs about the camera on the internet because i didn't?

I attached a screenshot for you guys to know what i'm talking about.

fratzika said:
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What app is this?
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The app is "Manual Camera".

That's is Camera2 API Limit.
"Is the 1/10 shutter speed available in manual camera the longest possible on this phone?"
That's is a Camera2 API limit...
Galaxy S6 does has a 10sec on to 5.1.1 (but in a 6.0.1 does has a OOTB of Stock Camera about a 10s ,1/10s it's at same limit shutter on 5.0.2 as Z5c)
URL for Info: camerafv5.com/pages/manual-camera-controls-table.php
But maybe maximum shutter speed it's a 1/4000s right...? [But I can be mistake...]

How?
Isn't there a way to write new drivers for the camera so that we can get longer shutter speed? It would be great to have 30-60 seconds

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S5 Camera manual shutter settings - AVAILABLE!

I've seen a lot of posts bemoaning the fact the S5 camera has no manual shutter speed settings, there's a solution....
CameraFV5 offers manual speeds and a lot more besides
Also has a companion Video app CinemaFV5
Both are available on Google Play.
Oh, and I have no connection with the developer, I'm just a happy user....
I can confirm this as a photographer. FV5 is wonderful. Now we just need a better CMOS in the phone....
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sorry to disappoint u ive been testing this app since long time and manual shutter control never worked :/
Works fine for me...
I;m not sure what's happening with yours but it works fine for me, including the custom shutter speeds...just checked again with 5 and 20 second exposures...definitely working..
Just given the app a try. Manual shutter control did work. Will give this a play, thanks for posting.
kiwi_radical said:
I've seen a lot of posts bemoaning the fact the S5 camera has no manual shutter speed settings, there's a solution....
CameraFV5 offers manual speeds and a lot more besides
Also has a companion Video app CinemaFV5
Both are available on Google Play.
Oh, and I have no connection with the developer, I'm just a happy user....
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but manual shutter is not working, also on s4 and s3 it did not worked. no matter what exposure time you set it is always standard time, if i set 10 seconds image should be too bright but its almost black like in stock camera (dark room)
Manual shutter doesnt work
yahyoh said:
sorry to disappoint u ive been testing this app since long time and manual shutter control never worked :/
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I agree with Yahyoh as well. Doesnt work on my G900F S5 as well. In fact, it if I select, say, 1 second shutter, the shutter appears to remain open for 1 second but there is no difference on picture quality.
Ya doesn't work. Manual speed doesn't really affect shutter times. The output is also limited to 2 MP. Would be nice to have a real option like in one plus one camera.
There's no shutter right now..
This thread might be one month old but still shows up on top of google when looking for samsung camera shutter speed, so I decided to clear some stuff up.
1. Manual shutter speed means that you can control how long your shutter is opened and thus affectt amount of light comming into it (= makes making night photos easier but might require a tripod).
2. Google added new camera api with Android 5.0. This API allows for manual shutter and shutter control and RAW file saving, HOWEVER phone maker must still update camera firmware for it to work.
3. Only few phones with Android older than 5 had those manual options, im speaking about those huge camera-phone hybrids like samsung galaxy camera for instance. So if you do not have android 5+ then there is NO real shutter control or focus control on your phone.
Now lets go to FV which is wonderful piece of software:
1. It is first android app to support Lolipops camera features, however for those features to work camera firmware must be upgraded.
2. Almost no one upgrade their camera firmware as of yet, FV manual options work only on Nexus5 and 6 at the moment. And this is a huge letdown and dissapointement. Another dissapointement is apathy from android community which does not seem what a great camera features they are missing because of oems lazyness.
3. If you do not have updated camera firmware then FV will enable a 'false' shutter mode, which is just capturing images from screen preview (thats why theres 2mp or so size limit) and then mixing them up together using image processing techniques - this is nowhere near how real shutter works.
4. Only time when you have a working shutter and manual focus is when you have android 5.0 phone with camera firmware that supports those changes, which are only few right now - nexus 5 and 6, maybe one or two other but for sure not our galaxy s5 ( I have s5 with official 5.0 and it does not have those features)..
I'm saying this from ex-windows phone user perspective, who is really dissapointed in how android develops at the moment. I've had windows phone and they have those features for at least 2 years now. (But then Nokia/MS used to practice dirty tricks as well, like in order to make new phones more appealing they reduce max/min possible shutter speeds on older phones).
kubmar said:
This thread might be one month old but still shows up on top of google when looking for samsung camera shutter speed, so I decided to clear some stuff up.
1. Manual shutter speed means that you can control how long your shutter is opened and thus affectt amount of light comming into it (= makes making night photos easier but might require a tripod).
2. Google added new camera api with Android 5.0. This API allows for manual shutter and shutter control and RAW file saving, HOWEVER phone maker must still update camera firmware for it to work.
3. Only few phones with Android older than 5 had those manual options, im speaking about those huge camera-phone hybrids like samsung galaxy camera for instance. So if you do not have android 5+ then there is NO real shutter control or focus control on your phone.
Now lets go to FV which is wonderful piece of software:
1. It is first android app to support Lolipops camera features, however for those features to work camera firmware must be upgraded.
2. Almost no one upgrade their camera firmware as of yet, FV manual options work only on Nexus5 and 6 at the moment. And this is a huge letdown and dissapointement. Another dissapointement is apathy from android community which does not seem what a great camera features they are missing because of oems lazyness.
3. If you do not have updated camera firmware then FV will enable a 'false' shutter mode, which is just capturing images from screen preview (thats why theres 2mp or so size limit) and then mixing them up together using image processing techniques - this is nowhere near how real shutter works.
4. Only time when you have a working shutter and manual focus is when you have android 5.0 phone with camera firmware that supports those changes, which are only few right now - nexus 5 and 6, maybe one or two other but for sure not our galaxy s5 ( I have s5 with official 5.0 and it does not have those features)..
I'm saying this from ex-windows phone user perspective, who is really dissapointed in how android develops at the moment. I've had windows phone and they have those features for at least 2 years now. (But then Nokia/MS used to practice dirty tricks as well, like in order to make new phones more appealing they reduce max/min possible shutter speeds on older phones).
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Thanks for these usefull info
Does anyone have any method to enable the shutter speed manual and the manual focus?any mod, rom, flash or something?
kubmar said:
This thread might be one month old but still shows up on top of google when looking for samsung camera shutter speed, so I decided to clear some stuff up.
1. Manual shutter speed means that you can control how long your shutter is opened and thus affectt amount of light comming into it (= makes making night photos easier but might require a tripod).
2. Google added new camera api with Android 5.0. This API allows for manual shutter and shutter control and RAW file saving, HOWEVER phone maker must still update camera firmware for it to work.
3. Only few phones with Android older than 5 had those manual options, im speaking about those huge camera-phone hybrids like samsung galaxy camera for instance. So if you do not have android 5+ then there is NO real shutter control or focus control on your phone.
Now lets go to FV which is wonderful piece of software:
1. It is first android app to support Lolipops camera features, however for those features to work camera firmware must be upgraded.
2. Almost no one upgrade their camera firmware as of yet, FV manual options work only on Nexus5 and 6 at the moment. And this is a huge letdown and dissapointement. Another dissapointement is apathy from android community which does not seem what a great camera features they are missing because of oems lazyness.
3. If you do not have updated camera firmware then FV will enable a 'false' shutter mode, which is just capturing images from screen preview (thats why theres 2mp or so size limit) and then mixing them up together using image processing techniques - this is nowhere near how real shutter works.
4. Only time when you have a working shutter and manual focus is when you have android 5.0 phone with camera firmware that supports those changes, which are only few right now - nexus 5 and 6, maybe one or two other but for sure not our galaxy s5 ( I have s5 with official 5.0 and it does not have those features)..
I'm saying this from ex-windows phone user perspective, who is really dissapointed in how android develops at the moment. I've had windows phone and they have those features for at least 2 years now. (But then Nokia/MS used to practice dirty tricks as well, like in order to make new phones more appealing they reduce max/min possible shutter speeds on older phones).
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I was reading up for my wife's GS5, I tired the app before reading above comment on my Nokia X2 DS. Custom shutter seems to work I tried with 5 seconds and 10 seconds.
jahanzzzeb said:
I was reading up for my wife's GS5, I tired the app before reading above comment on my Nokia X2 DS. Custom shutter seems to work I tried with 5 seconds and 10 seconds.
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but you cant make 1/8000s
its not real shutter speed, with proper shutter speed control as in a DSLR, the shutter opens and stays open for the time set, In FV5 is just takes a series of pictures very fast and stacks them, amounting to no difference in exposure, just blurriness.
So a 5 sec exposure in a very poorly lit environment still comes out near pitch black instead of properly exposed

Questions about Z5 Compact Camera

I am considering this device for my next phone but had a couple of questions about the camera. It is important to me to be able to take pictures in quick succession (like taking multiple photographs of moving objects etc.).
1. On some of the other competing phones, I've noticed the ability to take a bunch of photos in quick succession, with no lag (the phone is ready to take the next picture immediately after taking a picture). I have read on a couple of sites that after a picture is taken, the Z5/Z5C takes a second or two to save it, so that the camera is not immediately available for the next photo. For those who have experience with this phone, what has been your experience?
2. Is the camera experience on the Compact similar to that on the Z5 or are there any differences?
Thank you!
You can't take pictures in quick succession like that sadly. It takes a while :/
Thanks. Is the lag true of all modes (superior auto and manual) and all resolutions (8 my and 23 mp)?
Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
VJCR said:
Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
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You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Edit: I made a quick video, so u can check it out while not having this device (yet?)
https://youtu.be/aP8dBfkU6QA
VJCR said:
Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
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I think Photo Analyzer created lagging in older and slower xperia but I don't found any different yet on Z5c before or after disabled it. I never use stock album(even disabled it...lol) probably Photo Analyzer won't mess me.
23MP is slower than expected but 8MP is fast(still slightly slower than my S6 but close to it). You'll need to switch to Sport Mode to shoot moving objects, so only 8MP available to you because scene mode limited to 8MP.
langeveld024 said:
You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Thanks for the video! In practice, do you go in and examine all 60 photos and delete the ones that you don't need?
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TheEndHK said:
I think Photo Analyzer created lagging in older and slower xperia but I don't found any different yet on Z5c before or after disabled it. I never use stock album(even disabled it...lol) probably Photo Analyzer won't mess me.
23MP is slower than expected but 8MP is fast(still slightly slower than my S6 but close to it). You'll need to switch to Sport Mode to shoot moving objects, so only 8MP available to you because scene mode limited to 8MP.
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Thanks for the reply! Two questions:
1. When you talk about 8MP being slightly slower than the S6 - in practice, let's say to photograph my dog, is this sufficiently fast enough? Is there a clear wait time after a photo is taken before I take the next one?
2. In Sport mode, is the lag negligible enough that I can shoot multiple back-to-back photos?
Thanks!
VJCR said:
Thanks for the reply! Two questions:
1. When you talk about 8MP being slightly slower than the S6 - in practice, let's say to photograph my dog, is this sufficiently fast enough? Is there a clear wait time after a photo is taken before I take the next one?
2. In Sport mode, is the lag negligible enough that I can shoot multiple back-to-back photos?
Thanks!
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1. 8MP enough no clear wait time, 23MP a bit harder
2. sport mode only 8MP
TheEndHK said:
1. 8MP enough no clear wait time, 23MP a bit harder
2. sport mode only 8MP
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Thank you!
In SuperAuto or Manual, you can take fast photos. sort of. If it has to do an autofocus, you have to wait. However if you take successive photos without the focus needing to change much, it is fairly fast. Like less half a second. However, if I tap as fast as I can, it can't keep up. Maybe 1 photo for every three taps.
Timeshift burst cant take photos very fast (8MP). However its a little annoying. You have to switch to that "mode" (basically start that app) if you want to do a timeshift photo. When you are in that mode, I think you are constantly taking photos. Once you hit the "shutter" it gives you -15 +15 photos or so. You can select which one you want, but when I goto the gallery, they're all still in there. It's not as convenient as on the iphone for example. On there, you just hold down the shutter and it takes photos for however long you hold it down. Then you choose what you want and the rest are deleted.
eng3 said:
Timeshift burst cant take photos very fast (8MP). However its a little annoying. You have to switch to that "mode" (basically start that app) if you want to do a timeshift photo. When you are in that mode, I think you are constantly taking photos. Once you hit the "shutter" it gives you -15 +15 photos or so. You can select which one you want, but when I goto the gallery, they're all still in there. It's not as convenient as on the iphone for example. On there, you just hold down the shutter and it takes photos for however long you hold it down. Then you choose what you want and the rest are deleted.
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In older xperia like Z1/Z2, Timeshift burst only takes 1920x1080 photo resolution(2MP). Is that increase to 8MP now on Z5c?
VJCR said:
langeveld024 said:
You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Thanks for the video! In practice, do you go in and examine all 60 photos and delete the ones that you don't need?
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Yes I use it for thunderstorm lightnings especially. You can save 1 (or more) of those 60 shots separately and afterwards delete the timeshift pictures.
You can also review the timeshift pictures via stock album app.
However, if u decide to use another album app, you'll be a bit annoyed by every timeshift picture shows 60 pics that's why I delete the timeshift pics after saving the best 1 or 2 separately.
BTW, just made another video of an timeshift shot of a thunderstorm lightning I did last year with my old Xperia Z (C6603) https://youtu.be/ROmoWD_c9hM
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coming from a Lumia 930.. this z5c camera is.. terrible.
- Really slow shot burst (1 photo takes more than 1 second to save)
- When shooting at 23 mpx do yourself a favor and never, NEVER zoom it to 100%. Its only TERRIBLE.
- Low light and you can't use any flash? Don't try to take any photo at all. its just crap.
- Camera app "manual mode" is not manual at all. Changing the SCN (scene mode, night, portrait, food) is NOT manual by any mean
- Apps like Manual Camera (with all the real manual controls) just crash when you try to set iso, shutter time or manual focus (i read somewhere its caused by sony camera firmware, i don't know if its the real reason)
- When Camera is on the phone gets hot REALLY quickly, otherwise is always cold as ice.
- Timeshift video app is awesome
so.. yeah, decent camera, but i still cry when i see my old Lumia930's photos
HypeZ85 said:
coming from a Lumia 930.. this z5c camera is.. terrible.
- Really slow shot burst (1 photo takes more than 1 second to save)
- When shooting at 23 mpx do yourself a favor and never, NEVER zoom it to 100%. Its only TERRIBLE.
- Low light and you can't use any flash? Don't try to take any photo at all. its just crap.
- Camera app "manual mode" is not manual at all. Changing the SCN (scene mode, night, portrait, food) is NOT manual by any mean
- Apps like Manual Camera (with all the real manual controls) just crash when you try to set iso, shutter time or manual focus (i read somewhere its caused by sony camera firmware, i don't know if its the real reason)
- When Camera is on the phone gets hot REALLY quickly, otherwise is always cold as ice.
- Timeshift video app is awesome
so.. yeah, decent camera, but i still cry when i see my old Lumia930's photos
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I think the current build is beta and got very high expectation on 6.0, if Sony doesn't fix the camera I'll consider to sell it out. But other than the camera, the screen, waterproof(no usb flag), stereo speaker are all real upgraded when compared to older Z1c/Z3c.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/general/disappointed-z5-camera-pictures-quality-t3217766/page82
There are a couple of guys on Z5 board keep repeating Z5 camera all around better than S6, G4/V10 or Lumia which made me laugh out though.

Camera manual mode isn't really

Has anyone noticed that you can set iso in manual mode and then modify shutter speed and boom iso is set to auto again? How can I have need control? Love the size and weight of this phone but camera is kind of weak compared to s7.
Yes, I would like to adjust ISO and shutter speed togheter and separately, but as far as I know this is not possible. I hope they can adjust it in future release.....
Manual Camera lets you adjust both of them independently, but you can only take pictures up to 8 mp. I'm really no too familiar with camera APIs and such (or photography for that matter) so I don't know if this has any implications, but I would say that picture quality is very similar otherwise. If you don't mind the resolution and price ($3) it's not too bad. Here's a comparison: Stock / Manual Camera
I would say the stock camera does a good job of setting the ISO on its own, but I understand the need for manual controls.
No it's not! Even in 3 mp if you set for example 50 iso and than set shutter speed to for example 1/50 and go back to setting...... voilĂ  iso is in auto mode again
cingolat said:
No it's not! Even in 3 mp if you set for example 50 iso and than set shutter speed to for example 1/50 and go back to setting...... voilĂ  iso is in auto mode again
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Manual Camera the app, not manual mode in the stock camera
Play Store
I also tried Camera FV-5 because I used it on my Nexus 4, and though it does support manual control of ISO and shutter speed (still with the same 8mp cap,) focus breaks completely when the shutter speed is set low which makes in unusable.

Camera and camera2api issues

Hi guys, i have recently enabled camera2api string with build.prop editor, so i tried some camera apps that have manual mode like Footej, Proshot and Manual camera. The main issue is that the maximum shutter speed that i can have is 1sec on Footej, how is this even possible? I'd like to take long exposure low ISO photos in the night, but it's not possible. Is there any setting to unlock? It's a pity to have that camera without this feature. I hope that someone could solve this, thanks and sorry for my english
nobody knows anything?
I'd love to know if long exposure is possible also

Moto G5s Plus Camera Shutter speed?

Hello,
Is there any possibility to increase Camera shutter speed to 16 seconds or 30 seconds for Moto G5s Plus (India).
Running Android Oreo 8.1.0
API 2 support: Level 3 available. (But max shutter speed goes to 1/4s in stock camera and another app it goes to 1/3s.
-V
G5s Plus 16s - 32s camera shutter, possible?
Guys,
anyone, any idea?
If after rooting camera shutter can be customized or support open camera or other camera app?
I see some gcam apks, but unsure if shutter speed can be increase or not? (Is there any possibility to increase Camera shutter speed to 16 seconds or 30 seconds)?
If yes, please share some info.
Vinod41 said:
Hello,
Is there any possibility to increase Camera shutter speed to 16 seconds or 30 seconds for Moto G5s Plus (India).
Running Android Oreo 8.1.0
API 2 support: Level 3 available. (But max shutter speed goes to 1/4s in stock camera and another app it goes to 1/3s.
-V
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