"Android OS" battery drain - Sony Xperia X Questions & Answers

Hi,
I just bought a Xperia X, and I have a battery drain issue. I made different tests, but can't find why it is draining my battery
Yesterday, I unplugged my phone, and let it 24 hours without using it. Here is the battery stats (see attach file). As you can see, the "Android OS" drained all the battery.
Any idea ?

I wouldn't even consider it a problem yet if it's less than a week/month old. It's a brand new device at the very least it'll need a week's worth battery of cycles(charge to 100% then discharge to 0%) before it'll get anywhere near its proper battery life, how's it set up is Data,Bluetooth ect always on, is the background data turned off also How is it used ect.
I'd first try a hard reset holding the power button and vol up till it vibrates(same as removing the battery) and clear play services data if it's still the same after a day or so try a factory reset or software repair via Sony pcc either way I wouldn't worry too much yet

I finally found the origin of the battery drain : it was an application ("La Poste") which was locating me permanently. I uninstalled it, and I have no more battery drain.

How's the x other than that, I can't wait for my upgrade next month should have one myself then

Wolfman017 said:
I finally found the origin of the battery drain : it was an application ("La Poste") which was locating me permanently. I uninstalled it, and I have no more battery drain.
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How did you find out?

Wolfman017 said:
I finally found the origin of the battery drain : it was an application ("La Poste") which was locating me permanently. I uninstalled it, and I have no more battery drain.
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battery caliberation

hi
is it required to battery caliberate after flashing new rom?
and when ever i reboot my system either battery jumps from 10% to 30 or more
or becomes less than 10%..
if i should then which app should i use?
any guidnace
plz
TY
No such thing. After you flash a new rom, charge the phone to 100%, turn it off, remove the battery for 30 seconds, replace the battery, turn phone on, enjoy.
Anyone selling you the whole calibration thing is selling you voodoo.
hi
thanks for your reply
plz suggest me best battery app with battery saving feature , suggestion on what we can do with remaining battery , expected full time charge , complete graph or battery usage history by apps?
paid or free , tell me best one
thank you
There's lots of battery apps on Google Play, there's no such thing as the best one, go have a look under the Tools section in Apps (you'll also find some under productivity). Stay away from apps like Juice Defender that claim to save you battery by doing things automatically which you can do yourself in two seconds, these have been proven time & again on XDA to use more juice than they save.
ivl try battery monitor
thank you
No probs ;-)
MistahBungle said:
No such thing. After you flash a new rom, charge the phone to 100%, turn it off, remove the battery for 30 seconds, replace the battery, turn phone on, enjoy.
Anyone selling you the whole calibration thing is selling you voodoo.
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Wouldn't that procedure above be considered calibrating the battery? LOL. J/K. Couldn't resist .
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@up
actually it cannot. this way you only help the system in your phone recognize full capacity of battery (which is not even full because not one battery works at it's full capacity - but it's fullest you will get at this point of your battery life). when it's about calibrating - listen to MistahBungle - it's all voodoo. you cannot calibrate li-ion battery unless you kill it and then revive. by killing it I don't mean depleting it in your phone, because even when phone shows the battery is fully depleted it's really not - there is still some juice in it. you'd have to use e.g. special charger which can drawn juice out of battery and make it really empty. only then your battery is dead and useless. you may revive it by applying cca. 5V but actually it not always works. so you cannot calibrate your battery in home environment.
what you can do is "re-calibrating" so called fuel gauge (description under links given below) and you may also help your system recognize the real state of your battery charge. sometimes it happens that systems readings are wrong and battery is on 85% but system is reading it as 50 or 100%. to help it read battery chip correctly you do the thing MistahBungle so helpfully described. sometimes you even don't have to do it but wait 2-3 charging cycles and system will adjust it's reading itself. by charging cycles I mean charging like from 20-100%. why not from 0%? because even if it's not a real depletion state, li-ion batteries doesn't like the state of being discharged too much.
more on this and lot of other helpfull information you will find here:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
gaeilge said:
@up
actually it cannot. this way you only help the system in your phone recognize full capacity of battery (which is not even full because not one battery works at it's full capacity - but it's fullest you will get at this point of your battery life). when it's about calibrating - listen to MistahBungle - it's all voodoo. you cannot calibrate li-ion battery unless you kill it and then revive. by killing it I don't mean depleting it in your phone, because even when phone shows the battery is fully depleted it's really not - there is still some juice in it. you'd have to use e.g. special charger which can drawn juice out of battery and make it really empty. only then your battery is dead and useless. you may revive it by applying cca. 5V but actually it not always works. so you cannot calibrate your battery in home environment.
what you can do is "re-calibrating" so called fuel gauge (description under links given below) and you may also help your system recognize the real state of your battery charge. sometimes it happens that systems readings are wrong and battery is on 85% but system is reading it as 50 or 100%. to help it read battery chip correctly you do the thing MistahBungle so helpfully described. sometimes you even don't have to do it but wait 2-3 charging cycles and system will adjust it's reading itself. by charging cycles I mean charging like from 20-100%. why not from 0%? because even if it's not a real depletion state, li-ion batteries doesn't like the state of being discharged too much.
more on this and lot of other helpfull information you will find here:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
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read that ..
thank you
and is there any way to stop auto startups of apps?i have around 200apps and most of them i use around once a day or not even once
i use android assistant to manage startup but it does on boot and after some time if i check running apps most of apps will be there running
is there any app to block it running automatically? not just at startup ? full control like anything?
thank you
actually I cannot help with that. I don't use such a software and really don't believe in it. but, the fact is that I do not use so many apps. other fact is that surely there is some useful software that could help you with that task, i just do not use one and personally I'm not interested in it. I know that perhaps the best method is to freeze them with titanium but if you use these apps from time to time then it would become complicated and not worth the effort.
still I have few questions:
why would you like to stop them from working? do they drain your battery? if so then check your logs with bbs and find out which ones are draining, try to change their setting or get rid of them, or at least close only these ones. long time ago I was fighting with some apps that I do not use often and they start themselves from time to time. I didn't want to get rid of them, so before every night I was killing them one-by-one from applications menu (actually most of them didn't wake up until I ran them myself). finally, after many tests I got to the point that it doesn't make any difference. apps I was killing, even if running, didn't use any recourses, didn't produce wakelocks, they were just using some RAM. and if it is the reason of your concern then do not be worried - they may use as much RAM as they want - android will free RAM when it will need it.
now I do not kill any apps and by night I lose 0-2% of battery which is my only concern - what should we care more? CPU, RAM - let it work as long as it doesn't stop us from enjoying our phone and make a usage of it uncomfortable.
and if you're worried about packet data then you may limit it for each app using system menu in ICS.
ancilary said:
read that ..
thank you
and is there any way to stop auto startups of apps?i have around 200apps and most of them i use around once a day or not even once
i use android assistant to manage startup but it does on boot and after some time if i check running apps most of apps will be there running
is there any app to block it running automatically? not just at startup ? full control like anything?
thank you
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Thanks dude. I also have the similar problem. I have spent months on it without any improvement. Now I'm quite frustrated and not optimistic on the solution you have provided towards my issue, but your decription gives me a lot of clue.
But my problem is even more tricky, I would like to share it here so see if anyone have met it before, or if I need to start a new thread to deal with it:
The problem can be generally decribed as below:
1. When the battery is fully charged, unplug and consume the juice until the level reach around 30%, then the phone is shut down automatically; after I plugin the power and restart the phone, the battery level is displayed as 0%;
2. After charging for a while from 0% , restart the phone and you will see the battery level directly goes back to 50%, but still with very low voltage;
3. Changing with a new battery won't solve the issue -- though the new battery itself may also have problem(not sure if it is genuine), but I don't think a fake battery and an old battery should behave almost the same, so I don't think it is the battery's problem; criticize if I'm wrong
4. Re-flashing a new rom won't solve the issue either. I have tried different CM9 nightlies and now I'm using CM10 nightlies, none of them is immune to the problem;
5. Clear the battery state won't solve the problem. It is hard to say whether it improves the situation at least a tiny bit. I mean it may work somehow, e.g. My phone used to be shut down at 50% battery level and now it can last to 36%. But it never totally solve the problem once and for all, so I still don't trust this caliberation thing may work.
I hope I have clearly stated my issue. I'm so at the end of my patience, this little bastard have been always torturing me You guys are the last I can count on I really hope I came here earlier so as not to have wasted so much time.

Battery life and warranty

Hello
Recently the battery on my phone very quickly discharged.
The phone is after a hard reset without any applications installed.
When it is almost unused batteries lasts about 5 hours
android os 88%
phone idle 5%
display 4%
stanby mobile 3%
When surfing the Internet or make the call battery is discharged after 1-2 hours.
I'm going to send the phone for warranty repair in UK.
Has anyone had a similar problem?
How long will it take to repair it?
Looks like some application is using up lots off battery. Try resetting your phone, install apps one by one.. If student you lose battery life that's the culprit.
Sent from my ICS Razr XT910
adamszmu said:
Hello
Recently the battery on my phone very quickly discharged.
The phone is after a hard reset without any applications installed.
When it is almost unused batteries lasts about 5 hours
android os 88%
phone idle 5%
display 4%
stanby mobile 3%
When surfing the Internet or make the call battery is discharged after 1-2 hours.
I'm going to send the phone for warranty repair in UK.
Has anyone had a similar problem?
How long will it take to repair it?
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vash_h said:
Looks like some application is using up lots off battery. Try resetting your phone, install apps one by one.. If student you lose battery life that's the culprit.
Sent from my ICS Razr XT910
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It's not an app that's using up battery life, it's the "Android OS" itself. Uninstalling apps would have a small effect.
Though I do recommend a factory reset, it could be a setting that is using up all this battery.
Battery usage when turned OFF???
I've seen something that really surprised me. I have two Razrs, nearly identically configured. One of them I turn off most of the week except when I need to tether. I charge it once a week.
I thought this was a fluke, but it's happening consistently since ICS:
It used to be when I charged the battery once a week, this phone was nearly completely charged and only took a minute or so to reach 100% charge.
Now under ICS, when I plug the phone in for charging once a week, the battery meter reads below 50% and takes a couple of hours to charge up to 100%.
What has changed with ICS?
Is there something still running when I turn the phone off now? It would seem to me that OFF should mean OFF.
Or, is the ICS battery meter more accurate? Or does the meter need to be reset to 0 somehow? I did do a factory reset after installing ICS.
Any shared wisdom would be greatly appreciated.
ddwoid said:
I've seen something that really surprised me. I have two Razrs, nearly identically configured. One of them I turn off most of the week except when I need to tether. I charge it once a week.
I thought this was a fluke, but it's happening consistently since ICS:
It used to be when I charged the battery once a week, this phone was nearly completely charged and only took a minute or so to reach 100% charge.
Now under ICS, when I plug the phone in for charging once a week, the battery meter reads below 50% and takes a couple of hours to charge up to 100%.
What has changed with ICS?
Is there something still running when I turn the phone off now? It would seem to me that OFF should mean OFF.
Or, is the ICS battery meter more accurate? Or does the meter need to be reset to 0 somehow? I did do a factory reset after installing ICS.
Any shared wisdom would be greatly appreciated.
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With those stats, there's nothing wrong with the battery. I've never seen the Android OS use more power than the display (doesn't make any sense why it should). There's something running intensely on your phone. The bloatware is considered part of the OS (motorola apps), try disabling some of them. Otherwise I'd suggest a factory reset/cache wipe but since you've already done that, try re-downloading the OTA and installing all over again
vash_h said:
Looks like some application is using up lots off battery. Try resetting your phone, install apps one by one.. If student you lose battery life that's the culprit.
Sent from my ICS Razr XT910
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There is no applications installled on my phone.
It is just after factory reset.
Its one of the famous "Android OS" suspend bufg which makes the cpu not to go in deep sleep.I am facing the same problem right now but couldnt find a solution
I sent my phone to repair centre twice but my problem still is not fixed. Sometimes it works ok but sometimes battery lasts about 5 hours.
motorola staff ban me on motorola forum because I said that I’m disappointed their service.
I know one thing , never buy motorola again.
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[SOLVED] Rooted Stock, mysterious battery drain

Hello everyone. I am running the original, rooted stock rom (45.31.0.MB860.Retail.en.GB).
Since a week or so I notice a huge battery drain. Before that I was able to use the phone for a working day (07:30 - 23:00) and put it back to charge with still 10 - 20 % battery life remaining.
However, now the phone is only able to survive 07:30 - 17:00 +- 1 hour.
I did not introduce new software on it.
BatteryCalibration reports ~4180mV @ 100% charge. It looks quite good for a 1 year old battery, isn't it?
The stock battery usage tool reports the usual top drainers when everything should be fine (phone idle 45%, display 22%, com.motorola.contacts.data 9%, Cell standby 9%, ..).
I am trying BetterBatteryStats. It reports as major kernel wake lockers PowerManagerService (78%), dhd_wake_lock (21%) and as major partial wakelockers PingProcessor(51) (43%), com.motorola.blur.service.sync.engine.wakelock.notification (20%), EasPushPrc:51 (12.6%). I have no clue whether one of these is unusual or not.
Has anybody ever experienced something like this? I am missing 5 hours of usage +10-20% charge here
Cheers
install a program like spare parts and check out if there is a app which causes this drain
peddarson said:
install a program like spare parts and check out if there is a app which causes this drain
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Spare Parts (+) does the same job as the other beforementioned tools (stock battery usage in particular). Thanks for the reply, by the way!
It turned out to be a software problem (bug?). I performed a factory data reset and everything is back to normal now.
The funny thing is that I am using the same applications as before the reset.
The attached screenshots show the battery state with light usage (two activesync accounts / gtalk, WI-FI always on, some twitter usage).
I am satisfied :good:

Help please: battery woes, stock ROM, no root

I'm trying to assist a non-technically inclined friend to troubleshoot her battery life issues. She's on a stock JB Vodafone ROM, and she lives a long way away, so me just going to see her and rooting the phone is a no-no.
Her battery dropped from 99% - 47% overnight, with the main culprits being android system, followed by device idle and cell standby quite a long way behind. The phone had wifi and mobile data switched off during this period.
I know android system is an umbrella for all sorts of processes that go on in the background, but since she isn't rooted I can't use Better Battery Stats to drill down and try and find the cause of her wakelocks. She doesn't have many apps installed at all, mainly just what came with the phone.
Is there some general stuff that I can do to try and eliminate any obvious causes of this battery drain? Any suggestions at all would be welcomed
setspeed said:
I'm trying to assist a non-technically inclined friend to troubleshoot her battery life issues. She's on a stock JB Vodafone ROM, and she lives a long way away, so me just going to see her and rooting the phone is a no-no.
Her battery dropped from 99% - 47% overnight, with the main culprits being android system, followed by device idle and cell standby quite a long way behind. The phone had wifi and mobile data switched off during this period.
I know android system is an umbrella for all sorts of processes that go on in the background, but since she isn't rooted I can't use Better Battery Stats to drill down and try and find the cause of her wakelocks. She doesn't have many apps installed at all, mainly just what came with the phone.
Is there some general stuff that I can do to try and eliminate any obvious causes of this battery drain? Any suggestions at all would be welcomed
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Install gsam from play and let it run over night. Use it to inspect apps, but then toggle the view from battery drain to number of times waking device. Typical culprits are sync with numerous accounts and location services. Google Now has been know to beat up location services. Next install air push detector and remove any apps it detects.
Hope this helps.
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wraith404 said:
Install gsam from play and let it run over night. Use it to inspect apps, but then toggle the view from battery drain to number of times waking device. Typical culprits are sync with numerous accounts and location services. Google Now has been know to beat up location services. Next install air push detector and remove any apps it detects.
Hope this helps.
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Does GSAM require root?
setspeed said:
Does GSAM require root?
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No
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I used to have that problem
setspeed said:
I'm trying to assist a non-technically inclined friend to troubleshoot her battery life issues. She's on a stock JB Vodafone ROM, and she lives a long way away, so me just going to see her and rooting the phone is a no-no.
Her battery dropped from 99% - 47% overnight, with the main culprits being android system, followed by device idle and cell standby quite a long way behind. The phone had wifi and mobile data switched off during this period.
I know android system is an umbrella for all sorts of processes that go on in the background, but since she isn't rooted I can't use Better Battery Stats to drill down and try and find the cause of her wakelocks. She doesn't have many apps installed at all, mainly just what came with the phone.
Is there some general stuff that I can do to try and eliminate any obvious causes of this battery drain? Any suggestions at all would be welcomed
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When I upgraded my phone to JB i had to charge my phone twice a day, so I decided to do a factory data reset and now my battery life is about 20 hours, I'm installing one by one all the apps that I had and until now I haven't had that problem anymore.
You could tell her to do the same, and let me know if it worked. Good luck!
tutan_kbron said:
When I upgraded my phone to JB i had to charge my phone twice a day, so I decided to do a factory data reset and now my battery life is about 20 hours, I'm installing one by one all the apps that I had and until now I haven't had that problem anymore.
You could tell her to do the same, and let me know if it worked. Good luck!
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I had the exact same problem, but on ICS. I figured that Fast Dormancy was the culprit, keeping my phone awake for almost half the time it was out of charger. It solved itself on Jelly Bean, but I read a tip somewhere that might help.
1. Remove battery for about a minute. Re-insert battery.
2. When phone is fully charged, ONLY remove it from charger when screen is on and phone unlocked. If not, then remove battery and start over.
Dont know if this helps, but give it a try. Worth a shot. If not, factory reset is an option. Better Battery Stats is also good for checking wich processes keep the phone awake.
Gl

[Q] Very fast battery draining!

Hello! I bought this phone last month. Since I got it, I've never experienced any problem with it. For four days, I noticed that the battery drains very quickly, without any logical explanation for this. The data connection is turned off, Wi-Fi is turned off. Last evening, I charge it to 100%. This morning,I found it turned off, with 0% battery. What solutions do you have to solve this problem? Have you encountered this problem?
DeuxEx said:
Hello! I bought this phone last month. Since I got it, I've never experienced any problem with it. For four days, I noticed that the battery drains very quickly, without any logical explanation for this. The data connection is turned off, Wi-Fi is turned off. Last evening, I charge it to 100%. This morning,I found it turned off, with 0% battery. What solutions do you have to solve this problem? Have you encountered this problem?
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Can you please provide some more details on this?
I.E. What is it plugged into to charge? Laptop, Desktop, AC, etc etc.
- I ask this because I had a phone that would actually consume more power than a USB port could put out. when turning off the laptop, it actually allowed a back drain for some reason, and the next morning the device was dead. (Not this phone)
Also, what applications are running? Any?
Finally, you can try to retrain your battery... Wiping stats does not work, ever. So despite what anyone tells you, don't do it. You're just wasting time. SOURCE
So, how do you retrain your battery? Let it die completely. Then plug it in to charge. Don't use it while it's charging if you can help it. DO NOT remove it from the charger until it's at 100%. Once this is done, use it til it dies on it's own. Then yet again, charge it fully and then go back to your normal use.
In some cases, these batteries can go bad, for various reasons. A quick test, but is not always trustworthy is to spin your battery on either side. If it makes more than 2 full rotations, it's swelling and going out. Replace it.
The best alternative is to take it to a battery shop, and let them put it on a Cadex machine. (Pronounced Kay-Dex) ... This machine will charge and discharge the battery several times over a few hours and truly test the current life -vs- the life it should be. Anything rated less than 80% remaining life should be replaced.
SOURCE: I work here
I charge it only from power outlet, with stock charger.
Trib wrote 5 paragraphs on info you need to provide and you come back with a small sentence? Pretty much if you use your phone a good amount it will only last you a day per charge. Unless you give us an explanation on how fast it is draining it's impossible to even start helping
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psychoace said:
Trib wrote 5 paragraphs on info you need to provide and you come back with a small sentence? Pretty much if you use your phone a good amount it will only last you a day per charge. Unless you give us an explanation on how fast it is draining it's impossible to even start helping
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6 hours 40 minutes from 100% to 10%, and the phone in stand by! Cell standby - 45%, Phone idle - 48%, Screen - 7%
And all this after a hard reset and retrain battery! The battery is almost new (aprox 1 month)!
I want it to make a screen shot of battery drain, but I have no clue how to do that on LG L9...
Volume down + Lock key for screenshots
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Volume down + Lock key for screenshots
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I hard reset it once again. Now is on charging. After that, I will provide you a screenshot with battery stats. Thank you for your help! I try to borrow an othe battery from an other LG L9 phone to see if is the battery or the phone! I hope to find someone with that kind of phone.
DeuxEx said:
I hard reset it once again. Now is on charging. After that, I will provide you a screenshot with battery stats. Thank you for your help! I try to borrow an othe battery from an other LG L9 phone to see if is the battery or the phone! I hope to find someone with that kind of phone.
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I attached a screenshot. Yesterday I changed the battery. Same problem! I take it this screenshot this morning, after I fully charged the phone ... Same problem, a new battery.
Can you please tell us what applications you have running in the background?
Also deactivate google now.(or the google services in google maps). download and install GSam Battery Monitor and after a cycle tell us what applications are eating your battery the most. It's clear that you either use yout phone(screen on time) allot or there is/are some applications that prevent your phone from going to sleep.
I use battery widget reborn and it shows me wneh the phone woke up,when the phone had the screen on,wi-fi on,gps on. Try it as well.
I also had battery issues when on JB. I downgraded back to ics. It's much more reliable when it comes to battery life. And the performance is about the same.
I don't have any app installed. After i replace the battery, i made a hard reset and I did not installed any app. I will install cpuspy and betterbatterystats for more results. I will back tomorrow. Until than, maybe you can provide me more advices. It can be from a damage sim card?
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I guess your signal quality isn't good enough because cell standby is eating up more than 40% of battery. Cell standby in my phone is only around 5%..
noob.gamer said:
I guess your signal quality isn't good enough because cell standby is eating up more than 40% of battery. Cell standby in my phone is only around 5%..
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I removed the sim card, but in flight mode is the same problem... The last solution is to change the rom with a custom one. Any recomandation?
It's not that. Not the signal. It's the firmware. JB has these problems. In ICS Display is the major consumer followed by Phone Idle and Cell Standby.
I also had these problems in JB and reverted back to ICS .
I would advise you to install CM 10.1 on the phone. The battery life is better than stock. I get around 12-16 hours normally. The latest RC4 has fixed almost all the bugs present in older CM 10.1 variations. Give it a try.
I will root the phone and I will give a try with CM 10.1 or I revert to 4.0.4. If all this will be for nothing, I will sell the phone!
DeuxEx said:
I will root the phone and I will give a try with CM 10.1 or I revert to 4.0.4. If all this will be for nothing, I will sell the phone!
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On ICS you will get great battery life Telling from my experience as i have reverted back to ICS after trying JB and CM 10.1( both have very poor battery life ) . So instead of wasting time just flash ICS and forget about battery issue :good:
Where can I find a tutorial to revert to ICS?
Same question. Can some one please give a step by step guide on how to revert to ics for l9
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Use the offline flash..
I also reverted to ICS and the battery drain keeps like a countdown
I have the p769, and I offline flashed up to V20D (and rooted). Removed some tmobile bloat, and I have pretty decent battery life. I guess I'm lucky.
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