I'm trying to decide on a tablet for myself.
Thought about the nook but the 7" screen dissuaded me.
Specs:
G http://www.viewsonic.com/gtablet/spec.htm
10s http://ap.viewsonic.com/za/products/viewpad/viewpad10s/specs.php
Now I'm down to the G Tablet ($360) and the ViewPad 10s ($399)
10s to GTablet Comparison: (legend: + Pro, - Con, ? unknown)
+ seems to have a better screen (larger viewing angles)
+ HDMI port
- 512MB internal flash (not too bad if apps2sdext is possible)
- Lesser capacity battery (3300 vs 3650 mAh)
? developer support ? will there be a xda forum and support (ROMs)
Other questions:
The 10s has an accelerometer (g-sensor)
Does the G Tablet have an Accelometer? Magnetometer (compass)?
Please help me decide. thanks.
Yes accelerometer, no magnetometer.
Doesn't the 10s have 3G connectivity as well as GPS? GPS would be nice to have, but not a necessity. And the 3G connection is a bit of overkill unless you're traveling all the time. Pretty hard to find a place nowadays without wifi.
From what I've heard, the screen in the 10s is the same as the gtablet. Or at least shares the same viewing angle concerns.
Also, I'm not sure where you're posting from, but the 10s is a Eurpoean model. but I'm sure you can get it on ebay for the US.
Thanks for your answers.
Kayak83 said:
Doesn't the 10s have 3G connectivity as well as GPS? GPS would be nice to have, but not a necessity. And the 3G connection is a bit of overkill unless you're traveling all the time. Pretty hard to find a place nowadays without wifi.
From what I've heard, the screen in the 10s is the same as the gtablet. Or at least shares the same viewing angle concerns.
Also, I'm not sure where you're posting from, but the 10s is a Eurpoean model. but I'm sure you can get it on ebay for the US.
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I dont need 3G coz my Nexus can tether for free , same reason I dont need another GPS too.
JR.com is taking pre-orders
http://www.jr.com/viewsonic/pe/VIW_VIEWPAD10S/
I'm pretty confused....
So from the hours of research that I have done, from what I understand (and correct me if i'm wrong) there are 3 tablets coming out from Viewsonic. . . The Viewpad 10, Viewpad 10s (European and Asian markets), and a Viewpad 10 Pro.
From what I have read, the 10 Pro will also be dual boot, Windows 7 and Android 2.2. The one thing that confuses me besides all of the mixed information out there, is that....
1) Android 2.2 will be native (dual boot).
2) Android 2.2 will "work within a VM" which is launched within Windows 7.
Has anyone else closely researched Viewsonic's new tablet lineup?
Thanks.
The major difference between the G Tablet and Viewpad is CPU. For G Tablet we have Tegra2 which will be a reference design for Android 3. Viewpad should be using Intel Atom CPU to be able to run Windows7. I think it will have much worse support from xda. So if you want Windows and terrible battery live - choose Viewpad. If you want Android 3 Honeycomb - G Tablet.
ivan.volosyuk said:
The major difference between the G Tablet and Viewpad is CPU. For G Tablet we have Tegra2 which will be a reference design for Android 3. Viewpad should be using Intel Atom CPU to be able to run Windows7. I think it will have much worse support from xda. So if you want Windows and terrible battery live - choose Viewpad. If you want Android 3 Honeycomb - G Tablet.
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Wrong...
The 10S version of the viewpad has a tegra cpu just like the gtablet..Some places are actually calling it a gtab2 and/or the euro gtab only because it has a few additional features but supposedly a similar screen... maybe these links will help. Good luck, hope this all helps.
http://www.greatereader.org/?p=11791
http://www.jr.com/viewsonic/pe/VIW_VIEWPAD10S/
So, in essence the 10S is the same as the gTab with a few extra features at roughly the same price...
flashred said:
So from the hours of research that I have done, from what I understand (and correct me if i'm wrong) there are 3 tablets coming out from Viewsonic. . . The Viewpad 10, Viewpad 10s (European and Asian markets), and a Viewpad 10 Pro.
From what I have read, the 10 Pro will also be dual boot, Windows 7 and Android 2.2. The one thing that confuses me besides all of the mixed information out there, is that....
1) Android 2.2 will be native (dual boot).
2) Android 2.2 will "work within a VM" which is launched within Windows 7.
Has anyone else closely researched Viewsonic's new tablet lineup?
Thanks.
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I wouldn't go with the x86 tablet. Just about all current Android devices are ARM CPU based and ANY apps that make use of the native development environment just won't work on non-ARM CPUs. (Actually I'm guessing that most devs will restrict to ARMv7 anyways -> cortex-a8 & -a9 based systems only but these are the only ones worth buying anyways...)
I wonder why they kneecapped internal storage for the 10s? I read this a while back and IIRC it said 4GB at that time... About the only thing that I'd like from it is higher cap batt... be even better if it was 5k but...
flipovich said:
The 10S version of the viewpad has a tegra cpu just like the gtablet..
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No, Windows 7 wouldn't run on ARM.
dagbro said:
No, Windows 7 wouldn't run on ARM.
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That is correct, and also the reason why I would like to go with one of these Viewpads that can boot (or VM) Windows 7 and Android 2.2
I haven't posted much (so i'm restricted) on here otherwise I would add a few links to the demonstrations I have seen on the 'tube. If you do a search for Viewpad 10 pro, you will see Android being launched in a VM of sorts. It's very interesting to me.
I think ya'll are confusing your models so here's a breakdown to clear things up a little.
Viewpad 10 = Intel CPU with Windows and Android OS (dual-boot)
Viewpad 10 Pro = Intel CPU running Windows primarily with the capability of launching Android from a VM within Windows
Viewpad 10S = Tegra CPU running only Android OS
The OP is asking about the 10S not the other models that ya'll keep confusing into the mix. The 10S, like I said before, is basically a gTab with a few extra features but smaller internal storage for roughly the same price. I hope this clears things up a bit.
flipovich said:
I think ya'll are confusing your models so here's a breakdown to clear things up a little.
Viewpad 10 = Intel CPU with Windows and Android OS (dual-boot)
Viewpad 10 Pro = Intel CPU running Windows primarily with the capability of launching Android from a VM within Windows
Viewpad 10S = Tegra CPU running only Android OS
The OP is asking about the 10S not the other models that ya'll keep confusing into the mix. The 10S, like I said before, is basically a gTab with a few extra features but smaller internal storage for roughly the same price. I hope this clears things up a bit.
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Looking at the picture of the 10s leads me to believe the screen is no better than the gtablet. It has the same frame around it. And from the internal pictures/write-ups I've seen on the gtablet there has always been plenty of room left for them to simply "upgrade" it a little with 3G and GPS.
I did a lil research too. I saw videos of it at CES and the viewing angles looks the same as g tablet video I saw. My g tablet coming in soon but I dont know if I should refuse the shipment and wait for viewpad 10s.
So far 10s has
hdmi
2x usb port
glossy back.
buttons disappear on the front with return button near power on the side
2 models: 3g+GPS or Wifi only
g-tablet over 10s is
bigger battery
buttons
cheaper
The screen looks the same. The people did the viewpad 10s video didnt even mention anything about g-tablet or about the viewing angle. Anyone have info on this?
Glossy back is a down if you're like me and OCD about prints on your electronics.
G Tablet
I went and looked at one, and the screen is definitely a concern to me. Are there any versions of these that don't have the screen like that? Dark when you look at it from an angle top pointed away? I see its sort of backwards, and looks brighter when the top is pointed towards you. Very odd.
Guys, with the $50 off coupon today I had no choice but to get the Nook Color.
Can always gift it to family later
Thanks for your input, the discussion can continue!.
flashred said:
That is correct, and also the reason why I would like to go with one of these Viewpads that can boot (or VM) Windows 7 and Android 2.2
I haven't posted much (so i'm restricted) on here otherwise I would add a few links to the demonstrations I have seen on the 'tube. If you do a search for Viewpad 10 pro, you will see Android being launched in a VM of sorts. It's very interesting to me.
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Does viewpad 10s run vegacomb 3.2 build 9n good? Cheers.
Tomas.
Hello Guys,
I have bought a Dell Latitude t02g Table. The specs looks great - Windows 7 Pro - 1.5ghz atom processor, 2 GB Ram, 64GB SSD.
I think the specs are great but its just too damn sluggish when i run facebook or any flash games on it. very unresponsive on normal browsing.
I think this tablet can be great on Google Android x86 platform but After doing a lot of research - I see that people have installed LUBUNTU on it or windows 8 on it and are in a compromised situation. Where Windows 8 has blue screens and etc and moving on Lubuntu, has limited the functionality of he hardware graphics and rotations.
So much money paid for a device that promises a lot and so much disappointment .
I just wish if we could have a forum for this device where the XDA Team can make something super for this device - maybe an android port over that fully works and makes teh tablet smooth like other tablets.
Do you think there is something already out there that has fixed the tablet and makes it shine like a star as advertised? or will there be further enhancements on this and i can wait for it?
Or should i just sell it off for literally peanuts and forget about it
Any help/ hints would be great.
Thanks
AJ
delldell latitude 10 st2
I also wanted to know if for the dell latitude 10 st2 there was solution?
Try the latest windows. That's what I did. To make good use out of it. I installed Kodi n hooked it up to my TV via HDMI worked well. N then sold after a few weeks. Let me know how it goes
There's a fork of android for x86 architecture (http://www.android-x86.org/ ). Some year or two ago I tried few of provided builds but with mixed success. The issues is that bundled drivers are either generic and performance is bad, or different builds have different modules working ( like WiFi but no sound or sound but no WiFi)
It's not that difficult to get two kernel .config files from two most "working" builds and merge them together and build a new kernel, but the process itself is very time consuming (you have to compare files option by option manually, automerge is not an option in this case)
Builds were tegav2, asus_laptop and eeepc
Looks like http://www.android-x86.org/ project moved quite far since that time so maybe you want to give it a try. It's rather brick-safe and you can always go back to Windows/Linux.
Speaking of which, right now my ST has Win10 installed, but performance is bad. I'm thinking of installing clean ubuntu (from Minimal CD) with i3 WM to get maximum out of that hardware. On other laptop with similar specs such setup looks very promising
I did some more checking and I'm wondering if most Android apps are compatible with both Intel Atom and Arm processors. My concern is giving an Atom-based tablet to a relative and having her favorite games and apps not run on an x86 architecture.
Here's the tablet: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231269
Any information would be appreciated.
Thank you.
PS: Love XDA for the great help and knowledge I have gained over the years
audit13 said:
I did some more checking and I'm wondering if most Android apps are compatible with both Intel Atom and Arm processors. My concern is giving an Atom-based tablet to a relative and having her favorite games and apps not run on an x86 architecture.
Here's the tablet: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231269
Any information would be appreciated.
Thank you.
PS: Love XDA for the great help and knowledge I have gained over the years
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Hi
When compared to ARM , x86 has less number of Apps support . But now a days with increase in Intel products its gaining more support . I had seen fifa and some other games had no support for x86 in past . I would suggest ARM instead of x86 if I had to ...
Thank you for the response.
I purchased the tablet from Staples for $170 CAD, new and sealed in a box. I was interested in a 10" tablet with an HD screen. I see that most 10" tablets have a 1200x800 screen while the Asus has a 1980 x 1200 screen. Any tablets I could find with a HD screen were over $300 CAD.
I will try out the tablet and, if it doesn't support the apps my relative needs, I can return if for a refund.
Does anyone have a recommendation on which Chromebook to get that is possible to install Arch Linux on without many issues, ideally with a 12+ inch screen?
HP Chromebook 14
I have read on the Stack Exchange Forums that the HP Chromebook 14 runs this smoothly. I Run Ubuntu on mine and it has only given me the expected little issues you deal with on these types of installs... Totally worth it. I only had one issue with my Chromebook and it was my battery dying. Not sure of other brands but you have to ship back to HP for this particular model. CS was great to deal with and they returned it back quickly...... All in all I would make sure you get a book running Intel. I hear the most issues on other ARM processors, with the exception of the 13.04 on the Samsung ARM chromebook.
ask Ubuntu dot com - best I have found for answers. Kind of like this one.. Not a lot of people just arguing trying to prove they are smarter than the other.. Just good help!
Hope this helps, please feel free to check out the Ubuntu section on Stack Exchange and I find the people on the Google+ very nice as well.
Petedev said:
Does anyone have a recommendation on which Chromebook to get that is possible to install Arch Linux on without many issues, ideally with a 12+ inch screen?
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Hello.
I'm trying to install Remix OS on tablet "Lenovo ThinkPad 10" (1gen). Processor Z3795 with Intel 7th Gen graphics. I installed x86 and x64 versions, but there is no touch screen support.
Is there any way to do something about it?
I can't help you with that, but good to know someone's trying!!!
I'm also trying to get a reliable Android OS to run on my Thinkpad 10. I've so far discarded all emulators, and also not in favour of virtual because of low power of our tablets. I've so far only tried Android-x86's ROM and though that's a lovely piece of software, running beautifully with touch and keyboard and pen and all, I can't get it to produce sound nor use bluetooth.
Still looking...
Mervin The Paranoid said:
Still looking...
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Hello! Any news?