Replace Camera from Zx? - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

Hello unfortunately I broke my the touchscreen (pressed against a desk while the phone was in my pocket and there it goes...)
I'm about to order a replacement LCD + touchscreen. While dissambly today I've noticed that the camera looks very simmilar in terms of dimensions and connectors to the ones found on the original Xperia Z/Z1 . Which got me wondering whether it would be possible to transplant a 20mpx camera module into the ultra
According to all mighty wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor and google, the Ultra has an IMX134 (4,2mm height), The Z is a IMX135 (5,5 mm height) and Z1 is IMX220 (5,8 mm) ...
So if theoretically I manage to stuff the module inside, can I upgrade the camera? Anyone with more Experience of the Sony ROMs, would I need to do a lot of tweaking on the backend? Looking at the guide http://developer.sonymobile.com/kno...ld-aosp-lollipop-for-unlocked-xperia-devices/ and https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/device-sony-togari , there doesn't seem to be much going on in terms of device configuration for the camera....
Ofc, specifications have to be checked and probably it would require some hacking around the camera apk/rom/kernel to get in running, but just from the top of your mind, do you think it's possible? Or if someone has attempted something simillar before? Anyone with more Experience of the Sony ROMs, would I need to do a lot of tweaking on the backend?
Thanks in advance!
Edit:
Last night I couldn't find it, but today I found a similar question, however no steps were taken.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2585918

Replace t4k37 to imx214: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67865839&postcount=5

Thank you remittor, I'll look into it.
I've decided to attempt the mod Today the new module has arrived and I'm waiting for the new LCD/Touchscreen assembly to arrive (which hopefully I won't short like last time >_<).
I went greedy and opted for the IMX220 from a Z1 instead of the IMX135 of Z. The module is way bigger that the original (of course).
Some preliminary observations:
1. The IMX220 connector PCB is wider, although the connector itself looks the same. It seems that it will fit, If I unglue the motherboard from the frame to connect it
2. It's tight, but the IMX220 fits through the PCB hole physically - maybe leftover from originally using a bigger camera module or just luck
3. The NFC plastic/plate will definetly need to be cutted, since the frame/skeleton is shaped precisely for the IMX134
4. The back cover won't fit (naturally). The options are again sawing part of it with the camera module potruding and gluing something on top or 3D printing a back cover with a Samsung style bulge for the module. (I know, I know this would kill a huge part of the aestetics of the phone as well as maybe a bit of the pocket comfort).

apocalypse_bg said:
Thank you remittor, I'll look into it.
I've decided to attempt the mod Today the new module has arrived and I'm waiting for the new LCD/Touchscreen assembly to arrive (which hopefully I won't short like last time >_<).
I went greedy and opted for the IMX220 from a Z1 instead of the IMX135 of Z. The module is way bigger that the original (of course).
Some preliminary observations:
1. The IMX220 connector PCB is wider, although the connector itself looks the same. It seems that it will fit, If I unglue the motherboard from the frame to connect it
2. It's tight, but the IMX220 fits through the PCB hole physically - maybe leftover from originally using a bigger camera module or just luck
3. The NFC plastic/plate will definetly need to be cutted, since the frame/skeleton is shaped precisely for the IMX134
4. The back cover won't fit (naturally). The options are again sawing part of it with the camera module potruding and gluing something on top or 3D printing a back cover with a Samsung style bulge for the module. (I know, I know this would kill a huge part of the aestetics of the phone as well as maybe a bit of the pocket comfort).
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Hey man, have you succeeded with that modification? I get the same case right now! I wonder if it is possible for Xperia z to recognize the imx220? Cuz it fits tight, but camera doesnt work and i dunno the next steps, first link is too old and doesnt work anymore.

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Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom Car Mount & Running Arm Band

Been searching around for a while now but am unable to find a S4 zoom car windscreen mount or a running arm band (don't know what the real name of this is?)... Can one of you experts lend a hand in where I might obtain one as the only ones i can find are 'universal' ones and i really don't think this fat bugger of a 'phone' will fit into one of these as i believe them to be basing this on the 15.4mm thickness dimensions (as i did when i bought the phone), when in actual fact the fattest section is closer to 33mm (might be more), lol.
I am also quite keen on riding and running so need an arm band that this phone would actually fit in which again i am having the same problems as the prior.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Closest car mount/holder i have found that might hold this is as below;
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/supergrip-universal-case-compatible-car-mount-p30552.htm
this is what i have:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12104992280...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
opdrago said:
this is what i have:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12104992280...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Good find. Definitely looks like it'll hold in that one. I took the plunge with an uber cheap one while still looking so if the below one does not work I will venture to the one you recommended;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111124754584?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
My reason for this one is i used to use autoguard (not really sure why), and if i go back to it i need the lens free for recording. Still shall report if it A fits and B holds securely.
Hunt for the armband is still on sadly...
it holds perfect, i also cut off the half circle top plastic to ensure
if the optical lens will pop out by mistake it will go all the way out as normal.
Probably not suitable for you but I bought this one for my previous phone (Xperia Z).
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/stick-um-universal-in-car-holder-p26795.htm
Works pretty well with my Samsung Zoom, sitting upright (portrait) the lens 'hangs' over the top and the stickyness holds the bottom.
It will obviously be more difficult sitting in landscape position but would provide access to the charging point.
Kroy73 said:
Probably not suitable for you but I bought this one for my previous phone (Xperia Z).
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/stick-um-universal-in-car-holder-p26795.htm
Works pretty well with my Samsung Zoom, sitting upright (portrait) the lens 'hangs' over the top and the stickyness holds the bottom.
It will obviously be more difficult sitting in landscape position but would provide access to the charging point.
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I've always been tempted to try one of these but I am paranoid as f**k that the phone will fall off whilst driving. I have searched many videos and posts that all show this is not the case but still can't find the guts to try one out lol.

[Q] Newbie guide?

I looked but couldn't find, is there a recommended beginner's guide to the Z Ultra? If not, given the nearly 1.5 year lifetime of the device/community, what top tip would you give somebody receiving a new device in a few days?
I have just ordered my ZU. I am IT involved (work and hobby) but have virtually no Android or Xperia experience. This will be my first real/recent Android experience, I have had very limited experience up to now- a few hours on a 2.3 phone 2 years ago and on a tablet with Cyanogenmod last year. I have been using various Blackberry and Windows devices the last few years and before that the iphone.
I plan to just play safe the first week or two, trying out some Google Play store apps only, etc. Is there anything important I should do on first use? I'm not sure exactly what version the device will have loaded, anything to do before the OTA software update kicks in?
I plan to eventually root the device which seems necessary for certain things I want to do, I will read up on details , I'm aware of some key backup requirements.
Hi Jess91,
Welcome to the club!
Having IT experience, you should be comfortable navigating android and all the information around it. Read through all the stickies, particularly in the general section and Q/A. Familiarize with the lingo (root, rom, (custom) recovery, bootloader etc) -- you may already know what these mean.
In terms of "first things" -- I think you should be okay with the OTAs (see Blueether's Everything Root sticky - I believe the starting firmware ROM is the up-to-date version). Follow the right instructions (i.e Google Play Edition phone vs. Sony Xperia phone). As soon as you root, backup your ROM and your TA (I gather you're already familiar).
As for first things - my tip is to protect the device (physically):
-The long thin frame makes the phone prone to bend and there are plenty of reports in this forum of people cracking their screens from nothing more than having their phone in their pockets. Personally, I got a sturdy case and put tempered glass screen protectors on it to give it more rigidity. Others avoid pocketing the device all together.
-It's IP certified, but not covered under warranty if it gets water damaged. Also, the IP rating is for fresh water (i.e. not salt water or necessarily chlorinated water ).
-The screen is covered by an ASF which is prone to finger prints and scratching (especially if you plan to use a pen). Get a screen protector of some kind. Removing the film could void warranty (YMMV) but many people do remove it.
-take care with the flaps... kinda flimsy
-take care with magnetic cables-- can brick your device if you put them on the wrong way. Not officially supported by Sony.
Aside from the solvable physical weaknesses (and the camera) it's a very solid device - attractive design and runs like fire.
If you have questions (after a search of course) ask in this forum. It's a small community, but like a small town you begin to recognize everyone and people generally want to help. Response time can vary though.
Come back and let us know how it goes (and add any new tips you have for future users).
Thanks unidentifier.
Some real nuggets in your post. I appreciate it.
I am familiar with rooting, roms, bootloaders concepts, just not Android specifics. I will read Blueether's Everything Root thread when I have some spare time. My phone will come with Sony ROM, not GPe. From the quick reading I've done up to now, the 2 things that have stuck on rooting are:
- earlier versions are easier to root than latest (may be moot point if root on earlier doesn't stick when OS updated)
- need to back up a few things, especially not to lose some Sony keys to restore certain functionality (DRM related?)
I would like a stable, reliable device so can't really see myself moving away from the Sony ROM (which looked quiet good, unlike some other manufacturers' bloatware), so root to use as and when needed, not to install different ROMs. Depending on whether rooting sticks or has to be redone with OS updates, I'll do it after careful reading of the instructions. I haven't decided but I get the impression I should apply any OTA updates to have a patched device and worry about rooting later. Is that right, or is there advantage rooting sooner before these updates?
Your point on protection is well noted. Most of my posts so far have been in the Accessory sub-forum trying find a good case. I will be using the ZU more like a tablet, mostly at home on the couch or at work on my desk, it won't replace my phone being carried around everywhere, certainly not in pocket. I have purchased what seems to be the sturdiest case (ebay 121248924363) which has a magnetic charging access- this looks like a cheap version of the Incipio Dual Pro, which doesn't have magnetic charger access- a deal breaker for me.
My initial plan on case was to use a less protective option (ebay 181400289992) which I have also bought but not yet received. Even if the first case is strong enough, neither provide any screen protection (I will be carrying in a large bag with things like keys that may scratch) so I am looking for an additional container to use when carrying. Slightly overkill would be a Pelican type hard plastic shell with foam, more likely I will use a tupperware container.
Yes, in deciding on the ZU, I saw the many debates on ASF. The main question for me was whether it is best to install a glass protector over it (in which case, ideally on day 1) or to replace it (removing ASF). My conclusion (maybe wrong) was it is better not to have a/another protector on top of the ASF and given my light finger (no pen) careful (indoor) usage the ASF alone should be OK. Unfortunately, all this seems a bit subjective- clearly ASF is not scratch resistant to the extent of Gorilla glass but the complaints about it aren't scratches from fingers/nails, they seem to be due to keys in bag/pocket, stylus/other pointer, etc. I also saw various comments on how the ASF felt better, maybe not as smooth as glass, it was closer to the desired experience. ASF seems to be the biggest discussion topic on ZU, and many opinions.
Regarding the IP rating, I see it as a bonus not a challenge. My watch is 150M waterproof but I still take it off when showering. No other phone of mine has ever had flaps and I was even considering cutting/taking them off (gasp...the horror..am I expelled from ZU community?) as they get in the way, especially the USB. After looking at the options, I've decided to use the magnetic port (will use real Sony Dock's cable and/or Magnector X) for charging and Miracast technology to display on TV not USB. While I don't care too much about the flap, the integrity of the USB connector is still important. Daily USB charging and USB/MHL adapter use after a year or two takes it toll.
I have no use at all for the rear camera. I'll only occasionally use the front camera for video calling.
So a few questions/doubts, but nothing major. Going over the points like this makes me more reassured. Would be interested in your thoughts.
jess91 said:
Thanks unidentifier.
Some real nuggets in your post. I appreciate it.
I am familiar with rooting, roms, bootloaders concepts, just not Android specifics. I will read Blueether's Everything Root thread when I have some spare time. My phone will come with Sony ROM, not GPe. From the quick reading I've done up to now, the 2 things that have stuck on rooting are:
- earlier versions are easier to root than latest (may be moot point if root on earlier doesn't stick when OS updated)
- need to back up a few things, especially not to lose some Sony keys to restore certain functionality (DRM related?)
I would like a stable, reliable device so can't really see myself moving away from the Sony ROM (which looked quiet good, unlike some other manufacturers' bloatware), so root to use as and when needed, not to install different ROMs. Depending on whether rooting sticks or has to be redone with OS updates, I'll do it after careful reading of the instructions. I haven't decided but I get the impression I should apply any OTA updates to have a patched device and worry about rooting later. Is that right, or is there advantage rooting sooner before these updates?
Your point on protection is well noted. Most of my posts so far have been in the Accessory sub-forum trying find a good case. I will be using the ZU more like a tablet, mostly at home on the couch or at work on my desk, it won't replace my phone being carried around everywhere, certainly not in pocket. I have purchased what seems to be the sturdiest case (ebay 121248924363) which has a magnetic charging access- this looks like a cheap version of the Incipio Dual Pro, which doesn't have magnetic charger access- a deal breaker for me.
My initial plan on case was to use a less protective option (ebay 181400289992) which I have also bought but not yet received. Even if the first case is strong enough, neither provide any screen protection (I will be carrying in a large bag with things like keys that may scratch) so I am looking for an additional container to use when carrying. Slightly overkill would be a Pelican type hard plastic shell with foam, more likely I will use a tupperware container.
Yes, in deciding on the ZU, I saw the many debates on ASF. The main question for me was whether it is best to install a glass protector over it (in which case, ideally on day 1) or to replace it (removing ASF). My conclusion (maybe wrong) was it is better not to have a/another protector on top of the ASF and given my light finger (no pen) careful (indoor) usage the ASF alone should be OK. Unfortunately, all this seems a bit subjective- clearly ASF is not scratch resistant to the extent of Gorilla glass but the complaints about it aren't scratches from fingers/nails, they seem to be due to keys in bag/pocket, stylus/other pointer, etc. I also saw various comments on how the ASF felt better, maybe not as smooth as glass, it was closer to the desired experience. ASF seems to be the biggest discussion topic on ZU, and many opinions.
Regarding the IP rating, I see it as a bonus not a challenge. My watch is 150M waterproof but I still take it off when showering. No other phone of mine has ever had flaps and I was even considering cutting/taking them off (gasp...the horror..am I expelled from ZU community?) as they get in the way, especially the USB. After looking at the options, I've decided to use the magnetic port (will use real Sony Dock's cable and/or Magnector X) for charging and Miracast technology to display on TV not USB. While I don't care too much about the flap, the integrity of the USB connector is still important. Daily USB charging and USB/MHL adapter use after a year or two takes it toll.
I have no use at all for the rear camera. I'll only occasionally use the front camera for video calling.
So a few questions/doubts, but nothing major. Going over the points like this makes me more reassured. Would be interested in your thoughts.
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You can update to 4.4.4 if it doesn't come installed on your device, then root using the easyroot tool. I installed a plastic wet install screen protector directly over the asf and it seems to reduce the ghost touches. Currently I run the stock Sony rom rooted with xsposed modules to tweak statusbar and give four buttons for softkeys with custom icons. Also sdcard fix for write access to sd.
adfurgerson said:
You can update to 4.4.4 if it doesn't come installed on your device, then root using the easyroot tool. I installed a plastic wet install screen protector directly over the asf and it seems to reduce the ghost touches. Currently I run the stock Sony rom rooted with xsposed modules to tweak statusbar and give four buttons for softkeys with custom icons. Also sdcard fix for write access to sd.
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As @adfurgerson said, if the ZU is not on 4.4.4 the update to that either by OTA for by manually flashing a FTF (see stickies again). once on 4.4.4 the root with easyroot, install superSU, back up TA, install xposed and all should be good in the world.
The OTA to 5.0 (.1?) will either wipe root of will fail with root (I think only 1 OTA managed to work well with root) so you will have to flash a FTF to get the latest Lollipop when it arrives. Root is easy if you unlock the bootloader, if you want to keep the bootloader locked then it is wait for an exploit time.
I got mine on eBay, as an early present ? for me. ? headphone jack was defective, so Sony replaced the one I sent in with a new device. One week , from when FedEx picked up defective phone ? , to the delivery ? of the model I am writing from.
I am running stock Sony, as I am far from being tech savvy with my gadgets.
Actually synced all my contacts ,and apps from Google ,so setup was very easy. Strongly suggest to back up to your Google account ,as well as using PCC for backup as well.
Got a genuine Sony DK30 at a good priceline eBay as well , which I highly recommend, since there seems to be problems with the USB port flap staying closed.
Hooked on the big screen, plus LTE, which I have at&t as my provider here in the US. Speeds here in my rural area are disappointing, will see how they are when I travel to NYC later this week.
Otherwise, very satisfied with this mobile phone .
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I also splurged on ilLumishield screen protectors front and back, to prevent major scratches, and a liquid screen cleaner for smudges on this, and my Xperia L and Vaio notebook. Rubber plastic case for protection, cheap from eBay, but looking at the Sony cover w/stylus and built in battery, that seems to be very expensive, whether on Amazon or eBay.
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Great, quality replies! Love it.
adfurgerson said:
You can update to 4.4.4 if it doesn't come installed on your device, then root using the easyroot tool. Currently I run the stock Sony rom rooted with xsposed modules to tweak statusbar and give four buttons for softkeys with custom icons. Also sdcard fix for write access to sd.
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blueether said:
As @adfurgerson said, if the ZU is not on 4.4.4 the update to that either by OTA for by manually flashing a FTF (see stickies again). once on 4.4.4 the root with easyroot, install superSU, back up TA, install xposed and all should be good in the world.
The OTA to 5.0 (.1?) will either wipe root of will fail with root (I think only 1 OTA managed to work well with root) so you will have to flash a FTF to get the latest Lollipop when it arrives. Root is easy if you unlock the bootloader, if you want to keep the bootloader locked then it is wait for an exploit time.
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Yes, I thought the jump to Lollipop would wipe any root. Presuming incremental updates are possible (even if/when Lollipop is available to me, I have the choice to only update to 4.4.4 and not to latest) I will follow the advice. I am new to Android to would actually like to play around with the old 4.x first, just out of curiosity.
I have no immediate interest in unlocking the bootloader (ie to load custom ROMs) but would do so if it makes rooting practical. But, I don't need root immediate- at least, I don't think I do. I like Titanium backup, but even that shouldn't be critical for the first few weeks. I need to read up a little more, starting with blueether's sticky.
frothe3 said:
Got a genuine Sony DK30 at a good priceline eBay as well , which I highly recommend, since there seems to be problems with the USB port flap staying closed. Hooked on the big screen, plus LTE, which I have at&t as my provider here in the US. Speeds here in my rural area are disappointing, will see how they are when I travel to NYC later this week. Otherwise, very satisfied with this mobile phone .
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The DK30 is on my list, as is a Magnector X as I need 2 and can't decide from opinions which is better. What are you using to connect to your big screen? USB/MHL or Miracast? I don't want to use the USB flap on a daily basis so thinking of getting a Netgar PTV3000.
adfurgerson said:
I installed a plastic wet install screen protector directly over the asf and it seems to reduce the ghost touches.
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frothe3 said:
I also splurged on ilLumishield screen protectors front and back, to prevent major scratches, and a liquid screen cleaner for smudges on this, and my Xperia L and Vaio notebook. Rubber plastic case for protection, cheap from eBay, but looking at the Sony cover w/stylus and built in battery, that seems to be very expensive, whether on Amazon or eBay.
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I spent more time reading up on the topic of ASF and screen protectors, and I'm getting a little worried. It seems a feather can crack ASF! Altough I will use the device very carefully (indoors, just fingers) it seems best I get some screen protection. I don't want to remove the ASF, at least not until I settle in with the device, consensus seems to suggest adding a protector on top of the ASF may cause some pointing issues and reduce clarity somewhat but it is not terrible. I would prefer the really dry (static) types, that come off with ease- don't want residue/chemicals involved. I don't need impact protection so leaning away from tempered glass, which also tend to be quiet expensive. Some glass protectors I've had have been very grippy (I have moist figures/humid climate), in a way I prefer the grittier lower quality plastics for feel. I will look into dry plastic variants.
I saw the only good video on the iLumishield (SamTheeGeek on youtube), but installation wasn't shown. Any idea how/what taking it off would be like? Also, looks very shiny. I took a quick look on their site and I see a few options including matte option. Which do you have frothe3? I like the prices, $10-15 for 2-3 packs. I wonder how these compare with ones like Clarivue which seem to come up a lot in searches.
I just purchased the illumishield Blue Light screen protectors front and back, because it is supposed to be easier on the ? eyes, causing less eyestrain .
I'm a novice myself, I never root, and only flashed a branded device to generic once, with my Xperia X10a several years ago . Brings advantages and disadvantages ,the advantages won out in the end.
For throwing video ? ,I believe Mirracast or DLNA is the way to go.
I really like having an unlocked mobile Phone .
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The illumishield got lots of positive feedback on Amazon, that is why I chose them over any other screen protector. They have three different types. I would go to their website to check out illumishield. Would also check out the one you mentioned on Amazon, to check reviews, before you go and buy.
This novice wishes you luck ? .
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frothe3 said:
I just purchased the illumishield Blue Light screen protectors front and back, because it is supposed to be easier on the ? eyes, causing less eyestrain .
The illumishield got lots of positive feedback on Amazon, that is why I chose them over any other screen protector. They have three different types. I would go to their website to check out illumishield. Would also check out the one you mentioned on Amazon, to check reviews, before you go and buy.
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Thanks. illumishield definitely passes the Amazon test. Reviews look good. I wanted to see some detailed videos/pictures, but will trust the reviews.
It looks like the application (and removal) is easy, without much mess. I will stick on top of ASF, want to put on and take off without using chemicals. This is very important, and illumishield seems similar to the Clarivue I was looking at (not as popular a brand/product).
Going by their site, I see the 3 types: regular, matte, with blue light filter, in sets of 2 or 3, just front screen or both front and back. I've seen general recommendations (not specific to illumishield) to "stay away from matte" due to distortion in both sharpness and color (rainbow effect). I will be using indoors (home/office) with lights from ceiling (sometimes strong flurescent/spot lights) so am concerned shininess will be a major issue. In videos the screen looks really shiny.
This is the first time I'm seeing the blue filter you have- does it actually work in reducing eye strain and does it look different (worse colors or sharpness)?
I will be using a case so the back protection isn't too important, I presume the back is always the same. I might buy one set with back and another just fronts to test. I have to try to find some comparisons between blue filter and regular, if blue looks the same (color/clarity quality) I'll go for the blue and maybe a matte.
The matte option apparently reduces pixel clarity, even the good brand ones like illumishield. I will first try the regular before the more expensive blue filter or matte if too shiny. Unfortunately, illumishield is not available in Europe (I'm in studying the UK for the next year), and they charge crazy amount for shipping and will take 3 weeks to arrive. For now, I'll have to make do with a cheaper type and pick up illumishield when back stateside.
Hey,
I just bought a Z Ultra myself and after searching and reading a lot on the forums I'm still left with a few questions.
unidentifier said:
-take care with magnetic cables-- can brick your device if you put them on the wrong way. Not officially supported by Sony.
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How can you tell if you put them on the right way? I ordered a magnetic adapter from Amazon (it hasn't arrived yet) and now I'm worried that I will use it wrong.
Also I'm a bit confused about Lollipop for this device. Apparently there is an officially version for the GP Edition which will be ported over to the normal edition. Right now I'm on stock Android (4.4.4) but I want to install a custom ROM as soon as possible. Should I wait for Lollipop or will this take another few weeks/months?
And is there any ROM/kernel combination you can recommend? Right now I'm thinking about using SlimKat.
Thanks for your help.
Mangoniter said:
Hey,
How can you tell if you put them on the right way? I ordered a magnetic adapter from Amazon (it hasn't arrived yet) and now I'm worried that I will use it wrong.
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So, to start off with you use these cables at your own risk. Since they're not made by Sony, there aren't necessarily controls for quality or standards. Sony wouldn't have to service your phone for a non-recommended third party cable (again, YMMV as it has for users here). Go with a reputable source, with established positive reviews for the product itself to be safe. This said, I personally use one regularly and I'm hoping it's not doing any damage (but I also know my regional Sony Service Centre will likely service it).
CORRECT USAGE:
As you'll notice from the magnetic port on your phone, there are two small prongs. One is larger and more oval shaped while the other is more circular. See the picture below where the left port is the larger one:
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Correspondingly the adapter will have two female spaces that are differently sized for the prongs. That's how you know which way they go. In this image the bottom port larger to accommodate the larger prong:
Image 2: http://goo.gl/9vsSBN
That's how you know for sure. As a rule of thumb, it seems most manufacturers align the cables so the cord is going down the phone is held in portrait.
The port is intended to be used with a dock, which eliminates the problem of putting it in the wrong way. With a cable, it's too easy for the magnets to connect the opposite ways and bring your device, which is probably why Sony has never made magnetic cables.
Mangoniter said:
Also I'm a bit confused about Lollipop for this device. Apparently there is an officially version for the GP Edition which will be ported over to the normal edition. Right now I'm on stock Android (4.4.4) but I want to install a custom ROM as soon as possible. Should I wait for Lollipop or will this take another few weeks/months?
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The first port of the Lollipop GPE is here (unlocked bootloader (UB) only at time of this post):
http://goo.gl/7RtQ7o
The Kitkat GPE port is available for both locked and unlocked bootloaders:
http://goo.gl/HjAnzC
They are excellent.
Mangoniter said:
And is there any ROM/kernel combination you can recommend? Right now I'm thinking about using SlimKat.
Thanks for your help.
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The recommended practice is to use the kernel that comes zipped with the ROM so you have one that works as intended for installation. I would look through the ROM's threads for other kernel recommendations.
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Wow, thank you so much for this detailed answer. I really appreciate it.
The Lollipop port looks pretty good but I'll probably wait a little longer before I flash anything. The magnetic adapter should arrive in a few days and I'll just mark both connectors to avoid any mistakes.
Thanks again and have a good day!
This is a good thread been an android fan for a few years upgrading slowly and bought this lovely monster. Little niggles is its sometimes unresponsive pressing the power button and sometimes slows down for no reason. Stamina not really helpful so will try battery guru. Rooted now and xposed on it running greenify and bootmanager running better. Installed dual recovery and now pondering on the next steps to go.
My phone arrived a few days ago, let me provide an update and ask a few more question in bold:
- great device, very happy.
- it came with 4.4.4 (14.4.A.0.108), I'm not sure if the vendor (Expansys UK) applied updates (the unit is new but the box not sealed) or came like this from Sony. I won't root until Lollipop issues resolved, my biggest reason to root is for host file editing (Adaway)
- after peeling off the heavy duty screen protection (not ASF, the thing that comes with most you are supposed to remove) I applied a screen protector. I was going to order an Illumishield but they were too expensive (about $20 including shipping for 2 pairs of front and backs) and would take at least 10 days (probably more given time of year) to be shipped from US to UK. Instead I bought ebay 360780294389, 5 pack (fronts only) for about $4. I applied the first one, no problems, screen looks good, not too shiny. I have not removed the plastic layer (with instructions) on the back, I thought about applying one of my screen protectors on the back but these are somewhat firm plastic, I presume the ones intended for back are more flexible/different?
- I've placed the phone in a case (and so the back protection should be OK). I do not recommend 121248924363, it may work if you straighten out the back and use glue to stick the rubber and plastic pieces together but overall it felt like something from a dollar store. I recommend ebay 181400289992. This won't protect against heavy bashing but provides good feel in hand and scratch/slip protection to the back without being too thick. I had to widen the magnetic charging port, it would not accommodate the plug. I am using the cable removed from genuine Sony DK30. After much thought, I went with this over Magnector for peace of mind. No brand cheap stuff off ebay for some accessories are fine, I would never risk it with batteries, chargers, etc. The cable would fairly easily come loose without the case, with the case it's really good and only comes off when I want it to. With the case it won't fit the dock (even with the wider case option) so you would have to sandpaper it to make it wider. I will order another DK30 and take the cable out to have a second cable.
If I use the phone more like a tablet at home/office, is it better to keep it plugged in (fully charged) or unplug/run down and charge back up again? Also, is it possible to switch off the green LED signalling charge above 90%?
Somewhat related, must the power button really be used to wake device? I was expecting tapping on screen would do it. Power button is a bit difficult to hit with the case.
I installed a few apps from Google Play, mostly from the big players. Is it safe to assume all apps have been vetted properly? (like Apple store) Some apps require access to things that don't make any sense, so I avoid them. Also, when an app has access to certain things e.g. SD media card read/write, am I correct this is always restricted to the sandbox of the app and not full system/card wide?
I will be migrating my web surfing from PC to ZU. On PC, I've used Firefox with various add-ons and, most importantly, an edited hosts file for over 5 years now. For hosts file, it seems Adaway simplifies the manual editing but all this requires root. For now, I'll put up with ads, need to read up still on rooting. Having been a long time FF user, I tried the Android app but was disappointed it is noticeable slower to load pages and does not scroll smootly like Chrome. I tried Puffin which seemed OK, quiet fast. I have not tried Dolphin or Opera which seem to be the other big ones but I have a feeling I'll keep using Chrome. It seems most optimized, in a way it feels like part of the OS and not "an app" on top.
Chrome doesn't support add-ons, which I thought would be a deal breaker but thinking about it almost all of my FF add-ons on PC are to undo the functionality lost over the years with FF updates- mostly looks, so not relevant to Chrome on Android. At this stage, the biggest miss is my Youtube experience for which I used GreaseMonkey scripts on FF PC. The Youtube app plays videos fine but the interaction is so minimalist- no comments, can't easily jump from a video to user page, etc. Playing video via Chrome results in very choppy quality.
After about 10 hours of web browsing with Chrome, my biggest annoyances (besides the adds I will address with root later) is not being able to make the "request dekstop site" option stick. With a display size this big in widescreen mode, I find almost always prefer the original site over mobile versions or apps. I like the notification function from apps, but wish it could be represented in widgets like tiles on Windows. But, in general both apps and mobile look a bit childish on the ZU.
Is Chrome generally the best overall experience on the ZU? I'm particularly interested in non-Chrome fans, like FF users on PC. I have heard hit & miss things about Dolphin and Opera, I will probably try them in a few days but interested in the community view.
I have to find a way to get my bookmarks and passwords from PC to ZU. I see a few opions, I don't want to do this via sync so I would probably go via SD card.
2 misc questions:
The Google search widget: I thought when I tried this in the store, clicking on the search box (not the microphone) brought up the keyboard on top of the home screen (not a full new screen). Am I misremembering?
The charger (EP880) whines already. I'm used to chargers eventually whining after some months but not from day 1. Is it just mine or are they all like this?
I put on ilLumishield screen protectors front and back on my Z Ultra today, screen looks really good.
Unfortunately, detritus and bubbles are underneath, a little disappointed and distracting. But I really like the illumishield, and the feel and feedback from the screen is very good.
Also highly recommend Bryson Screen Cleaner, got it for my bare screen on Xperia J. Phenomenal! Cleans without streaks, although smells disgusting. Screen on Sony Vaio notebook computer ? is the cleanest since it was new.
Rubber plastic case, which is basic, but no longer care for. So, have to look for another GOOD phone case.
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frothe3 said:
I put on ilLumishield screen protectors front and back on my Z Ultra today, screen looks really good.
Unfortunately, detritus and bubbles are underneath, a little disappointed and distracting. But I really like the illumishield, and the feel and feedback from the screen is very good.
Also highly recommend Bryson Screen Cleaner, got it for my bare screen on Xperia J. Phenomenal! Cleans without streaks, although smells disgusting. Screen on Sony Vaio notebook computer ? is the cleanest since it was new.
Rubber plastic case, which is basic, but no longer care for. So, have to look for another GOOD phone case.
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Thanks, unfortunately this does not answer any of my questions.
Can you tell me if the back protector with your illumishield is different/thinner material or just like the front?

[Q] Anyone tried putting ZU on a VR headset?

That 6.4" display seems to be great for a VR headset.
Anyone have any success?
What model?
dennnnnnnis said:
That 6.4" display seems to be great for a VR headset.
Anyone have any success?
What model?
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i tried the colorcross vr and it is to small
QuBe2 said:
i tried the colorcross vr and it is to small
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I got mine in the colorcross. Had to hacksaw the lips off one side which was easy and you can slide it in from the side.
Only problem is the images are slightly too far apart due to the size of the screen although it does work well in some apps
I actually tried mine with one of those cardboard vr headsets that I bought on Amazon. Works pretty well with some of the vr apps but I couldn't get the magnet switch to work. Again, the ultra was too big for it but I held it in place with one hand and the visuals were pretty awesome. I know they sell extra large kits, but not sure if I want to buy another one just yet.
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cupidstunt said:
I got mine in the colorcross. Had to hacksaw the lips off one side which was easy and you can slide it in from the side.
Only problem is the images are slightly too far apart due to the size of the screen although it does work well in some apps
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Same here, bought the Colorcross Headset because it said would work with Phonoes & Tablets up to 7".
Yeah...sure...7". Not even the Z Ultra does fit in, had to cut some pieces out to make it fit. No chance that anything bigger than the ZU will ever fit.
Then there was the Problem with the lenses, because of the Size of the Display, they need to be further away from the screen and the space between those two lenses needs to be bigger, I managed to get them out of the Headset and glued them back in (about 3mm further back and 8mm further away from each other) - with a cardboard holder i made myself.
That "thing" looks horrible now, but it does the Job. Although, the experience isn't that great with the ZU because of the low DPI of the Screen.
adrianmignogna said:
Same here, bought the Colorcross Headset because it said would work with Phonoes & Tablets up to 7".
Yeah...sure...7". Not even the Z Ultra does fit in, had to cut some pieces out to make it fit. No chance that anything bigger than the ZU will ever fit.
Then there was the Problem with the lenses, because of the Size of the Display, they need to be further away from the screen and the space between those two lenses needs to be bigger, I managed to get them out of the Headset and glued them back in (about 3mm further back and 8mm further away from each other) - with a cardboard holder i made myself.
That "thing" looks horrible now, but it does the Job. Although, the experience isn't that great with the ZU because of the low DPI of the Screen.
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Mo3d is amazing if you want to watch either 2d or 3d films with the ultra. You can decrease the ipd so the images are moved closer together.

[Q] Omate TS Camera Module Replacement/Relocation

Hello,
I would like to replace the Omate TrueSmart camera module with a higher quality lens an/or one with higher resolution.
My application does not require the device to be worn on the wrist or even on a human. If there is no way to utilized a better camera module (again fit and form are of no concern, as I will be designing my own packaging), then at a very minimum I would like to move the camera module approximately 6 inches away from the screen (i.e. I think I just need a ribbon cable with the correct connectors).
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thx
I've been wondering this myself - could you just buy the correct camera module connector, and add the drivers?
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I've been wondering this myself - could you just buy the correct camera module connector, and add the drivers?
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The drivers are the major problem here, you will have to find something that is working in a similar device to get it working, you cannot compile the driver yourself.
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The drivers are the major problem here, you will have to find something that is working in a similar device to get it working, you cannot compile the driver yourself.
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For instance, the camera module from the second version of the ZGPAX S8, which is a true 3mp module, with drivers available?
There's nothing wrong with the camera module. It's all soft side, in fact the module is a newer version of what was in the iPhone 3.
Lokifish Marz said:
There's nothing wrong with the camera module. It's all soft side, in fact the module is a newer version of what was in the iPhone 3.
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Do you know a source for buying components to relocate the camera module (i.e. ribbon and connectors)? I need the camera to be located about 6 inches away from the board.
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Do you know a source for buying components to relocate the camera module (i.e. ribbon and connectors)? I need the camera to be located about 6 inches away from the board.
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Connectors can probably be sourced from a site like Alibaba or Aliexpress. Might require a bit of wading through pages of close but not it connectors.
Another alternative is it pull one from another device that uses the same connector. A bulk lot sale of dead phones should get you the right connector.
The cable is hard, that's usually a custom job. There is a way you can make your own. This is similar to the original cable but it limits you to ideally placing the PCB and the module in the same enclosure.
Another option is to use an old IDE cable, and fine solder the cable to the PCB and module. Then just hot glue after to minimize stress on the connection points. This allows you to have the PCB in one enclosure and the module in another, like so;
[PCB+Cable]-------[Cable+Module]
If this is a project you don't want made public, PM me with a layout and usage case and I'll see if I can offer a more specific solution.

Bugs and defects that I should be aware about?

Hey guys, I was planning on switching from a Zenfone 2 4/64gb to a Z5 or even Z3 compact, mainly due to the size. I love my Zenfone, but I loathe it's hugeness, and I'm a "Compact" lover. Now, with the improvements made over the Z3 compact, I'm leaning towards the Z5C. But since the device is relatively new, I'm having troubles finding any defects or stuff that I should know/expect about (like z3's self-cracking screen). What other issues should I expect or be aware?
Here's what I expect:
1) Probable overheating due to SD810 -- 50/50 though since I think they put in the newer SD810, v2.1 I think?
2) Possible faulty flap(s) that compromises water/dust proof
3) Usual button wear and tear, or button defect -- how long before a button wears out?
4) A couple of software issues
What I'm thinking about:
1) Does this device have the self-cracking screen/glass like Z3C?
2) Does this device have a faulty headphone port like Z3C?
3) How large of a gap is there between Z5C and Z3C with regards to specs and features?
4) With respect to #3, is Z5C worth it over the Z3C in the performance and camera aspects?
5) Coming from a Zenfone 2 4/64gb, would it be a downgrade or an upgrade?
Thanks a lot for those who answer!
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Hey guys, I was planning on switching from a Zenfone 2 4/64gb to a Z5 or even Z3 compact, mainly due to the size. I love my Zenfone, but I loathe it's hugeness, and I'm a "Compact" lover. Now, with the improvements made over the Z3 compact, I'm leaning towards the Z5C. But since the device is relatively new, I'm having troubles finding any defects or stuff that I should know/expect about (like z3's self-cracking screen). What other issues should I expect or be aware?
Here's what I expect:
1) Probable overheating due to SD810 -- 50/50 though since I think they put in the newer SD810, v2.1 I think?
2) Possible faulty flap(s) that compromises water/dust proof
3) Usual button wear and tear, or button defect -- how long before a button wears out?
4) A couple of software issues
What I'm thinking about:
1) Does this device have the self-cracking screen/glass like Z3C?
2) Does this device have a faulty headphone port like Z3C?
3) How large of a gap is there between Z5C and Z3C with regards to specs and features?
4) With respect to #3, is Z5C worth it over the Z3C in the performance and camera aspects?
5) Coming from a Zenfone 2 4/64gb, would it be a downgrade or an upgrade?
Thanks a lot for those who answer!
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1)heat is most definitely an issue, mine gets so hot I have to stop using it..
2) only one flap and it seems pretty sturdy. This is my first phone witg a flap since old flip phones though.
3) I use double tap to wake, but I have on my eBay watch list new button ribbons and they're surprisingly cheap for a fingerprint scanner!
4) my phone is only days old so I haven't gotten much use on it yet. I need to root and whatnot to get the functionality I want. It's no cm12 but it's not anywhere near as bad as touch wiz.
1) yes, white phones are more prone to it I believe. I found a few threads while looking up what type of screen these have.
2) I came from Samsung s4 mini so I couldn't answer that.
3) the z3 compacts flaps and USB location was enough for me to settle with the s4 mini, i really hate side charging. Z5 fingerprint scanner was the selling point for me on the upgrade!
4) the Z3C is rated for better battery, but the Z5C has a better front camera. Other than that it comes down to ergonomics and processors, which Z5C wins hands down.
5) http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Asus-ZenFone-2,Sony-Xperia-Z5-Compact/phones/9050,9611 I'd say a downgrade in specs, but upgrade in ergonomics just witg size and screen.
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1)heat is most definitely an issue, mine gets so hot I have to stop using it..
2) only one flap and it seems pretty sturdy. This is my first phone witg a flap since old flip phones though.
3) I use double tap to wake, but I have on my eBay watch list new button ribbons and they're surprisingly cheap for a fingerprint scanner!
4) my phone is only days old so I haven't gotten much use on it yet. I need to root and whatnot to get the functionality I want. It's no cm12 but it's not anywhere near as bad as touch wiz.
1) yes, white phones are more prone to it I believe. I found a few threads while looking up what type of screen these have.
2) I came from Samsung s4 mini so I couldn't answer that.
3) the z3 compacts flaps and USB location was enough for me to settle with the s4 mini, i really hate side charging. Z5 fingerprint scanner was the selling point for me on the upgrade!
4) the Z3C is rated for better battery, but the Z5C has a better front camera. Other than that it comes down to ergonomics and processors, which Z5C wins hands down.
5) http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Asus-ZenFone-2,Sony-Xperia-Z5-Compact/phones/9050,9611 I'd say a downgrade in specs, but upgrade in ergonomics just witg size and screen.
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Thanks a lot for the answers! Oh, so the dreaded self-cracking screen is also seen in the z5c. Anyway, as much as I want to get one, it looks like it's too expensive here, so I may have to think about it again. Thanks again! I'll close this thread down.

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