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Hello,
Sorry for my bad english.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2, and flash'ed the Resurrection Remix 1.7 ROM. BEST!
What I missed is a Taskmanager like the original Samsung ROM Taskmanager.
You can see what is open (okay... I can see this with ICS too), whats in the Background open (this I cant see), and how much RAM it eats /how much RAM is free...
I looked at the Play Store, and there are Apps, they are old (are they still ICS compatible?), or they are ugly or have Ads like "Wanna have better Battery!?! OMG!!! Download my all-can-fix-app here".
I dont want anything, only the funktion, whats in the Background open, and how much RAM it eats... Like in the Samsung ROM with the one widget.
Sorry for my bad english.
Hope you can help me. Becouse I dont find something...
Thanks.
+1 I was wondering about this too.
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you dont need a task manager on android
android manages ram differently
if you kill a app with a taskmanager
android will just restart it= wastage of battery life
apps in the back ground are frozen and wont affect performance but u can remove them in the ics multitasking UI
bluefa1con said:
...you dont need a task manager on android...
...android manages ram differently...
...if you kill a app with a taskmanager
android will just restart it= wastage of battery life...
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Thanks for the answer.
But when I will watch/show (...my english... ugly!) what is in the background? Or what CPU eats?
Can ICS show me this too? Becouse I doesent find enything. In Stuck ICS from Samsung, I can watch it, and so I can see, for example:
I have installed "Testapp A", and I wonder, why the battery will be so short, I go to Samsung Taskmanager, and it shows me that the App running in the Background, so I go to Play Store, and delete this app. So it dont running more...
With Stuck ICS I wonder, why the battery goes down... I looked. And an App was in Background. A Game... So I have deleted this crap.
Do you know what I mean? Its for me more Diagnostical, I know, when I kill something, it will restart.
Maybie it´s not a Taskmanager, it´s more a Diagnostical app?
Sorry for this english.
bluefa1con said:
you dont need a task manager on android
android manages ram differently
if you kill a app with a taskmanager
android will just restart it= wastage of battery life
apps in the back ground are frozen and wont affect performance but u can remove them in the ics multitasking UI
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what a bunch of bull
background apps are frozen on iOS, not on android, they fully run, hence the term "full multitasking".
also, just services will restart on their own, normal apps, like youtube, games and so on are fully quittable, why would they restart? do you think all your apps run all the time?
the more ram is consumed, the more power the device uses, so exitting background apps saves battery.
i am also still looking for a good task manager like the samsung stock one, because in ics, some apps just don't quit, like skifta, with the dlna server running all day the battery life goes down massively and swiping it away in the recent apps screen just doesn't quit it.
Chef_Tony said:
what a bunch of bull
background apps are frozen on iOS, not on android, they fully run, hence the term "full multitasking".
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Actually it's not a bunch of bull. You can freeze apps on android using Titanium Backup. Also you can disable some apps that you don't use (not all of them allow it) or don't use frequently with just app manager in system settings. Then you can re-enable them when needed.
You can try apps like Task Killer, etc... (and make sure you kill it too so it's not on all the time), but it's not as good as freezing with TB.
Good luck.
Don't know if this is "ugly", but it's ad-free anyway - Diagnosis.
I like it anyway, and the dev is great, posts on the apps section. His SD Maid app is a godsend.
I use ES Task Manager. Find it useful and you can also mange cache and startup programs.
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I have tried this on both my Razr ICS and my gf's Galaxy Note ICS and it works.
On both phones, they are pretty fast until you start to install stuff.
After applying these, the phone is much smoother even with around 200 user apps.
1) Use Autokiller memory optimisation, root needed.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autokiller&hl=en
This is a common method which android veterans already know, which is to change android's internal autokill values. This is not the same as task killers!
On both phones, I use "aggressive" preset.
For other tweaks like V8 supercharger, it's recommended values are closed to autokiller's "Extreme".
I added more tweaks to the post.
2) Turn on Force GPU rendering under developers mode. Most games and apps seem to work fine with it on.
3) Turn on background process limit to 4: I thought this is interesting (from JerseyFF) so I tried it out, seem good for daily use.
(update: after a while setting for this will revert to standard, there's no way to fix this yet)
4) Use Nova launcher. (root required for Motorola widgets)
The default launcher is smooth but it likes to reload every now and then (even with default autokill values). Tried Apex launcher but it's not as smooth as default launcher. Nova launcher is close to the default launcher which allow more tweaks and and yet it is buttery smooth. Do not update to beta though. I tried it and it's a lagfest.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher&hl=en
VM heap size app no longer works after ICS update. If anyone knows how to fix that, please share.
Feel free to add any more tweaks or tips to make RAZR ICS better.
Is this at all somehow related to the Background Process Limit that is able to be set under Developer Options with ICS now?
It has a Standard Limit setting, No background processes, and At most 1 (through 4) processes for options.
Does anyone know what the value for Standard is?
In background process limit, it limits a number of background apps running, while the autokill values limit the number of bg apps running based on the amount of memory left, and killing off lower priority processes first.
The default values for background process limit is therefore "varies".
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Updated first post with more tweaks.
This is my favorite launcher. Smooth... I am using it since I got the RAZR.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nemustech.launcher
Nikorasu said:
I have tried this on both my Razr ICS and my gf's Galaxy Note ICS and it works.
On both phones, they are pretty fast until you start to install stuff.
After applying these, the phone is much smoother even with around 200 user apps.
1) Use Autokiller memory optimisation, root needed.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autokiller&hl=en
This is a common method which android veterans already know, which is to change android's internal autokill values. This is not the same as task killers!
On both phones, I use "aggressive" preset.
For other tweaks like V8 supercharger, it's recommended values are closed to autokiller's "Extreme".
I added more tweaks to the post.
2) Turn on Force GPU rendering under developers mode. Most games and apps seem to work fine with it on.
3) Turn on background process limit to 4: I thought this is interesting (from JerseyFF) so I tried it out, seem good for daily use.
4) Use Nova launcher. (root required for Motorola widgets)
The default launcher is smooth but it likes to reload every now and then (even with default autokill values). Tried Apex launcher but it's not as smooth as default launcher. Nova launcher is close to the default launcher which allow more tweaks and and yet it is buttery smooth. Do not update to beta though. I tried it and it's a lagfest.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher&hl=en
VM heap size app no longer works after ICS update. If anyone knows how to fix that, please share.
Feel free to add any more tweaks or tips to make RAZR ICS better.
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Wow the auto killer is quite the find! Sped up my phone allot. Still running quite hot though
Thanks!
Thanks for the info, I'll confirm that upon bootup after applying the Aggressive setting, I tried scrolling around the Motoblur homescreen and thought it was smoother. But then the Superuser allowance for Autokiller kicked in right in the middle of me scrolling around and I noticed quite a difference in scrolling speed, it just suddenly got faster and smoother and the framerate looked as if it had increased by about 5 FPS. I also did tweaks #2 and 3 as well, but I think Autokiller makes the biggest difference. A good find for sure!
greyanaroth said:
Wow the auto killer is quite the find! Sped up my phone allot. Still running quite hot though
Thanks!
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Use setcpu and create profiles to set cpu speed lower when screen off and when battery is overheating. There's a free, older ver on xda.
Also you can use juicedefender to make your 3g connection turn off when screen is off. This should also help keep your phone temp down when you're not using it. Note that it will turn itself on every few min to receive whatsapp, mms and emails etc. (not for whatsapp hoes)
Hi, thanks for your tips. I don't know what lag experience you experiment but I hope this works for my RAZR lags. What is happen to my RAZR is that when I enter to apps drawer, non of the icosns appear and instead the "loading circle" takes place until the apps appears. Also when I exit any app and go to home, none of the icons of widget appears, they take half second to reapper.
e-drian said:
Hi, thanks for your tips. I don't know what lag experience you experiment but I hope this works for my RAZR lags. What is happen to my RAZR is that when I enter to apps drawer, non of the icosns appear and instead the "loading circle" takes place until the apps appears. Also when I exit any app and go to home, none of the icons of widget appears, they take half second to reapper.
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Same here!
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e-drian said:
Hi, thanks for your tips. I don't know what lag experience you experiment but I hope this works for my RAZR lags. What is happen to my RAZR is that when I enter to apps drawer, non of the icosns appear and instead the "loading circle" takes place until the apps appears. Also when I exit any app and go to home, none of the icons of widget appears, they take half second to reapper.
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That's called redraw. Try using apex and there is an option for keeping the launcher in memory so it loads faster
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Nikorasu said:
4) Use Nova launcher. (root required for Motorola widgets)
The default launcher is smooth but it likes to reload every now and then (even with default autokill values). Tried Apex launcher but it's not as smooth as default launcher. Nova launcher is close to the default launcher which allow more tweaks and and yet it is buttery smooth. Do not update to beta though. I tried it and it's a lagfest.
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How can you use Motorola widgets in Nova? I can't find this function.
aaatoel said:
How can you use Motorola widgets in Nova? I can't find this function.
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Moto widgets only work on moto launcher
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aaatoel said:
How can you use Motorola widgets in Nova? I can't find this function.
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When I first installed Nova launcher, it asks for root access when going into widgets.
Try going to Nova settings ->Drawer-> Check Widgets in drawer (requires root permissions for system app)
Moto widgets like fav. contacts doesn't work well because I can't "pull down"... but it's there, including Motocast widget.
You may want to manually grant Nova launcher root access.
e-drian said:
Hi, thanks for your tips. I don't know what lag experience you experiment but I hope this works for my RAZR lags. What is happen to my RAZR is that when I enter to apps drawer, non of the icosns appear and instead the "loading circle" takes place until the apps appears. Also when I exit any app and go to home, none of the icons of widget appears, they take half second to reapper.
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tudork said:
Same here!
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This is why I'm using Nova launcher instead. There's a free version, do try it. It may still take a while to load the app drawer icons after playing a game, but the 'redraw' for Nova's desktop pages are pretty fast. I also liked how it switched to a tablet version when I'm using Webtop mode.
Do try Apex as well. I didn't like it as it felt laggy when I'm scrolling my desktop pages few months back. It may have improved now and many users are complimenting it. As for myself, I have already bought Nova Prime and I'm sticking to it.
Hi,
I just switched from Apple and bought my first Android Phone. I am loving the overall experience of Andriod and the power of the SIII but sometimes, it gives me a headache.
Often times, the phone becomes quite sluggish and unresponsive for a short time and then gets back to normal. This usually happens at the home screen and the phone takes a while to redraw the screens. The phone becomes very sluggish when moving from one screen to the next.
Sometimes I notice sluggishness in the contacts and in the messages.
I have tried Apex and Nova launchers too and am currently using GO Launcher. It is great and I was loving it all the way but after about 10 days of use, even GO launcher has become sluggish and during this time, I did not make changes to the phone nor added any new apps. It seems like the RAM is full with apps and little resources available to the launcher itself. I feel Andriod can do better with RAM management.
How can I speed up my phone ? Optimize my RAM / CPU resources ? Is there a solution or do I have to live with it ? I can't imagine a phone so powerful behaving this way.
Please Help ! Thanks.
I am using the I9300 with 4.1.2
Hi
The reason for this is sometimes the ram becomes full and to free it up android starts killing up processes, including the Launchers too.
The best solution would be to jack up the RAM, but that's not possible.
One way you can avoid it for 90% (if not 100%) is by using Nova Launcher.
Go to Nova Settings -> Scroll to the bottom -> Advanced -> Check on Aggressive Desktop.
What it'll do is that it'll try to keep the launcher in memory as much as possible reducing the redraws and slugginess.
It doesn't work always, but for most of the part it does.
Root your phone and install a custom kernel such as siyah. Allows you to adjust certain gpu and cpu options as well as deliver far better sound.
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Yes, rooting seems to be an option but that is the different route. I would like to try out the non rooting solutions first. I even installed Start Up Auditor and Watchdog, well theoratically it seems to be working but in the real sense, not most effective.
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Make sure "Power saving" is off
Make sure you havent accidentally activated power saving mode, it makes the phone noticeably sluggish and scrolling skip frames.
Turn off animations in developers settings or set to .05
jje
Ok let's get it started.
Install nova or apex and enable keep in memory from their settings.
Disable ripple effect in lock screen settings.
Go in application settings - all and disable following.
S voice
S suggest
Samsung applications
Video hub
Music hub
Everything Samsung which has a small blue cloud as an icon, there will be 7-8 apps.
If you only use Gmail. And don't use email app, you can disable it and also exchange services.
Disable flipboard
Disable everything Yahoo.
Disable live wallpaper and use a static one.
Have only one weather widget installed at one time. I would say default weather widget is good enough.
You will gain good amount of ram.
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JJEgan said:
Turn off animations in developers settings or set to .05
jje
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+1
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alphauby said:
Yes, rooting seems to be an option but that is the different route. I would like to try out the non rooting solutions first. I even installed Start Up Auditor and Watchdog, well theoratically it seems to be working but in the real sense, not most effective.
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These are good for finding the problematic apps but I would not recommend these to be run in background permanently.
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omeryounos said:
Ok let's get it started.
Install nova or apex and enable keep in memory from their settings.
Disable ripple effect in lock screen settings.
Go in application settings - all and disable following.
S voice
S suggest
Samsung applications
Video hub
Music hub
Everything Samsung which has a small blue cloud as an icon, there will be 7-8 apps.
If you only use Gmail. And don't use email app, you can disable it and also exchange services.
Disable flipboard
Disable everything Yahoo.
Disable live wallpaper and use a static one.
Have only one weather widget installed at one time. I would say default weather widget is good enough.
You will gain good amount of ram.
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If I have to do ALL this .... then what's the point to buying the best in the market ? There is no better method than using all these small tweaks ?
I mean a top notch phone with great hardware and software should be able to do fine just on its own (without the tweaks) ...
Anyway ,,, my animations are already set to .05. I tried Nova, but GO launcher is just much better and faster. There is nothing in the settings or an app, that can reserve more RAM for the desktop and keep the million apps from running in the background ? Even when I kill apps from Watchdog, they pop right up after a few seconds.
I was showing off my phone to a friend who owns Apple, and right there in the middle of my Demo, The curse began and my desktop took 10 seconds to load ... it was pretty embarassing.
alphauby said:
If I have to do ALL this .... then what's the point to buying the best in the market ?
SELL IT
jje
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alphauby said:
If I have to do ALL this .... then what's the point to buying the best in the market ? There is no better method than using all these small tweaks ?
I mean a top notch phone with great hardware and software should be able to do fine just on its own (without the tweaks) ...
Anyway ,,, my animations are already set to .05. I tried Nova, but GO launcher is just much better and faster. There is nothing in the settings or an app, that can reserve more RAM for the desktop and keep the million apps from running in the background ? Even when I kill apps from Watchdog, they pop right up after a few seconds.
I was showing off my phone to a friend who owns Apple, and right there in the middle of my Demo, The curse began and my desktop took 10 seconds to load ... it was pretty embarassing.
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But this is Android my friend vastly different from the generic iPhone where everything works out of the box and everything looks the same but you are highly restricted in what you can do.
With Android you can modify and change to your hearts content, my Galaxy S3 has none of the problems you have, it whizzes along with superb battery life, people have already given good advice to you, usually noobs are told to use the search function
BTW not a chance is Go Launcher better than Nova, the best launcher in the business
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jonny68 said:
But this is Android my friend vastly different from the generic iPhone where everything works out of the box and everything looks the same but you are highly restricted in what you can do.
With Android you can modify and change to your hearts content, my Galaxy S3 has none of the problems you have, it whizzes along with superb battery life, people have already given good advice to you, usually noobs are told to use the search function
BTW not a chance is Go Launcher better than Nova, the best launcher in the business
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And alphauby have a look at this thread....a solution to your problem.....be brave and root ur phone.....sammy are the easiest phones to root....coz of unlocked boot loader....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656
alphauby said:
.... GO launcher is just much better and faster. There is nothing in the settings or an app, that can reserve more RAM for the desktop and keep the million apps from running in the background ? Even when I kill apps from Watchdog, they pop right up after a few seconds.
I was showing off my phone to a friend who owns Apple, and right there in the middle of my Demo, The curse began and my desktop took 10 seconds to load ... it was pretty embarassing.
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I see from the above that you came from Apple... you know, you have the Android phone now, most of the stuff unfortunately have something to read or to set up. This is especially important for ANY apk which was not written specifically for I9300, as there are plenty of Android devices on the market.
and, typically for plenty: My IPhone was brilliant, and now I have to suffer, my, oh my!. Let's start from beginnig: you have changed the Launcher on I9300 for something what was not specifically designed for it (it is only COMPATIBLE, I mean: was not optimized). Try to replace it on iPhone, and then claim something, please.
OK, let's try to make your Go Launcher more playable now.
While on main screen, push menu button, then open preferences.
go to advanced, here you will find two important for you options:
1. System persistent and 2. Prevent force close.
Furthermore, unless you will root phone and uninstall/disable TW, it will be always somewhere in running processes.
Finally, please tell how many widgets do you have, Live wallpaper? etc.
Last but not least: you should look on the processes running in background rather than on apps. And feel free to use Go task switcher for that, it is add-on to Go Launcher, and free as well.
just don't use any task killers to clean your RAM, Android handles it pretty well and you're only messing up the system
Usually rooting is the best option as Samsung updates might be pushed before its stable.
If not turn off power saving option. And other small tweaks
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omeryounos said:
...Disable flipboard...
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Can I ask how you managed to do this (specifically Flipboard). I am running a typical stock International firmware that is rooted and have managed to safely remove a good deal of the junk/bloatware but Flipboard persists in returning upon reboot. Is there something I am missing? Any advise appreciated.
Noob android user here.
When I first got my s3 it was snappy and fast but after a year it has really slowed down. I have 4gb of free space and I also have tried cleaning cache.
What can I do to make it snappy again? any help would be appreciated.
I here talk about bloatware removal, What does it actually remove?
I highly recommend using Nova Launcher from the playstore. Go to developer settings and switch animations to .5, default is 1.0x.
Nova gives you more customization than touchwiz and from what I've read it uses less RAM than touchwiz. Win win.
In nova settings, also switch the transitions to fast.
Removing bloatware is self explanatory. You basically get rid of apps that you don't use that come pre installed on your device and you cannot actually uninstall.
Most custom roms are debloated. For this you need root access though.
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IXChicharitoXI said:
I highly recommend using Nova Launcher from the playstore. Go to developer settings and switch animations to .5, default is 1.0x.
Nova gives you more customization than touchwiz and from what I've read it uses less RAM than touchwiz. Win win.
In nova settings, also switch the transitions to fast.
Removing bloatware is self explanatory. You basically get rid of apps that you don't use that come pre installed on your device and you cannot actually uninstall.
Most custom roms are debloated. For this you need root access though.
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Well I am rooted and I am using nova because I used to have homescreen redraws.
uf21 said:
Well I am rooted and I am using nova because I used to have homescreen redraws.
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Which galaxy s 3 are you using? If you're rooted, have you tried different roms? Most roms come tweaked for better performance and debloated. Just read the OP to see what you're getting.
Check for any apps settings like Facebook, Twitter, weather, anything that may be syncing in the background.
Things like that take up RAM so when you use other apps it'll slow you down cause everything is working at once.
I highly suggest downloading Greenify from the playstore.
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The Fastest and the easiest way would be to switch to a custom ROM, especially slimmed down ones. I'm personally using Neat ROM Lite and I have been more than satisfied with its performance. I'm also using googy kernel v2.0 TDI with it since I believe that gives me more battery but that is optional.
If you don't want to change your ROM. The other quick fix you can do is, get xposed framework with per app settings module from below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072081
Make your launcher, phone and contacts app as always resident in memory. This will solve launcher redraws and slow opening of phone/contact app.
Once you done that, to kill off the lag install another app called greenify from market. This app will search for all other apps running persistently in background causing the lag. From the list of the app thus obtained, you can greenify the non-important ones i.e. it will make them exit as soon as you leave the app.
and don't ask questions in this section, please. it's against the rules
HI
bloatware removal is only done on custom ROms by developers.. you cant do it when you are on stock firmware .you can use applikations to clean out rubbish from phone.. for example clean master (free)
or remove uneccessary programs from startup - use startup manager free app from market.
i will try also restore phone to factory defaults.. dont forget to backup whats important.
hope will help.
Something about Touchwiz (wether you use the launcher or not) makes the phone slow at times. I have found that mods and roms seldom fix ALL slowdowns. They always occur from time to time.
The only real solution I've found was moving to AOSP (CM in my case). You get a couple of bugs, but the lag is completely gone. A trade off sadly. Worth trying though.
I own a LG G2 D802 and I have SlimKat 2.4 installed.
Often important applications like Nova Launcher, LMT or Firefox will be closed and have to reload. I think it is caused by the RAM management but every time I look at it more than 500mb are free so how could I improve this behaviour?
Thanks in advance
MaluNoPeleke said:
I own a LG G2 D802 and I have SlimKat 2.4 installed.
Often important applications like Nova Launcher, LMT or Firefox will be closed and have to reload. I think it is caused by the RAM management but every time I look at it more than 500mb are free so how could I improve this behaviour?
Thanks in advance
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dont worry!!!!
its quite common for the high end devices like yours...........there is no need to check for RAM usage...............
just enjoy your device........
if any lags occur then only close background processes........
and last thing dont use any task killers
No, not yet because at least Supercharged takes some time to install and configure which I don't want to spend every week when I flash a new weekly. I thought I could tweak some system settings with Trickster Mod or just modify some other applications settings.
But I don't know what causes this issue. Minfree should be okay.