Audio quality via 3.5mm adapter - LeEco Le Max 2 Questions & Answers

Hi, I'm planning to order Le Max 2 and I cannot find any comments about the audio quality via 3.5mm adapter.
I use Sennheiser IE80s which have a 3.5mm jack and I'm sure there are no USB CDLA headphones yet which will outperform IE80s so I'm left with the adapter or discrete digital to audio converter (DAC).
What are your thoughts about the audio quality via the adapter?
My worry is that the DAC in the adapter cable is very poor quality and sounds exceptionally bad.

From GSMarena review:
"Solid audio output
We were a little worried how dropping the dedicated audio jack will affect the quality of the output but the Le Max 2 showed that there’s nothing to worry about. Beside the inconvenience of having to carry an adapter around, the phablet really nailed this part of our test.
It delivered excellent output when used with an active external amplifier, getting top marks for clarity and garnishing them with nicely high volume levels. Degradation caused by headphones is minimal too with a moderate hike in stereo crosstalk being the only notable change. Volume remained high for a pretty great overall showing.
Source:
http://www.gsmarena.com/leeco_le_max_2-review-1449p6.php
(bottom part of the page)
I am still waiting for my Le Max 2 to arrive so I can't answer from personal experience
Hope this helps

Helps a lot, thanks!

An opposing view of user "smulik" can be found here:
http://forum.le.com/in/index.php?th...cdla-earphones-over-the-regular-3-5-mm.12259/

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best portable speakers for the transformer

hey guys i have look around the forums for the best portable speakers for the transformer but i have not found the information i am looking for
since you all know the TF speakers aren't the best i am looking for small perhaps battery operated speakers for my TF, now i have looked at the speakers people have mentioned in other threads but i am not sure if the sound on those particular speakers are any better then the ones the TF because the speakers some one may use on a phone may be quieter then one may use on a tablet
so if you guys could recommend some speakers perhaps around 20 bucks that would be great but if its more then is ok to
thanks in advance
hard to beat the x-mini II capsule speaker @£13 shipped from amazon uk
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Generation-Capsule-iPhone-Laptop-Speaker/dp/B001UEBN42
you can daisychain multiple units or do what i do and use a stereo splitter and 2 speakers to get stereo output, but even using just one it beats the TF speakers (and most laptops) comfortably for volume and delivers superior audio quality including decent bass response.
Look up "foxLv2 Portable Bluetooth Speakers" on Amazon.
(Sorry not alowed to put url being a new member )
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I just received Monster ClarityHD Precision Micro Bluetooth Speaker from amazon. Overall, its a pretty good speakers for the price $70.00 I was amazing at how far the range was. My tablet was 30 feet away from the speakers and it was still able to pull in the sound without any issues. There are buttons on the speaker that will let you could adjust the volume and also switch tracks. There is also a 3.5mm audio input jack which you could use instead of using bluetooth. The sound is pretty good. Much better then the speakers on the TF. Overall, I am pretty happy with the purchase. At first when I was trying to pair the speakers with my tablet I kept on getting FC with Prime 1.6. I eventually had to do a data wipe in order to get it to sync.
I got these a week or so ago. They put out pretty good quality sound considering the price and are very portable and cheap.
http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=1153862&pid=1218227994156
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X-Mini II Capsule Speaker
theabsurdman said:
hard to beat the x-mini II capsule speaker @£13 shipped from amazon uk
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Generation-Capsule-iPhone-Laptop-Speaker/dp/B001UEBN42
you can daisychain multiple units or do what i do and use a stereo splitter and 2 speakers to get stereo output, but even using just one it beats the TF speakers (and most laptops) comfortably for volume and delivers superior audio quality including decent bass response.
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I've received mine yesterday and I'm really really impressed about the volume and the sound quality for so little speakers..also very good the bass response..
I've bought only one to try it (13£ shipped from amazon uk) but I think I will buy at least another!
I recommend this one to everyone!!
I went with this one http://www.amazon.com/iHome-iHM60GT...733E/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1318962556&sr=8-3. It gets pretty loud and bass response is pretty good for such a small speaker. I picked mine up at Target so I could just return it if I didn't like it, but I like
When I connect BT speakers and watch video with DICE player it will slow down to an absolute slo-mo with no sound. Nobody else have that problem using BT speakers?

[Q] External Microphone in Headset Jack?

There are some external stereo microphones for IOS that plug into the headphone jack rather than the dock connector. For instance, the IK Multimedia iRig MIC Cast.
They claim that they work on Android as well.
Well, they may work, but do they provide better sound quality than the internal phone microphone, turning it into a decent digital recorder for music, for example? (with the right software, of course).
My question isn't really whether those microphones are better quality than the internal microphones, as I assume they are. But does the headphone jack on Android phones (mine is the Galaxy S4) really provide the input capability for better quality sound, including in stereo?
Of course that jack can transfer sound in both directions, headset and microphone, as it is a phone. For output, the phone provides quality stereo music output to headphones, as modern phones are also music players. However, the microphones on phone stereo headsets are generally low quality monaural microphones only suitable for phone calls, usually not better than the internal microphone, might be worse.
So the question is--is the input function of that jack capable of providing quality stereo input, if one has a quality stereo microphone attached? (No matter how good quality the microphone is, if that jack really cannot transmit that quality sound, but reduces it to a very low resolution and frequency-reduced monaural sound, no point at all in attaching such a microphone.
Anyone know about the input capabilities of the headphone jacks on Android phones. (If it varies from phone to phone, then how about mine, the Galaxy S4?)
Thanks in advance for your input.
Anyone?
Excellent line of thought. Where are the audiophiles? This may be a better option than an expensive Rode mic.
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Earphones suggestion for Poco F1

I have recently bought a Poco F1 and I need a good pair of earphones. I have a Samsung earphone, but I am afraid to use it. The last time I was in a Xiaomi service centre for my Mi A1, one of the technicians suggested me not to use Samsung earphones. He said the headphone jack on Samsung has a bit different shape even though 3.5mm headphone jack is universal. Samsung 3.5mm jacks are a bit narrow on the edge and thick at the bottom/end. Due to this structure, if it's pushed hard, the 3.5mm port may get damaged or loosen in a long run. After hearing this, I stopped using Samsung earphones (except Samsung devices) and now I am looking for a earphones which can produce perfect balanced music (not heavy bass or heavy treble). I was thinking of going for Xiaomi earphones, but the reviews are not good. Can someone please help me??
Thank you!!
I bought some Xiaomi Mi Youth earphones. Only about€5 and really nice sound quality (especially with the phone set to the right EQ for the earphones in settings)
Depends a bit on your taste, and the situation you want to use them.
For my home, I use a Sony MDR-10RNC, they are amazing in terms of sound quality. And I also got them pretty cheap, like 50 dollars, they were originally like 200 so I got a pretty got deal, sadly since they are also a bit old, like 6 years, you might have trouble to find them on that price.
For exterior, I use Bluetooth headphones, the Jaybird X2 you can find them also around the same price, or X1 cheaper, they sound quite great for bluetooth headphones, they are sweat proof, but I have use them on rains and never had a problem with them. They also deliver very good sound with poco, and to me they are very practical for subway or streets.
Hope it was from help!
Still using my Klipsch S4A II edition. Nice sound especially when listening to music with Viper4Android in it.
I am Using Apple Genuine 3.5mm .Perfect with "Mi Earbuds" in EQ Option.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
I have recently bought a Poco F1 and I need a good pair of earphones. I have a Samsung earphone, but I am afraid to use it. The last time I was in a Xiaomi service centre for my Mi A1, one of the technicians suggested me not to use Samsung earphones. He said the headphone jack on Samsung has a bit different shape even though 3.5mm headphone jack is universal. Samsung 3.5mm jacks are a bit narrow on the edge and thick at the bottom/end. Due to this structure, if it's pushed hard, the 3.5mm port may get damaged or loosen in a long run. After hearing this, I stopped using Samsung earphones (except Samsung devices) and now I am looking for a earphones which can produce perfect balanced music (not heavy bass or heavy treble). I was thinking of going for Xiaomi earphones, but the reviews are not good. Can someone please help me??
Thank you!!
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You can go for sennheiser one they are bit costly but has perfect balance between bass & treble. crystal clear sound as per my liking.
BUT what ever you go, go with earbuds which provide buttons so that you can change the song using it as in MIUI there's no provision to skip song via volume button on phone.
Oneplus 1st gen is also good option. (it has mic & 3 buttons and good sound at cheaper rate, afaik sennheiser one with same would cost you around twice as much)
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
I have recently bought a Poco F1 and I need a good pair of earphones. I have a Samsung earphone, but I am afraid to use it. The last time I was in a Xiaomi service centre for my Mi A1, one of the technicians suggested me not to use Samsung earphones. He said the headphone jack on Samsung has a bit different shape even though 3.5mm headphone jack is universal. Samsung 3.5mm jacks are a bit narrow on the edge and thick at the bottom/end. Due to this structure, if it's pushed hard, the 3.5mm port may get damaged or loosen in a long run. After hearing this, I stopped using Samsung earphones (except Samsung devices) and now I am looking for a earphones which can produce perfect balanced music (not heavy bass or heavy treble). I was thinking of going for Xiaomi earphones, but the reviews are not good. Can someone please help me??
Thank you!!
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interesting that you say that , thats why many complain sammy akg earphone is not working well with poco , i explain to a few people yet they are ignorant about it , lol
im using the Xiaomi Mi In-Ear Headphones Pro 2 / Quantie 2 which is present in the MIUI headphone settings.
curious anyone install soundabout app ? kept crashing
Xerk-Xes said:
im using the Xiaomi Mi In-Ear Headphones Pro 2 / Quantie 2 which is present in the MIUI headphone settings.
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How is it?? I placed order and cant wait for it to arrive...
Btw im still use Piston 3 and S8 Akg earphone at the moment...
Some offbeat ChiFi suggestions -
1. KZ ES4 (about 14$)
2. Rock Zircon (about 11$)
3. Tin audio T2 (about 35$)
All of them can be bought from aliexpress/gearbest and more than justify their price. Currently rocking an ES4 with my Poco and very happy with them. Hope it helps.
ronald_loulan said:
How is it?? I placed order and cant wait for it to arrive...
Btw im still use Piston 3 and S8 Akg earphone at the moment...
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They are excellent except the problem lies with the Poweramp or Pocophone being unable to play HiFi Flac files at 24bit via Direct HD.
I am using Viper4Android as main equalizer but havent tweaked it yet for this earphone as i am waiting for Android Pie Stable update for the Poco.
Keep your impedance low (true for wired earphones/headphones)
Good day, if you wanted to have better earphones just make sure to keep track with their impedances.
Keep your impedances in this range (earphones, IEMs, and the likes): 20 ohms or below, you can do up to 25 ohms max but that's really a gamble, I've seen that @prateekj1993 has posted a 25 ohm KZ ES4 and it works so I guess I'll adjust my recommendations up to 25 ohms as before I only suggest up to 20 ohms.
For headphones, you need to do lower impedance than earphones due to bigger speaker driver. You should keep your impedance below 16 ohms for higher peak volume, anything greater would make you crank you volume to max everytime as what I always did on my 19 ohms (passive mode) MDR-NC8 headphones. Active headphones with their own dedicated volume is an exception OFC.
Here's what I have:
1. KZ ZS6 (15 ohms).
2. KZ ZS5 (16 ohms).
3. MDR-NC8 (17 ohms active, 19 ohms passive).
I advice anyone posting here about their recommended earphones or IEMs to post the model name and the corresponding impedances. Thank you for reading.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
I have recently bought a Poco F1 and I need a good pair of earphones. I have a Samsung earphone, but I am afraid to use it. The last time I was in a Xiaomi service centre for my Mi A1, one of the technicians suggested me not to use Samsung earphones. He said the headphone jack on Samsung has a bit different shape even though 3.5mm headphone jack is universal. Samsung 3.5mm jacks are a bit narrow on the edge and thick at the bottom/end. Due to this structure, if it's pushed hard, the 3.5mm port may get damaged or loosen in a long run. After hearing this, I stopped using Samsung earphones (except Samsung devices) and now I am looking for a earphones which can produce perfect balanced music (not heavy bass or heavy treble). I was thinking of going for Xiaomi earphones, but the reviews are not good. Can someone please help me??
Thank you!!
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https://www.amazon.in/Focal-Sense-1...ords=focal&dpPl=1&dpID=31UFZZ8eYUL&ref=plSrch
You won't get to see such premium build and fantastic sound quality in this price range. This pair of earphones is bomb.
Xerk-Xes said:
They are excellent except the problem lies with the Poweramp or Pocophone being unable to play HiFi Flac files at 24bit via Direct HD.
I am using Viper4Android as main equalizer but havent tweaked it yet for this earphone as i am waiting for Android Pie Stable update for the Poco.
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Ohh man, i was really looking forward using that with poweramp...
Btw our DAC are not fully ultilise? Or Poco DAC sucks??
Well impedance is not a parameter for audioquality
If you have the money and you want one of the best planar magnetic inears: audeze isine 10 or isine 20
They sound like big overears of even like a soundsystem, amazing iem's i have the isine 20 and its par on par with the audeze lcd 3 bigger brother
ronald_loulan said:
Ohh man, i was really looking forward using that with poweramp...
Btw our DAC are not fully ultilise? Or Poco DAC sucks??
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I believe it's not fully utilized because the Direct HD used the 24 bit upon an update but unfortunately i messed it up by going into the Audio Settings of the Output which reverts it back to the 16 bit.
Otherwise the sampling frequency options work fine.
I recently bought the OnePlus Wireless Bullets.
Im really happy with those earphones so far
The magnetic functions work so far really well. Auto disconnect and auto connect work. The only thing that does not work is autoplay function when they are connected, but I wouldn't like it anyway.
They have a Type-C connector and Dash Charge.
jody2k said:
Well impedance is not a parameter for audioquality
If you have the money and you want one of the best planar magnetic inears: audeze isine 10 or isine 20
They sound like big overears of even like a soundsystem, amazing iem's i have the isine 20 and its par on par with the audeze lcd 3 bigger brother
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WTF dude, did you just say that impedance is not a parameter for audio quality? Impedance matching is the first thing you should do when you want to match your speaker/earphones/headphones to your amp. Anyways it is known that Poco F1 can drive in-ears up to 25 ohms so your isine 10 and 20 (both 24 ohms) is well within range.
FYI impedance dictates the volume and also how the audio quality behaves all-throughout the volume range. If you match your Poco to a 32 ohm headphones, you'll have a very low volume output even at 100%. Audio quality is nil when you can't hear a decent sound.
Do you know what people does when they blindly bought 32 ohm in ears for Poco? They complain that Poco's sounds too low. You're lucky that your isine is 24 ohms if you have that kind of mindset towards impedance.
I'd recommend you to buy a good DAC cable first since the audio output isn't good for me. You can get Venture Electronics Odyssey for budget or Sonata HD II for a bit higher price range.
For the IEM's, I'd say go for music/audio shops and audition each earphones you find there. Each one has different preference depending on music genres and artists. I currently use KZ ED16 which has balanced sound signature in case you want a reference.

How is the audio quality through the headphone jack?

I read a lot of threads back when the Poco F1 was released and a lot of people complained about low volume of audio output from headphone jack and low clarity.
It is very hard to compare audio quality if you dont have 2 devices side by side.
So I request people who have the Poco F1 and some other phone like the Redmi Note Pro, Moto, Nokia etc to compare the volume and audio clarity.
If you have MIUI device use the same audio settings.
Can anyone please do this?
Edit: Sorry for double post. Thread was not showing up so I replied in the other post.
Volume was really low for a while. Now it is fine. Audio quality seems good enough.
PlanDreaM said:
Volume was really low for a while. Now it is fine. Audio quality seems good enough.
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What about audio quality? Do you have any phone to compare side by side.
The internal speaker and loud and clear. It does seem to be a good bit better than my Mi Max on headphone jack. You shouldn't have a problem.
adfds said:
I read a lot of threads back when the Poco F1 was released and a lot of people complained about low volume of audio output from headphone jack and low clarity.
It is very hard to compare audio quality if you dont have 2 devices side by side.
So I request people who have the Poco F1 and some other phone like the Redmi Note Pro, Moto, Nokia etc to compare the volume and audio clarity.
If you have MIUI device use the same audio settings.
Can anyone please do this?
Edit: Sorry for double post. Thread was not showing up so I replied in the other post.
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3.5 Headphone sound is low compared to other devices ..
For my part, I'm really impressed by the sound quality of this device (for the headphone jack at least, I don't use the speakers for music).
I'm currently using a Sennheiser Momentum (Circum-aural, M2 model). I listen to music with it on my Honor 5C (previous phone), my Asus laptop (which has a great headphone jack). I'd say that, for a mobile phone, it's one of the best jack output you can get - which is especially impressive given the price tag of this device.
The crosstalk is pretty good, though the instruments are not as separated and the sound stage not as clear as on my laptop. The only problem you may face with this output if you are using high-impedance headphones, because the Pocophone doesn't have a very good output power.
That's all I have to say
puskar619 said:
3.5 Headphone sound is low compared to other devices ..
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What is the best budget earphone (below 20$) that can be used with Poco F1?? (should have enough bass and loudness)
With my samsung OME earphones it sounds very dry
I have seen some reviews saying KZ ES4 is quite good for the price?
will that work well with the POCO F1?
ClementNerma said:
For my part, I'm really impressed by the sound quality of this device (for the headphone jack at least, I don't use the speakers for music).
I'm currently using a Sennheiser Momentum (Circum-aural, M2 model). I listen to music with it on my Honor 5C (previous phone), my Asus laptop (which has a great headphone jack). I'd say that, for a mobile phone, it's one of the best jack output you can get - which is especially impressive given the price tag of this device.
The crosstalk is pretty good, though the instruments are not as separated and the sound stage not as clear as on my laptop. The only problem you may face with this output if you are using high-impedance headphones, because the Pocophone doesn't have a very good output power.
That's all I have to say
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I agree. Pocophone has one of the most impressive audio outputs I have ever had on a phone. Besides my Pocophone I have both an LG G7 and LG V10 so I know how well phone can sound with quality output. the Pocophone is really not too far behind them. That says something. Some people confuse audio quality with volume.
With Mi Sound Enhancer enabled with the right type of headphones it sounds very well and then you can further tweak it to your liking with the equalizer that is better than the one on LG phones. Very good spacious sound on the Pocophone.

Question Are stereo speakers balanced? And DAC for 3.5mm?

Hello,
Does sound coming out from front stereo speakers sound balanced? Does top or bottom speaker sound louder than the other?
And does it have powerful DAC for 3.5mm headphone port?
Last Xperia I had was Z5 Premium. It's speakers sounded very unbalanced. I don't remember which side, but one side was noticeably louder than the other, which was very annoying to listen to. The other phone I'm seriously considering is ROG Phone 5. It's got same size of speakers on the both end, so it's speakers are perfectly balanced, and also have powerful Quad DAC for 3.5 mm port. However, it's biggest cons are of course the cameras and screen if you compare with Xperia 1 III. I think I can let go of 3.5mm port, but if speakers don't sound balanced, it'd could be a deal breaker for me.
Sitti01 said:
Hello,
Does sound coming out from front stereo speakers sound balanced? Does top or bottom speaker sound louder than the other?
And does it have powerful DAC for 3.5mm headphone port?
Last Xperia I had was Z5 Premium. It's speakers sounded very unbalanced. I don't remember which side, but one side was noticeably louder than the other, which was very annoying to listen to. The other phone I'm seriously considering is ROG Phone 5. It's got same size of speakers on the both end, so it's speakers are perfectly balanced, and also have powerful Quad DAC for 3.5 mm port. However, it's biggest cons are of course the cameras and screen if you compare with Xperia 1 III. I think I can let go of 3.5mm port, but if speakers don't sound balanced, it'd could be a deal breaker for me.
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I don’t think anyone has the 1M3 yet. But as far as the DAC, I have the 1M2 and some high end in ear earphones from Campfire Audio and some from Sennheiser and I have a couple of expensive DACs that connect via USB C and honestly I get the same high quality sound with my external DACs as when I plug straight in to the 3.5mm port. I have some other earphones and headphones with a 4.4mm balanced cable so I use an external DAC for those, but mainly just plug in to my Xperia. I expect the same or better DAC in the new phone.
Are they using the S Master DAC or are they not disclosing what the DAC is?
The DAC is absolutely top notch. I have the fiio q5s and xduoo 05 bal. I think it's just as good as the xduoo and better than the fiio. The sound is tuned to be very smooth. Smoother than the two said DACs. So it's a god sent if you have bright sounding headphones too harsh to listen to.
As for the speakers, balanced, good but not impressive
i can confirm the 1 iii has a terrific built in DAC. i have some (IMO) high end IEMs. I tested my campfire audio atlas and polaris mk2. I also have a couple of ifi audio DACs that I think are well regarded (hip dac and an iDSD). plugging into the 1 iii directly in its headphone jack sounds great. i don’t notice any difference as compared to a separate DAC.
I have both Rog Phone5 and xperia1 iii, I think Rog Phone5 speaker effect is much better than xperia1 iii, as for the use of 3.5mm playback, Rog Phone5 performance is very bad, xperia 1iii seems to have a built-in amplifier but the decoding is still using the processor built-in dac, xperia 1iii has Sony's tuning so good listening experience

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