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I've seen a lot of youtube videos of the galaxy s II and from what I can tell, the screen is still oversaturated like the original galaxy s, with the same blue tint on white backgrounds. Any chance this would be adjusted, or even have a user-adjustable option, by release? I'm guessing a majority of people outside of forums don't care and prefer the gaudy colors, like how they crank up the color on new TVs and everyone's face looks red, because buyers prefer it. But an option would be much needed for those not so inclined to the heavy colors. Another thing I would want is a lower brightness setting. LCDs get washed out but AMOLEDs can handle lower settings and still have good contrast. With that, the ability to adjust the minimum and maximum threshold for the auto-brightness instead of one predefined setting, as well.
I doubt Samsung (or any other manufacturer) would let you modify that much in the settings. The phone is not a monitor, however I certainly see the possibilty of changing those options (or at least some) once some kind souls will start messing with the firmwares and kernels.
*cough* supercurio voodoo color *cough*
If it involves *cough* hacking *cough* I think I will have to pass. And yes, there are less industrious people around here as well.
i am pretty sure that the sgs 2 will have the same same over saturated colours and the tint(looking at review videos).i am not a fan of amoled i do like its blacks but the over saturation does my headache i prefer ips to amoled any day. if it was not their Soc's i'd never have bought sgs.
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*cough* supercurio voodoo color *cough*
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This.
Sent from my Captivate.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/27/nexus-s-2-3-3-update-adjusts-screens-color-temperature-we-go-e/
Or the Nexus S general forum. Fingers crossed.
A challenging task for the devs here ...........
I only see a blue tint when I tilt the angle of the screen. It doesn't take much to see it and becomes more extreme the more it's tilted. Looking straight on is fine. I didn't expect there to be perfect viewing angles but tilting just a little the blue tint is really prominent. Easily viewed on a pure white screen.
Great phone, though I want to use the device to watch videos and two things bother me: the blue tint when not viewed straight on and the over saturated colours. The colour green is very oversaturated much to the point where I think there's green in the videos showing up that shouldn't be there! I know you can adjust the colour tones, that include warm, cold and natural. If the image looks too yellow/green then the cold setting looks a bit more natural on some videos. I would have preferred a proper configuration for adjusting the complete colour balance.
The screen is wonderful but is let down by these two things. If it's something that can't be helped then that's the way it is, but it would be great to have more control over the colour settings and if the blue tint is really a limitation of the type of screen/glass, or the first batch of phones have an inherent fault with the screen?
On thing that is also off is the gamma curve!
greys become dark too fast, shadow details are crushed, even though the screen has the potential not to do this. On the contrary, with such black levels, the panel should be able to show more shadow details.
I suspect this is a battery saving choice, rather than a screen limitation. I'd rather have an accurate gamma though.
Google will need to allow custom color profiles in Android soon!
My Galaxy S has much more natural colors than the S2 that I just bought. I can't stand the disney colors! Hope some developer will be able to fix that soon!
Is it just me?
How come you guys say that the SGS2 has bluish tint? While when I compare it to my SGS(speedmod) and my friends SGS(voodoo) my SGS2 has a yellowish tint to it? I'm a bit confused. Anyway I've bought it and my only complaint is the sound. Voodoo control plus please!
There is some degree of control (not much though) over the saturation in Settings > Display > Background effect.
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How come you guys say that the SGS2 has bluish tint? While when I compare it to my SGS(speedmod) and my friends SGS(voodoo) my SGS2 has a yellowish tint to it? I'm a bit confused. Anyway I've bought it and my only complaint is the sound. Voodoo control plus please!
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The easiest way to see this is to view a white page/screen. Look straight on and then begin tilting the phone in any direction. The blue tint becomes noticeable and more extreme the more you tilt it. I wouldn't have a problem if it was only noticeable at extreme angles, but I do see it if the viewing angle isn't straight on. For phone use this is fine, not so bothered. Not so good when watching media.
Regarding the tint,
Also when i purchased the phone in may the gray was going into pink!
On later updates colors seem better! aswell i rember i posted a request in chainfires 3d drivers tread were i ask the guy kindly to add support for custom rgb mode nightmode tones...
So from his application if u play with nightmode function you can tilt your color as u like!
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On thing that is also off is the gamma curve!
greys become dark too fast, shadow details are crushed, even though the screen has the potential not to do this. On the contrary, with such black levels, the panel should be able to show more shadow details.
I suspect this is a battery saving choice, rather than a screen limitation. I'd rather have an accurate gamma though.
Google will need to allow custom color profiles in Android soon!
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There is actually a post/study about this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124669
Hi Guys - great phone which I've had a week or so now. Upgraded from the first Galaxy S.
Now I must admit to having very good eyesight (sometimes wish I couldn't see finer details!) and..
On white / grey images (download the various screen test apps to have a look for yourself)
The screen, when on a low brightness, is "muddy" and demonstrates a few vertical darker lines on the screen with mine showing quite a prominent one in the bottom right heading up about half way up the screen.
This is mostly visible when the brightness is at a minimum (regardless of auto or the powersaving options)
When the brightness is turned up it is barely visible, if at all... looks fantastic..
But.. at this point I preferred the screen on the Galaxy S which, when dimmed was more vibrant and didn't have this "problem"
Hands up who can see what I see? Any darker lines visible on your white / grey backgrounds? a side effect of this new subpixel arrangement? totally normal? some pixels not as bright in a row hence darker lines?
What do you guys think?
Cheers, B
W
Could you take a pic or something?
ASAP yes (no camera ironically so will have to ask a colleague!)
hold menu and press power button for screenshot off the device.
Yeah, mine set to minimum brightness and has some line artifacts like when LCD supplied with low voltage. (low brightness setting)
Easily noticeable when displaying grey colors.
I'm also using Screen Filter app, setting brightness even lower, some black points around 0.3cm is exposed at night.
Not sure those points are affected by anti-scratch film though.
Hola
I can confirm that I see the same "line banding" effect when using the device with low brightness. Like others have mentioned I also use the free Screen Filter app to get even lower brightness levels especially when reading stuff in bed in the near dark.
I would think this is a side issue with having the Super AMOLED Plus type screen but I guess only a Samsung tech can confirm.
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hold menu and press power button for screenshot off the device.
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Taking a screen shot wont show anything.. its the screen not the image
@ OP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13444483#post13444483
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065359
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062966
65" long exposure exposing some black spots.(digitally enhanced)
Lowest brightness + Highest brightness.
Wondering those spots are caused by screen protector or defective screen or limitation of current AMOLED's.
You can see there is some current leak.(It should be bezel-like black if it is ideally off)
http://img691.imageshack.us/i/93767661.png/
http://img69.imageshack.us/i/36284360.png/
Not sure I understand you cpu98!
Is there a consensus we all have this "problem" - i'm on the verge of taking it back for a refund and "monitoring things"
Anyone understand the tech / spoken to Samsung?
B
Not sure what those black spots are... is your camera messed up? There's spots on the right even off the phone...
Also yes, pure black for SAMOLED still produces SOME light, but it's almost indistinguishable to the human eye.
Take a picture of a dark grey image on low brightness and it should show the bands the best...
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65" long exposure exposing some black spots.(digitally enhanced)
Lowest brightness + Highest brightness.
Wondering those spots are caused by screen protector or defective screen or limitation of current AMOLED's.
You can see there is some current leak.(It should be bezel-like black if it is ideally off)
http://img691.imageshack.us/i/93767661.png/
http://img69.imageshack.us/i/36284360.png/
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Not sure what those black spots are... is your camera messed up? There's spots on the right even off the phone...
Also yes, pure black for SAMOLED still produces SOME light, but it's almost indistinguishable to the human eye.
Take a picture of a dark grey image on low brightness and it should show the bands the best...
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That spot off the phone is on the wall not defective cam. As you can see photos are taken at different angle. And it is visible in naked eye.
Yeah I like its screen very much. That black issues are no problem in real use.
I'm very satisfied.
I wanted to test the super amoled screen of our sgs3 and see that black black its display can show !
Since i came from an HD2 , i thought for a while that the sgs3 had the blackest black i've ever seen.. but then curiosity came in and after some tests, it turned out that e.g the galaxy s 2 has a better black and that on sgs3 it is still a bit grey !
Also cheched a black photo to compare it with Nokia's N8 clear black display ..and got beaten as well >_>
I use Multitouch Visible Test to test the black of the devices along with the contrast of the colors when i touch the screen.
All tests have been done at night or at a very dark environment since at day there seems to be no difference.
My question here is :
Can you please confirm that this is a common thing among all of sgs3 users and not a display problem of my display ?
The gs3 lacks the true blacks that are possible with oled tech. I presume it was a compromise Samsung is making for some technical reason.
At first the grey tinge bothered me at night. Now, I don't care; the screen still looks gorgeous.
That said, when you first power on the screen, there is a brief moment where the blacks are truly off - ala gorgeous true black. The tinge might be modifiable in firmware or drivers, but I bet Samsung is lighting all the pixels for a reason.
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The gs3 lacks the true blacks that are possible with oled tech. I presume it was a compromise Samsung is making for some technical reason.
At first the grey tinge bothered me at night. Now, I don't care; the screen still looks gorgeous.
That said, when you first power on the screen, there is a brief moment where the blacks are truly off. This might be modifiable in firmware or drivers, but I bet Samsung is doing lighting all the pixels for a reason.
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Exactly my observations and thoughts ! Thank you my friend at least it is not only me
of course it is still a great display .
I really feel its to reduce the black clipping in dark images and videos which are prevalent on the Galaxy Note and the galaxy nexus.
There was a software solution to reduce the clipping with an app called "Screen Adjuster" which, basically reduces the contrast and makes black "grey". The plus point was that, there is no clipping then.
So I guess samsung has done the same to the S3's screen as maybe they realized that the clipping us a Pentile HD AMOLED limitation.
This maybe helps?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688896
Surely if rooted it's possible to set up a toggle for the standard 'true black'? I used to use the s2 to read white text on a black background and it was very satisfying to see only the white text with absolutely no glow. This was one of the reasons I went for the s3 over the one x.
Okay so I have a S6 Edge in Black Sapphire 64GB from pre order and date on box is 03/19/2015 made in Vietnam and I got a Gold Platinum 64GB edge today date on box is 04/05/20015 made in Vietnam so compared both screen and the gold seems brighter on all setting and color seems better on gold here are some pics I know this has been brought up before but here are several pics what do you guys think!
Same display modes?
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Yes same display modes and settings I'm wondering if it's because the black has two weeks of use and gold is brand new.
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I now have an M9 because of the very problem you listed. The black edges have screen issues. I went through several at the store and they all looked yellow and low quality.
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I now have an M9 because of the very problem you listed. The black edges have screen issues. I went through several at the store and they all looked yellow and low quality.
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I've got a black edge and my screen is flawless. I actually received 2 edges and both are great, one just had scratches on it.
All of the Edges I looked at had scratches and dull screens. They also had the auto brightness issue. Great phone besides those things.
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My biggest gripe with the edge is the uneven tone across the screen. Going into to best buy in two weeks to swap for a unit from a new batch. At least I hope. One would think that they'd have a new batch in two weeks b
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Get it replaced !
Well I'm sending the black one back due to the light scratches and the gold platinum is my replacement which I'm keeping it has no scratches screen is better and overall the phone feel snappier I don't know if it's possible or just me and this gold platinum looks really good compared to that black blueish color!
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Same here got black and my wife have gold one, when gold is on half brightness is the same as i got on full so will go to three for replacement. When restarting the phone screen on three logo is going to full brightness for one second than back to dim after.
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Same here got black and my wife have gold one, when gold is on half brightness is the same as i got on full so will go to three for replacement. When restarting the phone screen on three logo is going to full brightness for one second than back to dim after.
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Make sure you have auto brightness of on both when your comparing because it could be the phone's ambient light sensors reacting different to the lighting conditions.
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outsiderdj said:
Same here got black and my wife have gold one, when gold is on half brightness is the same as i got on full so will go to three for replacement. When restarting the phone screen on three logo is going to full brightness for one second than back to dim after.
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So same with you the gold seems to have better screen
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Hopefully this is just because the black units seem to have been produced the earliest. Fingers crossed newer batches will fix everything.
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The thing with the different screen qualitys is also one thing, which i have noticed.
In berlin we have a samsung store, where we were able to get our hands on the s6 and s6edge some weeks before release.
On all those models which i tested and compared there, the s6 edge had a "bluer" white than the s6, which had a more "yellower" white. In direct comparison the screen and especially white backgrounds seemed much much better on the s6 edge. Yes it was a bit blueish, but the s6's white was more a sand tone, not white at all.
But on those devices in normal electro stores right now, its the opposite. There are defenitely the final models represented and on those, the s6 now had a better white.
Strange strange.
One more thing which i realised is, that under sunlight, the screens white seemed much better than under low light situations. Yes it is the adaptive display setting, but it switches from a very good white (slightly blueish) to a yellowish white in darkness or worse light situations. Maybe it has to do with the thing that a warmer white is better for the eyes in dark situations, but it is still anoying because i defenitely prefer the blueish white..
What is clear is from even the most thorough reviews of screens, is that the S6 edge can't be set to maximum brightness on manual settings alone. On both auto and manual settings, maximum brightness can only be achieved when in high light levels. This can be easily demonstrated by shining a phone torch on the ambient light sensor. Even when set to highest brightness, with auto brightness set to off, if you place a torch light over the ambient light sensor, the screen brightness increases and becomes very bright.
It has been suggested that the Gold Plantinum units have brighter screens than the black sapphire units. I wonder if the intense reflection of light off the highly reflective platinum versions, results in an increased light level around the ambient sensor, which results in the higher screen brightness of the Platinum version, in what appears to the human eye to be identical surrounding light levels. Probably a crazy suggestion and of course this can be easily disproved by using a torch light above both phones ambient light sensors!
What is a fact is that turning up to maximum brightness with auto off does not reach the highest brightness levels unless the ambient light sensor is detecting the phone is being exposed to high levels of ambient light. Screens will differ, as they do are often sourced from more than one supplier or factory.
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Remember brightness is one indicator of screen quality but by all means not an indicator of a better screen. Resolution, colour reproduction, refresh rates etc are all other key factors. So just because yours is brighter doesn't necessarily mean better.
It could also be that an ambient light sensor is defective, thus resulting in the phone increasing the brightness of the phone display as a result of incorrect information from the ambient light sensor. The pictures in this review were not taken in extremely bright light, so apit's possible, that the black sapphire phones ambient sensor could be correctly detecting the light levels, resulting in correct adjustment of screen brightness. The Gold platinum phones ambient light sensor, may not be working correctly, resulting in information that results in screen brightness being above those desired for the actual ambient light levels being experienced by the phone.
Whether you agree with it or not, it is a fact, that even with auto disabled, the ambient light sensor still plays a role in determining how bright the screen gets!
The screen was not only brighter but the colors were different shades too so this is not just about brightness.
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Honestly considering returning my edge to best buy and getting the regular s6. That would give me a renewed 2 week return window and then maybe trying the edge again after that two weeks because the screen at the very least should be pleasing to look at and right now I'm just not pleased.
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I have a black or dark bar across the top quarter of the edge screen and when I put a white screen on it's very visable anyone else have this?
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I have a black or dark bar across the top quarter of the edge screen and when I put a white screen on it's very visable anyone else have this?
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I have heard people mention this similar problem but no one posted a picture before.
I have s6 edge gold 64gb and a 32gb gold s6. The edge has very noticeable darker screen, dimmer colours and dirtier whites. Pissed off as the edge has the better cpu, runs 4c cooler and produces better benchmarks... But it's going back. Screen bugging me
Shame as the battery life is incredible
I sent back an Mate 20 Pro because (with LG screen) I had intermittent data disconnection issues. I had no gluegate screen issues, the screen was fine. The replacement device has a BOE screen. In comparison to the LG screen, after a few days here are my observations:
- The screen has a greenish tint (not gluegate) when viewed from the side. View the screen at about 45 degree angle (left, right, top, bottom etc.) and the color changes.
- Brightness: the BOE screen I have seems less bright than the LG one.
- The screen also seems less sharp than the previous LG, I would describe it as a bit "grainy" or "noisy", not the pin sharp display you would expect at this resolution
- Low brightness: when the brightness slider is low (10% brightness or less), the grey text breaks up on a black background when scrolling. Here is how to reproduce the issue.
1. Go to Settings and select the BLACK background mode. All text is white or grey and the background is black.
2. Set the brightness slider to minimum
3. Select a submenu in settings (e.g. Battery) then go to a dark room (with brightness at minimum)
4. Scroll slowly up and down the screen in the Battery (or some other) settings menu
5. On my screen the light (white and grey) text breaks up into green/magenta components. When the scrolling stops the text is white again. It's like the screen can not keep up with the scrolling, can not refresh the pixels fast enough so the white text breaks up into various colours.
Anyone has experienced this issue on either an LG or BOE screen? Any feedback is welcome.
I am not pixel peeking. I noticed this behaviour while adjusting some of my settings on the new phone. I did not see this at the LG screen. Because my old phone has been taken back by the courier I can't do any parallel comparisons.
This screen is a BOE screen, serial number 18B08. on the latest 122 software version. Based on my subjective observation the LG screen was brighter and did not notice these low light issues (however I was not looking for it in all fairness). Update: now on 146 software update.
Any feedback is appreciated.
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Update (9 Dec 2018)
I went to a local store and took some comparison pictures / videos between store units and my BOE screen Mate 20 Pro. See them below. All videos taken at MAXIMUM screen brightness on white background to compare the quality (max brightness and colour shift) of both screens.
Here are links to 2 Youtube sample videos:
https://youtu.be/t_BSsJi0f1o - My unit vs a O2 store demo unit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUPe-z5ArfI - My unit vs a Three store demo unit (verified with LG screen)
Some images also attached.
The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
Wow dude, you don't know what you are talking about...
The green is totally defective and can be seen in many normal conditions!
The fact that it's emphasized by grey screen doesn't mean it cannot be seen.
I now have a BOE screen and cannot be happier, colors look excellent compared with my Galaxy S9+
LG green screen was crap. And I'm not biased towards LG, I have a very nice OLED 4K tv at home.
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The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
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Hello,
Thank you for the elaborate answer.
I don't have a problem with the unevenness of light or bleeding but lower brightness and grainier screen are not OK in my opinion. When I first opened up the first unit with the LG screen, it struck me how better it was than my SONY Xperia XZ Premium's screen, both in terms of perceived sharpness and luminosity. As a first impression.
The BOE screen however, shows much grayer and overall of inferior quality in comparison to the Sony. Might have an inferior screen on this Mate 20 Pro, I don't know, that's why I was asking for feedback.
For this price and being a flagship device having only an "acceptable" quality screen is not acceptable. Having so many posts online and cases of green screens it's a good possibility that there is something ongoing with these screens.
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The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
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Funny, I was sitting in a dark room with the screen set to grey and on the lowest setting and I was thinking, what the **** am I doing??? When would actually be doing this?? Probably never. I think some people are looking so hard for something that they are starting to see things.
I'm not doubting the there probably are some faulty screens out there, I had one right at the start too. But I've had an LG screen for a while now and it kinda looks green round the edges in that unnatural way of grey screen and low light. But I find it 10 time better than the grey washed out screen of the BOE. I had to turn the BOE screen brightness right up if I wanted to read in bed and the auto brightness was unresponsive.
Normal everyday use of the LG screen is 10 time better and the colours are just more vivid. I think I'm going to stick with LG
I found myself on Spotify with a really distracting green uneven smear all over my screen.... That wasn't a unnatural situation.
jhs39 said:
The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
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biggest pile of rubbish ive ever read in the nicest way possible. to dismiss other peoples experiences just because you havent seen it is rubbish. my friend used my phone in the car at night ( i was using it for sat nav, is that normal enough?) they went on the spotify app to change the song then asked me why is the bottom half of my screen green. if thats not an unusual use case then no one can use their phones at night?
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beta199 said:
I sent back an Mate 20 Pro because (with LG screen) I had intermittent data disconnection issues. I had no gluegate screen issues, the screen was fine. The replacement device has a BOE screen. In comparison to the LG screen, after a day here are my observations:
- The screen has a greenish tint (not gluegate) when viewed from the side. View the screen at about 45 degree angle (left, right, top, bottom etc.) and the color changes.
- Brightness: the BOE screen I have seems less bright than the LG one.
- The screen also seems less sharp than the previous LG, I would describe it as a bit "grainy" or "noisy", not the pin sharp display you would expect at this resolution
- Low brightness: when the brightness slider is low (10% brightness or less), the grey text breaks up on a black background when scrolling. Here is how to reproduce the issue.
1. Go to Settings and select the BLACK background mode. All text is white or grey and the background is black.
2. Set the brightness slider to minimum
3. Select a submenu in settings (e.g. Battery) then go to a dark room (with brightness at minimum)
4. Scroll slowly up and down the screen in the Battery (or some other) settings menu
5. On my screen the light (white and grey) text breaks up into green/magenta components. When the scrolling stops the text is white again. It's like the screen can not keep up with the scrolling, can not refresh the pixels fast enough so the white text breaks up into various colours.
Anyone has experienced this issue on either an LG or BOE screen? Any feedback is welcome.
I am not pixel peeking. I noticed this behaviour while adjusting some of my settings on the new phone. I did not see this at the LG screen. Because my old phone has been taken back by the courier I can't do any parallel comparisons.
This screen is a BOE screen, serial number 18B08. on the latest 122 software version. Based on my subjective observation the LG screen was brighter and did not notice these low light issues (however I was not looking for it in all fairness).
Any feedback is appreciated.
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inn regards to this. the BOE screen seems to be less vivid if you had the LG phone before. however i had my S8 on standard or SRGB mode. (maybe it was called basic i cant remember) and to me the colours look fine. i cant say it looks less 'smooth' not sure what that means either and i think you hit the nail on the head. when you start to pixel peep youll see many flaws. even if they arent really there. if you look at the LG display as hard as you have looked at teh BOE, maybe you would have found something else. I know the whole display thing is annoying for the price but i took into account selling my s8 and selling the WAtch GT (which i am using at starting to like) into the price
I think low brightness usage of a screen is a valid scenario which should work properly without green issues. I am occasionally reading ebooks in the dark, at minimum or close to minimum brightness. I had a number of smart phones and they all worked fine with a pretty uniform screen. I am not looking for perfection, but low light performance is a valid usage scenario where smartphone screen have to deliver - especially top tier, expensive flagship models.
I have the LG screen and apart from the greenish tint on the curved sides when viewed in a dark room with grey background (low brightness), I really have no issues during the day when there is normal lighting. I've read several forums with other phone manufactures where this complaint seems to be common, clearly Huawei could have done better QC. For me at least this nuisance isn't enough to return the phone.
Hi The LG is very bad, did you see the anandtech review of the Mate 20 Pro
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13503/the-mate-20-mate-20-pro-review/7
enrique71 said:
I have the LG screen and apart from the greenish tint on the curved sides when viewed in a dark room with grey background (low brightness), I really have no issues during the day when there is normal lighting. I've read several forums with other phone manufactures where this complaint seems to be common, clearly Huawei could have done better QC. For me at least this nuisance isn't enough to return the phone.
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That makes sense. For me the overall brightness and sharpness is important as I am doing a lot of work outside surveying buildings. This is what I am apparently seeing in my BOE screen, the screen seems to be greyer and less bright than the LG one. But again, it might be an issue with my screen only - that's why I am looking for others' feedback.
uso said:
Hi The LG is very bad, did you see the anandtech review of the Mate 20 Pro
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13503/the-mate-20-mate-20-pro-review/7
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Thanks for sharing this review - it's so comprehensive and technical, without being too technical (if that makes sense).
On my 3rd phone with this being first BOE screen.
1st LG screen was utter crap, by the 2nd week at 50% brightness you could see the green around the edges on youtube videos etc... ( I would count that as most peoples use of a phone?)
2nd was much better but was still noticeable while using dark theme and dark backgrounds, which I do a lot. Main issue was I didn't want to wait for it to get worse like the first one.
3rd BOE - Much better screen. It is slightly less vivid but still plenty nice enough for me. Sharpness I have it set to FHD all the time and haven't noticed any issues at all. Only thing I did notice is there is a slight green tint viewed at certain angle, but pretty extreme angle which is unrealistic so doesn't bother me.
I don't think this is an issue that's specific to LG or BOE screens because I had this on my 2nd LG device. I thought it was because I was using YouTube vanced but obviously not. These screens are garbage.
I think OLED screens all have the problem to a certain degree. Just some are worse than others.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8146389
whoops1234 said:
Funny, I was sitting in a dark room with the screen set to grey and on the lowest setting and I was thinking, what the **** am I doing??? When would actually be doing this?? Probably never. I think some people are looking so hard for something that they are starting to see things.
I'm not doubting the there probably are some faulty screens out there, I had one right at the start too. But I've had an LG screen for a while now and it kinda looks green round the edges in that unnatural way of grey screen and low light. But I find it 10 time better than the grey washed out screen of the BOE. I had to turn the BOE screen brightness right up if I wanted to read in bed and the auto brightness was unresponsive.
Normal everyday use of the LG screen is 10 time better and the colours are just more vivid. I think I'm going to stick with LG
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Sorry but you are dead wrong. This does not remain this way. The LG panel shows the green after a few days even on 50% brightness.
The BOE screen is exactly as bright, clear and sharp as the LG and I know this because I had them side by side.
Don't spread nonsense. LG screen TEN TIMES BETTER? Shame on you.
For your information, Huawei admitted to EE on the phone that all the LG panels were in an early batch, and faulty. Good luck getting help when your LG panel goes bad, and it will.
Jonathan-H said:
Sorry but you are dead wrong. This does not remain this way. The LG panel shows the green after a few days even on 50% brightness.
The BOE screen is exactly as bright, clear and sharp as the LG and I know this because I had them side by side.
Don't spread nonsense. LG screen TEN TIMES BETTER? Shame on you.
For your information, Huawei admitted to EE on the phone that all the LG panels were in an early batch, and faulty. Good luck getting help when your LG panel goes bad, and it will.
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No need to take that tone. We're all adults here so please don't act like we're back at school. So shame on you!!
It was just my opinion. I have both of them next to each other and there is a difference, I even posted pictures on another thread showing the difference in colour. I'm also not the only person to notice. Plus I've had my LG screen for 3 weeks now and it hasn't got any worse.
I mean jeez all these people getting het up, when it comes down to it, its just a phone.
I have a BOE screen as a replacement for my (slightly) faulty LG screen.
I've had other LG & Samsung OLED (both P-OLED and AM-OLED) screens on phones as well as many LCD screens.
I can honestly say that the BOE screen I now have is at least as bright as *ANY* other OLED screen I've had and pretty much as bright as the SuperBright LCD on my LG G7 Thinq.
The resolution of the BOE screen is also pretty bloody good; certainly no worse than it was on my LG screen'd original Mate 20 Pro.
I don't see any light bleed; only the "usual" colour shift evident on pretty much any OLED screen when viewed at an angle; and for me this phone hardware-wise is now pretty much perfect.
jhs39 said:
The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
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I'm sorry but you made so many mistakes in your assertion. First the LG Display is by no means superior. The BOE display uses the new Synaptics driver that is light years ahead of the Unkown LG driver. I have meanwhile in my family the possibility to test the LG Display directly with my BOE display. The only thing I mentioned was that the colors were a little more vibrant on the LG. After adjusting some parameters my BOE display looked almost identical to the LG. But without the green tint. And your claim the green tint is not that visible under normal circumstances is totally rubbish. On my first mate 20 pro the green was visible under all circumstances. Not from the start, the issue progressed. I must admit Huawei handled my issue very good. I got from the start a very good BOE panel. And believe me if the green tint was anything normal, Huawei would never have exchanged the devices that easy.
My BOE Screen is great, clear, sharp nice and bright. Except for when the Power Genius app kicks in for Gmail, Chrome and Facebook.