This is it, Marshmallow is final rom for us - Sony Xperia M4 Aqua

As you know Google recently released Android 7.0 update to Nexus devices and Sony released list of what devices will receive update http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/ Only Z and X line will be getting it. Sony abondoned it's M4 and M5 devices that recently turned 1 year old. Our only hope now is Custom Rom devs. What do you think about this move from Sony ?

I think,it's only "first wave" of updates,in future we can see Nougat. But I don't sure,that this is right)))

Gray47Maxx said:
I think,it's only "first wave" of updates,in future we can see Nougat. But I don't sure,that this is right)))
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It's unlikely that it will be in waves. It's sony after all slow ass oem who has close to stock android yet takes more time to update than Samsung, Lg

To be fair, I'm more surprised we got Marshmallow in the first place. Nougat was very, very unlikely.
However, Marshmallow created so many issues on my phone, this is the first time ever where I've had to downgrade to Lollipop.
If Sony did bring Nougat, they'd mess it up somehow. But I regret getting this phone and will probably cross Sony off the list of OEMs to purchase from.

M4 and M5 are midrange devices we can't expect more than Marshmallow..

There is no xperia e5 on the list, which is a 2016 phone, so it is probably just a list that will be updated soon.
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Unless Sony is trying to be the Apple of android and cutting out their midrange phones

i'm pretty sure this is our last rom, and i don't think there will be a new custom rom either since the dev are became quite now (it just my opiniop tho..)

hope we get a method to root our Xperia M4 Aqua on MM 6.0 without unlocking boot loader ...... :fingers-crossed:

IF and it's a big IF - we get 7.0 N it will probably be after they release 8.0 X on other xperia devices just like it happened to 6.0 MM

amirul.35 said:
i'm pretty sure this is our last rom, and i don't think there will be a new custom rom either since the dev are became quite now (it just my opiniop tho..)
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I don't think we will get nougat either, as there are there are reports for Qualcomm not supporting snapdragon 810, so no Vulkan API drivers for the z3. Snapdragon 615 (our phone) was in the 810 lineup, so it probably won't get the drivers either. So PROBABLY no nougat.

it is snapdragon 801 and not 810
DarkerJava said:
I don't think we will get nougat either, as there are there are reports for Qualcomm not supporting snapdragon 810, so no Vulkan API drivers for the z3. Snapdragon 615 (our phone) was in the 810 lineup, so it probably won't get the drivers either. So PROBABLY no nougat.
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Qualcomm and Google won't support Snapdragon 801 and not Snapdragon 810 ( Xperia Z5) ... btw Snapdragon 615 is on a host of phones which probably are going to get Nougat update its only that disgusting Sony wont offer any more updates Samsung and LG, Huawei will still support their Snapdragon 615 ( very good chance)
and visit this http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...t-24-months-os-updates-current-future-phones/
Huawei has promised 24 months of updates for all its devices going forward 2016 onwards Honor 5X with snapdragon 615 will be getting nougat because unlike Sony Huawei cares about their users

(if) We will get nougat only when android o beta come out, I've been using sony mid range a long time and this pattern was also applied to our phone, at that time our 18 month of update already dead I think

It's not a flagship phone, this isn't Google and it came with 5.0. It was foreseeable that it would die with 6.0.1 (officially anyway, but seeing that there's hardly any development, it's really unlikely we will get a nougat rom)

M4 aqua is a mid-range device and as such only gets update support for 18mths it was never gonna get N in the first place z3 and m5 also don't use dm-verity security which all new Xperia devices have. People are slating Sony for dropping the z3 that's had two years of update support and two big os updates when it's actually qualcomm dropping support not Sony
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arnob2014 said:
Qualcomm and Google won't support Snapdragon 801 and not Snapdragon 810 ( Xperia Z5) ... btw Snapdragon 615 is on a host of phones which probably are going to get Nougat update its only that disgusting Sony wont offer any more updates Samsung and LG, Huawei will still support their Snapdragon 615 ( very good chance)
and visit this http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...t-24-months-os-updates-current-future-phones/
Huawei has promised 24 months of updates for all its devices going forward 2016 onwards Honor 5X with snapdragon 615 will be getting nougat because unlike Sony Huawei cares about their users
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Oh right, it was the 800 series ?

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Any updates on 5.1?

I keep scouring the web to see when the Z4 tab will get the update but it is scarily quiet! Anyone have any inside info as to what's happening?
Cheers
I too have been searching on a daily basis. I don't like doing this, but the performance of the Z4 is good, but then its still not miles away from the Z3 compact, and there should be a huge difference looking at the specs.
I feel that the Z4 is not optimised for the 64 bit octa core processor and perhaps we might see a performance jump in Android 5.1.1?
I'm also wondering why the Z4 Tablet has not the update to 5.1 yet.
On the other side there is an Android M developer preview available for nearly every xperia device except for the Z4T?
I am really a bit disappointed - you buy a brand new (and expensive) device and you don't get updates. But the "old" devices get everything...
I'm presuming Sony is having some challenges with the Snapdragon 810 and optimisation of the octal core processor. That's all it can be really.
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Still no update from Sony.
I've got the Samsung Z3 Tablet Compact and the Z4 Tablet, and the Z3TC is flying along with Android 5.1.1, at times outpacing the Z4 for the same task, which makes me want to see the Z4 Android 5.1.1 update sooner than later. Sony are pushing this update out to Z3 and Z2 owners and nothing for the Z4.
Does anyone have any insight into whats going on?
No insight but I just downloaded the AOSP 5.1 binaries from SONY developer world. The AOSP sources are on GitHub.
Next week I try to build the 5.1 ROM.
According to the latest entry in PTCRB, seems that android 5.1.1 is on its way...
https://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=29934
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According to the latest entry in PTCRB, seems that android 5.1.1 is on its way...
https://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=29934
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I'm not familiar with that site. It lists the model number as TM-0061-BV; How do we know that is the Sony Z4 tablet?
How do we know that is the Sony Z4 tablet?
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It is one of the Z3+/Z4 phones.
This is a regulatory site ...
28.0.A... software versions are for the xperias with Qualcom 810 processors from SONY.
It only means there is newer ROM for the phone. The software sans specific drivers for the phone part should be identical to the Z4 Tablets (Wifi or LTE).
So you can see it like this:
Newer ROMs for phone(s) usually means updates for the tablets too.
DHGE said:
It is one of the Z3+/Z4 phones.
This is a regulatory site ...
28.0.A... software versions are for the xperias with Qualcom 810 processors from SONY.
It only means there is newer ROM for the phone. The software sans specific drivers for the phone part should be identical to the Z4 Tablets (Wifi or LTE).
So you can see it like this:
Newer ROMs for phone(s) usually means updates for the tablets too.
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Good to see progress, but then how long does the Firmware rollout start after this stage? If anyone knows.
I actually ran a 5.11 version here (from AOSP sources).
But no touch functionality -> useless.
Should be fixed according to a SONY guy but trying (and reverting) takes 5+ hours including 2 of my personal time.

Will Mi Pad ever update???

I am confused in buying this tablet ...I fear that kitkat will soon get outdated and i will not be able to use some apps... I have read many forums but nobody discussed of the update for pad to lollipop...Will it ever get updated ...and if not will I be able to use apps even after incompatibility with kitkat(if there is any way to get out of the problem)???
there's no way to get any decent rom out of xiaomi as they don't release the source code.
there's a few ported 5.0 roms put there but many things are not working yet and development is very slow (it's been months and there's no updates)
MIUI 7 is just released, but still in kk.
i don't think xiaomi will move to lollipop anytime soon.
save yourself the trouble, go get other tablets.
sad to hear that, i'm planning to buy 1, i want this this tab just because of it's powerful specs, high battery and size.
hope we can have at least lollipop update from Mi
After experiencing the lack of real updates on the Mi Pad, I've given up the purchase of many Mi devices.
For example, the Redmi Note 2 is a great device at a killer price (about $130 here) with near-flagship specs. But it is stuck on 5.0, so of course I'm not getting it because I know it'll be stuck down for a long time simply because MIUI never releases code, and never releases kernel even though they're supposed to.
If the kernel was released by Xiaomi you'd have killer roms on these devices in a single week.
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jeremeel2015 said:
sad to hear that, i'm planning to buy 1, i want this this tab just because of it's powerful specs, high battery and size.
hope we can have at least lollipop update from Mi
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There won't be one. Xiaomi only has 4 developers working on Mi Pad, part time. And the support has been terrible. As a MiPad owner, I'm horribly disappointed. Their support for their other phones are just as awful.
according to miui forum they need beta tester to apply global beta team for miui7 MM base for xiaomi device http://en.miui.com/thread-197475-1-1.html
lets pray sodamn hard mipad will get it too
Other then 4.4.4 updates as in just the apps here and there Mi Pad will NEVER be getting Android 5 nor Android 6. They the MODS that have no idea either since launch been saying "wait and see". If you search you find MIUI said about marshmellow just what would be getting updated and MI PAD is NOT there.
Yes, MIUI 8 for Mi Pad is available now, I think so
Miui 8 is available on the Chinese ROM only.
A general point is that in the fast moving world of mobile telephone sales, to stay profitable, you must come up with new and better models regularly. This means a limited software shelf life for old phones, where 'old' means over 2 years. Of course there won't be support for older models, most owners have bought other handsets by then, anyway. Of course xiaomi should release the source code though.
Well, I cannot say much about MI Pad support as I do not have that one, but pretty much ANY MI devices got MIUI 8 now. Yes, some are running on top of old Android, but it does not matter much for most users, and please tell me which company supports such old devices as Redmi 1s? What is offered with Huawei T1-A21L tablet still commonly offered across Europe by 3? Correct 4.4 with no plans to give any updates. So let us be more objective. Well, I agree, to get sources would be nice. BTW, di we get them for Nvidia own device?
Its time to let the source kod loose...why are they Holding this for them selfs ? If they are smart release the source kod and maybe just maybe we forget about that they didnt support us.... 1 thing is for sure, i will never ever buy a Xiaomi product again! And i hope you guys are with Me on this One, this Company is a joke !
Good news, the Kernel just released. Finally! https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/mocha-kk-oss/kernel
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Its time to let the source kod loose...why are they Holding this for them selfs ? If they are smart release the source kod and maybe just maybe we forget about that they didnt support us.... 1 thing is for sure, i will never ever buy a Xiaomi product again! And i hope you guys are with Me on this One, this Company is a joke !
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Im with you. the support for this tablet has been pathetic. Really regretted buying it. Hopefully now we have source code some good folk will make it usable again
Only custom. Not by xiaomi
it seems that its about nvidia... because mi 3 td also use kk in miui8.mi 2s use lolipop in miui6(5.0.2).also,cm12.1 is better then miui now.and i suggest you to flash cm12.1

About 5.1 update for M4 Aqua

After seeing Xperia C4,Xperia C5 Ultra and now Xperia M5 got android 5.1 update out of the nowhere should we expect it on M4 soon?
Those phones should skip 5.1 and go directly ti 6.0 but Sony changed their minds...
Only M4 left on 5.0 for now...
Keep in mind that c4, c5 and m5 use same mediatek chipset so once 5.1 came for c4 it was matter of time to appear also for c5 and m5. Our M4 aqua uses qualcomm chipset so i do not expect 5.1 for it. It should be easier for sony to get 6.0 working on the qualcomm than on mediatek so i think that we will get directly 6.0 while c4, c5 and m5 will get it later than us and that's why sony released 5.1 for these models to calm down the owners. We will see.
End of february beginning of March for marshmallow on m4 aqua
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End of february beginning of March for marshmallow on m4 aqua
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Where did you get this information from?
Official the S6 and S6 edge will get 6.0 february/march. And for the M4 it says first quarter, so it's more likely end of march or second quarter
Never seen any real date for any Sony Xperia phones and marshmallow, so a month time for M4 is very unlikely. First of they need to roll it on z5 series, then the rest of the z series. And lastly on other Xperia models... I hope we get 6.0 before summer.
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Also, people can get very anxious about UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE, but have you seen what's in these updates? Barely anything, from what I can see. Even the major updates from 5.0 to 6.0. How much of it is visible to the consumer?
Bug fixes (don't care)
developer tools (don't care, not releveant),
driver updates (don't care)
oh and they fixed the sound toggles that they broke in 5.0 that nobody liked. Wow, thanks!
zzzzzzzz
When Android 10.0 comes out call me. Maybe there'll be something new.
In M4's case, we will get a possibility to use SD card as a phone memory, and considering the lack of space this phone has, marshmallow is a big thing...
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mb011 said:
In M4's case, we will get a possibility to use SD card as a phone memory, and considering the lack of space this phone has, marshmallow is a big thing...
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Thats the main point of the #M46.0HYPETRAIN thing. We are all waiting for that!
I believe we will get after April.
Or faster we have stable custom rom(cm 13, AOSP)
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In XperiFirm i see that there is a new firmware released for Denmark, Nordic and Baltic (E2303) 26.1.A3.93. Going by the number looks like the firmware could be 5.1.
has any one got the update, can any one confirm.
It's not 5.1. It is still 5.0, but my phone got 300mb extra free space. They have removed something. Haven't found what it is yet.
My FW is 26.1.A.3.92. Upgraded this morning through Xperia companion.
SharpnShiny said:
Also, people can get very anxious about UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE, but have you seen what's in these updates? Barely anything, from what I can see. Even the major updates from 5.0 to 6.0. How much of it is visible to the consumer?
Bug fixes (don't care)
developer tools (don't care, not releveant),
driver updates (don't care)
oh and they fixed the sound toggles that they broke in 5.0 that nobody liked. Wow, thanks!
zzzzzzzz
When Android 10.0 comes out call me. Maybe there'll be something new.
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crappy post.
* Multi-window support ( I care)
* SD card as expanded internal memory (I care)
MrPilot said:
crappy post.
* Multi-window support ( I care)
* SD card as expanded internal memory (I care)
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I have the north American 16GB version.
- SD card as expanded internal memory (I don't care).
And I'm a consumer. Of course I get to evaluate the $300 products I buy and their support. "crappy post" doesn't make sense.
SharpnShiny said:
I have the north American 16GB version.
- SD card as expanded internal memory (I don't care).
And I'm a consumer. Of course I get to evaluate the $300 products I buy and their support. "crappy post" doesn't make sense.
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If it isn't relevant to you, why comment? There are always bug fixes and security fixes that do matter to a lot of people, whether you include yourself in that group or not is a moot point.
rp-x1 said:
If it isn't relevant to you, why comment? There are always bug fixes and security fixes that do matter to a lot of people, whether you include yourself in that group or not is a moot point.
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Why did I comment? Go back to the first post. The first post talks about ETAs for arrival of the next major Android update. The entire point of my comment, which you've apparently missed, was that I'm not convinced by anything I've read about the update that is a significant improvement from the customer standpoint, so I'm relaxed about the ETA. My point is valid, even if it's different to your's, or just because you don't understand. Moot that. There's nothing more useful for me in this thread so it's my final comment to you.

DayDream ready ?

Qualcomm confirmed that only SD821 will be compatible with Daydream view, but recently the Moto z(which has SD820) got upgraded to 7.0 nougat, and alongside that update, it's now compatible with the Daydream view VR, so.... Is there a chance the G5 will be compatible with Daydream anytime soon ?
ramqashou said:
Qualcomm confirmed that only SD821 will be compatible with Daydream view, but recently the Moto z(which has SD820) got upgraded to 7.0 nougat, and alongside that update, it's now compatible with the Daydream view VR, so.... Is there a chance the G5 will be compatible with Daydream anytime soon ?
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I guess very likely via inofficial ways i.e. xda but officially questionable. The moto z is still not officially regarded as compatible afaik.
lolmensch said:
I guess very likely via inofficial ways i.e. xda but officially questionable. The moto z is still not officially regarded as compatible afaik.
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The moto z is officially compatible after nougat update,
Verizon Moto Z and Z Force reportedly receiving Nougat update http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-moto-z-and-z-force-reportedly-receiving-nougat-update
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The moto z is officially compatible after nougat update
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"Another Redditor who received the update confirms that it enables Daydream support, which would make the Moto Z and Z Force the first devices outside of Google's own Pixels to support the company's new VR platform"
Yeah I've seen that. Not sure whether this is intended as this info is not from an official source like moto themselves but lets hope for the best
So i've installed the 7.0 KDZ and the Daydream app+VR framework from google. I can open the app and browse stuff, but as soon as i want to go into VR mode it crashes.
Is LG G5 compatible with Daydream View on Nougat (7.0). I wouldn't thought so since LG is selling their VR headset,
According to an article about the T-Mobile G5 update, the screen needs to be AMOLED.
avenje said:
According to an article about the T-Mobile G5 update, the screen needs to be AMOLED.
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Source? Never heard of this...
androidpolice.com/2016/11/29/android-7-0-nougat-rolling-lg-g5-t-mobile/
It is also mentioned in the TMobile G5 forum too.
avenje said:
androidpolice.com/2016/11/29/android-7-0-nougat-rolling-lg-g5-t-mobile/
It is also mentioned in the TMobile G5 forum too.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/daydream-vr-ready-phones-specs-727780/
Here they say:
"Google doesn’t specifically demand an OLED display in the CDD, but the need for low latency and persistency probably means that only phones with OLED panels will make the cut. That could increase even further the demand for AMOLED displays, which is already on the rise and expected to boom in 2017."
Which is much more precise, and there are the full requirements, this confirms that if the G5's IPS display doesn't respect those specification it will never support daydream.
But it also says that the only soc supported is Snapdragon 821, beside that the Moto z supports daydream, at this point who knows xD

Honor 9 - Android 8 (Oreo)

Hello when do you get Honor 9 Android 8?
Will there ever be such an update date has there been declared for Europe I am asking.
It is in beta now, so I am assuming after it finishes that.
buchman said:
It is in beta now, so I am assuming after it finishes that.
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In Firmware Finder, there is no beta on Android 8 to get her to see it or later release it?
Unfairand said:
Guys I request everyone not to purchase these honor branded devices, even though they are marketed as flagship killers they won't receive proper updates once the device gets past the 6-9 month period, you can't even expect security updates one has to literally beg them, its better to purchase one plus, Samsung and Sony flagships because they are at least guaranteed to receive security update when ever there is a bug and proper OS upgrades, they ditched their flagship honor 7 from receiving nougat update stating Kirin 935 soc isn't compatible with newer update, similar lines this year they ditched honor 8 which boasts another flagship SOC Kirin 950 , stating the same reason its not compatible with newer Oreo update, so it clearly means that kirin 9xx is a flagship grade chip set series from Huawei which is not supportive for future upgrades? So is it good to buy them even after knowing their compatibility issues with future upgrades? I had invested 29k INR in Nov 2016 during honor 8 launch time, India and purchased this device over one plus 3T trusting their 2 year software update policy and security updates for every 3 months, clearly they cheated me and I regret buying honor 8 using my hard earned money instead of one plus device, so i request everyone to boycott honor devices, but the strange thing is honor mid ranges like 655 equipped devices are confirmed for Oreo, its a clear case of cheating to drive growth of newer flagships by ditching older flagships, Huawei as a brand itself has lot of conspiracies surrounding it, its better if we developer community boycott such brands, Good that US regulatory authorities are imposing ban on huawei, I can see the future of this company going down the drain in the similar way they expanded
I request xda please don't support this brand for monetary gains and spoil your reputation!
You honor 9 won't receive android P , going by the track record of hONOR
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huawei have officially stated that the honor 8 WILL be receiving oreo,
as for the honor 9, it has full support for project treble once it gets oreo (suppose the honor 8 will have that too)
considering oreo beta 2 is taking place at he moment within Europe, i can't expect any more than 1 month until it at least becomes available in the firmwarefinder app
Wow, just wow. Are you on a spam tour? Why do you post this in every honor forum? To bad you're sour about not getting an update. Stop spamming.
How to register to get oreo beta?
For bulgaria no project to beta?
http://prikachi.com/images/209/9247209c.png
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huawei have officially stated that the honor 8 WILL be receiving oreo,
as for the honor 9, it has full support for project treble once it gets oreo (suppose the honor 8 will have that too)
considering oreo beta 2 is taking place at he moment within Europe, i can't expect any more than 1 month until it at least becomes available in the firmwarefinder app
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Have you read this ? Honor fails to keep its promise, says Honor 8 will not receive Android 8.0 Oreo from phonearena.
Leonidas.M said:
Have you read this ? Honor fails to keep its promise, says Honor 8 will not receive Android 8.0 Oreo from phonearena.
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Ok, i believe i was mistaken on that one, i was pretty sure i'd read that oreo beta was taking place on both the honor 9 and 8, BUT iv'e just checked and it turns out that the honor 8 isn't officially getting oreo.
Either way, as iv'e already stated, once official oreo for the honor 9 is out, and devs get hold of the source, since its a fully supported treble build, i can only assume the custom ROMs should start to appear.
The SOC in the honor 8 is not too different from the kirin 960 (going by the actual ARM cores used in it 4xA53 in both, though the 950 has 4xA72 rather than A73 in the 960), so i can't see there being too much difficulty in porting the source code for the 960 to the 950 (i'm not proficient in this topic, so please correct me if i'm wrong, I stick to application programming, not OS core stuff)
Either way, I HOPE with project treble porting to different CPUs should be easier than it is now (requiring source code from manufacturer etc...) and hopefully we see some more custom ROMs.
Just waiting for lineage 15...
Manual in finish for oreo on honor 9:
http://download-c1.huawei.com/download/downloadCenter?downloadId=98213
ambitiousButRubbish said:
Ok, i believe i was mistaken on that one, i was pretty sure i'd read that oreo beta was taking place on both the honor 9 and 8, BUT iv'e just checked and it turns out that the honor 8 isn't officially getting oreo.
Either way, as iv'e already stated, once official oreo for the honor 9 is out, and devs get hold of the source, since its a fully supported treble build, i can only assume the custom ROMs should start to appear.
The SOC in the honor 8 is not too different from the kirin 960 (going by the actual ARM cores used in it 4xA53 in both, though the 950 has 4xA72 rather than A73 in the 960), so i can't see there being too much difficulty in porting the source code for the 960 to the 950 (i'm not proficient in this topic, so please correct me if i'm wrong, I stick to application programming, not OS core stuff)
Either way, I HOPE with project treble porting to different CPUs should be easier than it is now (requiring source code from manufacturer etc...) and hopefully we see some more custom ROMs.
Just waiting for lineage 15...
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Well,i just read somewhere and it turned out that Huawei finally decided to keep his promise on honor 8.Is that true?If so we can be more optimistic about our honor 9's Android P:laugh:
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hujialun2002 said:
Well,i just read somewhere and it turned out that Huawei finally decided to keep his promise on honor 8.Is that true?If so we can be more optimistic about our honor 9's Android P:laugh:
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Probably the same thing I saw, plus openkirin released an aosp Oreo build for the honor 8

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