What I mean is that, now I have rooted, will I always have to update to newer versions via this forum or will it update via SE Update service as it would have done before I rooted?
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Yea 100% sure you will be able to get all updates . rooting doesnt prevent you from getting updates . when your phone will get updates you will just lose the root since new update is being installed and old one is gone.So go ahead and root it
I rooted my phone a few months back, purely for backing up purposes etc so I still have the stock firmware etc. I just checked for updates and it is saying there is a firmware update available. It downloads and goes through the install process but doesn't actually change anything, when I check for updates it informs me again that the update is there.
Is this because I have rooted my phone or is there another issue? Should I avoid installing updates when my phone is rooted? I'm not really fussed about CFW at the moment, I just like the root to have that little bit more access.
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If you install an OTA update, you will loose root.
You can check if its root or the update might not been downloaded correctly by using Kies with the USB cable.
AzureusPT said:
If you install an OTA update, you will loose root.
You can check if its root or the update might not been downloaded correctly by using Kies with the USB cable.
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Thanks,
I don't mind losing the root so much, as I guess I can just re-root it? What I'm finding strange is that the update just plain didn't do anything lol. Kernel version is the same, gingerbread version is the same and firmware version is the same.
Ok, so here is the deal, I understand that somewhere in the hay stack of this forum is instructions on how I am going to make this happen but I have ADD and can't keep focus lurking the forum for answers so here it is. Looks like the ICS update is almost ready to roll out for razr so...........
I have a Droid Razr
Rooted
System Version 6.12.173.XT912
Android Version 2.3.6
Kernel Version 2.6.35.7-g61e3522
I can install System version 6.12.181 but I'm not going to because the last time I did a system update I lost root on my phone and was a ***** to get it back to root. But the notification to update my phone every 12 hrs is getting annoying.
So when ICS rolls out what are my options to get the update installed?
Do I need to unroot my phone. If so how do I do this?
Do I need to update the system version to 6.12.181 before I update to ICS?
How can I Update to 6.12.181 safely?
Will there be a version of the ICS update that I can install while still rooted?
Thank you to anyone that take the time to help out with my questions ahead of time. I feel I would rather be prepared then to come up with a problem later. Also I apologize if this has already been addressed.
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Ok, so here is the deal, I understand that somewhere in the hay stack of this forum is instructions on how I am going to make this happen but I have ADD and can't keep focus lurking the forum for answers so here it is. Looks like the ICS update is almost ready to roll out for razr so...........
I have a Droid Razr
Rooted
System Version 6.12.173.XT912
Android Version 2.3.6
Kernel Version 2.6.35.7-g61e3522
I can install System version 6.12.181 but I'm not going to because the last time I did a system update I lost root on my phone and was a ***** to get it back to root. But the notification to update my phone every 12 hrs is getting annoying.
So when ICS rolls out what are my options to get the update installed?
Do I need to unroot my phone. If so how do I do this?
Do I need to update the system version to 6.12.181 before I update to ICS?
How can I Update to 6.12.181 safely?
Will there be a version of the ICS update that I can install while still rooted?
Thank you to anyone that take the time to help out with my questions ahead of time. I feel I would rather be prepared then to come up with a problem later. Also I apologize if this has already been addressed.
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Voodoo rootkeeper will keep your root from .173 to .181 no problem. Not sure what you're asking for in the first question, you options will be to update or not. Using voodoo rootkeeper you SHOULD be able to unroot (with backup), update to ICS, then re-root however it's unknown if this method will work 100% until ICS comes out.
You shouldn't have to update to .181 to get ICS because ICS will completely wipe whatever is in the system folders (shouldn't matter what version you're on), however you might not see ICS OTA update until you update to .181. Again, won't know until it happens
Here are a few words of wisdom:
1) When rooting, always install the latest Motorola USB drivers, available here : http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-...tware_and_Drivers/USB-and-PC-Charging-Drivers
2) Before applying OTA, download a free program called OTA Rootkeeper, follow the procedure, backup your root, then do a "temp unroot" and then restore root.
2) After restoring root on a newly updated OS, always install the superuser program and rerun the su binary update. Even if it is up to date, reapply the update to make sure it works properly. Afterwards, reinstall busybox.
3) All OTAs are incremental updates (this reduces their size). You need to update to every OTA before applying the next OTA. The only way to bypass an OTA would be to fastboot the device to a newer version, but you would lose all of your information.
4) We're here for you! If you have any troubles, just come back.
Here's my opinion.
When the OTA is released, fb to stock 181 then download the OTA.
Rooting with the utilities available today takes about 5 minutes and punching about 4 keys on your computer.
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just wanted to share the original recovery image that came with the phone for anyone that is trying to get the update but dont want to have to restore their phone with kdz/tot file. just push this image to your device via adb. if you have supersu as your root, in the options of supersu you can do a clean uninstall and completely get rid of root with it. then take the OTA update so you dont have any problems with the update. or if you want to keep root you dont have to uninstall it. it seems after the 4.4.2 update, root is still there. enjoy.
d800 stock recovery
freebee269 said:
just wanted to share the original recovery image that came with the phone for anyone that is trying to get the update but dont want to have to restore their phone with kdz/tot file. just push this image to your device via adb. if you have supersu as your root, in the options of supersu you can do a clean uninstall and completely get rid of root with it. then take the OTA update so you dont have any problems with the update. or if you want to keep root you dont have to uninstall it. it seems after the 4.4.2 update, root is still there. enjoy.
d800 stock recovery
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I'm assuming we would push this using ADB? Is there a quick guide for that? I haven't manually installed a recovery in forever.
Are you sure your root was still working after the update? On every other device I have updated to Kitkat, the Superuser app was still there, but you couldn't update the binaries. Something changed with 4.4 that makes the old root method not work. Apparently, Superuser has to be flashed every single time you update from 4.4 on. At lest, that's what I read when I was updating my Nexus and Moto X.
I'm still on a rooted 4.1.2 and have the second OTA update to 4.3 (.109) in my notifications. Rather than go through the whole flashing process, I wondered if anyone had successfully used the Survival mode in SuperSU to retain root from this point to .109?
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I'm still on a rooted 4.1.2 and have the second OTA update to 4.3 (.109) in my notifications. Rather than go through the whole flashing process, I wondered if anyone had successfully used the Survival mode in SuperSU to retain root from this point to .109?
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you can try ot yourself,.but i reckon it will give you error while applying update.
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you can try ot yourself,.but i reckon it will give you error while applying update.
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Yup, I'd read similar. I was more concerned that it would update but I'd lose root, so have to then do the full process.
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Yup, I'd read similar. I was more concerned that it would update but I'd lose root, so have to then do the full process.
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I have a rooted 422 with su pro, The update process aborts mid way and the OS is left untouched, leaving all as it was. I am just too lazy to do the flashtool thing and all, so I left it alone.
I was able to go from 412 to 422 with the OTA and keep root.
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I have a rooted 422 with su pro, The update process aborts mid way and the OS is left untouched, leaving all as it was. I am just too lazy to do the flashtool thing and all, so I left it alone.
I was able to go from 412 to 422 with the OTA and keep root.
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I know, so lazy, if I wait long enough 4.4 will come around and that might keep root!
Nobody's read a successful account of this working then? I may as well just try it and see...
Possibly
If you have bought Supersu pro then you could try survival mode, provided that your phone is only root and doesn't have a custom recovery installed.
I personally haven't tried it on my tablet but on other phones like G2, OTA update retains root.
If you have CWM or TWRP installed then it won't let you update.
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If you have bought Supersu pro then you could try survival mode, provided that your phone is only root and doesn't have a custom recovery installed. I personally haven't tried it on my tablet but on other phones like G2, OTA update retains root. If you have CWM or TWRP installed then it won't let you update.
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Judging by all the posts I have read here so far, attempting to update to 4.3 via OTA will fail if your tablet's current firmware has been modified to have root access. Having SuperSU Pro installed with Install SuperSU into /system and/or Survival mode enabled does not help. I have attempted an OTA update with 10.4.B.0.577 and 10.4.1.B.0.109, and the update failed in both attempts. It's okay with me though. After reading about 4.3's bugs and seeing its UI, I don't really want to update to 4.3 anymore.
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Judging by all the posts I have read here so far, attempting to update to 4.3 via OTA will fail if your tablet's current firmware has been modified to have root access. Having SuperSU Pro installed with Install SuperSU into /system and/or Survival mode enabled does not help. I have attempted an OTA update with 10.4.B.0.577 and 10.4.1.B.0.109, and the update failed in both attempts. It's okay with me though. After reading about 4.3's bugs and seeing its UI, I don't really want to update to 4.3 anymore.
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you're right, but besides bugs introduced as every firmware does, some very positive tweaks were done "under the bonnet" like TRIM enabled to make less wearing of flash modules, and some performance tweaks noticeable not only in launcher, but mostly in games too.
So if you have root and recovery installed you can backup your data and install .109 prerooted firmware to evaluate it yourself.
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you're right, but besides bugs introduced as every firmware does, some very positive tweaks were done "under the bonnet" like TRIM enabled to make less wearing of flash modules, and some performance tweaks noticeable not only in launcher, but mostly in games too.
So if you have root and recovery installed you can backup your data and install .109 prerooted firmware to evaluate it yourself.
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I would also recommend to flash a pre-rooted 4.3 from scratch for performance and less issues, but if you have a lot of apps installed and everything set up the way you want it can be a pain in the a$#.
Also the OP doesn't want to flash. But if he can it means that the OTA won't install because he has a custom recovery.
I don't see why Supersu pro with survival mode won't work for an OTA to keep root. This is provided that a you do not have a custom recovery installed. It's kind of the purpose for survival mode and if you do a search it works with most other updates with other devices (even for 4.4.2)
It may be possible that other mods may affect the OTA especially ones which were flashed or possibly xposed.
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I don't see why Supersu pro with survival mode won't work for an OTA to keep root. This is provided that a you do not have a custom recovery installed. It's kind of the purpose for survival mode and if you do a search it works with most other updates with other devices (even for 4.4.2) It may be possible that other mods may affect the OTA especially ones which were flashed or possibly xposed.
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I do not have (nor do I want) a custom recovery or custom ROM installed on my XTZ. I only have root access, which I achieved by using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit when I first received my XTZ back in May 2013. Since then, thanks to SuperSU Pro, I have updated my XTZ's firmware via OTA twice without losing root access. It is only with the last two XTZ firmware releases, 10.4.B.0.577 and 10.4.1.B.0.109, that the OTA updates fail. I suspect Sony's latest firmware releases include detection of root access, etc., which causes the update's failure to install.
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I do not have (nor do I want) a custom recovery or custom ROM installed on my XTZ. I only have root access, which I achieved by using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit when I first received my XTZ back in May 2013. Since then, thanks to SuperSU Pro, I have updated my XTZ's firmware via OTA twice without losing root access. It is only with the last two XTZ firmware releases, 10.4.B.0.577 and 10.4.1.B.0.109, that the OTA updates fail. I suspect Sony's latest firmware releases include detection of root access, etc., which causes the update's failure to install.
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Well, I tried it, thinking the worse that could happen is that it would abandon the install, but unfortunately it went right through and upgraded to 4.3 and I lost root
I'd put it into OTA survival mode but not into system/apps. I had no xposed or recovery anything, just root.
So there we go. Thanks for the discussion guys, hope this is useful to someone else.
How do I root it in 4.3? Any ideas?
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703774
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