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Recently, you may have heard about Apple's iPhone 5 Purple Haze (iPurple). Well, when a customer asked apple for help on the matter, this is the Actual Response received by the customer:
Dear Matt,
Our engineering team just gave me this information and we recommend that you angle the camera away from the bright light source when taking pictures. The purple flare in the image provided is considered normal behavior for iPhone 5′s camera. If you wish to reach me regarding this case number *********, please contact me at 1-877-***-**** ext. *******. I currently work Thursday-Monday: 7:00am – 3:30pm Mountain Time. If you reach my voicemail, please leave your name, phone number, case number and the best time to reach you. Email is ***********@apple.com.
Sincerely,
Debby
AppleCare Support
That's a TRUE Story!
But, it does not end there...
Last night, I had a nightmare, and here was my personal experience with using the iPhone 5 to snap a photo of me and my new dog to send to my family.
So, I'm at the park with my new dog and I decide to take a photo and share it with my family. He’s pretty hyper, so it takes a while to get the shot. My digital Image Stabilization just won’t quite keep him from looking like a blurry fur ball (iBlurry). But, with the help of a dead squirrel, he finally holds still long enough for a picture. We pose, and I take the shot. But there's a strange Purple haze in the corner of the shot. I remember the conversation Matt had with Apple, so I decide to take the photo indoors and not near any light source. I go to the public restroom. After getting my dog out of the toilet bowl, I dry him off using the environmentally friendly blow dryer. Now, my dog looks like he's a flashback from the 60's with his afro, but I decide to move on. I take the shot and Wow, it looks GREAT! Well, after I crop out the urinals.
I suddenly remember that I’m at the park that normally has 3 bars of service, but I’m holding the phone in my hand, so I am now down to no bars (AntennaGate). I decide that MMS will not work, so I must print out the photo and send it by mail. I figure I’ll go to Wal-Mart and use their photo printers and get about 10 copies for each of the recipients.
I open my handy Maps App and ask it for directions to Wal-Mart. We jump into the car and drive there. When I arrive at the Lake (MapGate), I yell to the guy in the boat and ask if he knows where the closest Wal-Mart is. He doesn’t, so following Apple CEO Tim Cook’s suggestion; I ask if the guy in the boat has a Lumia 920 so he can get me directions using Nokia Maps. He does, and I drive to Wal-Mart to print my photos.
I attempt to connect my iPhone to the printer to print out the photos. I then ask the Wal-Mart associate if she knows where I can buy an adapter for my phone so I can connect it to the printer. I go back to the associate and ask if they accept Layaway for the $40 adapter (iRipOff).
Since I really want to send a picture today, I drive back to the lake. By now, it’s dark, so I ask the guy in the boat if he’ll take a night shot with his Purview Camera. My dog has fallen asleep by now, so I lay next to him on the shore and the Boat Guy takes the shot. It comes out GREAT! He sends the photo to all my family using MMS and I cannot be happier.
The next day, I get calls from all of my family about how great the photo was, how calm my dog is with his hair done just right, and how amazing the lighting was that late at night. I thank them and tell them I could not have done it without my Amazing iPhone 5 and they should all buy one (iSheep). Now, my whole family owns iPhone 5’s (iLaLaLand).
For some reason, my Visual Voicemail is blowing UP about issues they are having with their new iPhones. I’ve even gotten threats from my mom.
Hmm, they must be holding it wrong…
Seriously, Apple makes a fine product for the most part, but when they are so (iArrogant), it does warrant some humor. :angel:
Dangit! I just got another (iScratch)!
This really IS "The Biggest Thing to Happen to iPhone Since iPhone". Please see Attached Image. Maybe they SHOULD have used a DSLR for their Adverts.
I cannot WAIT to get my hands on my new Lumia 920! :laugh:
Nice Story
Really Nice Story Super Sport, the other day I was speaking with an iphone fan friend, and telling him about the more than HD display from the Lumia 920, an he said to me, the Iphone has HD display since Iphone 4, and he showed me inside the camera app, and option that said HDR recording, haha, how can you argue with that, it is just not worth it.
Hope the Lumia 920 wont be as hard to unlock as the 900 is.
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Really Nice Story Super Sport, the other day I was speaking with an iphone fan friend, and telling him about the more than HD display from the Lumia 920, an he said to me, the Iphone has HD display since Iphone 4, and he showed me inside the camera app, and option that said HDR recording, haha, how can you argue with that, it is just not worth it.
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What's even more "Amazing" is that they also invented the Panorama Camera Setting that takes an 'AMAZING' 28 Megapixal photo. When they announced that, the crowd went nuts. WOW, 28MP photos from the new iPhone 5! Well, using that type of math, Windows phones have been doing that for YEARS, and in the 100's of Megapixals using PhotoSynth, and not just 8 frames wide, but in ALL directions, 360 degrees around, AND UP/DOWN. But Apple is very good at their announcements, making sure everyone thinks it's New technology, and "Amazing!".
As a matter of fact, the iPhone has been using Photosynth for over a year now, and it KILLS their NEW Panorama Mode.
I noticed on some of my pics a blur on the left side and most others do not. When the background is farther away it seems blury compared with the 900 photos which don't do that. I will post a sample of a pic of my motorcycle later, but I was wondering if anyone else noticed that.
Due to the smaller aperture size you get a reduced depth of field. Therefore if you focus on something farther away things that are nearer will turn out blurry at some point. Similarily if you focus on something near you the background will blur. That effect is well known in photography: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field
Most phone camera lenses have a very large depth of field due to their small size. I guess that is the reason for the effect you're having. In regular cameras or at least SLRs you can adjust the aperture to change this but with smartphones it's constant.
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Due to the smaller aperture size you get a reduced depth of field. Therefore if you focus on something farther away things that are nearer will turn out blurry at some point. Similarily if you focus on something near you the background will blur. That effect is well known in photography: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field
Most phone camera lenses have a very large depth of field due to their small size. I guess that is the reason for the effect you're having. In regular cameras or at least SLRs you can adjust the aperture to change this but with smartphones it's constant.
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Sounds reasonable, but it does not explain the reason the left side is worse than the right... here are some samples of what I mean.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0kh2recr74d1o0a/WP_20121205_002.jpg From the front tire to the tree on the far left, and look at the distance on the right... fairly ok.
Again
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yikkpiymypxsm2t/WP_20121130_012.jpg Look at the focus on the right compared to the left at the same distance... you can also see by the left end of the bike it is out of focus. I have plenty of indoor shots that are perfect, some out door. However, it seems the outdoor shots are having the most trouble. Right side looks ok.. left side not so good.
Low light
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5d7jksw40ylg024/WP_20121125_016.jpg
Different story
That looks like either gunk on your lens, or an actual hardware problem (either with the image stabilization system or the AF lense)
That does not look like normal DOF focus.
schettj said:
That looks like either gunk on your lens, or an actual hardware problem (either with the image stabilization system or the AF lense)
That does not look like normal DOF focus.
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Cleaned the heck out of the lens, no change. Bought the phone on Craigslist so calling Nokia... will see where that gets me.
Its the lens .. the N8 had a similar issue. All in all the only Carl Zeiss lens on a phone that deservers the name and it somewhat performs accordingly is the one on the 808.
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Its the lens .. the N8 had a similar issue. All in all the only Carl Zeiss lens on a phone that deservers the name and it somewhat performs accordingly is the one on the 808.
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My N8 had the out of focus problem on the right of every picture. My 920 doesn't have the problem so it's worth getting your checked by Nokia.
Bad lens or assembly problem.
WARNING!!!!!
Called Nokia support on this issue and eventually they had me do a hard reset. This had the gears on a spinfest! After an hour I reset the phone and all that would come up is the Nokia logo. Apparently others have called on the battery issue and had the same problem. If you aren't ready to up and send the phone back to Nokia... say it's the weekend and you called on a minor issue.... Never fear, I fixed mine on my own.... using the Nokia care suite. Treat it as you are refurbishing a non booting phone. It had me up and running. With the blurry lens unfortunately. http://www.mediafire.com/?xos6ckvsas5xkdi#!
I wanted to update this thread
No receipt, who knows where it came from, paid for at a used phone price, Went down to AT&T to get a SIM for a Radar I bought off Craigslist as a backup unit... They covered the phone with a lens issue, they did not have one to swap out in the store so they overnighted me a replacement. Much better photos all the way around! I was pleasantly surprised.
basically sometime is the lens blurry.. need to get nokia care to clean the lens and it should be ok
Thai Damen said:
basically sometime is the lens blurry.. need to get nokia care to clean the lens and it should be ok
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Eventhough I bought the phone on Craigslist used, AT&T took care of it right away. The photos all the way around seem to be coming out better. Maybe there was dirt back there or the lens was messed up, I don't know. All is perfect now, some of the photos are jaw dropping what a mobile phone can produce.
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Eventhough I bought the phone on Craigslist used, AT&T took care of it right away. The photos all the way around seem to be coming out better. Maybe there was dirt back there or the lens was messed up, I don't know. All is perfect now, some of the photos are jaw dropping what a mobile phone can produce.
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how did at&t take care of it?
chikoo said:
how did at&t take care of it?
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I guess I wasn't clear on that... you get in a rush sometimes.. I wanted to keep people updated on that becuase what happened with support and how I was able to bring the phone back to life.
I strongly urge anyone who buys a Nokia Phone to have the care suite... just in case.
Here is what happened at the At&t store: I called Nokia support.. went through the reset game and filled out the RMA form. I talked with At&t briefly about my situation. I bought a Radar to use temporarly, the plan was to unlock it and sell it when I get a new one. Unfortunately it uses and older SIM so I was told by AT&T phone support how they would deal with that. When I went to the store I told the front counter I needed a replacement SIM. The salesperson asked what was wrong with the phone and I told him about the focus issue. I told him I bought the phone elsewhere. I was then told as long as it is a branded AT&T and under warranty they will take care of it. He sent me back to the support area. They appoligized they did not have any replacement phones on hand, it can take a couple months. The support person overnighted me a replacement phone. The next day I had what looks like a brand new phone. For $380 I ended up with a new lumia 920... not bad
Nice makes sense as if its an AT&T branded 920 they all have a one year warranty and (i believe) it should be regardless of owner and based on hardware
I'm on the same boat. I bought my Lumia 920 locally since the only carrier that sells the phone here in Canada is Rogers. Now, I am having overheating issues and would like to get a replacement. Hopefully Nokia will let me get another one even though I have no receipt. I'll call them tomorrow to see if it's possible.
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I'm on the same boat. I bought my Lumia 920 locally since the only carrier that sells the phone here in Canada is Rogers. Now, I am having overheating issues and would like to get a replacement. Hopefully Nokia will let me get another one even though I have no receipt. I'll call them tomorrow to see if it's possible.
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Just in case you are still unaware, I am sure the warranty is the same in Canada... it does not matter.. the form for RMA asks for your IMEI number. Name and address, nothing else. No proof of purchase. First though, I would take to Rogers. You never know, I got a way better deal at AT&T over Nokia.
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Just in case you are still unaware, I am sure the warranty is the same in Canada... it does not matter.. the form for RMA asks for your IMEI number. Name and address, nothing else. No proof of purchase. First though, I would take to Rogers. You never know, I got a way better deal at AT&T over Nokia.
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Thanks for the info awagner, I'll definitely go and talk to my provider!
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I guess I wasn't clear on that... you get in a rush sometimes.. I wanted to keep people updated on that becuase what happened with support and how I was able to bring the phone back to life.
I strongly urge anyone who buys a Nokia Phone to have the care suite... just in case.
Here is what happened at the At&t store: I called Nokia support.. went through the reset game and filled out the RMA form. I talked with At&t briefly about my situation. I bought a Radar to use temporarly, the plan was to unlock it and sell it when I get a new one. Unfortunately it uses and older SIM so I was told by AT&T phone support how they would deal with that. When I went to the store I told the front counter I needed a replacement SIM. The salesperson asked what was wrong with the phone and I told him about the focus issue. I told him I bought the phone elsewhere. I was then told as long as it is a branded AT&T and under warranty they will take care of it. He sent me back to the support area. They appoligized they did not have any replacement phones on hand, it can take a couple months. The support person overnighted me a replacement phone. The next day I had what looks like a brand new phone. For $380 I ended up with a new lumia 920... not bad
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Have you read about Nokia locking down access sometime in Mid January to its ROMs and firmwares that are available on their site. We may need to figure out a different way to get past this problem.
I have been on the fence for a while. I've watched literally every video I can find and read every review. I'd like to know how you feel about your Ultras in day-to-day use. Any regrets, etc. If you wouldn't mind taking the time to answer some or all of the following questions:
For reference, I have had a lot of different smartphones over the last few years and I currently own a Lumia 1520 and Note 3, so I'm fairly versed in the "big phone" category, though this is the biggest.
How is the size working for you? Issues with pocketability, etc? I know it's not a one-handed phone by any means, but do you wish for something smaller at times?
Does the pre-installed screen protector bother you at all? How is the screen overall, in your estimation?
Do you regret not having a better camera when you need to take photos, especially in the dark?
Do you feel that having a such a large screen to consume media justifies lugging around a phone this big for everyday use?
If you could change just one thing about the device, what would it be?
Lastly, does the phone have burst mode? I haven't been able to confirm this anywhere. I know about time shift, but I'm talking about the hold for burst setting. If so, how fast is it?
Thanks for any feedback, guys. I'm really intrigued by this phone and I'd just like to know how some real owners feel about it.
greyhulk said:
I have been on the fence for a while. I've watched literally every video I can find and read every review. I'd like to know how you feel about your Ultras in day-to-day use. Any regrets, etc. If you wouldn't mind taking the time to answer some or all of the following questions:
For reference, I have had a lot of different smartphones over the last few years and I currently own a Lumia 1520 and Note 3, so I'm fairly versed in the "big phone" category, though this is the biggest.
How is the size working for you? Issues with pocketability, etc? I know it's not a one-handed phone by any means, but do you wish for something smaller at times?
Does the pre-installed screen protector bother you at all? How is the screen overall, in your estimation?
Do you regret not having a better camera when you need to take photos, especially in the dark?
Do you feel that having a such a large screen to consume media justifies lugging around a phone this big for everyday use?
If you could change just one thing about the device, what would it be?
Lastly, does the phone have burst mode? I haven't been able to confirm this anywhere. I know about time shift, but I'm talking about the hold for burst setting. If so, how fast is it?
Thanks for any feedback, guys. I'm really intrigued by this phone and I'd just like to know how some real owners feel about it.
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i'd like to add in, how well does the device work laying on my side on the bed? i always watch movies on the bed on my side holding the phone with 1 hand (no jacking off lol) , is that possible?
greyhulk said:
I have been on the fence for a while. I've watched literally every video I can find and read every review. I'd like to know how you feel about your Ultras in day-to-day use. Any regrets, etc. If you wouldn't mind taking the time to answer some or all of the following questions:
For reference, I have had a lot of different smartphones over the last few years and I currently own a Lumia 1520 and Note 3, so I'm fairly versed in the "big phone" category, though this is the biggest.
How is the size working for you? Issues with pocketability, etc? I know it's not a one-handed phone by any means, but do you wish for something smaller at times?
Does the pre-installed screen protector bother you at all? How is the screen overall, in your estimation?
Do you regret not having a better camera when you need to take photos, especially in the dark?
Do you feel that having a such a large screen to consume media justifies lugging around a phone this big for everyday use?
If you could change just one thing about the device, what would it be?
Lastly, does the phone have burst mode? I haven't been able to confirm this anywhere. I know about time shift, but I'm talking about the hold for burst setting. If so, how fast is it?
Thanks for any feedback, guys. I'm really intrigued by this phone and I'd just like to know how some real owners feel about it.
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1. The size is just fine now. I've had mine since its European release back in September, so i've used it for awhile now. It was a incredible big in the hands the first week i had it, but you know how things seem to "shrink" the more you use it and getting used to it? That'll also happen with the Ultra. It's not that big anymore.
2. It doesn't bother me, but i'd rather not have it on. You can't see it or even notice it though, so it won't bother you from day to day. It scratches easily though, so keep that in mind. You may want to add a second protector on top of the pre-installed one, or remove the pre one and use it naked (without any protection) or add a third party protector. It's up to you.
3. I take about 5 photos a year, so that's a no. I knew the camera wasn't good long before i bought it, so i don't really care. It would've been nice to have a LED though, but again, i don't really care that much. The quality is okey if you keep the ISO low in brightly lit environments though, but don't expect amazing results.
4. Absolutely. It's incredible thin, so it's not hard to take it with you, but you can't exactly put it in your pants pocket and expect it to still be straight after you've been sitting down. You'll learn to take it out of your pants pocket before you sit down. The Ultra is also as wide as a passport, so it fits perfectly in inner blazers pockets.
5. Easy. Camera. I don't use it much (as mentioned), but it's still nice to have a good camera when you want to take a few pics.
6. Yes, it does have burst mode. I believe it can take 10 photos per second. It's very very very quick.
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i'd like to add in, how well does the device work laying on my side on the bed? i always watch movies on the bed on my side holding the phone with 1 hand (no jacking off lol) , is that possible?
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Yeah, that's totally possible. The better thing to do (like i do), is to get the DK30 dock and use it on your nightstand/night table (if you have one). It'll stand on its own and act like a mini Bravia TV It's perfect.
Size is effectively the biggest pro on this phone (duh). You can easily put it into your coat/jacket pocket, and also in a lot of jeans pockets, but like Lord said, you'll have to get used to take it off any pocket (except jacket I guess) and put it on the table when you sit down.
I use it as my principal phone, so the size is no problem at all. Also, I have big hands and can use it one handed lots of times.
I installed a screen protector as soon as it came out of the box, used it with a matte and clear one, clear one is better for the screen. If the film put by Sony bothers you, you can just take it off (with sweat and pain).
Yeah, sometimes I do. But I knew what I was buying, and if I do have to take good photos, I either have my camera or the QX10 with me, so I don't regret it anymore.
Well, that depends on how important that thing is for you. You may get it for media consumption, but you'll end up using it for everything else too, asking yourself how could you go back to anything smaller.
I'd say camera.
As for burst mode, it has one, it's fast, and timeshift is even better.
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1) I got it because of the size. I was on iPhones for the preceding 6 years but got hold of a Nexus 7 at the end of last year. Within a week I flogged them both to get an XZU. It was frustrating having 2 devices so functionally similar - what device shall I check my Evernote account on now? for instance - so I thought this would be the best compromise. If anything it could be a little bit bigger (but I am very tall with presumably corresponding hand size!).
2) The screen protector is pretty good IMO. I'm sure if I shave it off like so many people on this forum have it will look even better though:silly: I never used protectors on the iPhones and this seems to be as responsive to touch as they were.
3) Camera isn't too important to me but I'm old. If I were a young man out raving and partying I think I would need one but I only use it to take pix of my dog these days so not a biggie.
4) ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!! I use this a hell of a lot more like a computer than a phone. With some apps you might need to faff about in Xposed to get the best real estate value but this is basically a tablet.
5) Other than the camera a better magnetic charger. It works well in dock but I've tried 3 cables from eBay and they just don't work.
Caveat to the above: I use it with a SBH 52 and a smartwatch 2. Without these 2 it would be more fiddly to use. I'd be less inclined to take it out every few seconds like I did with my iPhone, but if my notifications are all in ear or on wrist I don't need to so...
I got it because with stock version when I paired it with xb90 earphone then, the sound output it gave was mind blowing. But, with the latest update things seems to have become disappointing
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Hey,
I was consider to get the HTC One M8 but then I came across the Sony Xperia Z2. I was looking at the feature set of both. I went and got a feel of both the devices. My only real concern that came about would be the development aspect of the Z2. I love to tweak around with my phones.
The other issue that hit me is the speakers on the Z2. I havent had a chance to play with the Z2 in the sound department but I did have a chance with the HTC One M8. Does the speakers feel good to listen to?
Any thoughts would be helpful
Well opinion wise on the Z2 , the speakers arent perfect but thats because of the fact the phone is waterproof, everything else is amazing
Development has started slow for Z2 alike most xperias, give it a couple months for it too speed up, we already have official CM11 and TWRP, there should be more to come
And not to mention all mods for 4.4 will most likely work on other xperias
(this does disinclude kernels and roms)
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I have both devices i think that the M8 is better in design and the sound quality is better both speakers and earplugs wise.
The camera on the Z2 is waaaaaaayyy better then the M8 and i personally think that the system ui is better as well i am not a fan of sense it just to heavy.
And custom development always takes a tad longer on sony devices. I've had both devices and i'm still not sure which one is better .....:silly:
i have z2 and love it. Overall i feel m8 is great but z2 has a slight edge in all departments other than sound. Sound is awesome on z2 but m8 is better.
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If you want a single device for all your needs go for Z2.
Want only a smartphone and have a separate professional camera? Go for M8.
Here's a comparison video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKCgqeVdZ3w
Well as far as I see. The sony xperia has a pretty gud feature set. I know the development is a wee bit slow. But considering the fact, I think I just might go for the Z2.
I haven't got a chance to play with M8 but I have had M7 for 5 days before I decided to sell it and married Sony Z2.
Originally, I came from Apple 5s and to be honest the camera on HTC One M7 was horrible. I went out for a persimmon picking trip and I took my brandnew HTC M7 for photo shooting and I was shocked by the photo quality, blueish, dark, blrury and incorrect colour. Even my gf was shocked with my new toy's camera performance. Overall HTC was a good phone, sleek design, study and iron cold feeling, nice and sharp screen and beautiful UI. But after I sold my HTC M7 and bought the Sony Z2 and I must say it is one of the best phone I have even owned. Fast, beautiful scree large screen, simpe UI and super long lasting battery. I am a heavy user and apple 5s could not keep up with me as long as Sony Z2. Anyway, from Apply 5S -> HTC M7 -> Sony Z2, I am really happy to stay with Sony for a long time. And it is my first Sony device I have ever used since I was born ...lol
Hey all, I have the same dillema.
I have just sold my Note 3 and want something smaller and with a capable camera, very good sound quality on speakerphone while on skype and normal calls.
In the last aspect my previous HTC M7 was the best however it's camera was unacceptable, especially in very bright sun light...
To be honest I don't know why I am even considering the M8 because of the camera, but I guess I have the sentiment for the previous one.
Anyway, my biggest concern with Z2 is overheating. I went to Vodafone shop and turned on the Camera app to see how the phone behaves. Within 1-2 minutes it got noticably warm, just because the screen and app was on...
How widespread do you think the overheating problem is? Logically speaking, if something is sealed very well for water not getting in, than it must be not so great with heat dissapation... Unless it is made of aluminum...
I don't want a camera phone having a camera which I cannot use because of overheating...
Also, is it difficult to flash stock firmware over branded one, with sim lock present? Does the phone need to be unlocked?
valdigre said:
Hey all, I have the same dillema.
I have just sold my Note 3 and want something smaller and with a capable camera, very good sound quality on speakerphone while on skype and normal calls.
In the last aspect my previous HTC M7 was the best however it's camera was unacceptable, especially in very bright sun light...
To be honest I don't know why I am even considering the M8 because of the camera, but I guess I have the sentiment for the previous one.
Anyway, my biggest concern with Z2 is overheating. I went to Vodafone shop and turned on the Camera app to see how the phone behaves. Within 1-2 minutes it got noticably warm, just because the screen and app was on...
How widespread do you think the overheating problem is? Logically speaking, if something is sealed very well for water not getting in, than it must be not so great with heat dissapation... Unless it is made of aluminum...
I don't want a camera phone having a camera which I cannot use because of overheating...
Also, is it difficult to flash stock firmware over branded one, with sim lock present? Does the phone need to be unlocked?
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The one you tried in vodafone store was probably on for whole day i.e., screen, speaker, demo... therefore it was already hot prior your camera shooting trial. I have no problem with my device. Trust me HTC M7 heat problem is a lot worse due to its metal case. Sony used combine materials including plastic, glass and aluminum therefore heat is not as bad as metal housing in general.
Worst case scenario, it is waterproof so just give it a shower, will help to reduce heat issue
Feels like I might just get the Z2. Ijust have the issue of the dev community for the device. Since its a new device, I have a feeling that the dev community will be strong but that we shall see.
Plus me getting the Z2 depends on my stupid carrier keeping it in stock xD. They released the device here and with 2 days all the carriers ran out of stock. So lets hope I get my hands one xD
I think I answered this question to myself...
Until Sony fixes the overheating problem (provided it can be addressed through software and it is not the hardware at fault), I will not get this phone.
I went to Vodafone Ireland store close by and put the phone to test. I started the camera app and launched 4k video and left it going, while I was playing with HTC M8 and Galaxy S5 (ugly phone and the same design all over again...)...
Well, after around 5 minutes I got the overheating message... Keep in mind when I started playing with the phone it was cold (no one playing with it, screen off)... The temperature now is around 20-22 idle.
Ok, I thought, It can be forgiven as I do not give a damn about 4k... So after it crashed and took me to the screen, I opened photo app again and managed to take 4 pictures before I got the message again and when the app force closed... After 10 seconds I did the same and the same story...
All I managed was to laugh out loud, while playing with the HTC camera and having its chasis still cold, and I just left the store...
Those temperatures cannot be good for any internals inside, especially the battery. I can bet Z2 users will have their batteries deteriorated significantly by the end of this year, if they use it as GPS nav, gaming devices or... Just as a camera...
RIDICULOUS... But I guess I will be tracking the forums and see if any of the firmwares fixes the problem, if not, I will wait patiently for Q3 phones this year as there is nothing that ticks my boxes at the moment.
Thanks.
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I think I answered this question to myself...
Until Sony fixes the overheating problem (provided it can be addressed through software and it is not the hardware at fault), I will not get this phone.
I went to Vodafone Ireland store close by and put the phone to test. I started the camera app and launched 4k video and left it going, while I was playing with HTC M8 and Galaxy S5 (ugly phone and the same design all over again...)...
Well, after around 5 minutes I got the overheating message... Keep in mind when I started playing with the phone it was cold (no one playing with it, screen off)... The temperature now is around 20-22 idle.
Ok, I thought, It can be forgiven as I do not give a damn about 4k... So after it crashed and took me to the screen, I opened photo app again and managed to take 4 pictures before I got the message again and when the app force closed... After 10 seconds I did the same and the same story...
All I managed was to laugh out loud, while playing with the HTC camera and having its chasis still cold, and I just left the store...
Those temperatures cannot be good for any internals inside, especially the battery. I can bet Z2 users will have their batteries deteriorated significantly by the end of this year, if they use it as GPS nav, gaming devices or... Just as a camera...
RIDICULOUS... But I guess I will be tracking the forums and see if any of the firmwares fixes the problem, if not, I will wait patiently for Q3 phones this year as there is nothing that ticks my boxes at the moment.
Thanks.
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Camera is set to shutdown at 65c cpu temp, which is nothing in todays technology. So no, it wont affect battery or something else. Also what do you expect, you make 4k recording, turn temperatures to hell and then take pictures, outcome clear to me. If you start by taking pictures that wont happen. And m8 is not a factor here, its probably imposible to make any smartphone overheat by taking 4mpixel photos lol.
valdigre said:
I think I answered this question to myself...
Until Sony fixes the overheating problem (provided it can be addressed through software and it is not the hardware at fault), I will not get this phone.
I went to Vodafone Ireland store close by and put the phone to test. I started the camera app and launched 4k video and left it going, while I was playing with HTC M8 and Galaxy S5 (ugly phone and the same design all over again...)...
Well, after around 5 minutes I got the overheating message... Keep in mind when I started playing with the phone it was cold (no one playing with it, screen off)... The temperature now is around 20-22 idle.
Ok, I thought, It can be forgiven as I do not give a damn about 4k... So after it crashed and took me to the screen, I opened photo app again and managed to take 4 pictures before I got the message again and when the app force closed... After 10 seconds I did the same and the same story...
All I managed was to laugh out loud, while playing with the HTC camera and having its chasis still cold, and I just left the store...
Those temperatures cannot be good for any internals inside, especially the battery. I can bet Z2 users will have their batteries deteriorated significantly by the end of this year, if they use it as GPS nav, gaming devices or... Just as a camera...
RIDICULOUS... But I guess I will be tracking the forums and see if any of the firmwares fixes the problem, if not, I will wait patiently for Q3 phones this year as there is nothing that ticks my boxes at the moment.
Thanks.
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No offence here but really you buy a smartphone just to shoot 4K?
So I just got my z2. YAY!!!!
Sad part is that I didn't get the noise cancelling ear buds. #WelcomeToTheMiddleEast
On the other hand. I just love the feel of the device. It just feels right. The aluminum and glass feel just perfect. It's feels a bit more premium than the M8 imo.
Problems. The device heats up. But tbh I live in a hot country so it really doesn't matter XD. The heat is more towards the top part and the device just heated up when I cranked the brightness high and started recording 4k video(Which I doubt I shall ever use in the near future)
Now all I got to do is get a case and a screen protector so that I don't destroy it in my rough daily use
Hope my short review helped anyone
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vipaman said:
So I just got my z2. YAY!!!!
Sad part is that I didn't get the noise cancelling ear buds. #WelcomeToTheMiddleEast
On the other hand. I just love the feel of the device. It just feels right. The aluminum and glass feel just perfect. It's feels a bit more premium than the M8 imo.
Problems. The device heats up. But tbh I live in a hot country so it really doesn't matter XD. The heat is more towards the top part and the device just heated up when I cranked the brightness high and started recording 4k video(Which I doubt I shall ever use in the near future)
Now all I got to do is get a case and a screen protector so that I don't destroy it in my rough daily use
Hope my short review helped anyone
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Can you do a test for me, please?
Could you actively use the phone for a while (say 3g browsing or wifi) so that it becomes warm at the back, and once it gets warm, can you open the camera app and try to record 3-5 minute hd video or take at least 10 pictures in the row?
I am wondering if you get the warning message.
I just sold my M8 and ordered the Z2, I'm excited, I hope it was worth it!
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valdigre said:
Can you do a test for me, please?
Could you actively use the phone for a while (say 3g browsing or wifi) so that it becomes warm at the back, and once it gets warm, can you open the camera app and try to record 3-5 minute hd video or take at least 10 pictures in the row?
I am wondering if you get the warning message.
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Okay so I tried that. And nothing much happened. It just got a bit hot. like it wasnt that hot. Keep in mind I tried this indoors when the air-conditioning was on was thats something.
I live in a hot country where temperatures can reach 40+ Celsius or 100+ Fahrenheit but still I dont find the phone to be that hot. It does become hot ever so slightly but thats expected.
Hope I helped you out.
JoSway said:
I just sold my M8 and ordered the Z2, I'm excited, I hope it was worth it!
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I was inclined to the M8 in the beginning but now I feel this device is better in terms of hardware as compared to Sony.
Development is real slow but thats expect from Sony devices. As far as stock goes, Its not bad but can definitely be improved. Sony actually did a really amazing job with the software.
Believe me you will love the Z2
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Okay so I tried that. And nothing much happened. It just got a bit hot. like it wasnt that hot. Keep in mind I tried this indoors when the air-conditioning was on was thats something.
I live in a hot country where temperatures can reach 40+ Celsius or 100+ Fahrenheit but still I dont find the phone to be that hot. It does become hot ever so slightly but thats expected.
Hope I helped you out.
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That is the thing, the phone is not expected to get hot when doing not so really intensive tasks like browsing, downloading, or recording hd video/taking pictures... I had Galaxy S 1, 2, HTC One, Note 3, played with M8, Galaxy S5 and those phones only get "warm" when sat nav or comparable heavy task...
If your phone gets very warm at home with AC on, than what do you expect will happen when you try to use it outside at 35 degrees in your country?
Nothing like this would happen with any other competition's phone, seriously... It must be a design flaw, those problems were present with previous Z's as well if my memory serves me right.
No, I don't care about 4k video recording, I would survive this overheating problem if the phone overheated only in this case, but overheating when taking pictures after doing some light intensive tasks? Unacceptable...
I am pretty certain it can survive for a long time. The thing that gets hot is the glass not the metal frame. And when it's hot it's not hot as in u touch and u r gonna burn yourself.
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Hello all,
I just received my 7.1 and thought I'd just give everyone some quick impressions. The "Blue" color is almost black it's so dark. Not a deal breaker for me but it's darker than I expected.
It feels good. Solid. The screen is pretty good as well and bright enough to be usable in direct sunlight. Not Samsung bright but good.
It seems pretty snappy overall but I'm used to using an S8+ and an Essential PH-1 (the PH-1 has battery issues that Essential won't fix so the 7.1 is it's replacement) which are both very quick phones. It's not slow by any means I'm just used to super fast.
I've spent most of the afternoon getting it setup and installing apps and only used about 40% of the battery but got three hours of SOT so that seems somewhat promising.
Played with the camera just a bit. The pic I posted is straight out of the camera.
It came on the September security patch and no updates are available as of yet.
It's bare bones Android as expected but there are a couple of settings that I can't find one being how to enable the battery percentage in the status bar. I've enabled System UI Tuner and it's not in there or in any of the Battery settings that I can find.
And I can confirm that it is a dual sim device and I can enable WiFi calling but it remains to be seen if it will work because I am on AT&T prepaid and pretty sure I don't have it.
It comes with some earbuds a charger and cable in the box.
I really want to put it in a case. I hope some become available soon.
Anyway if anyone has a question I will answer what I can.
I seen a few camera samples before yours, and the pictures look good until you zoom in a little and see that all the detail is gone. Do you think it’s just Nokia’s camera app? I’d like to see how google camera does on this phone.
I don't know what to say about that except the sample on my pc looks much better than the sample here. I can't explain it, but it's plain to see. I would try a gcam version if I can figure out which one seems the most compatible. I can install ProShot and see if that gets better results.
I haven't spent much time with the camera app but I thought it was fine as far as usability goes but then again I'm not all that demanding. I'm more of a point and shoot user.
It's not as good as my S8+ but I really wouldn't expect it to be either for less than half the cost.
If the weather clears up here maybe I'll take the S8 and the 7.1 out and do a comparison.
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I don't know what to say about that except the sample on my pc looks much better than the sample here. I can't explain it, but it's plain to see. I would try a gcam version if I can figure out which one seems the most compatible. I can install ProShot and see if that gets better results.
I haven't spent much time with the camera app but I thought it was fine as far as usability goes but then again I'm not all that demanding. I'm more of a point and shoot user.
It's not as good as my S8+ but I really wouldn't expect it to be either for less than half the cost.
If the weather clears up here maybe I'll take the S8 and the 7.1 out and do a comparison.
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Could you upload the same somewhere else that lets you do it lossless?
I'm returning the phone to Amazon. The case situation is ridiculous. Nokia support referred me to a Nokia case that Amazon says "one to three months" wait. When I asked the support rep why Nokia didn't have anything ready at the launch they just referred me back to the Nokia case. The phone is slippery and I've already almost dropped it more than once. I'm returning it before I damage it.
Edit: Bought a Pixel 2 instead which is what I should have done in the first place.
Mmm was thinking of replacing my PH-1 with this. I don't have battery issues but my touch screen is like super fu**ed with ghost touch, flickering, and bad service in my area (switching to att in few weeks). Amazon is willing to give me a full refund but was not sure if I should take it or RMA with Essential for screen.
You just returning the Nokia cause no case options ? Everything else seems to work straight? Obviously anything camera wise can beat the essential so that's why I was looking into 7.1 lol.
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I'm returning the phone to Amazon. The case situation is ridiculous. Nokia support referred me to a Nokia case that Amazon says "one to three months" wait. When I asked the support rep why Nokia didn't have anything ready at the launch they just referred me back to the Nokia case. The phone is slippery and I've already almost dropped it more than once. I'm returning it before I damage it.
Edit: Bought a Pixel 2 instead which is what I should have done in the first place.
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Mmm was thinking of replacing my PH-1 with this. I don't have battery issues but my touch screen is like super fu**ed with ghost touch, flickering, and bad service in my area (switching to att in few weeks). Amazon is willing to give me a full refund but was not sure if I should take it or RMA with Essential for screen.
You just returning the Nokia cause no case options ? Everything else seems to work straight? Obviously anything camera wise can beat the essential so that's why I was looking into 7.1 lol.
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Yes I returned it because I'm not comfortable carrying a slippery bar of soap around until someone decides to release a case. The phone itself was fine for what it cost. I almost dropped it a couple of times and if I drop it without a case it's on me. Nokia screwed the pooch here because it's a decent device let down by absolutely no third party support. Nokia can't even deliver their own cases! Those are showing as one to three months to deliver. All the Chinese cases have very vague shipping dates from the middle of November to the Middle of December.
I realize not everyone will feel this way but I decided I would be better off returning it now. I really wanted a Pixel 2 anyway so that's what I did.
The camera was decent and I managed to get a Gcam mod working on it (GCam-5.1.018-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.3b1) but never really got the time to test it out quality-wise.
If you can live with little to no options for a case it's worth the money as far as I'm concerned.
Thanks for the insight man!
I may just order one once I send this PH-1 back then. Ill just get a universal slip in phone case or flipcase from 5below until I'm able to get a case for it then. That or steal otn of my kids Power Ranger socks from the dryer and carry it around like that till end of November.
grumpygoof said:
Yes I returned it because I'm not comfortable carrying a slippery bar of soap around until someone decides to release a case. The phone itself was fine for what it cost. I almost dropped it a couple of times and if I drop it without a case it's on me. Nokia screwed the pooch here because it's a decent device let down by absolutely no third party support. Nokia can't even deliver their own cases! Those are showing as one to three months to deliver. All the Chinese cases have very vague shipping dates from the middle of November to the Middle of December.
I realize not everyone will feel this way but I decided I would be better off returning it now. I really wanted a Pixel 2 anyway so that's what I did.
The camera was decent and I managed to get a Gcam mod working on it (GCam-5.1.018-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V8.3b1) but never really got the time to test it out quality-wise.
If you can live with little to no options for a case it's worth the money as far as I'm concerned.
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