UPDATE: The pool closed after 30 days, but you can still show your need for the feature by adding a post in this thread.
Right now, Remix handles background app activity differently from native Android - if you close the app window, the app is killed - won't continue running in background.
At first glance it feels intuitive and right, because it's battery & performance friendly, but...
Many apps were designed to base their activity in the background like: messaging & social media apps, e-mail clients, network monitors and quite much any app that uses notifications.
Of course you can still run them in background with the window minimized - but that takes up the taskbar space with each background app.
In Windows you can close the window, and the app goes into the traybar (near the date) and doesn't take up the taskbar space.
What I'm requesting is simple:
An autorun permission toggle in settings
By default apps would have autostart switched off, but you could always switch it on for selected apps.
This way we wouldn't have to worry about performance or battery usage - system will still use only what we want it to.
Please vote in the pool and share your thoughts on this suggestion. If you are not convinced, then read further on
Examples where this feature is needed:
Messenger app:
- notifies you about new messages/calls in the notifcation area
- pops a chat head once someone sends you a message (if feature enabled)
Cloes Messenger window -> no notifications received/no chat heads popups.
Actually what's weird - it sometimes autostarts itself - at least on my device. I couldn't find how that happens, but it seems random.
Gmail / e-mail apps:
- send you notifications when you receive an e-mail
Close window -> No notification
Facebook/Instagram/Twitter/Tapatalk/YouTube these also use the power of background activity by notifying you about new stuff. Closing window -> no notication.
There are also monitoring apps - f.e. Internet Speed Meter which main feature is a notification in the notification area showing real-time bandwith usage. It won't work for Remix unless you keep the window open/minimized.
Clock app for settng alarm -> Close Window -> No alarm
Come on guys!
I personally would love to have this feature and I bet the community would want it too! But, for this to happen, we need more votes!
I vote, yes for the toggle.
Yes of course but for Selected apps.
@johnb111 Like I described in the OP, it would be just for the selected apps.
I need it !! Please !!
Need this
very need this
Ni10God said:
very need this
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Need this
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I need it !! Please !!
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No need for this kind of repetition.
Just thank the OP's first post, and that counts as support for the addition of this feature.
Unless you have specific details to add, it's better to avoid cluttering the thread.
No offence meant to anyone, just a suggestion to keep in mind.
Can you please confirm my understanding that Remix OS does not have background notifications if the app is closed unlike the normal Android OS? Do you think this is a deal breaker since im considering to get a tablet with Remix OS in it vs the one with Android 5.1.1? Thanks in advance for your thougths!
Yes, that's correct - once you close an app window you will not get any notifications from it.
But an autostart toggle could solve this?
@[msd]
Yes, autostart toggle allows for app to start automatically - not just at boot, but also after you close it.
Native, clean Android allows all apps to autorun by default.
Phoenix OS f.e. added a toggle. By default app can NOT autorun, but you can always enable this permission.
I"m on 3.0.207 Remix OS, and get notifications after hit "Quit app" at Gmail. How it works??
@[msd]
Depends on how the app is designed. I don't know why it works after closing, Remix OS has no documentation for how it works, so its hard to say.
If you close Messenger app window, you will not get any further notifications or if you close Alarm app, it won't ring. There are many examples, but it's worst with messaging apps and apps that operate in background only.
It"s true, the Viber doesn"t work after close it, only the Gmail.
Google always break the rules, haha
@[msd] its probably the Google services that are always working in the background
Yepp, I"ve updated it.
Override the autrorun
With the app SD Maid, I know you can change the autorun for apps. Try that.
Sleep and Shutdown support for Intel Atom
This is an ideal OS for the Intel Atom mini laptops. I would love to see the sleep/shutdown issue resolved on the next update. It's they only problem I have discovered while using it on this processor.
Currently I work around it by not letting it sleep. I shut it down by initiating a restart, and then powering off when the HP splashscreen or Bios message appears.
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Whenever anyone asks about stuff running the background and how to kill it, the responses always include - "don't worry about it" - Why not? Why should I be ok with the idea that a program that I downloaded, but never ran, is running in the background?
People don't say its 'ok' for all of those apps to be running in the background. It just depends on the type of app before you start to worry. It's 'ok' for some of those apps since they may do some sort of service which is required by either the user or the system.
Another thing to remember is that Android will manage running apps by itself, so when necessary it will kill apps to make sure it has enough available memory to run stuff that you manually start up.
If you'd rather be in control of manually killing running apps then I'd recommend a free all-in-one app called ZDBox (available via the android market):
ZDbox is an amazing all-in-one toolbox. Five stars in xda forum.
ZDbox is an amazing and free all-in-one toolbox. It holds a collection of useful tools and has a nice and easy to use interface. With ZDbox you’re getting your mobile/cell phone under control, do easily some optimization and customize it to your needs. An essential tool which you will love! 5 stars in xda forum.
★ Widgets: Keep screen always on, kill all tasks, WiFi on/off, airplane mode on/off, brightness adjustment, sound settings, rotate screen on/off, bluetooth on/off, start/stop sync, switch between 2G/3G, app lock on/off, GPS on/off, APN on/off (mobile access point), flashlight on/off
★ Battery: Monitoring and showing lots of information about remaining battery time, temperature, health, time since last boot, necessary time until full charge and so on
★ Traffic counter: Monthly/daily mobile data usage overview, shows remaining data traffic, detailed data usage information for each app.
★ Do not disturb: Just set days and the time when you need your privacy and you won’t be disturbed by your phone. Set phone to silent, vibration or airplane mode.
★ App lock: Protect apps with a password or pattern, for exmaple your contacts, Facebook, Twitter, Gmail and so on
★ Task killer: Kill all apps at once, define protected apps which won’t be killed, set auto kill when screen gets locked, mark single or multiple apps to kill
★ Notification bar: One tap on the bar shows remaining battery time, running apps, how much data traffic is left and if app lock is active or not. A tap on these informations starts ZDbox.
★ Uninstaller: Shows used/available internal and SD card memory. Apps can be easily uninstalled. Single or multiple (batch) uninstall possible.
★ App to SD: Move apps to your SD card. Single or multiple (batch) move possible. Only for Android 2.2 and 2.3.
•Cache cleaner:
With Cache Cleaner you can clean your cache fast and easily.With auto cache cleaner ,
you don't need manual operation by yourself everyday.ZDbox is your best scavenger,free your phone's memory,make it as light as a feather.
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Since you don't need to use them, why you download them?
Well, I think the free all-in-one app is a good choice.
there are lots of apps functioning like that
Because google loves to spy on us.
It's ok because it's how you get a lot of functionality from some apps. Some Widgets for example need to update regularly (while you are on the homescreen at least) so that you get the latest information.
A well written app will only update / run when necessary (using the AlarmManager class typically). Too frequent updating will cause problems with battery life, none at all will cause out of date data being shown (e.g. for my Awesome Widgets I have to update my clock widget very regularly while it is being viewed in order that I can update the clock time (and weather if it has changed)).
It's not about spying, it's about getting functionality out of your Android device.
All the best,
Ash
its just bull****! sory! i have had bRIA take up like 40% of battery even tho i never ran it and i thought it wasnt running ... had to uninstall it... android for sure is great in some areas but definately not perfect,and pls dont tell average users about startup managers etc.
lol nice rant
I've done some searching and I haven't found anything like this. I'm not an Android dev but I think I understand enough about the model to believe my idea possible in some form.
So...
Programs that run constantly require a persistent notification so the system won't kill them. I run Talkatone, Tasker, Light Manager LED Settings which all have the option to run persistent or take a chance and have them killed without a persistent notification. This sucks because the status bar gets cluttered with things that are always there but I don't need to constantly see them. But Android 4.3, which I'm running, does this by design (for largely good reasons, I believe).
Would it be possible to have a program (I'll call it "Watcher") which creates its own persistent notification that then keep tabs on other programs that you want to always run but don't want their persistent notification.
More clearly, say I always want Tasker to run but I don't want its notification. I turn off persistent notifications in Tasker's options then add Tasker to the Watcher's list. Whenever Tasker gets killed by the system due to resources, Watcher notices this and restarts it shortly thereafter. The advantage is that the system can still reclaim resources when it needs them but the notifications don't clutter the status bar.
I am imagining a rich notification where maybe every Watched app's icon is shown in a small square with a number by it showing how many times Watcher had to restart it recently.
Unfortunately, I'm not an Android dev and I've only done enough research to make me think it might be possible. Does this app exist already? Is it impossible? Is it possible enough for me to consider turning this into my first Android project?
Thoughts?
Hello.
I having few issue with Whatsapp on Xiaomi Black Shark & tried looking on Net. Unfortunately no answer for it.
1. Push notification didn't working unless I restart the phone. The problem come back after few hours.
2. Voice note send empty voice note to recipient.
Anyone facing same problem?
Factory reset didn't help at all.
global version with JoyUI
aM- said:
Hello.
I having few issue with Whatsapp on Xiaomi Black Shark & tried looking on Net. Unfortunately no answer for it.
1. Push notification didn't working unless I restart the phone. The problem come back after few hours.
2. Voice note send empty voice note to recipient.
Anyone facing same problem?
Factory reset didn't help at all.
global version with JoyUI
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you should check a few things, first in the settings menu under battery you have you have smart background managment, make sure whatsapp is on the list thats allowed to run in background.
next go to app settings and look at the permissions whatsapp has, maybe notification permissions were blocked for some reason.
I also having a same issue. my XBS Helo seem cannot push notification for WhatsApp and Message. After few hour turn off the notification cannot popup the notification. it only pupup after a few minute I turn off. But once a few hour the problem come again. Please solve this issue XBS developer. is not just me but more members that using XBS having the same issue.
I'm using the china rom also included having that issues.
For messaging apps i setup the following and never had a problem:
- in Phone Manager -> permissions -> autostart check your app to let it start at boot
- in Phone Manager -> Battery -> Smart Background Management check your app to leave it running in background instead of killing it
- in recent apps drag down the app you want to lock it and never kill it
Doing these i never miss a notification from my apps.
loriz said:
For messaging apps i setup the following and never had a problem:
- in Phone Manager -> permissions -> autostart check your app to let it start at boot
- in Phone Manager -> Battery -> Smart Background Management check your app to leave it running in background instead of killing it
- in recent apps drag down the app you want to lock it and never kill it
Doing these i never miss a notification from my apps.
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hii there can u share phone manager apk here..coz in global rom we dont have that app...
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hii there can u share phone manager apk here..coz in global rom we dont have that app...
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You're not going to want it for the global rom, trust me. It's annoying and can stop 3rd party sms apps to stop working because it constantly posts an alert warning if you try to send a text in the background. If you have the global and are rooted, get app ops. It's pretty much the phone manager, available on the play store, and soooo much better than phone manager itself.
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You're not going to want it for the global rom, trust me. It's annoying and can stop 3rd party sms apps to stop working because it constantly posts an alert warning if you try to send a text in the background. If you have the global and are rooted, get app ops. It's pretty much the phone manager, available on the play store, and soooo much better than phone manager itself.
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thanks bro..
loriz said:
For messaging apps i setup the following and never had a problem:
- in Phone Manager -> permissions -> autostart check your app to let it start at boot
- in Phone Manager -> Battery -> Smart Background Management check your app to leave it running in background instead of killing it
- in recent apps drag down the app you want to lock it and never kill it
Doing these i never miss a notification from my apps.
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In Whatsapp setting ... POPUP NOTIFICATIONS is grey if I tap on it , I get the info " ( in Grey .. popup notifications NOT AVAILABLE ) .. POP UP NOTIFICATIONS ON AVAILABLE IN YOUR CURRENT ANDOID VERSION "
What can I do?
( see att. )
I have a problem where background services getting killed when recent are cleared.
Apps on question run at boot without visible windows eg. KinScreen, lux, fluid gesture
I have disable miui optimization in developer options, selected no restriction on battery saver and set apps to autostart.
problem still persist if recent are cleared all these services get killed.
Any way to prevent background services being killed??
I have root and open to suggestion but prefer to stay on miui.
i have same question,,
I have this issue too. What I did was lock my apps in recents. Not a clean way to do it, but it works.
NOTE: I posted this same issue in MIUI forums and seems that we're not alone and the issue is MIUI RAM management itself. I hope it gets fixed in future MIUI versions but for now the workaround I gave is our best shot. Hope this helps and enjoy your Poco, I know I am
First, in app info sections, you turn on autostart for each required app.
Secondly, in battery settings, give each required app >no restrictions policy.
Thirdly, lock them in recent menu.
Done.
You need to do these steps for apps such as alarm, email clients and the ones you mentioned. I had to do this with Google photos as well so that it could sync on its own.
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First, in app info sections, you turn on autostart for each required app.
Secondly, in battery settings, give each required app >no restrictions policy.
Thirdly, lock them in recent menu.
Done.
You need to do these steps for apps such as alarm, email clients and the ones you mentioned. I had to do this with Google photos as well so that it could sync on its own.
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yes ive done all this but the problem with this is
1. my recent mennu is filled with locked apps
2. some apps start as purely service no visible window
i have to launch it manually so the window appears in recents. eg lux and kinscreen.
any solution to make miui to treat apps and services like stock android. No other OS does this. This is ridiculous
I'm out of ideas now.:laugh:
Check if disabling cleaning of cache memory in battery settings changes anything for you.
Same here. Tried this all, but apps still getting killed. I can't use my gear fit 2 pro app in background. Everytime I clear the recent menu gear got disconnected. Someone please help!
POCO F1 - No root - Locked bootloader - Fully stock
This is the most annoying thing about MIUI. I use Blokada and I need to keep it locked on recents which I hate the most. If I don't lock it and clear recets, Blokada gets killed and VPN gets turned OFF. Can't use live wallpaper for the same reason. On AOSP based ROMs, this problem doesn't exist. It smartly understands which apps need to run in the background and which apps can be killed. Hence, no need to keep an app on the recents. I don't understand what's the necessity of being so aggressive about RAM management when we have 6/8 GB of RAM. Due to this pathetic RAM management, I always see almost 3.9/4 GB free RAM out of 6 GB. And as we know, free RAM is wasted RAM.
New here. Any help would be appreciated. I have followed videos and other posts but still can't consistently get notifications unless the app is open in the background. Any way around that besides locking it? Are we just limited to 5 apps that get consistent notifications by locking them in the background?
There are 10 apps (can't change the apps) that Oppo gives you the option to auto launch. If enabled these 10 apps will always display notifications. You can then select another 5 from all your other apps.
Before I got rid of the phone I downloaded an app to autolaunch a bunch of my apps so it's running in the background.
any way to set NOVA Launcher or other third party launcher as default here ?
Dear OPPO if you are reading here: Please release OTA to fix this problem as you just made on Android 13 and Find N1 ....
wolfgart said:
any way to set NOVA Launcher or other third party launcher as default here ?
Dear OPPO if you are reading here: Please release OTA to fix this problem as you just made on Android 13 and Find N1 ....
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There are threads on this already.
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There are threads on this already.
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ok but 0 solutions atm
raymondotango said:
There are 10 apps (can't change the apps) that Oppo gives you the option to auto launch. If enabled these 10 apps will always display notifications. You can then select another 5 from all your other apps.
Before I got rid of the phone I downloaded an app to autolaunch a bunch of my apps so it's running in the background.
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You can further lock 5 apps in the recent apps so that the system doesn't kill them and you'll get the notifications. In addition I would suggest to deactivate all battery optimisations for the apps you wish to receive the notifications:
Settings - apps - app management - you choose the desired app - battery usage - activate allow background activity.
Then you go to App - associated launch ( this is valid for the apps for which you DIDN'T allow auto launch) and enable it for the apps you wish to get the notifications for.
Lastly go to Battery - more settings - optimize battery use and for the apps you wish to get the notifications you need to choose "don't optimise".
Hope it helps
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You can further lock 5 apps in the recent apps so that the system doesn't kill them and you'll get the notifications. In addition I would suggest to deactivate all battery optimisations for the apps you wish to receive the notifications:
Settings - apps - app management - you choose the desired app - battery usage - activate allow background activity.
Then you go to App - associated launch ( this is valid for the apps for which you DIDN'T allow auto launch) and enable it for the apps you wish to get the notifications for.
Lastly go to Battery - more settings - optimize battery use and for the apps you wish to get the notifications you need to choose "don't optimise".
Hope it helps
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Unless the apps are running in the background (excluding the ones that you set to autolaunch), even with battery optimisation disabled etc you will not get timely notifications.
raymondotango said:
Unless the apps are running in the background (excluding the ones that you set to autolaunch), even with battery optimisation disabled etc you will not get timely notifications.
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Yeah that's what I have noticed. I'm toying with the idea to use a secondary phone to get my notifications. Don't want to go through the hassle of sending it back.
I've had mine a week now and I'm getting used to only getting limited notifications. I just can't get my head around why they prioritise battery life over receiving notifications in China? I've always kept notifications to a minimum on my phones but 5 apps just isn't enough. You need a couple of messaging apps, maybe social media, banking etc to alert you to suspicious activity, they soon add up.