I really want to like this phone, it has a great reputation for speed and the removal battery sounds awesome.
However, a quick scan trough the forum on this site and Android Central I can say that there are way more posts dedicated to failures including bootlooping and general compent issues than I've ever seen on a HTC phone.
I really want to get this phone for the removable battery but would love to see testimonials of LG G5 users who have had no issues but also comments from people who have had issues...
Are the rumours of low build quality from LG exaggerated?
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Well some of the issues are exagerated in my opinion
I have a H850 version bought like 4 months ago and I am more then happy with it
Software is pretty much stable and hardware is quite good
Sure LG could have got a few things better polished but if you want my advise, go for it!
I think it has to do with where you buy the phone - it sure looks like american versions have way more issues than european ones.
Mine is the european one and I haven't had any problems since I got the phone in May. Just be sure you can live without custom roms ... it's beginning to look like we'll be stuck on (more or less modified) stock roms forever.
I'd recommend the G5 to anybody that uses their phones with stock, but if you want customisation and proper roms/themes you should look elsewhere.
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Well some of the issues are exagerated in my opinion
I have a H850 version bought like 4 months ago and I am more then happy with it
Software is pretty much stable and hardware is quite good
Sure LG could have got a few things better polished but if you want my advise, go for it!
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Well I would be buying mine from my carrier so would is the h850 version common or just for unlocked models?
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I think it has to do with where you buy the phone - it sure looks like american versions have way more issues than european ones.
Mine is the european one and I haven't had any problems since I got the phone in May. Just be sure you can live without custom roms ... it's beginning to look like we'll be stuck on (more or less modified) stock roms forever.
I'd recommend the G5 to anybody that uses their phones with stock, but if you want customisation and proper roms/themes you should look elsewhere.
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Oh well I'm in Canada so I guess there is a chance I might get one if the bad versions...
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Look at my thread.
Absolutely exaggerated.
My LG G5 has bootlooping i think is real
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Well I would be buying mine from my carrier so would is the h850 version common or just for unlocked models?
Oh well I'm in Canada so I guess there is a chance I might get one if the bad versions...
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For me, I'm in Vancouver and got my G5 from Rogers about 2 months ago. Luckily, I haven't had any of the issues some are having like bootlooping issues. However, I prefer to stay stock with my G5 and I've been very happy with it. Battery life can be subpar but I have a spare battery with me anyways so no big deal. Overall, it's a great phone with a great camera (which is why I bought it). Hopefully, u have no issues yourself if you decide to get it too.
Before I bought my phone LG G5 H860. I read a lot of reviews and mostly had a bad reviews about it. But still I decided to buy it. When I first held it it feels like premium not like some of the reviews that it feels cheap. Haha. Coming from an LG G2 and was really a big leap for me. I gave my G2 to my mother and she was happy. About the performance, even it's just a stock ROM it performs great. And I also can live without root and custom ROM's. Battery is kinda low for a 2800mAh but what can I say, it's removable and can easily be swapped. . Camera is also one of the best. The lack of autofocus in the front cam and wide angle like the V20 is just the missing features. But overall G5 is a great premium phone. I'll use my G5 until it breaks. Not planning on upgrading yearly. Haha. Therefore G5 is the best for me. I was thinking of V20 but it's bigger and a bit bulky for me. G2 and G5 have the width size but G5 is a bit longer. :victory:. That's all.
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I really want to like this phone, it has a great reputation for speed and the removal battery sounds awesome.
However, a quick scan trough the forum on this site and Android Central I can say that there are way more posts dedicated to failures including bootlooping and general compent issues than I've ever seen on a HTC phone.
I really want to get this phone for the removable battery but would love to see testimonials of LG G5 users who have had no issues but also comments from people who have had issues...
Are the rumours of low build quality from LG exaggerated?
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Just remember... As with everything... Way more people will take the time to complain/moan about issues in life than those who have nothing to complain about. Ie.. very rarely does someone take the time to actually say "hey, i have no issues, phone works great".
I personally like a lot of others, have had zero issues with my G5. Whether that be down to it being European and an H850 compared to any American variant.. or just luck... Who knows..
Iv'e been using the G5 for over 4 months now and it couldn't be much better, the build quality ia top notch i dont have any gaps what so ever and it feels like a premium device, the feeling in the hand is simply great.
This device is blazing fast, the first thing you will notice is how fast and lag free this phone is, the battery is more than enough it lasts about a day and a half, the camera is best in class.
I personally prefer LCD IPS panels cuz it has a more natural colors than amoled, and the G5 display is very bright in direct sunlight
Overall the G5 Is the best flagship in 2016 in my opinion
I definitely think that the build issues are exaggerated. I have the ls992 variant. Not a single problem. The above poster is correct in saying that people are more likely to post something negative than positive. That goes for just about anything. If a Dr prescribes you a new medication, and you make the mistake of Googling it - you may just end up with the belief that all your limbs will turn black and fall off, your spouse will leave you, etc etc. Lol. In other words, the most perfect product will not be immune to those who make negative claims. Either real, or imagined.
I agree that there are those who got lucky and have 0 issues with the device, but I have had samsung devices, HTC devices, and now with the 6P huawei devices and none of them had the glaring problems the G5 has had. Those manufacturers usually are pretty consistent when it comes to build quality. Granted, Samsung is under fire right now for exploding Note 7s lol, but I am pretty sure the look and feel of each device is pretty much going to be the same experience for everyone. Things such as GPS being a problem, or the display having discoloration would be a rare occurrence with them. If LG had consistency in regards to build quality I think the complaints would halve. It feels like some phones were built properly with care, and others were slapped together.
My experience with the phone has been mixed; GPS was terrible until I sent it into LG, battery life sucks I can never get more than 12-14 hours on a charge, performance is awesome, the front and rear cameras are both awesome and take great photos, and I have had little issue with the daily operation of the device. However, I did have overheating issues, the GPS would not lock, and the paint finish is bubbling near the bottom of the device. The first two were remedied by sending it in. They want me to send it in again for the third time because of the issue with the finish, but I have already replaced the backing myself just to avoid further issues with their repair center. All and all, it's hard to say if it has been a good or bad experience. There are too many things on both sides. If LG had better build quality, but crappy battery life I'd feel confident enough to say the experience was mostly good, but I can't. I have had many devices over the years and this reigns true. I even have two devices right now, this G5 and the Nexus 6P. I have had 0 issues with my 6P. It feels great, runs great, and looks great.
Look at the attachment I provided, that's not a rare occurrence either. Lots of people had similar issues with the paint finish. I remember a few device reviewers having to get a replacement device to review in order to avoid showing that issue on camera.
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I agree that there are those who got lucky and have 0 issues with the device, but I have had samsung devices, HTC devices, and now with the 6P huawei devices and none of them had the glaring problems the G5 has had. Those manufacturers usually are pretty consistent when it comes to build quality. Granted, Samsung is under fire right now for exploding Note 7s lol, but I am pretty sure the look and feel of each device is pretty much going to be the same experience for everyone. Things such as GPS being a problem, or the display having discoloration would be a rare occurrence with them. If LG had consistency in regards to build quality I think the complaints would halve. It feels like some phones were built properly with care, and others were slapped together.
My experience with the phone has been mixed; GPS was terrible until I sent it into LG, battery life sucks I can never get more than 12-14 hours on a charge, performance is awesome, the front and rear cameras are both awesome and take great photos, and I have had little issue with the daily operation of the device. However, I did have overheating issues, the GPS would not lock, and the paint finish is bubbling near the bottom of the device. The first two were remedied by sending it in. They want me to send it in again for the third time because of the issue with the finish, but I have already replaced the backing myself just to avoid further issues with their repair center. All and all, it's hard to say if it has been a good or bad experience. There are too many things on both sides. If LG had better build quality, but crappy battery life I'd feel confident enough to say the experience was mostly good, but I can't. I have had many devices over the years and this reigns true. I even have two devices right now, this G5 and the Nexus 6P. I have had 0 issues with my 6P. It feels great, runs great, and looks great.
Look at the attachment I provided, that's not a rare occurrence either. Lots of people had similar issues with the paint finish. I remember a few device reviewers having to get a replacement device to review in order to avoid showing that issue on camera.
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Yeah it's a shame because it seems to have everything I would like. But im seeing the same things regarding build quality... I know there are also lots of happy users too but but I've never seen HTC users complaining in droves about bootloop issues, paint chipping, light bleed, etc...
I used to own a Sony Xperia Pro phone and its low memory was not fit for purpose and our made me regret buying Sony products again.
Hard one for me...I hear lots of good things though about LG G5. The fact that it's fast and snappy and camera is one of the best of the year.
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Yeah it's a shame because it seems to have everything I would like. But im seeing the same things regarding build quality... I know there are also lots of happy users too but but I've never seen HTC users complaining in droves about bootloop issues, paint chipping, light bleed, etc...
I used to own a Sony Xperia Pro phone and its low memory was not fit for purpose and our made me regret buying Sony products again.
Hard one for me...I hear lots of good things though about LG G5. The fact that it's fast and snappy and camera is one of the best of the year.
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I'm tired of people that think that every other big brand other than LG doesn't have any build issues..
All of them have issues! Even HTC, Samsung and Apple.
Never heard of build issues on HTC? Here you go. Took me exactly one search to find each.
HTC bootloop:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-m9/560133-my-stock-m9-stuck-bootloop-can-t-boot-recovery-help-please.html
HTC paint chipping:
https://m.reddit.com/r/htcone/comments/2ab178/chipping_on_gunmetal_m8/
HTC light bleeding:
https://www.google.co.il/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/htc/comments/4if7x4/backlight_bleeding_htc_10/?client=ms-android-om-lge
I have had issues with HTC devices in the past, sent them into HTC, and have received a FIXED device. I would have no issues sending my HTC device to their repair center. Yes, no manufacturer is perfect and there are bound to have problems too. It just isn't as pronounced and as common.
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I'm tired of people that think that every other big brand other than LG doesn't have any build issues..
All of them have issues! Even HTC, Samsung and Apple.
Never heard of build issues on HTC? Here you go. Took me exactly one search to find each.
HTC bootloop:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...bootloop-can-t-boot-recovery-help-please.html
HTC paint chipping:
https://m.reddit.com/r/htcone/comments/2ab178/chipping_on_gunmetal_m8/
HTC light bleeding:
https://www.google.co.il/amp/s/amp....ght_bleeding_htc_10/?client=ms-android-om-lge
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Lol I walked into that one! I didn't mean LG is the only one, I meant that LG seems to jump out to me as one brand that I've noticed where I see a lot of repair issues in the forums more so than the other brands.... But it may be just by chance that I'm bumping into these bad reports more so than the other brands...
I'm so glad this thread exist!! I just bought this phone from a carrier here in the us 3 days ago. Everything seems good except Bluetooth. Bluetooth is so trash. If I put the phone in my pocket or literally have it more than 1 foot away things get choppy and digital. On 3 headsets. Should I exchange it while I'm still in my 14 days or is this to be expected?
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I'm so glad this thread exist!! I just bought this phone from a carrier here in the us 3 days ago. Everything seems good except Bluetooth. Bluetooth is so trash. If I put the phone in my pocket or literally have it more than 1 foot away things get choppy and digital. On 3 headsets. Should I exchange it while I'm still in my 14 days or is this to be expected?
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Better to exchanged it. And try other handsets if it will be the same.
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Better to exchanged it. And try other handsets if it will be the same.
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Thanks. I really hope this isn't an inherent flaw. Because otherwise I like the handset. Best camera I've used.
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I have been torn between G5 and HTC 10 for some time now and after watching HTC 10 reviews I have come to these conclusions:
Display
Better on G5, more vivid and sharper. HTC 10 one looks too washed out.
Camera
G5 wins no contest here. HTC 10 camera is not bad but low light performance is pretty average, also no wide angle.
Build quality
HTC 10 for sure. LG needs to sort their QC issues.
Design
G5, since HTC 10 looks like a mashup of iphone and old galaxy phones.
Battery
G5's removable options really is better here, even though HTC 10 has got slightly bigger battery. Nothing beats 0-100 in 5 seconds.
UI
I perfer the stock HTC 10 UI over all-white G5's, which is the 1st thing i am looking to change if we ever get root.
Performance
According to Anandtech HTC 10 NAND is almost 35% slower to S7(G5 uses same NAND as S7) in read speed, so G5 will have much better overall performance.
Developement
HTC has confirmed unlocked bootloader and even if its locked by carrier you can easily get it unlocked from HTC. Whereas with G5 its hard to say anything atm.
Finally, HTC have said that they welcome everyone to customize their devices with custom roms and will honor warranty claims if anything goes wrong (upto to a certain extent). With LG its a straight 'NO' and unlocking bootloader means bye bye warranty.
So there you have it, I think i will wait and see how HTC 10 shapes up in next week or so, and maybe then I will decided wether to swap or keep my G5.
Let me know what you guys think.
I think I'd wait a little longer for the HTC to get into more hands.
That being said. I am more interested in the HTC 10 than the G5.
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I'm absolutely loving the G5. My wife had the s7 and neither of us like it. So we both got G5. I have heard lots of bad stories about the G5 but ours are both cosmetically and functionally perfect. She's had hers for a week and me 2 days.
I'm also considering trading mine for the m10. ( only for development) i no doubt feel like I'm downgrading if I trade but I'm a flashaholic and I can't stand no root. However if I trade I'm afraid I will regret it if root is discovered for the G5. Because this phone is a beast! Super fast and solid imo. Wish the HTC at least would have gone with the 820 chipset
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djxn40 said:
I'm absolutely loving the G5. My wife had the s7 and neither of us like it. So we both got G5. I have heard lots of bad stories about the G5 but ours are both cosmetically and functionally perfect. She's had hers for a week and me 2 days.
I'm also considering trading mine for the m10. ( only for development) i no doubt feel like I'm downgrading if I trade but I'm a flashaholic and I can't stand no root. However if I trade I'm afraid I will regret it if root is discovered for the G5. Because this phone is a beast! Super fast and solid imo. Wish the HTC at least would have gone with the 820 chipset
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They did go with the 820
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I'm loving the G5 as well and I'm coming from the M8 and M9. I had a lot of trouble with HTCs customer service and do not plan to ever visit that situation again. The M8 was cool and boom sound great and the development was plentyful. That's all it had,as far ad anything else it was an above average phone. The M9 speaks for itself.I just don't trust HTC enough to put all my eggs in one basket again.
As far as the G5,its been a solid phone IMO. The camera is very good,but could use some tweaking for low light situations. Its speedy and lag free. I've not had any issues other than the casing could have been better. For a $700 flagship, no cut comers should have been took.
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They did go with the 820
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Oh I thought they used the 810! Thanks. 4 gigs of ram ?
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Oh I thought they used the 810! Thanks. 4 gigs of ram ?
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Yes. 4 gigs of ram.
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Yes. 4 gigs of ram.
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Thank you. I guess I looked at the wrong specs or something because I swear it said 810 chipset. I'm going to swing by Sprint store and check it out. I'm not a bells and whistles kind of guy.
I just want good performance and development
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Last I checked there are no full HTC 10 reviews, only glorified hands on using beta devices. When the G5 was being judged off the beta phones, everyone was defending it asking to wait for the official device. We owe the same to HTC.
The only thing I'm comfortable judging is the design, and I'd give that to HTC. The G5 is fairly unattractive. They ruined whatever design they had when they removed their back buttons.
Either way, I'm getting an HTC 10. LG lost a lot of my support with the G4 bootlooping fiasco and the G5 just seems like a gimmick/half baked modular device. Not to mention all the QC issues that have popped up.
I personally think the HTC 10 is setting itself up to be a good phone. I like the simplified look.
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There are some design flaws with HTC 10, like that big arse camera at front and in-your-face notification light ? I like my workplace clutter/distraction free and them 2 will definitely get on nerves.
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There are some design flaws with HTC 10, like that big arse camera at front and in-your-face notification light ? I like my workplace clutter/distraction free and them 2 will definitely get on nerves.
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The notification LED can be turned off. I'd imagine most people would keep it on however since it's a coveted feature throughout most of the community.
That being said, I think the most annoying distraction ever added to a phone is easily the Always on Display. I had to turn it off after my first day at work. I found myself always looking at the phone every time the clock/information moved around to prevent burn in. I also think it's a useless feature and the only thing it's good for is draining battery life.
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Starting my 3rd night with the LG G5. I have seen nothing but good from this phone. My battery life is amazing! The os is blazing fast with this hardware. And mine has no flaws cosmetically either. It also runs cooler then any pho e I have owned in the past 7 or 8 years ( mostly sammy) If I swap it for the HTC ( and I probably will) it will be purely based on development alone. I'm sure the HTC is a quality phone but so is this and my wife's G5.
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Last I checked there are no full HTC 10 reviews, only glorified hands on using beta devices. When the G5 was being judged off the beta phones, everyone was defending it asking to wait for the official device. We owe the same to HTC.
The only thing I'm comfortable judging is the design, and I'd give that to HTC. The G5 is fairly unattractive. They ruined whatever design they had when they removed their back buttons.
Either way, I'm getting an HTC 10. LG lost a lot of my support with the G4 bootlooping fiasco and the G5 just seems like a gimmick/half baked modular device. Not to mention all the QC issues that have popped up.
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Regardless of the modules being somewhat gimmicky. The G5 on its own is a really good device. One thing that's not a gimmick is the wide angle camera lens. Plus the fact that it kept the IR blaster is pretty great. As we know, deciding on a phone has to do with the features that matter to us personally. I wouldn't let the modules sway your decision all that much. They are kind of just an added bonus.
For full disclosure I have had the HTC M7 and M8 and currently on the LG G4. I have also just ordered the HTC 10.
That being said, I think both the LG G4 and HTC 10 are great proposition's in their own right. The camera on the G4 was fantastic and the camera proposition has only improved in the G5. My concern is whether the duel photo set up is easily transportable to other phones / computers. I know Zoe's don't work well off a HTC phone for example.
The removable battery in the LG phones is also a big bonus for two reasons. Long term battery degeneration and swap out for full. Unless there are offers to get the second battery then this is a hidden second cost that I'm not seeing people factor in to the cost of the phone?
The HTC 10 design is something I like. This is subjective so won't go into too much detail there. I do find it curious that the M8 to M9 got slated for lack of innovation in design but the s6 and edge to S7 and edge has not even come up??
Build quality is something that I'm seeing as a potential issue with the G5, particularly with the module on the bottom not matching up to the main body of the device. I think HTC wins this battle against basically any other Android OEM.
The modules seem pretty darn expensive, not available (or available everywhere) and concerns that they may not work on future phones? Again these seem like additional costs to get the phone you might want (better for photos or for music). I'm hearing early news that the B&O play music module is better than the HTC 10 in certain scenarios but I don't like how much I will have to pay extra for it.
The bootloader unlocking and dev support for me can not be shouted about enough. Especially after the experience I have had on the G4. A fraction of the development that we had on the M8 and even the M9 which didn't get as many devs move to.. Given that this is XDA and attracts a certain type of Android user, I figure that to be massively important to most people in this community.
I do commend LG for going down a different route with the modularity, its exactly what we need in the Android ecosystem to give users truely different options. I feel like the G6 (if they continue to refine this approach) will have the build concerns sorted and deliver a great phone. Only thing LG need to work on is allowing bootloader unlocks (even if that means a voided warranty).
i was all for the htc 10 until i saw that EE in the UK are selling the LG G5 for £399 on pay as you go. Just got an unlock code from EE for £8.99 put the voda sim in it and happy as Larry.
I dropped my s7 edge whch i like and a better all round phone tbh (not much in it) and the insurance gave me a cash settlement of £639! Ive basically made £239 profit!
Cant believe EE are selling this phone for £409 (have to buy a £10 top up). Thats ludicrous !!!!!
No removable battery, no care. Seriously though, I am a battery swapper so if a phone doesn't have one I can swap out I'm not really interested.
Hello all, I'm currently on the s7 edge and I've had it with this locked bootloader. This phone feels like an iPhone to me. You can't do anything with it but use it. The edge of the screen is troublesome when using the phone without a case.
Basically I want to know if the v10 is still worth getting? Or should I wait for something else? I'm on T-mobile.
I love huge screens(which is another issue I have with this phone)
Don't care for camera
Don't care about gaming speed. That's what my DS and other handhelds are for.
Don't care about battery life if it's replaceable.
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Hello all, I'm currently on the s7 edge and I've had it with this locked bootloader. This phone feels like an iPhone to me. You can't do anything with it but use it. The edge of the screen is troublesome when using the phone without a case.
Basically I want to know if the v10 is still worth getting? Or should I wait for something else? I'm on T-mobile.
I love huge screens(which is another issue I have with this phone)
Don't care for camera
Don't care about gaming speed. That's what my DS and other handhelds are for.
Don't care about battery life if it's replaceable.
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It's a great phone and is now easily rootable on both Lollipop or Marshmallow (depending on which it ships with). Custom TWRP recovery exists and that's helpful when flashing updates. There's a very solid stock ROM with various debloat, dedeox, etc variations to try from. Also a couple non stock ROMs like CM13 and Resurrection Remix that are WIP that are pretty close (working camera being the big gating item).
On the con side it's not the latest and greatest and the G5 of HTC 10 has better performance (at least in tests like Antutu). Also i wish there were more devs actively working on this phone....seems like its really only a couple folks and if they get bored and move on...
Anyway, that's my two cents. Hope it helps. Come join the fun.
A great device, had mine for less than two months now and for the current price it is hard to beat
This beat out the nexus 6p for me due to the removable battery and expandable storage
The second screen is a bit gimicky still, I can't find a reason to use it much other than for always on notifications
The two front facing cameras... well the could have stuck with just the wide angle and I would be happy. But rear shooter is still hard to beat by anything
Build quality is solid, screen is great, battery ain't so good but the fastest charger to date can't beat a battery swap
Other forums may have more development but this one is moving along nicely and with the smaller size feels closer (my big name phones always had way too many people to keep track)
I plan on holding on to it for two years, can't see a good reason not to.
Hope to see you around the forum!
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Yeah, what these guys said. I just got my V10 this month so only a couple weeks with it but I'm quite happy. Has all the features I require: swappable battery, SD card support, good camera with OIS, and fingerprint support. I love big screens and this certainly has it plus the second screen I find moderately useful though not a requirement. It's also built like a tank which is nice (but heavy). I don't see anything in the market that competes with the V10 if you have the same requirements as I do. I think the only thing that might get me jealous in 2016 is a V11. This one will likely last me several years, I think.
Hi, I just ordered the LG G5, since there are so much threads I wanna ask if some kind person would refer me what I need to know?
- What's the best ROM atm?
- Any good custom Kernel or should i stay at stock?
- How's Camera quality and other hardware settings on Cyanogenmod?
- Which root/TWRP tutorial is best?
- Any other things I need to know?
Thank you very much
Greetings
> what need to know?
THAT YOURE F U C K E D
but otherwise, its a great phone with a superior camera and speed.
But if youre into customizing your phone, then.. haha.... ha...wow.. you are into a treat! because theres only two models that have been rooted and unlocked, if your international is the H850 one, then youre in a little bit of luck as it is one of the models you can only unlock it's bootloader.
But yet the development for the G5 lacks a lot in the forums, we dont even have an official CyanogenMod but an unofficial one.
Since the lack in bootloader unlocking support and huge range of different models, most of the devs just moved on onto the next phones, like the v20.
You'd expect to enjoy the open source in your beloved android device just to end up being as close as to an IOS user.
Maybe one day there will be a miracle and LG bothers doing a life saving favor and unlock all of the phones and bring in all of the developers.
But everybody doubt it.
Dont expect the build quality be any nice, it has a tight hardware, but assure that you def will be suffering from display defects and additionally to it you might also suffer from the common gps defect.
If you ordered and yet havent received it, consider canceling the order and rewarding yourself with a v20, but sure as hell you might just miss the battery swag feature, I personally LOVE IT
+1 for V20. I have both phones. I like the G5 but it does have 2 big issues: Image retention and GPS. Personally my G5 is H850 European model so I did root the phone. I opened it twice to fix the GPS. Easy fix, but why get yourself into that crap. I live the V20. Good build quality, great screen, strong GPS, very good camera (although I do prefer 16:9 radio like on the G5). Anyway, cancel, get V20. If too expensive just get a Oneplus 3T.
Pretty harsh comments here, taking into account that not every unit has issues.
I have had two H850's, no problems with the screen or GPS. You are not guaranteed to face problems. Although, I don't play with the modules, have not even deattached the bottom once I think. Some people think GPS issues are related to that - moving the battery forces some tiny pins to wrong position I dont know.
There are plenty of Cyanogenmod based roms here, and sure, its not offical, but from what I understood its very stable, and only missing NFC and tethering, which also is the reason its not given the status official.
I dont have owned V20 or 3t. I considered 3t, but the camera was meh and the price was pretty much the same in my country. I chose another G5 over 3t. The first one I dropped really bad.
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Pretty harsh comments here, taking into account that not every unit has issues.
I have had two H850's, no problems with the screen or GPS. You are not guaranteed to face problems. Although, I don't play with the modules, have not even deattached the bottom once I think. Some people think GPS issues are related to that - moving the battery forces some tiny pins to wrong position I dont know.
There are plenty of Cyanogenmod based roms here, and sure, its not offical, but from what I understood its very stable, and only missing NFC and tethering, which also is the reason its not given the status official.
I dont have owned V20 or 3t. I considered 3t, but the camera was meh and the price was pretty much the same in my country. I chose another G5 over 3t. The first one I dropped really bad.
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Honestly, the stock ROM is pretty good now. Both MM and N. I jist don't see the need for CyanogenMod with the G5. Also, LG's UI makes much more sense IMO. I agree that getting a G5 does not guarantee GPS or screen issues..but I see that the two issues are repeated in posts endlessly on forums (in my language and even in XDA). Im surprised that a comapny like Xiaomi sells phone for 150$ with better looking screen than LG. I mean.. common..LG, you make screen! How could you f it up ? G4,V10 and G5 all suffer from image retention. The GPS issue.. well.. that's just bad design. Mine was fine for 7 months and then it started acting up. I still like the phone, but its hard for me to recommend it for casual users.
Also, I will never buy a phone with curved screen again. I miss having good screen protectors.
So we don't have custom Kernels with Color Control for G5 atm?
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So we don't have custom Kernels with Color Control for G5 atm?
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I am sorry :crying:
Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
totalnoob34 said:
Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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The price and specs are great. The rom/root community is okay size. Build quality is trash. Don't buy this phone. With a little more money you could buy the One Plus 3T or One Plus 5. Better specs, build quality, rom/root, etc.
My next phone is Note 8 or One plus 3T or 5. I am not trying to bash phone. Just giving you an honest opinion. Look through the threads you will see tons of people with GPS, Backlight Bleed, bootloop issues, etc. I love LG, but will be my last LG phone for a long time.
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I'm looking to get the H850 for my mom since it is only $300CAD if I get my friend to bring it back from Hong Kong. Can't find any another phone in that price range that would be better than the LG G5 H850...
Hardware and price are amazing, especially the model RS988 that covers the most weirdest bands that are available in areas like Canada. Unfortunately, the root/bootloader on the rest of models are bringing tons of problems, if its rootable/unlockable at all. Custom firmware choice is very poor, and they are raw even after 1 year of release. What it means is that you basically can't use NFC on most of custom roms (if not all). The stock firmware on the other hand is very well made and stable. I'm using it with Magisk without issues. So far the only problem is stock kernel doesn't seem to be energy efficient, so battery flies away in a day or two of use. However, battery is replaceable, what is offered in not that many flagship phones nowadays.
I can't agree about bad quality of build. I would say its very good comparing to what else you can meet nowadays.
Other than that, it's one of the best phones available for 250$ on B&H (Titan) if not the only good one.
Yeah not sure about other countries, but in Canada it's hard to beat the LG G5. OnePlus 3T/5 are $600/$650CAD+tax respectively and the G5 can be found for $330-370 all in. Even 2016 mid-range phones like the Axon 7 and Honor 8 are $400-$500+tax.
Build quality isn't up to par with other flagships, but it's not terrible IMO. At least it's better than most mid-range phones.
It is a lottery phone.
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It is a lottery phone.
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I would have to agree with this statement.
Build quality is pretty bad guys sorry. I've had plenty of low/Mid/High end of phones. I've never seen this many issues as this one. When I see GPS and backlight bleed threads filled with countless complaints. Yeah that's bad build quality.
Damiloveu statement pretty much sums it up right it's a lottery phone. 50/50 hit or miss, be for warned potential new g5 buyers. GREAT phone if no issues. And if it does have problems many headaches await you.
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Hardware and price are amazing, especially the model RS988 that covers the most weirdest bands that are available in areas like Canada. Unfortunately, the root/bootloader on the rest of models are bringing tons of problems, if its rootable/unlockable at all. Custom firmware choice is very poor, and they are raw even after 1 year of release. What it means is that you basically can't use NFC on most of custom roms (if not all). The stock firmware on the other hand is very well made and stable. I'm using it with Magisk without issues. So far the only problem is stock kernel doesn't seem to be energy efficient, so battery flies away in a day or two of use. However, battery is replaceable, what is offered in not that many flagship phones nowadays.
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I would install Fulmics on the LG G5 if I can get it for my mom, so the RS988 is out of the question for me. I just cannot buy phones if I cannot install custom ROMs on it. I hate being at the mercy of manufacturers for software updates.
I'm so confused as to why manufacturers cannot just sell one or two variant of the same phone. Making dozens of variants seems so stupid.
coming from P9.
Maybe my most complain bout this device is the GPS as i always use gps for ingress, second is battery and the rest is the design and build quality though I dont have the screen retentention issues yet.
Thanks a lot, everybody. I think I'll get this phone, it features literally *every* feature I need on a device.
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coming from P9.
Maybe my most complain bout this device is the GPS as i always use gps for ingress, second is battery and the rest is the design and build quality though I dont have the screen retentention issues yet.
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I got a used AT&T H820 and it had the GPS issue, especially worse when cloudy and rainy. However, I returned the AT&T one and got an unlocked RS988 and I couldn't be happier with my purchase.
totalnoob34 said:
Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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If you need a hot swappable battery, the G5 is great.
If you game a lot, and want the ability to do so without remaining plugged in and burning up your phone, then the G5 is perfect for you.
As far as performance, no issues whatsoever.
Battery life is average, but with the ability to swap out new batteries and charge dead ones outside the phone in a charging port, you honestly don't have battery downtime. It's just always up.
That's the biggest advantage of this phone.
If you're looking for a better deal, you don't need unlimited battery life, or you're looking for a rich featureset, I would look elsewhere.
The gps is absolute wank and I don't have the time or inclination to do a hardware fix. I did a quick comparison with my friend who owns an OP3 indoors; his had gps lock with 15 seconds but mine was still searching after several minutes. In fact, I have almost missed turnings when driving a few times because of this POS. I never replace my phone until it has had 18 months usage but for the G5, I will make an exception.
I have LG G5 since April 2016 after my Note 3 : no root or anything, LG updates regulary.
I never have problems with it.
-No bootloop, no GPS bugs, a better reception with the same carrier...
-Camera is really good, especially the large wide-angle.
-Battery life: a day with a little use (waze to go work -one hour/day) wifi on, "always on display" always activate, some internet at evening : Facebook, Twitter, insta, mails...
-IR for soundbar, tv is really good !!
But no SPen ? So I will get the Note 8, really great for work, with the camera options easier than LG suit.
And finally, i prefer Samsung environment, even if G5 is really a good phone.
Envoyé de mon LG-H850 en utilisant Tapatalk
It's not worth the broken GPS sensors which are a known hardware defect. They'll fix it for you, but it's never the root of the problem so it will come back. I've sent mine in 3 times, GPS works for a couple days, then ceases to work again. Terrible quality control, by far the worst phone I've owned. My Galaxy S4 was better.
totalnoob34 said:
Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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well, looks like i'm not the only one who migrate from Galaxy Note 3. let me tell you my short little story
I upgraded since my Note 3 were exynos version which didnt support 4g band. i was looking for cheap second hand devices with LTE support :laugh: ( dont judge me, bussines is low here in indonesia i cant afford phone more than 250$ - on indonesia currency and prices of course)
so i search all available markets, online and offline. some guys recomended 3 phone. LG G5 h860, xperia z5, and HTC m9 ( all cost about 200-250$ here, second handed) so i spent about 3 days on google comparing all 3 phone. i kick z5 out from my list since i had a bad experience with sony devices ( heat issue, poor audio quality, you name it) so it just m9 or g5. m9 is a good phone, its the cheapest one, had official support for lineage and SlimOS. solid built, and dual speaker. the drawback were its photo quality, its much worse than my note 3 even with 20mp camera. but at that time i cant find g5, the only available one were g5 SE version which is downgrade one ( 3gb ram and qualcom 625) and it cost about 299$!! hell no, so i pick the m9. but as i said before, i'm not really satisfied. the main advantages comparing my old note were: better sound, better network 4g, better official OS ( Lollipop vs nougat) and custom, and fast charging. but thats the only option i got that time. after several months some guys here sold his g5 h860 on low prices, i dont need to think twice so today my g5 finally arrived. still looks good for a second hand devices, the ony issue were the screen ghosting when the devices getting hot. but it would dissapear after some minutes, i can live with that. BUT, comparing to my m9 the battery drains faster, no root option, no custom recovery or rom. so for answering your question, IF i moved from note 3 directly to G5 i would be really happy as it has more advantages. but since i got my hand on m9 first i still feel little dissapointed . i cant stop comaring 3 of them. note 3 has bigger display and spen support, m9 has the best custom rom suppot and great battery, while g5 has the most awesome camera and screen resolution :cyclops: .
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well, looks like i'm not the only one who migrate from Galaxy Note 3. let me tell you my short little story
I upgraded since my Note 3 were exynos version which didnt support 4g band. i was looking for cheap second hand devices with LTE support :laugh: ( dont judge me, bussines is low here in indonesia i cant afford phone more than 250$ - on indonesia currency and prices of course)
so i search all available markets, online and offline. some guys recomended 3 phone. LG G5 h860, xperia z5, and HTC m9 ( all cost about 200-250$ here, second handed) so i spent about 3 days on google comparing all 3 phone. i kick z5 out from my list since i had a bad experience with sony devices ( heat issue, poor audio quality, you name it) so it just m9 or g5. m9 is a good phone, its the cheapest one, had official support for lineage and SlimOS. solid built, and dual speaker. the drawback were its photo quality, its much worse than my note 3 even with 20mp camera. but at that time i cant find g5, the only available one were g5 SE version which is downgrade one ( 3gb ram and qualcom 625) and it cost about 299$!! hell no, so i pick the m9. but as i said before, i'm not really satisfied. the main advantages comparing my old note were: better sound, better network 4g, better official OS ( Lollipop vs nougat) and custom, and fast charging. but thats the only option i got that time. after several months some guys here sold his g5 h860 on low prices, i dont need to think twice so today my g5 finally arrived. still looks good for a second hand devices, the ony issue were the screen ghosting when the devices getting hot. but it would dissapear after some minutes, i can live with that. BUT, comparing to my m9 the battery drains faster, no root option, no custom recovery or rom. so for answering your question, IF i moved from note 3 directly to G5 i would be really happy as it has more advantages. but since i got my hand on m9 first i still feel little dissapointed . i cant stop comaring 3 of them. note 3 has bigger display and spen support, m9 has the best custom rom suppot and great battery, while g5 has the most awesome camera and screen resolution :cyclops: .
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Ok, first off, thanks a lot for the detailed feedback. I actually appreciate it when people put a little effort in helping others online.
I ultimately settled for a G5, since a replaceable battery is more important to me than a bigger one, and also because I could really use those extra 0.3" on the screen. Moreover, you were unlucky in getting an h860 variant, because the european h850 has some decent support over here.
Lastly, I am not getting another HTC device again, I had an HTC Desire S. Let me tell you something about that phone: you could *not* remove the battery with the device on, risking a total brick. Yup, you heard me right. A flimsy plastic clip was all that kept your precious phone from mayhem and destruction. The best part is that it was a hardware defect, obviously ineligible for warranty replacement, and I don't recall HTC ever acknowledging the issue, let alone provide the user with some kind of compensation. Also, HTC always was a pain in the ass to customize, and the HTCdev program is a joke.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the feedback man. Have a good one
totalnoob34 said:
Ok, first off, thanks a lot for the detailed feedback. I actually appreciate it when people put a little effort in helping others online.
I ultimately settled for a G5, since a replaceable battery is more important to me than a bigger one, and also because I could really use those extra 0.3" on the screen. Moreover, you were unlucky in getting an h860 variant, because the european h850 has some decent support over here.
Lastly, I am not getting another HTC device again, I had an HTC Desire S. Let me tell you something about that phone: you could *not* remove the battery with the device on, risking a total brick. Yup, you heard me right. A flimsy plastic clip was all that kept your precious phone from mayhem and destruction. The best part is that it was a hardware defect, obviously ineligible for warranty replacement, and I don't recall HTC ever acknowledging the issue, let alone provide the user with some kind of compensation. Also, HTC always was a pain in the ass to customize, and the HTCdev program is a joke.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the feedback man. Have a good one
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yeep, my biggest regret were i didnt read much about lg g5, infact i read too many about it so i skip the most important things. from what i gather around the web, g5 has 2 version. G5 and g5 SE. the g5 has snap820, 4gb ram and single sim, while g5 SE had snap 625, 3GB ram and dualsim. i use 2 simcard one for main use and another for data connection. and h860 has both advantages from 2 g5 version, snap 820/4gb ram and Dualsim support. i didnt bother to check on XDA for root method as i though it just the same as samsung or HTC, even with many varian usually all of them has the same exploit. i never though i would be so wrong on my life . and for the HTC part, well what can i say, here in indonesia we didnt have official HTC service centre so if we had a malfunction devices we just need to fix it on our own . same goes to LG G5 since the only one that they sold here were g5 SE, some friend of mine already bought g5 from singapore last year and when his screen broke he sent it to LG centre but they refuse it, they said the only accept g5 SE. so i'm totally aware when i bought those devices, i cant rely on warranty or official services. and its not the first time, usually lot of devices which sold here were downgraded version comparing to international one. like
note 3 on international version they had snap801 and lte support while official one the had stupid exynoss and 3g only. same goes with Note 5 snapdragon inter vs exynoss local, and also xiaomi devices, huawei, and many other brands which i dont remember anymore. thats why, many people here usually bought new/second hand devices from another country because they want to feel the real experience while also acknowledge they cant bring it to official service centre when it broke later.
Hell no.
My LG G4 is dying.
I need a Verizon based phone to work with the Verizon MVNO I contract air access from.
How does the MotoZ vzw version handle unlocked bootloader? Is it possible?
I'm real keen on custom rom usage, whats the best custom roms available for the moto Z?
Any cons I should be made aware of?
What type of sim card ? ie: nano....................
I am done with the Asian phone manufacturers, unfortunately I have had bad experience with HTC and now LG.
Paid flagship prices for crap, sorry to say. My most favored phone was a motorola flip phone, maybe I return to motorola.
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Motorola = Lenovo = Chinese [emoji6]
I've had the MotoZ after the LG G4. Only short time. Since one year on Galaxy S8 and happy. Maybe a LG V30 as alternative?
I cannot say anything about a Verizon phone since I have no clue if they "tainted" the Moto Z too, making it different from global variants.
As for simply being worth it:
If you are paying less than 450$, it's definitely worth it.
The phone is snappy, hysterically thin for a phone ( it's as thick as an iPhone when you put a bulky case on it, otherwise it's only 5.2mm thick ), has a good camera, a great display and you will love the UI if you're a fan of stock Android.
However, if you can pay more than 450$, consider something like a Oneplus 5.
Battery is AWFUL. The phone is mostly smooth but if you use it for prolonged periods, it heats up and then starts lagging due to throttling.
Camera is reasonable at most but the camera lens get scratched easily, so the image quality could degrade over time.
Mods are funny at some point but are extremely expensive and there are chaper alternatives that work on any device, not being necessary to have a Z phone to use them.
Fingerprint scanner works but it's not the fastest and misses sometimes, and it get's really annoying when you have to try 4 or 5 times to unlock it.
Motorola has abandoned this phone, which hasn't received a security update since December and god knows when it'll get Oreo, and even worse, god knows what sort of bugs Lenovo interns will give us when Oreo finally arrives.
Doesn't have a headphone jack.
My particular unit developed severe burn-in after only 7 months of usage, but every display is different, so your mileage may vary.
Phone is so thin that it's unconfortable to hold without a mod attatched or a case, which is a bummer because the phone is good looking without anything on it. Also slippery as hell.
There are not many developers for the Moto Z, so there isn't many custom roms available compared to Samsung or even Sony. There are some unofficial builds from big projects like Lineage but there are some bugs here and there.
So, take it with a grain of salt because this is my experience, but beware because I'm not the only one reporting those issues. Just check out Lenovo forums and see how many battery drain topics are there, which got even worse after the 7.1.1 update.
Forget those awesome flip phones Motorola once built, because that company is dead. Motorola is just a brand name now, everything is Lenovo. When you boot the Moto Z there is a big ass Lenovo logo so you don't forget it. If I were you, I would go for the OnePlus 5 . Your experience may be worse with Motorola.
The phone uses nano sim though.
Moto Z= bored device + screen burn + ugly battery life
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One plus is an Asian brand too xD
Z2 Play or bust
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Don't. Battery life is awful, and Motorola does not support this device any more.
Mine got broken (bluetooth died), I sent it to Motorola for repair three months ago, and they refuse to fix or refund it, despite still being under warranty.
I see a lot of salty people here.
I've had my Moto Z since October 2017. I upgraded from Nexus 5x, which got bootloop. Is it worth it?
That depends on the price. I've got mine for 350$ and I'm pretty satisfied. The battery is similar to the one I've had in 5x (needs a recharge at the end of the day). However, with Incipio power pack it lasts a full day of heavy use.
No burn-ins whatsoever.
It was lagging a little bit at the beginning, but now its really snappy, miles better than my crap Nexus. I've played Vice City quite a lot and no major throttling issues happened to me (maybe some fps drops once a while, but it's not something drastic).
Motorola still supports this phone. Fast updates are long gone from the Google days, but they're still pretty average.
I really like this phone, but if I were you I would wait a little bit more for the Nokia 7 Plus. 2018 version looks amazing.
And stay away from any LG. They can't fix bootloop problems since G4. G6 and V30 are too young to judge if they're fine. They still may bootloop in the near future.
I forgot to add: Fingerprint sucks. Nexus 5x was better in that term.