Considering buying one of these. They're fairly cheap second hand in perfect condition. And hardware seems decent enough. Right now i have a z3c which i've like a lot. But i thought i'd try just a slightly bigger phone. 4.8" would be perfect, but that's not really an option. But i'm concerned about development, if this phone is going to have a decent user base for development.
I do see that there's already a kernel available so you can root and all that without loosing drm features. So that's cool.
Same question here - how are you owners feeling after having it for a year? Would you keep it or go with something like a Nexus 5X or similar?
I have two months with my Xperia X already, and no regrets. Phone is performing really good, I only wish the fingerprint scanner was more accurate or in a different position, but besides that I'm really happy with the phone. Also, we're getting Android Nougat in november, that's gonna be a big improvement to what's good already.
Google Pixel phone is a total disappointment for me in terms of price, and I don't see other cool yet cheap options, so I won't switch to another phone this year. Also, Xperia XZ is not precisely my taste, so I think I'll stick with my X until Sony releases new models, like april or may of 2017 or second generation, probably in september.
I only wish cyanogenmod could be developed for the Xperia X. The stock ROM is great but I also like Cyanogenmod ROMs a lot.
Feanux said:
Same question here - how are you owners feeling after having it for a year? Would you keep it or go with something like a Nexus 5X or similar?
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This phone has just been out for 5 months ._.
This phone does not deliver top-notch raw performance, but what it brings is a very enjoyable experience. Regular apps load in a flash (even more responsive than a Death Note 7), animations are fast and smooth at the same time. Thumbs up to Sony for having made such a fast MM rom.
Generally i will not change phones in less than 3 years. However if there is something that forces me to change my phone, i will still go for an XZ or something similar.
I will review this phone like the way i reviewed Shadow Warrior 2: "It's a good one, but buy it on a sale".
I was waiting for new 5" Nexus, but it's way overpriced, like X performance and XZ. I don't care about waterproofing, as any phone looses it sooner or later anyway. I'm glad that Sony put back the usb hole to normal place and it's still usb micro - no need to change all my cables. Battery is good and everything works well. Also waiting for Cyanogenmod, as even X have less bloatware, than Xperia series had before, it's still too much for me. The fingerprint location is perfect, I can't imagine how I should use the phone otherwise (a lot phones have power button in one and fingerprint in a second place).
I'll add to what others have said above.
Have had the phone for two months and love it as well. I tend to use my phones mostly for social media (fb, snapchat, instagram, etc.), productivity (google drive, google keep, etc.) and music (podcasts and deezer/spotify). The battery lasts me one and a half day on regular use, which is great. It's fast responsive and the interface is the closest I can get to vanilla android. I think that it really delivers for the price.
Other than that: the phone has a really nice look (I really like the glass face), the speakers are nice, and the camera performs well (although I'm disappointed it doesn't shoot RAW).
What I'm hoping for is that the dev community for it gets bigger or that CM releases a rom for it (was running CM on my previous phone - a GS3). But at least we're getting Nougat very soon, so I'm hopeful.
can anyone see any light through their finger print sensor cuz i see a little white glance of display light through the lock key
Used to be the Z3c user.
If you're pleased with Z3c, you will be happy using X. The X will delivers:
-Much faster performance
-Much faster and better camera
-Better build quality (I prefer metal back than glass black)
-Better design - thinner and not too many holes, flaps, and ports on the body
-Slightly worse battery life (It's really hard to match the Z3c in longevity)
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I have two months with my Xperia X already, and no regrets. Phone is performing really good, I only wish the fingerprint scanner was more accurate or in a different position, but besides that I'm really happy with the phone. Also, we're getting Android Nougat in november, that's gonna be a big improvement to what's good already.
Google Pixel phone is a total disappointment for me in terms of price, and I don't see other cool yet cheap options, so I won't switch to another phone this year. Also, Xperia XZ is not precisely my taste, so I think I'll stick with my X until Sony releases new models, like april or may of 2017 or second generation, probably in september.
I only wish cyanogenmod could be developed for the Xperia X. The stock ROM is great but I also like Cyanogenmod ROMs a lot.
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Can anyone tell me about the fingerprint sensor being used in the US? I'm about to purchase the Xperia X tonight and I simply don't know whether to buy the international model here in the US or by the US model and flash the phone to enable the fingerprint sensor. Any help would be so greatly appreciated. By the way how do you all like the X? I was about to but the X Performance but I watched YouTube videos between the two and speed tests and the X came out on top and had better battery life. Am I doing the right thing by buying the X over the X performance? Thanks again.
The X Performance has a better camera and a faster processor.
The hardware for the XX is the same, except for the single sim / dual sim models. If you want fingerprint unlock you must flash an unbranded rom for e.g. the UK or Germany with Flashtool.
M1chiel said:
The X Performance has a better camera and a faster processor.
The hardware for the XX is the same, except for the single sim / dual sim models. If you want fingerprint unlock you must flash an unbranded rom for e.g. the UK or Germany with Flashtool.
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Do you mind posting a link to where I can find that flsdhtool for the fingerprint sensor? So I definitely need to buy the US version and not the international version? Thanks for your help!
More about Flashtool here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920746
It includes a module called XperiFirm that allows you to flash many different firmwares.
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Hi!
I have currently nexus 7 (2012) tablet and I've been thinking of updating it with 10" tablet. One of the greatest tablets on paper is xperia z2 tablet but there are couple things that make me think about some other device (nexus 9 or some samsung tablets). That is custom software support.. I've been using cm for a long time on my devices and luckly z2 has official cm12 support. My concern is however how stable is the device tree of z2 and recovery support seems to be everything else but good. No TWRP, not even unofficial as far as I can see. Otherwise sony's tablet seems to be hardwarewise device and that's why I'm seriusly thinking of buying one. If someone could recommend/not recommend this tablet to me or give me any other information about the device I'd appreciate it a lot!
Regards,
rockknee
I have both Nexus 7's a Nexus 9 and a tablet Z2.
Paid about the same for N9 and tab Z2, about $400 new.
N9 is heavy and thick compared to Z2 tab, but may have more CPU power. I don't use them much except for app testing and light reading.
I much prefer the Z2 tab to the N9 due to lighter, thinner and FM radio.
Tab Z2 (and Sony in general) development is low.
But N9 is a relatively unpopular Nexus too...
As long as you're aware you're getting last generation cpu/graphics (which BTW snapdragon 801 is still plenty fast), its still a great tablet.
- Thin and light
- Great build
- Snappy
- Relatively clean / close-to-stock software build, the tweaks actually add value/functionality and improve on stock (quick settings toggles, stamina mode, mount windows shares etc.)
- SD card
- No complaints on the screen whatsoever. Sure its 'only' 1080p but I can't see the pixels so I don't care
- Software buttons means its actually usable when rotated in whatever orientation you use. I know some samsung owners who really regret their purchases because they like to use their tablets one way, and samsung has hard buttons the other way
As long as the price reflects the fact it came out a year ago, its still a good choice.
Yeah dev is dead but
- there's nothing wrong with stock at all. I've been flashing since Nexus One and I've had zero inclination to custom this.
- we're definitely getting official lollipop shortly
- BL unlock is officially available if you want CWM/TWRP anyway. (look harder in the dev forums... defo CWM/TWRP available)
so nothing to see here IMO
mikereidis said:
I have both Nexus 7's a Nexus 9 and a tablet Z2.
Paid about the same for N9 and tab Z2, about $400 new.
N9 is heavy and thick compared to Z2 tab, but may have more CPU power. I don't use them much except for app testing and light reading.
I much prefer the Z2 tab to the N9 due to lighter, thinner and FM radio.
Tab Z2 (and Sony in general) development is low.
But N9 is a relatively unpopular Nexus too...
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As long as you're aware you're getting last generation cpu/graphics (which BTW snapdragon 801 is still plenty fast), its still a great tablet.
- Thin and light
- Great build
- Snappy
- Relatively clean / close-to-stock software build, the tweaks actually add value/functionality and improve on stock (quick settings toggles, stamina mode, mount windows shares etc.)
- SD card
- No complaints on the screen whatsoever. Sure its 'only' 1080p but I can't see the pixels so I don't care
- Software buttons means its actually usable when rotated in whatever orientation you use. I know some samsung owners who really regret their purchases because they like to use their tablets one way, and samsung has hard buttons the other way
As long as the price reflects the fact it came out a year ago, its still a good choice.
Yeah dev is dead but
- there's nothing wrong with stock at all. I've been flashing since Nexus One and I've had zero inclination to custom this.
- we're definitely getting official lollipop shortly
- BL unlock is officially available if you want CWM/TWRP anyway. (look harder in the dev forums... defo CWM/TWRP available)
so nothing to see here IMO
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Thanks for these opinions and experiences guys! I really feel like xperia z2 might be better device for me due to it's larger screen compared to nexus 9 and the ratio is also much better for watching movies and so on. Now that I've been testing the device on couple stores I've noticed that the screen responsiveness is far from best. Could be also just problem on some z2 tablets and caused by people "giving hard time" for these test models at the stores.. Have you noticed touchscreen problems? I mean one device was absolutely ****ed up on one of the stores I visited, even scrolling thru homescreens was very painful and didn't leave very good impression at all.
Regards,
rockknee
none on mine, doesn't miss a beat.
There were people here talking re: bad touchscreen when it was first released, but I believe it got ironed out with later firmware / later batches
Running it with CM12 and i love my Z2 Castor Windy.
Z2 is now on the way! I found nice sale from one Finnish store, approximately 394$ price and 32gb model. I think it was a great deal, can't wait to get my hands on it! Thanks guys!
Hello,
I bought my Z5 Compact in december 2015 to replace my broken Z3C and I quickly realized numberous flaws that I will list here. But first, I'm gonna talk about the good things.
It's a really well build phone. Nothing to say there, it's nearly perfect and way better than the Z3C which was already pretty good (but way too fragile). The design is beautiful, probably one of the nicest in stores.
The camera autofocus is also very good and the depth of field is nice. It must be a very good sensor.
Some apps are really well done, like the launcher, Music, Gallery or TrackID.
Now let's talk about the bad things.
1) The camera. The app is really slow to launch, it's also slow to take a picture, and it's not everytime the same amount of time. Sometimes it takes 2 seconds, sometimes 5 seconds, you can't trust it.
Most of the pictures are very blurry on the sides and it's just not on par with other flagships. It's also very noisy, incredibly bad for something that's supposed to be as good as the Galaxy S6 camera. Even my Moto E takes better pictures sometimes.
Also, after i take 2-3 pictures it makes the phone lag for a few seconds which is really frustrating when you paid $500 for this thing.
2) The performance. Most of the time it's pretty acceptable, but if I compare it with the Z3C it's just not as smooth and responsive. It's faster, but not as smooth.
There are sometimes little lags, little latencies, it's still OK but not as good and I would say it should be way better if I look at the specs.
Sometimes, usually when I opened snapchat or the camera, it lags like hell to the point where it's unusable. And it happens really often, not even always when the phone is hot so this is not a S810 issue.
3) The Marshmallow update. I really liked what they did with the Marshmallow beta on the Z3C so I was really excited to see what they would do on the Z5C. And I was again disappointed. Yeah, it fixed most of the performance issues, but it's still really not that good, and I hate the way they updated some apps.
Why the hell is the notification bar BLACK in the settings, in messages and in some other apps ? It's not Android 4.3 anymore, they really need to improve their UI.
4) The custom rom support. There is only one custom ROM and it still has a lot of issues, it's by far the worst phone I've ever had for that.
5) The battery life. It's not terrible, but it's really not that good, especially compared to the Z3C I expected way better results.
6) The way Sony handles the Z5 series. Marshmallow came so late, when the Z3 already had an incredibly good "beta" version for like 6 months. And now I learn that the Android N beta is available on the Z3 ?? What the hell, we also paid our phones ! I feel like they are giving up on this phone and they just say "f*ck you" to the stupid people who've had the weird idea to buy that thing.
I asked them on twitter and they said "it's for developpers" with a gif of a woman rolling her eyes. Well this is completely stupid, because first, I could be a dev, and second, it's not for devs at all, it's for people who want to try it and give feedback.
So you have my opinion, after all it's not the worst phone ever, most of it is really good but a lot of thing are bothering me.
I'm buying an iPhone SE next week after six years of Android and 16 Android Phones in these 6 years. So this must actually be pretty bad because I never felt the need to switch to iOS with any of the phones I owned, even the Moto E. It's also my use of a phone that's more adapted to iOS right now, but still this phone is one of the main reasons.
I hope my bad english didn't bother you and I hope this was somehow interesting to read.
Thank you
I agree...
Unfortunately I must agree with your opinion regarding Z5 Compact. Especially the part regarding the camera lags is very true. Also the AF system fails sometimes on the random basis.
On my Z5C I had already the camera broken (after two months of using the phone) and fixed via warranty claim together with the fingerprint sensor which was working when it liked to.
Now I can see that the phone has bent a little bit while carrying it in the pocket and this bending has led to the broken phone frame (in the fingerprint area where the frame has only two thin plastic straps around the sensor). The worst thing is that I can also see some dust inside the lens so it means that the whole body is not sealed any more probably due to that broken frame.
I have also some concerns regarding the Sony's software (Android 5.1.1.):
1) The gallery application is not customisable at all. For example you cannot change the sorting order or exclude / include some folders.
2) No call blacklist for automatic call rejection (this function is built in into my old Samsung S4 Mini)
3) Very limited customization of alarm schedules (automatic alarm offs etc., I can adjust something but not exactly what I want)
4) The calling screen is hard to distinguish from the phone number information screen. Sometimes I'm not sure if I'm actually calling somebody or just checking the contact info (there is only one small blinking symbol during the actual calling out).
5) No scheduled SMS option (again, this is present in my old Samsung S4 Mini)
6) Very week LED light (compared to S4 Mini)
7) The analog radio tuner is not sensitive enough for high quality stereo reception (compared to S4 Mini)
8) The built-in e-mail application (Microsfot Exchange client) has problems with displaying e-mails correctly => for example the title has big font and the e-mail body small tiny letters (again compared to S4 Mini e-mail app). It also does not show the contact pictures which are stored on the Microsoft Exchange server (=> pictures are visible in S4 Mini).
Overall I'm quite disappointed with that phone model. Luckily it's my business phone so I didn't have to pay for it.
I bought an iPhone SE and used it for about two weeks. I am back on my Z5C. I got tired of the restrictions in iOS that I take for granted in Android. I will keep the SE as a spare since no one else makes a good small phone.
I don't think you'll find many people here telling you that leaving the z5c is a bad decision lol but the iOS transition if you've never played with it will leave you far more frustrated. Simple tasks are cumbersome and customizability is slim. I have wanted the 5, 5s, 5c, 6, 6s, SE when they were all released but the iOS is a serious flaw. Android is faster in maneuvering through the OS and customizability is limitless so I've been settling for mid range phones for YEARS just to keep a one handed phone. I'd suggest maybe getting a iPod touch to play with to test the iOS waters before making the plunge.
gfarm said:
Unfortunately I must agree with your opinion regarding Z5 Compact. Especially the part regarding the camera lags is very true. Also the AF system fails sometimes on the random basis.
On my Z5C I had already the camera broken (after two months of using the phone) and fixed via warranty claim together with the fingerprint sensor which was working when it liked to.
Now I can see that the phone has bent a little bit while carrying it in the pocket and this bending has led to the broken phone frame (in the fingerprint area where the frame has only two thin plastic straps around the sensor). The worst thing is that I can also see some dust inside the lens so it means that the whole body is not sealed any more probably due to that broken frame.
I have also some concerns regarding the Sony's software (Android 5.1.1.):
1) The gallery application is not customisable at all. For example you cannot change the sorting order or exclude / include some folders.
2) No call blacklist for automatic call rejection (this function is built in into my old Samsung S4 Mini)
3) Very limited customization of alarm schedules (automatic alarm offs etc., I can adjust something but not exactly what I want)
4) The calling screen is hard to distinguish from the phone number information screen. Sometimes I'm not sure if I'm actually calling somebody or just checking the contact info (there is only one small blinking symbol during the actual calling out).
5) No scheduled SMS option (again, this is present in my old Samsung S4 Mini)
6) Very week LED light (compared to S4 Mini)
7) The analog radio tuner is not sensitive enough for high quality stereo reception (compared to S4 Mini)
8) The built-in e-mail application (Microsfot Exchange client) has problems with displaying e-mails correctly => for example the title has big font and the e-mail body small tiny letters (again compared to S4 Mini e-mail app). It also does not show the contact pictures which are stored on the Microsoft Exchange server (=> pictures are visible in S4 Mini).
Overall I'm quite disappointed with that phone model. Luckily it's my business phone so I didn't have to pay for it.
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Hm,
can be summed up with:
close to AOSP/stock-Android.
My decision to go with the Z5 was because it's more close to AOSP, well - guess what ?
I also got used to Samsung's "bloat" and customizability - so in certain parts is was a kind of shock to see to limitations of Sony's ROM,
but if you're getting the phone with the attitude of rooting and unlocking the bootloader anyway to install a custom ROM,
it's somewhat different
Not talking about you,
but it's kind of ridiculous:
people are complaining that Samsung's ROM is too bloated, too much features, overloaded,
then when they switch to a device with slim, minimal ROM - then complain, too
Seems like folks don't know what they really want after all
Solution:
Get a device which offers über-bloated ROM but also Option of AOSP,
then wait until the "perfect" ROM is out - or get your hands dirty and modify and optimize the ROM yourself :silly:
This is XDA after all
civicsr2cool said:
I don't think you'll find many people here telling you that leaving the z5c is a bad decision lol but the iOS transition if you've never played with it will leave you far more frustrated. Simple tasks are cumbersome and customizability is slim. I have wanted the 5, 5s, 5c, 6, 6s, SE when they were all released but the iOS is a serious flaw. Android is faster in maneuvering through the OS and customizability is limitless so I've been settling for mid range phones for YEARS just to keep a one handed phone. I'd suggest maybe getting a iPod touch to play with to test the iOS waters before making the plunge.
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Yeah I bought an iPod Touch 6 and used it for one week, now I have the SE and it's a real pleasure to use. I wouldn't have done that a year ago but now my use has changed and I don't really need android anymore. Actually there are really not so much that I miss from Android, it's really better for me (but of course it will depend on how you use your phone).
Otherwise the SE is faster, like REALLY faster, the camera is 100 times better and I prefer the form factor so I'm really happy for now :good:
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Yeah I bought an iPod Touch 6 and used it for one week, now I have the SE and it's a real pleasure to use. I wouldn't have done that a year ago but now my use has changed and I don't really need android anymore. Actually there are really not so much that I miss from Android, it's really better for me (but of course it will depend on how you use your phone).
Otherwise the SE is faster, like REALLY faster, the camera is 100 times better and I prefer the form factor so I'm really happy for now :good:
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That's good news! The amount of accessories available for it are pretty cool. You can even buy iPhone 6 mini conversion housings for it. 4" are a bit too small for me however, 4.3" seems to be the sweet spot I'm always looking for. I'm a heavy root user and change the themes on my phone weekly so I'm not leaving Android anytime soon lol
sorry to disagree with you in certain things... well i have had 5 Xperia Z5 (the regular one) and since i'm into buying and selling Xperia phones, the Z5 compact and the Z5 Premium was the most impressive Sony phones... talking more about the Z5C because the Z5P didn't have for a long time to talk about it much... Z5 compact which i'm owning right now is very smooth and never lagged for me, the camera is great, front and back... the camera shot delay not really as you described it, it not as faster as the big Z5 but it's good! remember it's 2GB while the big is 3GB... most of the time i use the manual mode, and even with the auto... pictures are sharp, so i think you need to have steady hands or tripod.....
to summarize all about Z5C, it's a compact flagship that you won't find it's specs or capabilities in any other Mini from the other competitors....
....i know it's a user preference, but i'd be very honest to you to tell you switching from Z5C to iPhone SE is the dumbest decision i've ever heard about knowing that that iphone SE is a redesigned/redefined iPhone 5 or 5S....
i'm not biasing z5c because as i said, i didn't like the Z5 as much as i love the Z5C in everything, even though the Z5 is a bit more powerful with that extra ram, but the build quality in certain parts of the phone, Z5C has it better.
and i couldn't keep the Z5P because of the high price, so the half of it's price got me a Z5C which is more than fair and convenient for me.
now i have 2 Z5 compacts (im selling one for my friend).... the first i bought for $196 because i need to fix it's micro sd card slot, also with no accessories.. and the other for $276 without accessories but as brand new with no issues, and im keeping for me. also i noticed in Marshmallow both devices has the sound quality improved and more louder compared to 5.1.1 and they both equal in both speakers, with a dB meter test app.
don't be annoyed with my comment, and again it's a user preference but i wanted to share my experience with Z5c... so yours or mine aren't the reference for the Z5C but it could help others to have decisions before buying any phone.
thank you.
Funny why you swapped to iphone but not a other android device that might service your needs. But shame to see that many only know 2 brands of phones.
Nidhal AKA the king said:
sorry to disagree with you in certain things... well i have had 5 Xperia Z5 (the regular one) and since i'm into buying and selling Xperia phones, the Z5 compact and the Z5 Premium was the most impressive Sony phones... talking more about the Z5C because the Z5P didn't have for a long time to talk about it much... Z5 compact which i'm owning right now is very smooth and never lagged for me, the camera is great, front and back... the camera shot delay not really as you described it, it not as faster as the big Z5 but it's good! remember it's 2GB while the big is 3GB... most of the time i use the manual mode, and even with the auto... pictures are sharp, so i think you need to have steady hands or tripod.....
to summarize all about Z5C, it's a compact flagship that you won't find it's specs or capabilities in any other Mini from the other competitors....
....i know it's a user preference, but i'd be very honest to you to tell you switching from Z5C to iPhone SE is the dumbest decision i've ever heard about knowing that that iphone SE is a redesigned/redefined iPhone 5 or 5S....
i'm not biasing z5c because as i said, i didn't like the Z5 as much as i love the Z5C in everything, even though the Z5 is a bit more powerful with that extra ram, but the build quality in certain parts of the phone, Z5C has it better.
and i couldn't keep the Z5P because of the high price, so the half of it's price got me a Z5C which is more than fair and convenient for me.
now i have 2 Z5 compacts (im selling one for my friend).... the first i bought for $196 because i need to fix it's micro sd card slot, also with no accessories.. and the other for $276 without accessories but as brand new with no issues, and im keeping for me. also i noticed in Marshmallow both devices has the sound quality improved and more louder compared to 5.1.1 and they both equal in both speakers, with a dB meter test app.
don't be annoyed with my comment, and again it's a user preference but i wanted to share my experience with Z5c... so yours or mine aren't the reference for the Z5C but it could help others to have decisions before buying any phone.
thank you.
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Well, let's agree to disagree. The Z5C is the best compact android phone (I still think that iPhone SE is better, but i can't forgo the versatility of android.)
What really disappoints me is that the older Z3 gets an Android N Developer Preview. I was like, what the heck! The older phone gets this privilege while the newer Z5 doesn't? It almost feels like Sony betrayed the Z5 users. But this is about the only Con of the Z5 though.
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I've had my Z5c for about a week. My current daily driver is a Moto X 2013. I'm really liking the the Z5c, but I have to admit I'm having trouble letting go of the X - its just a pleasure to hold and use. If Motorola followed Apple's lead with the SE and packed an updated package into the Moto X body, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
I'll reserve comment on the Z5c and post in a more appropriate thread once I've spent more time with it. I'm not rooted yet (still on the fence) but once I threw some Nova Prime at it, I began to really enjoy my journey.
@flolaff
I totally agree with you. Add to your list Broken Adaptive Brightness. I'm planning to change the Z5C as soon as there a new Nexus.
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Nidhal AKA the king said:
sorry to disagree with you in certain things... well i have had 5 Xperia Z5 (the regular one) and since i'm into buying and selling Xperia phones, the Z5 compact and the Z5 Premium was the most impressive Sony phones... talking more about the Z5C because the Z5P didn't have for a long time to talk about it much... Z5 compact which i'm owning right now is very smooth and never lagged for me, the camera is great, front and back... the camera shot delay not really as you described it, it not as faster as the big Z5 but it's good! remember it's 2GB while the big is 3GB... most of the time i use the manual mode, and even with the auto... pictures are sharp, so i think you need to have steady hands or tripod.....
to summarize all about Z5C, it's a compact flagship that you won't find it's specs or capabilities in any other Mini from the other competitors....
....i know it's a user preference, but i'd be very honest to you to tell you switching from Z5C to iPhone SE is the dumbest decision i've ever heard about knowing that that iphone SE is a redesigned/redefined iPhone 5 or 5S....
i'm not biasing z5c because as i said, i didn't like the Z5 as much as i love the Z5C in everything, even though the Z5 is a bit more powerful with that extra ram, but the build quality in certain parts of the phone, Z5C has it better.
and i couldn't keep the Z5P because of the high price, so the half of it's price got me a Z5C which is more than fair and convenient for me.
now i have 2 Z5 compacts (im selling one for my friend).... the first i bought for $196 because i need to fix it's micro sd card slot, also with no accessories.. and the other for $276 without accessories but as brand new with no issues, and im keeping for me. also i noticed in Marshmallow both devices has the sound quality improved and more louder compared to 5.1.1 and they both equal in both speakers, with a dB meter test app.
don't be annoyed with my comment, and again it's a user preference but i wanted to share my experience with Z5c... so yours or mine aren't the reference for the Z5C but it could help others to have decisions before buying any phone.
thank you.
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Okay, but I feel like I would've get a way better experience with a Galaxy S6, which just is way better in everything, or even a Nexus 5X or anything. Part of the problem is the S810 which really sucks (Z3c was way smoother), and the other part is the camera. It is "ok" but compared to the S6/S7/G4/G5/5X/6P/6S/SE or any other flagship camera, it sucks, really.
And no, the SE is not "a redesigned iPhone 5". It has the specs of the iPhone 6s with a 4 inch screen, which is exactly what I wanted, and everything about it is way better than the Z5 Compact (except maybe the speaker).
RiTCHiE007 said:
Funny why you swapped to iphone but not a other android device that might service your needs. But shame to see that many only know 2 brands of phones.
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I don't "only know 2 brands of phones". As I said, in the last 6 years I've had phones from HTC, Samsung, OnePlus, Sony, Motorola and even some other brands that I forgot. I just feel like the only options right now for a really complete package are Samsung and Apple (maybe HTC but I don't really trust them anymore), and the S7 is too big for me, so I choosed the iPhone SE. It just seemed like the best option for me and so far I really like it.
Yep, I feel the same like you... Interestingly, I also used to have a z3c with the very good concept android 6.0 beta before a thief robbed it out of my hand... Well, I hoped the z5c would even be better.... But no, unfortunately, it's worse, even though the main hardware is better. The firmware is quite buggy and I absolutely agree that the battery life could be way better....
I am underimpressed with a few things about my Z5 compact, but I'll tell you why I will keep it: lanyard mount.
Hello all, I'm currently on the s7 edge and I've had it with this locked bootloader. This phone feels like an iPhone to me. You can't do anything with it but use it. The edge of the screen is troublesome when using the phone without a case.
Basically I want to know if the v10 is still worth getting? Or should I wait for something else? I'm on T-mobile.
I love huge screens(which is another issue I have with this phone)
Don't care for camera
Don't care about gaming speed. That's what my DS and other handhelds are for.
Don't care about battery life if it's replaceable.
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Hello all, I'm currently on the s7 edge and I've had it with this locked bootloader. This phone feels like an iPhone to me. You can't do anything with it but use it. The edge of the screen is troublesome when using the phone without a case.
Basically I want to know if the v10 is still worth getting? Or should I wait for something else? I'm on T-mobile.
I love huge screens(which is another issue I have with this phone)
Don't care for camera
Don't care about gaming speed. That's what my DS and other handhelds are for.
Don't care about battery life if it's replaceable.
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It's a great phone and is now easily rootable on both Lollipop or Marshmallow (depending on which it ships with). Custom TWRP recovery exists and that's helpful when flashing updates. There's a very solid stock ROM with various debloat, dedeox, etc variations to try from. Also a couple non stock ROMs like CM13 and Resurrection Remix that are WIP that are pretty close (working camera being the big gating item).
On the con side it's not the latest and greatest and the G5 of HTC 10 has better performance (at least in tests like Antutu). Also i wish there were more devs actively working on this phone....seems like its really only a couple folks and if they get bored and move on...
Anyway, that's my two cents. Hope it helps. Come join the fun.
A great device, had mine for less than two months now and for the current price it is hard to beat
This beat out the nexus 6p for me due to the removable battery and expandable storage
The second screen is a bit gimicky still, I can't find a reason to use it much other than for always on notifications
The two front facing cameras... well the could have stuck with just the wide angle and I would be happy. But rear shooter is still hard to beat by anything
Build quality is solid, screen is great, battery ain't so good but the fastest charger to date can't beat a battery swap
Other forums may have more development but this one is moving along nicely and with the smaller size feels closer (my big name phones always had way too many people to keep track)
I plan on holding on to it for two years, can't see a good reason not to.
Hope to see you around the forum!
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Yeah, what these guys said. I just got my V10 this month so only a couple weeks with it but I'm quite happy. Has all the features I require: swappable battery, SD card support, good camera with OIS, and fingerprint support. I love big screens and this certainly has it plus the second screen I find moderately useful though not a requirement. It's also built like a tank which is nice (but heavy). I don't see anything in the market that competes with the V10 if you have the same requirements as I do. I think the only thing that might get me jealous in 2016 is a V11. This one will likely last me several years, I think.
Hey OPX owners!
I have a weird question for you guys.
Currently I'm owning a OnePlus 7 Pro. But as a second phone I would like to buy a OPX (I don't know why I would need another one but I really love the aesthetics of the OPX).
Do you guys still recommend this phone in 2020? What are some advantages/disadvantages?
I don't want to replace my 7 Pro but I would like to use the OPX from time to time (especially with custom roms because I love rooting and things like that). I know that the custom ROM section of the OPX is nearly dead, but I saw that AEX and Lineage are still supported.
I would be glad to hear your stories and what you think about that idea. The OPX I could buy costs 70 Euros (78 USD), is it too much? The phone itself is in a good condition with no scratches.
Or do you guys think I should look for a OnePlus One instead?
Honestly if you're looking to buy a device to test custom ROMs and other software, go for the One. It has a way larger dev community, and is still supported officially by LineageOS. If you want a more compact and aesthetically pleasing device and can't think of anything else to burn that 70€ on, then the X is still a decent device to use as a backup phone. It has a great screen, awesome build quality and looks that hold up to this day despite the large bezels. Don't expect blazing fast performance, great battery life and an impeccable camera as you'll be disappointed. If you have realistic expectations from a device that's nearly 5 years old and all but abandoned and forgotten by the manufacturer and most of the community save for a dedicated cult following, then go for it. I've been using the X as my main phone since it came out, and the only thing that's pushing me towards upgrading is the tiny storage (16gb is really not enough in 2020, especially if you use a lot of apps and/or play games). I don't really use that many apps and I still barely get by, and the card reader is so slow that I'd never recommend installing apps on an sd card. Here's hoping that the rumored OnePlus 8 lite will live up to its spiritual predecessor in price to performance.
I have to agree. The OPX is the right size for me and has the same processor as the OP1, but there's not a lot of development going on with what is essentially a concept phone
I've been using my OPX since 2015; my brother gifted one to me pretty much right after it came out.
I can't speak to the relative size of dev communities, but I've had some fun trying different ROMs on it. Currently running "/e/" ("e.foundation") - which has been interesting, having all of the Google stuff excised (though I did eventually add some Google apps/services myself because I'm so used to them). Before I switched over, I was having a lot of problems with the stock OS acting up after years of auto updates. Now it runs beautifully. The camera leaves something to be desired (though actually the photo quality was better when using the stock camera software, so with the right app and settings it might be better), but that's not a big deal for me. I've also never had a problem installing/running apps on the SD card.
I love the form factor of the OPX. When I first got it, it seemed HUGE - but these days it's small and sleek compared to a lot of the smartphones I see. I actually get quite a few compliments on it. Folks are surprised to learn that it's an old model. Actually a big part of what spurred me to do the work of installing a custom ROM was that I didn't want to have to buy a new phone; I didn't like the look/size of any of the other options. With the custom ROM, I'll probably still be using this phone for another 4-5 years!
I have been using opx since the premiere with wooden case. A year ago I sent him to service to change my battery. I have always custom rom on my opx (on 8.1 by yummemuchi right now, but I think sultan rom is the best for opx) waiting for stable android 9.
The phone works well, looks nice and I don't feel like changing it.
The only thing I would like to change in it is:
- add nfc
- better battery
- processor
- faster memory
I just bought an OPX yesterday for $100 CAD and flashed POSP on it and it's working pretty great, super stable for a daily driver.
Camera is better than some older phones but really not great, especially on ROMs without the OOS cam it's pretty bad.
I wish the performance was better, I think if you overclock it a little it would feel more smooth. But the battery life would suffer and it's not that great already.
It's a great phone to tinker with and my girlfriend is currently using it as a daily driver.
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I just bought an OPX yesterday for $100 CAD and flashed POSP on it and it's working pretty great, super stable for a daily driver.
Camera is better than some older phones but really not great, especially on ROMs without the OOS cam it's pretty bad.
I wish the performance was better, I think if you overclock it a little it would feel more smooth. But the battery life would suffer and it's not that great already.
It's a great phone to tinker with and my girlfriend is currently using it as a daily driver.
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Yeah, it's a great phone but performance wise it could be better.
Have you tried AEX, too? It's still under development and POSP is abandoned.
I'm not sure if any of those roms is better, because I really like POSP but I'm using AEX because of the newer updates.
Maybe I should give POSP a second chance.
Yeah, it's a great phone but performance wise it could be better.
Have you tried AEX, too? It's still under development and POSP is abandoned.
I'm not sure if any of those roms is better, because I really like POSP but I'm using AEX because of the newer updates.
Maybe I should give POSP a second chance.
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I haven't tried AEX yet, would you say it gives better performance than POSP?
Only as a secondary phone i reckon. I'm only keeping this phone because i just love it's beauty,however it is such a delicate darling. The glass sandwich device with AMOLED is a treat for something which sells for mere 50 dollars in used market where i live. So no point selling the beauty for so cheap. Also the spares are hard to find. My power button was broken from inside (not the actual smd internal power button but the one which we physically press), had to disassemble the whole device and i had to do DIY repair on it by literally rebuilding it with a piece of plastic from where it was broken from the other side.
The custom Rom scene is almost dead now, i'm currently on AEX which had the last update done months back.
Having said that, i kept it in pretty much new like condition by using it sparingly.
One good thing was last i checked with the service center for spares, they were providing free battery replacement where i live.
Anyway,how is your Oneplus x holding up?
it has the same form factor as iphone SE 2020. if you are using LOS 17.1 then it is worth it.
Seems to be a pretty decent phone, batteries might become an issue, as they always are,
And halting of constant pdates via the community on XDA, might also limit this phones utility.
But for a 4 year old phone, that's still going strong, I think not bad at all.
I think so! I still use my OPX as my primary phone. I love the small form factor, dual SIMs and FM radio. I'm not aware of any modern devices that compare. I had the battery replaced about a year and a half ago.
Thank goodness for the custom ROM scene here, because OnePlus abandoned support almost immediately.
So I'm looking for a new phone, with a bit more power.
Would you recommend this phone, I saw a couple of posts about sw issues, how serious is it?
I'm trying to decide between this one and the oneplus 10t, which is on sale right now.
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So I'm looking for a new phone, with a bit more power.
Would you recommend this phone, I saw a couple of posts about sw issues, how serious is it?
I'm trying to decide between this one and the oneplus 10t, which is on sale right now.
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Well, I haven't had software problems.
I come from a OnePlus9 pro and there I had more software problems. It would once crash and the screen would go black and couldn't be unlocked. I felt worse with the OP than I did with the Zenfone9.
Asus has updated my phone once every month. That in OnePlus did not happen to me.
In short, it depends on the personal experience of each one.
And if you can, go for the 16gb, but you will only have it black... I love red model! Snif...
I write to you from a black Zenfone9 16gb with the official beta of Android 13.
I would go for thisone over the 10T. OnePlus Software is just not good anymore. This fone is what OnePlus was onces.
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I would go for thisone over the 10T. OnePlus Software is just not good anymore. This fone is what OnePlus was onces.
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Pretty much, the OP9 was the last OnePlus before they got fully merged into oppo. Check the OnePlus 10P/T forums here to see all the problems.
I came to this phone from OP 7T Pro, there are few things I don't like (the camera is not as great as I hoped and the bezels around the display are pretty huge, especially after coming from 7T Pro), but overall it is a great phone. The FP reader is the best I ever tried, it unlocks on instant, it cannot be any quicker, I love the small footprint, this is the main reason I went for this phone. I hate those huge 6.7"+ devices, I have short thumb. And all the small phones are usually low or mid tier, this one is a proper high tier phone, very smooth and fast.
The battery is also awesome, almost 2x better than my OP 7T Pro, which wasn't too bad either. And I'm using 120Hz and AoD, I'm getting 6+ SOT easily. With 7T Pro I was getting 3-4 hours SOT
SW wise it is great, as someone wrote before me, it is what OnePlus used to be. Clean Android experience with few extras. I didn't have any major bugs, just small details, but ASUS is nicely active on their support forum, we are reporting bugs and they are working on them.
I'm currently on the A13 beta and I haven't noticed any major issues so far, smooth experience, good for daily driver.
AND FINALLY the home gesture bug is GONE in A13! Now my Niagara Launcher experience is smooth.
But you cannot judge the phone based on the support forums, all you can find there are issues, right? Nobody is posting on forum about good experiences, people usually post only if they encounter any issue. And there are issues with every phone
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But you cannot judge the phone based on the support forums, all you can find there are issues, right? Nobody is posting on forum about good experiences, people usually post only if they encounter any issue. And there are issues with every phone
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Thanks at all for the replies guess I'm going with this one!
Is this phone a good upgrade to the Pixel 5 ?
I've been satisfied with the pixel 5 in general - it feels great to hold, has good bezels, good camera and it's light.
Performance has been better than decent - for the apps and things I use it at least.
But still would like to have a snappier performance with the better chipset that the Zenfone 9 offers.
The only drawbacks I'm seeing with the new Asus Z 9 are the slightly thick bezels, it's weight, camera perf., and ROM development
As far as the camera goes - are the GCams giving any considerable improvements in the Z 9 ? The factory camera app is giving decent results but I think I like my Pixel 5 pics better from the comparisons that I'm seeing.
Also - what do you think ROM development would look like for this phone ? The love these phones get in the NA market is non-existent pretty much. And maybe Lineage will drop a ROM - but would like to see some ROMs dev. in the future.
I'm loving it so far. While I'm not enthused about the two years of updates instead of more, I am learning about ROM development and will post here when I can.
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Is this phone a good upgrade to the Pixel 5 ?
I've been satisfied with the pixel 5 in general - it feels great to hold, has good bezels, good camera and it's light.
Performance has been better than decent - for the apps and things I use it at least.
But still would like to have a snappier performance with the better chipset that the Zenfone 9 offers.
The only drawbacks I'm seeing with the new Asus Z 9 are the slightly thick bezels, it's weight, camera perf., and ROM development
As far as the camera goes - are the GCams giving any considerable improvements in the Z 9 ? The factory camera app is giving decent results but I think I like my Pixel 5 pics better from the comparisons that I'm seeing.
Also - what do you think ROM development would look like for this phone ? The love these phones get in the NA market is non-existent pretty much. And maybe Lineage will drop a ROM - but would like to see some ROMs dev. in the future.
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I have a Pixel 5, too, though currently as a backup. Performance is okay on that one, but I can't believe how much better 120 Hz on the ZP9 feels than the 90 Hz on P5. Battery life is also much better, too: P5 is 10-11%/hr screen on rate, ~1% screen off rate; ZP9 is ~8% screen on rate, ~0.8% screen off rate. (Accubattery)
If price isn't an obstacle, I'd recommend it.
I wouldn't change this phone for anything. I upgraded from Zenfone 8, as the one thing that was missing was a physical fingerprint reader (rather than the under-screen one).
The software experience also feels much smoother (stock) than what it was on Zenfone 8 (which I later rooted and flashed wtih LineageOS). I am content keeping this one stock.
i currently have the samsung galaxy s20 5g and debating on i bought the zenfone 9 and try to decide whether to stick with it the Z9 or S20
I have to say this is a great compact phone. Almost as good as the old sony xperia xz1 compact.
The battery life on this phone is awesome, Im running with 4.5 hours screen time so far and 2 days stand by and I still have about 41% battery life.
performance is great, the camera is not bad, however those huge lenses do stick out like a sore thumb.
but overall if you can get this phone on special price, its well worth it.
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I have to say this is a great compact phone. Almost as good as the old sony xperia xz1 compact.
The battery life on this phone is awesome, Im running with 4.5 hours screen time so far and 2 days stand by and I still have about 41% battery life.
performance is great, the camera is not bad, however those huge lenses do stick out like a sore thumb.
but overall if you can get this phone on special price, its well worth it.
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https://t.me/ViPER4AndroidFXchannel Here is the official link just open it in Telegram
redavenger said:
I have to say this is a great compact phone. Almost as good as the old sony xperia xz1 compact.
The battery life on this phone is awesome, Im running with 4.5 hours screen time so far and 2 days stand by and I still have about 41% battery life.
performance is great, the camera is not bad, however those huge lenses do stick out like a sore thumb.
but overall if you can get this phone on special price, its well worth it.
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